Slava Voynov turned in a plus-8 performance in the Kings’ five-game road swing that began two Saturdays ago in Anaheim and ended Monday night in St. Louis, where he turned in a plus-three effort.
Having chatted with both Voynov and Darryl Sutter over the past week, I’m getting the sense that there’s really nothing “new” that he’s “developed” in his game. He’s simply showing off the skill set that previously placed him so high on Los Angeles’ prospect list, and maintaining the confidence that he can consistently put it to use at the NHL level.
“He’s not doing anything ‘different’ or any ‘better’. He’s ‘doing it’,” Sutter said at practice the day prior to the Nashville game last week.
Voynov was not credited with one giveaway on the roadtrip, and the stick work he used to disrupt a two-on-one in the third period in St. Louis was representative of the all around skill he possesses. Though his average ice time this season ranks third on the team at 21:32 per game, his 26:06 logged in Monday’s win was a career high, and between the four most recent games against Central Division competition, he averaged just under 24:58 of ice time. With Alec Martinez’s status uncertain due to an “upper-body injury” suffered in the first period on Monday, Voynov will continue to serve as an anchor on the team’s blue line.
Slava Voynov, on his comfort level:
“Every game its better and better, I feel.”
Voynov, on Carter’s first period goal against St. Louis:
“We played four on four, and [Richards] skated on the right boards. Mike passed to me, something like that. The two on one freed Carts. Carts [was] open for me on the back door, and I just gave it back to him.”
Voynov, on Jarret Stoll’s third period goal against St. Louis:
“It’s a nice play by Penner. He gave it back to me on the half wall in the offensive zone, and it was a great play from Stoli. [Similar to] Carts – he was open for me, and I just gave it back to him.”
Voynov, on disrupting the two-on-one late in the game:
“I think I should play better on the blue line, so I just tried the safe [play].”
Voynov, on whether he noticed any development in his game on the roadtrip:
“No change.”
VV your are awesome. Keep it up
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the young D man is way ahead on the learning bell curve……..
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luc20rules Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
@harty, Really the only reason he wasn’t with the team the entire year last year was he was the only one that was young enough to be sent down without being exposed to waivers. DS & DL eventually saw enough that they couldn’t rationalize sending him down any more and that made JJ expendable.
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Wonder if he realises just how good he is. He is moving up the ladder quickly as one of the best in the NHL. Not many d-men I would trade him for especially when you consider his age and his cap hit.
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Osaka Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
@KC23, That cap hit will go up this summer.
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CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
@Osaka, Yup, and it’ll likely mean his defensive partner, Scuderi, won’t be brought back next season. I can’t see how the Kings could bring back all three of our defensive d-men with the Cap being so low.
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PRMan Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
@CB14, Well, at least we are forced to find replacements now.
FKA PakiFro Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
@CB14,
Penner, Richardson and Gagne are off the books. That’s about 7.5 million right there. According to cap geek, the Kings have a projected 15m under the cap for next year. Hopefully that’s enough to keep Scuds while paying Voynov fairly. I don’t expect VV to play hardball after really about 100 regular season games, but you never know.
KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
@CB14, We’ll see about Scudes. If the price is right you never know. Many of us thought Mitchell might be gone for much of the same reason. Older d-men that aren’t super stars (especially stay at home types) are typically not that bad of a cap hit.
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
@PRMan, Yup, our replacements will all have a good bit of experience when they’re needed to fill in next season.
FKA PakiFro, VV probably not, but you can bet his agent will. With the added benefit that he can return to Russia if he doesn’t get the deal he wants.
The Kings have 12 players signed for next season, which means they need to fill 11 spots. 15 million to fill 11 spots isn’t going to be easy. Assuming we let those guys you mentioned walk, along with Scuds and DD2, we would still need to re-sign restricted free agents Clifford, Lewis, Nolan, VV, A-mart, Ellerby, Muzzin, and Bernier. Plus bring up 3 forwards from Manchester.
The 3 forwards from Manchester, probably Toffoli, Pearson, and Vey, all have cap hits of approximately $900,000.
Lewis will get around 1 million.
Bernier will probably be traded, but his replacement will still cost about 1 million.
A-marts going to get around 1 million.
Ellerby and Muzzin will both be around 750,000.
If Clifford keeps up this play he’ll get about 2 million, if not he’ll get 1.5 million.
Nolan will get similar to what King got last off-season, 750,000.
By my math, that’s approximately 9 million in cap space taken up by those 10 players. That leaves 6 million in Cap room left to re-sign VV and gives DL a little wiggle room in case of injuries.
If you re-sign Scuds it’s going to take about what he currently makes, 3.4 million. That would leave 3.35 million (You’d gain an additional 750,000 because Muzzin’s cap hit would be in Manchester) to re-sign VV and bring up replacements from Manchester for injured players. The question would be what will it take to re-sign VV? Subban’s cap hit is 2.875 in a short term deal after a down season. VV, so far atleast, isn’t having a down season. I’d say he’s been our best player this season. It’s going to make for an interesting off-season, that’s for sure.
xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
@CB14, Your math looks solid. Looking at upcoming free agent D-men, it’s slim pickings. Unless the Kings are willing to take a gamble on some heavily aged/ journeyman defenders or put their full trust in an up and coming stay at home type (there doesn’t appear to be one NHL ready yet) then I think it’s imperative to re-sign Scuderi for a year or two.
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
@xeropoint, It’s a tough call. If Ellerby continues his solid play, I’d be ok with letting Scuds walk. Not that I don’t like Scuds, I do, but I think we’d need the cap room to account for injuries. But if Greene and Mitchell both don’t return this season and prove they’re ready to play, I think they’d have to bring Scuds back. They can’t go into next season without Scuderi if Greene and Mitchell haven’t proven to be capable of playing.
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
@KC23, Lock him up for life…do it Deano!
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Mik3ysfv Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:36 am
@BrokeKingsFan, seriously. VV for life.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
@KC23,
Gotta keep Scuds.
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
@DesertKing, Yeah, I feel the same way. Scudes has had a rough start to the year, but he’ll be there when it counts most.
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harty Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
@KC23, some of these guys you need to secure for 2 or 3 years……….
the younger the player sometimes the longer the contract, simple process at times…..
Nolan -$750k (2 years)
Lewis -$950k (2 years)
Martinez -$1.25m (3 years)
Ellerby -$1.1m (2 years)
Muzzin -$750k (2 years)
Clifford -$2.2m (3 years)
…..that’s if all things continue as they are today and players continue to perform without injury…
luc20rules Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
@DesertKing, +1
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He’s killing it. Pay him. Don’t let him slip away like past dmen we’ve had. (Corvo, Zhitnik, etc)
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“Voynov was not credited with one giveaway on the roadtrip”… Now if Drew Doughty can just go one period without a giveaway, he might start earning his pay.
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
@NOW IMPRESSED, as one of the people pissed with drew after his contract negotiation and missing TC, I have forgot about that. He hasn’t been playing his best hockey but the guy is logging in close to 28 min on avg. he’s earning his money and has with out cup win.
Needless to say to this point I expect better play, but only because of what he has shown.
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Duncanz Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
@NOW IMPRESSED, That’s got to be erroneous.
In the 3rd period vs SLB last night he has a shift where in his own zone he inexplicably coughs the puck away twice as well as misplaying and losing it when trying to bat it under control with his glove. [If that were Ellerby (or maybe, DD) many here would be calling for his execution.] Anyway, a few seconds later he steps up and gives a perfect pass to Stolly who scores the 4th goal, instantly erasing everyone’s memory of the other stuff.
So he still gives me more confidence going forward than in his own zone.
Don’t take this as a non-endorsement of VV. I’m excited for his future here. It’s just an objective observation.
If anyone still has the game DVRed, watch that shift and tell me what you think.
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Take Doughty’s pay and give it to him…
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Any update on Martinez?
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Blue Jackets’ GM Scott Howson has been fired.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
@goldielocks, lol reaaly … lol lol
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
@goldielocks, perhaps its because he insisted on still employing the worst goaltender in the nhl steve mason ………….. u will never ever win anything with that guy
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
@phil sykes, and by the way jack johnson is not the answer howson …. lombardi hosed you ………. johnson is a fraud … a me first guy ……. never ever in his kings playing career did jack johnson layout on a 2 on 1 to block the pass ……. always just stood up and stayed right in the middle of the two players letting them do whatever they wanted ………. and yes , many other faults ,,,,,,,,, running around ………. and the best of all , jumping up so he could hit ribero without taking into account if i do so the stars will have a 3 on 1 ……….. me first guy …. and not that good of a defensive player
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neil Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
@phil sykes, just wondering…who do you like on the kings?
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
@phil sykes, everybody ……… kopitar is my favorite when healthy …. hes not right now …… this is watered down kopi due to his insistence on playing with his sibling …. poor decision ………… why besides ellerby who did i pick on ………… yea maybe muzzin ……… but i realized i was wrong to jump too soon down their throats …….. muzzin has good upside and ellerby , who knows , i might be wrong there too ……. ive already apologized profusely … perhaps youve missed it ……. yep people tune trolls out so i dont blame you if you missed it
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
@goldielocks, What took them so long? LOL
With that said, they are setup pretty good this off-season with the Kings and Rangers 1st round picks in addition to their own in what’s being called a really good draft class.
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goldielocks Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
@CB14,
Indeed.
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Save, Hrudey! Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
@CB14,
Actually, I’ve read that it is not shaping up to be a deep class at all:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2013-nhl-draft-lacks-depth-164000848–nhl.html
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Osaka Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
@CB14, Also their best prospect was lost for the season.
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Michael J. Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
@goldielocks,
Rats!
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
@goldielocks, I’d have to say that guy is probably the worst gm in the business.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
@KC23,
If they hired me, I could do better at being worse, but at least I would ne cheap.
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Duncanz Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
@goldielocks, Premature.
His (ex) club will capitalize on those fancy 2013 draft picks he nabbed them and turn into a force in the NHL.
Kind of reminds you of what AEG did to poor old TM, really..
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I’d love to have a chance to ask DL..how hard it must have been to keep him down in Manch for so long.
In hindsight it was the right move.
The kid matured at a young age learning the game with the pro’s in the AHL. Invaluable experience for Slava and the growing pains were for the Monarch fans, not Kings fans! A huge reason why we won the cup.
He’s not perfect, like getting beat to the inside against Detroit, but very few have the hockey acumen that this kid has.
Go Kings!!
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
@Nykingfan, peeps dont want to hear about any mistakes hes made ny ….. they already think hes better than doughty …….. offensively yes , everything else …… no
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
@phil sykes, Looks at Doughty’s -10 Vs Voynov’s team best +7 so far this season.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
@KC23, i dont need updates on stats …… i fully stand by my statement even if doughty is minus 100 and voynov is plus 1000 …….. all i have to do is watch them play ….. i dont need stats to tell me who a good player is ……. i like them both ……. hows doughtys quarterback rating …….. is it as good as manning or bradys ….. just curious
nykingfan Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 5:56 am
@KC23,
In DD’s defense, he’s matched up against the best forwrds every game. Playing against those type of players will lead to a lot more turnovers and mistakes
I can’t say enough about DD because I still think he’s one of the more special players on D you’ll see in this league. He has no weakness to his game.
Comparing them isn’t really fair at this stage of their careers.
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
@phil sykes, This season he has been better than DD in both areas.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
@CB14, disagree
DLB Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
@CB14, Also disagree (especially using plus minus)
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
@DLB, +/- has got nothing to do with my opinion. Just from watching them play I think VV > DD this season, but that’s fine if you disagree.
Save, Hrudey! Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
@CB14,
I would venture my 2 cents to say that DD is still the better “overall” player. However, his many mistakes (turnovers, etc) make him look as if VV is better at this point.
lol hey duncanz check out the waking up with the kings thread earlier today …….. i posted something on the rich hammond vs. jon rosen debate that i found to be quite hilarious
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
@phil sykes,
You posted something you found hilarious?
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
@kissmyblarneystones, oh yeah , i love me
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
@kissmyblarneystones,
For some reason, I find that hilarious.
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Save, Hrudey! Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
@DesertKing,
The Ducks are expected to hire Dwayne Roloson as a goalie consultant.
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Mars Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
@goldielocks, Hmmm. Are they having netminder issues?
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VV has been on fire – I love watching him play!
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One of our bloggers(Dr. Phil) called Rich’s antics….and I quote….”Hitleresque”….Dont think its funny..I dont think its needed…Idont think it should be allowed….Comparing Hitler in a hockey blog is pure stupidy….Hope to never see that kind of writing on this or any other blog…. It was on a post a couple blogs ago….
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
@Neil, yea thats right neil …. join the censorship brigade ….. its my opinion buddy ….like it or not
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Neil Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
@phil sykes, some things are not funny….
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
@phil sykes, and if you would read and digest something correctly i said hitleresque censorship campaign …………. i referenced nothing about his horrible human attrocities
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
@phil sykes,
Sorry, no one should ever be compared in any way, shape or form to Hitler other than the other WWII Axis leaders who supported mass murder and genocide. There are some things that just need to remain in the context of what they truly were and can only be compared to things of equal horror.
Michael J. Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
@phil sykes,
Read Viktor Frankl’s “A Man’s Search for Meaning” and you will never compare anything to Hitler again.
Sometimes it helps to think before one types.
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
@phil sykes, Come on dude seriously, you are a newbie here and I don’t doubt your love of the Kings but using an extreme comparison like that is…………well pretty dumb.We have seen the crap that our politicians spout, the race-baiting,name calling vitriol and class warfare that we people of the United States have endured, doesn’t need to be on this site nor does the use of terms or comparison from people of this ilk. This site has always been a relief for us all, whether it be happiness after a good win or bitching about the way our team or players are playing, most of us have been censored in the past, most have been bad words or the usual same old multiple mundane post, but in all my years of reading most of these post,I have never read a comparison like that, even from @Dunc-cans, not even Anthonyy. Lets have a good time here, we’re not politicians, we are Kings fans.
Neil Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
@Neil, It was written on the “waking up with the Kings” post…under my 10:21 post….Rich is Rich Hammonds for those who dont know…
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
@Neil, desert king ………..censorship is horror ……who knew ? thats all i was talking about
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
@phil sykes,
I understand, maybe just try to find a nicer way to get your point across. I am a strong supporter of the Constitution and teach classes about. I have travelled to Philly, Boston and DC to experience the American Revolution from the perspective of our forefathers. The 1st Amendment does guarantee you the right to write and say what you did, but also protects my ability and that of @neil to say it was in poor taste. Nothing personal, but Rich does not deserve that type of comparison.
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
@phil sykes, desertking ……. no problem if u think it was poor taste …. its just neil was saying it shouldnt be allowed on this site ….. thats what i have a problem with ………. but no worries neil and i have already kissed and made up
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
@phil sykes,
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
@phil sykes, micheal j and lvkings ………. theres nothing even remotely offensive about the phrase hitleresque censorship campaign because i am talking about hitlers censorship campaign he put on the media …….. i am talking nothing about human attrocites i say again ………… if just seeing the word hitler bothers u guys so much , well , all i can say is just chill a little ………. if u would just read my statement the way it was intended – a jab at hammonds censorshipness ……… nothing more , nothing less ………. i just didnt like hammond …….. anyways kiss and makeup ? … neil and i already have …………. we are all kings fans after all
Bonvivant Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
@Neil, @Michael J
That book changed my whole perspective on life.
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
@Neil, something tells me Jon is going to soon learn why Rich did certain things the way he did.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
@KC23, Yup! I was on moderation for EVER! I didn’t know why so I made a comment about it and Rich told me I wasn’t, it was a mystery.
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Mik3ysfv Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 9:00 am
@Neil, Lighten up
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Everyone needs to go now and listen to our President speak. Hope he talks about VV’s great play yesterday! Also, we would like a Trillion for future cap hits.
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i never understand why anyone would want to revoke the rights the united states constitution provides us ….. yet it appears neil wants to be that guy …….. since you are a kings fan however , lets forgive and forget
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Neil Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
@phil sykes, just a little sensitive to Hitler….BTW Ellerby is the best defensemen on the Kings !!!!! JK….Forgive and Forget…
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
@Neil, okay no problem
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
@Neil, yea eating crow on ellerby … he looked fine yesterday ……. but its too early to tell either way ……… i guess we have to give him some more time to see how he pans out like everyone told me ….. yep im a dummy
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
@phil sykes, Now that’s how you do it @Philly
HockeyNerd Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
@phil sykes, Whoa there buddy.
What the constitution means when you have freedom of speech is that you can, if you like start YOUR own website and THEN write any comments you want. The key word is YOU have freedom of speech.
Now I am going to explain something to you that is constantly misunderstood:
You (@phil sykes) DO NOT have “freedom of speech” ON THIS BLOG. It is not YOUR website, it belongs to the LA Kings, and THEY have THEIR freedom of speech on it because THEY OWN IT. Their freedom of speech ON THIS BLOG does not in any way shape or form apply to YOU. How could it? The LA Kings do not, by law, even have to provide this site for YOU to post. They can set their own rules and community standards. They can delete posts. YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH is not a factor in that. If you don’t like what someone says about you here, you certainly do have freedom of speech — you can pay for a URL, set up a website and post whatever and whenever you like and tell everybody how you disagree. But HERE on THIS website you have a PRIVILEGE of posting — not a RIGHT. Please understand our constitution before you lecture us on what it says you can and cannot do.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
@HockeyNerd, Harumff!
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
@LVKINGS88,
I second that Harumphh!!
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
@HockeyNerd, oh yea i get that … thats what censorship is …….. and thats all i was talking about ……….. sorry if just seeing the word hitler bothers you so much
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HockeyNerd Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
@phil sykes, Do not put words in my mouth. I didn’t say it did or didn’t. If you are bringing up censorship than no you DIDN’T get my point. Someone telling you that something you posted HERE was uncalled for has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with censorship.
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
@phil sykes, …. hockeynerd ….. uncalled for is fine .. saying it should not be allowed is what neil was saying , like i want to get this guy banned from here ……. why would u want to be that tatle tale guy is all im saying regarding a statement that was completely harmless and talking about censorship and nothing else ……………. neil and i have already kissed and made up , so how about we do that ? ……… if your goal is to get me banned from the site , then thats your perogative obviously
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
@phil sykes, I didn’t get a HARUMFF out of you.
HockeyNerd Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
@phil sykes, Who brought up anything about anyone banning anyone else? You did but I don’t know where in the world that came from all of a sudden. All anyone said about what you posted was that it was uncalled for. You could have apologized for it (or not responded at all) and left it at that, instead you invent all sorts of fiction about our motives and keep defending something using rules YOU invented. I’m perfectly fine to stick to the subject of Hockey and VV…… but at the same time if you keep posting the sky is purple I’m going to tell everyone it’s blue. That’s just me. If you can accept that, we can move on.
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
@phil sykes, hockeynerd ….. neil brought it up that it shouldnt be allowed ….. as if maybe he were gonna call the actual police or the jon rosen police …. because he was the one who really brought my post to the attention of everybody …. by basically saying , “hey everybody – read this and lets get this guy outta here ” …… nevermind that he misunderstood it or that i maybe shouldnt have said the guys name so all of this would not have taken place ………. so i was just trying to head off a possible banning campaign before it happened ………… so whatever , lets move on ……………. now with all this chatter , it may hit jon rosens desk ……. if im banned by him ………… oh well , still will never think i said anything wrong
HockeyNerd Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
@phil sykes, A word of advice: EVERYTHING posted here by ANYBODY is subject to dissection, criticism, and analysis. If you don’t want that to happen, don’t go there. Simple enough. I think you have learned that lesson the hard way tonite. And the same could be said of any thought of banning. If someone makes me angry enough and I feel the moderator needs to consider that I will report it WITHOUT posting anything. I have never done that here and I hope I never will. Don’t go there either. There is no purpose it serves except to taunt someone into doing something you do not want. He didn’t bring that up and you should not have either. I don’t think anyone is that upset. If you want to offend anyone that badly you have a long way to go yet, LOL.
SV +7 > DD -10
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Mars Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
@MmmmYummy, I dont think the +/- = 0 in this situation, the level everyone has had to adjust to is slightly different, both are playing well, some shining at different times.
Hopefully they can combine their super powers, kinda like the wonder twins!
But with some Stanly Cup rings or something.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
@Mars,
Activate!!
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Outside of JQ, DD was the best player we had last playoffs. Better than Kopi and Brown because he simply was a huge factor in every single game whilst Kopi and Brown were great in many and not noticeable in a few. DD wille be fine, we should be appreciating we have both VV and DD. As you all know, playoffs ia different season with different rules that the Kngs are built for.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
@krash324, doughty , brown kopi , voynov were all great last year in playoffs … lets not even split hairs guys ….. they were all great
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CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
@krash324, No one said VV was better than DD in last years playoffs. All that was said was that so far this season VV has outplayed DD.
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krash324 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
@CB14, not saying any different either but without DD we do not win the cup last year nor will we have chance this year
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CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
@krash324, Agreed.
Been loving Voynov’s play. I hope he continues on this path.
Glad he is seeing great ice time, most see a stat drop when going up in minutes,
he is showing he can take it with great stride.
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
@Mars, Good point on the stat drop when going up in minutes … and going up against the other team’s best which Voynov has done without too many issues. Still needs work up against the boards behind his own net and in the corners, but other than that he looks awesome.
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Told him last year, he will be a great Hockey player
Go Kings Go!
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Go Voynov!!! Voynov is a wonderful defenseman and the more experience he gets, the better he’ll become! Thank you Dean for drafting him, thank you Sutter for using him the right way. Don’t change a thing Sutter and Dean with respect to Voynov.
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Kingsfaninmonterey Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
@Kingsfaninmonterey, he has potential to be a top pairing defensemen.
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CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
@Kingsfaninmonterey, No doubt about that.
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Rangers are worse at keeping late leads than the Kings are
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xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
@Michael J., The rags with a HUGE meltdown!
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
@Michael J.,
Did anyone survive Tortarella’s press conference?
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xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
@DesertKing, Sutter: **long pause** “Someone died.”
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I seem to remember a certain blogger (not me) posting that VV would be a big benefit to the Kings right after he was called up to replace JMFJ. For 5 Insider Posting Points, can anyone name that blogger?
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Michael J. Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
@DesertKing,
Me
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
@Michael J.,
Oh, ok, then there were two of you…. who was the other? (and yes, you get only 2 points for naming yourself)
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IN King Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
@DesertKing,
I remember puck73 being one of Voynov’s biggest supporters. Not sure if it was him though.
I had by doubts about Voyvov when he came up last year….I’ve never been happier to be so wrong. The kid is the real deal.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
@IN King,
WINNER!!!!!
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IN King Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
@DesertKing,
Yeah!!!!! So what are my points good for?
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
@IN King,
5 books of Blue Chip stamps, a free bus ride to Hawaii, and the eternal (well, at least until tomorrow) respect of your fellow bloggers.
jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
@DesertKing,
OH, -saving the nachos for yourself eh?
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
@jess,
The nachos are mine and will be mine forever, or until I eat them, whichever comes first. I will share my beer, my tickets, and even my DD #8puts jersey, but never the nachos!
Michael J. Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
@DesertKing,
You kidding? It was I who convinced him of Slava’s prowess
jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
@DesertKing,
@jess & @puck73
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
@jess,
Sure, pile on
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
@DesertKing, You don’t remember all the back and forth I had with @ Dominick (who I miss) regarding JJ vs. VV??
Man, felt like it went on for months!
IN King Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
@jess,
Where is Dominick anyway? Did I miss something?
kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
@DesertKing,
GANGBANG!!!!
jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
@IN King,
Have no idea, -but I miss his take on things and wish he’d hurry up and get his tail back here
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
@Kissmyblarneystones,
LMAO
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
@IN King, he posted last night on a page, but he hasn’t been around as much as he use too.
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
@In King and @jess
@Dominck is the man! He doesn’t post often, but when he does, we should pay attemtion. I have a feeling he is watching film, compiling stats, and once he finishes his analysis, he will bust out a post that even DL is probably waiting to read so he knows what to do.
jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
@DesertKing,
haha perfect!
SLIM Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
@DesertKing,
To be quite honest
There were far more then 2 bloggers that
Thought VV was turning into a great player…
I think most of us have been pleasantly surprised at his play…
Back then and now…
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
@SLIM,
Good thing those points are free! I probably should have asked who didn’t think VV would turn out this well
)
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xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
@DesertKing, Well since everyone is taking credit… nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
@xeropoint,
#151. Next!
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
@DesertKing, Not sure but for the record, I think Anthony Stewart will be a pleasant surprise for the Kings….just as I predicted Colin Fraser was going to be a pleasant surprise last season.
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xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
@rogiesbackup, Can he play defense? Hear there’s a few open spots…
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The best way to invalidate someone who probably deserves invalidation is to ignore anything and everything they say or do…………..
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IN King Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
@Shotongoal,
I think…….you’re missing……. a……few “……”
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
@Shotongoal,
I tried that with my ex GF. She almost cut my twinking in half and tossed it in the garbage disposal.
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
@jess, that goes beyond invalidating!
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
@Shotongoal,
Yeah chicks don’t like to be ignored. I had anticipated it and countered it by sleeping with a stainless steel cod piece
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
@jess, Did you date Loreena Bobbit also?
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
@LVKINGS88,
No that chick was crazy. -Probably would’ve used a plasma cutter on my steel cod piece.
Wow I see lot’s of comparisons of DD vs. VV.
Answer: We need them both.
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
@jess, absolutely and anyone who thinks differently has a very short memory. Many here like to fall in instant love with the “new (newer?) guy” and kick their other faves to the curb. The only thing worse than losing Mitchell or Kopitar for an extended period of time would be losing Doughty, plain and simple.
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
@Shotongoal,
Yeah I agree with that. DD may not be up to speed at the moment but if we make the playoffs, we’ll need him bigtime. We have depth, everyone brings different angles to the game.
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
@jess, not many D-men in this league play 28+ minutes a night, let alone do what Doughty does on a game to game basis at both ends of the ice.
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
@Shotongoal, yeah , doughtys very good people …. why hate
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luc20rules Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:13 am
@phil sykes, People are hating the 7 million reasons a year, but he is worth it. I think by the end of the contract we will all be talking about how good a deal it was.
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
@jess,
Exactly!!
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IceGuy Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:29 am
@jess,
With Doughty – you get a a really souped up, straight ahead Mustang GT.
Voynov? More like a DB-6.
Both good at what they do.
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@PHIL, Dude I am chill! I didn’t like some people calling you @PSYCO on previous posts but I know that it’s not a hateful thing from them, it’s more of a “ok this dude is a little over the top but we will have fun with him and maybe he will get the joke” but your lack of understanding of what you said and continuing support of that……well it’s what Dustin Hoffman said in Hook…”bad form”. I have been posting on this site a lot longer than you and I’ve never seen R.Hammond censor anything,moderation maybe, and if it did happen maybe it was warranted. Sorry I won’t kiss and make-up, my girlfriend would probably leave me.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
@LVKINGS88, sorry u dont want to make up … oh well ………… by the way ive been on here forever such as yourself – just it was different screennames and hammond censored me for no reason . so ive had to start over under a different screennames a couple times now
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
@phil sykes, lvking888 ……..and i will continue to support it because i said absolutely nothing regarding attrocities or support thereof …. just talking about media censorship that a certain person was very good at back in the 1930s and 40s …. hammond too …. lol lol lol
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
@phil sykes,
See, you are doing better already!
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
@phil sykes, Da Comrade. I knew it! you are Anthonyy, maybe @Poorman. Hey I don’t have a problem with anybody here, “We are the world,we are Kings fans”. Like I said I was on moderation and even though I didn’t know why, it didn’t really bother me,maybe you have some things to work out, come clean, who are you? whatever, just have a good time here and let it go.
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
@phil sykes, FYI, posting under different screen names is probably what got you censored in the first place. You can’t do that.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
@CB14, no silly , completely differnt computer two or three times with new ip address obviously
Duncanz Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:43 am
@phil sykes, What did you get all those computers confiscated for?
jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
@LVKINGS88,
Regarding all of this. I agree that the Hammer got a bit control-freakish at times. I was in the cornfield for like two weeks once. But in hindsight, I appreciate it. It’s good to have a sight with some rules. I mean it’s like what @puck said earlier “Dude, you should see how bad the language is on the NJ Devils site!!”
-And credit to Rich, I wrote him an email stating my case, didn’t kiss his ass but was also respectful, and he took me off cornwatch
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CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
@jess, 2 weeks is nothing, try 8 months. That sucked.
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
@CB14, YOU? For real??
Mars Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
@CB14, OUCH! What for?
I got a week for all the TM Boo’s
CB14 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Yup, for real. It started in the game agaist Phoenix 2 years ago when Hanzal scored a goal that was clearly hit with a high stick. I said, “BS”, but I wrote out the full spelling of the word. It ended on the night DD signed his huge contract. I did help keep myself on moderation with my attempt at humor that Rich just didn’t get. And my TM sucks comments after game 4 (?) against the Sharks didn’t help.
jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
@CB14,
That’s a bit harsh!
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
@CB14, Heck, I thought my Insider name was LVKINGSYOURCOMMENTSINMODERATION because I was in the cornfield for so long.
xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
@CB14, Maybe it was all the Stoll bashing
Hey, nobody ever saw Hammond and Stollicoaster in the same room at the same time, just saying.
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
@jess, Yeah I don’t remember what I said or did but usually it was what I said to @Phil, same ol same ol mundane posts or language, or Anthonyy and @Poorman isms.
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
@LVKINGS88,
RE: poorman he was definitely guilty of of the redundant language but the straw was when he called rich out over some lame interview on his internet show IMO.
One can easily criticize censorship without bringing Hitler (or Stalin or Mao) or any other odious mass-murderer into the conversation. That’s what had people reacting.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
@Choralone, yep my bad i guess …………relax peeps ……jeeeeez
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
@phil sykes, HEY MAN! DON”T TELL ME TO RELAX, opps, sorry, my bad, no yelling.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
@Choralone, That…… and use of the word “censorship” in the first place. Deciding what can and can’t appear in a blog that you either own or are given the responsibility if maintaining has nothing to do with censorship.
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@Phil-listine,
It’s tough being you at the moment. Some of us, certainly me, have stepped on toes in an effort to distinguish ourselves on this blog. There are people on this blog that I would consider the old guard, guys who’ve been here since it inception. I tend not to engage them unless they engage me first. And when I do, I keep it to name, rank and serial number. Unless of course, they are just so full of s..t, that, saying nothing would be treasonous.
Rich Hammond was and is a good dude, never to be mentioned in the same breath with Hitler. This blog is his legacy and the fact that we were so well behaved in the absence of a moderator, is a testament to that legacy. I took your post the way it was intended, however, I can surely see why some others here would be offended. No harm intended. No harm done.
Peace be with you and lets cheer on the MF Kings!!!
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
@kissmyblarneystones, yep yep ……….. lets move on peeps
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
@phil sykes, DON”T TELL ME TO MOVE ON!!!, ok, moving on. I think we need a SWEET,Suite night soon.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
@kissmyblarneystones, Concur.
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xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
@kissmyblarneystones, Good, solid post. I know it’s a while between games, but let that be the END of it, please.
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Whoa! Dallas just scored one of the weirdest goals I’ve ever seen. I’m sure Puck Daddy will have something to say about it.
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Hawks playing some decent D against the Ducks.
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
@jess, wow they tied it with 2:40 left in the 3rd.
This better not be a 3 pointer.
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Guppies are self-destructing.
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
@DesertKing,
I think that was first innovated by the British Secret Service. “Self destructing guppies”
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
@jess,
LMAO! Probably a big hit at spy frat parties.
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I might have to call the producer of that show “Horders”. I have a hunch if they head over to my good friend @DesertKing’s house, they will find tray after tray of nachos piled to the ceiling in every room.
How can you live like that? (!)
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
@jess,
Its easy. If you eat all of the nachos, then you only have empty trays. Did you know that 1,000 stacked empty trays is only 3 feet high? By the way, do you know how to get cheese stains out of a carpet?
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
@DesertKing, is it velveeta?
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
@jess,
No way dude, Costco, the bjg cans!
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
@DesertKing, I heard that Denny’s has good Nacho’s, have you had them?
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
@LVKINGS88,
Cant stay up that late to eat there. Never been in a Dennys before 2am and the ones I did go to I don’t remember too much other than a real nig headache later that morning.
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
@LVKINGS88,
“Big headache” I hate smartphones.
Duncanz Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:52 am
@DessertKing, I was about to ask if that’s the sort of thing you teach in your Constitution classes..
jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
@jess,
I will fill in @DK’s answer for him cause I already know: “Easy. -They’re all mine!!”
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Mars Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
@jess, LOL does he save one cheesy chip from each order as a memento?
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
@Mars,
Only from.the Kings games. The nacho from 06/11/12 has its own special place on a gold stand on the fireplace mantle next to my picture of Luc wearing those cheese colored early Kings jerseys.
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Dear Mr Rosen….
I enjoy the work you are doing here….
The rules for this blog are printed on the side…
No political statements…
No name calling…
Don’t use multiple user names..And others…
Some of these rules have been blatantly broken…by recent statements…
I have been moderated by Rich as well…And rightly so…
I come on here to read about our Kings..
Not to see what we have going on today…..
Thank you for listening..
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SLIM Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
@SLIM,
OH ….And the Ducks suck…..
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
@SLIM, Vitriol.
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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
@SLIME,
Party Pooper!
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Save, Hrudey! Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
@SLIM,
Thanks. Was getting tired of it myself.
Thought this was supposed to be a site about the LA Kings.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
@Save, Hrudey!, i tried to drop it a long time ago but people keep wanting to talk about some harmless comment …….. the lil old lady committee …. peeping threw her window and reporting needless things to the cops or community leaders
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
@phil sykes, Hey! how do you know If I’m a lil old lady or not? who’s been peeping in who’s window?
Save, Hrudey! Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
@phil sykes,
Sometimes, it’s that little ol’ lady neighbor though that saves the nearby house from being burglarized.
Are you trying to ban all lil old ladies now?
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
@SLIM, see what im saying hockeynerd .. people trying to get me banned …… and it wasnt a political statement ………..it was a censorship statement ………. and no for the last time not multiple user names …….. 2 or 3 different computers , brand new computers – trashing the old one …. so therfore my ip adress was different and hammond would therefore have no clue it was the same person ……. so i started up again …. coming in here ………. never at any time would i have for example a phil sykes name and then try to post under a different name , and have two or three names on the blog that were actaully the same person …………. besides hammond would have caught that anyway by seeing the same ip address
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
@phil sykes, Nobody wants you banned……you’re @Dunc-canz favorite late night posting partner.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
@LVKINGS88, read slims statement above
kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
@LVKINGS88,
I do
Duncanz Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 1:09 am
@kissmypartystains, party pooper..
xeropoint Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
@SLIM, Is it weird that when I read your posts, I can hear it in Jim Fox’s voice? You know…
The way he’ll trail off his sentences…
Up and down, back and forth…
Trying to sort things out…
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
@SLIM, +1
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KingsATX Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
@SLIM, Wow, things have devolved here. For me, terminally diminished.
My last post: GKG!
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What’s up with all the 3 point games?
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
@Cav Pilot,
Its a 3-3 league?
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@PSYKES, heck that’s just @SLIMS way of posting,he has to come up with lots of words for all those lines he writes.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
@LVKINGS88, and blarney
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Let’s get this thing back on track. Caption this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5064721215_9fc91452a5_m.jpg
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jess Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
@xeropoint,
“On TV Mr. President, -you look much smaller..”
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Duncanz Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
@xeropoint,
Get back, get back
Get back to where your butts belong …
… Sorry Bob, little trouble reading the lyrics here … Was that right..?
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The best thing about Voynov and what makes him arguably our best defensemen this season is his consistency. He plays his game & he is always striving to play his game better. Never doubted VV taking over for JJ. A Norris trophy is a real possibility for VV as his ceiling is unlimited.
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the floggin 3 poin games continue ….. jeeeez
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King Alex Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
@phil sykes, that’s Evil Load Bettman’s mystical, magical point.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
@King Alex, man back in my day u lost in overtime = 0 points …. this is so lame ……………. and then i have to hear people like bob say “this is the 4th best kings season ever” or something like that …. or quick most wins ever in a season or whatever
…. memo to bob and anybody else …….. everybodies record is inflated by about 10 points compared to the way it used to be ……. because these days if you lose in overtime u get a point .. which happens typically about 3 times per year to a team in a full season give or take ….. and if u win an average of 7 shootouts a year give or take ……… anyways everybodies record is bloated by about 10 points on average , yet most of the media people are like its the 2nd most points ever or whatever . implying its the second best team , when thats not the case …. the rules of the game have changed
back in the 80s – 100 points was the gold standard ….. and only 3 or 4 teams had that every year back then …… now everyone and thier grandmother has 100 points ……. and 5 games above 500 was considered a pretty good record because a loss was a loss , even in overtime
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
@phil sykes, I’ll take the 3 pt situation and shoot outs over boring ties any time. Watched tie games for a couple of decades and I’m not willing to go back, ever. Still haven’t heard a better solution.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:40 pm
@KC23, we still have a third column – back then it was ties …. which u earned ……now the third colomn is for losing shootouts and overtime sessions … yet u still get a point ………
if a third column is going to be used id much rather have it be for a tie ………….. and when u lost in the overtime session – you lost … 0 points …. heartbreaking the way it should be 5 on 5 …. not the 4 on 4 circus ………………
and then of course not having the game end in 1 point for both teams ……but to give an extra fantasy point for a breakaway contest ……… hate it…… not necessarily the breakaway contest …. but the way it inflates everybodies record , as well as losing in overtime session
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luc20rules Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
@phil sykes, I have been saying that since they gave 3 pt games for OT/SO. Overall pt records really don’t mean anything anymore. 20 years ago a team with a incredible record would have 95pts now they would have 110 pts. Its also kind of sick how after the midpoint of the season you see many teams playing for the OT just to assure themselves of a pt. We actually have 4 columns now Reg Wins, Wins, Losses, and OT Losses. Its too late now the casual fans like SO too much.
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
@phil sykes, luc ………. yeah but reg wins is not a real coloumn … so 3 ….. but anyways , yea i know ……. its a joke ……..
just hate it when bob and media types pull out the old ………… this is the teams 4th best point total ever wooohooo …… implying its the 4th best team ever ….. when thats not the case
i thought bob was above all that false pr stuff , but apparently not ……… of course hes not the only one that does it ………. just about all of them do – the media folks
luc20rules Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:05 am
@phil sykes, Regulation Wins is one of the highest tie breakers. Toward the end of the season espn.com & NHL.com start to show it in the standings.
Duncanz Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 2:02 am
@luc20rules, Ok, close your eyes for a moment and come for a ride with me in my time machine.
It’s 20 years ago, ’93, and we don’t have an excellent hockey blog, so you’re reading the Hockey News ‘letter’s to the editor’ section and an old time hockey guy writes in – let’s call him ‘luc1920rules’ – and he says that due to stupid expansion, more games in a season and the change in formats (not to mention outrageous curved stick restrictions) points don’t mean a thing anymore!
What do you write back and tell this fella’?
KC23 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
@phil sykes, I do agree with you on the stats thing. The one that bugged me the most was Quick’s wins records. Shoot out wins should not be counted in the all time stats record without an asterious.
Wow, I remember getting blasted for defending this kid in the playoffs last year when a couple of freakish bounces went off him for goals. Also when stating that he was going to be more stable than JJ after the trade. I never annoited him a future Norris Trophy winner, but the kid understands positioning and is lightning quick with a good wristshot and exceptional passing skills. He is smallish and maybe pushed by bigger forwards, but as long as he ties up the opponents stick I won’t be critical, and thats what he did in the playoffs. I liken him to a better version of Visnovsky plays with more grit too.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:27 pm
@luc20rules, u live in santa clarita right
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luc20rules Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
@phil sykes, No Westminster.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
@luc20rules, oh well i remember like lomardis first year as gm some woman in lil ceasars out here had a license plate that said luc rules or something .. so i went off on her about lombardi …. saying what a dope he was for just trading for cloutier and signing over the hill blake ….. and that taylor and lieweike werent any better for wanting trash roenick the year before ……… she said but roenick was good in the locker room ……… i just laughed
luc20rules Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:02 am
@luc20rules, Your right, Roenick wasn’t good anywhere for the Kings. As for Cloutier that came with Crawford. I still think Cloutier is Crawford illegitimate son. Its the only way I can reason how he was starting over Garon/LaBarbara/well anybody including the 45 year old trainer that was the emergency backup goalie that one game.
Best defenseman on the team, and increasing the differential between him and the others with each game he plays.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
@rick, i think doughtys a better defensive player ……. and just skates away from every forechecker if he even has the littliest space ….. voynov has a better offensive touch i agree ……….
but everything else no way ……. doughtys a stud …. best puck possesion guy in the league for a defensemen …… once hes got it in the defensive zone , with even the littliest of space , boom , he is gone , nobodies getting it from him 99 percent of the time………. puck possession is extremely important … yeah , it dosent translate into points or goals for doughty , but it helps the team beyond words ….. just my opinion
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
@rick, i think doughtys a better defensive player ……. and just skates away from every forechecker if he even has the littliest space ….. voynov has a better offensive touch i agree ……….
but everything else no way ……. doughtys a stud …. best puck possesion guy in the league for a defensemen …… once hes got it in the defensive zone , with even the littliest of space , boom , he is gone , nobodies getting it from him 99 percent of the time………. puck possession is extremely important … yeah , it dosent translate into points or goals for doughty , but it helps the team beyond words ….. just my opinion
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phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
@phil sykes, sorry … oooooops double post …. my apologies
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luc20rules Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
@phil sykes, DD needs to improve getting his shot through traffic. That is the weak spot in his game. You are right he has the size, speed, quickness, and instincts. I would like to add offseason conditioning, but hopefully that light comes on some day.
phil sykes Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
@phil sykes, luc .. hes doing the pull drag move at the point now and letting the wrister go …….. the way he scored aginst smith in the clinching game vs phoenix to tie the score at 2 …….. if youve noticed hes continuing to do that new wrinkle this year as well ….. just get it thru to the net …. even if its soft ……… pull drag – so instead of it being online with the oncoming defenders shinpads as he is coming out to block the lane , it now goes between the stick and leg of defender and gets thru …….. hes been doing this ever since he scored on smith that way in game 5
…………. its just this year it hasnt resulted in a goal ………. but its effective for rebound or deflection or screen like against smith ………. so anyways , yes , hes working on his offensive game ….. for the reason i just stated
Pili Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 5:25 am
@phil sykes, I agree DD’s a great skater and stick handler, and has superb instincs on where to go with the puck, via carrying or passing. Love 26 as well, no need to compare as we have a fantastic pair of young defensemen. Two straight good games, even if we only got 2 points out of them, it seems the Kings are headed in the right direction. For what it’s worth, not sure what your name was before but you add a lot of interest to this blog, not that it was a glaring need but I enjoy your posts.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
@Pili, yea i dont need to compare them …. its just everybody else seems to want to ….. so i thought id break it down …………… anyways , there should be zero worries about how drew doughty , voynov or scuderi play the game ……… they are 3 of the best in the league ……. enough said ……. we have other real problems to worry about like the 3 kids on defense , and kopis knee ……………….. now those are real problems
and thanks for the compliment ……….. and no , its not me people … just somebody who dosent mind what a write
like years ago when hammond first banned me ….. my name was …. clippers of the nhl
because i complained about lombardi all the time ….. and then peeps would call me an idiot and then fights would ensue ………. i told hammond … they start it … im not supposed to defend myself when they call me an idiot just because i have an opinion
……………… so anyways , i was clippers of the nhl …….. i was also some other name that i dont even remember like 1 or 2 ago when i got my second computer .. but that only lasted a week before hammond banned me again for another fight i got into ………… now this is my third computer ….. and now i am phil sykes
i just want to let everybody know this guy fasth on anaheim is the real deal ….. hillers job is gone ………… fasths shoulder pads look illegal to me as they appear to jet upwards ….. id like an inspection nhl ………. it will be much tougher for us to score on him than hiller ………….. just letting everybody know ….. the guy is real good
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luc20rules Reply:
February 12th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
@phil sykes, Its to early to make that statement. Hiller looked just as good if not better starting out. For that matter so did Mason 2yrs back at Cmb, or Elliott last year for St Louis. Has Fasth even played 10 games yet? With goalies if there is a weakness it takes a while before its exposed and shooters go for specific areas.
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Duncanz Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 2:22 am
@luc20rules, 6-0 now and not many weaknesses. Mr Hayward tonight even compared him in style to King Henrik, at one point. That’s Vezina potential status, if you give any credibility to it.
Blanked PK88 from the scoresheet for the first time in -/’13, too.
Go Ducks …….. I mean, Good read, @sykes …….. yeah …….. just my opinion ……
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 9:20 am
@Duncanz, I give absolutly no credit to anything Homer Hayward says…The guy is the biggest useless tool in the shed!
KC23 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:32 am
@phil sykes, Yep, looks real good to me as well. Like the King’s they have two good goalies.
The problem with the Ducks will come over the course of the season and into the playoffs. The Ducks have no depth. Soon as they lose a key player, they’ll be a vast difference in their effectiveness.
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bbb7 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 11:48 am
@phil sykes, I admit he’s looked great but the NHL players don’t yet have a book on him and lots of guys look good their first few games…think of the number of guys who’ve gotten their first NHL win against the Kings while resembling Vezina, only to be solved later by the league.
Hard to imaging a 30yo rookie would have been ignored this long by NHL scouts if he was that great, so we’ll see in another month or two.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
@bbb7, the guy is good ……….. ive watched him every game and hes very big with his size and illegal shoulder pads . hardly any space …………. i dont care if hes only played 6 games ……. i can tell hillers job is gone ……. fasth is a beast ……….and he will still be a beast 106 games from now ….. im telling everybody now , the guy is real good ……….. ellerby , who knows whats going to happen there – its too early ………… but with faust , i can tell this guy is real good and here to stay ……… and im usually pretty good about noticeing these things ………..
but anyways , if im wrong , im wrong ….. but i dont think i will be on this one ………………. hes like crawford elliot and rinne – big in goal so the way to beat him is going to try and see if he has weak feet like the 3 above that i just mentioned …….. crash the net and get him scrambling around post to post ……… thats probably going to be the only consistent way to beat him ……. and the kings are doing that now offensively – crashing the net – just throwing the pucks there and creating chaos ……… so keep it up kings – thats the only way you are going to beat faust consistently
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luc20rules Reply:
February 14th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
@phil sykes, He is 5’11′
I freakin love this kid! What a pickup by Dean Lombardi. The sky is the limit for this guy. What an incredible defense we have. Even with the injuries I think we still have the best defense in the NHL. I’d love to see Muzzin or Campbell step up and provide this team with homegrown defense.
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luc20rules Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
@Mik3ysfv, I won’t credit the D with the current play of the Kings. The Forwards have picked it up big time with the forchecking. The best D right now for the Kings is a puck possessing/forechecking offense.
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@phil spykes, Fasth; so you’re saying he’s not really ….. Hilleresque, then?
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 11:05 am
@Duncanz, I see what you’ve done there.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
@Duncanz, yea when i wrote hiller on the original post . i was gonna make a joke since its so close …. but i figured i better not given what happened and the sensitivity around here
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Voynov game 3 of the WCF against PHX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcjXU0kkHVY
This is when I knew Slava was special. Some I remember criticized him of this play, he took an unnecessary risk…. Now you all know how I love defensive or responsible hockey, this was nothing but brilliant.
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KC23 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:40 am
@Osaka, Was at the game and my jaw hit the floor watching him below the other team’s goal line playing keep away and out numbered at such an important time of the game. I remember thinking at first … what the heck is he doing down there. Followed by … holy geez, he gonna kill out the clock all by his lonesome. That was awesome to watch.
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I mentioned this above in a reply to a post….
people who are comparing VV and DD are not understanding the true picture. DD gets matched up every game against the opposition’s top players. When the Kings are on the road and don’t have the luxury of the last change to matchup forwards, DD and Scuds will always be out ther against the Thornton’s, Getzlaf’s, etc..There’s a petty good reason why both TM and DS trust him with that responsibility.
These players will cause turnovers and a negative +/-..they’re not the bst for nothing, but DD holds his own and a lot more every night. He’s a special player and any team would give up their left nut for a guy like him. Reg shift, PP, PK…he does everything and has no weakness.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:14 am
@nykingfan, Good point, but that -10 is just not good at all. Yes it’s somewhat misleading but it also HAS to come down…….
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
@HockeyNerd, it’s only been 11 games and if you look at the goals that have been scored when Doughty’s on the ice how many have actually happened as a result of a bad play by him? I can only think of maybe 4 goals where I thought Doughty made a bad play and that directly resulted in the goal being scored. Mostly so far this season the Kings have allowed goals because the forwards didn’t cover the scorer as they should or Quick didn’t make the saves that he made last season. Also, when you’re playing monster minutes and your team is giving up way more than they’re getting your +/- is the one that’s going to suffer.
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nykingfan Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:40 am
@HockeyNerd,
I agree..there’s a lot of room for improvement from both he and Scuds. Their coverage in the D-zone has been poor at times leading to goals, but ppl were comparing DD & VV and I don’t think it’s fair because of their different responsibilities.
I don’t think any team in hockey has a more impressive 1-2 on D that are as young as our 2.
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KC23 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:42 am
@nykingfan, Doughty and Scudes are slow starters, but in the end when it matters most is when they’ll both be playing their best which few can match.
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My internets acting funny, but im pretty sure i got the right start time here. anyways, this is my favorite voynov moment..have never seen this play before, but it was siiiiiick!!
http://youtu.be/dY9dfqAC4qQ?t=6m15s
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vinny Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 7:35 am
k, definitely the right time, but its quick, so pay attention if youre watching!
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I remember when the biggest question about the King’s defense is who needs to replace who, not which great defenseman is better than which. I couldn’t care less what anybody thinks about who is better between DD and Voynov. I just hate question like, who we gonna get to replace Jones.
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Loktionov is recalled from Albany. Good luck.
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While watching NHL Tonight with last night’s game highlights, I was amazed at the horrible defense and goaltending in those games. If the Kings can get back to 90% of what they showed in the playoffs, no one will be able to stop them. Once they get their conditioning at top level, and get their timing and focus back, we will see them overtake the rest of the league. This should happen just after the halfway mark and run right into the playoffs.
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Michael J. Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 9:02 am
@DesertKing,
I’ll see you and raise that bet – if the Kings play merely resembles how they played Sunday and Monday they will be fine – probably 4th to 6th in Conference.
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Save, Hrudey! Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
@DesertKing,
I mostly concur.
However, let us not forget that while the Kings begin to regain their timing and conditioning……so does every other team out there.
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I guess it’s never too early for this: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/LosAngeles.html
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fsd1 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 9:14 am
@KC23, Dude, I need advil after that! lol
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 9:23 am
@fsd1, dude…long time no post. good to see your still here
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fsd1 Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 10:05 am
@BrokeKingsFan, thanks, trying to stay out of the fray of all the newcomers, just a guy with a glass that is 3/4 full now cause that stanley cup fills it up! Good to hear from you!
BTW, Sharks have lost 6 in a row while only scoring seven goals in those games.
Yes, there is a chance…
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phil sykes Reply:
February 13th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
@Michael J., yea but 3 were in ot ……. so its really only like 3 in a row
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During the trend up or down, people are “streaky”. Glad to see VV getting both streaky and trending up when we need him. Not a big dman so he’s proving himself to play smart like Lidstrom.
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The trade of Jack Johnson brought us Jeff Carter and a full time Slava Voynov…..arguably the Kings two best players so far in this young season. Thanks JJ!!!
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