As many know already, L.A. Live has partnered with master Chef Wolfgang Puck and Kiss front man, Gene Simmons to create Rocktoberfest that will feature several Oktoberfest beers paired with Wolfgang’s California twist on the traditional Oktoberfest menu. Tonight there will also be a Kings twist on things with Lord Stanley’s Cup making an appearance from 6-8 pm. Come down and say hi to me, Bob Miller and Daryl Evans, get a picture with the Cup. Who knows, maybe Bob will school Mr. Simmons on how to play the guitar. Should be fun. See you there!
Fastest two story posts in history!
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The picture needs no comment.
Finally!
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Great photo!
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that’s one helluva…eh, um…motley crue…you’ve assembled there, FOXY…:)
great cause…enjoy…(!)
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Gene plays bass, Jim.
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I’d prefer a nice shot of whiskey out of the cup….(puts nose in the air)
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variable Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
@Lake Forest,
delerium tremens would be cool…
or some blue label…
or some oban 25 yr…
heck, i’d settle for some jim beam…:)
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@Lake Forest,’
Stanley’s secret sangria recipe for me (i.e. lots o’ rum!)
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I love this photo! They’re both wearing their Kings 2012 Stanley Cup Champs shirts.
I also like the way they positioned the Cup so you can’t see who won it in 2006/07.
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Lake Forest Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
@Jon G, HAH! You bring up, this must be an older picture as it doesnt have the Kings names on it either.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@Lake Forest, I noticed that too.
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If 16 teams are losing money then shouldnt the league lower the salary cap??? If costs are going up (rent,insurance,gas,hotels, etc…)shouldnt the league be watching their budget. I own a business and my evenues are up but my PROFITS…are down.The players need to stop with proposals of their own and negoiate with 50 50 being the ending point.Get the league to give in on the other issues but you will/should not get more then 50%.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@Neil, But, but, but…what do you think about Rocktoberfest?
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Neil Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), at this point…I could care less….No Lakers on Direct T.V. and No Hockey!!!! I feel for the fans and workers who depend on Hockey for income.I just dont see the negoaiting part.If both sides would just define HRR and both agree that 50 50 is fair..Then the rest can fall in place.I also heard on Center Ice that the NHL is planning on two new teams…Love reading your comments thou!!!!
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CB14 Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@Neil, No one put a gun to the owners heads and forced them to spend more than they take in. Those teams chose to do so. When people mention the teams who continually lose more money than the rest of the league each year they continually mention the same 4 teams. Phoenix, New Jersey, New York Islanders, amd Colombus. Lets examine each of those teams problems individually.
Phoenix plays in a city in which the fans just don’t care about hockey, it’s as simple as that. And whose choice was it to allow them to move to Phoenix? Their owner Gary Bettman. He also allowed them to spend 55 million on his teams payroll when he knew they were losing money and that he could’ve saved the league 6 million dollars had he had a payroll closer to the cap floor. But it’s the players fault.
New Jersey got a terrible financial deal on their new arena. They also chose to spend way more than they had to, cough, Kovulchuk, cough. Their payroll last season was nearly 62 million dollars. If they had spent in their means they could’ve saved 13 million dollars last season. But it’s the players fault.
The Islanders play in a horrible arena, and for a horrible owner who has made so many bad decisions it’s a wonder how he made enough money in his other ventures to be able to afford a hockey team. It’s was Wang’s decision to give Alexei Yashin a 10 year contract. It was also his decision to give Rick DePeietro a 15 year contract. Both of those contratcs have put his team in a situation where he can’t spend enough money to make them field a winning hockey team. Thus the fans don’t bother supporting the team. Plus they’re still paying off both contracts for atleast another 3 years. But it’s the players fault.
Lastly we have the Colombus Blue Jackets. Who decided it was a good idea to put a team there in the first place? Gary Bettman. They are also a team who decided to spend well beyond their means. They spent 61 million on player salaries last season. Mabye had they spent less money they wouldn’t have lost money. But it’s the players fault.
Mabye these owners should remember the first rule of business: dont’t spend more than you take in.
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luc20rules Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
@CB14, One thing nobody is mentioning is the NHL owners do not own NHL teams to make money. There are other businesses that surely are better opportunities, but its a status symbol these guys don’t need 4+ cars, but I bet they do. I bet they pay property taxes of $30,000+ on a vacation home they only go to 5 days out of the year. Professional sports owners like the status it gives them around their peers. Even if the team loses money its a needed tax writeoff, and they usually make up the difference when they sell the team. But, why would a NHL teams value go up every year, its a status symbol of how rich you are that you can afford it. Think a Lamborgini that doesn’t wear down, and is guaranteed to always start, not breakdown, and is $200,000 more than any your friends own.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@CB14, +1,000,000
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Swet Photo! Love both you guys…you guys more than deserve and have waited to long for that picture.
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I’m bummed I won’t be able to make it to that, but you guys have enough fun for me. Sounds like an awesome time.
This has been my take on things pretty much since the NHL offer on Tues. Finally close enough to the final CBA that real negotiations can start. But it seems that instead of taking what the NHL offered and saying we don’t like these 10 or what ever # of items lets find middle ground or satisfactory corrections on these matters make the final CBA. The NHLPA just shuffles somethings together and says this is what we want with little compromise from earlier proposals? I suppose if there was any good it appeared that they backed off 57% for the future take and are now looking at a 50/50 split even if it takes 5 or so years or so to get there. I have always felt the NHL dictated terms in the last lockout, but failed to design a sustainable CBA for that they are wrong, but the NHLPA can’t just demand things stay broken either. They must negotiate and fix this hopefully good enough that another lockout doesn’t happen in another 6 or so years.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl–nhl-and-nhlpa-wasting-time-with-scare-tactics-and-pr-stunts-instead-of-settling-cba.html
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FYI.
Starting 10/17, FOX Sports West will re-air all 16 of the Kings’ wins during the 2012 Stanley Cup Playoffs. Games will be presented in two-game blocks every Wednesday night beginning at 7pm through Dec 5th.
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TeamJMFJ Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:10 am
@luc20rules, damn…wish i wouldve known wednesday…oh well…now i can have all 14 wins on my dvr
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Kingsfanone Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:50 am
@luc20rules,
Awesome……isn’t it! btw I know how it ends!
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Had anyone else heard that Seattle is working on trying to get a Nhl team? I heard Oilers names brought up but I didn’t think that could even be possible.
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luc20rules Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
@Subby, I just read the NHL is secretly thinking of adding 2 teams. My top 3 guesses would be Seattle, Kansas City, or Quebec. Then there could be 6 teams constantly mentioned as perenial money lossers, right @CB14.
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goldielocks Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
@Subby,
Expansion fee, $500 million x 2 teams = $1 billion goes straight into owners pockets. Woohoo!
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Gustavo Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:43 am
@Subby,
Katz, the Oilers owner, has been threatening to move the team to Seattle. The NHL will never allow that. Edmonton is one of the most profitable hockey markets in the league.
Toronto area will probably get a second team before Quebec does.
I am betting on the Yotes moving from AZ and that the league will own them until they do.
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Our LA KINGS will be in a future trivia question for many years to come,
Question.
“Which NHL team won the last Stanley Cup awarded by the NHL”
Answear.
LA KINGS !!!!!!
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Whats that big shiny thing between Bob and Jim?
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Gmo Reply:
October 19th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
@DesertKing,
Coin?
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DesertKing Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:26 am
@Gmo,
I think its a cereal bowl fit for a King (or Kings in this case).
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Kingsfanone Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@DesertKing,
Shouldn’t you have said flashy NACHO bowl???
DesertKing Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@Kingsfanone
Everybody knows that nachos are best served on a paper plate or in a plastic throwaway square bowl with a separate compartment for cheese. The silver bowl would probably ruin the flavor and defintiely destroy the ambiance that nachos require.
Kingsfanone Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
@DesertKing,
Doh! See there. I’m not the nacho expert on this blog!
Re Bettman: three strikes your out!
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Cortex949 Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:49 am
@Cortex949, youre*
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Foxy, my early shield hat’s off to you and Bob. You guys have made my hockey watching experience so much better, which is magnified during the playoffs whan other announcers fail to match you. You in particular have taught me so much. Thank you. I wish I still lived in L.A. and could join in the fun.
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Hockey!,, will we have a season?
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Gustavo Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 7:38 am
@KingCharles of SaltLake,
Doubtful at best
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Cesar Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@KingCharles of SaltLake, The odds of having at the season are slim to now. Thanks in part of the so called united stand the silly players have against any rollbacks on their salaries. Shouldn’t they realized that this so called expected revenue they are bickering over with the owners might not exist at all if they continue to sandbag the NHL fans by refusing to agree on a contract with the owners. The last time I checked the average working person in the US or Canada was not making $1 million. Shame on the players for not putting things into perspective and acting like spoiled rich men who do not want to lose more than 10% of the million they make. I expect many fans to walk away from hockey if the NHL cancels the 2012-2013 season.
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King Charles of Salt Lake Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
@Cesar, I agree, but what to do with our hockey withdraw. No other league has all the great players in the same league.
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Cesar Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake, I understand where you are coming from. I cannot understand why these players think that this so called expected growth in revenue will exist after this NHL lockout. I wonder what the AHL players think about this NHL lockout. I think a lot of them do not understand it like me. If the NHLPA does not want a 5 year CBA with rollbacks then can they just agree with a short CBA deal to see how this 2012-2013 season goes and then reassume CBA negotiations during the offseason for a longer CBA.
Luongo to the Maple leafs? This move might torigger Bernier’s trade if it’s true.
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King Charles of Salt Lake Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@goldielocks, Hey goldie I swear I was just thinking of you!!! Boom you just happen to show up!! I knew Luongo was on his way out. Maybe just what the Leafs need. Any new news on the lock out?
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goldielocks Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake,
Not much. Don Fehr sent memo to players, explaining the 3 offers they made. Basically, he’s taking calls from players at this point, eager to listen to their opinions. Maybe the conference call later and then decide their next move … or not.
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King Charles of Salt Lake Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@goldielocks, Maybe they should call us fans to see how we feel. Does anyone care about our feelings here. Or maybe we are just the poor naps that keep coming back buying up tickets?
Is everybody gone today? I posted at 4 this morning and only one post since. Just like the Good Ole days I guess. I miss hockey and life is a drag today. Some nice words might go a long way, so please somebody say Something.
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Cesar Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake, I just made a post. I am very pessimistic about the outlook of this 2012-2013 NHL season. It is such a shame that this NHL labor strife crap happens right after the LA Kings win the Stanley Cup.
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King Charles of Salt Lake Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@Cesar, Unless both side come to some agreement the season will be lost. I really can’t understand why the players didn’t take the 50-50 deal. Sure it’s not the best deal, but like you said, these guy are loaded. Let them work for 15.00 an hour and see how far that takes them. Anyone of us “middle class” would jump at the chance to play a game for a living. But the thing that bugs me is that neither side cares about us. the very people who buys the tickets to the game. What a shame!!!
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Cesar Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake, I agree that the NHL and NHLPA do not care about the fans. The issue that we have is that two stubborn individuals such as Gary Bettman and Donald Fehr are leading the CBA negotiations. I am sure that when the NFL and NBA CBA agreements were made they did not have people like Bettman and Fehr leading them.
Does anyone think if the NHLPA fails to come to its senses by this coming Thursday that the NHL will use the threat of replacement players to at least have some hockey this season?
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King Charles of Salt Lake Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@Cesar, I think replacement players is a bad idea. We won’t be watching the Kings team that won the CUP!! I need to see Brown, Kopi, DD#8, Jeff Carter, richards, STOLL and all the other cats that won the CUP. Just wouldn’t be the same. I’m on the owners side. I believe they put their hand out and the players rejected it. But I wonder how many rejected it?
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Cesar Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake, I just posed that question because when Donald Fehr was leading the CBA negotiations for MLB this happened.
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King Charles of Salt Lake Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
@Cesar, Fehr is lame. He is a money grabbing fool who almost lost baseball and now is loseing hockey. I knew the moment the players hired him we were DOOMED!!!
variable Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
@Cesar,
fehr is doing the right thing…
there won’t be any replacement players – i’m sure of it..
this is the owners’ lockout…i guess i don’t understand why others see it differently…
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Gustavo Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:11 am
@variable,
Of course it’s the owners’ lockout. The owners own the teams and the league infrastructure.
Owners lockout and Players strike.
“Boys have penises, girls have vaginas”…’Kindergarten Cop’ movie.
And nobody here can predict what these napoleonic and arrogant attorneys led sides will do regarding negotiations. We can hope, guess and point fingers until hell freezes over.
But I’ll be dammed if I have to watch the raising of the first LA Kings Championship with replacements players. I PREDICT I would not be the only one booing throughout the entire ceremony or chanting ‘We want the real players!!!’ to the top of my lungs.
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KC23 Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
@Cesar, Fehr ruined baseball for me personally. The Yankees being able to pay their players several times more than nearly ever other team has made a mockery of the sport in my eyes. As much as I hate the Yankees I feel sorry for their fans. They can never again really feel they have won anything legitimately with the odds stacked so absurdly in their favor.
I used to love baseball. Now it’s a joke. I sure hope the same thing doesn’t happen to hockey.
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here’s more food for thought…:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=407747
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and here’s dreger’s opinion, which is similar to lebrun’s piece yesterday…:
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/?id=407723
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luc20rules Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
@variable, I thought, I was done making suggestions, but here we go.
CBA proposal no rollbacks thru the CBA term. 1st year teams are allowed to go over a soft cap of 60 mil/yr to 70 mil. If they do 50% of that amount over the soft cap will be paid to players next yr by %, and not count against the next year cap(This just allows owners to pay up to 5 mil over the soft cap next year. 2nd year the 50/50 max cap will be a hard one and teams will need to balance their rosters acordingly, but with a provision that the max cap is at least 65 mil/yr if not the same provisions as the 1st year, but hard cap is 65 mil/yr. Third Year same as the 2nd but hard max cap at 62.5 mil/yr. Yes teams will have to adjust their rosters. Also starting immediately and for the remainder of the CBA the min cap will be adjusted to be a 70% of the Max cap instead of a fixed range of 16 mil/yr.
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luc20rules Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
@luc20rules, Forgot 4th to 7th year the split is 50/50.
Although it would be nice to have one year be 49/49 and have 20oz domestic beers be a fair $5 for a year. LOL, yes its a dream.
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Gustavo Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:15 am
@luc20rules,
You can have all the $5 and under beers if you drink them at home after the game or at the near bar/restaurants before or after the game. Do not buy food or drink at the arena. Keep that portion of YOUR Hockey Related Revenue in your wallet, not the NHL or NHLPA.
The arena workers are not on commission, so there is no skin off their back, either.
the KHL is having some issues, too…
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1194831/dynamo-moscow-to-dynamo-to-crack-down-after-paintgun-incident?cc=5901
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Gustavo Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:18 am
@variable,
In another article, Dynamo management has identified the rioters and vandas as being from Vancouver, Canada, lol…..
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Gustavo Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 9:18 am
@Gustavo,
vandals *
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variable Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
@Gustavo,
hehe…i wouldn’t be surprised…(!)
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BringBackKingston Reply:
October 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 am
@variable, the incident happened to the soccer club, not the hockey club.
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Tip: When drinking from the Cup, bring a change of clothes!
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variable Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
@jess,
or a wet suit…
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jess Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
@variable,
YES, -if you see someone step out of a cab with a wetsuit on, you can be sure the cup is somewhere close by
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Kingsfanone Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:28 am
@jess,
The last time someone got out of a cab in a wetsuit at my house……well……nevermind! =-O
-And thank god it’s not called Lord Stanley’s Mug!
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variable Reply:
October 20th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
@jess,
+1000…(!)
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At this point I’m mad at both sides. As a fan I just want my hockey. Work out these agreements during the off-season and just play hockey now.
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Some shots from the Rocktoberfest last night; http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCwRJan
Always a joy to say hi and talk with Bob, Jim, and Daryl. These guys are class acts all the way and go out of their way to spend time with every fan that stops to chat.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 8:25 am
@LomitaKingsFan,
Nice pics, buddy! Looks like a fun nite! (No Gene Simmons tho?)
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variable Reply:
October 21st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@LomitaKingsFan,
cool pics…
thanks for sharing…sounds like it was a great time…(!)
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I hope it was a REAL beer and not any of that Colorado weasel pee.
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luc20rules Reply:
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
@Buster, Bettman makes beer in Colorado?
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