The numbers aren’t particularly pretty as the Kings have opened their Cup defense with a 3-4-2 record through nine games.
Gabriel Bourque’s goal 2:54 into the game Thursday night was the fifth consecutive game that the Kings allowed a first period goal, and the third time in four games that they allowed a goal in the first three minutes. After nine games, L.A. has been outscored 10-4 in the first 20 minutes. Third periods haven’t been much kinder to the Kings, who have been outscored 8-4 in the final frame. The team’s minus-8 goal differential is the second-worst in the Western Conference through the first three weeks of the season, leading only Columbus.
Jarret Stoll has started off slowly for the second consecutive season, which is uncharacteristic for the veteran center. With one goal in nine games, his point production is off his generally effective early season pace. Though the sample size varies, here is a look at his stats out of the gate since he earned a regular spot in the NHL:
2012-13: 9 GP, 1-0=1
2011-12: 14 GP, 1-2=3
2010-11: 19 GP, 7-10=17
2009-10: 19 GP, 7-11=18
2008-09: 22 GP, 7-5=12
2007-08: 10 GP, 0-1=1
2006-07: 13 GP, 4-8=12
2005-06: 17 GP, 5-9=14
2003-04*: 12 GP, 4-3=7
*Played first game of the season on 10/25/03; didn’t appear in another game until 11/10/03
Though they’ve generally forechecked efficiently early in the season, the trio of Stoll, Dwight King and Trevor Lewis has combined for one point – Stoll’s first period goal in Anaheim last Saturday. In last year’s playoffs, the three linemates combined for 10 goals and 22 points in 20 games.
Stoll obviously has much more to offer than goal scoring ability; his 31 hits currently lead the team. Ranking second and third on that list are Kyle Clifford (30) and Jordan Nolan (26). Though they’re one of five teams yet to play 10 games this season, the Kings rank eighth in the league with 265 hits. Last season, they finished second in the league in that category.
By winning 25 of 58 faceoffs Thursday night, L.A.’s faceoff percentage dropped to 48.0%, the 23rd best rate in the league. Sunday’s opponent, Detroit, ranks third with a 53.7% faceoff success rate. San Jose has been among the most dominant faceoff teams in the league since the last lockout, having finished either first or second in the league in that statistic since 2008-09. They currently rank second in the league with a 56.8% success rate.
More notes and analysis to come in the morning.
dang where is everybody …. i guess the fact weve scored one fluke goal (brown back glass freak bounce) in 125 minutes of hockey against nashville has got everybody depressed
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puck73 Reply:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
@phil sykes, Not true. Many of us have to work early in the morning or end up out on the streets. Thats the harsh reality of middle class today Phil.
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phil sykes Reply:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
@puck73, lol …. okay , i had no idea …. people have to work ….. really …. who knew
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This team doesnt know how to win or want to win games..I wont be shock if they dont even make the playoffs.
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curtis Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 11:13 am
@KingsFanFTW, agree KingsFan…
Losing Greene & Mitchell certainly hurt, but this team plays w/ very little passion in my eyes. I think all passion was used up for our Cup run.
it’s not JUST lack of scoring…..this team is giving a 50% effort in all phases of hockey from the goaltender on out.
To me, they just appear to be a team worn out. Cup hangover, lockout…..all may be the reason. But until all 23 guys change their effort & their attitude, 14th place, here we come. I had hoped this team had more pride, but after rewarding EVERYONE $wise from the GM on down, this team is no longer hungry.
It’s embarrassing….
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Missed tonight’s game, totally bummed I can’t see every game. Well anyway, let’s get them in Detroit. There’s always the sun.
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Skooma Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 12:48 am
@Mikey J., You didn’t miss much
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Cav Pilot Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 6:34 am
@Mikey J., I wished I missed it. Totally depressing.
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Cesar A Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 8:24 am
@Mikey J., Our defense better be tight against Detroit. Otherwise it will be a rout like the one from last year.The lack of offense is making the defensemen overplay the puck and play out of position. Kopitar, Richards, Carter, and Brown must step up their game against Detroit if the Kings expect to win. Our poor offense is “infecting” our defense.
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It’s safe to say that by looking at the numbers you have provided Jon, we need a lot of improvement everywhere & by everyone.
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i wonder if ovie is available…(?)
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phil sykes Reply:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
@variable, lol yea im just waiting for that one to finally come up around hockey circles
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variable Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 12:06 am
@phil sykes,
hehe…
out of all the super, duper stars…i think he could be dealt…and…btw…we CAN afford him…i already did the math…:)
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phil sykes Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 12:10 am
@variable, nah , theyd want somebody like doughty or kopitar …. no thanks
Yep – trade everybody!
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Just look at this way, we’re only 10 points from first place considering Kings haven’t won too many games. They can chip away at that slowly and many times teams some teams just blossom too early while others blossom late and you know which of those two all teams prefer!!!
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My final post of the year as I have decided not to purchase Center Ice and will no longer be able to watch the Kings games.
Over the past couple of days I’ve seen @CB14 share many well thought out observations on this site and even though I haven’t agreed with everythings he says, he seems to “get it” better than most here. Muzzin and DD2 are not the problem. Scuderi is no where near the player he was two years ago and is not even close to being a top-two d-man. WM is not going to save this team. Last season he was he barely wired together between knee injuries and concussion problems. Without him we wouldn’t have won the Cup. VV really needed him last season. VV is much better now and has been the Kings best d-man this season. AM should be playing with DD1 as he (AM) was statiscally the top possesion Dman in the entire NHL last season. I’m not crazy about stats but AM made Greene look better than he really is and AM is ready to be a top-two dman. He is not the best fit with VV who at this point should probably be paired with Scuderi until Muzzin takes the next step. Muzzin can eventually be an effective top-four guy.
The Kings biggest problem is Quick. He simply hasn’t been that good this year. Last year he was tremendous but that was last year.
The second biggest problem is that three of the top six forwards can’t score goals. JW,MR, and take your pick, Penner, Gagne, King, Clifford. Richards is acceptable as a top six forward because of his grit and leadership-but just barely. When two of your top four wingers can’t score goals you’ve a got a serious problem. Toffoli and maybe Pearson will fill those roles next season but aren’t yet ready. The bottom two lines are good enough but the Kings will get no real scoring out of either of them so it all comes down to the top six forwards scoring-wise and the Dmen. Teams know DD1 is a scoring threat to they work at taking that away from him.
DB is not really a scorer but is an effective top six forward when skating and hitting. The scoring now falls pretty much to Kopi who has been a bit sub par and Carter. There is simply not enough scoring potential in the top six and with Quick under performing, the result is pretty predictable.
DL has brought the Kings the Cup. I’m not down on DL he’s done a great job in bringing in talent that helped those already drafted (JQ,Kopi,DB) He has also drafted with limited success. Hickey 1st round, Lewis 1st round, Teubert 1st round, Moller 2nd round. You need to do better with your 1st round picks. He hit the jackpot with VV but drafted him only after the guy he really wanted on the second round (Tichonov) was taken ahead of VV by Phoenix. Yes, DD1 was a great pick but a pretty obivious one. The point is DB has not drafted a power forward who can score. He has not drafted or developed to date, a couple of big phyical defenesmen who are top four players. The Kings are currently suffering from not having those type of players.
The Kings need to be patient with their young D-men. JQ has proven he’s a top goaltender. Kopi and Carter are still young enough and can score. I don’t think the Kings are going to win it again this season. I hope DL doesn’t panic and unload valuable young assests. Some of the older players need to be phased out but, in general, the future still looks very bright.
Good luck Kings fans. Maybe see you here again next season!
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Cav Pilot Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 6:56 am
@Crown Royal, Interesting assessment, I generally agree with you.
However, I believe that the root of the problems are mostly defensive. Here’s the bottom line…good defense begets good offense. The loss of Mitchell and Greene has had a huge impact on the Kings overall game. Now, having said that, even with a solid D corps, the offense still needs to finish. As big and strong as many of the Kings forwards are they should be crashing the net rather than taking low percentage shots from the perimeter (what we saw last night).
I must admit that I’m not ready to give up on this team quite yet. Remember how you felt after that road loss the the Red Wings in the middle of the season when the Kings snatched defeat from the jaws of victory? It seemed like the team had no heart and even making the playoffs was just a pipe dream, kind of like now.
It’s not over, but thinks need to change around here pretty Quick.
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Crown Royal Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 7:17 am
@Cav Pilot,
The Kings were a poor offensive team last season. They were better defensively last year than now and part of that is the PK where Jm and MG are mostly missed but more about JQ not standing on his head.
Towards the end of last season Ken Hitchcock (Blues) was talking about the biggest difference in the NHL now as opposed to when he was last a head coach. He basically said that now teams must be faster defensively. I don’t like Hitchcock but he was right. The game gets faster every year. The Kings young D-men are mobile which bodes well for the future. I don’t think JM and MG are as important now five on five as most people would like to believe. They are extremely important on the PK particulary on a poor offensive team like the Kings which wins with defense and goaltending.
Yes, the big forwards need to crash the net. I’ve been happy with Nolan and Clifford but King has not gotten better and hasn’t played as hard as when he came up last season. JP is always an enigma wrapped in a mystery. He may still help before the season is over but as soon as the Kings get a better option they should probably cut ties with him. DB was playing out of his mind at the end of the season and through the playoffs until Hanzal boarded him in the semi-finals in Phoenix. He hasn’t been the same player since that hit.
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Kyle Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 8:16 am
@Crown Royal,
You can always tell the difference between someone who is defensive minded and offense minded. To put the biggest blame on Quick and chalk up the horrible scoring production to “well the offense was poor last year too” is ignorant. I agree that Quick has not been as good this year, thus far, as he was last year, but to say he is the biggest problem is unfair. Poor defense (especially in the slot) and lack of scoring are the two biggest problems. To expect your goalie to have an MVP nominated year and “stand on his head” in order for your team to be over 50% is unfair. He shouldn’t have to carry the team on is back every year in order to make the playoffs. That does not make for a good TEAM. So he isn’t having the best start to the season and all of a sudden that makes him the biggest problem? That is a truly horrible assessment and any real athlete will tell you that you are wrong with that call. Yes, he needs to improve, but biggest problem on the team? No. Poor defense and lack of scoring are the biggest problems. Period.
California Royalty Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 7:57 am
@Crown Royal, The only thing I read from your post was Quick hasn’t been good.
Are you serious? So if he doesn’t get a shutout or God forbid let’s in 2 goals, he’s not good?
His defense has been terrible in front of him.
The Olympics are in a year from now, you don’t think he’s the starting goalie for USA?
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Crown Royal Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 8:08 am
@California Royalty,
Last season JQ was outstanding. This season he had not been that good. If he plays like he did last year he should be the starting goalie for team USA.
If the only thing you got out of my post was that Quick hasn’t been good, then perhaps you should re-read it.
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puck73 Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 10:12 am
@Crown Royal, So much for my..”Last post Kings fans”. Heres a suggestion…How bout this..Dont announce your going to do, or dont do anything. As we have already seen, you cant keep your word.
Crown Royal Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 10:04 am
@Kyle
I think your comment is ignorant as you clearly don’t understand what I was saying. JQ set the bar very high last year. He’s the number one reason the Kings won the Cup last year. I’m not blaming Quick for the Kings losing but pointing out the biggest problem the Kings have now which is that he is not giving the Kings the superior goaltending they need to win. The defense is not as bad as people are saying. It has not been good but the Kings are losing too many key faceoffs in their own end. The forwards are not always covering properly and JQ is not making the saves he made last year.
Anybody who truly understands the game will tell you that your goaltender has to be your best penalty killer. JQ has not been that this year despite missing JM and MG on the PK.
This team is built around goaltending. JQ was great last season and is not so far this season. The scoring was a huge problem last year as it continues to be, if you think otherwise I must conclude you simply don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Crown Royal Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
@Puck73,
In saying this was my last post I meant it to mean that I would not post anything again this season after this topic. I fully expected there to be comments to which I planned to respond. I don’t recall “giving my word” about anything so how can I not be keeping my word?
Puck, I think you’re a good guy and mean well but I recall asking you on three seperate occasions to stop texting me. You continued to do so until I asked you the fourth time to stop. Why did I have to ask you four times to respect my wishes?
Kyle Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
@Crown Royal,
You’re kind of a disgrace to Kings fans by stating that Quick is the biggest problem and scoring slumps and lack-luster defense are just smaller issues. Once again, any true athlete would never blame a goaltender for losing. I never stated he was great this season but there are far bigger problems than him. Obviously the organization agrees more with me than you because of the fact that Quick still starts every game but they are making trades for more defense-minded defenders.
And it isn’t ignorant of me to take the words “the Kings biggest problem is Quick” any way other than you stated it. He should be able to have an off game every so often and the team should still be able to score and maybe even win.
And if you think I said scoring wasn’t or isn’t a huge problem then YOU simply don’t know what you are talking about.
Kyle Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
@Crown Royal, Oh and get your initials right. It is WM… not JM. Last I checked Willie didn’t start with a J.
Larry Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 7:58 am
@Crown Royal, I respect your opinion but disagree with you when you say the Kings biggest problem has been Quick. I agree that he was better last year than this year but to say he is the biggest problem is unfair. The lack of D especially with wide open shots from the slot is a big problem and the lack of consistant scoring (unless against teams like CBJ) are the 2 biggest problems we have right now. Please remember that Quick was the reason they made the playoffs last year and the Kings were unable to score. Then fast forward to this year and he is struggling more and all of a sudden he is the biggest problem? Any athlete will tell you that you never put blame on the goalies for lack of production and wins. It is unfair to expect Quick to carry the team on his back every year in order to be successful. That does not make for a quality TEAM. Like I said, I agree that he has not been as dominant this year, thus far, as he was last year but unless we are stronger on D and start scoring more, you cannot expect your goalie to be your savior every time. Saying he is the biggest problem is incorrect.
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Crown Royal Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
@Larry,
Quick did carry the team on his back last season. This team has been pretty average last season and this season when he does not…
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Crown Royal Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
@Kyle,
You consider me a discrace as a Kings fan but you are like many on this site who think you understand the game better than you do. You obviously have difficulty in expressing yourself in a polite way or you would have no need to call another persons comments “ignorant” simply because they express opinions than your own. I feel sorry for you.
Kyle Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
@Crown Royal,
Oh that’s right. I forgot… you are the only person on this site that knows anything about hockey and the Kings. The rest of us know next to nothing and our opinions that differ from yours are incorrect. If you are not prepared for someone to debate you on a topic then don’t post an essay like you did in the first place. Any true sports fan is passionate about their beliefs and the fact that I did not use any curse words or name calling you still seemed to get your feelings hurt with the word “ignorant.” Sorry, your skin is thinner than I thought.
crashin'da net Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
@Crown Royal, good assessment. we can’t keep blaming our D-man te few times they allow 1 or two goals. that will happen. especially now w/ a bunch of youngbloods in there. Our BIGGEST problem has ALWAYs been SCORING. 5on5, 5on4, 5on3, 5on2, 5on1,…our top six, no mak e that nine, are just way too streaky and some are just perenially cold. If we cannot product 3 goals per game, we are toaast. We all know Quick saved our bacon last year. Perhaps he just won;t be able to do it again this year. I’m sure we will all blame him for only being stellar and not his normal God-like self.
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Oh hey Mediocrity! It’s Los Angeles here.
I guess I’ll see you at the draft? I’ll be near the front of the line.
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Wilmonde Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 9:06 am
@California Royalty, Columbus will be at the front with our pick.
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California Royalty Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 9:31 am
@Wilmonde, Haha oh yes… Terrific
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puck73 Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 10:31 am
@Wilmonde, Thats true. Remember though, we did draft Tanner Pearson who is having a good first year at Manchester.
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Back to the Kings of years past
Go Kings Go!
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I can just feel DL getting ready to pull the trigger. It’s in the air.
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Kyle Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 8:22 am
@KC23, I agree. It’s a little scary but something needs to be done.
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KC23 Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
@KC23, Nailed it.
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That was pretty grim.
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Lowest scoring team in the NHL and some are calling out Quick? GO KINGS GO!!!
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Kyle Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 8:24 am
@Forum Gold, Only the offense minded people are calling him out. Any person who played defense and knows what it takes to actually have a quality TEAM knows the blame does not fall on Quick. Team needs to score and not give up so many point blank, wide open shots in the slot! Go Kings Go!
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Cesar A Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 8:28 am
@Forum Gold, It is not Quick’s fault that the Kings are losing games. The offense and defense are suspect so far this season. Quick cannot be a defenseman and a goalie at the same time. He needs support. Dustin Brown and Kopitar as the leaders of this La Kings team must improve their play.
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So can we wave penner? I mean he isnt going play so?
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I wasn’t thinking the Kings would win every game – BUT – I was sure expecting more than this season has brought so far. Where did all the passion go? Come on Kings!!! Let’s go.
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Surprised to see so many people down on the Kings. This is exactly the team we had last year, and the same result. Without Mitchell this team always struggles to defend well. Add Greene to that mix and it’s really tough on the defensive side. Voynov has been terrific, so when Mitchell and Greene get back things should tighten up defensively. Hopefully Quick can get back to game form soon (he’s been pretty bad so far), but what can you expect from a goalie who was just cleared to play from back surgery right before the first game?
Expect this team to pick things up defensively when the boys get back, and struggle to score all season. All they need to do is land in the 6-8 spot for the playoffs and they’ll be dangerous once again.
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RobSD Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 10:11 am
@dmoney,
The season will be almost over by then! I’m not worried yet… but I’m getting there. They look just awful. The times they look good, they can’t score.
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Personnally, I like the game plan so far (You may not be able to hear the sarcasm!)Take your early top scorer (clifford) who is leading in points and TOI and stick him back on the fourth line, cutting back on his TOI. This provides the opportunity for you to prove that your high priced so-called leaders can out shine him. Heaven forbid that someone like Cliffie can outscore and outshine Richards, Kopi, Stoll, Williams etc. Keep giving those guys all of the advantages so you can prove yourself as the GM and scouting staff. Gee – that’s really working for us. Maybe it’s time to park the big boys in the dressing room and give those who come to work their hardest a chance.
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is it me or does dustin brown not have the same passion to hit anyone out there, it seems like they’ve won the cup and accomplished what they set out to do and now they can coast. dustin needs to be more physical he’s a game and momentum changer.
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I left a comment yesterday beneath the Loktianov trade posting suggesting that the King’s “system” seems to inhibit the potential of talented offensive players. Of course, maybe we shouldn’t care about that because we won a Cup. To me, winning one Cup is not enough, especially since that accomplishment really amounted to a magical 17 game run (we went 1-2 the final three games and were given the last one via a dumb hit by a Devils’ player). Otherwise, at regular season’s end the team appeared to be slipping back and Lombardi’s job was in jeopardy. I think we all agree that we want the team to play to its potential during the regular season and be a perennial Cup threat. I don’t think that can happen without scoring more goals.
Granted, our biggest problem these early games this year has been defense. I believe that defense is largely a matter of effort and smart play and our problems here can be corrected relatively easily, assuming Mitchell returns soon. After all, we played great defense last year and everyone is back, minus Greene and Mitchell. What is a real bugaboo is our offense. Looking at prior stats it would seem that several of our current players are underperforming offensively while a number of them have “found” their offensive touch when leaving. I think we should question why.
Specifically, before coming here:
Mike Richards: 28,30,31 and 23 goals — 75,80,62 and 66 points (last year 18 and 44)
Jeff Carter: 29,46,33,36 goals (too early to tell but he’s not going at a pace to challenge this)
Simon Gagne: 47,41,34,17,17 goals (The last two numbers during injury plagued seasons)
Justin Williams: 31 and 33 goals (has been over 20 with us but not approaching prior numbers)
Dustin Penner: 29,23,17,32,23 goals (except for playoff performance, totally ineffective with us)
All these players should be in their prime. I have seen them criticized here (particularly Penner)for being “lazy” and “heartless,” among other things. I don’t buy that, but let’s go further. Look at Anze Kopitar, my favorite player. His goal totals here are: 20,32,27,34,25 and 25. He has yet to have a season where he has scored more than a point per game. I think his skill level is up there with Malkin, Crosby, Ovechkin and Stamkos and he’s smarter than most of them. Is he lazy? Absolutely not! Something else is keeping him from performing to his full potential.
Now look at some outside players. Neither Matt Moulson or Teddy Purcell could find their touch here. Yes, you could say they were relegated to 3rd and 4th line duty. For whatever reason, they blossomed offensively elsewhere. How about Wayne Simmonds. He scored 16 and 14 goals here–28 in Philly. Another interesting case is Alexei Ponikarovsky. His goal totals before coming here were: 21,21,18,23,and 19. In his one season here he scored 5. We might assume he was losing it but last year he bounced back with 14 with two different teams.
Something about all this points to a system which smothers offensive skills and creativity. It also points to coaching which is rigid and cannot get the most out of players. I know these guys are well paid and I was disgusted at their stance during the lockout. That said, on the ice they are human beings with different personalities. Just as in horse racing where some horses respond to the whip and others just sulk, people tend to respond differently to coaching styles. If that style is rigid and oppressive, it inhibits creativity, which is what great offense is largely about. Guys tend to fear making mistakes and become tentative. I see that in this team. I saw it under Murray and I see it under Sutter. During our magical 17 game playoff run it wasn’t evident because Sutter could just coast on the wave. But now we need more coaching insight. A good coach can deal with different personalities differently without being preferential.
I want to come to the defense of one player. Dustin Penner has taken a bad beating on this site. Granted, his performance has been largely ineffective. Once again, he has been accused of laziness and heartlessness. But I suspect that with more insightful coaching the goal totals he achieved in Edmonton might be attainable. I see Penner’s abilities as being misperceived. He’s a very large man and everyone sees him as a power forward, body bouncer type, and our coaching staff has tried to use him that way. I have seen him putting out effort to perform in that role and he seems to have trouble. To me, he has proven himself to be more of a finesse player with soft hands and the ability to pass. I think he would be more successful in that role, rather than in the role he is being used. If there is no place for him in that role with the Kings he should be moved. But I don’t think it’s fair to ridicule him. I suspect the guy is bewildered.
A couple more things trouble me about Sutter’s coaching. First, his badmouthing his players to the press. If he feels it’s best to tonguelash them or heavily criticize their performances, that’s his prerogative. But do it away from the public. It’s classless, unprofessional and demeaning to broadcast it to the world. I would also like to know from him why he continues to roll four lines, giving the fourth line significant ice time when we trail late in games. I know most people here seem to love the energy and feistyness of Clifford, Fraser and Nolan, but between them last year they scored 9 goals in approx 180 man games. Last night we were down 3-0 in the 3rd period. Can any reasonable person expect those three guys to have as good a chance to cut that margin as the first three lines? I don’t care how much energy they generate, it’s wasted ice time. I know, Clifford has 5 points this year. One is a rebound goal–kudos to him. Of his 4 assists, two of them he knocked the puck around the boards; a defenseman picked it up, passed it to a teammate who put the shot in. That hardly makes Clifford a scoring phenom. He hasn’t scored in the last five games.
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I love how people have it “all figured out.” If you could look at last season’s comments at this time, you would see all the same comments.
I would rather give them the benefit of the doubt, and simplify it:
Quick has been solid, but not the game stealer of last year. Maybe still recovering from surgery or just a bit cold.
Defense has clearly been lacking as I think Mitchell was the MVP of our cup run. We will get it back I believe…just need time here.
Offense has clearly been struggling as they did much of last year. With some wins and confidence I think we can get that back too.
It is still early, obviously a bit of a cup hangover, but I think we still have a chance to get back the magic.
Go Kings!
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Kyle Reply:
February 8th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
@Dolly, I agree with you. Unfortunately, some “Kings fans” are deeming Quick the biggest problem and claiming the offense “isn’t that bad.” Sad to be associated with those people.
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if Ellerby is now with the Kings we need to change lines for forwards lines for kings are
Kopitar Clifford Carter
King Brown Williams
Richards Gagne Nolan
Fraser Stoll Penner and give Lewis a Day off for Defenseman lines are
Defenseman lines
Ellerby Doughty
Scuderi Martinez
Drewiske Muzzin so what do you think
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