On whether the hit he weathered was a “cheap hit”:
“No, not at all. I mean, you’re allowed to hit. It’s the NHL. I’ve got to kind of put an onus on myself and know he’s coming, which, obviously I didn’t. I’ll take a clean hit. If it was the other way around, I would have been trying to hit him just as hard.”
On whether he liked that Muzzin stuck up for him:
“Yeah, I think it’s good. It shows good signs of a team, being a close team. I’d do the same for him, and the same thing if it’s the other way around…I played with Burish. I know he’d have been doing the same thing for his guy. It’s one of those things, I mean it’s a big hit. He got me. I don’t know. I’ve got no excuses. He hit me pretty good.”
On how he feels:
“I feel good. Obviously, it didn’t feel good by any means, but I stayed in the game and we get a rebound on Saturday and get to play the same team. So that’s the fun of it.”
On how to limit goals against:
“We feel like we’re playing well, but we’re having too many breakdowns. If you’re going to get into run and gun, it’s going to be tough to win games. Never mind tonight – the last number of games, we’ve been giving up too many goals. So we’ve got to tighten up defensively. We’ve got enough skill that we’re going to get enough offense, but we’ve got to take care of our own – help our goalies, and take care of our own zone first.”
Darryl Sutter declined a post-game interview session.
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CB14 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
@JonRosen, Hmmm, that’s odd. Do you know if he’s ever done that before?
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shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
@CB14, According to Lisa Dillman (LAT), he’s done it a few times before
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jess Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
@JonRosen,
I don’t blame him this time. He probably knows his limitations and is very frustrated tonight.
The way I feel after this game, I couldn’t be interviewed by anyone. I’d kick their teeth in (not directed @ you of course JR).
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jet Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
@jess, this is the truth
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
Sutter hurts for his team. He saw Phoenix coming (if you follow his comments after the previous game.) He might have thought they’d handle this one better. I guess the team won’t be lackadaisical returning home and defending their ice Saturday.
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K-Dog Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
@JonRosen, he could have at least given us the 20 second John Tortorella “we stunk” interview!
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Duncanz Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
@K-Dog, “No, I’m not going to give [the other team] any credit!!”
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K-Dog Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
@Duncanz, Torts is classic!!
shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
@K-Dog, Speaking of Tortsy… I turned on my TV and literally, there he was. “No I don’t think the Sabres were a better team, I thought we STUNK.”
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K-Dog Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
@shiny, Tortorella Interview Regarding the Sabres Game, which is exactly how I would expect Sutter to feel about tonights performance… Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwGd6rPScms
chuckie Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
@JonRosen, If he bit his upper lip off answering what he saw tonight he would have no lips left. Smart move by DS.
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jet Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
@chuckie, yep, if you can’t say anything good, just let it go. The players know.
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Duncanz Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
I posted it during the game. He is STEAMING right now.
Some of his coaching selections didn’t work out.
And some of the automatic selections didn’t work out either.
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
@Duncanz,
Do your stuff. The show must go on.
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No DS…good night!
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Verno Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
“If it was the other way around, I would have been trying to hit him just as hard.”
I didn’t see one real hit coming from anyone on the team.
Now that Brown thinks he’s a sniper his hitting will be even more subdued. He must think he’s still in Switzerland :/
poop.
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Lake Forest Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 7:09 am
@Verno, he scored two goals. Jeez would you rather him hit and not score anyone?
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King Cobra Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:48 am
@Lake Forest, Good Point
Not surprised that Sutter didn’t do a presser tonight. The team had a lot of ugly breakdowns at crucial moments and he’s got a lot of thinking to do about Saturday
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puck73 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
@shiny, Whats the old saying? If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it? Im sure Sutter is as red as a tomato right now, and the last thing he wants to do is melt down like Tortarella.
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tornado12 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
@puck73, Or get a fine. You know many cows he could buy with 50k?
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jess Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
@tornado12, haha
He must be pissed or dealing with something, then again he doesnt care for the media and knows it will be goalie talk the whole time. Can’t blame him. Again DL was there and maybe it was a meeting or seeing ol friends etc. Lotsa possibilities.
Park and ride, we got the next game, just need to play more physical. Hard hits.
Personally, I woulndt mind it if we targeted clown a bit but know we are better than that.
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Fraser is a great competitor. I’m so glad the Oil jacked us around and we ended up with him.
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Kings x Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, coulda had that brule guy.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
@Kings x, Brule played 41 games last season and was a -7.
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I miss the sutterisms. Quite honest these kids have to look over the cows to see the trees right? We friggin stank it up tonight and lost but its not whether you win or lost its whether you’re winning or losing. It’s all about the results
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CB14 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
@Kings x, Just wait, I’m sure Duncanz will be along shortly with his Sutter impression, it’s quite hilarious.
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mash-ola Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
@Kings x, maybe something like, “You know what? You give up two power play goals you’re going to be behind, right? It’s not easy playing from behind. It’s about playing defense and not allowing more than you score. If we score more and let in fewer goals, our chances of winning are pretty good, right?”
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shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
@mash-ola, You forgot to say “Quite honest” a few times
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I love Fraser for stepping up and calling it like it is. A clean hit. Sutter keeping his humor inside is just mean and selfish. We’ll never get those answers. Well, unless someone recreates them below.
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puck73 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Someone recreates them below? Stick around, The Late Late show should begin shortly.
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jess Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
@puck73,
Oh are you the one with the key to the Gimp’s box? I thought only Duncanz was the Gimp’s Keeper..
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Mik3ysfv Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 3:16 am
@jess, seriously, I spit my drink on my phone.
Mik3ysfv Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 3:41 am
@jess, the last person to make me do that was Rudy Kelly @BOC
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
@puck73, Scottish people are far, far more entertaining.
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shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), So Paul, do you think our defense is cracking? Is it still too much too soon?
(I was maintaining the belief that the defense was merely BENDING, not necessarily CRACKING. Tonight, I think I saw a chink…)
kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
Scottish!?!?!?
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
late late show, craig ferguson, oh, never mind.
as for the d, they are very young. that’s not going to change unless there’s an addition. otherwise we’ll continue to see fits and starts.
shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Ohhh I get the Scottish joke now. I was like where did that come from?!
Anyways, doesn’t it seem like the 3 veteran forwards should not be having the same mental lapses as the young defenseman? And what’s up with Scuderi lately? Why does he keep turning the puck over or am I just imagining things?
LVKINGS88 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Craig Ferguson is a crack up and Geoff always tickles my funny BONE.. i think he’s the funniest late night talk show host by far.
shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Do you think Kings should trade for Regher or someone other SAH D guy?
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:14 am
Yes, I do. But I have no idea who or if it’s feasible. But the fact remains the Kings need Mitchell. His knee is jerk. Get it? Oh, never mind.
As for the team, it’s well, a team. So yes, everyone could have been better. Some of the forwards and Quick. Scuderi is fine IMO. To me he’s playing just like he always does overall.
Mik3ysfv Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 3:18 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Paul, -1 for Craig Ferguson.
CB14 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
@puck73, Yikes, I’m outta here.
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linny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 1:58 am
@Paul A. or @Shiny CLASS ACT all Thea way by Fraser! On defense, i think it was “sbnation” that said the kings should go after Vandermeer, Champoli, Weber or Leopold and Hjarmallson…but Regehr n People r both 32 n I think with Sabres close to being out of it we should take a shot. I’m sure they wont want Ellerby but throw in maybe a 3rd or even a 2nd for Regehr n they might bite. I think that could give us a good shot at playoffs
If some calls me a “late night crazy” I’ll have to post this again tomorrow aft.
Growing pains hurt like hell but we will be a better team when we come through the other side. Lots of youngsters learning the NHL the old trial by fire method. This will make them better players in the long run. Disapointing last 2 games but we still have a lot of hockey to play. We might not repeat bug I believe we will make noise in the playoffs and our Kings will make us proud. Losing just sucks!
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shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
@King Alex, You know what? I believe we can repeat, quite honest. These kids are young, right? They’ve still a lot to learn, gotta get Muzz to learn how to protect his own back end, right?
Ok, but seriously. You’re right, growing pains hurt like hell but at the end of the season, they’ll be bruised and battered but they will have made it through. I honestly DO believe that the Kings can repeat but lately, they’ve been having collective mental lapses as a team where the entire 5 man unit on the ice just kinda stands around looking at the opposing team going, “Well what do you wanna do with the puck?”
Once they’re back on home ice, they’ll be good again. But as Sutter said, he can protect the kids with the final lineup change.
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King Alex Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
@shiny, I agree with the whole 5 man unit comment. Good eye. Especially in the D zone. It almost looks like slow motion when the defensive breakdowns come. You can just see it will be going in the back if the net. Good for us not a gosh darn thing in hockey is won in March. Plenty of time left. All our veterans need to adjust their play to help out our up & coming youngsters.
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shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
@King Alex, I just don’t understand how the veterans (none of whom are young or rookies) don’t get in on the back check or know where to stand to block shots or stand in front of the net to screen properly. I’m scratching my head that the forwards seem to be on the perimeter of the ice while the D is scrambling to hold off the opposing offense. Maybe I’m being too harsh but that’s how it appears to me. That’s how it’s appeared the last 3 games where we lost
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
@shiny, I think it’s very unlikely. The season’s a sprint and they lost a shoe.
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shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Didn’t we all think it was unlikely that the Kings could beat Vancouver in the first round last season? I know it seems more unlikely this season but I honestly really believe they have a shot. As much as anybody at least. And Greener won’t be out forever. Mitchell, possibly, but at least with 1 of our 2 best D men back, we’ll have an even great shot at repeating. I’m a fool, but I believe
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:09 am
@shiny, I didn’t. I was confident out of the box last season and very confused 1/3 of the way in–figured it had to be Murray, and probably was right. If things break perfectly (hence “unlikely”) things could work out well. The season’s just too short, I think.
shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:20 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Like I said, I’m a fool. I believe that even with this very young defense, the Kings still have a shot at repeating. They’re so freaking talented and Sutter is a very good mentor (though he’s had some questionable decisions lately, goalie wise) for these young guys.
I’m still hoping and praying that the Kings can get Matt Greene back before the end of the season but I don’t know. He hasn’t skated at all yet and there’s still about 5 weeks left of the season to go. Would it be wise to throw him into the lineup at the start of the post season? I have no idea. But if they do manage to get him back, he’ll go a long way towards helping the Kings repeat.
Bug I believe? Another case of smartphone & dumb user!
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Duncanz Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
@King Alex, Merely a bug in the system..
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King Alex Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
@Duncanz, or a ghost in the machine!
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Kings x Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:08 am
@King Alex, does jeff fahey still play for the sharks? I thought he got traded
three things need to happen to bring home the W.
1. token needs to have a better seat so that our forwards can hear him yell, ‘get back’.
2. we need to switch goalies at the game’s second faceoff.
3. Fox needs to put the grilled fish commercial on before the start of the first period instead of before the second or third period.
Boom, W
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shiny Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
@jet, Who’s Token?
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jet Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
@shiny, a long time blogger who went up to the game tonight
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tornado12 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
@shiny, A very knowledgable OG poster here who lives the bay area but refuses to meet up and watch kings games with me!
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Attention late night blog zombies:
Take some effin pride in this blog, and don’t muck up the joint..
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King Alex Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
@jess, in all fairness, when TM was here, we were a team of muckers & grinders!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
@jess, Umm….well….ur sure askin’ a lot thar bud…I mean…crap…ask flemface…itz…sm pplz only chanz 2 partay.
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Duncanz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:24 am
@jess, Glass houses.
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jess Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:36 am
@Duncanz,
I would be proud to direct anyone here to the conversation you’re referring to. Go ahead. Tell them. If you think in anyway you’re skillfully comparing my dialogue with another on the blog to your many late night antics with @phil. Then enjoy your fantasy. Many here don’t see it that way.
If anyone is interested in what @duncanz is talking about, please go to the game blog and check it out for yourself. My last post was @ 12:27 am. It ended with mutual respect.
Time for bed. Big day tomorrow.
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Duncanz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:38 am
mine do as well …. at least from my side
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:48 am
^ feigned respect. what’s next, crocodile tears?
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:54 am
@Duncanz,
There are levels of lowness, then there’s what you do at night. Subterranean blogging.
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Duncanz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 1:02 am
/\ Not a good reader of people zzzz
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 1:13 am
^ Not good people. Period.
Duncanz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 1:22 am
Well, I’ve never been moved enough to call someone a ‘punk’ on a public blog before ….
And I won’t be now.
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:08 am
I’ve said a helluva lot worse than that! But hey, some of us grow up, while otherz avoid it at all costs.
Duncanz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:35 am
lol
Jon, can you get us an update on big willie and greener? I love the youngens, but the rubber bands and duck tape are starting to fray.
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King Alex Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:08 am
@jet, the only update we will get until both are at least on the ice is Mitchell has a lower body injury & Greene has an lower/upper body injury.
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jet Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:20 am
@King Alex, that’s all well and good, but are you willing to chip in for more duct tape?
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King Alex Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:26 am
@jet, I’ll get a case of it & some Elmer’s Glue at Home Depot if it will help!
I don’t care who DS goes with the #1 goalie..Quick has earned it, Bernier has played better lately…but whoever it is, back to back nights, both goalies play…Period…its that simple
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King Alex Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:10 am
@wobsse6, you know that, I know that, the whole blog knows that but the only opinion that matters is DS & did he finally learn that?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:11 am
@wobsse6, I’d say the team needs a wake-up call, and the roles need to be reversed for about two weeks, with, as you say, both playing in back-to-back night situations. Not like we have any say in it.
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Somewhere Store and O’Donnell are having nightmares. Meanwhile the number 6 is throwing a party with farm animals and fire trucks!!
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Did Evans get some sun?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:11 am
@wobsse6, I think he sleeps in a tanning bed.
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jet Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:22 am
@wobsse6, he is up for the lead in the next Carl’s Jr. commercial.
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Duncanz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:27 am
@jet, Don’t get fried!
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OK, I’m done with the debate for tonight. I shall see you all in the morning for the post game notes debate. Goodnight all
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I had to come back and post one last thing. In light of our own “goaltender controversy,” this is actually a very funny video done by TSN about Luongo and Schneider.
Why should we care about those ‘Nucks? Well it has nothing to do with the Kings-Canucks rivalry and it’s a funny, lighthearted video. Something needed after a disappointing loss.
http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=pipe42/latest/1/0/884953/clip/0
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Kopi was a BEAST! Loved his game other than the missed opportunity obviously. He forcibly took pucks away from anyone he wanted to tonight and I couldn’t help but feel this HAD to be mentioned
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“playoffs ? ….. playoffs ? ….. yur talking to me about playoffs ? ….. playoffs ? …… im just
trying to win a darn game …… playoffs ? ….. you kidding me ? ……. playoffs ?”
missing daryll sutter postgame interview
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wow … dissapointing …… dont know where to begin ……….. other than to say . i dont agree with putting your trailing team down 4 minutes mr muzzin … and didnt agree last year when richards did it ………….
i know its hockey code that u must retaliate on a play like that , but u could just as easily have a staged fight with the guy right after a faceoff like they do all the time …. that way u could pick your fighter ……. and not one wearing a visor …. its just stupid what muzzin did …. it single handedly lost us the game …… and deshardins or whoever made the check singlehandedly won it for the sharks by getting some dummy on the kings with a visor to retaliate ……… i know its hockey 101 that u retaliate , but i think it stupid as hell ………..
even if they dont score the 2 goals ….. we are trailing …. and it takes 4 valuable minutes off the clock that we need to help try and get the thing tied back up …….. just dont see any logic in it whatsoever ….. none
dustin brown is proving to me he is now one of the top ten best players in the national hockey league ……………… ever since the trade deadline last year …….. this guy has been absolutely amazing ………. catch and release immediately , wicked wristers , no bobbling of passes in any fashion , becoming a brillant playmaker with great vision and beautiful passes ……….. wow …. what a turnaround …. im so happy to have him now ….. what a pleasure to watch …….. and im not even talking about his hitting
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phil sykes Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 3:19 am
@phil sykes, and im sure daryll was okay with muzz stepping up ….. so im not really even blaming muzzin …… im blaming the team for having this mindset that it must always be done ……. no , not always , and definately not by a guy with a visor when u are trailing …….
this is the kind of undisiplined thinking that imploded any chance phoenix had against us last year in the playoffs …. we were disciplined all playoffs long ……. and against us phoenix completely imploded …………….
it should be a lesson to the kings to never do this again ………… but hockey code being hockey code – they will probably not learn their lesson …….. sure hope that undisciplined way of thinking dosent cost us a playoff spot …….. if we miss the playoffs by 1 or 2 points , we can look back on muzzins decision with great regret
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phil sykes Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 3:37 am
@phil sykes, many other games we could look back on too , of course … but just saying this one in particular should be remembered along with any others one might conjuer up …. because 2 goals were scored extending the lead to 3-0 , it basically was like a forfeit . much like jersey against us in game 6 ……………. if u end up giving up multiple goals on the bad penalty …… well uve just cooked your goose and the game is over – forfeit basically
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Mik3ysfv Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 3:26 am
@phil sykes, I agree with it, Jake Muzzin did not cost us the game, the penalty kill did. Jonathan Quick needs to take his game up. Are you still awake, Phil Sykes?
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Russ Dynda Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:54 am
@phil sykes, Agree with you completely. It seems that only you and I remember the Richards fight last year which turned a win into a loss and a 3-point turnaround in the standings at a time where we were still fighting to make the playoffs. (Remember, we lost five of our last eight during the regular season, so we weren’t riding this Sutter wave into the Playoffs.) “Stepping up” to me means making the other team pay on the scoreboard, not some juvenile jousting. Does anyone really believe that you “send a message” when you fight on ice? Most of the players are millionaires and aren’t going to change their hockey approach and risk their careers because they’re afraid someone will punch them out. Hell, it’s far more dangerous on ice absorbing hits, getting hit by sticks, or 100mph pucks, or razor sharp skates.Just because guys don’t fight doesn’t make them wimps. Not unless you have some twisted mentality. And with that mentality I suggest some sport more akin, like mixed martial arts and cagefighting. I remind you that one of the things that helped us be so successful in the Playoffs last year was Dustin Brown agitating but not getting drawn into fights. He drew a number of key penalties that way. It’s about time we start thinking about winning games and forget measuring the size of our genitals.
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:09 am
@Russ Dynda, Jake Muzzin is a young player who still has alot to learn. He is doing some great things on the PP, and sees the ice well in the offensive zone. That being said, he still has much to learn on the D side, and you are right, he thought he was doing the right thing by sticking up for a teammate, but by leaving his helmet and visor on it cost the team BIG TIME.
Also, lost in all this, is the terrible save percentage this season by JQ. Look, I am a big JQ guy, that being said, this is a performance based business and all the players and coaches know this. With the shortened season we have, JQ better right the ship fast or he will be sitting on the bench if Bernier continues to outplay him.
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:11 am
@Russ Dynda,
Tell that to Roman Polak!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg
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Duncanz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
@kissmybloggystones, …. speaking of genital waving and measuring!
The excessive alcohol earlier in the evening usually wakes me up and keeps me awake from 1 a.m. to 430 a.m. I have time on my hands if you do.
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Funny, I remember when this team couldn’t score power play goals to save them and we thought that if they could just score on the PP, this team would be so much better. I guess with Mitchell and Greene out, the defense and goaltending can’t take advantage of the new found scoring touch on the PP.
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KLos Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:39 am
@vplaza, KE is not WM. DD2 is not MG. Domino effect. RS is not reliable RS. DD is squeezing it. And JQ is not dominant JQ. So yes PP looks much improved under DP. But GA suffering in absence of 2 stalwart and perhaps under appreciated guys. Not time to panic. But must be corrected if LAK to be a playoff team.
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:13 am
@KLos, well isn’t that what Sutter keeps saying? And everyone thinks that trading for a good SAH defenseman is the solution but I’m not so sure it is… I just hope the guys can turn it around in time for the playoffs
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It tried to have an entire conversation with itself. /\/\
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:35 am
@jess, Looks like people on this blog gave @Phil Sykes the worst punishment he could get…..total silence.
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Lake Forest Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:47 am
@puck73, Liek said before. Don’t feed the monster. 10 replies won’t change peoples minds.
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Whoa, a lot of people taking shots at one another on here, the past couple games. 2 game losing streak? I don’t think it’s a coincidence.
I won’t name names, but someone was bashing Stoll last night cause he missed the net, calling him a ‘chick’? Come on man, learn the game of hockey. How well does he do in the faceoffs? Is he a good penalty killer or no? What does he do every time in the shoot out? Where does the puck go? It’s usually in the top corner. That’s his style, deal with it. He shoots for the corners.
Stoll does so many things for this team that go unnoticed or don’t come on the stat sheet. If/when he gets in the passing lane to block a pass that would have gone to a wide open player, does it get noticed? By some yes, by others no.
It’s people like this guy that would mouth Stoll for missing the net, but also mouth him for hitting the goalie in the stomach with the shot.
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:37 am
@California Royalty, Totally agree.
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Goring 19 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:16 am
@California Royalty, some people watch the game, they understand the rules of the game, players who score goals etc… however, they don’t get the nuances of the game regarding players contributions to a team including all the intangibles that help a team win. Stoll’s a great example of that, Kopi is another with his offensive and strong defensive game. Just because they’re not scoring doesn’t mean they’re not contributing.
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California Royalty Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 11:15 am
@Goring 19, Well said my friend. I’m glad someone gets it!
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I just
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DesertKing Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 7:32 am
@DesertKing
wanted to see what it
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DesertKing Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 7:33 am
@DesertKing,
was like to post something then reply to myself
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DesertKing Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 7:36 am
@DesertKing,
and then reply to myself again. Now that I have done it, I don’t know why anyone would actually do it on a regular basis.
shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:05 am
@DesertKing, well no one else will talk to him… and he clearly has a point to make… so… obviously he needs to carry the conversation on with himself…
Lake Forest Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:48 am
@DesertKing, when it’s short posts I tend to read it, when it’s long ones i tend to ignore it.
Michael J. Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:35 am
@DesertKing,
HA HA!
KJ Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
@DesertKing, that made me laugh, a lot!
You have to be very concerned with the number of goals we’re giving up recently. We’re not going to score 4 goals every night and we sure as hell can’t be giving up 5.
I thought Quick made some hige saves, especially at the end of the 1st but then gives up goals that he needs to make saves on. It’s unacceptable this late in the season. Any rust from the lockout or injury, unless he’s still hurt, should have dissipated long ago.
If we can’t count on our #1 goalie, who by the way got a Kings ransom during the off season, we’re in deep sh**.
It’s not all JQ’s fault, but he’s always been able to pickup the team when there are breakdowns and that’s not happening right now.
Our D needs to really start cleaning things up from the circle down. The defensive structure has been poor for way too long. We have young kids and they’re going to make mistakes, but our vets are also making too many stupid mistakes. Not to mention that terrbile coverage by the forwards on simple plays.
Losses are going to happen and the fact that we continue to battle back is a good thing, but we’re not going to win anything this year if our goaltending and defensive structure doesn’t do a 180 and quickly.
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:40 am
@nykingfan, If Greene and Mitchell are not coming back this season, and, thats always possible, they will have to go get a veteran that can eat up minutes because young d men make mistakes.
Its the hardest position to become consistent at in The NHL.
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So practice today at noon at TSC. I hope they get to work on some of their defensive breakdowns in practice today.
I’m no coach but last time they dropped a game and had an intense practice after, they did.very well in their next game. So.. maybe they need another intense, back-to-basics practice.
Dunno, just throwing that thought out there.
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Michael J. Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:38 am
@shiny,
Kings present struggles are mental not physical. A hard practice might only tire these guys out. Next three weeks are sure to be tough on bodies. No need to go Andy Murray.
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Sutter: Guys, you’re just talking. Talking, “la-la-la-la”, like this is business as usual. It’s not.
DL: We’re trying to solve the problem here, Darryl.
Sutter: Not like this you’re not. You’re not even looking at the problem.
DL: We’re very aware of the problem. I mean…
Sutter: Okay, good. What’s the problem?
DL: Look, Darryl, we all understand what the problem is. We have to…
Sutter: Okay, good. What’s the problem?
DL: The problem is Quick can’t stop an f’n puck.
Sutter: Nope. What’s the problem?
DL: Same as it’s ever been. We’ve gotta get Bernier in there.
Sutter: Nope. What’s the problem, Stevens?
Stevens: We need a .962 save %, and a .50 GAA.
Sutter: Ehh! [imitates buzzer] The problem we’re trying to solve is that there are defensive teams and there are pourous teams. Then there’s fifty layers of crap, and then there’s us. It’s an unfair game. And now we’ve been gutted on D. We’re like a welcoming committe in the slot. Boston’s winning, Sharks have taken our heart. And you guys just sit around talking the same old “good body” nonsense like we’re selling jeans. Like we’re looking for Fabio. We’ve got to think differently. We are the Big Dog at the bowl. You see what happens to the runt of the litter? They need to die!!
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@kingszzz, what?? Lmao
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kingszzz Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 8:14 am
@shiny, if you haven’t seen Moneyball, it makes no sense. It may still not. I’ll stick to my day job.
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I don’t think the kings played bad at all…take away the soft goals and its a 3 2 game…in a 3 2 league. I know if S.J
doesn’t score the goals it changes the rest of the game but kings just need to clean up a few things and start bernier next game
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Young D are getting pushed around, they aren’t playing that bad, just being pushed out of position or run over.
Any team with a strong big 1st line 2nd line run us over.
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Goring 19 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:08 am
@Lake Forest, The young D is being exposed but I expected a little more from Martinez this season and I’m trying to figure out where the real Mr. Voynov has gone these past few games. Muzzin still has a lot to learn too…
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:20 am
@Goring 19, I’m trying to figure out what happened to Scuds. Lately he’s been a turnover machine. I don’t think DD sucked at all last night. I probably wouldn’t have put him in at the end, though. I maybe would’ve had Muzzlezilla and VV out there. VV for his super accurate one timers and Muzzlezilla for his wrist shot
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Lake Forest Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:31 am
@shiny, Scuds is getting old and it’s a short quick schedule. He’s been playing like we are not going to over him a extension.
G’Dammit Puck73!!
Now I have nothing to read in the morning.
Buzz Kill!
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:12 am
@kissmyblarneystones, Quality, not quanity. Staying up late, doing lines on a oak coffee table til 6 in the morning and trying to outwit someone named Phil is not quality.
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Neil Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:16 am
@puck73, Iam very proud that some of the “Late Night Crew” took the night off !!! Kinda wonder if Dr Phil noticed???
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:24 am
@Neil, probably. But someone (Russ) decided to feed the animal this morning. The post was too long so I didn’t bother reading it
kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:28 am
@Neil,
@Puck73
It was both comedic and tragic reading this morning. Blogging to oneself.
Clearly, @Russdynda didn’t get the memo. We nearly had a shutout, but then again he is a fellow corn fielder.
Real reason DS didnt talked last night….He didnt want to discuss TT……..
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It all comes down to not having Mitchell and Greene right now. Our young D is struggling, and to be honest, nobody should be surprised. Mitchell and Greene were huge on the PK as well. The more games these guys play the better they will get. I’d like to see Martinez step up a bit more and seize this opportunity. I’d also like to see Quick play at a higher level (not expecting that torrid playoff level) but just much more consistent. He seems like he’s battling the puck consistently. I think coming home will help this team get back on a roll. Trust the system.
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:21 am
@Noah, Terry?? Is that you?? Just kidding
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Neil Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:22 am
@Noah, little bit of everything…Quick is off…defense is young…Greene and Mitchell are missing…Kings play better at home cause of the last line changes….considering all the problems that we are having…we are right there in the standings….
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:40 am
@Neil, yeah, it could be worse. With all of our struggles, we are still in the hunt for a playoff spot.
Just imagine what will happen when this team is finally healthy – we could be next season’s Hawks. Kidding. Gotta focus on tomorrow’s game first
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Shotongoal Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:40 am
@Neil, still with all that said, and I agree that Quick is struggling, and they miss Greene and Mitchell, and Scuderi has not been his usual solid self, and Martinez has been a disappointment thus far, and having youngsters playing big minutes on “D”, they are not being blown out of games, are still very much in the thick of the playoff race, and are actually a much better team now than they were at this time last season. I’m not that worried about this team, maybe I’m missing something, but I’d be pretty confident that this team could repeat and they still have most of half the season left to improve.
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Neil Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:51 am
@Shotongoal, Even DS said it yesterday..only 2 games where he felt that the Kings didnt play well/hard. I said this before but I beleive it..its a hard season to get a grasp on…lack of training camp..practice time reduced…too many games in a short time…Look how S.J. started and then faded…every team(other Chi and Ana) has been up and down.Look at Columbus now…Iam enjoying this season but Iam looking forward to next season with a regular schedule…
Shotongoal Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:06 am
@Shotongoal, yes totally agree. Next season will be Sutter’s first training camp with this team! Amazing what they have accomplished when that is considered, right?
shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:24 am
@Shotongoal, agreed, which is why he gets my vote for coach of the year. He’s got 1/3 of his defense out and he’s playing with a rookie, a sophomore, a scratch (DD2), a new kid and 2 vets, one of whom has never had so.much pressure.or responsibility (cursed fat fingers on this smart phone with the world’s tiniest keyboard!) I know the guy in Ottawa is probably the “coach of the year” and Quenneville (or whatever his name is) for their team’s accomplishments, but their teams were relatively healthy (except Karlsson getting butchered).
Our team started with 2 key defensemen out, then Martini went down and the Kings didn’t break, roll over and lay down and die. I don’t see why Sutter isn’t getting recognized for that incredible accomplishment. The whole goalie thing is tough because you want your #1 to play like it and you hope he can play through his inconsistencies but that’s why you have a solid backup.
shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:25 am
@Shotongoal, ugh sorry, that came out longer than I intended and I was too lazy to edit it (my excuse is that I’m on my phone)
On the bright side of things, our offense is a lot better than last year!
2 goals on a 4 minute PP. I still think it was a mistake for MUZZ to fight. The 4th line was out there – Nolan and Cliffy were in the area.
I’ll give him 1 pass on this as he needs to know HE’s NOT a fighter and now he knows about the visor.
It was a clean hit, no need to fight.
had that not happened, this would have been a different game.
Put JB in Sutter!
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Couple of things:
Fraser needs to ride the pine. I have yet to see that he is a full time NHL player. More like a guy you cycle into the fourth line every now and then, for some energy. He plays boneheaded and allows himself to get cranked too often. If he was a smarter hockey player those two PP goals don’t happen.
This team is lacking a leader on defense. And DD needs to step up to the challenge. He is being paid like a Norris candidate d-man and needs to play like one. I am happy with the rest of the D. They are a young group and learning. Drew wanted the big money, got it, and there are no excuses for him. As the NHL has shown year after year, the great teams have a stud of defense. We are lacking that right now.
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Here something that hasnt been heard around this part of town for a long time…We have a awesome and neat PP…. Even when we dont score it looks good….Take away the beginning of the season when we didnt have time to practice with the new coach and since then its has to be near the top !!!
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DesertKing Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:44 am
@Neil,
+1
Fire Kompon!
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Shotongoal Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:44 am
@Neil, which is ALWAYS an important thing come playoff time. A good power makes teams a little more tentative and that can be the kiss of death come playoff time. This PP could be the difference this playoff season for the Kings to offset the play in their own zone not being what it was last season.
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:45 am
@Neil, agreed. Our PP is finally starting to look better. Too bad our PK has taken a hit…
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goldielocks Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:51 am
@Neil,
Davis Payne was coordinating the atack in final minute last night. Could recent success of PP be his work?
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Neil Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 9:53 am
@goldielocks, could be….at the start of this season the Kings were playing the same PP as last season..but after they had time to work with DP..Its been alot better!!! Love how they set it up and pass the puck…
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I think that last night’s game was an accurate indicator of just how badly the Kings miss both Greener and Mitchell. I believe that neither the third or fourth goals against would have happened had those guys been in the lineup.
The third one had a shart (forget who it was) screening JQ – neither Willie or Greene would have put up with that.
As for the fourth, I would only hope that either guy would have been out there understanding the situation better than DD did. Doughty was the last guy back and did not play it safely enough to ensure the puck was cleared or protected.
Oh well, nobody said it was going to be easy.
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PlayerXatHoldThePoint Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:00 am
@Michael J., There was no screen on that shot from Couture, it is clear on the later replay Fox did. the first replay is from high up on the side, but later they used a camera from right behind the net. I broke it down here, with screen shots proving it. For sure there is no screen on that one, Quick just whiffed.
http://holdthepoint.com/2013/03/15/sometimes-its-sushi-sometimes-its-bait-kings-v-sharks-3-14-2013/
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Shotongoal Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:02 am
@Michael J., just to add though, Martinez should have never been leaving the zone before the puck did. He was lost on that play, and in fact checked Doughty out of the play once he lost the puck. Bad play by Doughty but inexcusable mistake by Martinez, playing like an Eastern Conf dman on that play.
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goldielocks Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:09 am
@Michael J.,
Agreed. What Greene and Mitchell do is providing the last line of defense. They clear the rebound, wrestle out the opponent in the crease area. Although their style of defense is different (Greene = muscle, Mitchell = use of stick), they are both highly effective in that area. And that kinda work doesn’t come easily. The only experienced D-man can handle the hazardous situation in the most unharmed way. Even Doughty’s unparalleled talent cannot defend the area as effective as they are. He needs more time to develop.
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On the third period goal by the Sharks right out of the gate, who’s fault was that really? I feel like Martinez shouldn’t have been ahead of the puck since, well, he is a Dman…but Doughty also didn’t give up the puck soon enough before he was attacked and stripped of the puck.
In my opinion, Doughty has been fairly decent on the D side of his game, but once it flips over to creating some offense he has really been bad on making good passes and creating any plays. I don’t see him making quicker/sharper passes and the D always are on him to turn it over. Not even just Doughty, but most guys have had a hard time creating good passes to get out of our zone and through the neutral zone. Too many times have we turned it over by just holding on to the puck and not making a quicker passing decision.
Hopefully we come back tomorrow night with a vengeance and show ‘em how we really play!
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Shotongoal Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:03 am
@Adam, agree Martinez made a huge mistake on that play AND checked Doughty out of the play too!
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BringBackKingston Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:47 am
@Shotongoal, I don’t know. I just watched the re-play & Martinez was playing his man along the left boards. He was suppose to be there. DD rotated down low to the left of Bernier. Kopi was right in the slot, filling in the space that DD vacated. So AM plays his man and the puck goes low. DD intercepts the pass but his touch of the puck puts it too far in front of him. To make matters worse the puck was played in the space that AM and his man are skating to. At the same time DD touches the puck Kopi peels away from the slot and start skating foward. He doesn’t see that DD misplayed the puck bc he turned away from it. Then, well, DD goes teammate bowling & Bernier was left high & dry.
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Most amazing Stat….Congrats to Jon for this blog…over 1200 comments for a game on a Thursday night……Its has to be a record for a individual team to have that many comments.LA Kings Insiders has the most bloggers of any team !!! It really is amazing…right???
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Where is Adam M.??? Cant wait for his take!!!! You know he wants Bernier !!!!
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:10 am
@Neil, I think Quick is amazing and he was great to carry his team to the SC last year. This year he should split the workload with Bernier so he has a chance to regain his swagger. Plus, the team just plays better (ok small sample size of 4 games) in front of him. Or maybe it’s just a coincidence since they were all crappy teams (although we’re currently tied with the Blues so either we suck or they don’t actually suck that badly)
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:23 am
@Neil, @Adam M is down at police headquarters giving his staement to Jon Rosen about all the people picking on him.
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:42 am
@puck73,
You mean about the ‘person’ picking on him.
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goldielocks Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:46 am
@puck73,
I see the squad car outside …
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vplaza Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:47 am
@Neil,
Rumor has it Bernier for Iginla and a draft pick? The way Quick is playing right now, is that something you entertain?
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:51 am
@vplaza, Not a chance V. Iginla is washed up, and we need a veteran D man to eat up minutes and take the pressure of the young D men.
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vplaza Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:53 am
@puck73,
I hope sane minds prevail.
If we had Gagne, Moulson, Purcell, Simmonds, Schenn, Westgarth, Kompon, Lokti, JMFJ and Fukufuji, we would have won the game.
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goldielocks Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:15 am
@Lake Forest,
You forgot Boyle.
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Lake Forest Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:18 am
@goldielocks, I did like Boyle
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vplaza Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:24 am
@Lake Forest,
With Bordson on the ice, that would have been in the refrigerator.
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shiny Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:27 am
@Lake Forest, what about Hickey and Clune?
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Lake Forest Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:45 am
@shiny, F those guys!
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Mental breakdowns….2 goals on an instigator penalty and one on Doughty’s miscue. I don’t see reason to panic. The team’s playing well. By the way Duncanz, I’m not an Asian girl lol. I’m a 56 year old male that grew up in L.A. loving the Kings, lost my mind and moved to Missouri. Phil Sykes, you’re welcome
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DesertKing Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 11:25 am
@Pili,
Funny, your posts sounded more like someone who was only 55….
,
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I still think it would have taken Boyle, O’Sullivan, Ersberg, Moller and Zieler and TM to get it done
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puck73 Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:24 am
@Ravens, Gee, no love for Cammalari?
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goldielocks Reply:
March 15th, 2013 at 10:32 am
@puck73,
Simmonds expalined his recent goal was because he had been watching Handzus and Smith for a while.
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Just once during his tenure with the LAK, I’d like hear DS say this during the post game interview after a loss like last night:
“…And for those in the team who think they got no practice tomorrow: SIX AM, bag skate, pussies!!! I wanna see every single one of them work their @#*)ing arses off until they puke their @$%&ing guts out! This is not @#$%ing Baseball! Do they wanna make the playoffs or not? Goddamnit!!
Just once, DS…do it for the fans!!
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