After a two-month journey all over the planet, the Stanley Cup has settled back in Southern California for a while. The tour, during which every Kings player, coach, management and staff member got at least part of a day with the Cup, started in July in Russia and Slovenia and eventually made its way through 16 U.S. states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Indiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin) and six Canadian provinces (Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec and Saskatchewan).
The Stanley Cup tracker map has been updated with stops and pictures — link here — and based on all the trips, the Cup traveled at least 38,230 miles in July and August. That’s strictly counting the direct miles from one city to another, and doesn’t take into account any longer routes, side trips, etc., but that’s still an impressive number, given that the circumference of Earth is approximately 25,000 miles.
The Cup is back in Southern California now, for this week’s rink tour and a few more “days” with staff members who live in the area. Before long, though, it will head East again, to visit with Luc Robitaille and a couple scouts, make an appearance in New Hampshire (state No. 17) with the Manchester Monarchs and then the big day in Montreal, when all of the names get engraved onto the Stanley Cup. Louise St. Jacques, who does the engraving by hand, can probably take her time. The NHL’s players and owners have no negotiations scheduled, as the clock ticks toward a Sept. 15 lockout.
It would appear a lockout is eminent. What a sad state of affairs.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
@RobSD,
May it only last 1-2 months…
–Would help Quick recover fully.
–Would let the hangovers fade away.
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Donald_S Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@RobSD,
It will be a crime if the season gets cancelled. Bob didn’t get to call the finals, but at least he could lord it over all the other media people for a season (smile). I know he was looking forward to going around the league with the Kings as cup champions. Dang all this contract stuff. Dang it to heck.
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I wish the organization had done a better job of letting us the STH where the cup would be so we had a better chance to see it, instead
of always seeing where it was from Facebook.
I understand it is at TSC now, had I known earlier I could have gone.
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Melissa Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
@hockey junkie they are having events for STH – I’m going next week. Maybe you should reach out to your rep and find out…
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hockey junkie Reply:
September 7th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
@Melissa,
Thank You finally spoke to someone and I have a date with Stanley!!!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 11:39 am
@hockey junkie,
It’s not at TSC. It’s at Toyota Motor main offices in Torrance.
I thought the same when I first saw the Twitter mention.
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hockey junkie Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
@Kingsfanone,
thank you… still wish i had better connections to see Stanley.
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The cup is at Toyota Headquarters today. A friend of mine took some pictures with it at work a few minutes ago.
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Is there something going on this Saturday? I thought I read something about september 8th
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laikaloco Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
@FKA PakiFro, yes…I’m getting older.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
@laikaloco,
Sucks to be you!
I mean…happy early birthday. There may be a cup bash in celebration of your birth.
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laikaloco Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 2:17 am
@FKA PakiFro, ALL RIGHT !!!!!!
Back from The Big Island in Hawaii. To leave there and come back here deserves a Big Fat TM….BUUUUUUUUU. On the other hand, @Jeff_R taking me and Pati to Nokia next week to hang with Lord Stanley deserves a Big YAAAAAAAAAY !
Glad to be back with The Hammond Bunch. Hopefully the negotiations turn positive real soon. And for all of you who came out to Dodger Stadium, and wished us a good time on our vacation, as they say on The Big Island….Mahalo!
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variable Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
@puck73,
welcome back…:)
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plywood Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 6:37 pm
@puck73, Aloha, wlecome back. Enjoyed your food blog.
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Did I hear that right? Landeskog the Av’s captain? Isn’t it only his second season? Kind of a risk, maybe?
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puck73 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 11:05 am
@FiG17, Surprising for Sure that he is a captain that young. That being said, I think this player is special, I really like the way he plays the game.
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Sebastian Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am
@FiG17, Landeskog is a great player, reminds me of a young Kopitar, definitely the future of the AV’s. Also keep in mind he’ll have 1 year in the NHL and 1 year (2012-2013) in the Swedish Elite League before he actually plays an NHL game as Captain.
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Shakes Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 11:40 am
@Sebastian, yikes!
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DesertKing Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@FiG17,
Good point. We saw how that young Dustin Brown experiment at Captain worked out
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Bob Bobson Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
@FiG17, Surprised Landeskog got the C over guys like Stastny and Ryan O’Reilly.
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
@FiG17, Not his first time as a “Captain”. He has also been an alternate under Alfredson internationally, and was the first European to ever to wear the “C” for Kitcher. The guys a born leader.
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
@Dominick (defrim65),
Yep born leader. Very good. I was surprised kind of though as well just because it was so quick, but i think he will still excel and was for sure going to be there captain at some point.
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Damn, I’m going to need hockey more and more as a buffer to this never ending political idiocy. Please get it done players/NHL, please find a way!
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Im surprised theres a Cup left to engrave…last picture i saw of it, looked like it had been dropped off the top of a bus and then run over, Real Madrid style.
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Really, really looking forward to seeing the cup in Manchester on 9/16! Thanks to everyone who is making it possible for the Kings fans in NH to see the cup and get our picture taken with it.
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puck73 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@Simarosa, I am really happy for you. Manchester has been a great affiliate, you fans deserve it big time as well, enjoy it my friend
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
@Simarosa, Post some pictures! Also try to get a picture of some of the Monarchs with it if any of them are still in town.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
@Dominick (defrim65), The Monarchs won’t be locked out and probably have practices scheduled soon. If not for the lockout CBA non-sense wouldn’t the young(Monarchs, Reign & Juniors) players be at Toyota Center for Rookie Camp right about now? My guess is the AHL have earlier practices setup maybe even scouts and GMs are looking at the young guys at the AHL facilities instead of the NHL practice facilities.
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IceGuy Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 8:57 am
@Simarosa,
Thanks to Manchester for doing their part to make Lord Stanley’s visit possible!
Looks like there will be a lot of Monarch fans here in LA for a while.
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It’ll need to be back in So Cal on 10/3 for the second STH photo op. Yay Kings!
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Karen Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
@lilcarp, Where will it bo on Oct 3rd?? give details please.
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I miss hockey.
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Dear NHL Owners and Players,
Please remember that an unsigned CBA means “Can’t Buy Anything” for your spouses and kids.
Have a nice day,
Joe $$ Fan
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it’s been a while since i’ve watched My Chemical Romance sing Black Parade on youtube. i think i will do that now.
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Shakes Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
@Shakes, i have now completed this task.
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DesertKing Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
@Shakes,
New task – go to Toronto. Find the Hockey Hall of Fame. Enter. Go to the Lucky Loonie display. Touch the Loonie and ask that the Kings win the next Stanley Cup. Relax, have fun then go home.
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Lake Forest Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
@DesertKing, Then find Bettman and destroy
Stuart Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
@Shakes, 45 minutes??? that must’ve been the extended-long version…
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
@Stuart, Damn dial up. Took him 41 minutes to down load it and 3 minutes to watch it.
Shakes Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 6:53 am
@Stuart, well I got sidetracked with the following other tasks, in chronological order:
1) work
2) watching Penner’s OT goal
3) work
4) flashmob high school graduation videos!
5) a compiliation of Dustin Brown hits from 2008-09
6) Black Parade
While NHL owners do their best to [figuratively] fit their fingers into the holes in their own sprung dikes, so to speak, there’s little reason for optimism for a new CBA coming together anytime soon. Pressuring the players into surrender has to look like the easy way out, and sooner or later– expecting later– that’s the likely outcome. It’s “worked” (although obviously not) for them in the past. Unfortunately, a lockout looks immanent. Rich’s take on this a few days ago was very good.
So what could occupy a piece of the fan’s void if there is not NHL hockey for several months? In Canada, junior and minor leagues have large followings, so it’s not like a _total_ deprivation of the game will result. But in the USA, minor and development leagues have very little following in _any_ sport, and it’s unlikely that will ever change. If it’s not adequately bright and shiny, most Americans won’t care.
Enter a limited, well-marketed serving of college hockey. Try and get some of it available nationally through major TV providers, perhaps on one of NBC’s networks, perhaps NHLN, could squeeze in a few big rivalry games (Mich/Mich State, BC/BU, Minn/NoDak). There may not be a better opportunity to grow the game in the US through a product other than the NHL. America _does_ like thoroughly-hyped college rivalries. It may be modest, but there’s an untapped potential market here. Streamed web broadcasts and/or extended (additional charge) cable packages are not going to grow the game; but accessible, well-promoted historically big college rivalries just might. Lockout or not, just seems like a good idea.
The college season is a month off, not much time to put something together, but one can dream of things that stretch present realities. Something along these lines may now exist (?) that I am not aware of, or may be in the works. [A quick web search didn’t reveal anything promising, except a sports writer posting a somewhat related view.] Perhaps I’m just grasping at unattainable personal phantasms. If other contributors have any insights, please post_
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Rich posted a link (http://kings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=640766&cmpid=rss-News) to a discussion regarding the idea of NHL uniforms taking on the look of the KHL or NASCAR—gaudy, shameless advertising sewn prominently all over everything. The panel seems to think it’s inevitable. Hate to have to say it, but they may be right. Man, that’ll be disgusting. Thankfully, through the years to come those already iconic images of the 2012 Kings hoisting the Cup won’t involve the players wearing loud, embarrassing, patchwork billboards.
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this negotiating process is like making a pb&j sandwich a year before you know yr gonna have to eat it – it’s inevitable…
they have chosen to take three months to get the bread out of the pantry…take another three months each to spread the jelly and peanut butter, respectively…
and now we’re just waiting for them to put the slices together and make it stick…and eat the sandwich…before sept. 15…
this is a sandwich that even jenny craig would be able to deliver on time…or even give gordon ramsay enough time to curse and act like he just tasted death from a poor sous chef’s kitchen, re-train them and get it right to serve it up to the masses….
but the nhlpa is no where near close to taking the smaller-type of bite the owners want them to take…as are the owners no where near the amount of jelly the nhlpa demands them to put on the bread…
lockout is now not a question of if it will happen, but when will it be over…and the players are gonna have to realize that it’s time to buy a whole lotta milk from the market, instead of trying to teat it out themselves from the livestock living on the owner’s properties…the nhlpa has no leverage and will have to take the bite – and learn to like it…learn to live on it…
like i said, i hope the nhlpa got milk…(or soy/almond/rice/coconut variations for those of us who are lactose intolerant)…because that sandwich is gonna be much more dry-tasting to the players than it ever has before…
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Stuart Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
@variable, sounds like somebody sat around watching too much cooking network with the long weekend…
what’s your take on the possibility of the PA getting a barn load of llamas and drinking that milk? I’d pay to watch same players different league.
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variable Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
@Stuart,
hehe…
i think the players will do both join euro leagues and maybe put together a 4 or 6 team traveling exhibition, similar to what the nba players themselves tried to make work…
it’s like how can you not know who is really driving this lockout….?
it’s all the owners…24/7…
now that would be the next plausible tv show/marketing idea that the nhk network should offer on the 16th – “nhl owners – operation lockout: 24/7″
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variable Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
@variable,
nhk network…?
yeah, them too…
nhl network…of course…if there’s still a need for one….
Stuart Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@variable, I wonder if there would be issue if the lockout lost the entire season and then some enterprisin players tried to start up a new league… would they be held accountable because of contracts that are already in place to NHL owners? Or does the lockout void all contracts during the time that the lockout is enstated?
I wish there was a way to bring the Owners to their knees…
FKA PakiFro Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
@Stuart,
Yea, I’m with you on that. A part of me wants the players to sign full year commitments at other leagues overseas to show the owners up…but it’d truly suck missing NHL hockey for a full year (or at all) again.
The other leagues seem to understand that revenue sharing is huge in the success of the league. Its like the owners want to fix the costs of each team based on league-wide revenue but then screw the lesser teams out of a fair share of league-wide revenue. Makes no sense.
About the only thing I agree with the owners on is the contract term limits..but not on the limits they proposed. I think three year deals for rookies are fine but after that, seven should be the maximum. That in itself would “protect the owners from themselves” as they wouldn’t be able to add bogus years at the end to bring down the cap hit for a guy who’s 26.
variable Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
@Stuart….
yeah…i’m not sure if that could happen…
the only time this has ever “worked” in any league in the modern era was with the usfl…and that only lasted four years…david dixon was the only one to ever pull something off as an alternative league for players during a work stoppage…
@FKA PakiFro…
re: large/small markets….
yep – that’s the real argument – the players are just bystanders at this point…the only way the players can gain any momentum in hopes of ending this stupidity earlier is either give in themselves or wait for the smaller market owners to unify, causing even more public outcry and pressure on the larger markets to make a deal where everyone shares the cost and the profit of all revenues equally…
it many ways, the league has never been healthier…that feels just so odd to say, but it’s true, UNLESS, the inevitable lockout happens…
then my guess is that their will be more suffering to be shared by all parties involved…and “sacrifice” and “compromise” are two words that might as well resemble a couple of pink elephants in a white-padded room with two zoo keepers in straightjackets and blindfolds…
ignorance might be bliss…but the owner’s current unified arrogance is one that can only dismiss all belief of a happy ending this time around…
Bob Bobson Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
@variable, There will always be a need for the NHL Network. Where else will I see Stanley Cup playoff Films from 1974 (I actually like those) or the same episode of Pioneers.
I think the KHL will benefit the most and get a big influx of players.
neil Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
@variable, World Hockey Asso. Saw many games…great times…Time again for new leagues to spring up…Its been awhile since the 4 major leagues have had competition.
luc20rules Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@variable, IMHO Bettman will make the NHLPA drink the Whole Milk even though they know the NHLPA is Diabetic & Lactose Intolerant thats just how he negotiates. With Bettman its not just important to get everything you initially ask for, but critical that you insult and are hated and despised.
But that is just my impartial opinion.
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variable Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
@luc20rules,
he’s got them by the naughty bits and is twisting them, like chubby checker….
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Stuart Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 7:57 am
@variable, c’mon bay-beh!!!
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:24 am
@variable,
NHL Nightmares
Hell’s Hockey
Master Negotiator
Hotel High Stick
Gordon Ramsay as coach would make Torts look like Mr. Rogers making a PB&J.
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I have a feeling Bettman will be gone before this is over.
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KC23 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
@BluLiner, Always fun to see a positive spin on a negative situation.
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Bob Bobson Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@BluLiner, This is doubtful. Bettman is a mouthpiece for the owners and serves at their convenience. If there is a lockout it is because of the owners, not b/c Bettman does not have a hockey background. That being said, he can sound very condescending and avoids answering questions from the media a lot which does not win him any friends.
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variable Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@Bob Bobson,
i agree 1000% with you…:)
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@BluLiner, What he said above. His record: 2 lockouts already, alienating long time fans with stupid rule changes, being booed everywhere he goes and his “if I refuse to deal with it then it’s not a problem” approach to goons, disgraceful post conference finals behavior (Phoenix) and blatant cheating (Clowe). And he’s still around after all that.
He’s not going anywhere, sad to say.
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CB14 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
@BluLiner, If he didn’t get fired when they lost an entire season, why would he get fired if/when they miss a few months? As much as I hate to say it, I think GB will be around for a long time.
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Stuart Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 8:00 am
@CB14, it broke my heart to read that McNall was a main proponent of bringing GB in as comish… from Puck Daddy’s Essentials:
“Bruce McNall single-handedly rescued this franchise from obscurity and in the span of 5 years he had put the team in such financial strain that it filed for bankruptcy in 1995. And even worse than that… as chairman of the NHL Board of Governors, McNall pushed for the election of Gary Bettman as league commissioner.”
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wes Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
@BluLiner, Gary Bettman is the servant of the majority of the 30 NHL governors, individuals who act as fiduciaries of literally thousands of investors, and not merely the high profile majority shareholders, although they obviously would have the most direct contact with their respective governor (also ‘an employee,’ of course). There is a tremendous amount of fiscal inertia pushing agendas that the commissioner dutifully pursues as a contractual obligation to his employers. He’s not a fan favorite, recount the reasons if you find it therapeutic, but he’s obviously meeting the requirements of his contract as far as his employers are concerned. He’s simply not the evil little autocrat so many fans love to paint him as. It’s a curious thing that so many fans cannot come to grips with the basic concept of a contracted fiduciary consistently taking the positions he’s paid and legally obligated to take. Bettman is abrasive, he isn’t charming, he isn’t handsome, he isn’t cute or cuddly, he isn’t funny or endearing, but if he was all of those things he’d still be bound to take the positions he does take. It’s his job.
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for those wondering what else timmy os doing these days as we all await doomsday, here ya’ go…:
http://www.farmersfield.com/page/share/a-message-from-tim?source=20120904Timupdate&utm_medium=email&utm_source=FarmersField&utm_campaign=20120904Timupdate
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CB14 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
@variable, I hope it gets built. Tim and Phil have made downtown LA the place to be for entertainment in so cal. A remodled convention center, and brand new football stadium would complete the area.
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variable Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
@CB14,
we’ve been on the precipice for years…
but minnesota just got saved…
and who knows what will happen with st. louis….even jacksonville with khhaaaaaaaaannnnnn….(!)….running the show…
then there’s the reeeey-deeeers…
expansion to england…?
contraction vs. expansion….?
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CB14 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
@variable, I think it’ll be St. Louis returning the Rams to their rightful city.
Stuart Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 8:02 am
@CB14, Los Anaheim? just kidding. If they came back, I’d hope they go back to the white/blue unis.
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
@variable, Am I the only one who noticed the bottle of KINGS wine in the background? I want me a case of that!!!
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variable Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
yes….
you have dibs on that….
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
@variable, Only if he shares. Otherwise I’m staking a claim too!
Is there anything us fans could do to get this thing over?? Media blitz, e-mails, signing petitions, threaten a “watch out” and not watch hockey even if it comes back on??
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HockeyNerd Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
@Debra Turull, The short answer is no. Why? Because all that would happen in Canada and to “big market teams” (including us after our cup win) is that people who usually can’t get tickets for whatever reason — waiting too long to buy them for a certain matchup say — will gladly take them off your hands. And the small market teams are being “boycotted” anyway, fans may not say that, but the reason those cities aren’t such an attraction is that too many people aren’t aware how great the sport is. Which BTW if those owners would just market the sport and let it sell itself instead of shootouts and overtime “sympathy points”…. See the thing is that I hated Bettman and the owners 10 years ago, hate them now, and will still hate them in 10 years. I expect nothing sensible from them EVER. I watch hockey IN SPITE OF HOW THEY ARE RUINING IT because it is such a great sport. I’m not going to stop coming and most fans won’t either. I come to watch Kopitar, Quick, Crosby, Malkin and Stamkos, not some billionaire or Gary Bettman. They are total jerks and frankly I don’t give a —- that they are total jerks.
I’m as unhappy as you and wish we mattered to the league but the sad truth is we don’t and a couple of petitions isn’t going to change that.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
@HockeyNerd, Agree 100%, but please don’t sugar coat things tell us how you really feel.
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It really SUCKS the owners are pulling this BS on which would be OUR CUP defending season! It just figures the Kings finally win the cup and the damn owners are going to lock out the players. On another topic, I have not been able to see the cup yet and this bumms me out too. I have not had the time off work to see a public appearance as my work requires a 2 week notice at least to take a day off and almost every appearance is a week day. 1/2 season seat holders as well as 10 game season seat holders have been locked out of the season seat invitations to come and view the cup & take pictutes too. Whenever I let this get to me, I simply watch game 6 of the finals and my bad feelings go away. At lease I was able to go to every home playoff game last season & I saw our boys win it on home ice! Unfortunately, this season (If we have one) I will only have access to 1 playoff game each round. Winning does change everything! All we can do as fans is hope!
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c4sraser Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
@King Alex, cant call in sick? bummers!
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luc20rules Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
@King Alex, Keep checking this site. Last weekend the cup was all over locally. Sunday afternoon I got my picture with the cup in Ontario, CA it was free at the Ayres Hotel near the Reign’s Arena on that day it was at Morongo Casino in the morning and Riverside at night. It was also at like 8 rinks around West LA on Saturday, but that was a raffle thing at $5 a ticket. There will be another tour of local rinks according to Rich, but the locations and times haven’t been released. I seriously doubt there are any tickets left, but Luc Robitaille is having a charity event at a bar in West LA area on Saturday, but capacity was only 242 people.
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It is what it is!
Still a Kings Fan, but have learned to not get too angry with things in life that are not in my control.
I’m buying the DVD soon, which will help!
Otherwise I’m just waiting (and crying to myself).
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Forum Gold Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
@Lake Forest, +1. A shortened season will be an exciting season. We are the defending Stanley Cup Champions. Still a big WOW for this oldie but goldie. GO KINGS GO!!!
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Looking at the Kings Webpage http://www.kings.nhl.com I saw the answer to the CBA problem. Additional signage. The 4 on 4 feature check out the Nascar Signage on the player on the far right. Owners could get a flat rate and players could get sponsor bonuses based on puck possession, hits, assists, & goals.
If we can just get pasted the goofiness of the Jersey’s its the answer. LOL!
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DesertKing Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 7:08 am
@luc20rules,
Just like soccer or CFL football. They could all wear “Bimbo” on their jerseys.
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Deke'r Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
@luc20rules, …..lookin like the euro league….
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KHL is cirling high in the sky above the NHL CBA negotiations.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/khl-ready-welcome-locked-nhlers-looking-capitalize-stoppage-222322731–nhl.html
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I wonder if the NBC Exec. got fired for the guaranteed payment to the NHL even if a lockout happens? Interesting article with the 2004 timeline from the last lockout.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/09/04/3489189/decock-nhl-lockout-timeline-coming.html
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CB14 Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
@luc20rules, I don’t see that happening. The NFL tried the same thing in their lockout last year, and it was rejected in court. I think the NHL’s TV deal will likely end up the same.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 9:17 am
@luc20rules,
If this season is lost, NBC will get an extra season at the end of the deal for free, since they would have paid for this season.
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wes Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
@FKA PakiFro, if that were true (the possibility of a season played without any major network money on the US side), the owners would be in different situation; serious negotiations would be moving forward. [unfortunately] the owners do not have that kind of gun at their heads, so to speak
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I haven’t seen this question recently, but does anyone know when the DVD with Bob Miller’s call will be released? I haven’t seen any updates or even a mention on a release date.
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Looking back at the playoff run over the weekend blew me away. Yeah it completely sucks what’s going on now but what a summer to be a Kings fan. It’s still much bigger that we won the Stanley Cup. Your too late NHL, we already won it.
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
@Mikey J., Sucks for the other 29 teams who didn’t win it, and have a lockout looming in the horizon. Ahhhh, good to be a Kings fan.
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@Donald_S,
Whenever it starts, the LAK will still be the 2012 and LAST Stanley Cup Champions. NOTHING can take that away from us. absolutely NOTHING
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DesertKing Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:08 am
@Gustavo,
+1
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I don’t even check this site every hour like I used to. Now maybe once every two days. I am just sick & tired of millionaires fighting over money when we can’t afford tickets to the games. I bought tickets to opening night to see the banner raising. Now that game probably won’t happen. I say screw them all – have another full year lockout & see how many of us come back. I won’t.
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OneTimer Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 9:07 am
@Howe9, wrote “…I won’t.”
No offense, but … yes you will.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:14 am
@Howe9, Don’t let the business side of it ruin your love of the game. Or not.
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Shakes Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Howe9, well i don’t check the site as frequently because it is summer, and there’s just less groundbreaking news. i will saw this, i may focus more on the Monarchs if we hit a lockout and probably comment about that here to help me through these tough times.
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neil Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
@Shakes, maybe rich will run a daily post on manchesters games..
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Shakes Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
@neil, for the record a quick bit of googling indicates that Munters indeed has an office in New Hampshire (Moisture Control Services in Plaistow, NH).
Problem solved: Hammer, you’re going East for the lockout!
Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
@Howe9,
Not the Kings fault. They are pawns just like all the players. It might be bigger than the game at times, but the game itself rules!
A self imposed boycot after they’ve already with held the game from you for whatever time will only to serve to take the game away from you for longer than it needs to be, and let’s face it, the NHL isn’t gonna suffer long term if they lose a few thousand fans, spread out through 30 teams.
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Never thought I’d see Frolov with a ‘C’ on his chest…let alone standing next to arguably the greatest Captain of all time. http://kingsnewsdaily.com/gretzky-back-on-the-ice-in-russia-with-frolov/
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DesertKing Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
Interesting that the article referred to Gretz as a fromer King amd not a former Oiler or former Ranger.
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Stuart Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@DesertKing, or Blue(s)…
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Shakes Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@DesertKing, Of his former teams, the Kings are the ones who have won a Cup most recently since his departure… (well also the only one to win post Gretzky)
there i said it, the Curse of the Great One has been broken!
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Stuart Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
@Shakes, the Oil won without Wayne…
CL Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
@DesertKing, You’re surprised that the article on a site called KINGSnewsdaily referred to him as a King?
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DesertKing Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
@CL,
Good point, I thought Paul was quoting the Calgary Sun article
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@Desert, LOL. I thought you were quoting the Sun article too! Yeah, I only mentioned him as a King on purpose.
DesertKing Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
@Paul Armbruster
I will stop quoting you quoting others if you stop quoting me quoting you quoting others who never actually said it at all :p
FKA PakiFro Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
<3
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Respect the FRO!
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variable Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
they have a whole different thang going on in russia/khl…
i guess this makes frolov government/kremlin eligible…
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Lake Forest Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), am i wrong or does it seem weird the way you referred to Frolov? as in he was former KINGS CAPTAIN
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variable Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
@Lake Forest,
they could have used a comma – yr correct in noticing their poor punctuation….
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
@Lake Forest, Fixed the wording. Thank you.
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Its official, I have recieved my “CUPWNNR” personalized plates from DMV and put them on my truck. Can’t wait to drive it to Vegas for Frozen Fury then to the Pond for the first Kings-Ducks game.
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Stuart Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
@DesertKing, that’s awesome!!! I’ll honk when I see you around town
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Lake Forest Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@DesertKing, See You Pee Weiner?
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DesertKing Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
@Lake Forest,
LOL!
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
@DesertKing, In Vancouver it would read Cup Whiner
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Question…
Are the Kings gauging single-game tickets for opening night? I just checked the Amex pre-sale and the last row in a section behind the net was $155 per seat. Is that correct?!?!
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
@FKA PakiFro,
Yep, they are. I just checked the Hurricanes game the following week and sure enough, they’re only 45 bucks. Jerks man.
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luc20rules Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
@FKA PakiFro, Seriously, are you thinking that game will take place. The NHL and NHLPA can’t even agree on what Hockey Related Revenue should be, nevermind neither side has given any concessions on being 15% appart in how HRR should be split between owners and players. The NHL & NHLPA aren’t even talking for the last 5 days, and neither side will admit to calling or asking for a recess from talks. I am hoping that there will be games in December, and think even if Daniel Webster were to decend from heaven to mediate the CBA Oct. games are off the table. Sorry just trying to be realistic. Well realistically I see no season at all. We are 10 days from the Sept 15 NHL imposed Lockout Date, and the sides aren’t even talking. See link below for timeline on the last lockout.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/09/04/3489189/decock-nhl-lockout-timeline-coming.html
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@luc20rules,
No….of course I don’t expect the game to be played as scheduled..but I am confident that a game with the banner raising WILL be played and that ticket will be valid for the game whenever it is played.
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Stanley Cup was at Ontario City Hall today… for a breif photo op for City Council Members, management of the Arena out here etc. I didnt get a pic, but one of my partners did.
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Off topic. Wow, are the Dodgers pathetic! They cant even beat teams like The Rockies and the Padres anymore. It may be time to fire Don Mattingly. The Kings got better after firing the perplexed, and bewildered TM.
Mark Walter, Magic Johnson, Stan Kasten, and Ned Colletti….get rid of Mattingly now, this team is uninspiring, and a effin joke.
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neil Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
@puck73, go giants!!! Dodgers have only one good pitcher…it would be like the kings trying to win with only one good defensemem
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Kingsfanone Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
@puck73,
As @neil notes above, baseball is all about good pitching.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
September 6th, 2012 at 8:42 am
@puck73, Off topic? Off SPORT! This ain’t baseball. You’re looking for LADodgersInsider
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neil Reply:
September 6th, 2012 at 8:44 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), But we mentioned the Kings in same post…does that count as being on topic????
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
September 6th, 2012 at 10:38 am
@puck73, They’ve only fell 3 games back since we saw them last week? That happens during a season in which they play 5 or 6 games a week. It might take them 10 games to work out a rough spot, but it doesn’t mean their done the second they lose a few.
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How it would sound if the crews from Star Trek were called in to negotiate the CBA:
Kirk – “Bettman, I-need= more power!!”
Scotty – “But Captain, I’m given everything she has to Bettman!!”
Bettman – “Can that food thingy make a vodka martini?”
Spock – “The proposal from the owners is llogical but calls for further observation.”
Kirk – “Bones-what-does-Spock-mean?”
McCoy – “Dammit Jim, how should I know? I’m a doctor, not a union negotiator!”
Uhura – “Captain, a signal coming in from Star Fleet!”
Star Fleet – “Jim, it is imperative that you reach an agreement. The Klingon hockey fans are threatening inter-galactic war if their is a stoppage of the season”
Kirk – “I-understand-but-what-does-it-all-mean?”
McCoy – “Dammit JIm, why can’t you understand that I am a doctor and not Doc Emerick”
Worf – “Doc Emerick? He is a Romulan and I must kill him”
Spock – “After listening to his play-by-play of the Finals, I find Worf’s proposed action completely logical.”
Bettman – “That machine makes a damn fine martini, and who knew that Whoopi Goldberg was a hockey fan?”
Guynan – “My name is Guynan, not Whoopi.”
Westgarth = “Can I fight Work?”
Kirk – “Where-are-these-negotiations-going?”
Picard – I don’t know, but what i do know is that a phase of humantiy guarantees a certain level of acceptable violence, and in the 20th and 21st century, this violence was expressed through a contest known as “hockey.”
Ryker – “Lets head for the holodeck and make up some fake hockey groupies?”
Picard – “Good idea #1. Engage!”
Bettman – “From space, my head looks biggeer than the world!”
Fehr – “Lets limit the sessions to 0 minutes or less. I have a headache and need to see Dr. Crusher.”
McCoy – “Dammit Fehr, I’m a doctor, not a redhead.”
Kirk – “Oh-my-god-look-Bettman-is-dead!
Guynan – “Thats what he gets for calling me Whoopi!”
#1 – “Look, now Fehr is dead!”
Dr. Crusher – “Thats what he gets for asking for a “happy ending.”
Spock – “The death of Fehr and Bettman have now rendered these negotiations completely logical. Captains, may I recommend we extend the current CBA with an adjusted revenue split of 55-45 so both sides can live long and prosper?”
Kirk – “That-would-work-Scotty-make-it-so!”
Picard – “Engage!”
Data – “I find all of this to be so human.”
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Kingsfanone Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
@DesertKing,
Damnit Jim. Are you retired from your old job or aren’t you?
Well done, Mr. DKing…..
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KFII Reply:
September 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
@DesertKing,
Thanks for the great laugh, I think we all needed one of those.
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I want the Cup to come to Orange County Like in Fountain Valley – Huntington Beach. Let us know when and where!! I hate that I have not been able to see it. It is my dream to see it up close!
King Fan since 1979!
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bucci talking about the obvious and imminent with former nhlpa leader paul kelly….
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8340904/talking-collective-bargaining-strategies-former-nhlpa-exec-paul-kelly
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Hey guess what everyone? While you a,lowers crying about a 5 dollar raffle to charity, the rest of us went ahead and donated….and now get to see THE CUP! wooooooooooo! Thanks for the lack of competition!
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Lake Forest Reply:
September 6th, 2012 at 8:58 am
@Purple Reign, Please link us to who was crying about a $5 dollar raffle to charity.
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shared from Chaz Curry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQs3O_IDas&feature=youtu.be
Let US be heard
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Anybody buying a Kings chair from Staples for $250.00?
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The Cup was at the Torrance Police Department last SAT, 01 SEP 12, courtesy of one of the asst. trainers who had it for the day. It received a full escort of a black & white and two Harley mc’s with lights and siren. It stayed there for about an hour allowing those of us waiting to have pics taken with it. Just an awesome experience, one I will not soon forget!
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