Comment On Matt Greene From Kings

Posted by LAKings.com on 21 January 2013, 4:44 pm

Comment from Kings here in Denver as it relates to Matt Greene’s injury: Matt Greene was placed on IR today due to a mid-body injury. As for recovery timeframe, we plan for the worst and hope for the best.

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FKA PakiFro says:

January 21, 2013 at 4:48 pm

Crap. Huge loss on the PK and on leadership.

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usha#17 Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:55 pm
@FKA PakiFro,

Jake Muzzin…let’s see if he can contain the speed of the AVs

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mash-ola Reply:
January 22nd, 2013 at 4:33 am
@FKA PakiFro, I wonder if Sean O’Donnnell would be interested in coming out of retirement for a year… On the UFA wire, pickings are slim, but guys like Kent Huskins, Brett Lebda, Colin White, Chris Campoli, and Pavel Kubina who may be available if they haven’t already signed with a team. But we’ll see… Drewiske should be ok to cover for now, along with Jake Muzzin, but some depth will be needed soon.

So for now, it’s Doughty, Scuderi, Martinez, Voynov, Drewiske, and Bodnarchuk(sp)or Muzzin(?) with Mitchell whenever he is ready to return.

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Jack the Lad says:

January 21, 2013 at 4:50 pm

All media outlets saying he’s done for the year. Hope not.

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tornado12 says:

January 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414161
On Matt Greene.
This sucks big time!

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IceGuy says:

January 21, 2013 at 4:57 pm

I don’t see a leadership problem with Greene out, but I am a bit worried about the PK.
Two guys are going to have to step up – Muzzin (this is his big break) and Voynov.
They’re obviously not the same style as Matt, but they have to be good D-men to cover his loss.

And to be perfectly honest, this kind of situation is going to test the Kings desire to repeat.
Willie and Greene are out. Who steps up? They played like a TEAM to win the Cup, let’s see early if they can play like a TEAM thru early adversity.

Big question – who gets the “A”?

A Vet like Scuds, or scare the pants off him and make him grow up, Doughty?

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DesertKing Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:00 pm
@IceGuy,

Good point about the Kings winning as a team. They did not play as a team on Saturday, but hopefully the loss to Chicago and now the injury to Greene will galvanize them and help them put that “team” concept back together.

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DEH Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:15 pm
@IceGuy, I think they give it to Doughty because of the amount of time he spends on the ice. And if rumors are true, he did a lot of growing up this off season… came into camp in the best shape of his life

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7MILforHickey Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 8:21 pm
@DEH, richards seems like the obvious choice to me

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HockeyNerd says:

January 21, 2013 at 4:58 pm

If it were JUST Greene I would say make due with DD2 and Muzzin. But now we had better trade a couple of spare forwards or maybe even Bernier or Gagne for a good stay at home defenseman. And I think DL is on it.

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jess Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:44 pm
@HockeyNerd,

At this time with quick fresh off of surgery, I would be surprised to see Bernier go anywhere at least for the moment.

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HockeyNerd Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 7:49 pm
@jess, Not to mention you’d need a backup and Jones does not seem to be NHL ready. The question is how long is Mitchell going to be out? If its not much longer after all then I think I was wrong and DL just makes do with what we have now. This happens all the time in Hockey and Muzzin DOES have some NHL
experience. What kind of hurts now is that we lost Hickey.

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jess Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 8:20 pm
@HockeyNerd,

Jones is pretty damn good, and I believe he has a bright future. But you’re right, would be a stretch to bet on him right now.
CO Kings Fan says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:03 pm

I was shocked and aghast hearing Greene might be done for the year. The person this will hurt the most is Quick. I can’t remember how many times Greene stop a shot before it even got to Quicker. I hope he’s not done for the year but that seems to be the prevailing wisdom.

I say give the A to Donuts and give him a chance to be a leader. He’s going to be here for a long time.

Is Weber on the last year of his contract?

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Mars Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:13 pm
@CO Kings Fan, DD could be a good call, But So are Stoll Williams and Richards.

I think Quick will good, he is a solid guy, maybe he can refer Greene to his back guy.

Greener will recover well, tough guy, I just hope its quick, that is the pain subsides fast. I herniated 3 discs once, and I NEVER want to feel that pain again. (dont know what Greeners injury is, just going off speculation/reports)

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jp says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:05 pm

Bye Bye Bernie.

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Mars Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:14 pm
@jp, Not yet. We have good prospects.
It inst time to panic.

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DesertKing Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:24 pm
@Mars,

Agreed. Let DS do his thing referemce evaluating the prospects and if he isn’t happy with what he sees, then turn DL loose looking for a replacememt.

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HockeyNerd Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:27 pm
@jp, Unless you think Martin Jones is NHL ready that would just close one hole and open another!

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jp Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 9:38 pm
@HockeyNerd, was more interested in making the pun than viability of a Benier trade

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CB14 says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:06 pm

Damn that sucks.

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CB14 Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Oh, and FU Bettman, you piece of CRAP.

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DesertKing Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:09 pm
@CB14,

+gazillion

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JohnD Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:13 pm
@CB14, why not abide by the rules?

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CB14 Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:26 pm
@JohnD, Sorry for posting in all caps.

Mars Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:14 pm
@CB14, Beat me to it. +1

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kissmyblarneystones Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:16 pm
@CB14,

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Happy Lappy says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:12 pm

TESTING!

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GailWeb says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:14 pm

Our boys will have to come together now, and Darryl our coach will get them back as a new team now, Kopi too welcome back, tomorrow night will tell us the new story

Go Kings Go!

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California Royalty says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:16 pm

Adversity, meet the 2013 LA Kings.

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Happy Lappy says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:18 pm

Finally, I thought I was replaced by Puck73 on here. Greene’s loss is certainly leaving a void in blocked shots and physical play. DD2 is the only guy with some game experience, but, he’ll have some big skates to fill, maybe we need to look a trade, sucks to do that this early. I don’t think you trade Bernier though, too little in the goalie vault at Man.

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GUSTAVO Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:24 pm
@Happy Lappy,

Roloson is available at goal. And despite his age, I’d take a chance on him backing up Quick. Specially in a shortened season. He’d play what…5, 8 games at most?

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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:24 pm
@Happy Lappy,

Agreed. Too early to even consider trading Bernier, let alone anyone else. Lest we forget, Quick is still coming off his injury. The last thing we need is to lose a quality backup. Still though, the emotional loss of Greene coupled with his physical style of play cannot be matched by DD2. As you said, the perfect word is ‘void.’

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jess Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:47 pm
@Happy Lappy,

Yup, Bernier ain’t going anywhere.

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GUSTAVO says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:20 pm

OK,

Let the blog bean counters out of the barn so we can start speculating how much cap room DL has to make to get P.K Subban to LA.

Greene is out for the season, or so it seems.
Mitchel is still not playing and despite the blatant needs for his play and leadership he should not be rushed to come back. His age is a factor.
Both Mitchell and Scuderi have to be replaced in the next year or so.
So why not make a strong move for Subban?

Sign and trade Subban for Bernier + Gagne? Do the numbers match?

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California Royalty Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:23 pm
@GUSTAVO, Bernier and Gagne or Subban??? Price is one of the best goalies in the league. Bernier wouldn’t play at all and Gagne is on his last legs.

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GUSTAVO Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:27 pm
@California Royalty,

Well, if the ‘Canes took West for Stewart + 2 picks, I would imagine those arrogant Montreal Canadiens would be at least just as stupid to show Subban the door for not accepting their offer cheap.

Subban is holding out and not even talking with the team. Samewith Benn in Dallas

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HockeyNerd Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:34 pm
@GUSTAVO, The problem with dealing Bernier is that you would then need SOMETHING to back up Quick. It is doubtful Martin Jones would cut the mustard. And as mentioned above I doubt that Montreal would be interested. There are more than a few teams that desperately need a starter and would be willing to give Bernier a shot at it. They aren’t one of them.

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GUSTAVO Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:42 pm
@HockeyNerd,

I agree that M Jones may not be ready for this shortened season playoff style intensity. But I like Dwayne Roloson. Despite his age he has the experience to back up Quick for the few games Sutter will use him for.

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California Royalty says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:21 pm

Thought there were a couple more Defensemen up the AHL rankings than Andrew Bodnarchuk. Hopefully he can help fill the void.
They can’t panic and trade away talent to fill a void. It’s gut check time and time for some young defensemen to get their opportunity ahead of schedule.

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Happy Lappy Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:25 pm
@California Royalty, I would like to know who we have in Man. that can play a physical stay at home defense. Any clue?

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GUSTAVO Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:29 pm
@Happy Lappy,

Forbort.

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LAK1ngs Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:33 pm
@GUSTAVO, College….. can’t bring him up like someone in the minors

California Royalty Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:31 pm
@Happy Lappy, Well I guess they’ve given Andrew Bodnarchuk the shot. They called him up.
I don’t know much about him. He’s small, so replacing a body like Greene’s with a smaller body is a little confusing.

I think Nicolas Deslauriers would be a good call up. Big body who has a similar style to Greener`s

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tornado12 Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:47 pm
@California Royalty, i think Greene’s job is Muzzins to lose at this point
Subby says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:23 pm

Time for one of out young stars to shine. Maybe Muzzy Wuzzy?

Call me cray but trade for Subban?

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Michael_DD8 says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:26 pm

I used to feel real confident with our D farm, but lately i am thinking we aren’t as strong as we thought/used to be. With Martinez and Voynov already graduated to the big club, Muzzin and Bonderchuk are really the only ‘playable and ready’ prospects which doesn’t include the young guy like Derek Forbort who is still a ways off but is the right play style. Im just scared the type of D we have lost haven’t been sufficiently filled with the right type of play with our callups. Amart mobile, muzzin mobile , bonderchuk mobible ( which is good, but we lack grit). That is our M.O… I agree with moving Bernier or Lokti for defense if that is even possible in the thin market. Everyone needs D.

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HockeyNerd Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:06 pm
@Michael_DD8, We lost Hickey and that now hurts. But most teams would love to have our problems — we still have Doughty, Voynov and Scuderi and Quick in goal. We have some assets DL can use if he decides a stay at home he wants is available for the right price. I don’t think Bernier is one of those assets though — unless you think Martin Jones is NHL
ready or that we can sign Roloson.

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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:26 pm

And here I thought the lockout would actually help the Kings AVOID injuries. Boy was that not the case.

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Mars Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:36 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), I was thinking the same thing all summer, Quick has time to heal Awesome, then Kopi and Willie now Green.

Hopefully it stops there, in three’s. (like celebrity deaths)

I am not freaking out, while others are already trade talking here. I think we have good depth and am not too worried.Yet.(in case I freak later)

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GUSTAVO Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:04 pm
@Mars,

What depth do we have at stay home D men? None…Nada..Niente.

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HockeyNerd Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:10 pm
@GUSTAVO, That’s overexaggeration. Scuderi is still right there and Muzzin has some previous NHL experience. And Drewiske is perfectly fine to fill in for a while also. If I’m
DL I keep my eyes and ears open but I DON’T panic. He won’t.

Kingsfanone Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:57 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),

I thought the same. Silly me. The Hockey Gods giveth and they taketh away.

Test time kids. Hope everyone sharpened their pencils.

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GUSTAVO says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:31 pm

OKOKOKOKOKOKOK

PK Subban for Lokti + Bernier + Gagne.

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California Royalty Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:36 pm
@GUSTAVO, Montreal isn`t trading Subban, especially for a goalie. Especially for Lokti and/or Gagne.
That’s seriously like trading Drew Doughty for Colby Armstrong, Travis Moen and Raphael Diaz…

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HockeyNerd Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:51 pm
@GUSTAVO, Give them a prospect like Forbort instead of Bernier. Better for them and better for us.

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jess Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:54 pm
@GUSTAVO,

100 bucks say bernier is going no where for a while.

Quick is fresh off of habbing from surgery, not only that, back surgery. If Quick god forbid goes down for a while or the season, Bernier is the best insurance policy we have to tend that net.

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Kingsfanone Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 7:02 pm
@jess,

Agreed. They can’t trade Bernie now.

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CB14 says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:37 pm

It’s not time to panic, but this hurts. Does anyone know what Mitchell’s real timetable is? At the start of camp it was rumored to be a few days, then it became 7 or 8 weeks, and now Waves said he was practicing again. Either way I think you give Muzzin, DD2, and Bodnarchuk a few weeks and see how it goes. If they don’t work out, and Mitchell is still out, then you’ve got to consider making a move with one of our forwards. I wouldn’t trade Bernier unless you can get a decent veteran back-up, and a solid d-man in return. Trading him for just a d-man weakens the team too much IMO, especially with Quick still coming off back surgery.

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Mars Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 5:42 pm
@CB14, Agreed. We have depth. Time to put it to use. They need the training and experience.
It is not just about the NOW, but the future too. Sadly this is normal. We just dont like to see it happen.

We will prevail, we have plenty of depth to come up and fill the void. Also it is time for the current D corps to step up and prove their mettle, time to shine guys!

GO KINGS GO!

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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:02 pm
@CB14, I do not believe Willie would be on this trip with the team if he didn’t hope to play in a game. He played in a full practice today (http://kingsnewsdaily.com/monday-practice-report/) so that is a very good sign.

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CB14 Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 6:05 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Very good news indeed. Thanks for all the hard work you do Paul. Much appreciated.

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rick says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:53 pm

Bad news. If the reports are true, must be a pretty significant injury for him to already be considered done for the year.

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jimmyo777 says:

January 21, 2013 at 5:55 pm

I hope Dean stays away from Subban as he is trouble both in the dressing room and on the ice. If Greener is out for a lengthy period, the “A” should go to Richards because of his leadership qualities
and because he plays in all situations, and a true leader in the locker room… Hopefully, Dean is looking around for a D man that we could trade for some of our forwards as we have an abundance of forwards on both the current LAKings and in Manchester..

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HockeyNerd says:

January 21, 2013 at 6:00 pm

The wild card is this: how long is Mitchell really going to be out? Not having ONE experienced stay at home defenseman is not a catastrophe. But if BOTH Greene and Mitchell are out DL needs to do something. There are assets who would be useful to other teams that probably don’t have much of a future here. It may be time to use them. Dealing Bernier is problematic though because them you better get a proven NHL backup. DL may just decide to se how DD2, JM and AB handle it. I trust what he decides. This is concerning but truthfully last years relative lack of blue line injuries was unusual. We’ll be OK.

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Gailweb says:

January 21, 2013 at 6:29 pm

Yes talking about hockey again real games
injuries wow

Feel better Matt now it’s someone time to shine

Back on

Go Kings Go!

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Kingsfanone Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 7:04 pm
@Gailweb,

Hey Gail! Great meeting you Sat by the way!

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Enrique says:

January 21, 2013 at 6:30 pm

Go after Lubo. He won’t play on Long Island, but he’ll play here.

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AJ says:

January 21, 2013 at 6:54 pm

The injury problems are compounded by the compressed schedule. Working Mitchell back into the lineup when he is ready might mean playing every other game for a week or two. Kopitar is in a better position, both because his injury was not as severe and because he played overseas during the lockout, but exercising caution with him is wise as well.

The personnel problems are also affected by the compressed schedule. Lombardi should not (and certainly will not) panic and rush into a bad trade. But with every game and every point magnified by the short season and conference-only play, the Kings cannot afford to lose very much ground in the standings before making a move to correct any problems with the composition of the roster. It will be a delicate balance for Lombardi–not moving too quickly but also not waiting too long to address roster issues.

Finally, trading Bernier is not the silver bullet, and it is most definitely not something that should be rushed into in the first week of the season. Based on the experience of the last lockout, teams will be out of playoff contention quickly and will–in an effort to cut salary going forward–make players available that might not normally be on the market. Moreover, if a contender loses a goaltender to injury or an unexpected contender needs to strengthen its goaltending, Bernier’s value will skyrocket. Those should be the scenarios in which Lombardi should consider using Bernier as trade bait; otherwise, it would be a waste of the team’s most valuable commodity.

Despite the early season injuries and the forgettable opener, thank God that we’re talking about actual hockey rather than hockey related revenue, salary cap formulae, and how best to divest the league of Bettman’s presence (OK, I wouldn’t mind good suggestions on the last one). GKG.

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Kingsfanone says:

January 21, 2013 at 7:01 pm

Now mixed signals coming out about Greene. Is he out 6-12 weeks or the season? Confusion rains here.

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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 7:25 pm
@Kingsfanone, 12 weeks IS the rest of the (regular) season!

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Kingsfanone Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 7:36 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),

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crashin' da net says:

January 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm

Not good but we need to overcome. Bodnarchuk is small but haven’t seen him play. Certainly we have someone a bit larger??? We’re counting on you Whiskey! Hopefully Muzzy put on some pounds. Man up Cup-Holders!

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DBking says:

January 21, 2013 at 9:29 pm

I wonder if Dean would redo the Hickey move in light of this…

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ElSegundoBrody says:

January 21, 2013 at 10:13 pm

Relax everyone, it’s all part of the plan… Stress out the fans, barely make the playoffs, then DOMINATE all the way to the cup! That’s how we roll in LA… Loads of drama followed by a storybook ending.

I hope all the media outlets are talking out their rear-ends and Greener is out a couple of weeks max. One of my favorite pictures is of Greener’s face pouring blood and Quicker laughing at the sight. It looks like Greener skated up to Quick and said “hey man, am I bleeding?!” Priceless!

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Save, Hrudey! Reply:
January 21st, 2013 at 11:10 pm
@ElSegundoBrody,

Nice man…..but I think it might be a little more serious that a couple of weeks.
Being reported that he needs surgery. That already sounds like it’ll take a while.

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Pumpernicholl says:

January 21, 2013 at 10:42 pm

Muzzin will play, Bodnarchuk becomes the 7th D. Muzzin, Drewiske & Scuderi will be the 3 stay-at-homes for now.

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vinny says:

January 21, 2013 at 11:50 pm

You’ll be missed greenimal..

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shaunk96 says:

January 22, 2013 at 7:05 am

Why not andrew campbell hes big and a right handed shot with a good +/-

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trytodethroneus Reply:
January 22nd, 2013 at 9:29 am
@shaunk96,

Unfortunately, he’s a lefty

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Spencer Maze says:

January 22, 2013 at 12:08 pm

This truly does blow – PP will prob suffer as well as overall leadership is concerned. I’m confident the boys will adapt and push forward.

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