An announcement today indicated that the NHL plans to go forward with a salary-cap ceiling of $70.2 million and a salary-cap floor of $54.2 million for the 2012-13 season. For now. This can be altered — meaning, in all likelihood, lowered — if the owners and players decide so, during their upcoming collective-bargaining talks, but no matter what, the Kings are in a good position.
As noted earlier, in this post, the Kings, right now, could easily put together a 23-man roster for just under $60 million. (Keep in mind that Jonathan Quick’s impending new contract won’t kick in until 2013-14.) The bigger issue for the Kings, and every team, is the years beyond. In 2013-14, the Kings now have almost $43 million committed to only 11 players, and again, that doesn’t include Quick. If the owners and players decide to bring down the cap, though, there’s also a chance that they might cut player salaries across the board, which would level the playing field. The Kings, in 2013-14 and in the two following years, already have four players making in excess of $5 million (Doughty, Kopitar, Richards and Carter) and Quick will soon be a fifth. That makes it harder to maintain financial flexibility, and that will be Dean Lombardi’s challenge going forward, independent of what the new CBA brings.
Hmm, you make it sound like the Kings and Quick have a deal in place, just waiting till July 1st to announce it.
This makes me happy.
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Cruiznblue Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@Deader2818,
lol well I think Rich is using more common sense than anything…but hey I’ll take that assumption too.
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Rich, i found a typo in the title…should read…
“How will cap impact – the STANLEY CUP CHAMPION – Kings”
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@Sebastian, LOL. That is great.
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OneTimer Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@Sebastian,
Ahhh… I see what you did there.
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OneTimer Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@Sebastian,
Ahh… I see what you did there.
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OneTimer Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
(both times!)
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How about Jagr for 1 season at 3mil when ZP doesn’t sign?
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@KingHal, NO.
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TJM Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@KingHal, We don’t even need Zach Parise, he would just be a huge bonus. Not seeing a reason Jagr would be needed with our team built the way it is.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
@KingHal, Ummm…..NO.
Jagr does not fit well at all with the type of team we have. Would much rather have Penner than him.
Even Parise would just be “nice to have”, hardly a necessity. We already have more forwards than spots for.
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At the same time, the Kings have mostly RFAs to sign in the next 2 years and some possible young prospect entries into the lineup. DB is the only other major contract to negotiate next year. It’s really not as bad as Rich is making it sound. Respectfully, is rather be in the Kings position than about 25 to 31 other teams in the NHL.
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MacSwede Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@face wash, Rich did nor say it was bad. I think he refers to Kings possibillities to go after a skilled UFA. We have room for it now, but it might get us in to trouble next year.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
@face wash,
The other thing too is assuming that all five of those contracts will be with the Kings moving forward. In other words, there always seems to be a big change that no one sees coming.
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BringbackButchGoring Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@face wash, It certainly helps that DB is the most underpaid man in the NHL. It’s a whole lot easier having 5 (hopefully 6 soon) 5 million plus contracts with the cap at 70 or near 70 than 50 which is was a few years ago. Plus, with the Kings being one of the youngest teams in the league (many entry level contracts) I got to think we are fine for the next few years. DL is a frigging genius.
By the way, I sure hope DL makes it up to Brown for not complaining about being underpaid by offering an extremely fair contract next go around. Now lets go get Parise or Doan!!!!
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This is off-topic, but I need to know. Was there ever a DVD, or something, created with Bob and Jim calling the final game of the Finals? I remember it being mentioned before the final game but haven’t heard anything since.
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Klownchez Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@Kaiser Soze, ditto
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CCM Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@Klownchez, Same. need to know.
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mantooth Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
@Kaiser Soze, Yesterday on the ch5 news Jim Fox said they were still trying to work out the legal part of it.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@Kaiser Soze,
“or something, created with Bob and Jim calling the final game”
As stated above the DVD is pending. But there is this if you haven’t seen it: http://kingsnewsdaily.com/its-miller-time/
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Kaiser Soze Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Awesome. Thanks for the link! “The Kings are the 2012 Stanley Cup Champions!” – I wonder if there’s a way to make that my ring tone
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LOL 104mil for a headcase? Pff what a rip off
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@pr0cess, Cosby IS their franchise, he brought them back from the dead. when hes healthy, he deserves every penny.
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pr0cess Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@Sebastian, Malkin is a better player
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@pr0cess, ….And….?? What is your point? If the media promotes Crosby left and right and he gets hurt how does WHAT THE MEDIA DID make him a “head case”? I’d love to have a “head case” like him on the Kings. Yes, even given Richards and Kopitar.
Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
@pr0cess, ….and a much less whiner….there’s a reason they call him kid…..
Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
@Sebastian, it should be a two-tier contract… your medical gets covered when you’re not healthy, and you get a Million for each of those 10 games you can play?
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
@Stuart, Hockey never will be bigger than the other 3 in the states but if it WERE TI ACTUALLY BE MARKETED it can be a much better 4th. There are better players than Crosby that are not the darlings of the media. No matter, if attention directed at Crosby helps to sell the sport (and it does) than I’m all for it. My point was a “head case” I’d usually a label placed on someone whose off ice behavior affects his play. Now if anyone has some actual FACTS that prove this really IS the case with Crosby than please do share.
HockeyNerd Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@Stuart, “WERE TO”
“is usually”
TJM Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@pr0cess, A headcase? That guy is a phenomenal hockey player. The ONLY reason Malkin can even be compared is because Malkin has stayed healthy more recently. I don’t love Crosby, but saying he’s a head case is stupid, unless you’re somehow referring to concussion victims as “head cases”. This is just Crosby hate with no actual basis.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@TJM, 100% agree. You better hope that “head case” is healthy and productive this year, in case you’ve been on a deserted island the last 5 years Hockey is badly lagging in popularity in the States and NEEDS a few more “head cases” like him to promote the sport.
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@HockeyNerd, last 5 years?? it hasn’t been one of the big 3 EVER! The game isn’t going to survive in some markets and others are selling out their arenas on a nightly basis… how much “popularity” is needed???
Thankfully, those are all the right players making 5+ million per season. Brown will likely get a raise as well. Even still the core are signed and the highest paid. That’s the right way to go. To sustain the Kings are going to need the young-ins like Muzzin and maybe even Hickey to step-up and produce.
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the Kings are in VERY good shape ‘going forward’*
*never liked that term, now here I am using it….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@Realism 7,
Used to be a platitude, now it’s an attitude!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
@Duncanz,
Perfect!
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Hey Rich
Any word on Doughty??
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CCM Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
@Puckaroo13, Tomorrow perhaps?
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@Puckaroo13,
Still plays defense for the Kings. Recently became a Stanley Cup Champion
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Duncanz Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@DessertKing,
Scored with a blue-dressed devil.
Scored on the real Devils 3 months later.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@Duncanz,
LOL
Penner leaving opens a top 6 role for Gags if he does not retire. If he does, I would like to see DK (after being signed) or one of the offensive young guns get a legit shot. I can’t believe this young SCC King’s team gets to basically stay together. Still flying high from this year, but I am excited to see this team go for it again next year. GKG!
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@Sean, where did I miss that stated that DP was gone?
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
@Sean, DK is 3rd /4th line material, and that is no an insult. know/play your role.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@Shuchuk, Exactly…he’s a 3rd line LW, that’s his ceiling.
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Shouldn’t there be a Doughty update by now?
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vicarious Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@Lars H, Someone with law enforcement experience pointed out that the DA’s office can leave their file open until the legal time limit to file a case runs. That way they can see whether new evidence turns up. My $.02, since they have a complaint, even if they don’t have enough evidence to pursue a case now, they probably don’t want to rush on making a decision not to charge for that reason given.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@Lars H, That’s up to the DA and they will (rightfully) take their sweet time and look at all the evidence to be sure they are making the correct decision.
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Mars Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
@Lars H, I am not ever sure if he is in north America right now. LOL
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Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
@Mars, …..he’s hiding out with Randy Quaid….
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I say trade all of our $5mm+ players for some cheaper units
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Real 7 Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@crashin’da franchise, and I’ll bet you play penny stocks and 100 to 1 shots at Santa Anita….
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Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
@crashin’da net, ….missin the “rebuild” phase allready?…
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After Quick signs we will have 12 guys signed for about 50. The core and best players are included so this does not sound like a problem to me. The only guys i see might need a raise in the up coming years are King and Voynov, Maybe Clifford. If guys like Martinez, Lewis, Drewinski, Richardson, want more money without improvement in play they get shown the door and a cheaper youger player gets brought up. Scuderi and Gange will be let go after their contracts are up. I think the Kings are in great position cap wise, but I didnt major in math so what the hell do I know?
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@Pesus, I think TL gets 3rd/4th liner money and AM gets 3rd pairing money for a couple of years each when their contracts are up. Nothing to break the bank, but they’ll get paid. If they get greedy then they’ll be gone, but TL is a solid role-player (Draper/Maltby) and AM is a good defensive player who really found his edge in the playoffs… BR might be on his way out or traded soon, IMO…
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Michael J. Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@Pesus,
Martinez and Lewis will be very much due their raises when their day comes; Whiskey and Richardson not so much.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@Michael J., Martinez and Lewis will get roughly a 10-15% raise. That’s really it. Whiskey and Richie are already gone (basically).
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I love the fact that we could all blow off Z Parise as just a “bonus” for our team. of course I wouldn’t complain if we could afford it taking into consideration the next 2-3 years following the new CBA. Not too hurt by it if he doesn’t arrive. Love the way our team is built for the next 2-3 years.
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I’m still very happy this team will be together next year, with Penner or not! If Penner stays,his not worth more then 2.5 mil a year! For our 2nd cup win…
But 2013-14 season, we will lose some players (4) to free agency for sure… then by that time our prospects will need to kick in, so we can take one year off to winning the cup, then win another 2 cups as one of the best dynasty in history…
4 cups in 5 years!!
I know it’s a dream, I’ll take 2 out 5 or 3 out 5 as long as we get another is fine with me!
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Mars Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
@Sammuch, If we make another deep playoff run, or win another cup. I think we wont lose anyone to FA. I think they would try like hell to stay.
I think we are going to get more and more guys wanting to stay and more and more wanting to come aboard.
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Quick agrees for 10 year extension!!!
http://ht.ly/bTEkN
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Sammuch Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@DanielC,
Wow! Great news!!!
Will we just might see free agent signing or a trade for JB before the raising of the banner!!
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@DanielC, HOLY COW. that’s awesome.
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Mars Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
@DanielC, Those are awesome records!
Dare I say it, future HOF’er!
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Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
@DanielC, ….abit too long in my opinion….hope he doesn’t start to feel too comfortable….think it should have been 5-7yrs….hope I’m being pessimistic…
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Wow….gotta love your Stanley Cup Champions GM Lombardi..gits it done. Let’s get Parise and Doan and katy bar the door…
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Sammuch Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
@tellmeY,
LIKE!
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@tellmeY, So, do you expect to keep anyone else if you do this? Both will need longer deals (or want), then you will most likely lose a core player because of this.
Are you willing to give up your captain for Parise or Doan? No thanks.
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Mars Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
@mrbrett7, Agreed! I am not willing pickup Praise if we loose Brown. I will be unhappy if we lose Brown.
And after the WCF I am not a Doan fan.
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Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
@tellmeY, ….wtf for?…
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Question is do these guys feel like they can do it again and again? If they do feel that way then they as a team should get together without their agents and work out deals to keep the team together. A legacy team if possible means more than just your name on the CUP it means your names being called out by kids forever and ever wanting to be the Los Angeles Kings that went from 0/44 seasons team to 1/45 or ??##/50 CUP’S with the legacy brand to your name and history.
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I was hoping for a tad longer, say 13-15, lock him in for his career.
I want him (DB, AK, DD also) to retire Kings.
This is excellent news though, Cup runnings for years 10 years!
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Its a 10 year deal that apparently doesn’t start until after next year! This is a great deal for the Kings as their best player isn’t their highest paid (but is locked up for the next 11 years). Hopefully some of the savings will be set aside to add depth to the D. I’m not yet sold on Voynov, and any injury to our top 4 D creates a decent hole.
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Putting on DL’s (salary) cap, I might make a bigger push for Hudler instead of Parise. Reasons: a) if Parise does sign, it will probably be in the East. b) by Kings signing Hudler, that will weaken Detroit – Western inference team; c) both players are similar in size, but Hudler is faster and a LOT CHEAPER! I’d offer Jiri 4 years at $15 mil. Parise would command that for 2 years!
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Offense wins in the regular season, defense in the playoffs. I know we will be better offensively this year but not by much. We need to improve our 2nd line…playoff Penner is great but which Penner will show up next year? Is Gagne, Parse, Lotki the answer? I believe Scuds and Penns are the two spots we can improve. Hopefully Bernier will play more this year. On a side note, during that major pp…Brown took it strong to the net twice and King also.
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