The view from Detroit

Detroit Free Press Red Wings coverage

-There are plenty of interesting quotes from the Detroit locker room in Helene St. James’ game story. Both Daniel Cleary and Mike Babcock questioned the officiating, and Babcock offered his explanation of where the breakdown occurred on Anze Kopitar’s game-winner. Henrik Zetterberg said of Pavel Datsyuk’s faceoff violation, in which he allegedly “swiped” the puck behind him – now a delay of game penalty, “I think if you’ve done one thing all of your career in a situation like that, you do it by instinct. It’s tough to get that away.”
Los Angeles 2, Detroit 1: Penalties doom bruised Red Wings in loss to Kings

-St. James also wrote of Brendan Smith weathering contact by Dustin Penner in the same right shoulder that had been sprained and caused him to miss 11 games before his return last night. Said Smith, “I’m not sure why that happened. I don’t know if it was intentional. I think just the fact you’re not ready for it and the puck’s not around or anything. He’s a big man, too. I’m not sure if that will be reviewed or anything. I’m interested to see what it looked like, too.” An argument could be made for a borderline interference call, but that contact appeared to be incidental. Players routinely bump into each other, Penner is 6-foot-4, weighs 245 pounds, and no malice was intended. A non-call was correct in my view, though some Detroit fans saw it differently.
Red Wings’ Brendan Smith endures ‘whiplash’ vs. Kings, but nothing major

MLive Red Wings coverage

-Ansar Khan provides multiple angles on last night’s game and reveals that Daniel Cleary received 15 stitches from a visor cut when he was run into the boards in the third period. On the Penner-Smith incident, he writes “Officials did not see defenseman Brendan Smith get leveled by Dustin Penner later in the period.” Is that true, or did the referees choose not to call a penalty on the play? Was it confirmed that the referees did not see the hit?
Red Wings feel they were burned by the officials after being clipped and blindsided by the Kings

Detroit News Red Wings coverage

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SB Nation: Winging It In Motown Red Wings coverage

-The Triple Deke took notes on last night’s game.
Royal Pain! Haha what, LA Kings 2 – Detroit Red Wings 1

-J.J. from Kansas awards points for things that don’t necessarily show up on the box score. This is certainly worth a read.
CSSI Analysis: Red Wings 1 – Kings 2

285 Comments

  1. Belexes says:

    Let the crying begin…..

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    RobSD Reply:

    @Belexes,

    Begin? It’s been raining tears since the 3rd last night.

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    Mark Reply:

    @RobSD, Calls have gone the RW’s way for the 40 years I’ve been watching. They are accustomed to having marginal infractions go there way. It’s great to be on the other end of it. It’s great to be the champ.

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    PRMan Reply:

    @Belexes, I’ve got a new name for them: The Red Whinges

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    mash-ola Reply:

    @Belexes, Maybe because they’re so used to winning and they expect more, but I went to a popular Redwings blog site and OMG, those people whine,and whine and whine like no other.

    They’re such crybabies…

    First off. I hate the new faceoff rule as well. But the Kings have been burned by it as well. Secondly the ‘whiplash’ of Smith by Penner was incidental contact. Penner was trying to get out of the way and made contact at the very spot on Smith’s shoulder that he was just coming back from injury on.

    But yeah, 90% of Wings fans (and apparently their local media) are how ‘The Refs handed the Kings the game’.

    Whiners… wow…

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    Belexes Reply:

    @mash-ola,

    Yeah, Penns bumped into his “sore” shoulder. Pass me a tissue.

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    Robert R Reply:

    @Belexes, Sorry, there’s a tissue shortage. Word is that truckloads of them have been diverted to southeast Michigan

    TimZim Reply:

    @Belexes,

    No kidding. I couldn’t believe how much Cleary was complaining because he got cut BY HIS OWN SHIELD on a clean check. He should think about tightening his helmet before acting like a little girl. I used to wear my helmet a little loose until, in a hilariously freak accident, my forehead hit the ice and my shield took out half of my tooth. Didn’t hear me complaining about the ice being a big ol’ meany pants because I was an idiot and didn’t wear my equipment properly.

    Penner on Smith was incidental-ish. Seemed to me like he didn’t see Smith until the last second and simply reacted. It’s not like he hit him hard, but don’t tell that to Smith or any Detroit fan. According to them he got “steamrolled.” Puh-lease.

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    Robert R Reply:

    @TimZim, In 14 years, I’ve had some nasty collisions and gone face first into the boards and I’ve never cut myself on my helmet. Stuff happens, Cleary.

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    Munchrat Reply:

    @TimZim, Smith could have just as easily got 2 minutes for embellishment

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  2. DesertKing says:

    “Well, when we were winning Stanley Cups, we would get no calls like that all the time, and I don’t understand why we don’t still get those calls”

    “You do know you are not the current Stanley Cup champs?”

    “We ain’t? Since win? WE ARE THE MIGHTY INCREDIBLE DETROIT RED WINGS, WINNERS OF MANY STANLEY CUPS AND THE GRETAEST HOCKEY TEAM IN THE WORLD!!!”

    “Uh, thats nice, but the team that just beat you, the LA Kings, they are the Stanley Cup champs right now”

    “What?!! You’re kidding? Is this a Dr. Who epsiode or what? This can’t be”

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    Shiny Reply:

    @DesertKing, +1 you always have the most entertaining “conversation” pieces

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    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @Shiny,

    …Which leads me to wonder what was going on between his head while he was a working stiff.

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    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @kissmyblarneystones,

    …between his ears….

    DesertKing Reply:

    @kissmyblarneystones,

    I’ve been wondering too!

    Duncanz Reply:

    @kissmycraniums, Lots of lazerial lobotomies with light sabers.

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @DesertKing ,

    I got your back brother!

    DesertKing Reply:

    @kissmyblarneystones,

    Cover my 6, and I ain’t talkin’ Muzzin!

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @Duncanz,

    ….and all covered with melted cheese!

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @DesertKing,

    When needed I will, but will assume you’re code 4 unless otherwise informed.

    DesertKing Reply:

    @kissmyblarneystones,

    I feel like I just got hit by Penner. Can someone have a Feather Pillow Concussion?

    DesertKing Reply:

    @kissmyblarneystones,

    Last time I got hit like Smith, it was when my chihuahua was begging for a dog treat.

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @DesertKing,

    A dreaded case of Whiff Lash.

    DesertKing Reply:

    @kissmyblarneystones,

    LOL!

  3. zdfun says:

    As expected…

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  4. DesertKing says:

    Reminds me of a UB-40 song – “Red, red whiiiine!”

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    RobSD Reply:

    @DesertKing,

    Now that’s funny. They should play that clip during the games when they complain about a penalty being called.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @DessertKing, Hey Junior, that was a Neil Diamond song!

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    fsd1 Reply:

    @Duncanz, And Bob Marley

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @fsd1, Seems like Marley would have written it, eh, but Diamond did.

    SLIM Reply:

    @Duncanz,
    Written by the “ole crazy Diamond”…

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  5. MmmmYummy says:

    “Fifteen stitches right to the orbital bone,” Cleary said. “Probably should have been called.”

    Sounds like Cleary’s got a serious case of butthurt goin’ on. Poor guy. I didn’t know it was possible to stitch bone.

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    Deke'r Reply:

    @MmmmYummy, ….excellent no call….if Cleary fights through the good shoulder to shoulder check from Muzzy instead of trying to roll out of it his mug doesn’t hit the glass and his shield don’t cut him……nice hustle from the rook….

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    mash-ola Reply:

    @MmmmYummy, penalties and stitches do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. It’s in the rulebook, I believe…

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    jet Reply:

    @MmmmYummy, Clearly, you need to put your chicken wings up once in a while. Not one team mate came to his support.

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    Mars Reply:

    @jet, they didn’t want a knolly sandwich

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    Mars Reply:

    @MmmmYummy, maybe if he had his helmet strapped on properly…..
    Maybe if he had moved away from the hit or prepared for it….

    To me it looked like he was trying to draw a penalty.
    After it failed he tried to show off his boo boo.
    After that he just kept yelling and cussing.

    If he wants to see a really injury go see Brown or Stoll.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Mars,

    He still ain’t Randy Carlyle.

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    mrbrett7 Reply:

    @MmmmYummy, It’s hard to call a high sticking penalty when the stick was nowhere near your face Mr. Cleary.

    I think it’s pretty “clear” that Cleary isn’t a “clear” choice for sportsman of the year.

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  6. BobMillersHair says:

    “I think if you’ve done one thing all of your career in a situation like that, you do it by instinct. It’s tough to get that away.”

    Tough – thats why you guys make the big bucks…….

    If it was the other way around they would have wanted it called.
    Shuddufudup……..

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  7. vplaza says:

    Quick, someone call the Waaaaahhhmbulance for these guys. They need it.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @vplaza,

    How far the mighty have fallen….. You wouldn’t have heard this crap from Lidstrom. No wonder he left, he could see the writing on the wall.

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    vplaza Reply:

    @DesertKing,

    And I wouldn’t mind if they fall further down.

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  8. Pili says:

    There might be a major shortage of tissues in the Wings locker room. They played two good periods, but thanks to Bernier & Co the King’s size wore them down. Bring on the sisters. GKG!!!

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  9. Yucaipa STH says:

    We need a shipment of Pampers for the greater Detroit area.

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    Spencer Maze Reply:

    @Yucaipa STH, Depends ;)

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  10. jess says:

    Especially today -as my guess would be that the only thing residents of Detroit might look forward to is hockey, but no matter how you slice it, can’t imagine that any view from Detroit is ever pretty.

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    King'ntheD Reply:

    @jess, take it ez…some of us happen to live in metro Detroit and, 6 months out if the year, the view is not too bad. Still, wouldn’t mind moving back home at some point in time

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  11. DieHardKingsFan says:

    I was at the game last night and witnessed a typical Red Wing team get away with a constant attack consisting of grabbing/clutching, with a multitude of different obstructions/blocking type of moving screens of interference which has been a huge part of how the Red Wings gain and maintain puck possesion successfully over the years without the officials calling any kind of penalty. This is amazing how for so many years they play this style with immunity while other teams are victims of far less kinds of play. I understand having a presence on the puck and the importance of good positioning either on offense or defense, but it seems like Detroit is immune to the rules that ALL other teams must play by. UGGGGHHHH Frustrating to hear them cry when a game is called close and they lose, when typically they usually get away with murder on the ice.

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    Jenn Reply:

    @DieHardKingsFan,
    100+ true.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @DieHardKingsFan, Are all the refs from Detroit?
    This would nicely explain everything.

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    DieHardKingsFan Reply:

    @Duncanz, It would appear so. If over the years you have watched the wings play you see a pattern or style for how the wings interfere with their opponents. It seems that officials all over the league accept this type of play that only Detroit can get away with.

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    mrbrett7 Reply:

    @DieHardKingsFan, Well said!

    I maintain that anytime Zetterberg is on the ice, he should have at least 20 interference penalties called on him.

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    Robert R Reply:

    @mrbrett7, I’d love to have Zetterberg. Or Franzen, for that matter.

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    LVKINGS88 Reply:

    @DieHardKingsFan, I just posted on the Wet Whines site, that they had no right to complain, I saw all the clutching and grabbing that should have been called against the Wings but wasn’t and that they reminded me of the way the quacks used to play.I posted that their team didn’t deserve the first win against us, seeing how #13 Zburg was a mile off-sides on the first goal against us.

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    Ravens Reply:

    @LVKINGS88, Good for you , all true

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  12. rogiesbackup says:

    Off Topic: Wonder what DL has in the works or if has something in the works regarding the Gagne transaction? I understand Danny Brier is in the news!!!

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    puck73 Reply:

    @rogiesbackup, What happened to Danny Briere? Is he hurt yet again?

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    Deke'r Reply:

    @rogiesbackup,….hope not Briere….gettin long in the tooth and not much of a two way player….

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    brian spain Reply:

    @rogiesbackup, No Way on Brier, he is too small, the Kings won the cup because they crushed bodies and took the puck away. Little guys don’t fair well in the tight checking tough guy playoffs.

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    rogiesbackup Reply:

    @rogiesbackup, I heard it in NHL Tonight; something about his contract this year? Maybe he becomes UFA and thought maybe DL is playing with with the idea. Just don’t know.

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  13. rogiesbackup says:

    NHL.com has Jonathon Bernier one of the nights three stars.

    Bernie, Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!!!!!!

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    Shiny Reply:

    @rogiesbackup, go Bernie!!!!!! I’m shocked they realized we played last night!

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    rogiesbackup Reply:

    @Shiny, hehe, believe me they’re aware.

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  14. Deke'r says:

    …..Redwings….when a team plays tougher they cry like Coyotes…..ooooowwwwwwwwwww….hahahaha….

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    puck73 Reply:

    @Deke’r, Good analogy

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    Deke'r Reply:

    @puck73, ….great hustle last night….and what was that “soccer play” Smith tried last night after Penns bumped him…..wasn’t nearly as catastophic as Smith tried to make it out to be…..can hear the trainer “stay down the refs are looking…..oh never mind, no call”…..Smith should be tagged as an olympic diver….

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Deke’r, My thoughts initially, but that is the spot he had surgery. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt this time.

  15. Hutch says:

    Looking forward to the Wings in the East next season. Lame fans, and a team of divers and whiners. Smith should have been called for a dive, as he performed a remarkable feat of acting as he could hardly keep his feet underneath himself as he was helped off the ice. Clearly Cleary was clipped and cut by his own visor.

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    Deke'r Reply:

    @Hutch, …..didn’t see your post….at least I’m not alone in my observation…..

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Hutch, On the other hand, we’ll miss the bitter rivalry and regular epic battles with those guys.

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  16. losingsand says:

    I love the ref blaming. How bout the fact that their only goal was a fluke. I think both teams played pretty sloppily. Difference was our elite players made elite plays and theirs didn’t. No team dominated, no team looked specifically sharp. I think the red wings did a good job neutralizing the kings relentless forecheck which we’ve seen the last 3 weeks. But by no means did they control the game besides the first 15 minutes. Kings took over in the last 15 minutes, and everything in the middle was a wash.

    Kings hung in there and took advantage of their oppurtunities.

    We got the outcome we should have gotten the first time around. But by no means were the wings “robbed” of points in this game, they didn’t play well enough to win.

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  17. jet says:

    Sad, how the mighty have fallen. The only thing worse than falling apart on the ice, is not taking responsibility for your actions the following day. Sounds like Babcock has lost the team.

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  18. mash-ola says:

    Does the NHL have a rule about trashing the officiating? I know the NBA does and Babcock and the players deserve a nice fine to lighten their wallets. The teams just play. They have no control over the officiating. And when a team like the Redwings (or even the Kings for that matter) get a favorable call, have you ever heard them once say “well, we got away with one but we’ll take it”?

    The complaning and whining is so juvenille. If anything, it just makes me smile more to know how it is eating up the Wings and their crybaby fans (not all of them, but from the posts I’ve read, about 90% of them).

    GO KINGS GO!

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @mash-ola,

    I remember DL opening his wallet a couple of seasons ago for something similar.

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    KC23 Reply:

    @mash-ola, Oh yeah, they’ll hit the wallet of anybody talking trash about the refs.

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  19. Mars says:

    Wonder if the NHL will sack up and slap Babcock with a fine for blabbing about the refs.
    Seeing as its the wingdings I doubt it.

    We won’t hear a peep about it from the NHL wether they were good/bad because there really isn’t anything to be said

    If they won’t address an illegal stick on the ice; well you get the point.

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  20. Khanon1 says:

    The Wings are the only team in the league where the opposition can do whatever they want. If you crash the net and make contact with Howard, there will be no response from the wings. If you take Smith’s head off when the puck is not even in the vicinity, there will be no response from the wings. If you smash Cleary’s head into the boards, there will be no response from the wings. The list goes on and on…

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  21. cup4kings says:

    How about all these phantom tripping calls going against the Kings the past few games? Calls will never be a perfect. Just have to live with them and keep playing.

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    Shiny Reply:

    @cup4kings, or how about the no call on Quick’s stick in Chicago? DS&Co. basically said, that first goal should’ve been a penalty, but what can you do? In the end we played well but not enough to win. They didn’t all harp on the refs and decided to improve their play instead of vry

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    Shiny Reply:

    @Shiny, cry* . Cursed fat fingers hit the button prematurely

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    DLB Reply:

    @Shiny, Right on. You nailed it. Sutter doesn’t let them wallow in crap excuses.

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  22. Shiny says:

    It’s probably because I’m a shameless, biases homer but I feel like the Kings never cried this much whenever they have lost in the past. Usually they make pitiful excuses (just got outworked, their defense is very good, didn’t show up mentally ready, etc etc) but they never blamed the officiating or cried about foul hits.

    What is it with these cry babies lately?? Is there any professionalism left in this league??

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  23. Jeff says:

    I was at the game last night in Section 110. To my right were a huge contingent of Wings fans. It was so annoying to hear these people and their stupid “Let’s Go Wings” chant throughout the game. Carter’s goal and Kopitar’s slick move to win it made it that much sweeter to “hear” the silence coming from these nitwits in their red jerseys!

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  24. Marc says:

    Dustin Penner must have super strength. He can casually bump into someone and cause them to crumple into a heap on the ice.

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    Mars Reply:

    @Marc, he pours pancake batter on his pads and lets it dry to harden the pads up.

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    Shiny Reply:

    @Mars, is that like the equivalent of boxers pouring concrete in their gloves?

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    Mars Reply:

    @Shiny, Yeah, but Penner just likes to aroma. ;)

    Shiny Reply:

    @Marc, apparently he was a vicious demon on the ice last night as he “ran over” Smith, even thou Smith didn’t have the puck

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Marc,

    No wonder Penner always seems to be gliding. If he was going full speed he would kill people and then DS would have to say “Everybody died”.

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Marc, It does seem like Penner is a wall when players run into it much of the time. Kinger, same thing. Someone hits them hard, but nothing happens. Penner and King just kind of stand there like nothing happened.

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    BrokeKingsFan Reply:

    @KC23, unless your TJ Oshie

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  25. Steamer Lane says:

    Leveled by Penner??? Gimme a break.

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  26. jp says:

    I don’t know what call Cleary was expecting, but his continued whining when the contact was obviously legal says a lot about his character. It’s too bad that he was injured on the play, but it was shoulder-to-shoulder, no high stick, no boarding. Penner’s hit, on the other hand, was perhaps a little too forceful considering where the puck was and probably should have been an interference call. The officiating has been consistently awful all season and thinking back to some of the horrible calls (or non-calls) at the end of last season, I get nervous any time Steven Walkom is one of the refs.

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    FromSwedenWithLove Reply:

    @jp, Best comment so far. Muzzin delivered a heavy but fair hit. Penner should have been called for Interference for sure. In my opinion a mature and objective view over those two situations.

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    Rookie Reply:

    @jp,

    Exactly what I saw.

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  27. brian spain says:

    The Red Wing fans cry more than the Ducks fans. OMG. The ref was probably 6 feet from Penner when he ran into Smith, so in his eyes it was incedental contact. Its not like he didn’t see it. If he saw something out of the corner of his eye, he woulkd have seen Smith go down like the Titanic and called a penalty thinking Penner must have drilled him. I think you get more non calls as “part of the game” than you do from a ref missing something. Vs Ducks Richards and a duck ran into each other right in front of the ref, no call, it was just hockey

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    NOW IMPRESSED Reply:

    @brian spain, From what I remember wasn’t Smith just standing there? So how could interference be called? If Penner “interfered” with Smith’s progress, then interference could be called. But there was no progress to interfere with. Incedental contact.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @NOW IMPRESSED,

    +1

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    KC23 Reply:

    @NOW IMPRESSED, Smith was denied a spot on the ice he had already claimed. That defines interference imho. It was clearly a blown call, but more likely the refs didn’t like the flop and staying on ice along with taking a lot of crap from the Wing’s bench before that.

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  28. MmmmYummy says:

    At least the Det whining and diving and overreacting is going to be a good warm up for the Vancouver game on Sat.

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    jet Reply:

    @MmmmYummy, But, their number 1 diver is sitting out this competition

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    luc20rules Reply:

    @jet, Not to worry they evauate the diving skills in the draft War Room at Vancouver. They have dive depth throughout their entire organization even down to Juniors.

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    jet Reply:

    @luc20rules, I know, the Russian judges always give the Nucks higher marks

  29. Lake Forest says:

    Smith hit – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmAIvnTcDf4

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    Shiny Reply:

    @Lake Forest, you’ve got to be f’ing with me. Penner *barely* touched him and they’re all complaining about whiplash?? Maybe whiplash from taking a five like that. Jeez

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Shiny, Maybe they consulted the venerable, Doctor Doan!

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    DLB Reply:

    @Duncanz, +1

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @Shiny,

    Cheesy attempt to draw a penalty, but Penner did throw the elbow to the back of the head. Fo Sho!

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    mash-ola Reply:

    @Lake Forest, Redwing fans screaming that a penalty/suspension was in order. Gimme a break. Penner was trying to get out of Smith’s way (Smith wasn’t even looking). IF Penner really wanted to throw a blindside check Smith intentionally, Smith would have wound up crumpled behind Howard into the net. But seriously, no intent to throw a check was there at all.

    Those looking for witches in a witch hunt will eventually find witches.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Lake Forest,

    Maybe Penner did knock the crap out of him. His drawers looked a little droopy as he was skating off.

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    Mars Reply:

    @Lake Forest, He musta seen the Ovi dive and tried his hand at acting

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Mars,

    Charlie Sheen is looking to take out the guy who wiped out Ovi.

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Lake Forest, First I’ve seen the hit from the above camera. Saw it from the lower one and it looked worse because you don’t get much of an impression of Smyth skating backwards and Penner ackwardly trying to get around him and bumping Smyth. This is not nearly as bad as i thought it was from only seeing that lower camera view.

    Good non call as I see it. He went down like that because he got hit in the shoulder he just had surgery on.

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    lvkingaholic Reply:

    @Lake Forest, reminds me of the movie mash……. oh my god, they shot him……….

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    rogiesbackup Reply:

    @Lake Forest, You can see Penns tried to go AROUND him.

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  30. Neil says:

    OFF TOPIC… we take a break to play…Truth Or False……New York Islanders are avg. more fans per game then Phoenix… T or F …. Game On….

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    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @Neil,
    T

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    Neil Reply:

    @kissmyblarneystones, actually false….Phoenix is avgering more fans per game !!!!

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    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @Neil,

    Next?

    Neil Reply:

    @Neil, Next question..T or F Kings have more goals then San Jose this season???

    Bonus questions…….T or F Kings have more goals this season then Edmonton…

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @Neil,

    F

    F

  31. kings714 says:

    After seeing the hit on replay how do babcock and cleary have the nerve to cry for a penalty? It was a clean hit, and cleary’s visor cut him. End of story.
    Smith’s should have been interference, but just as importantly i would have booked him for embellishment; he went down way too dramatically.

    They did control the game, but their only goal was a complete FLUKE.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @kings714, Yellow card?

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    Neil Reply:

    @Duncanz, Not a bad band..Ocean Ave !!!! Saw them a few times….

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Neil, Lol, they also generously lent their name to what was previously known as a ‘booking’ in soccer.

    Shiny Reply:

    @kings714, it’s not like Penner went out of his way to hit the guy. He was changing directions to get to puck and accidentally clipped Smith in his injured shoulder. No-call was absolutely the best call

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Shiny, yeah, I agree after seeing that high camera view. The lower one doesn’t show just how much Smyth was skating backwards getting in Penners way as much as the other way around.

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    vplaza Reply:

    @kings714,

    Oh noze, Cleary did a Kessler?

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    vplaza Reply:

    @vplaza,

    Sorry, meant “Smith”

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @vplaza,

    Same thing

    Mars Reply:

    @kings714, isnt a fluke a tape worm?

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    Shiny Reply:

    @Mars, so what you’re saying is, Cleary is a tapeworm? I’m not disagreeing

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  32. Duncanz says:

    @Jonny Rosen, Love all the various sources you are drawing from for ‘The view from …’ features.
    But as hilarious as he was, could you please remind J.J. from Kansas and any others that DJ King plays for Ontario Reign and Dwight King is his not-so-identical sibling.

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    JonRosen Reply:

    @Duncanz, I hope you never read this article in which Dwight King is referred to a “predator”, and not the type that plays in Nashville: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-kings-serve-notice-they-re-a-royal-pain/article_c330b7eb-3e2e-5e2f-9968-391d48504d58.html

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @JonRosen,

    Haha, “Gutless cheapshot.” Looks like Bernie’s got enough “gut” for everyone. Winners write the hitory books, and the books say no foul, Blues lose, Kings win, Kings go on to claim the Cup, Bernie goes on to be, well, Bernie in St. Louie.

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  33. Deke'r says:

    …..Kronwall gets 3rd star…for what..5 shots?…..guess they had to dig deep as no Redwang scored a legit goal….

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    BrokeKingsFan Reply:

    @Deke’r, he got that for his blown coverage on Kopi’s game winner…

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  34. Neil says:

    Lets be honest here…First if you get hit by a 6 feet 4 player…and you have a bad shoulder..its going to hurt…Penner is huge. I dont think any hockey players are babies..they wouldnt last.If it happenned to a King..we all would be wanting interference.Also losers all complain…even King fans….shoot we have King fans complaining about how bad the announcer were last night and there were fair.. We all pick and choose…but all fans are alike… We can only hope that the Kings fans are as loud as Detroit fans are in the home arena.s,,,,

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    Lake Forest Reply:

    @Neil, my take exactly. Should have been interference, but it wasnt so…..

    Also if you are hurt by a “hit” like that, you shouldnt be in the line up.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Lake Forest,

    I think @NOW IMPRESSED was right in his above post. Smith wasn’t moving and wasn’t going for the puck, so there is no interference, just incidental contact. Keep your head up Smith and you might be able to see the big 6-4 (6-6 with skates) 240lb guy dressed in black on a white surface coming at you.

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    Lake Forest Reply:

    @DesertKing, touché

    Deke'r Reply:

    @Neil, ….haha….I would think if you’re playing with a shoulder that is that bad you would take measures to insure you wouldn’t get hit…..you know…keep your head on a swivel and not stare at the puck….and being fair I don’t think it was a solid hit….yes I’ve been hit by 6″4″ players and bigger…

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    Neil Reply:

    @Deke’r, Iam a little guy(wouldnt fit on the Kings) but even a little hit from 6 4 240 pounds can knock you down….I was little surprise he went down like he did..but some players are tougher then others…BTW isnt it interference if its intentional or not???

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Neil, You’re right.
    Skate on the other foot there and Kings fans would be shrieking.
    And had the refs ‘chosen’ to call that, Penner would once again be slammed as being ‘better off waived’ or ‘permanently consigned to the press box’ by all and sundry.

    Deke'r Reply:

    @Neil, ….only if it’s called….

    Mars Reply:

    @Neil, if it hurt his shoulder he would have been on his side not on both forearms cradling his head.
    His actions were screaming for attention by the refs not his well being.

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    Deke'r Reply:

    @Mars, ….true that…..but I do feel bad for Smith…yeah right….

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    Mars Reply:

    @Deke’r, best place to get hurt is on the ice
    Just lay down for immediate numbing

    Too bad he put his helmet down not the shoulder

  35. PalmSpringsKingsFan says:

    OK the DEAD WINGS are complaining about last night…What about the Datsuck goal when he crossed the line offside? (last time)
    So for all the POS from the loser town of Detroit forgetaboutit and man up.

    What about when that crybaby loser Howard took a smack at KOPI after Kopi hung him out to dry?

    Poorsports MOTOWN has become CROWTOWN now eat it you babies.

    Wait unitl next time We will show you what a hit is, if you try to bring it!

    OUT PLAYED is what happened to them.

    LA GRIT is alive and kicking GO KINGS GO!!!

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @PalmSpringsKingsFan,

    Beautiful man, just beautiful! Love the CROWTOWN.

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    LVKINGS88 Reply:

    @PalmSpringsKingsFan, More like Mowtown, as in they are beginning to mow that town down with bulldozers,or Doztown. The decay of Detroit.

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  36. King Alex says:

    Bernier played great and helped steal this game. We did not bring the full A game all night but we did play good enough to steal this one. We won. We earned it & we deserve it. Detroit, quit whining & crying. You are starting to look like Phoenix!

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  37. harty says:

    Wings got beat by a hungry team last night period………….
    And for the Cleary hit, it was clean and a good hockey play.
    Take the visor off puppy, and play with the real men if it cuts you.

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    Robert R Reply:

    @harty, But he LIKES the visor! Helps him pretend that he’s an astronaut. Don’t deny him.

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  38. PalmSpringsKingsFan says:

    is Muzzin OK ? took a big hit last night.

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    Shiny Reply:

    @PalmSpringsKingsFan, he was still in at the end so.he’s probably OK. Probably grateful for a day off.

    Dude, that roughing call that was for Cliffy, the red wings fans in the stands were SO upset. Then they got even more mad (because they felt justified) when the replayed showed the guy trying to behead Cliffy.

    As a fan, I’m not mad that the guy did it. My whole thing is, he could probably have severely injured Cliffy with a move.like that. I realize you’re mad, but really? Mad enough to try and permanently end a guy’s career? This league is.filled with cheaters and liars and morons

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  39. Mars says:

    What are the wings going to cry about next year when they get their own division?
    The blue jackets are too difficult to play so often?

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  40. goldielocks says:

    Off topic;

    Flames give RFA Ryan O’Reilly an offer sheet. Avalanche will have to respond in 1 week.

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    Shiny Reply:

    @goldielocks, hasn’t he been dying to get out of Denver because he thinks he’s worth more than he really is?

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    LBlocal Reply:

    @goldielocks, Feaster may be up to something. They’ll have to clear cap space. I surmise a few big contracts heading to the lower 48 by 04.03. I wonder what IgInLA’s relationship is like with coach mumbles? gKg!

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    FKA PakiFro Reply:

    @goldielocks,

    5mm AAV for a player that’s produced about .5 PPG? I guess he’s got good upside and they’re paying for potential. I don’t think he’s a bad player, I was just surprised by the amount.

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    puck73 Reply:

    @goldielocks, One of the many reasons I like DL besides the fact that he has built a Stanley Cup winner and contender? He has said since the day he arrived in LA that he would NEVER EVER offer a contract to some other teams restricted free agent, and so far he has been true to his word.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @goldielocks,

    Why would Calgary do this? The player is arguably not worht the amount, he is creating bad blood with another organization and Clagary has to give up draft choices (pretty good ones!) to get this UFA who is a nobody. I just don’t see why so if anyone could explain it. I would really be interested to why Calgary would do this.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @DessertKing, Why? Because he would be a perfect teammate for Camalleri, silly.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Duncecanz,

    Doh! It was sooooo obvious! Just like Penner skating on the ice! How did I go into “Smith Mode” and miss that! Thanks, I feel better now.

    CB14 Reply:

    @goldielocks, If i’m Colorado, there’s no way i’m matching that. They’d get the Flames 1st and 3rd round picks in this years draft. The Flames suck, so the pick is likely to be in the top 10, with a decent chance of it being number 1 overall. O’Reilly is a nice player, but he’s not worth 5 million per season. Then’d also have the same problem negotiating a new contract in 2 years. Take the picks Colorado.

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  41. Neil says:

    Jon or Paul or anyone…What time is practice tomorrow??? Going there to get Duncanz to buy me lunch !!!!

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    Lake Forest Reply:

    @Neil, just keep an eye on your drink. Dont want anything slipped in there.

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    JonRosen Reply:

    @Neil, should be at 10 am unless I am otherwise notified.

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    Neil Reply:

    @JonRosen, Thanks !!!!

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Neil, Here’s the sad news for you. The cafe there shut down and will not open again for a few weeks …. but there’s a nice little quiet, darkened bar down the street that I take @Lake Forest to sometimes …

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    Neil Reply:

    @Duncanz, see you tomorrow and all other king fans !!!

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  42. gene says:

    Last night on the L.A. Detroit game, the announcing crew was the San Jose TV crew. They made the point that the hit on Cleary was a legal and clean hit. Quit being a baby with a visor Cleary. If you dont like the hit then drop the visor, be a man, and fight the other player who hit you. Whine whine whine. Sounds like the team from AZ.

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  43. KC23 says:

    Hey Jon, can you find out why Pearson didn’t play in the last Monarchs game? Can’t find anything about it.

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    KC23 Reply:

    @KC23, Never mind. Paul got the info already: http://kingsnewsdaily.com/the-monarchs-tanner-pearson-out-indefinitely/#comment-3924

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    JonRosen Reply:

    @KC23, I’ll have more on this from Vancouver.

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  44. Gustavo says:

    OK, Mr Badcock,
    Let’s meet in the first round of playoffs.

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  45. Michael J. says:

    My favorite comment is this one,

    Babcock: “Well, considering how badly L.A. outplayed us last time we were fortunate to win that one. Coincidentally, if we take into account the Pavel was three feet offsides on his goal in the game a couple of weeks ago I don’t have any room to complain about the officiating.”

    So glad he keeps everything in perspective.

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    phil sykes Reply:

    @Michael J., i havent seen all the articles …. but if babcock says this … he is a man

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    Michael J. Reply:

    @phil sykes,

    hen he’s not the man ;)

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    lvkingaholic Reply:

    @phil sykes, gingers don’t man up……… ask the twins

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    rogiesbackup Reply:

    @lvkingaholic, I like your handle! :)

    rogiesbackup Reply:

    @Michael J., Babby has always been one of my favorite coaches in the NHL. He’ always had a good disposition.

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  46. phil sykes says:

    lol ….. i told everybody last night the wings would pull this crying campaign ala tippett and the coyotes …. lol lol lol . not that that means im nostradameus or anything ………. anybody could have seen this coming from a mile away

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    Lake Forest Reply:

    @phil sykes, I don’t like to pat myself on the back but……

    toot toot.

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    KC23 Reply:

    @phil sykes, sorry no points for predicting that mr. obvious LOL :D

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  47. Duncanz says:

    Ok everyone, I’d just like to announce that last night I predicted the sun would come up this morning.
    Go back and check. I did, I did, I swear!

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Duncecanz,

    Yes, you did, but you said it would come up in the west.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @DessertKing, It did! We’re all out west, aren’t we?

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Duncecanz

    Sorry, I am way east of east LA, and the sun came up east of here, so I have a feeling that might have been west of Albacracky, but east of Quartzite.

    rogiesbackup Reply:

    @Duncanz, Unfortunately, for DiPietro the sun DID rise!!

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @rogiesbackburner, Is it right to be worried about that guy, or does he just have a gallowsy type of humor?

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    phil sykes Reply:

    @Duncanz, u did read the second half of my statement didnt you . – not trying to take credit for obvious things as the second half of my statement implied

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @phil sykes, oh, no …..i haven’t read any other posts all day ………my own are usually the only ones that matter ……..why ……….what happened……………?

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    phil sykes Reply:

    @Duncanz, okay duncanz … whatever dude

    Duncanz Reply:

    @phil slights, dude ………no reason to whatever dude me dude……..we re all friendly peeps here just having a little fun with peeps……..i didn t know you cared enough about me to get upset…………i m flattered ……but a little sad at the same time …….cos that jezbo never gives me any attention on here…….i guess i just have to tell better jokes incorporating sci fi …….and rube goldberg contraptions ……..and other esoteric minutiae……..like dk does…………oh well……..there s always the rest of the peeps on the blog and pizza to eat away at……………..so….bffs again? ………ok?……..it means a lot

    phil sykes Reply:

    @Duncanz, lol whatever duncanz … yea no worries ….. we always bffs

    Duncanz Reply:

    @phil, yeeeaaaahhh…now that s my phil spykes i know and love …………..no big woops i m glad to see……….just lower case woops……………..so now all things are equal…..and the world is back to normal……………………wonder if my straightjacket s back from the cleaners yet

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @Duncanz,

    …….Love it……Keep it coming………dammit………

    phil sykes Reply:

    @Duncanz, just pointing out the wings pulled a tippet … and things like that should not be forgotten – its classless

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    Neil Reply:

    @phil sykes, I only read my own posts….I told my wife that this is my blog….Everyone else is trying to share in my glory….

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    Neil Reply:

    @phil sykes, Its Kiss and Make Up(out) time again…

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    Neil Reply:

    @Duncanz, You did have Quincey scoring a goal yesterday !!!!

    [Reply]

    Neil Reply:

    @Neil, Now Iam talking to myself…

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Neiling, yes……. but since I only read my own glorious posts ………i m unable to confirm this to you……unfortunately…..dude

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    Neil Reply:

    @Duncanz, You talking to me???? You talking to Me???

    phil sykes Reply:

    @Duncanz, u said yes ………. sounds like confirmation to me

    Duncanz Reply:

    @phil, ummm……….i might be psykic!

    Adamic39 Reply:

    @Duncanz, That is the most I have laughed in a LONG time. Thanks

  48. Stackhouse says:

    Not sure if someone posted this already, but a nice little article on Kopitar from SI. Really shows you all he does.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nhl/news/20130228/los-angeles-kings-anze-kopitar-in-stanley-cup-form/?sct=uk_t11_a5

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Stackhouse, awesome read, ty for the link

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    vplaza Reply:

    @Stackhouse,

    Wow, someone actually giving the Kings props who isn’t from LA. Amazing.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Stackhouse,

    That was a great article, except for saying Penner should have been penalized. I like the quote from Babcock reference the Kings playing a “heavy game” under the direction of DS. This shows why TM could never win the Cup for us – he preached a “heavy stick”. DS took it to another level with a “heavy game”.

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    Mars Reply:

    @Stackhouse,

    they are big and they play nasty. Jake Muzzin cut Dan Cleary’s face on a board check that Cleary claimed included a high stick, and Dustin Penner dropped Brendan Smith, who didn’t have the puck, with a drive-by hit that wrenched the Red Wings defenseman’s shoulder. Neither was penalized (Penner certainly should have been, and you can watch the incident here), but that’s how the Kings play hockey.”

    They make us sound like cheapshot cheating thugs, sure we play a physical and agressive game but we dont play dirty.

    Good article, I just dont agree with some points.

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  49. Robert R says:

    Most rational people accept the premise that calls and good breaks/bad breaks even out over time. To those who complain about the Penner non-call (it was incidental contact), DP has also been the victim of questionable judgement by the officials. Penner was asked to explain one call against him in last year’s playoffs, and he responded, “Two minutes for having a big ass?”

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    Mars Reply:

    @Robert R, freaking epic!

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    Robert R Reply:

    @Mars, Penner is a riot.

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    Neil Reply:

    @Robert R, WRT calls good/bad breaks evening out…I have been keeping score and will share at the end of the year if that is true….Right now we are down 3 calls ….

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    Robert R Reply:

    @Neil, You do that plz.

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Robert R, No matter how hard I try not to like Penner, I just can’t help myself. There is just something about that guy that makes me want him around the Kings.

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  50. gailweb says:

    Go Kings Go!

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    Neil Reply:

    @gailweb, ALWAYS !!!!

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  51. Neil says:

    Stat of the day..Stat of the Day..(with apologies to D.P.) The Kings have not allowed a goal in the third period in 6 straight games….WOW

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    Mars Reply:

    @Neil, Truley impressive.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Neil, 3rd periods are the new 1st periods?

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  52. Mars says:

    That is a might fine pic of Zetterterd holding Kopi…..
    http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2013/2/28/4035758/cssi-analysis-red-wings-kings
    and yet they try to blame the officiating?

    Classy Detroit, Cla-say!

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    jet Reply:

    @Mars, That is called koping a feel, not holding

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @jet, Ha ha, and I thought he was amicably propping Kopi up here, what with the problems he’s had keeping his feet lately!

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  53. KDinUT says:

    Four game point streak and centering the 1st line with Kovalchuk . . . Loktionov? That kid’s fortunes sure changed.

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    Neil Reply:

    @KDinUT, He can play…just not for the Kings but he has talent…

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    KDinUT Reply:

    @Neil, I was a fan of Lokti – just no room on the depth chart (and not big enough for the Kings’ style of play). Wish him nothing but success – except against the Kings.

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    KDinUT Reply:

    @KDinUT, Okay, I stand corrected . . . Lokti has had a couple of shifts during this game with Kovalchuk, but is not his regular center. Seemed kind of a meteoric rise from the minors to first line with one of the best pure scorers in the game . . .

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  54. kingsfan9966 says:

    Wings were holding sticks and bodies all game long.
    They are, and always have been, such poor loosers.
    The Kings played a typical King style game. Couldv’e played better for periods one and two, didn’t do well on the four minute three man advantage and yet with grit and a never give up mentality they won the game, got two points and jumped up in the standings. This is the cup champion kings we know and love.
    Bernier was great. We are fortunate to have Bernier. He has a great attitude and didn’t get rattled when he got pushed around in his crease.
    Go Kings.

    dww

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    IN King Reply:

    @kingsfan9966,

    Actually I thought that this was the first time that Bernier didn’t really look all that good. He played well enough to keep us in it, and that’s all you can ask out of your goalie, but he didn’t seem as clean and efficient as he usually does.

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    puck73 Reply:

    @IN King, Live at the game like I was? He was square to the shooter, and making it look easy.

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    luc20rules Reply:

    @puck73, Bernier was in such good position all night that it looked as though Detroit never got a scoring chance. Like you said square to the shooter. The Kings Dmen also did a great job of clearing the slot of loose pucks. No second chance opportunities.

    Robert R Reply:

    @kingsfan9966, Bernier was periodically fighting the puck but came up big every time we needed him (except for that one crazy bounce). Sutter’s term “resilience” applies here–he was good enough for the win even though the night was difficult.

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  55. goldielocks says:

    Avs have matched the O’Reilly offer sheet.

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    phil sykes Reply:

    @goldielocks, no brainer . only 2 years 10 million ….. why wouldnt they ……. thats no big deal

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    phil sykes Reply:

    @phil sykes, the deal is no big deal .. not u being the first to break the news …. lol lol lol …. thanks for the info

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    puck73 Reply:

    @goldielocks, Wow, that was quick

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    phil sykes Reply:

    @puck73, why not . since the deal is signed . get him in the lineup as soon as possible

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  56. luc20rules says:

    JJ from Kansas City? Dwight King not the brother DJ currently on the Onterio Reign.
    3rd Period 15:12 – Los Angeles Goal: Anze Kopitar (wrist shot) from DJ King and Trevor Lewis

    LOL

    Another example of terrible LA Kings coverage east of the Mississippi, I wonder if Doty tallied on the scoresheet?

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    puck73 Reply:

    @luc20rules, It is pathetic coverage. That being said, It might be better then the coverage we get out here where out here, all we get is one dimensional loser Laker talk. The fact is, I could go down to any Claim Jumper restraunt here in Orange County, grab 2 guys or girls, put them in a studio, and talk about Kobe, Dwight, and Pau for 4 hours, it takes no Genius, no thought process, all it takes is piss poor work ethic, thats all.

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    Deke'r Reply:

    @luc20rules, …..they are brothers…DJ is the oldest….http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/02/14/family-ties-strong-for-king-nolan/

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    Deke'r Reply:

    @Deke’r, …oh oh…..your mocking his statements….my bad….

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    luc20rules Reply:

    @Deke’r, No troubles I guess I should have used “his” not “the” to make it clearer.

  57. phil sykes says:

    what a glorius disaster that 1st goal was ……. first scuds passing it to king who didnt realize there was pressure behind him and thusly missed the pass that probably shouldnt have been put in that area in the first place ……… and then quinceys harmless shot is going like 5 feet wide , but bernier decides to try and glove it – i guess because he figured , why not – but then it pops out of his glove because he had to stretch for the shot that was well off net …… so the stretch caused it to pop out up in the air and off his head while he falling off balance .. talk about the keystone cops ….. 3 guys at fault on that play

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @phil sykes, Nothing wrong with Scuds’ pass. It wasn’t a hard pass and went exactly where it should have and was his only play. Kinger’s an NHL player. He’s expected to be anticipating that pass, control it ahead of the pressure and dish it or tip it to a teammate in space in the DZone or NZone. Instead he is unprepared for the pass and flubs the play. Scuds has had his issues lately but he hardly gets charged in that situation.
    Sure it was going wide, but JB gets a lot of glove on it and is fully justified in going for it to control the play. Bit of bad luck involved the rest of the way is all.

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  58. King Charles of Salt Lake says:

    It’s funny how the Kings start winning and now every post is about how great the team is. Yes it’s been fun watching the boys play up to our expectations, but let me remind you all that this is going to be a season of streaks. We must keep the presure on every team we play. We can not afford to get laxed on any given day. We must remain focused and intense. We go as Brown goes!!!

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  59. YoBro says:

    Re:Detroit’s whining. Sure, it hurts to lose, but there’s no place for crying in the NHL. More and more I hear players nowadays whining & bitching about officiating and questionable hits…. Blah,blah,blah,blah… I’m not sure if some of these Nancy’s could have even played back in the days when there was only 1 ref. There was ALWAYS a lot going on behind the play and away from the puck. The players would do a lot of the policing themselves, and diving was mostly unheard of. My how times have changed.

    Go Kings

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  60. Mik3ysfv says:

    Wow. I just got done reading all the comments from wingingitinmotown. They all literally believe they lost the game because of the non-call on Penner. Not the horribly blown coverage on Kopitar. I am very happy to say that since I have been reading this site, since ’09, I have never seen the type of whining here that is going on on that site. You guys should really check it out and see how absolutely classless they are.

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  61. luc20rules says:

    Don’t understand the lack of respect for Justin William? In 2 post season runs to win the Stanley Cup with Carl 05-06 25 games 7 G 11 A 18pts +12, with LA 20 games 4 G 11 A 15pts +8. This guy steps up in the playoffs. In the regular season the last 2 years he has averaged 22 G 36A 58pts +8.5 pretty good for 3.65 mil/yr. Also consider the many, many players brought in to bloster the offense and how rarely it works Penner, Stoll, Hunter, Ethan “Power Play” Moreau, Gagne, Richards, etc. Williams, & Carter are really the only ones that have produced as expected on offense.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @luc20rules, Not to mention that for that money he has held down a regular 1st line spot for all this time.
    Although, if MR continues to heat up he might shake your (non-)rating of him around a bit.

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    luc20rules Reply:

    @Duncanz, I am just refering to offensive production. MR has all the intangibles that make him a huge positive, but MR IMHO would need 14 G or 35 pts to meet his expected offensive production for this season. I even think Stoll is a huge asset, but again I was evaluating expected scoring. My point is that players find it hard to be as defensively responsible not to mention play the cycle O-zone keep away the Kings expect while scoring anywhere close to their previous scoring average.

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  62. soo-do-nihm says:

    I find it endlessly amusing that all hockey fans are exactly the same. We like to blame the refs, interpret what we thought we saw on TV as truth, play coach and GM…

    I don’t know why, but I can’t help but be amused and irritated at the same time by the whiny Detroit fans. Oh well. It is what is. Can’t take anything back now.

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    Robert R Reply:

    @soo-do-nihm, Play GM? Who on this site plays GM? Really?
    I’d say that many of us play GM/head coach/power play assistant coach/goaltending coach/head concessionaire/PR director.

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    soo-do-nihm Reply:

    @Robert R, Wait wait, you also forgot the team’s beat reporter

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  63. phil sykes says:

    sweet night on the scoreboard … flames are pissed right now they blew that 3 goal lead

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    Gustavo Reply:

    @phil sykes,

    Flames are even more pissed Sherman of the Avs matched thier offer sheet to O’Reilly

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Gustavo, Or maybe they craftily connived to mess with Avs salary cap – same Division and everything.

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    Gustavo Reply:

    @Duncanz, naaahhhh….. The avs are at 53 mill (including O’Reilly)

    Gustavo Reply:

    @Duncanz, naaahhhh….. The avs are at 53 mill (including O’Reilly)

    luc20rules Reply:

    @phil sykes, You’re killing us Det @ SJ, OT SO. LOL

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  64. CB14 says:

    Andrei Loktionov now with 2 goals and 2 assists in 5 games with the Devils. Where’s all you nay sayers now?

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    Gustavo Reply:

    @CB14,

    Right here is one. Lokti has the heart and some skill, but he does not fit the LAK playstyle. He could not check anyone and was often a target for opponents trying to find someone to hit after Captain Crunch leveled one of their top players.

    Gagne, similar thing. Both finesse type players that do not belong in the western conference

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    phil sykes Reply:

    @Gustavo, even lubo scored tonight … cami too … lol gotta love the lil finese guys … not what we want

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    CB14 Reply:

    @Gustavo, I wasn’t referring to your point of view that his style of play wasn’t a perfect fit for this team, I was referring to the people who said he sucked and wouldn’t make it in the NHL.

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    Gustavo Reply:

    @CB14,

    Same thing. He SUCKED here.

    CB14 Reply:

    @Gustavo, Yet, he’s killing it in Jersey, go figure.

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    luc20rules Reply:

    @Gustavo, +1, see my post above about Justin Williams. Can’t understand why we would get rid of someone that fits our system. Only a 1 of 4 or so offensive guys fit the LA Kings Stanley Cup Championship Style, so why then would we let one go.

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    Sdgolfer Reply:

    @CB14, devils suck. Guy is playing on the first line there, can’t crack the lineup here.
    Where were you gonna play Loki?
    1st line center?
    2nd line center?
    No way is he a bottom 6 line player, not the way he’s built.
    Loki said he cant play any position beside center.
    He’s not needed here.

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    CB14 Reply:

    @Sdgolfer, Devils have the 6th most points in the East, played in the finals last year, and have more points than the Kings, yet they suck? I don’t think so.

    Like I said to @Gustavo, I was referring to the people who said he sucked and wouldn’t make it in the NHL.

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    HockeyNerd Reply:

    @CB14, The Jury is still out. We will see if he keeps those point totals up and is still centering the first line in a few months. I do have to admit I am mildly surprised so far.

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @CB14,

    He Scored points against Washington and Winnipeg, 23rd and 25th in Goals Against. I don’t see the trail being blazed just yet. Though we’ll see I’m sure.

    CB14 Reply:

    @KMBS, It’s not like the rest of his teammates did all that good against those teams. They scored 7 goals in 4 games against Washington and Winnipeg. Lokti contributed to 4 of those 7 goals.

    kissmyblarneystones Reply:

    @CB14,

    We didn’t need goal scorers, we needed puck controllers. That why your beloved Lokti was dispensed with. He couldn’t do what Stoll could, which was win face offs and control the puck.

    Good luck to Lokti, he won’t win them the Cup, but at least he’s making an argument for himself. Good for him I say.

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @CB21, Maybe this year Lokti will finally usurp Nancy Anschutz and get his name on the Cup.
    I’ll say it once again …. Poor Lokti!

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  65. soo-do-nihm says:

    Ok, I am trying hard to catch up with the news today but I’m very far behind. What happened again with the Flames that’s making everyone raise their eyebrows at them?

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    CB14 Reply:

    @soo-do-nihm, They signed Ryan O’Reilly to an offer sheet, which Colorado immediately matched.

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    soo-do-nihm Reply:

    @CB14, I think I heard 2 years/10 mil? Didn’t think he was worth that much

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    CB14 Reply:

    @soo-do-nihm, I don’t think he was either. I would’ve let him walk and taken the 1st and 3rd round picks. There’s only 4 teams with fewer points in the NHL right now, that pick could’ve turned out to be the better option.

    Duncanz Reply:

    @CB37, Obviously Avs and other teams in the NW Division know something about this guy.
    Watch for him to at least make sone sort of an impact from here out.

  66. Craig says:

    Lol, is this a joke? Are you people seriously that blind? Penner’s elbow was no where near Smith’s head. Pretty sure if he is built like a normal human his elbow would be located under the white part of his sleeve. Looks to me like Smith couldn’t handle a whimpy little shoulder to shoulder or he was diving in an attempt to draw a penalty. You guys can whine all you want, but when it comes down to it, your team scored one lucky little fluky goal because bernier lost his balance. Quit crying and blaming penner for your loss.

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