Well, today is a sad day for Kings fans, given that the team had been scheduled to play its first preseason games tonight, a split-squad set against the Phoenix Coyotes at Staples Center and Jobing.com Arena. The ice is painted and set at Staples Center, but it won’t be used, and there’s no indication that it will be used any time in the near future. Here’s one positive for the day… KingsVision has put out a video of Bob Miller and Jim Fox calling the Kings’ second goal from Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals. I’m told they intend to release all of the goal videos, as well as the calls from Nick Nickson and Daryl Evans, so at least folks can relive the moments from June…
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Ah, sweet memories.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@Buster,
Boy do you have THAT right!
That DVD can’t get to me soon enough…
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Buster Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
After waiting for two years, my new house will be ready for occupancy on the 30th. I hope they don’t run out of books/DVDs before I get a chance to order them with the new address. I wouldn’t mind getting one as a housewarming present though.
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kingCow Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
@Buster,
Order it and send it to a family member that is not moving anywhere. Just a thought
6.11.12
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fuzzerson Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, “a date that will live in infamy”
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Yay Bettman. Such leadership
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luc20rules Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@Weasel, So is he Weasel King?
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Weasel Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@luc20rules,
Yes, I march to Bettman’s tune. Straight to the NFL and I really don’t particularly like pre-playoffs football.
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Chills!
Every single time.
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KingsFan on EastCoastTime Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
@TheDryer5, +1
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letswinthecup2012 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
@TheDryer5, +1 more
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* Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
@TheDryer5, better make it a hat trick
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What i really want to see is Bob and Jim in the final count down at the end of game 6.
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LomitaKingsFan Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@Exospeed, Ask and ye shall receive:
http://youtu.be/_MUFbHI0k08?hd=1
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Jon G Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
@LomitaKingsFan, That still gives me goosebumps, three months later.
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Exospeed Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@LomitaKingsFan, AWESOME!
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BETTMAN FOR PRESIDENT!
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tornado12 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@Keeper, u think he would lock-out congress?
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Keeper Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
@tornado12, I think he’d be a wise and strong leader.
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@Keeper,
When I read that, I hear Likin Park’s “Hands Held High” playing in my head.
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Keeper Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@Kenny44, Sorry to hear that.
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
@Keeper, With all due respect, you goalie types are friggin loonybins, but we love you like that.
luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
@Keeper, Much like the sign “Putz for President” sign. I saw in Seattle for the Mariners closer JJ Putz at the time. He is on a different team now.
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It would be so great if NHL.com could take some time during the lockout to fix video playback with Google Chrome.
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steve mcqueen Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
@ViperHockey, you do have other options…Firefox,Safari,Explorer,Opera
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you gotta figure that these guys are not gonna be any closer until sometime in november…
so i guess we can start counting “games missed” due to the lockout (even though it’s only preseason games)…
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
@variable, Nick Nickson disagrees.
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variable Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
i hope tricky nicky is right…
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TheDryer5 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
@variable,
Every Kings game I watch for the foreseeable future ends with Dustin Brown raising the Cup. I could think of worse things.
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jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
@variable,
I wonder how much money the owners and the NHL will lose during the lockout vs. what they think they will save. I’m sure someone has run the numbers.
Me thinks it’s revenue which will never be recovered on so many levels.
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Stuart Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
@jess, actaully, and I don’t have the numbers, but it’s been said by several here in the days leading up to the lockout that owners stood to lose LESS if there was no season to be played… operating costs must be a…killer.
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variable Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
@jess,
it’s the smaller markets that will get hurt the most…but some of the owners are prepared and have a war chest full of reserved money for this period…
and that’s part of the issue – how to revenue share between the larger and smaller markets and how to get the players to pay for it…
in many ways, the issues between the larger and smaller markets regarding the aforementioned revenue sharing splits are just as contentious as the nhlpa and the owners…
that’s why i’m getting less optimistic that they can get this all settled before they have to cancel the winter classic – to me, that’s the ultimate doomsday scenario…
if there’s any leverage that the players can muster, it comes from the premise of the nhl not wanting to lose the revenue/promotion/etc. of the winter classic…and the fact that the smaller markets might start to get impatient as time goes on and their losses pile up, putting more pressure on the larger markets to get a deal done – with everyone…
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jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
@variable,
Well, got to have some reg season games for at least 8-10 weeks before that winter classic, otherwise it will have no muscle behind it, no hype, low ratings. Hey, I know, put Bettman on it -nevermind…
Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
@variable,
I so need a war chest.
variable Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
@Jess,
yeppers…(!)
@Kenny44
yr not kidding, i need one, too…(!)
Piss poor communication for both sides
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
@Josh Price, Wrong. Far, far worse than that. NO communication by either side. You can’t subjectively give an opinion on something that isn’t happening.
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Thanks so much Rich, what a rush, so nice to see Bob and Jim, even if from June 11th 2012, yes you are so correct it is a sad day, and on Oct 12th 2012, it will be even a sadder, day as already us fans losing end as no hockey fest, gone no frozen fury, gone no pre-season gone,and who knows what else.
Bo bo bo Halloween is coming ;-(
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boo
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neil Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
A@Gail Web, and you must be mad……..no go kings go on your post
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Gail Web Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@neil, Nope Neil not mad, it’s just were not going anywhere anytime soon thanks.
Thanks to Rich, and his writing and video maybe at least that way us fans can hang on this fall
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These videos are keeping me afloat during this lockout. I’m afraid it could be a long one…sucks.
I’m going to wear out that DVD of Bob/Jim calling game 6.
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
@A Cup B4 I Died!,
Dig your new handle
Watching Bob and Jim call it makes this dream feel so much more real now.
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Awesome way to go Gary!!!!! Three lockouts as you tenure of hockey comish. There should be something said that this guy is BAD foR this wonderful sport and his head should be on a stick!!( hockey stick)
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
@Line Monster, Donald Stern is quite pleased with his understudy.
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Buster Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
@Kenny44,
Could it be because he’s not screwing things up for the NBA is WHY he’s so pleased?
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
@Line Monster, I believe its known as the Numbnut Hat Trick.
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Jim’s clap is funny.
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Mikefromearth Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
He’s exhibiting child-like enthusiasm, as I’m sure we all were! It’s adorable.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
@Mikefromearth, I was drooling with a ba-ba in my mouth so I can relate.
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jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
As funny as Westy’s after a fight?
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Stuart Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
@jess, nope, it’s the hair whip that adds to Westy’s funny…
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
@Stuart,
I assume you mean funny “ha ha”
(Sorry, Westy, but I’m just not a fan of the sideshow. You’re better than that and would do well to start believing it.)
Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
@jess,
Everybody funny. Now you funny too.
(Name that tune)
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jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@Kenny44,
One bourban, one scotch, one beer?
Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
@jess
Yes please!
Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:33 am
@Kenny44,
You lookin’ fer back rent, when you lucky to get any rent
So I pack my bag, an out the door I go…….
that was a nice little bunny hop by Bob on that call!!! so excited to see the entire game with their voices to it!
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we are officially living in the past!
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Stuart Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@Lake Forest, welcome to Raider-fandom… I’d like you to meet @DesertKing, @puck73 and others…
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Lake Forest Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
@Stuart, lol Nice!
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DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
@Stuart,
There are some guys in Pittsburgh right now saying to themselves “Whut happuned?”. Just like the Kings, all we got to do is make the playoffs and we got a shot. Of course, you could be a Chargers fan and therefore fall into the same category as VanHoover fans, San Jose and Phoenix fans and never see a championship.
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Stuart Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@DesertKing,
just some good ole fashion ribbing from an ex-Rams fan… I get to throw as many stones as I can pick up because I’m barely getting reintroduced to football now that we’ve been locked out… looks like the game I remember it to be, without the emotional investment!
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
@Stuart
I saw where you were going. How could I refuse the opportunity to take a shot at my most hated franchises? Too bad 2007 had to happen
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@Stuart
I thank you for the opportunity to get in a shot at some of my most hated franchises. Too bad 2007 had to happen
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
@DesertKing, Yeah but the Raiders won’t make the playoffs and the Steelers always do. Good win for the Faders. Just lose baby!
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@Paul Armbruster
People said the same thing about the Kings and the playoffs last year. Never bet against silver and black.
Bob got real happy on that goal you can tell he was feeling the Cup was ours.
End the lockout you clowns!!
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Great video!
Gets me really pumped up for Frozen Fury this weekend!!!!
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lilcarp Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
@Sebastian, i really hope that was said tongue-in-cheek
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OT – if players wouldn’t be surprised, we shouldn’t be either:
[note: interesting pic there of Marty... and it is the index, after all!]
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/dan-cleary-thinks-lockout-could-longer-martin-havlat-175026593–nhl.html;_ylt=ArFZrNEJTzJW3jR4riKBiIV7vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTN1YmIyOW44BG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBOSEwEcGtnAzQwOGViMGM5LTRkMzMtMzZkMi1iYmY5LTU0Y2E2OTRiMjgwNQRwb3MDMwRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzk5M2JmY2UwLTA2NzItMTFlMi1iZjdkLTg5YjUwNmQ0NWVkZA–;_ylg=X3oDMTFoYWo1YzR1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuaGwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@Stuart, On the other hand, Foxy and Nickson believe it won’t last long at all… http://kingsnewsdaily.com/short-stop/
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), As much respect as I have for those 2 I cannot agree. The key point they seem to be making is that the NHL has learned their lesson from what happened in 2004-2005.
They haven’t.
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puck73 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@HockeyNerd, Totally agree with this post.
“Sad day”? Sorry Rich, but this is a pathetic day. Grown men, supposed leaders of their various organizations (on both sides), all of them making huge bank, can’t work out a plan and screw over the people who are actually footing the bill. That is pathetic, and when the Kings win the Stanley Cup next season, I will be the first to “boo” Bettman (which I didn’t do after our FIRST Cup).
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Forum Gold Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@DesertKing, The NHL has the most loyal and passionate sports fans of ALL the leagues and this is they way they treat us. i am just amazed at the lack of urgency shown by ALL parties. We deserve better.
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DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
@Forum Gold,
+1
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tornado12 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
@Forum Gold, It is because they know all the fans are loyal and passionate and will (eventually) come back that they dont feel a need to get it done. There is no pressure. No real consequences.
I have never been one to boycott, but I am seriously considering never going to a game in person again. I’ll watch on TV of course, but they wont get my money directly.
Wouldnt it be something if they came back to empty arenas? If only for just 1 game. It will never happen, but I think it would put some perspective into the powers at be.
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Now I didn’t catch all of the details when the news headlines for these stories came out.
But, were there actual people holding guns to the head of small market Edmonton Oilers ownership when they slapped about $80 million in contract dollar extensionns to Hall and Eberle?
Sorry, Bettman. In the war for the hearts and minds of the public’s opinion, YOU LOSE.
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We’re #1!
http://espn.go.com/nhl/powerrankings
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
@luc20rules, Love it. That’s the best post you’ve ever made.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Got it keep it short and as sweet as Chocolate Milk straight out of the Stanley Cup!
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jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@luc20rules,
Hey, JJ’s team is in 30th. Yikes.
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
@jess, Power Rankings are so subjective. Why don’t you look at a more objective measure like +/- before you . . um . . [yikes]
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jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
@Kenny44, Haha
another interesting read:
http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/09/24/ideology-bogs-down-nhl-and-nhlpa-dispute-peter-adler-writes/
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AEG got its downtown football stadium approved by the City Council today. Its conditional upon them being able to get an NFL team.
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paige Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
@paige, Leiweke said the sale of AEG was required to provide the nfl stability: Leiweke argued that the ownership change was inevitable, saying Anschutz
would be 128 years old by the end of AEG’s ground lease with the city for the
new stadium.
“We were going to go through a sale inevitably,” he said, adding that
new owners would provide “long-term predictability, not just for the city but
for the NFL when we make this project a reality.”
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paige Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@paige, the council ies expected to give final approval Friday
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puck73 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
@paige, Raiders lease in Oaktown is up in 2013. Look for Mark Davis to sell some of the interest in the team to the new ownership group here in LA very soon. Also, wouldnt be surprised if the Rams relocated back to this market as well since their lease is up in 2014.
Chargers arent going anywhere, the league will see to that.
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paige Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
@puck73, I keep hearing that it will be two teams coming to LA. I never followed football before…stupid lockout! At least the Raiders wear the right colors.
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puck73 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
@paige, Reggie Mckenzie is going to have to do a complete culture change with The Raiders, the same way Dean Lombardi had to do here. Hopefully Reggie learned alot in Green Bay under Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf, 2 people who are very good at player personel evaluation.
Now that Al Davis is gone, hopefully Mark Davis will be easier to deal with. So far, so good, hiring a president of team operations is the best move this orgnization has made since they hired both Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden back in 1998.
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@puck73
Nailed it!
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
@puck73,
AEG also just recently bought the Oakland Coliseum. The city of Oakland is dying. The Athletics are leaving and so are the Wariors. AEG arranges for the Raiders to move to LA then sells the Coliseum property to some developer. Half the fans at Raiders games fly in from LA or the Inland Empire anyway, so the game attendance is guaranteed. This has been in the works for awhile, even before Al died. Marcus Allem lighting Al’s torch is just another step to bringing the Raiders back to LA, since Marcus’ lory years were in LA, he is USC alumni, and people in LA love him.
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DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
@DesertKing,
“Warriors” and “glory.” Some day I will learn to tipe.
Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
@DesertKing,
How can you say Oakland is dying? I’m watching a Desination America HD show about Oaktown right now. I’ve learned about a thriving sideshow culture with donuts at intersections, hollering at beaches, and that revenge is a promise there, you feel me.
Glorious. Just glorious.
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Well what can I say, Bob and Jim are by far the best in the business.
Great to see them get excited too, they are total fans.
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puck73 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
@jess, Love them as well. Gotta say though, Doc Emerick’s final call of the last 12 seconds of game 6 was a classic, loved it.
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jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
@puck73,
Yeah but I wish he’d put down his thesaurus and just call the damn game:)
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@jess, Amen. Take Kopitar’s overtime goal in game 1. I replayed that video about ONE BILLION TIMES before I finally realized he really DID say “twisted along”. Was something horribly wrong with saying “Williams to Kopitar”?
Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
@puck73, You mean the part where he just shut up and let us hear the crowd?
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puck73 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
@Kenny44, Let me repeat it for you, since your interested..” A remarkable, but inspiring run. For the first time in their 45 year history, a Stanley Cup for los Angeles, The Kings are The Kings !”
Hope that refreshed your memory Kenny, and thanx for the interset !
Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@puck73,
“A remarkable, but inspiring lack of verbs. For his final grade on a 12 second transcription, a D- for our profoessor. Who talks like that!”
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
@Kenny44,
He was actually supposed to say “The Kings are the Kings of hockey.” The way he said it was similar to saying “The Ducks are the Ducks.” As Bugs Bunny would say, “What a maroon!”
Bob Bobson Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:55 am
@puck73, OK, both his last statement and shutting up were good ideas. Have to give him credit for that.
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
@puck73,
Is that the part where he joked on a puck while praising the Devils then coughed up a pitch fork when they performed the heimlich manuever on him? I hear his voice and think “chalkboard, fingernails, stupidest kid in the class.”
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DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
@DesertKing,
Dang, I am on fire today – “choked” not “joked”
puck73 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@DesertKing, Wow, couldnt disagree more.
DesertKing Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
@Puck73
12 seconds doesn’t make up for the prior 10 horrible games. Personally, when I listen to it, it sounds more like he forgot what he was supposed to say. Bob and Jim are the quintissential best announcers in the league. They call it like it is, they are not “homers”, and they never rely on stupid “catch phrases” or ridiculously loud and annoying sound/voice effects. DOC EMMMMMEEEERRICCCKKKK tries to entertaain you, while Bob and Jim inform you. The game and the players are the entertainment, not the announcers, not the referees and not the league officials. That said, we need to meet for lunch
jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
@puck73,
So did you have a swell time with @poorman today?
jess Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@DesertKing,
Agreed, he drives me nuts
Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
@DesertKing,
If we’re without Bob & Jim, at least give us Gary Thorn and Bill Clement.
Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:37 am
@Kenny44, at least I can hear GT&BC call games on NHL13!
Just had to post this- on Saturday my fiance and his brother were at the USC game with my uncle and aunt. I was invited but did not feel well. My uncle is an alumni so they were able to go to the alumni tent for drinks and food. Guess who showed up! Stoll, Richardson, Carter and King. He got pics with them. He said they were all cool guys. King was the nicest. I was so jealous!
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
@Bones, Hmm, now my memory of being there Saturday is diminished because I missed that. BTW – Richardson or Richards?
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Bones Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
@Kenny44, I believe Richardson, but could be wrong.
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FiG17 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
@Bones, there was a picture of them floating around. Lewis and Martinez were there as well.
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@FiG17, Now you’re just rubbing it in.
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According to some news outlets Gary Bettman is planning on canceling the Winter Classic by Nov. to take that leverage from the NHLPA . This is getting out of hand .
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Watching the last minute of game 6 in the Finals NEVER gets old, does it? I could watch that (and listen to Bob/Jim or Nick/Darryl) forever and not get tired of it! It’s still surreal to me that the Kings actually won the Cup!
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Where can I make 8 million a year to head a company, lock my employees out THREE times and deal with issues from my customers by totally and completely ignoring them? Count me in!!!!!!
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The goal was Carter’s on the tip.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@Munchrat, That is one thing that drives me crazy about the game I love so much — even after 35 years probably a good half the time I have no idea who scored the goal. I’m impressed that announcers get it right as much as they do.
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but there’s going to be an nhl season right? right?
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
@11 or 3, I would not hold my breath. The league has absolutely no intention of negotiating, in fact they have pretty much stated the more money they lose by the season not starting the worse their offer gets. They call this “committed to negotiations 24-7″. I call it “extortion”. Worked perfectly in 2005. Why change?
For their part Fehr was not hired by the players to just cave in to everything the owners want.
It does not look good at all.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
@HockeyNerd, Sadly this is my exact take on this. I have probably posted in different wording the exact same thing. As has may Journalists. Really there is no need for great details you have summed it up very nicely.
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I swear, if they can settle this thing quickly, I will never complain about officiating, Ryan Clowe cheating, Shane Doan’s crap, Mike Smith assaults, the Warroom’s screwing us on goals with high sticks, etc. (yeah, I’m lying, but Bettman don’t know that and even if he did, its what he does naturally so it ain’t no big deal to him).
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Bob’s reaction is priceless.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
@FKA PakiFro, I like how Jim reacts. He claps and cheers instantly, and just as quickly calms down. He sits and appears to be looking around to see if anyone saw his reaction.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
@luc20rules,
Clearly, he’s a fan first…but then suddenly remembers he’s also a professional.
Great stuff.
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I like the comparison of Bettman negotiating style to Legendary Turkish Crime Boss Keyser Soze from the Usual Suspects.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8420976/winter-classic-threat-test-gary-bettman-iron-will
The NHL may loose all its traction, but Bettman’s(the owners’) ego will remain unscathed.
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KC23 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:46 am
@luc20rules, You know Daily is talking out of his rear when he says the Winter Classic has nothing to do with the negotiations.
Personally, I think this thing will be over sometime in early to mid November.
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K I’m ready for the 3rd goal now…plz…
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Rich-
Wondering your thoughts on the NHLPA de-certifiying, like the NFLPA did last year.
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Just effin amazing ! This is the best thing ever…..
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Probably not the CBA people are thinking about, but did anyone else think the NFL Balt. vs NE game was the most poorly officiated game they ever saw? The NFL is making boat loads of money and maybe the NFL officials are overpaid, but their the best at what they do. I really didn’t think the scabs would be this bad. IMHO the term integrity of the game comes to mind.
I mention the NFL & Refs CBA, because I really, really, really hope the NHL comes up with a new CBA. I won’t go out to see scabs play even if the standing points count. I would probably just give my season tickets to a charity during the scabs games.
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CB14 Reply:
September 24th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
@luc20rules, How can you mention bad NFL refereeing and not bring up the Packers getting robbed in Seattle tonight? These refs suck.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
@CB14, My bad had to Tveo it and didn’t watch it until after I posted. Even the Seattle players are saying its hard to take a victory you know you don’t deserve.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 7:44 am
@luc20rules,
I have to believe that as much as people hate NHL refs, scab NHL refs would be WORSE than scab NFL refs, which is pretty hard to imagine after last night’s disaster. #worstcalleverperiod
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KC23 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:50 am
@luc20rules, As long as the revenue is not interupted I doubt they care all that much. If anything NFL games are more entertaining with the replacement refs. Does anyone really think the NFL popularity will suffer to the point of losing revenue? I doubt it.
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:53 am
@KC23, not at all… it won’t become an issue until the owners are fed up with things…
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Deke'r Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
@KC23, ….highly unlikely….it’s like bad weather…..both teams have to endure the same atmosphere….actually adds a bit of mystery to the game…..what will happen next???……
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
@KC23, I’m not sure if they counted Fantasy Football Leagues, but I read an article that claimed there was more money changing hands in illegal Football Gambling than is spent on Alcohol during Football Season. If this is true I doubt the trend would continue with people believing the Scab Refs are having the deciding factor of games more or less point spreads. Not much viewship for WWF and probably less wagering. The NFL viewing and wagering maybe closer linked than people think. I just know I spent my first 2 picks on small WR and these scabs have taken Jordy Nelson & Wes Welker out of the games allowing the holds and downfield contact.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
@luc20rules, If people stupid or just addicted and wager more than they can afford in an economy like this. Think Indecent Proposal & Buffalo 66. Scab Refs? Refs for HS likely not making much money, maybe laid off their regular job, but at the show for a short time somebody pays them $10,000 to throw a game probably less? Then there was that Facebook Saints Fan Stropolo (sounds like a good fella?) set to do the Saints game, before being pulled because ESPN checked out his Facebook Pictures.
Any Insiders want to Ref a Kings Game(Stay off Facebook with your Kings Gear)?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8386973/nfl-pulls-replacement-ref-new-orleans-saints-game
luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
@KC23, Money, Money, MONEY?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8422934/seattle-seahawks-vs-green-bay-packers-disputed-mnf-call-shifted-150-250m-bets
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In a way, these occasional video postings remind me a lot of last season. We waited a pretty long time between goals then, too.
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Shakes Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:06 am
@FiG17, …but at least we now have hope that we will score a goal again. At the beginning of the season there were games when we’d go down 1-0 in the first period and i would literally be stuck thinking “oh boy, i’m not sure if we can get out of this hole”
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KC23 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:51 am
@Shakes, I thought that way pretty much until well after Carter showed up.
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
@Shakes,
Many of us felt that way. Very maddening, but it felt that way the season before also. For me it didn’t change until about 10 games into the coaching change. I liked the changes in play even if there was still doubt about wether it would be enough to sustain an effective attack.
Obviously it ended up proving true as we neared the 20 game mark, and the playoffs were a dream come true as far as dominance. Even with the right peices, the way they played with everybody on the same page and everybody buying into the system, even Penner couldn’t be a screw up!
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Glass is half full thoughts of the morning
- At least if we lose some games (but not the whole season) the Ducks won’t have enough games to do their annual nose-dize for the first half of the season followed by an epic winning streak to make a playoff push
- Hopefully a shorter schedule will mean that we play Columbus one less time… a team we seem to have a weird time beating at times
- Quick will stay more active on his Twitter account which can be pretty funny
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:39 am
@Shakes,
- Not to mention we’ll get our mid-season collapse out of the way early.
- Timing is everything.
- And scary.
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Lokti on the Cup… http://bit.ly/QS4Qt8
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Sebastian Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), haha thats awesome. can you do my name?
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
@Sebastian, It takes quite a bit of time to make it look good but it would be cool to do a bunch of us as a momento for the great season.
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Just do Hammond and it will count for all of us here.
luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), He went to the KHL while obligated to report to Manchester remove that immediately! LOL
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11 or 3 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), wow paul, i had just finished photo shopping lokti out of all the kings pictures from last year…
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Great call by both. They feel like family to me and both looked like they needed a hug after the goal. GO KINGS GO!!!
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Off topic. Hey Packer fan ! You think you were mad last night after what happened? Try having that happen in a playoff game and see how mad you get!
To this day, I have never forgotten what The NFL replay officials in NY did to the Raiders in 2001 in Foxboro. They had another chance to stick it to Al Davis, and they took advantage of it. But the reason you knew it was Raider ball was not because of the replay, the real easy way to tell was watching the Patriots reaction after the referee signalled Raider ball. They walked off the field dejected and silent…They knew.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:12 am
@puck73,
I love the ‘off topic’ disclaimer. I think you mean ‘off sport’ or ‘totally unrelated to hockey or this blog’ or ‘raidersinsider’ but I’d prefer ‘Raiders suck’ and leave it at that.
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puck73 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:16 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Typical response from the many football fans across the counrty who said it couldnt happen to a nicer Old man in a jump suit, with granny glasses. The fact is tough, it was every bit the atrocity as what happened to the packers last night.
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:22 am
@puck73, Every Raider fan should boycott Kraft products!
Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:17 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), I tend to put OS when talking about other sports too…
@tuck[rule]73, that ship has sailed long ago!
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puck73 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:27 am
@Stuart, Easy for you to say that, your not a Raider fan. My point is, its a catastrophe when it happens to nice, clean, wholesome organization like The Packers, but on the other hand its absolute comedy when it happens to the mean old Raiders.
I also love it how you say “move along”. Oh, you mean kind of like some people on this blog should “move along” about Bob Miller not being able to broadcast the Stanley Cup? I guess since its Bob, thats ok, we should bitch about it, and blast Doc Emerick every chance we get.
Is that how it works?
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
Raiders suck.
Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:37 am
@tuck73, LOL now you get it! Hey, the Radiers worked hard to gain that reputation that they wear with pride… can’t be wholesome Raiders! It just doesn’t work. It would be like that scene in Weird Science where the bikers come in and wreck the party and then as they leave they’re all polite, one’s a teacher, etc… LOL
And me personally, I like Doc’s voice and the words he uses to call a game (and I don’t need a thesaraus either, most of the words are plain old english)… But I think your energy is misguided about what people should move along about… like oh’ say, an ex-coach that did wonders for this franchise even though he wasn’t able to seal the deal… now THAT’S what people on this blog should “move along” about!
puck73 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:41 am
@Stuart, I could possibly move on when it comes to TM. The problem is, there are still several on this blog that feel his name should be on the cup, and also feel that he is the reason that we were able to win the cup in the first place!
Just sayin.
Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:50 am
@puck73, true… and they would like JJ on there too! I would like to have Bob on there, but maybe you see that they same way as having TM or JJ on there? I would not say he’s (talking TM here) THE reason, but I do feel that his contribution to this team cannot and should not be denied. It’s different than when Bylsma took over for the Pens, and I understand that DS is more the reason for the success, but to ignore the contributions made by DS is childish and IMO blinded by the disdain that some still hold for him. And if nothing else, maybe TM’s contribution could be seen as dumbing down the players so much that they were starving for some real leadership to wake them up from the duldrums…
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:50 am
@puck73,
move on? yeah right!
the TM horse could be dead and buried and you would unearth it with your bare hands just to kick it’s bones.
TM would make a great coach…for the Raiders!
puck73 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:54 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), This was an awesome thread, loved it! And your right, I will always be lurking in the weeds, waiting for an oppurtunity to trash TM, Sydor, Melrose, Mcnall, Benning, and Buskas any chance I get !
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@puck73, Is Crawford & Cloutier really omitted, or just an at the momment lapse in recall.
variable Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
@puck73,
here’s a microcosm of a typical adversarial and contradictory point of views by daryl katz and his ownership group and bettman…
“….The news comes on the heels of reports that Katz was frustrated with Edmonton city council over stalled negotiations for a new arena in Edmonton.
On Tuesday, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman released the following statement regarding the arena situation.
“We continue to believe that an arena deal is achievable and with a new arena, there should be no reason to have any doubts about the future of the Oilers in Edmonton,” said Bettman.
Speaking to the Edmonton Journal last week, Katz said, “What’s come out of the city over the past several days, to be frank, is unfair, untrue and totally counterproductive if what we’re trying to do is secure the Oilers’ future in Edmonton and have us participate in the development of a new arena and sports entertainment district.”
doesn’t this already begin to sound like a phoenix situation…?
a future art modell midnight run, escape from edmonton….?
obviously, there is some political posturing going on here by katz and his peeps to get the alberta politicians attention and scare the living daylights out of oiler nation, hoping that their outcries will put added pressure on the city to get a deal done…
but we’ve seen this movie before…
in hartford…
in phoenix…
in winnipeg…
in long island…
in florida…
bettman cannot be wrong..he cannot come out and say,”i’m sorry, but we were wrong about (name yr city franchise)…”
he will never admit that the league should be a 28 team league…i rather have 28 healthy franchises than have to revisit this subject repeatedly, year after year…and now new jersey is in trouble…when does it end….?
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Michael J. Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
@puck73,
Let’s not forget the “Immaculate Reception”, nor the Rob Lytle fumble that cost thr Raiders a trip to the Super Bowl.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
@Michael J., These were very lucky plays that went against the Raiders. I think we are just looking at bad calls/rules that cost a team. The Raiders did have the Holy Roller go their way. A rule was put in to take fumbling forward away in the last 2 minutes of games.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
@luc20rules, submitted to early, the next offseason the rule was put in.
luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
@puck73, IMHO that is a terrible rule, not a horrible reversal. The tuck rule is basically if you pass or pretend to pass and loose the ball before ending the throw or fake motion to throw its a pass attempt. It should really be the throwing motion ends if the ball is under the thrower’s shoulder.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
@puck73, Money = Outrage?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8422934/seattle-seahawks-vs-green-bay-packers-disputed-mnf-call-shifted-150-250m-bets
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Anyone else getting tired of seeing Oil Change played over and over on NHL Network??
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:20 am
@Mudfish4, cancelled that package last month… got tired of that… and all-star game(s) and their pregame shows (ditto on WinterClassics, too)… and meaningless games from various regular seasons past… all of the BS playoff series in the east… and only every now and then some pertinent playoff games from the Kings magical run! What’s up with that??? When BOS won, all they showed was BOS vs VAN ad nauseum!!! F the least coast!
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Shakes Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:46 am
@Stuart, well to be fair, they have showed A LOT of the Kings run over and over again this summer. I can’t imagine if the Kings would’ve lost. it would’ve been terrible.
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:52 am
@Shakes, maybe, but it seemed to me that everytime I would put the channel on last year, I was getting BOS vs VAN shoved down my throat. Or every game of every series BOS played in leading up to the finals… And had the Kings lost, I’d bet we see those games EVERYDAY right now… lol
It isn’t a Kings game unless Bob and Jim are calling the action. I can’t wait for my DVD to come in the mail next month!!
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Off Topic again. Loks like Kevin Lowe, Oiler ownership, and the rest of their brass is in Seattle talking to officials.
HEY ! GARY BETTMAN ! You fought tooth and nail to make sure Phoenix stayed put, WELL ? What the hell are you gonna do about this Gary? !!
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:51 am
@puck73, can you imagine the rioting that would go down in EDM??? it would put Vanc to shame! And GB wouldn’t do anything about EDM, he only saved PHO because that was his pet project. He was about to stand by and watch PIT sink…
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KC23 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:55 am
@puck73, That is just BS posturing by Oiler managment and a free trip to see Monday night football. And what’s up with the Oilers owner’s hair?
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puck73 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:02 am
@KC23, hair? Apparrently you havent seen Mike Ilitch recently. He has the worst, phony Lettuce I have ever seen !
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:10 am
@puck73, both of those guys look like they just slap the rugs on their domes with no regards to where the tag should go! LOL Not to mention Ilitch looks like he died 2 years ago!
Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:16 am
@puck73, classic:
http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/nhl-owners-ready-for-a-fight
Sebastian Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@puck73, it smells a whole lot like the Kovalchuck trip to LA a 2 years ago to me. Its just the Oilers letting the city know they are serious about wanting a new arena. jerk move by the Oilers though.
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Shakes Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 11:45 am
@puck73, The Oilers ownership should also make a trip down to Irwindale just for old time’s sake
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puck73 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@Shakes, Good ol Irwindale. Yah, they wanted the Raiders really bad. Only problem was, 2 years after they made a deal with Al Davis to build a stadium off the 605 in that gravel pit, they discovered something…..they didnt have the money to build it like they thought they did !
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@puck73, is that what that hole (pun intended) debacle was about???
variable Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
@puck73,
sorry…posted this on yr other post…:
here’s a microcosm of a typical adversarial and contradictory point of views by daryl katz and his ownership group and bettman…
“….The news comes on the heels of reports that Katz was frustrated with Edmonton city council over stalled negotiations for a new arena in Edmonton.
On Tuesday, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman released the following statement regarding the arena situation.
“We continue to believe that an arena deal is achievable and with a new arena, there should be no reason to have any doubts about the future of the Oilers in Edmonton,” said Bettman.
Speaking to the Edmonton Journal last week, Katz said, “What’s come out of the city over the past several days, to be frank, is unfair, untrue and totally counterproductive if what we’re trying to do is secure the Oilers’ future in Edmonton and have us participate in the development of a new arena and sports entertainment district.”
doesn’t this already begin to sound like a phoenix situation…?
a future art modell midnight run, escape from edmonton….?
obviously, there is some political posturing going on here by katz and his peeps to get the alberta politicians attention and scare the living daylights out of oiler nation, hoping that their outcries will put added pressure on the city to get a deal done…
but we’ve seen this movie before…
in hartford…
in phoenix…
in winnipeg…
in long island…
in florida…
bettman cannot be wrong..he cannot come out and say,”i’m sorry, but we were wrong about (name yr city franchise)…”
he will never admit that the league should be a 28 team league…i rather have 28 healthy franchises than have to revisit this subject repeatedly, year after year…and now new jersey is in trouble…when does it end….?
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@puck73, Seattle seems like it would be a good home for the Cryotes. It would keep them in the Pacific Division. I think realigning the Pacific Division to by LA, Anh, SJ, Van, & Sea(Phx) would make Geographical Sense, but that would be one tough Division. I guess Sea(Phx) & SJ are on a downward trend hopefully. Although that would likely make the Central Division the weakest in NHL History.
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OT – regarding Doc… I wish I would’ve seen this sooner!
http://www.puckpress.com/blog/puck-humor/doc-emrick-playoff-bingo
BINGO!! In the first 5 minutes of any given game!!!
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DesertKing Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
@Stuart,
The guy sucks. I can only stand him when he does Kings, and only because it is the Kings playing. Anyone ever consider that one of the reason why TV ratings for hockey is poor is because viewers can’t stand listening to this guy. He sounds like he should ne calling WWF wrestling matches or working in a carnival.
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Michael J. Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@Stuart,
That’s pretty good. Now all I need is the Brian Heyward addistion to complete my set.
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DesertKing Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
@Michael J.,
Thats easy to get, just follow these steps:
1. Go to your back yard
2. Find the spot where your dog went #2
3. Step on it till good and flat
4. Write “Heyward” on it
5. BINGO!!
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more and more players are heading overseas….
if more and more players are finding work elsewhere, you have to give some credence to the idea that many are prepared to wait it out, since they have some kind of income coming in….
here’s the growing list…look for some of the NHL’s biggest names…
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=75388
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Sebastian Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
@variable, According to that list, which is incorrect, Kopi plays in the Swedish Elite League. Fun fact, Kopi’s team Mora plays in an arena capable of seating 4,514 people.
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variable Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
@Sebastian,
yes…they made a mistake on kopi and some others…i could find another source at the time…so, tsn is lagging behind – surprisingly…
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variable Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
@variable,
“i couldn’t find…” it should read…
I love the replacement refs in the NFL. The most penalized team in the NFL for the past 10 years, my beloved Raiders, were called for only 3 penalties last Sunday. Since the NHL has forsaken us, I want to talk football with you! Encinitas, Oceanside, Fallbrook, North County, call in with your reaction! Charger fans, if the Kings can win the Cup, why can’t you win the Bowl? Reaction! Gary Bettman – 3 strikes and he’s out as commissioner – wait, this isn’t baseball! Talk to me since I want to talk sports with you!
(yep, the good ole’ days of sportstalk radio)
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Stuart Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
@DesertKing, is that you Hacksaw??
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DesertKing Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
@Stuart,
No, just the best 15 minutes in sports radio!!
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
@DesertKing,
Raiders Suck! he he he.
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DesertKing Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
@Dominick (defrim65),
E tu Brutus?
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
@DesertKing,
Let me slay the, my Ceasar.
DesertKing Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
@Dominick
Remind me to never be your boss!
Michael J. Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
@DesertKing,
“I want to talk sports with you”
And of course there was his live, on-air, “near death” choking incident.
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DesertKing Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@Michael J.,
Thats what happens when you are a Charger fan. All those fights at Qualcomm are the Raider fans performing the heimlich manuever on the Charger fans.
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Kenny44 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
@Michael J.,
The ‘Saw’s caller sign off still cracks me up most: “Thank you for calling. Thanks for participating. I want you to become irregular!”
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OT: good point posted by “old soldier” on a TSN article re CBA, but more precisely the disconnect by players. Kind of makes me feel a little more neutral about taking sides:
old_soldier
15 mins ago
“Another example of the Players Just Not Getting It when it comes to relating to fans. A quote today from Mike Fisher: ‘This is my passion, but it’s not my life… The fall is a good time for fishing and other things.’ Now at first it seems like an innocent comment from a really nice guy. But if you think about it for a minute, it’s a simple statement about entitlement. How many of us get paid for our ‘passion’. How many of us have benefited so much from our ‘passion’ in a short time that we don’t have to worry about maintaining a lifestyle and can focus on ‘fishing and other things’. How many of us would love to have the luxury and peace of mind that can allow us to thumb our noses at our bosses and enjoy life at a casual level. Most people think I am lucky, retired at 49 and a comfortable lifestyle, but I spent over 30 of those years busting my ass, and paying the price for what I loved to do. My career cost me a marriage, cost me friendships and cost me more than a few pieces of blood and bone. Yet even after that, I don’t have the luxury to spend my time fishing and not worrying about bills, cars breaking down, a leaking roof or anything else that could dramatically alter my lifestyle. These guys (the players) really don’t get what life is really like; it’s obvious every day in the things they say. It reminds me so much of a movie I watched called ‘The Company Men’ about high ranking execs that were fired when their fortune 500 company downsized. They just didn’t get that average Joe doesn’t golf every day, because it costs money, they just didn’t get that image doesn’t matter when compared to cost and why they couldn’t keep their Bugatti instead of a cheap Ford. They didn’t get how people managed to live in homes that didn’t cost a million plus and still be worried about losing it all overnight. They didn’t get that $1000 a month on restaurant bills is more than Joe average pays for groceries and feeds a family. They honestly didn’t get it. And I think that sums up the players as well. Every day, a player we idolize and worship, open his mouth only to prove, he has no idea who we are and what we go through. I think that is why so many former players, the ones who no longer have ridiculous paychecks and have to actually manage their lives are a lot less in favour of the NHLPA ‘s position. That’s also why I think that these players are comfortable now, but after they receive their escrow checks and then the money stops that their perspective starts to change. At least I hope so.”
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
@Stuart, I’m sorry but not seeing the point here. All of half of a paragraph from a player saying now he has time to so other things (granted maybe not the brightest thing he could have said) and suddenly IN THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE we get a 1000 word sob story of this guy’s life and how rich people don’t care and how players are rich people so they don’t care and they all grew up having anything they wanted at any time and none of them can identify with the “average Joe”, whatever that means? What exactly IS this guys point? Is it the players fault his car breaks down? That his wife left him? That he decided to retire at 49? That he’s worried about his next mortgage payment? I’ve got news for some people, not only do we the fans not owe anything to the players but THEY OWE NOTHING TO US. I know I am going to get some arguments on this but the checks Kopitar and Doughty cash say “Los Angeles Kings Pay to the order of…”, NOT “Hockey Fans”. Kopitar and Quick report to and take orders from Sutter, Lombardi, Stevens, etc., NOT US. If you don’t like how they play hockey or act in public don’t buy a ticket. That’s your right. But being judgmental about people you don’t know personally, especially on the basis of half a paragraph is frankly completely and thoroughly ridiculous.
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Stuart Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 8:46 am
@HockeyNerd, “What exactly IS this guys point?”
Well, I’m not that guy, so I can speak on what I took that point to be: namely, that players should take the money they’re being offered and move on already.
Much like the comments made by Devellano about Lucic… It must be hard to 6M worth of checks for a seasons worth of work. I think missed the point entirely on the above post. The person is not BLAMING players for anything other than being disconnected from reality. I didn’t read anywhere in that, that the author feels that the players owe the public anything other than doing their jobs, which they are not doing atm. If anything I thought it put things in a proper perspective, of how the herd views entertainment and how those providing the entertainment should be a little more grateful and appreciative that their brand of entertainment is sought after by the herd.
I will say this: as this stretches on, the fire for it to be over diminishes for me. It started off totally in favor of the players and anti-ownership, but now I’m about as indifferent as I can be. If this season doesn’t ever start, so be it. Initially I would’ve never said such things as “oh, I’ll never buy another ticket to see another game again” because I didn’t want to be that hypocrite, but I’ve actually found myself having conversations lately where I’ve really begun to give the idea some credence… I know, I’m only one person who might only be responsible for about 300-600$ annually spent on the Kings, but I really think I’ll be attending more minor league games in the coming years where I can see hockey played just the same… I’ll still root for the Kings and be as big a fan as I am now, but I won’t spend on my passion the way I once did.
but I digress… I’ve never been one to think that we as fans comprise a paycheck for players anywhere, in any league (except for maybe the GB Packers), so you won’t get any arguement from me there. It sounds kind of like you chose this persons rant to launch your own, and that’s fine too… the point of this rant was “These guys (the players [and obviosuly some bloggers]) really don’t get what life is really like” I’m sorry all you saw was someone’s sob story and you missed it. Perspective… it’s like navals: Everyone has one but most hardly pay attention to it.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 9:22 am
@Stuart, “The person is not blaming players for anything other than being disconnected from reality”. And that’s a valid point and rant to make except the small little problem is this: how do you make such an argument from one NHL player simply saying he has more time to do other things to what you perceived as his point which is players should be more thankful and appreciative of the opportunities they have? How on this earth is this guy giving us a sob story on HIS life struggles doing that? This guy took something ONE player said that admittedly he should have thought through before saying to the media and tried to use it to make a much bigger point. Unfortunately I don’t see what one thing has to do with the other.
Stuart Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 9:31 am
@HN, and that’s valid too… if you can’t see it then it isn’t there.
So since no ones starting the season in Europe, that means no Stanley Cup winner this season. Everybody hoping for a season have already been pre-destined to lose out, but at least 1/2 the coaches that could have gone will have thier jobs for 1 more season.
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I aint all happy. Today is my Birthday and I was looking forward to the Kings spankin the yotes for a nice cap to another day older….
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Kopi Bryant Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
@KingsRule, Happy B-Day! Mine is tomorrow. But still no hockey :/
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Gary – Ok gentlemen, lets settle down and discuss the upcoming CBA negotiations strategy
Old Dude #1 – Who are you?
Gary – Gary Bettman, your commissioner?
Old Dude #2 – Oh yeah, huh, huh
Gary – Ok, I think we should use the strategy of a mantra I heard in a Kings Vision video.
Old Dude #1 – The Kings? This is a hockey league, not a basketball league
Old Dude #2 – When did we put a hockey team in Sucramento?
Old Dude Phil – He means the Kings, from LA, the team that won the Cup
Old Dude #3 – A basketball team won the Cup!
Old Dude Phil – No, my hockey team won the Cup. In LA. The Kings won the Cup
Old Dude #2 – Shut up Phil, you are an NFL owner!
Gary – Gentlemen, please, please, calm down. Drink some more hot cocoa. Now, you ready to hear the strategy?
Old Dude #1 – Yea, go ahead. Does it include any hot chicks, heh, heh, heh?
Gary – “All we wanna do is win, win, win, no matter what, what, what!” It even comes with catchy music and the singer sounds like Doc Emerick on a slight helium buzz.
Old Dude #3 – Brilliant!! What does it mean?
Old Dude #2 – I like Doc. I also like Depends.
Old Dude Phil – It means I’m going to lose money
Old Dudes Together – Shut up Phil, you are an NFL owner!
Gary – (and these guys pay me $8 million ayear. Like taking candy from babies)
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Stuart Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 8:50 am
@DesertKing, I heard the NFL and the refs met to talk about their CBA until 2:00 in the morning… the cronies in your conversation above must’ve thought those guys are cra-A-zee!!! LOL
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DesertKing Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Stuart,
Thats the NFL. What do they know about runni.ng a successful sports league?
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Stuart Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@DesertKing, yeah, no kidding! Those fools don’t know anything about how to negotiate!
Rich, I read an article stating that Slava Voynov will not be on the cup but you say he is.
I would obviously trust your list more than any other writer but can you tell me your thoughts on that? It may have been Loktionov they mentioned Thanks.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
@KingsRule, The article must have meant Lokti. Voynov as somebody who played the required number of games in the Stanley Cup final goes on without having to be petitioned.
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Another day, another Bettman inspired defeat. To heck with it. I’m heading to Vegas this weekend anway – will just catch a Blue Man show or something.
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puck73 Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
@Weasel, Dude, your bummed! lol. So weird, I never miss a frozen fury and yet I could care less this year. The reason? The Kings are The Champs ! I have been waiting since 1973 to say that!
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Weasel Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 11:01 am
@puck73,
But I SOOOOO wanted to hear the noise in that long corridor between the casino and the arena. And I love the stunned looks of the unaware casino patrons when the “Kings” army dressed out if Kings Jerseys marches through after the game. The foreign tourists in particular look worried then!
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Gail Web Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@Weasel, Hi and me and my son too, non refundable tiks, anyhow I heard that Tim Allen is at the Veniantian hotel, so I will see if we can walk over to go if not too far from MGM
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luc20rules Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
@Weasel, Start a Go Kings Go chant 5 mins before the show, and see if it gains traction. LOL
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Weasel Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
@luc20rules,
I’m debating wearing my King’s jersey anyways. Not sure if I should or not. I’m so mad at the NHL right now.
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DesertKing Reply:
September 25th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
@Weasel,
Maybe the Bluemen can do their show wearing Kings jerseys?
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Weasel Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 11:02 am
@DesertKing,
That would be way cool. But, don’t they already have a contract with the Dodgers?
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luc20rules Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@Weasel, Dodgers probably would be cool with it. Dodgers did an Awesome tribute to the Kings on August 24th. Thanks to @Puck73 40+ insiders were there on Dodgers Kings Night with a Kings Championship themed Firework and Scoreboard and audio presentation (Briggs “This is LA” & MCR “Welcome to the Black Parade”), also it was the first time I heard the audio of Jim & Bob calling the game 6 win vs NJ.
Thanks again @Puck73 it was awesome.
So what happens if a Canadian owner buys AEG and moves the Kings to Ontario Canada?
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Woohoo I’m in the video! Kopitar jersey with the crown on.
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Weasel Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@Brandon,
Nice. you can show it to your grandkids some day after the Kings win 5 of the next 7 Cups and say that you were a true Kings fan and not just a frontrunner that joined after their run of domination started.
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These vids will NEVER get old!
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@RichHammond, Alot has been made about who should and shouldn’t have been on the Cup for the Kings. I assume the LA Kings owner had the final say on how many, but who will get a championship ring. I am guessing that there is a Deluxe one for Players, Coaches, & Managers/Owners, and a lesser version for supporting staff. I’m sure the other insiders would like to know the lists for both. Puck73 probably wants TM to get a tier 3 cracker jack version.
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jess Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 10:21 am
@luc20rules,
I will raise the bar on @puck’s wishes to a ring which self destructs in 5 seconds
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luc20rules Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@jess, Missed it by that ” much.
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Kopitar rules. 1 goal and 3 assist yesterday for Mora.
Look at the highlights here. Beautiful first goal, and nice move and assist to the 2nd goal.
http://www0.c40000.dna.qbrick.com/40000/od/sttv/webbtv/sport/premierleague/1209/mb120925120925VasterasMora26/supertexttv_1.mp4
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7MILforHickey Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 3:33 am
@MacSwede, what kind of keylogger link is that.
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Weasel Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 11:05 am
@7MILforHickey,
keylogger link ? As in malicious website?
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so i dont think that i’m alone in that im still going to vegas this weekend. does anyone know of any kings fan gatherings friday or saturday night or if anyone would like to get together for some beers?
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Gail Web Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@DavidG, Hi David no you are not alone, I too asked before but no one said back anything if anyone would like to meet some where in Vegas, as it would be nice to meet up with fellow King fans, there wonder if MGM has DVD player in there lounge and we all could meet uo watch game 6 with a cold one?
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DavidG Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 10:33 am
@Gail Web, that would be fantastic! I would love to get together with some kings fans. MGM sounds like an ideal meeting place since we would have been there anyway.
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Gail Web Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
@DavidG, Hi David Yes they have a main bar near the check in to hotel, first floor, I stayed there last year since it was my first time to FF even though I been a Kings fan for twenty five years I never went and had such a great time last year for the first time, I bought tiks way early for this year, too now. So seems ok if you all like to meet at 7 PM or so in mail lobby of MGM since I am staying there again this time too. Or if any different places just let us know, either way I will bring my DVD just in case and of course I will be wearing some Kings gear for sure. I figure to do pool during the day, and Friday meet some Kings fans, and then on Sat pool again and find a show for Saturday night maybe?
Go Kings Go!
Weasel Reply:
September 28th, 2012 at 11:37 am
@DavidG,
Hi David and Gail,
We’re not going after all. I guess we just can’t muster the energy for a six hour drive without hockey in our future. Plus “Carmageddon 2″ makes it hard for our group to carpool.
Weasel Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 11:07 am
@Gail Web,
Post your gathering spot if you decide to gather. I’ll let my little group (trio of us) know about it.
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DavidG Reply:
September 26th, 2012 at 11:36 am
@Weasel, im unfamiliar with the layout of MGM but do they have like a “main bar”? i vote we meet there at 7pm and talk about the good times (6.11.12)
Hey Rich,
Since things are little slow right now I figure you’re probably looking for some extra. I was in Puerto Vallarta last week and found what might be a lead for you to sell an extra Munters unit.
Good luck!
https://twitter.com/mjm51964/status/250991755577659394/photo/1
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I was shocked to read that Bob McKenzie thinks the season is pretty much done.
I would normally blow it off as hyperbole, but he’s pretty in-tune with what’s going on.
I’d hate to say that I would consider giving up on the sport, but these morons are seriously going to test my allegiance. Cancelling 2 seasons in 8 years… there’s certainly good reason to throw in the towel.
I’m hoping that McKenzie is wrong for once, but this has a really bad feel to it.
I still believe in the end the players will cave, but perhaps that’s just wishful thinking on my part.
Bettman’s succeeding with his ultimate goal which was to kill the game.
Congrats to all for f****** up a great thing.
I have a new take on negotiations…..
kidding..sort of!
How about we lock Bettman and Fehr in a room together and have a lotto drawing for 10 fans to get 1 hour alone with those 2…Since their won’t be a season, at least there would have to be two new negotiators the next time
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