On whether the game was more wide open than the team would have liked:
“Not really. It wasn’t really that wide open. They were a fresh team, we were a tired team. Simple. Not hard to figure out.”
On the first period issues:
“I think a tired team, a fresh team.”
On whether there’s consolation in being above their standing from a season ago:
“It’s a totally different season. An 82-game schedule’s a marathon. A 48-game schedule when you play 48 in 98…you know what? Their guys will say the same thing. When you play three in four, and all those things – look, last year has nothing to do with it. We’re just trying to go game by game. Trying to get something out of everybody.”
On the movement on the power play:
“Actually, our power play is good. Other than the first period, we played all right. Scuderi friggin’ made a bad mistake, let the team go up three-nothing on killing the penalty. It was the difference in the hockey game.”
Ouch…Calling out Scuderi like that?
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Kenny44 Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
@mrbrett7,
You 7′s really stick together, eh?
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
@Kenny44, hahaha…yeah, I guess we do.
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Noah Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
@mrbrett7, it’s true and I don’t have a problem with it. Scuderi has been beat to the puck way too much this year. I think he’s grown enough not to take offense to the comment.
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Ryan Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
@Noah, I’m sure Scuderi would agree with what Sutter said. Too many times he’s missed the puck when he chance to poke it away this year. But on a positive note, Scuderi has been playing great as usual this year. Just the mistakes are a littel higher than usual
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Noah Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
@Ryan, to me he seems a step or two slower than last year. Just my opinion.
shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
@Ryan, I’d say a lot higher than usual. I’m not normally one to notice things like turnovers but man I can’t stop noticing what Scuderi does to turn the puck over! If Martinez is copying this guy no wonder Marty keeps turning the puck over. I love Scuds but he hasn’t been clearing the puck properly lately. Nearly every time he chips the puck out, the opposing team’s offense picks it up and brings it right back into the Kings’ zone and there goes the Merry Go ‘Round
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:01 am
@Ryan, I haven’t “thrown him under the bus” so far, but yeah, Scuds seems to be having a less solid year than years past.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:12 am
@Ryan, Then again…everyone’s probably gripping the stick a bit tightly without Greener and Willie, and it’s not one team losing games. Every position could have been better.
CB14 Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
@Noah, He has, but he, along with DD, has also been asked to do alot of the heavy lifting defensively this season with MG and WM being out. The loss of those 2 guys has really hurt us on the PK. Last year we were 4th on the PK, this year we’re 15th. I’d say overall we’ve weathered their losses pretty well, but you can see the extra minutes add up in situations like tonights back to back game.
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Noah Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
@CB14, I understand that. I know the value of Mitchell and Greener. But to me it’s just staying in lanes and being in the right position. These fundamentals are extra important as he’s a bit slower now. I definitely think the consistent back-to-backs and the extra minutes are adding up for him
KC23 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
@Noah, Agreed. This has not been a great year for Scudes so far, but I bet he is there when it counts most towards the end of the season and into the playoffs.
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Skooma Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:42 am
@mrbrett7, I’m sure Scuderi is enough of a professional to know that he just wasn’t up to expectations tonight and should work on that.
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Kings20 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
@mrbrett7, It’s about time somebody did. Too slow, lots of time can clear the puck, not physical and opposition skating around him without any problem. The way he plays lately I wouldn’t give him a new contract. With the return of Green and Mittchel we should be fine.
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freezerflatten Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
@Kings20, remember greene is the 2 minute penalty king. be careful what you wish for.
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Kings20 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
@freezerflatten, I will take Green over Scuderi anytime
Calls out Scuds. I’d say that’s pretty different from last year.
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Kenny44 Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
@Belexes, wasn’t Scuds on the ice for the first 3 GA? (Not sure about #2)
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Ryan Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
@Kenny44, Pretty much every guy on their team except for 2 guys were + and almost every guy on the Kings were -. Pretty good indication of how the game went. You guys think we’ll see a move Thursday as in Toffoli? Nolan/Fraser/Clifford barely had any ice time and Nolan has been pretty unproductive this year.
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shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
@Ryan, Hard to say. I’d like to see Richardson in at some point just for a change in the line up. See if that can shake things up. Nolan’s not too bad. Haven’t seen much from Kinger. Sometimes I don’t notice him on the ice. I’d be interested to see TT but who knows?
Kenny44 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:22 am
@Ryan,
I can’t guess anymore. We’ve heard DS say you need lots of guys for this schedule, based on his experience. So we call up a guy and now have 2 extra forwards, but don’t either of them at the end of a 3 in 4 night stretch. And we start Quick. And the 4th line plays little in a game that got away from us. That line wasn’t playing well, but I guess by getting it close for awhile we bought our tars more TOI
Kings20 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
@Ryan, If you playing with a such talent at center like Fraser i would be surprise if anybody will have good year. Clifford and Nolan have great upside to there game. Give them a center.
KC23 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
@Ryan, Doubt Toffoli or Richardson will play. Sharks are a big team, we certainly don’t want to go smaller against them in their barn with last change.
It’s all Scuds fault….
Trade Scuds…
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CB14 Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
@SLIM, So much for not putting the loss all on 1 guy, right?
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KINGSFANSINCE1969 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:14 am
@SLIM, KINGS ARE THE SAME TEAM THIS YEAR AS THEY WERE LAST YEAR, QUICK IS THE DIFFERENCE. LAST YEAR THEY COULD NOT SCORE, AND THIS YEAR IS THE SAME. BRING IN A NEW GUY FROM THE MINORS THAT CAN SCORE IS GREAT, BUT HE WILL BE PUT ON THE THIRD LINE OR FORTH LINE AND EXPECT TO PLAY DEFENCE. ( MOULSON, PURSELL, BOYLE, LOKI) WHAT WOULD THE KINGS HAVE DONE WITH STAMKOS IN INSTEAD OF DD. JUST SAYING.
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Kings20 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
@SLIM, Please
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Man not having Willie and Greene really hurt. I’m thinking the Kings make a move for a solid stay at home d-man before the deadline. The way they win this year is completely opposite of last year.
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linny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
@Ryan, +1….saw an article (sorry I can’t remember whose) that mentions 5 top 4 stay at home types that we should and/or could get. None were “break the bank” players but if we wait too long the price, personnel wise, goes up. I don’t c any way we go very deep in playoffs, if we make it, without a solid addition. The new guys r good but I don’t think they’ll b far enough along the learning curve in time
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Ryan Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:31 am
@linny, Defense wins in the playoffs and the Kings are definitely lacking in that department this year. A good goaltender is a result of himself. A great goaltender is a result of having great defense around him.
Nitpicking here but what was up with Brown on the 5th goal by Phoenix? He literally just poked at it and let the guy go by him. Definite lack of effort there. Disappointing for him.
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KC23 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
@Ryan, I just don’t see us trading for a d-man. I think it is much more likely we’ll be the one trading away a d-man to avoid losing them to wavers once players start getting healthy.
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You know, over my lifetime, I have hated the nucks the most.
But after the playoffs last year I think I hate the yotes more now.
I am pissed right now. I know we have them the next few we have against them, but man am I mad right now. I really want to see other yotes on the ice hurt.
I am still pissed at doan whining, smith slashing.
Tonight they were just as dirty in various aspects, and I hope we make them pay the next few rounds.
And everyday after that until the end of time!
GO KINGS GO!
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Noah Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
@Mars, I was over it last Spring after Game 5! We won the series, so no need to dwell on it. If anything, it made LA/PHX games more interesting for this year
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shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
@Mars, You know it’s funny, right after the game I was so agitated and feeling so combative when the conversation on the blog died down, I was like hey… There’s no one left to fight with LOL.
Sometimes I’m a tad irritated at Mike Smith’s slashing, but what’s more irritating is that Brown was given a penalty for “embellishment.” That’s the part that gets me and I keep wanting to ask that stupid ref, hey do you want Mike Smith to hit YOU in the back of the knee like that and then see if it’s embellishment? Ah well, that was last year.
According to my favorite Sutterism of all time: Park and ride
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Pie Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
@shiny, I would be more annoyed with brown embellishment call if he hadn’t started doing it again this year. I think Sutter got him to stop last year and I know the Smith one was total BS but its been a bit embarasing this season
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Ryan Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
@Mars, You know, I feel the same way. Don’t like the Coyotes all that much. All I see is them whining and looking out for physical revenge against the Kings. But then I think to opening night and the Kings raising their Stanley Cup Champions banner and Phoenix raising their Pacific Division Champions banner and all the anger goes away.
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Ravens Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
@Ryan, so it’s settled, Yotes enemy #1
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KJ Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
@Mars, Yeah, this was a rough loss, I think I hate losing to the Coyotes more than any other team, but I’m going to try to be mature about it and just say that I really hate Shane Doan’s face.
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Ravens Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
@KJ, you are the definition of maturity as far as I’m concerned with that statement
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KJ Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
@Ravens, You do realize I was being facetious right? Okay, no more joking around on here after a loss.
Duncanz Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:13 am
@KJ, ‘Face’tious …. I get it.
Nice one!
Ravens Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:29 am
@Ravens, yes I do, i thought it was funny
shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
@KJ, I dunno. For me it’s tied with the ‘Nucks. I can handle losing to the Sharks. Sharks will never get to the SCF. The ‘Ucks are kind of a thorn in the side because they get all smug and high and mighty when they score goals and I wanna punch someone in the face. Then Phoenix is just so freaking classless. They have a classless captain, a bunch of goons on their team and their goalie, Smith, is the biggest goon of all. He gets away with slashing people with his stick, he put Penner into the net tonight and practically sat on him (which would’ve been a penalty but he was just being an a-hole because it was funny to him) but knew better not to actually sit on him…
So for me, they’re tied. It sucks losing to anyone but these 2 teams I hate to lose to the most. Ugh. Can someone punch Shane Doan’s smug face in now?
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KJ Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
@shiny,
Yeah, they are pretty neck and neck.
KC23 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
@Mars, I have to agree. My respect for Vancouver actually went up last year. The Vancouver players didn’t really whine that much and Seden did not cry about Brown’s hit. The Cryotoes where just pathitic though.
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Jon, On another note entirely, please tell us what is going on with Willie Mitchell. There has been no updates on his injury whatsoever, and his name has been mysteriously dropped from the Kings roster.
And on top of that, they don’t list him as being on injured reserve on the Staples Center board, just Greene. Something is strange about this. Please enlighten us!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CB14 Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
@tim, Since WM was injured during the lockout, he can’t be put on injured reserve. I believe he’s considered a non roster player.
The doctors gave him a platelet rich plasma injection a few weeks ago to help with the healing process, but he’s just in a wait and see approach.
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k-dog Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
@CB14, Mitchell shall be cryogenically frozen until we make the playoffs….
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shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
@k-dog, You mean until we make the finals again. I don’t have hope for him returning at all this season let alone next season.
@CB14, Someone (I think MM? Or maybe PA?) said WM is officially an “inactive” player which is why his name doesn’t usually show up on the “IR” list when they’re playing. I don’t know if that’s different from non-roster
shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
@tim, Mayor John Hoven did an article last week on WM when he made an appearance at a high school with J-Dubs to teach kids about shooting angles (it was right after the Dallas game). Basically, no news is news. WM says his body doesn’t feel right and he hates it but there’s nothing anyone can really do anything about it at this point in time until his knee gets better.
I’d really like to know about Matt Greene. He was at the Royal Feast on Sunday and last DL spoke of him, he said he was “on schedule” in terms of getting back. Any idea what that means? Does that mean we can get Greener back before the season is over? Do you know when he had his surgery? Hasn’t it been at least a month already? Is there any way you can find out? I know with this compressed schedule the games and stuff are taking precedent but I’d love to know. At least it would give me hope…
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Ryan Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
@shiny, Greene’s original diagnosis was three months I believe which would put him on track to return at the end of the season. But his injury is his back which is what Quick had and would likely keep him out much longer. Quick still doesn’t look like he did last year which is a result of the back (I’m guessing). He says it isn’t but back injuries take a lot longer to heal than other injuries. Usually surgery on back results in a full year of recovery.
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shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
@Ryan, Ugh, that doesn’t sound promising. I thought the original prognosis after surgery was 6 weeks (and hasn’t it been just about 6 weeks now?) but they may have been a sort of restriction for him not to do certain things. I hope he can come back before the season officially ends in 4 weeks but there’s not a whole lot of time if he’s to make it back into the lineup at all. And even if he was medically cleared tomorrow I’m not sure if Sutter would put him in anyways without getting several practices in
TK Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 5:57 am
@Ryan, That ranges from an oversimplification to an out and out lie. Yes, Greene and Quick both had back injuries. However, Quick had an inflammed cyst which he played through at the end of last season and then had minor surgery. Greene, does not have a cyst, instead a herniated disc. Then there is the obvious point of the positions that they play are so vastly different and that Greene is a hit-machine so a herniated disc has more impact on him than even another skater like say Carts. I though Quick looked like his old-self on Monday against Calgary. Too often the rest of the team has had lapses this year and put our goalies in positions where they have to stop 2on1s, 3on1s, and backside one-timers. Not to say the Jonathans have been without fault but both Quick and Bernier are playing much better than their SV%s.
A note to Lombardi and Sutter. Why did you bring up Toffoli if all the kid does is sit. Why didn’t you just leave him down in Manchester!!!!
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Gustavo Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
@Jim Martin,
Easy answer.
The team is not in desperate “we need a savior mode”. Bringing Toffoli up is a way to improve the team or prepare for an upcoming trade. No need to rush TT into a game situation immediately after landing in LA. Let him practice more with the team.
DS will find a spot for him in the line up once he decides who he matches best.
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TK Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:05 am
@Gustavo, Also, lets not forget that they thought Richards might miss these last two games. Besides, at this point in his development Toffoli is probably getting more out of practicing with the NHL club and traveling for a week than just destroying everything in sight in the AHL. Having him on the ice last night and scoring 5 goals would have been the first choice, but realistically we needed more size to take on PHX so he sat. Perhaps he plays against San Jose, perhaps they send him back down to MAnchester first. Either way I think a week in the NHL in the press box will do more for his development than a week toying with every other team in the AHL. That being said if he is still in the press box after a week or two then we can get indignant. Until then I think DL has done enough to earn the benefit of the doubt.
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Kings x Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:09 am
@Jim Martin, 2nd guess the cup bringers. You are truly an educated man
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KC23 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
@Jim Martin, As has been mentioned before … to get him acclimated to the team’s every day routines should he be needed. Last thing want is to need him in the playoffs and he hasn’t been with the team at all, ever during the regular season.
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freezerflatten Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
@Jim Martin, other teams bring players up and boom, their in the lineup. we bring players up,and they sit.
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We just couldn’t put the stuffing into the Turkey!
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Belexes Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:07 am
@k-dog,
Ahh, Miss Turkey…I bet she could sort out this whole D problem.
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Jon, where you at all tempted to ask about his gaolie decision? just a little?
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I missed the game, so I missed the loss. However, why was Quick starting, since he played on Monday? Apologies if this was discussed in earlier posts.
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CB14 Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
@Steve W, There was never anything said from Sutter as to his reasoning behind starting Quick again.
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shiny Reply:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
@CB14, And I don’t think he ever will give up his secrets
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Skooma Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:47 am
@CB14, The reasoning is simple enough: He’s Jonathan Quick.
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KC23 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
@Steve W, My guess is he thought Quick might be able to steal a game for us and he did keep us in the game longer than we deserved to be in it. I wouldn’t of done it though, I thought it was a bad decission even before the game.
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Yes we played the night before back to back like all teams do and Yes we may have been tired. That sure was an effective nap Sutter had them take in the 2nd intermission break because they came out like a different team in the 3rd! To little to late.
Pathetic effort overall. We have got to bring the urgency and intensity from the drop of the first puck to the sound of the last horn.
What is the point in having two good goalies if you don’t play them both in back to back games when the team is “not fresh”?????? I use the word “good” because Quick sure ain’t playing great. The guy is not coming up with the big saves at all when we really need them. We don’t have the iron curtain defense of last year keeping the puck away from him 99.999% of the time.
Man I hate losing any game, but when we don’t put out 100% effort, urgency and intensity it really suck extra big time!!!
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wobsse6 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:53 am
@King Cobra, You knew there was a good possiblity of the Kings being flat last night in back to back, and quick’s game has been improving lately. If Bernier plays, probably still lose with the way we played. But if Bernier played, now Thursday you would go with a rested quick who play is on a up trend…because quick played last night it is now a step back in his progress (and another hit to his save %, right?).
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WRT to the injured defensemen, it’s funny that when Marty was out, so many people on the blog were wondering when he’d come back and were saying “Come baaaaaaack” (me included). But then he came back and sucked and we’re all like, get rid of Marty! LOL I love this blog
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:14 am
@shiny, Yeah…it’s pretty much the same with the goaltending, the offense, the defense, the coaching, the power play, the penalty kill. It’s unbeatable one game, then sucks the next…and it’s always one guy’s fault from someone’s perspective.
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OK, guys. No Phil or Dunx so I’m off to bed. I shall be back to bitch tomorrow morning. Night all!
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I just can’t stand watching the Ducks have success! Ugh
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DS: “Yea and you know how Quick lets in more rebounds than Kim Kardashian. We wouldn’t be surprised if Quick is pregnant with Kanye Wests baby and that he’s eating for two and that’s why he is so slow.”
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:15 am
@MmmmYummy, I’m still trying to figure out why anyone would write such a thing.
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KC23 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, trolling is my guess
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TK Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:54 am
@MmmmYummy, Wow that was stupid! And on so many levels, too. You must be one of these new bandwagoner fans if you think Quick lets in a lot of rebounds. Google: Jason LaBarbera and you will see a goalie give up rebounds! It does seem though that whenever we play PHX, Quick gives up at least one rebound goal and I catch myself thinking LaBarbera is in net.
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This guy has been playing great lately…..the one to your right
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It’s amazing how quickly a situation can change. Kinda like pitching depth in baseball. Take out Mitchell, Greene, Martinez for a stretch. Doughty with 0 goals and looked a little lost to start the season. Muzzin and Ellerby are lost in the defensive end and are resorting to rimming the puck too often. Scuderi hasn’t played well this season and I contend he’s got the weakest slapshot in the league. The only real bright spot this season on D is Voynov, then maybe Muzzin’s power play effectiveness and lucky goals.
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Oh, and King needs to come out of the lineup. Constantly behind the play, losing puck battles, doesn’t finish his checks. Like him as a person and was clutch last year in the playoffs but he’s not contributing much to the team right now and the same can be said of Ellerby. I’d rather have Martinez and Drewiske in.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:17 am
@He Shoots He Scores, King really hasn’t been very impressive this season. I’d agree. If anything, maybe he should sit for a couple. Brownie needs to lay some hits, too.
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They could have saved a lot of time and gotten in some great practice time if they hadn’t gotten on the plane to Phoenix. There wasn’t any point in getting on the plane. They weren’t prepared.
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I agree about the play, but to only call him out isn’t right, there was plenty of blame to go around tonight
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RyyanK Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:17 am
@vinny, maybe so, but Scuderi was a -3, on the ice for both PP goals and had the least amount of ice time of all King’s defensemen. Those are bad numbers, especially from the guy who is the veteran on the back end.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:19 am
@vinny, It seems with Sutter, everyone eventually gets his turn in the barrel. it is what it is, and he calls it like he sees it.
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This is not instigating. Nothing to see here, keep moving. just two captains of real Canadian hockey teams having a frank exchange of ideas.
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Once again, don’t take any responsibility on your own shoulders, Mr. Sutter. Just run down one of your better players in the press. To use the words of our exalted leader, friggin’ Sutter really screwed up by continuing to give the 4th line a regular shift after we fell behind 4-0 in the second period. WE NEEDED GOALS, NOT ENERGY. Our first three lines playing at half speed have a better chance of scoring than one that scored 9 goals in 180 man games last year. The time is coming when he is going to wear out his welcome here as he did in Calgary. I hope he doesn’t decimate this team by destroying morale as he did up there, leaving the team a shadow of what it once was. And if you don’t believe that, check the Calgary press, most of whom were willing to drive him to the airport or back to his farm.
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Forum67 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:37 am
@Russ Dynda,
I am not a fan of calling out players publicly, especially veteran players like Scuds. I’m not even sure what the purpose is supposed to be other than potentially alienating Scuds so that he decides to ply his trade elsewhere when his contract expires.
As to his time in Calgary, things went sour for him in Calgary in his role as GM, not coach. I was not a fan of Sutter’s when he was in San Jose or Calgary. And I was not happy when I found out he was coming here. And I am definitely not a fan of him calling out players publicly. But at the end of the day he is the only coach in King’s history to coach them to the Cup. And there is little doubt in my mind that no Sutter last season and we’d be in the midst of our 46th year without a Cup. So though I don’t always agree with him (like not starting Bernier in a back to back situation), I think he’s earned at a minimum the loyalty of King’s fans for this foreshortened season.
As to wearing out his welcome, all coaches do at some point. Just ask Lindy Ruff.
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Russ Dynda Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
@Forum67, You make reasonable points here. Yes, Sutter was ousted as GM in Calgary. However, I maintain it was the same attitude he showed in that position that drives his coaching right now. That is arguable, of course, but his calling out players publicly seems to reflect the sttitude that alienated folks in Calgary where his last year he was alienated from his own brother whom he hired as coach. I’m loyal to the team–I like the roster and think it has great prospects if handled well–but I don’t want to see a hardheaded coach screwing it up. Case in point is Scuderi, our only true, gifted stay-at-home defenseman now tha Greene and Mitchell are injured. I’m afraid that he will indeed move on after this year. What irks me about the Kings/Sutter situation is that he has received a 4 yr. extention on his contract based on a 17 game miracle run last year. Now the organization is committed to him for at least a few years no matter how he performs.
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Forum67 Reply:
March 14th, 2013 at 1:43 am
@Russ Dynda,
Trust me, if for some reason the Kings wanted to jettison Sutter before his four years are up they’d just buy out his remaining years. But given his past positive history with Dean Lombardi, short of the team totally tuning him out or the Kings missing the playoffs three seasons in a row’ he’ll probably be here at least another four years.
My issues with Sutter notwithstanding, I will not throw him under the bus this season pretty much no matter what. And I strongly suspect if we make and go deep in the playoffs (or heaven forbid, repeat as Stanley Cup champions) you won’t be prone to throwing him under the bus either.
And by the way, had Sutter not turned the Kings around after taking over for Terry Murray last season the Kings wouldn’t have even made it to the playoffs for their miracle run to the Cup.
fsd1 Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:48 am
@Russ Dynda, yawn
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:25 am
@Russ Dynda,
The fact that you only post when you have a gripe about Sutter says it all. You won’t rejoice when we experience success, yet you’ll raise your head from the murky lagoon, that is you life, when things are crap. You are the epitome of a fair weather fan. Spineless and weak!
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TK Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
@kissmyblarneystones, No fair-weather fans rejoice in victory and are absent in defeat, look to the Blackhawks attendance numbers for an example. What Russ is, is a schadenfreude-fan; he revels in our occasional failures.
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Russ Dynda Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
@TK, Hmmm, now I’m being psychologically analyzed. If you will read what I posted above you will see that I took exception to Sutter’s badmouthing Scuderi in the media. That’s not revelling in the team’s failure. It’s standing up for the players, which I’ve done here more than most, even when we lose. I think if you intend to put up a shingle here and make accurate psychological diagnoses, you need to go back to school.
Russ Dynda Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
@kissmyblarneystones, It seems that all you know how to do is to get personal and insult people. I won’t bother trying to characterize that. It speaks for itself.
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
@Russ Dynda,
Ya, whatever.
Those criticisms of Sutter were about his GM skills and decisions. He took (as coach, not coach/GM) a very pedestrian team to game 7 of the SC Finals. The dislike came after he was named general manager. For the most part, his coaching skills were beyond reproach.
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JON ROSEN, Have you looked into the installation of an edit button? Paul Armbruster has a great thing going on his website. It gives you a 5 minute window in which to proofread/ edit and change/ request deletion of your comments. The edit option is freaking magical.
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how come jon didnt ask him about putting quick in 4 games in a row??? or even pulled him after 3 goals????
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Jon
Have you asked Sutter if he still thinks this is a 3-2 league?
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To me it was more about Kopi’s play on that PK, and not Scuderi. Kopi drifted out too high, and that led to Scuderi being isolated against Boedker. I show the whole sequence in photos here, see what you think.
http://holdthepoint.com/2013/03/13/pups-run-amok-snarl-kings-kings-v-coyotes-3-12-2013/
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I love that the Kings aren’t in the basement in scoring this season but I’m disappointed about how much our D has slipped. Can’t repeat without the great play in our own end.
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Scuderi has been horrible all year…..don’t know why people think he has been anything else but garbage. He reaches with the stick way too much when he should be putting the body to someone. Sticks in passing lanes and poking pucks away when you can are great, but not when you can tie a guy up or body someone off the puck.Standing still and reaching is the worst thing a defenseman can do, and scuderi has that down to a science.I feel bad for Quick when a guy can skate right down the middle and get off a clear shot.Quick has not been as sharp as last year, but the defense is much worse……we let the punchless Cryotes get five goals!
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