Terry Murray’s postgame thoughts…
(on Bernier…)
MURRAY: “He had a big game here today. This is a building that we haven’t had any success in. You see his composure on that first power play that they had. He was under control, he absorbed some pucks. The season that he has played in the minors has really done good things for him. He’s showing signs of becoming a real good goaltender at this level.”
(on O’Donnell’s goal…)
MURRAY: “The end result, the whole thing, is because of Fro with the shot mentality, getting pucks to the net. It’s a sharp angle. You’re just hoping something can happen, that there is a loose puck and, hey, OD practices that top corner a lot. It was a huge goal, obviously, to kind of solidify the win for us in this very difficult building to play in.”
(on whether Bernier will stay with the team…)
MURRAY: “Yeah, he’s going to be on the plane.”
(on ending the winless streak…)
MURRAY: “We were playing well 5-on-5, but our special teams had not been able to get the job done in the last three games for us. Here it is tonight, there’s only maybe three power plays in the game, and that maybe is a sign of what we need to do for the next few games. Show composure, lots of discipline, a lot of poise out there and making sure we’re not putting any pressure on the referee to make some calls. We’ll keep it with that look.”
(on Parse’s goal…)
MURRAY: “There’s not a lot of guys going to score that goal. That’s a great play by Randy Jones, first of all, on the faceoff. He’s showed great awareness of holding on, and composure, and buying time, and then for that play to come as quickly as it did, with the speed that he’s coming to the net with, and to place it where he did, not a lot of players can find that small spot.”
(on getting a big win…)
MURRAY: “We talked about this in the pregame. We’re battling from behind in the last three, four games. We’re down by a goal, two goals, and we play, and we play like we’ve been playing all year long. That’s the kind of attitude that we need to come at the start of the game. Don’t be afraid of winning. Just go after it and have some fun. This is the best time of the year for a hockey player, and I think we showed that in the beginning today.”
Rich, did you ask him who is starting in goal next game or if he knew Jacob Muzzin was signed to a tryout at Manchester?
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Keep resting Quick, get Bernier to play vs. the Canucks
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The first question is real, the second is an attempt at humor.
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
@Joey Drillings, LOL!!!
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(on whether Bernier will stay with the team…)
MURRAY: “Yeah, he’s going to be on the plane.”
ummmm I think TM needs to make one thing clear, Bernier needs to start at home against Vancouver. If he is going to bench Frolov for lagging, and he is going to keep juggling lines around to generate better production, then he needs to play Bernier. It not only gives the team a jolt, but it also make Bernier and Quick more hungry to be the #1. Make no mistake that Quick has been solid for us this year and has been rewarded for that but this club needs to be about winning and if Bernier is giving us the best chance to win (even in only 2 games played) then he needs to ride the hot hand.
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Don’t get too excited. Emergency callups have a limited number of games. Maybe Rich knows what that number is. But I suspect – with Ersberg’s amazing recovery – that Bernier won’t be around for long.
There may be a good competition next season, but this is Quick’s team in 2010.
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LosAngelesKing Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
@Simmer, I’m excited at winning and in order to do that we need the best talent and the hardest workers out there getting the job done. These guys are paid a ton of money to produce and the front office is paid to make the best decisions to provide a quality product on the ice that compete’s and wins….bottom line
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I don’t think you entrust the first playoff run in eight years to a rookie with two games. And if you experiment with that now, you risk shattering Quick’s confidence and rusting him out (and we saw how well he bounced back form the Olympic break).
Anyway, it doesn’t matter, because it’ not gonna happen. My points wasn’t what they SHOULD do – it’s what they ARE doing. As I understand it, the “emergency callup” strategy doesn’t give them a lot of wiggle room.
garry Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
@LosAngelesKing, Bernier is here to stay! Why you ask?? Because it’s time and would you prefer to have Quick/Ersberg or Quick/Bernier?It’s a no brainer.
luc20rules Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
@Simmer,
Love the avatar.
Charlie Simmer/Wayne Simmonds
Well Done!
We do have 3 call ups left, we can make it permanent.
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
True – I think that’s the one workaround that we have, to the emergency callup.
But I think the whole purpose of this was another one-game experience for Bernier. I don’t think they’ve lost any confidence in Quick.
I guess we’ll see, right?
Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
@Simmer, Told ya Charlie!!About keeping bernier,if they want!!lol
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Quisp Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
@Simmer re emergency call-ups
No. Emergency call-ups do NOT have a limited number of games. A player on emergency recall stays until the emergency is over (although obviously he could be sent back down and replaced by another goalie, e.g. Zatkoff, or a UFA signing).
In any case, should Ersberg suddenly be healthy, the Kings are free to spend one of their three remaining call-ups to “recall” Bernier under the usual, non-emergency conditions.
As far as trusting the playoffs to a kid with two wins, Lombardi/Murray will play the hot hand, period.
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tantrum4 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
@Simmer,
You don’t entrust playoffs with a rookie goalie? Ever hear the stroy of Ken Dryden? If not, you should look it up. Just sayin’…
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BernierNextRoy Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 2:56 am
@tantrum4,
You can look up Varlamov, Cam Ward,Chris Osgood, Patrick Roy, Brodeur (was in the same exact situation as Bernier, with an emergency recall and played in the playoffs…hmmm) and the list goes on.
luc20rules Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
@LosAngelesKing,
Absolutely, I agree with everything you stated.
We play Bernier until he cools off. Before the game I posted that the game was most likely to be low scoring. The Kings tighten up and play better D for EE & Bernier. I think they feel a bit too comfortable with Quick in net. A couple of wins may make them realize playing solid D is important dispite who is in net.
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TM “OD practices that top corner a lot. It was a huge goal, obviously” LOL!
I like OD, but I don’t think he has that type of accuracy with his shot. TM made it sound like we may see OD in the top 3 of the Shootouts.
Great Job, Keep it up, Go Kings Go
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Alen Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
@luc20rules, With TM you never know and you just might one day. Crawford did have Steve Ott in the shootout against the Yotes.
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David Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
@Alen,
It was Crawford so that doesnt count.
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Darrell Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
@luc20rules, I think the puck was rolling when he shot it; I’d be surprised if even he knew exactly where it was going.. BUT WE’LL TAKE IT!!
We won today because we stayed out of the box and got solid goaltending (plus it helped that Nashville lately has an even worse PP than us). If I’m doing the math correctly, I believe both Minnesota and Dallas can no longer catch us – we only have to worry about Calgary, St. Louis, and Anaheim. If the Avs can beat the Ducks tomorrow, we’d be safe from Anaheim as well.
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Forum67 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
@Darrell,
No matter WHAT happens tomorrow night you can stick a fork in the Stars and Ducks. They are not only done, they’re well done.
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Darrell Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 1:16 am
@Forum67, Eh, I’m not counting the Ducks out until they’re served up on a plate charred and bloody. Of course I’d prefer if the Kings could just win 3 more and clinch the berth ourselves.
BringBackTheShieldJersey Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
@luc20rules, Anybody but Brown.
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kings4queens Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 12:51 am
@luc20rules,
LOL!
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Murray for jack Adams! We should have listened! Everything is fine! Everything is fine!
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Alen Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
@Chris P. Bacon, No, No, and No. One great goalie performance and definitely a gritty win but the offense is not even close to being “fine”. Gotta keep working and hopefully Parse ignites a few other lines since we all know he will be jumping around.
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luc20rules Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
@Alen,
We have to keep the 4th line together Richardson centering Parse and Simmonds. Richardson & Parse are to small to play over 15 minutes a game. They play very well for limited minutes, but too many and the production disappears.
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David Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
@Alen, They had plently of offense tonight. Rinne did an amazing job in net for Nashville.
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Alen Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
@David, They only count as goals when they go in. Dustin Brown had a breakaway and didn’t even get a shot? That shiner has to be ruining his vision or something.
Cheeks Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
@Alen, That is the smartest thing I have heard all day! The offence is not there anymore. Not saying it cant be but when your best players are not your best players…
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My favorite part of the game was how confident I felt that we would win this because I didn’t see Bernier swimming on the ice ONCE all night.
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
You guys are a tough crowd!
The winningest goalie in Kings history, and you’re ready to throw him overboard?
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MR King Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
@Simmer,
Winningest is one thing, but look at the SAA of Quick and you got conflicting stats.
And about entrusting the playoffs to a rookie… Cam Ward is all I have to say to that.
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Ward started something like 30 games in ’06, before his playoff run. Bernier can’t even get to 10. I guarantee you, it’s not gonna happen. He may be the goalie of the future, but I don’t think we’ll see much more of him in 2010.
Alen Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
@Simmer, He has WINS which are a lot easier to come by with the shootout and all that. He is 16th in the league in wins and 28th in save percentage. WINS are all people are impressed by. Seeing him scramble around like Tim Thomas or even our good old friend Roman scares the crap out of me. Those goalies don’t LAST even when they win the Vezina one year they are still garbage the year after. Quick is overrated by Kings fans. Guy is not average but he isn’t as good as people have him pegged to be. He definitely isn’t as bad as he has been playing lately. He got some rest and if he starts in Vancouver that’s fine. Like you said you can’t just throw him overboard YET. If he has a bad game against the Canucks lets in a soft goal or is swimming on the ice like Michael Phelps he can’t handle the pressure and start the kid that gives the team the best chance to win. Isn’t that what coaches are supposed to do?
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Alen Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
@Alen, oops 16th in the league in GAA
Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
@Simmer, I LOVED Mario LESSARD too but i never trusted him???lmao
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
So true. So painfully true. Good point…
billanthony Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
@Simmer,
Quick has proven this season he is a quality NHL goaltender. However, he also seems overworked of late, and that shouldn’t be a surprise given what he has accomplished. That said, go with the hot hand in Bernier until he cools down. Regardless of what happens with Bernier, Quick is at a point where I wouldn’t feel the least bit uncomfortable plugging him back in any situation at a moments notice, including a playoff game seven.
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Cheeks Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
@billanthony, I agree that Quick looks over worked. He did earn what he has got. That is the starting position. I would love to have Quick starting and Bernier backing up. That would put pressure on Quick and if Bernier gets a chance he would be under pressure to do well. I think they both would do well under pressure.
Quisp Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
@Simmer
Nobody’s throwing over Rogie. Or Hrudey. Or Lessard, Storr, Fiset or Potvin. Or Quick even. But Quick is tied for 6th in wins. Right now, stats-wise, Quick is essentially Jamie Storr in terms of wins, GAA, SV%. I’m not saying he’s not great or should be “thrown over.” But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. “Winningest goalie”!
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Quisp Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
@Simmer,
Dryden only had six. 1970-71.
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McPuck Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 9:56 am
@Quisp,
6 Wins in Regular season.
Eliminate Boston in 7 ( Orr and Esposito)
Come back in game 7 againts Chicago in the finals.
Conn Symthe and Stanley Cup in playoffs.
That is the Ken Dryden Story.
Quisp Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 10:38 am
McPuck
Yes, that’s my point. I was saying to Simmer that six games was enough for Dryden. Dryden was called up from the AHL to get some game time in the bigs and in order to give the starter, Rogie Vachon, some rest. He played great, got the start in the playoffs, won the cup and won Conn Smythe the year BEFORE he won rookie of the year. The only player ever to have done that.
Quick just needs to get another win, and then I’ll feel better about him taking us to the playoffs. Bernier is the new sexy choice and I’m confident he’ll be our goalie of the future, by gotta let Quick keep his starting job. It’s his to lose.
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I play Bernier, I don’t care how many games Quick has won,he hasn’t looked sharp for a while,he needs a jolt.
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maraudking Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
@kingrussell,
Quick hasn’t looked sharp, but the only way he is going to retain his form from earlier in the season is to play. Sitting too long will probably have similar results after the Olympics where he barely saw a puck for two weeks.
Great game for Bernier!
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notayoungster Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 7:48 am
@maraudking, exactly!
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if Od misses that shot and doenst get back on D ????In reality..was that a smart move with a one goal lead and you very slow…..Thats why sports are great….little things makes big differences…
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Darrell Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
@neil, I think he alluded to that in his post-game interview. He had a hunch that’s where the puck would go, and it did go there. We got lucky; we needed that bounce. As I said before, with the way things have been going, we’ll take it!
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RoyalPain Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
@neil, Yeah, the first thing I thought was “What in hell is he doing down there??”
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GOT TO GO WITH QUICK HE HAS GOT US TO THIS POINT IN THE STANDINGS.GREAT GAME FOR JB KEEP HIM UP FOR BACKUP.
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Alen Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
@BRIAN SIMMONS, Not realistic at all. Bernier is the gonna play in the playoffs as a starting goaltender with the Kings or Monarchs. He shouldn’t be rotting on the bench that’s for sure.
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
@BRIAN SIMMONS, Sincerely Terry Murray
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MR King Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
@puck73,
He would announce it just like that too, in a loud booming all-caps voice.
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
@BRIAN SIMMONS, Y DO U HAVE TO KEEP SCREAMING!!!!!!!!!
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If Calgary wins, Bernier starts. Count on it.
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Nice win, boys!
Look for Jones to be resigned with the boner TM has with him. I guess I wouldn’t mind but a lot of you would be having seizures.
OD’s played over a 1000 games, he knows what to do with the puck.
@Alen
Bernier does look really good.
Parse scored 3 in a row for the Kings, just in different games. He had like 6 minutes tonight, nice job. Where’s Ivanans?
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I dont want to throw Quick under the bus but in reality he,s been a avg. goalie all year..some great games…some bad games but with a save pct of 90% all year. Avg. goalie…..not to say i wouldnt play him again this season but to say he is the reason we are where we are is streatching the truth a little..
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Fair enough. Mostly, I think he’s been streaky. He got off to a real slow start, then had some great stretches and some bad stretches. But heading into the Olympic break, he was rock-solid for about a month. Since then – you’re right – pretty mediocre. Maybe this will be a good wake-up call.
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David Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
@neil, This is similar to the PP% and how much that % really means. Sure, the Kings are ranked 6th, but its more about when they score on the PP.
Same goes for Quick but the other way around. Sure, his save % isn’t all that great but he has the ability to make timely saves to keep the team in it.
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
@neil, Reminds me of Czechmanec with the way he gives up bad goals!!!
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MrBrett7 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
@Little Willy, Not.Even.Close.
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Forum67 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
@neil,
Quick has been just an average to average minus goalie since the Olympics break (especially in the areas of handling the puck and rebound control). That being said what I’d like to see is Bernier play against the Knuckleheads and then win or lose, put Quick back in. I do NOT want to risk blowing Quick’s confidence, especially if Bernier were to have his OWN bad game(s).
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Schoeny Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 9:59 am
@neil,
Quick is acrobatic and is great at covering the lower 1/3 of the net, but gives up too many high shots (drops too early and snipers are picking top shelf).
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runningman says:
March 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM
I am mostly negative when it comes to the recent play of the Kings but tonight the Kings are going to shock the world and beat the Predators. I have not felt this good since they played Columbus.
I feel it tonight. The Kings will score early and often!
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runningman Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
@runningman,
I was off that they will score early but often might be two goals. Good Win for the Kings.
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Simmer says:
March 30, 2010 at 3:37 PM
I also feel it tonight. Bernier posts a shutout, and Scott “Secret Weapon” Parse scores his third in two nights, for the game-winner. And I’m feeling 14,433 paid attendance. Write it down!
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Okay – sorry – that’s not actually true.
And Scott’s nickname shouldn’t be “Secret Weapon”. Maybe “Only Weapon”.
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runningman Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
@Simmer,
Great call Simmer, you and I have the vibe.
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
No man, your quote was for real. Mine was totally fake.
Good call – for you
Bad joke – for me
I say we put Parse in nets next game….Totally mess with the crazy canucks mind!!! It s so stupid , it might just work!! GOD do i ever need a life…………
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Simmer Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
How ’bout this: goaltender AND starting center.
Scott Parse and Obi-Wan Kenobi
You’re out only hope.
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
@Simmer, Can Heidi wear that princess Leia outfit??? if so, count me in !! GROWWRRRR
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
@Little Willy, me too !
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
@puck73, LMAO!!!!!
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Jonathan Quick has won 39 games people! He’s still the man. Very glad that Bernier impressed and we appear to have two legit goaltenders!
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
@Hockey SureShot, I am not going to debate you on that,but for now you dont worry about peoples feelings, winning is and always will be a priority and you ride the hot hand until that player proves otherwise.
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
@puck73, How did that song go again… ummm ..o yeah!!WHEN YOUR HOT YOUR HOT…WHEN YOUR NOT ..WELL..YOUR NOT!!!
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
@Little Willy, Watch,TM will send Parse and Bernier down because they need ta learn how to be pro’s like JJ and Fro !
YoBro Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
@puck73, Couldn’t agree more. Now is not the time to massage egos.
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
@puck73, Man those two u just mentioned JJ AND FRO are frustrating to say the least!!one day they look like stars and then…. nuthin !!! and this nuthin goes on for far too long!!
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As a leader of men you have to make tough decisions. I’m sorry Quick out Bernier in simple as that. Use him till he fails Quick or someone else back in. This is war.
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
@bamaking, I wish Joe Torre the micromanager would follow that sound advice.
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maraudking Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
@puck73,
so true
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
@bamaking, GOOD CALL SOLDIER! ATTENTION!!!! LOL
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Mike Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 11:38 am
@bamaking,
Bernier has won 2 games. Quick has one 39. When Bernier wins 39 then I will agree he is better. Until then Quick will start and has clearly showed he can start at this level. Remember a couple years back when Bernier had a great game in his first NHL and then gave up about 15 goals in the next 3 games. How can you be so sure that will not happen again?
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Lets keep things in perspective here…
Quick has been the guy all year long. Bernier only has 6 NHL starts compared to Quick’s 115. JB has played well in his TWO starts this season. We can not possibly take two games in to consideration and be so quick (no pun) to switch things up.
Needless to say, it was a great game to watch! And with the Yotes loosing too! We are only two points out of 5th. Next two games are crucial as ever! It would be nice to pick up 4 points. GO KINGS GO!!!
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
@maraudking, Hello,Terry ? is that you ?
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maraudking Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
@puck73,
AHEM…. I cannot confirm nor deny these allegations
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
@puck73, LMAO !!!!!!
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
@Little Willy, I love this blog ! I would love ta see the look on Rich’s face when he scrolls this site. I wonder if he needs a double scoop of metamucil after digesting our poetry !
MrBrett7 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
@puck73, Nope, but he’s absolutely correct.
So, Bernier has shut down Dallas, when half their team was out hurt, and Nashville, one of the lowest scoring teams in the NHL, when they were missing their top scoring center.
Yeah, he looked good…but I fail to see where you change from the guy who put you in this position in the FIRST place, to go with the pretty girl down the street.
I bet you cheat on your wife/girlfriend too, huh?
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
@MrBrett7, hey,were just having fun man take it easy we are all in a good mood after a big Kings win !
Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
@MrBrett7, They must call u sunshine at home.uhh?? Uare the wind beneath our wings>>>>>>
Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
@puck73, Wife ..slash…girlfriend…cheater!!There is no room for someone of ur kind on this blog sir…… OMG!!!!! LMFAO>>>>>>>
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MrBrett7 Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 12:54 am
@Little Willy, Nope, no room for someone with actual hockey knowledge, nope.
Next thing I will read is that Westgarth should be playing top line minutes in the NHL all because he scored 11 goals in Manchester.
Bernier has played 6 CAREER GAMES, looked good in 3 of them, and looked absolutely God awfule in 3 others…
I’ll take the guy who has been there, fighting every game, who was chosen to represent his country, of the rookie right now.
Next year however is next year.
jofa6000 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
@maraudking, u gotta be kidding me. ill take bernier over quick any day any time. the reason quick is doing goos is because of the team in fornt of him not cz he’s good. how many soft goals have u seen bernier give up? and ask the same about quick…
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maraudking Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
@jofa6000,
I’m saying given the number of games, yes I would go with Quick this season. Yes I have seen Bernier give up some very soft goals in his first stint in the NHL. Bernier has NOT played even close to a full season in the NHL, and you would put him over Quick at this point? Can you really compare Bernier’s two games to Quick’s almost two full seasons as an NHL starter? He is a good goalie, I’ve watched most of the games this season. JQ has made some game changing saves that has kept us in games.
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Little Willy Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
@maraudking, HAS!!!!
jofa6000 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
@maraudking, the team in fornt of quick doesnt trust quick and therefor they dont have confidence. can u say the same thing about jb?
maraudking Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
@maraudking,
We don’t even know after 2 games dude! JB kept the puck out of the net and that is what’s important. It looked as if the entire team had a confidence problem before tonight’s game.
I would happen to think the team in front of Quick knows that he had played well for them all season long. From what I have read here on the Rich’s blog, it seems that the team and the coaching staff still has a great deal of confidence in Quick. All players go through bad spells.
I wish I knew where you got your insider info, you seem to really have a pulse of how the team is doing. Do you write for Eklund?
Thank you boys
that was a hugh win tonight, I’m glad I got my 1st round playoffs tickets today.
ok—4 more pts and a calgary lose
plus–nashville in reach
detroit —on a roll(going the finish 5th)
I think the boys would do great against van in the playoffs
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tm that being said y dont you just play bernier for the rest of the season.
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I would keep Bernier up and alternate them in the final games and, depending on performance, adjust my thinking then as toward determining who should start in the playoffs. You have to go with whoever’s playing best at the time.
I would do the same thing next year. There’s no rule that says that one goalie has to start most of your games (and I don’t buy into the theory that somebody’s feelings are going to get hurt, or that somebody got “promised” this or that). The only reason most teams have one preferred goalie is because great goalies are few and far between, and so one guy is usually clearly better than the other and so gets the most starts.
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
@rontheking, I think you are exactly correct with that assertion. Bernier won tonite,lets see how he does vs Vancouver,another team we have had difficulty with. It worked tonite vs preds,maybe the kid will stay hot and get the team another 2 points on thursday. At this point, I personally dont care if the team only finishes in 8th place at least their in and besides,the team has played very well on the road this year.
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why not keep Bernier and send EE down? If he gets picked on waivers, who cares?
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
@DY, I think that might be a little bit of a stretch but I still see the humor in it.
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JWR Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 9:25 am
@DY,
I seriously doubt DL would give away Ersberg for nothing. When the time comes he will be traded for a prospect or a pick.
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ok I have read some of the crap that has been posted
5pts and 1 lose–and I can’t say it f*** all of u
5 more pts and a flames lose and the boys are in the boys are in
the boys are in the playoffs
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Sometimes to win short term you have to be heartless. Long term is another matter and requires a softer touch. Unfortunately we need to win now sorry Quick.
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
@bamaking, I think you make a good point,that being said,as competetive as Jon is I dont think any of us fans would count him out.
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So one game, and he’s the next coming of Patrick Roy.
You guys are just too funny.
From depressed and suicidal to elated and delusional in 2.5 hours – no doubt, Kings fans are bi-polar!
Take your medication and let’s reconvene Thursday night. I can guarantee depressed and suicidal will have found its way back into your warped minds.
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dMan Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
@dMan,
I should add that that will be before the game!
Cause of course, the Kings will win with Quick in net.
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maraudking Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
@dMan,
Well said. Harsh. But well said
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puck73 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
@dMan, you gotta admit,this site is fun when the tesm wins !
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dMan Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
@puck73,
I guess we all have our definition of fun.
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Alternate Jersey Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
@dMan, Agreed. Bernier was amazing but Quick is still my boy.
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I thought the boys were going to make the playoffs
right–right
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i love the gap band —-burn rubber on me
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Now if only TM would scratch Halpern and dress Clune, we might be headed in the right direction. But if history proves it’s self, Dumb Murray will juggle lines and Fu(k this up somehow.. Also modien has made some dumb plays the last few games, time to move him to the 4th line and give real kings players more playing time..
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lakingsfan19 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
@lakingsfan19,
edit.. drunk….
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I have been watching the Kings since the 92-93 season. I really don’t care who is in net as long as we win. Now personally I don’t think we will go all the way and win the Cup this year, but the ultimate goal is to win the Cup and when that time comes who cares who the goalie is that gets the job done. We will have won the Cup and I can finally die in peace. LOL
My husband is a hockey goalie and he says, “it is a team sport and go with the one that can get you wins. He also says it sucks when you are not playing good and another goalie comes in and wins, but as a team player it really comes down to the team winning and gaining their confedence back no matter who is in net”.
I like both Quick and Bernier, but I give the edge to Bernier right now. I would play him against Vancouver and then play Quick and see how he does. As Scotty Bowman said, “when a team has your number, play the goalie they don’t have a lot of knowledge on”. I knew Bernier would get the win tonight and I think he has a good chance to win Thursday.
Go Kings!!!!!!!
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burn rubber on me
early in the morning
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Wow, Quick has a bad streak and some of you newcomers thrown him under a bus! Bernier has played 2 games, he isn’t Roy yet. This is Quicks team and he should be our guy going into the playoffs!
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jofa6000 Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
@Seattle757, i havent been sold on quick since day 1. he is a good keeper but not great. jb will be great n bring us the cup.
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JKM Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
@Seattle757,
Quick has had a bad streak and hopefully he can rest a bit and get back to business.
I agree he should start the playoffs and I hope he plays great. But if he does not we will have two great goalies to play.
I am more about getting wins right now. Who cares who scores the goals and who makes the saves as long as we win.
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As a newcomer I would just like to say GO KINGS GO.
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I don’t think it would matter if ersberg was lost to waivers… He has no future here, and that is a given, seeing as the way he is not played at all! Bernier will give Quick a run for the money, and he better be ready because this kid is for real.
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nothing wrong with EE they just needed to bring in Bernier to replace Quick.
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Mike Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 11:32 am
@jofa6000,
Not at all Quick has won 39 games. Bernier has won 2 do not get that excited.
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jofa6000 Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 2:20 pm
@Mike, oh ya tnx for the reminder. how many soft goals has quick allowed? how many has jb allowed? i rest my case. u quicl lovers will soon forget about him.
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Mike Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 5:57 pm
@jofa6000,
Wow jofa you must be joking. Well Quick has played a full season so he has let in some goals maybe he should have had. Bernier has played 2 games, so do not get that excited. Just wait we will all remember Quick for ever when he wins a cup for the Kings. Might not be this season, in the near future Quick will win a cup for the Kings. I rest my case.
I don’t think it would matter if ersberg was lost to waivers… He has no future here, and that is a given, seeing as the way he is not played at all! Bernier will give Quick a run for the money, and he better be ready because this kid is for real.
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Plus/Minus stats:
Brown is going down a lot lately, now -11
Parse with limited playing time is +14
Here are the leaders:
+22 Simmonds
+18 Doughty
+14 Parse
+14 Scuderi
+13 Stoll
+12 O’Donnell
The next highest is +6
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MrBrett7 Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 12:59 am
@King John, Who do they play against?
Simmonds, Doughty, Scuderi, Stoll, OD…I’ll grant you.
Parse plays 4-5 minutes a night mostly against 4th line talent. He gets benched because his brain takes vacations within his own end, and therein lies his problems.
He got his scoring chance tonight all because he was in the proper DEFENSIVE position (covering for Jones who pinched). Once Jones returned to the point, he came down from the point, and the Nashville forward never knew what hit him.
Parse has great talent, but MUST learn to play defense if he wants to play in the NHL on a consistent basis.
Would be good for him to also consistently make outlet passes to his teammates, not the other team (why he was benched for so long recently).
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Hubie Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 10:04 am
@MrBrett7, You must be watching a different team play as most of Parse’s time up to a few weeks ago was on the 2nd and 3rd lines. Being a former defensman myself at the pro level, i like the the way he plays in his own end and when he has had some mis-Q’s it’s generally been a result of a let down from another player. His play has been solid, which does suprise me given the lack of confidense his coach has shown him. As I have said in many posts earlier, there seems to be allot of confusion on this team and I’m sure that’s the case in the room as well.
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neil Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 10:54 am
@Hubie, if we are in a rebuilding plan(year 4 of 5)then Parse should be playing and learning from his mistakes and a plus 14 is great no matter what..
I agree Quick has been our guy all season.. However in 2 games Bernier has put up amazing numbers, including against a team that we havent beat in years. Whats everyones goal? To win the cup.. Right now if you play Quick, you lose that chance.. Go with the hot goalie.. We have seen what hot goalies can do around and in playoffs.. Quick is anything but hot right now.. He makes good saves but doesnt bring confidence to the kings cuz hes very inconsistent
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In your experience have you ever come across teams that strategize to lose games towards the end of the reg season in order to obtain a more preferable first round playoff matchup?
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So much has already been said, so I’ll probably just repeat all of it, but I’ll just state a few things:
1) Our team came back! I thought we played a real good game. It looked shaky in the 2nd, but we maintained composure. The confidence seems to be back and if we can beat Vancouver Thursday, that will prove it really IS back. VAN has had our number this season.
2) I give Jones FULL credit for Parsey’s goal. A real nice play to keep the cycle going and keep the puck in. Great read. Halpern kept his wits and made a beauty dish. Parse is going to be a SICK player in this league. He’ll be a top 6 next year if he keeps gaining confidence. Dude can FINISH! Serious talent!
3) JB looked like he’d been in the league for 10 years. No overreaction, total rebound control, He just looks like a guy who WANTS to play and WIN for this team. You MUST let him start against VAN. He won and played solid in Dallas and he got a plane ride to Manchester, so I won’t put anything past DL at this point, but I just can’t see how you deny this kid after that performance! The team fed off him and that confidence tonight. He better stay and start Thursday. Ride that pony until he falls.
4) Sean O’Donnell. Corner picking sniper. LOL! How clutch was that! Nice work O’D!
Simple game, shot mentality, pucks in deep, hard board work = win. What a TOUGH game to have to win. If this doesn’t pretty much fix the confidence issue, nothing will. Nice win boys!
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After bashing TM all week, do you think we ought to give him some praise for the “don’t be afraid of winning” speech he gave the team yesterday? I think so.
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Cheeks Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
@blueliner, I think praise is do. They played a gritty, defensive game that made for offensive oppertunities. We beat a team that was trying to win and we hadnt beaten them in a few years. Good job boys! Still some work to do before the playoffs though.
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There were a couple of key things I saw from the game:
1) Puck pursuit and control. We looked hungry!
2) Great chances from #1 line; Rinne was better or it would have been 4-0.
3) Brownie is gripping his stick too tight!
4) Bernier starts tomorrow night. Just like NSH, we haven’t had any success with VAN.
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can you have three goalies on your playoff roster? What if the Kings go to the 2nd round and the Monarchs make an early exit? Do playoff games count against the rookie 10 game limit? Is there a bench limit (size) for playoffs, or is it still “as long as you’re under the cap?”
As much as he’s been great in net, Bernier could really benefit from finishing the year back east. Plus it kind of scares me how deep he plays in net (like Potvin, but without the Cat reflexes). His positioning saves him, but then again he’s a tiny looking guy. If his D plays strong in front of him, he’ll be a superstar.
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Quisp Reply:
March 31st, 2010 at 10:40 am
@Schoeny,
yes you can carry three goalies and yes playoff games count toward bernier’s 10 games (upon which time his contract is activated). there is no roster limit after the trade deadline, but you can only have four call-ups. the kings have used one.
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