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Just got home from work and heard about the Toffoli call up. I had some questions:
1. Can he play goalie?
2. If so does this mean that a Bernier trade is imminent?
3. Does he have a sister named Toffee?
4. If he is a goal scorer, should we trade Carter?
5. If he doesn’t work out, can we return him for Walmart dollars or straight up cash refund?
6. If you think any of these questions are serious, can I recommend a good doctor for you?
It will be very interesting to see how effective Toffoli will be and how DS utilizes him, especially when the team is actually playing very well.
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
@DesertKing,
Toffoli knows how to work on tractors..
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DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
@jess,
…and the Sun comes out enlightening the world
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HockeyNerd Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
@DesertKing,
1. NO.
2. Maybe, maybe not.
3. No, thank God. We have enough sister and girlfriend jokes on this blog already.
4. No. But believe me if Carter misses a wide open net and Toffoli gets a hat trick, they will suggest that here.
5. You are mixing our sponsors up. Our sponsor is Staples, not Wal Mart and the slogan is “that was easy”, not “that was cheap”.
6. No need. I am already in therapy to work on not taking everybody so seriously.
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
@HockeyNerd,
Keep up the therapy!
I’m behind it 100&
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HockeyNerd Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
@jess, That’s “%”.
Oops, there I go taking everyone seriously again…..
DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
@HockeyNerd,
Seriously?
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
@HockeyNerd,
I meant to say 100 & THEN some
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Ok..we can’t have a post with no comments…i going out on a limb here…king sits…..toffoli plays tomorrow
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DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
@neil,
Maybe Nolan? I am just not sure what DS can do. Everyone says that Toffoli is a top 6 type forward and I don’t see DS sitting Brown, JW, Carter or Penner.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
@neil, Let me throw my opinion hat in the ring here, cuz why not? Clearly I’m a GM and a coach and a scout… Because he was *just* called up, I don’t see him playing tomorrow. If necessary (due to IR), I see Richardson taking someone’s place in a pinch – especially because he’s so versatile as a forward. DS will *probably* want to see what Toffoli is like in practice before he introduces him to an NHL game. I mean, it seems a little silly and counterproductive to just throw a rookie kid out there and say, “sink or swim, buddy!”
There’s a reason that Campbell never got to play in an NHL game even though there were times he probably would’ve been better than any of the guys we had defending our blueline.
So that’s my opinion. Let the bashing begin.
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Neil Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
@shiny, No bashing here…good points…I just dont see him sitting…why bring him up to sit when he could be playing in a playoff race in Manchester.I know all the reasons that have been given…and some that have been given many times..I just thought I would go with my gut feeling and make a prediction…Only the staff knows why and until we hear its all speculation…but with that said..Iam going with King sitting and Toffili playing…Be a good time for a poll…Does he play tomorrow or not?? If he plays…for whom???
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
@Neil, Don’t see him playing tomorrow. Earliest Tuesday. Maybe in for… Nolan? (Though he had a goal last game or an assist or something…) I don’t know. It hurts to think about it…
HockeyNerd Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
@shiny, I think he will play in a top 6 right away IF Richards cannot go. And why not? He has to play his first NHL game sometime. If Richards is OK, then I think he sits a couple of games — but not very long. You cannot directly compare Campbell with Toffoli. Campbell was an emergency call-up, nothing more. Toffoli was brought up because DL thinks he is ready. He ain’t gonna sit long. I’d be fine with sitting King or even Penner.
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neil Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
@HockeyNerd, penner??? Penner is playing great
Always liked Kelly. He did have the best back stroke in the crease out of any goalie the Kings ever had, but all that swimming almost paid off in 93′. Would have given anything to see him win it back then.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
@Dominick, He may have the best backstroke, but I think JQ is trying to earn the title of best breast stroke – just kidding!
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Reminder. LA Sports Awards 2012 on prime ticket from 9:30 PM.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
@goldielocks, Oh yeah, thanks. What channel?
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goldielocks Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
@shiny,
Fox Sports Prime Ticket.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
@goldielocks, Right, you said that. Thanks… I’m going to hide in shame now LOL
Neil Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
@goldielocks, needed a spoiler alert a few days ago so I wouldnt know who won….I can also pretend that I dont know and keep predicting the winner in front of the fam. !!! Many years ago I went to the grammy awards and after it ended my friend and I went to a bar that was showing the telecast on tape delay..Well since I already knew the winners i threw out the winning names in advance…every at the bar thought that i was a genius!!!
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Duncanz Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
King for a day, @Neiling!
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So we got a VV…DD…DD2…
Now we have TT….
Sure makes it easier to post stuff….
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
@SLIM, Don’t forget we have a DP and a DB. At least we still have Muzz(le/illa) and Kopi and Carts and Scuds so it’s not all about initials
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
@SLIM,
excellent observation..
And…
-Maybe a decent omen???
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HockeyNerd Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
@SLIM, And Thank God we got Mike Richards. Otherwise we would have had a BS instead…..
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
@HockeyNerd, Don’t we already have BS? Oh you mean the guy…
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OT: Whoa, what is up with the Wings? Why couldn’t they suck this hardcore when we played them? And where the heck is this Blue Jackets team coming from?? They’re clawing their way out of the cellar, darn it!
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
@shiny,
The playoff teams get hot late..
Early bloomers go down in flames.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
@jess, True true. And some teams just struggle in the regular season (like the Kings). Avs just won the game vs. the Sharks so yay for that… Let’s hope this “hot streak” for late bloomers becomes contagious for the Kings
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
@shiny,
I would say Scottie Bowman’s model is the best one. Coast as much as possible through the reg. season and loiter in the 3-rd – 6th seed spot, then turn up the juice when it counts.
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
@jess, Hmm I like it. Right now Kings are in 5th (somehow even with getting 0 points in their last 3 games they’re still ahead of us…) so if they can sustain a pace that keeps them there, we’ll be good
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
@shiny, Sorry, that was supposed to say… *Red Wings are ahead of us* … Bad night for me
Vancouver now tied with Wild for top spot. Time to watch Vancouver slide down the standings.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
@KC23, It’ll be sweet justice to see them fall past the Kings
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
@KC23, Whoooooops, I posted too soon. Vancouver is now in SIXTH place while Kings sit in FIFTH with 2 more games won and a game in hand over Vancouver.
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Just watching the replay of last night’s game. Lewis must be wearing Carter’s jock or eating his food, because Lewis’ shot is 100% improved and looking more like Carter’s.
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
@DesertKing,
I would also like to see DD follow his example and lose the big roof ticklers.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
@jess, Yes that mile high wind up shot is enough to make everyone wince… Except this season he’s not shooting as much (fine by me if he’s better on the blueline)
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
@shiny,
Well I’m a huge fan of D pinching in and taking offensive opportunities (it does seem to be a major part of Sutter’s system). I just think DD would get a few more in with a more subtle release or with some decent one-timers.
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
@shiny, He needs to take a lesson from VV on how to be in the right place to get those one timers. Because seriously, no one on the team one-times as beautifully as he does. And it’s fairly accurate, too
DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
@jess,
He did that again last night. When takes that big back swing, it looks like Moses raising his satff and then the sea of players parts and the goalie gets a clear view of the incoming shot.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
@DesertKing, I thought he usually tries to pass off that big ol’ windup. But I like the Moses analogy
jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
@DesertKing,
Exactly -opposing team: “Thanks for the warning”
DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
@shiny
We were right behind and in line with DD and the goal on that wind up and it was amazing to see all of the Flames players get out of the way and move out the Kings players. Never seen that before from ice level. It was pretty cool to experience it.
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
@DesertKing, Lucky you! I wish I could have seats that good. But they’re too expensive
DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
@shiny
We have been fortunate for the last 4 years, but no seats next year. My son starts college and the seats have to go. At least there is always StubHub and @puck73
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
@DesertKing, Ahh yeah. Puck was nice enough to invite me to a suite event. Oh well. At least there’s the rest of this season
KC23 Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
@DesertKing, Lets not forget one huge difference with Lewis this year compared to last. He was playing RW and center last year. This year when moved to try LW suddenly Lewis looks like a different player.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
@KC23, Oh so then we really need a RW to come up, right? Cuz all our current RW seem to be moving to LW LOL
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KC23 Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
@shiny, Actually, that is exactly correct.
Speaking of DD, his Bridgestone commercial just aired on NHL Network. That’s weird. I haven’t seen it in like a year
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
@shiny, Seems like they dug it out again a few weeks ago…maybe when the season started again, I don’t know for sure, but yeah, I’ve seen it about three times.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Interesting. It makes me laugh because he’s got that long hair, slicked back and the giant shoulder pads… And I think of Sutter’s quote about the commercial (Sutter mentioned his tractor needed new tires)
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Mars Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
@shiny, It’s a sign he is due to go on a scoring streak!
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Some stats on newcomer Tyler Toffoli (all courtesy of Mayor John Hoven):
- He loves to tan in LA, more on that in a minute (see radio link)
- Has 48 points in 55 AHL games this season (28G, 20A)
- Overall, sits second in the AHL with 28 goals in 55 games, just two goals behind Tyler Johnson of the Syracuse Crunch (who has played 59 games)
- Tied with Edmonton prospect Justin Schultz (Oklahoma City) for the rookie scoring lead – each have 48 points, but Toffoli leads in goals, 28 to 18
- Scored his last game played, an overtime win on Friday – see highlights and notes here
- In his last 10 games with the Monarchs he’s recored 13 points, seven goals and six assists
- Has a plus-20 rating this season
- Represented Manchester in the 2013 AHL All Star Game
- Was a two-time 50 goal scorer in the OHL, including leading all of junior hockey with 57 goals two years ago
- Originally selected by the Kings in the second round of the 2010 NHL Draft, held in Los Angeles
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Follow up: Mayor John Hoven thinks this is health related to Richards as Toffoli was due to play in a game today for Manch but was pulled 2 hours before the game. He also think that Richards will play if he’s allowed.
Sorry this is all a post late, I’m just now going through my twitter feed from 9 hours ago when they posted all this info
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Be funny if we found out Toffoli’s flight and get a bunch of people there with signs greeting him. Now that would be funny.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
@KC23, It’d be really funny if he likely hadn’t landed a few hours ago LOL
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
@KC23, OK, next time someone gets called up, I want you to lead point on the signs and distribution of information so we can all gather at the airport.
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KC23 Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
@shiny, backs away slowly from the blog
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
@KC23, I thought I could count on you, KC! :’(
Watched last nights game in Canada where Hrudey was a color commentator for Hockey Night in Canada. It’s sad to say Hrudey spent about 92% of the game trashing the Kings / giving them no credit what so ever in the beat down they just handed the Flames. So disappointed we honored this guy….. as a child he was my favorite goalie of all time but as time progressed along and my hockey knowledge / understanding of the game got bigger I came to the realization that the dude was nothing special at all. Instead of giving this guy his due, we should be having Legends Night for the likes of Rob Blake, Marty McSorley, Butch Goring, Bernie Nicholls, Charlie Simmer (just to name a few). Those Kings teams of the late 80′s – early 90′s were pretty strong all over the place but our weak point was our goaltending. I know things should always be wine and roses when it comes to honoring some of the guys who gave their all in the past but lets not avoid being truthful to one another when it comes to be reality and facts.
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BACK!
Freaking Ducks won. Guess that’s good for the points displacement.
Freaking Sharts took it to OT, but luckily they lost, SICK of the 3 pointers.
Glad the casucks lost too. Not a WIld fan but ANTI CaSuck.
Oils held tight to fend of the Hawks.
Kunitz tied up goals with Carts.
JMFJ got the 3rd star.
Simmonds kicked Webers kiester. http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/116703
What here have I missed in the last 5 hours?
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
@Mars,
Uh, what you’ve missed is that Toffoli is being called up for the Kings.
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Mars Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
@jess, I was here for that, I bolted around 4 or 5.
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
@Mars, -was j/k
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
@Mars, Nothing really. Just the usual between game quietness on the blog
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Mars Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
@shiny, Anyone get cornfielded? Poorman come back?
Any fun debate about the Johnathan’s?
Duncanz stir the pot?
Do I need to go put on my boots?
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
@Mars, Sadly, no to all but I think some commenters on here are eyeing me for the cornfield. Perhaps I should be quiet! LOL
Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
@Mars, You should put your boots on, if it will make you feel tougher.
DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:27 pm
@Mars,
Take 2 Ex-Lax and call us in the morning.
Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
@Mars, I called that OT game with the AVS, unfortunately, I was hoping to jinx it. Simmonds destroyed Weber, must be a backlash from that Philly game vs Boston.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
@Mikey J., Do they only have thugs in Philly? Jeez, that hit was ugly and the fight was even uglier
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
@shiny, That was a very dirty play, if you watched the Philly v Boston on Saturday though you can imagine the Flyers got called out in the locker room. Unfortunate hit though indeed, frustration.
Mars Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
@shiny, I dont think the hit was that dirty, 63 turned to get away from it while sims was in motion to hit, didnt execute the juke in time.
Cant blame Webber for wanting to fight, but Simms knew someone was coming.
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
@Mars, I didn’t think it was dirty either, just ugly. Simms always seems like he’s ready to fight – and it’s ALWAYS him. I guess you could argue that he saw Weber coming and was ready but still. Seems dumb to me.
some thoughts looking at the standings
you know i think the sharks are gonna miss the playoffs …. just a hunch ………… who knows
and i think nashville may actually be the team to win the stanley cup ………. just because they are so unsexy ………… but those buggers know how to play defense as we have witnessed …………. obviously , i hope i am wrong about this
by the way , ducks are 15 over …. hawks 19 … maybe ducks will end up number 1 seed ….. i dont think anybody has even really thought of that
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jess Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
@phil sykes,
I actually agree with you.
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KC23 Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
@phil sykes, I agree about the Sharks. There terrible.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
@KC23, Also agree about the Sharks. Obviously I hope that Nashville doesn’t make it to the SCF… I’m rooting for the Ducks!
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Duncanz Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
@shinny, You never fail to amuse, @shinn!
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
@Dunkz, right back at ya!
phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
@shiny, @duncanz … i think he just meant hes rooting for the ducks to beat out the hawks .. not that hes an actual ducks fan ……… but since we cant catch those two teams , he rather see the ducks get first seed because he dosent like the hawks and is sick of them ………… if u already knew this duncanz … then my bad for trying to disypher shinnys code to yoda himself
there will be many more 3 pointers.
get used to it.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
@jess, Yes I know but they’re so irritating and they’re not a true reflection of the actual win/loss streak. Gah, stupid points parody!
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
@shiny, thats parity …… somebody once corrected me on this so im paying it forward … yea we are stupid shinny …. hehe ……………… not song parody
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
@phil sykes, Sadly, I know it’s parity
but someone (I think it was actually on the NHL website) posted it as parody. I do think that the points system makes a parody of the league. Don’t think that makes sense. I’m losing my mind. Are you ready to banish me to the cornfield yet? Is there coming back from the cornfield?
phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
@phil sykes, lol … no worries .. okay only im stupid then because i thought it was spelled parody for the longest time
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
@phil sykes, Nah, when it first came out I was like, parody what? LOL then it took a while before I was like oh parody, parity… Right…
Anyone else having difficulties getting the Insider blog via Google?
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
@DesertKing, Mmmm nope. I’m using Google Chrome as my browser and I’m fine. Unless that’s not what you’re asking. If you’re asking something else entirely, disregard my response.
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DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
@shiny,
My computer keeps telling me that Internet Explorer can’t find the Insider website. Freaking computers!
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
@DesertKing, How irritating. What are you using then to log on?
DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
@shiny
Android phone. Oh well, going to bed so hopefully Al Gore will fix the internet while I’m sleeping.
Great Kings moment, 1990 thrashing of the defending SC champs Calgary Flames in game 4 of the 1st round. Bob Miller at his finest.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
@Mikey J., 12-4 kings ….. was at the game in disbelief ………….. and knowing the kings history … i was actually still worried when it was 9-4 at the end of 2 periods … lol i always worry with my team …. hehe …. no matter what
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For all you JMFJ lovers and supporters, here is something that you might get a kick out of. And no, I don’t know if it’s real.
Jack Johnson’s game-by-game Corsi thru 26 games #CBJ https://twitter.com/zekebud/status/310967977916895234/photo/1
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i love this guy michael peterson on the sundance channel the staircase
yes , u are going to be convicted …. and no , there is no shocking reversal of this on tomorrow nights finale …… they just want ratings ….. i mean i could easily look it up to see hes still in jail – but i dont have to . its so obvious you did it . and no judge is going to let u out after a jury convicted you …….
if it wasnt obvious …. youd have a fighting chance maybe ……….. but its so obvious u killed her ………. and to his family , except the one daughter who has split from the rest of the family because she knows he did it – so to the family … boy are u dumb and in denial ……………….. heres why …………. first of …. its easy to tell a liar …. they stick out like a sore thumb ……. clemmons , bonds – liars …. oj simpson – liar …. that other peterson guy (coincidense) that killed his wife lacy – liar ….. you can spot them a mile away ……………………………… so family you are dumb as hell
and the second and most important reason you dumb family members …………………. the chances of one human being … being first on the scene to discover somebody has fallen down the stairs and killed themselves in a bloody blood spatterring mess is gotta be at least a million to one ……… not just a dead body at the bottom of stairs with no blood because of head trauma – but a bloody mess …. million to one ……………………………… but this guy michael peterson had the exact same thing happen to another girlfriend years before in germany ….. same exact thing …. bloody mess ….. bottom of the stairs and he was the last known person to be in her company ……………………………………………….. lol lol lol …. twice in one lifetime ? …….. the odds are incalcuable ………… even worse than dna match
like deniro said in casino to joe bob briggs ………….. “after those reels hit for the second time in 20 minutes , u didnt realize u were being set up ? …… its an impossiblity , it would not happen , it can not happen”
boy is his family dumb for supporting the guy who killed their mother brutally …. really dumb people in denial ………. although the one girl with the chopped off hair bangs is so cute to me ….. but shes dumb as a board , obviously
the french filmmakers should be ashamed because they shade the documentary as if he is being railroaded ……. use some common sense , u idiots
…….. anyways ….. back to kings talk
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
@phil sykes, So… how ’bout them Dodgers?
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
@phil sykes, Nice Bill.
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GKG!
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Neil Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 8:55 am
@Michael J., are you related to Gail?? !!!!
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Does anyone else pity Hedburg in NJ? I kinda do. He tries so hard but yet he’s so bad…
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
@shiny, i actually think hes pretty good , especially for an older guy
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
@phil sykes, He lets in so many soft goals… It seems that all you have to do is shoot at him and the puck goes in. I know he’s not Marty (who is still unbelievable at 40 something) but still… Maybe I don’t see enough of his game to be so harsh
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
@shiny, ive actually been quite impressed with him the last 5 years or so , but maybe hes having a bad year ……. i havent seen any of their games this year ………. and maybe age is finally doing him in ….. who knows
phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
@shiny, like the first part of his career – yea , i thought he was pretty bad – and the kings would always beat him when they played ………… but i noticed like the last 5 years or so …. he got pretty darn good ….. but who knows ………. hes not worth talking about anyways i guess
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
@phil sykes, caught a few of the NJ games this season (what ever NHLN shows) and I just feel bad because he’s struggling so hard but with Marty out due to an injury, he’s really their best bet. He’s let in more than a few soft goals (and ok, what goalie hasn’t?) but like I said, it just seems that if you shoot at him, it’ll likely end up in the back of the net. Course that’s with a relatively small sample size…
With both goalies capable of winning games, the schedule ahead, looks all the more doable.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
@Mikey J., bernier just looks way more in postion , and shockingly , im starting to like him better
except on breakaways and shootouts , of course
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
@phil sykes, Both goalies are better in certain situations. I like them 50/50 right now
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
@Mikey J., I was at Sutter’s table today and someone asked him if Quick is OK, if his back is bothering him. Sutter was like, “nah” and indicated that it was more of Quick regaining his confidence. He didn’t come out and say it, but that was the implication (which is basically what he’s been saying in his pressers)
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
@shiny, oh yea …. quicks back is fine … this is the same ole quick … his style is just getting more exposed with a more porious defense in front of him
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
@phil sykes, Well it’s hard to know if his back truly is bothering him or not. The indication that I got from Sutter was that Quickie is fully healed physically, but as many bloggers on here indicated, he may not fully trust his own abilities. So Sutter is going to start playing him more so that Quick will regain his confidence, which is cool (in that, he’s not “punishing” his goalie, he’s trying to lift him up and give him more confidence)
Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
@phil sykes, That would be Sutter.
Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
@shiny, He looked good last night. In a game that could have potentially have been a crazy game after the 1st period, he locked it down. Very important going forward. Awesome, that you were at the dinner with the team.
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
@Mikey J., I will never forget what a kind man he really is. I can see what the team sees in him. He is a genuinely nice person with an old school work ethic and he genuinely cares about each man on that team. I hope they do this Royal Feast again.
phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
@Mikey J., this is the same quick . same style and everything . just a worse defense . and hes losing confidense because of it . nothing to do with his back
Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
@Mikey J., I remember when the Kings first got him a lot of the bloggers on here were like WTF? I thought of it as like getting hockey royalty and he sure hasn’t disappointed.
phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
@Mikey J., who .. sutter or quick
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
@Mikey J., He’s definitely proved he’s more than capable of being a superb goalie. I hate ECB so much because Quickie got ROBBED of the Vezina (not that it matters to him; none of these awards matter to any of these guys) who carried his freaking team to the playoffs and held them in when things looked grim for the Kings
phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
@Mikey J., oh nevermind … yur talking about sutter
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
@phil sykes, whoops, I thought he was talking about Quicker, too. Ok, that’s it for me tonight. Enough before I get banished to the cornfield for stupidity (I walk away hanging my head in shame… lol)
i really love how we are in an excellent tiebreaker scenerio since we havent played many overtime games ……………… its nice to know , that in most cases , we only have to tie a team in points to beat them out … this can change , if we all of a sudden play a rash of overtime games …. but so far , so great
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
@phil sykes, It’s kind of the opposite of 2010 when we were the shoot out Kings.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
@Mikey J., yes . it really makees me all warm and fuzzy inside to know we have this trump card to play
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
@phil sykes, Yeah, let somebody else sweat it out at the end of the regular season.
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
@phil sykes, If it comes down to a tie, is it the team with the most wins that ends up in the playoffs?
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
@shiny, yes … non shootout wins
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shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
@phil sykes, Oh right. You may have said that… But woot for tying the franchise record of 17 straight games w/ no shootout
shiny Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
@phil sykes, I meant tie. I’m losing it (as mentioned several times earlier)
I think I’m dizzy now.
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well mikey we are the only 2 left
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
@phil sykes, Until somebody else shows up, tomorrow should be interesting.
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I’m still here, been staring at stats and upcoming games.
Watched some highlights and fights.
Stupid time change, I’m not tired yet.
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
@Mars, Is Simmonds going to be under any scrutiny for that hit?
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Mars Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
@Mikey J., I don’t think so. There wasn’t a call, Ennis turned at the last moment, and Simms was hitting low, even with Ennis turning and ducked/bent down a bit Simms still hit below the head, didn’t lunge/leave his feet. I don’t think he was going for boarding/cross check, just an unfortunate play. Part of the game.
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:03 am
@Mars, That’s good, Wayne doesn’t seem like that type of player. He sure did throw a couple wicked rights at Weber.
i wish we could get rhegher out of buffalo …. put muzzin back with martinez
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phil sykes Reply:
March 10th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
@phil sykes, in the 5 , 6 pairing . ………………
scuds doughty
voynov rhegher (mitchell clone) shoots left
martinez muzzin
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:00 am
@phil sykes, You mean Ellerby.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:00 am
@Mikey J., lol , no i do not
Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:12 am
@phil sykes, Interesting, an x flame too. I don’t know about that.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:14 am
@Mikey J., why . whats wrong with ex flame ……………. thats the main reason …….. sutter loves him ….. hes really good stay at home big guy …. and he knows the western conference players
Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:18 am
@Mikey J., I don’t know, we’ve done so well with the x oilers.
Mars Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:21 am
@Mikey J., I’m in agree-ance with Phil on this one.
Is agreeance a real word? Whatever you get my MF’ing point!
If we made a play like that I think WM would get traded when he gets back.
DS made a comment a while ago about his health and past injuries.
Made me wonder about his future. Maybe I was looking into something not there.
phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:25 am
@Mikey J., lol …… no man , sutters flames were tough …. his teams are always tough … remember when we didnt win in calgary for years and would never score against kipper .. rhegher and sutter were there at that time … hes a good player .. real good … like i said , hes sutter taught
were not talking about oiler forwards like penner who played in different system
Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:47 am
@phil sykes, I’ve got a lot of respect for the Flames. I was rooting for them to win it all the year they beat the Sharks in the semis. I’ve got to tell you though, when the Kings got Stoll, Green, and Smyth I could sense something big was possible. RR is a solid d man, it all depends on who we’re giving up.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:51 am
@Mikey J., well yeah . im talking about giving up only players in the minors or ellerby …………….. obviously , i know they wont except garbage . but like forbert .. or one of our forwards … vey , pearson …… just one …….. not breaking the bank for the guy obviously … dean will work it out if he is so inclined ……. i just hope he is
Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:54 am
@Mikey J., Geez, Greene has been out so long I forgot how to spell his name.
phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:59 am
@Mikey J., greene or mitch come back – how effective could they possible be after not playing for a year and coming off serious injury ……….. im writing them off for this season and would rather just go for a good trade
now that columbus has a faint plus and is gaining confidense … this could be good for us because u know they will be tryin hard to win instead of just rolling over on most nights … this could be good for us …. if they are able to knock off some teams we are battling with – like they have been doing recently …… so hopefully they can keep it up
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phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:10 am
@phil sykes, pulse*
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:16 am
@phil sykes, That’s a good point, I watched the shoot out of their game today, second goal in it was absolutely filthy. Sorry Detroit.
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Mars Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:25 am
@Mikey J., Detroit has been doing not so hot since they banned redbull and vodka at bars.
Cant get their wings.
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:34 am
@Mars, That and probably the greatest d man in recent history retiring. I don’t think anyone will feel sorry for them if they don’t qualify for the playoffs.
phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:41 am
@Mars, thats fine by me mikey ….. detroit , like nashville , have quicks number …………………. plus , eventhough jimmy howard is merely average …….. against the kings he always plays great ………. so dont think detroit would be a good matchup for us with datsuyk and zetterburg who always kill us ……… but who knows …. any team will be tough .. theres nothing separating any of the teams …….. only chicago has proven they are probably a slight notch above right now if they are healthy come playoff time … but of course that sligjht notch can be erased in the first round with a hot goalie and a confident defensive team like nashville , or phoenix
Still trying to figure out whom we will keep next year..
http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=17
Penner – Not sure, tries hard but the cost makes me say no.
Richardson – Doubtful
Clifford – Yes, hope he’s not gonna cost too much.
Lewis – Yes, also hope he wont cost much.
Nolan – Yes, hoping he wont cost much too.
Scuderi Yes I imagine same cost. (3.4)
Voynov Yes – Playing like he is worth a big contract too…
Martinez Hope so, but its a matter of cost and cap.
Ellerby Not sure need more time on this one.
Drewiske hmmm waffling on a yes no on him.
Muzzin Yeah, should be able to keep him cheap.
Bernier I doubt we could keep him, would LOVE to have two splitting duties, just cant see it happening. Plus it will really screw with the cap. Time will tell.
But we still have upcoming trades and the summer to deal with.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:21 am
@Mars, yea . depends if we make any trades …. and how the season goes …….. worry about that in the summer ….. dean will work it all out …. we have plenty of space to manuever
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Mars Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:24 am
@phil sykes, True. DL has a plan, there is time. Our D is doing ok.
I just got spoiled last year. Not used to us taking so many goals.
But our battle back….WOW!
Two years ago could you imagine last season, playoffs and then this year?
Crazy!
its got me playing late night GM Coach.
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Mikey J. Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:30 am
@Mars, Well, that’s why Dean is getting paid. Thanks for pointing out the big picture.
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Mars Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:40 am
@Mikey J., yeah but as fans we are supposed to speculate.
that’s blog 101.
Give every fan a voice.
riiiiiiight?
I am just trying to look into a crystal ball.
Curious.
I am never right.
Never woulda guessed Fras for Smythe
or Ellerby for Loki in a 3 way trade.
MR or Carts either.
Been a wild ass ride.
I never would even think about it in the past, just trying to guess the lineup for after the trade deadline and next season. Mostly cause of the cap change.
Thinking too much I s’pose.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 12:44 am
@Mars, just get rhegher and we can do this again
luc20rules Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 2:05 am
@Mars, I got on the Richards bandwagon in the rumor stage, and was harassed on this site for asking for Carter over Nash. It was more a value evaluation where Carter would have a reasonable price, but Nash was rumored at Kopi, Brown, & Multiple high draft picks. I even went as far as to say Carter would be the most talented player moved at last years deadline. Now I say stay put. Have said it all season no major trade unless Mitchell just comes out and says he will not be ready this year. Then we knock on a couple of doors to see if we can find a stop gap fill(there is no replacing Mitchell), but don’t sell the farm.
KC23 Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 5:35 am
@Mars, I’m guessing we’ll lose DD2, Ellerby, Martinez, Penner and Bernier.
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TK Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 8:40 am
@KC23, What I am trying to predict is who takes over for Bernier; as the answer clearly is not in our organization.
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Alright Phil, if the Kings get Rhegher, kudos to your insight. Till tomorrow then.
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phil sykes Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 1:09 am
@Mikey J., later ……… im just dreaming ….. nothing ever happens the way u want it too
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Don’t look now but the Kings are 10th in the league with goals scored per game average.
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Bet Toffoli is having a heck of a time trying to sleep. Trying to imagine what it would be like to spend pretty much your entire childhood and adult life for the goal of playing in the NHL and to finally be on the eve of the event.
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LA_1968 Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 6:46 am
@KC23,
Good thing for him they do so much excersice. Otherwise it would really be impossible to sleep.
This kid seems pretty special. Then again, Bernier was the AHL goalie of the year and he’s just moving along.
I’m glad Mr. Lombardi likes marinading these guys a good while in the lower levels. TT is pushing the recipe.
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KC23 Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 6:48 am
@LA_1968, DL has a lot of very experienced people looking after these kids. If they think he’s ready there is a good chance the kid is ready.
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LA_1968 Reply:
March 11th, 2013 at 7:19 am
@KC23,
The kid has pushed the ceiling at every level and.didn’t take his time about it either.
All our forwards are fresh cup champs but still if Coach Sutter has someone better he will use them without apology. I love that the .most about him.