For a while, it became popular to refer to the Kings as ”Flyers West,” given the deep connections between the two teams. Now, is it trending the other way? As expected, the Flyers today named former Kings coach Terry Murray as the coach of their American Hockey League affiliate, the Adirondack Phantoms. The Flyers also named former Kings winger Ian Laperriere to the newly created role of director of player development. Murray and Laperriere also spent parts of their respective playing careers with the Flyers. Murray was under contract with the Kings for the upcoming season, but the Kings recently gave permission to the Flyers to talk to Murray about the AHL opening. Laperriere recently retired because of persistent concussion issues.
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Good-luck to them, Ian is a great guy and was & still is a fan of fans…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Sammuch,
Ditto that!
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
@Sammuch,
lappy was one of my favorite all-time kings…so glad he will still be in hockey after retiring as a player….
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
@Sammuch, Ian is one of the tuffest hockey players I’ve ever watched play the game in my 40 plus years of watching. He never seemed to understand the concept of pain, he almost seemed like he liked it.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
@Sammuch, Good New both good Ex Kings. Wish them the best of luck. Only down side is the Kings didn’t hire Lappy, but its rare to change to much after winning the cup. Yes, I had to squeeze that in Kings 2012 Stanley Cup Champions!
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rontheking Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
@Sammuch,
I hope Lappy will give solid advice, such as, “Hey, look at me. You have to fight with some left handed players once in a while, too…or you get a one-way nose like this….”
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Inglewoodkings Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 12:36 am
@Sammuch, Good for them. Lappi was a bad ass. Murray not so much. However,
Philly has been good to us so far
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Heck yeah!!! Kings East! Suck on those lemons Philly!!!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Stuart, I’m sure they didn’t realize how condescending “Flyers West” was.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Stuart, We do have a pretty good farm team in Philly, though.
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Pili Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, lol
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, rotflmao
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Anjin Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
@Stuart, funny that I haven’t seen 1 reference to ‘Flyers West’ in the past 2.5 weeks, did we win the cup or something?
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mikko makela Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@Anjin, Flyers West was stupid. We have Fraser, Stoll, Greene, and Penner, so why nore Oil South? They can’t claim Williams first of all, that’s like a second cousin, twice removed. Now the can’t claim any of the players, they are Kings of the NHL as Los Angeles Kings. I will be seeing a friend of mine from Philly in a week and I can’t wait to askk him how the Flyers LEast are doing.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
@mikko makela, It’s Always Sunny in LOS ANGELES.
luc20rules Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
@Shuchuk, that phrase makes way more sense.
Crown city simtom Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
@mikko makela, U mean Kings east
Both are good men. I wish them well in their new gigs.
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Two quality guys. Always liked Lappy. He wasn’t real big but he had a huge heart and always stuck up for his teammates. Terry Murry was (is) a good man and he did a great job for the Kings by establishing their defensive foundation. I wish both of them well.
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I was very critical of TM as Kings coach and was joyful to see him replaced. I wish him well in his new job which is one much better suited to his talents. He’s more of a developmental coach capable of teaching positioning and team-concept-defense than anything else. It will be his job there to prepare all the players on the AHL team for possible NHL duty and not simply coach them as robots in the big show as he did all to often with the Kings.
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puck73 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@Crown Royal, You hit that right on the screws! Great post!
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iceguy Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@puck73,
+1
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Paulhb Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
@Crown Royal, You’re certainly right that TM is a good developmental coach for a young team, which is exactly why the Kings needed him when they hired him. He had to teach this team how to play defense, hoe to play as a team, & how to win close games. Without Terry Murray there would be no Cup in LA yet. I was really surprised a young team like Edmonton didn’t hire him. I know he’ll do great things for the Flyers organization.
Really glad to see Lappy staying in hockey. One of the true “heart & soul” guys in hockey history. He was much more likely to get a Gordie Howe hat trick then a conventional one. Every locker room needs s guy like Lsppy.
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Paulhb Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
@Paulhb, And as usual my tablet’s spell checker thinks it’s smarter than I am….. :[
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
@Crown Royal, Well said. TM is perfect for an AHL coach.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@Crown Royal, When TM was hired he was the right man for the job. He got fired after he did the job that was best suited for him. He instill in the Kings the D first attitude, and developed some of the young players. Then DS was brought in as the coach to take us to the step TM couldn’t, but we did owe him the opportunity to try to take us there. What you will argue with DL is was the opportunity we gave TM too long. Judging by the result it is difficult to argue against DL. Remember with Kopi’s injury last year we weren’t going to win the cup.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@luc20rules,
… which, by the same token, you’d have to deem that injury as unfortunate to TM as it was to DL, true?
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Crown Royal Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
@luc20rules,
I’m not convinced DL wanted to fire TM when he did but rather may have been pressured from above to get rid of TM. Reports were that DL called out the team when he removed TM saying “the players cost TM his job.” I disagree with that statement if that’s what DL really said.
TM got HIMSELF fired because of his inability to make adjustments during games, wasting the talents of players like Moulson, Purcell, Moller, and was replaced by a better coach.
Mitchell said after DS was aboard “We were better prepared,” and Kopi said “We are probably more accountable under DS.”
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luc20rules Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
@Crown Royal, Its amazing how you bring up Moulson (-10 over last 3 years) who does score, but really hasn’t some how improved his team. Moulson just was never a 2 way player. That is not the way this team is going. That to me is why I think we were fortunate to not get Kovi. We won it all with team concept, D, pressure all over the ice, and Goaltending. Teddy Purcell is riding on the coattails of Stamkos. Moller really? Moller Swedish Elite League he must of gotten hurt only 19 GP 7 G 8 A.
Crown Royal Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
@luc20rules,
Moulson plays on a bad team. Moller would have been a good player and Purcell could have been better without TM. TM is an AHL level coach. That’s where he belongs. Yes, he was an improvement over Crawford considering the Kings needed to tighten up defensively but people are making TM out to be much more than he was. He was overated when the Kings hired him and he’s overated now-as an NHL coach. He failed in Philadelphia to win a cup, he failed in Florida to win a cup, this despite having some really good players. He was failing in L.A. until a better coach came in and showed how good the Kings could really become. He seems like a nice guy so I hope this job works out for him but as an NHL level coach, he doesn’t have what it takes.
Paulhb Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
@Crown Royal, Yet more revisionist Kings history. The Kings weren’t much better under D’s as they were under TM until the Carter trade. If they had been the Carter trade probably never happens.
You say people are overrating TM but you’re underrating him.
With all that said, I did try to warn everyone last offseason that Terry Murray teams always took two big steps backwards after 2 or 3 good seasons and everyone was saying I was being too harsh. So I’ll state right now that Terry Murray may be the best NHL caliber coach fir a young team that needs to learn defense & develop it’s players. Then another coach has to come in & push those teams to a championship. Daryl Sutter did that for the Kings.
Crown Royal Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
@Paulhb,
Part of the reason Kings weren’t better initially under DS was because the Kings had to RECOVER from TM. The team had to learn how to play more agressively and with confidence. TM coached the players like they were robots having no confidence in them but rather his system. Matt Greene is a good example of a player who played much better under DS. Kopi and ultimately DB were much better. Lewis had been benched under TM and would have ended up being run out of town like Moulson, Purcell, and Moller if DS hadn’t come in and given him the confidence to play to his potential.
The Carter trade helped as he is a sniper and removing JJ proved to be a plus but most importantly is was bringing in a coach who is light years better than the overated TM.
TiredOfIt Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
@Crown Royal, Everybody on this blog called for his head. The pressure to fire came ultimately from the fans….no doubt.
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Crown Royal Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 6:21 am
@TiredOfIt,
I absolutely agree that pressure from this blog helped secure the change. Good call!
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Robert R Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 8:00 am
@Crown Royal, Yes, let’s engrave “LA Kings Insiders” on the Cup.
Happy for Lappy
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1) Terry Murray did great things for the Kings. I thank him greatly for helping us become champions. I hope to see him in the NHL some time soon.
2) Lappy is one of the greatest guys to ever play the game. EVER. Good to hear that he’s continuing a hockey career. I wished he could join the Kings in some capacity, but I think I speak for everybody in saying that we wish the best for both Laperriere and Terry Murray.
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To be fair… Murray was with the Flyers before he was with the Kings… so it’s more of a homecoming for him
I’m really glad Lappy’s sticking around though
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Funny how tied together these “sister organizations” are from all the player/coach swapping over the years. Looks like the Kings are the hot, cool fashionable sister and Philly is the fat, ugly, cheesesteak smelling one that eats with her mouth open.
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
@KOHO, maybe it’s a cultural thing?? the eating with the mouth open part! LOL
I laugh because it’s one of my pet-peeves that I’m constantly sending my daughter the evil glare from across the table about! and it ain’t her culture, it’s just her non-etiquette!
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Cricket Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@Stuart, My dad bugged me nonstop since I can remember about eating with my mouth open. I hate it! But it worked eventually. Can’t under estimate the importance of good manners.
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@Cricket, dude, our dad’s should’ve gone bowling together!
KOHO Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@Stuart, She wasn’t born in Philly was she?! lol j/k
My daughter is just over two and I find myself watching her eat making sure she understands what proper etiquette is..but what’s etiqueete when you’re two?! lol
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@KOHO, LOL! Not a Philly girl! My son’s going to be 4 and she wants to know when I’ll get on him about it too! LOL I say he gets a pass until he’s 6.
KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
@KOHO, taching a 2 year old eating etiquette? Good luck with that. LOL
Rich, so in Murray’s situation does the flyers organization take over whatever money we owed to Murray?
He’s getting paid either way, so does he sign ANOTHER contract in addition to what we owe him?
How does the contract work?
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
@Lake Forest, ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT MY QUESTION ABOVE!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
@Lake Forest, I would try but I only have a toothpick….not gonna do much.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
@ILLEGALSTICK33,
Shrunk a bit in 19 years, has it?
Tim James Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
@Lake Forest, I believe it works out however the Kings and Flyers make it work. You can be sure at a minimum Murray will receive what he is owed for the final year of his contract with L.A. The Flyers in all likelihood will pay Murray what an AHL coach gets paid customarily and the Kings will pick up the remainder. In any case Murray will get his money and the opportunity to work with players and maybe work back into an NHL head coaching role. Someone above commented on Murray possibly going to a team like Edmonton. The Kings likely would not have given permission for that discussion. Certainly not to allow Murray to be a head coach in the West. So everyone involved should be satisfied with the outcome.
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Good for TM. I’m happy for him.
@Rich Hammond, I told this story before but what the heck. A Flyer fan, actually a nice guy, on the NJ Transit coming back from Finals game 5, actually said the Kings were the Flyers’ minor league team. I told him it was the other way around. He laughed.
So THANK YOU for saying “Kings East”. The better team is not the affiliate, “right”? “Obviously.”
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@LA_1968,
It is how it Phills!
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Crown Royal Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
@LA_1968,
The Flyers can laugh all they want but despite all the winning seasons over the years they have not won a Stanley Cup since 1975! That’s 37 years.
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LA_1968 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@Crown Royal, So true. And to me, our core, with all the contracts set, feels like we have a great chance to string together more than several great seasons going forward. Thus neutralizing us in relation to the reputations of some of the legacy type teams. Gotta love being a Kings fan… finally.
I got to find the picture of the Hulk Hogan Pens fan at the draft holding up a sign saying “Flyers, It will always be 1974″ with photos of all the ex-Flyers in Kings uniforms. I don’t know if anyone saw that here?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@LA_1968,
1975, I think, as invoked again below.
LOL ~ Nice job!
LA_1968 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@Duncanz, 75 it is! I am gonna find that sign.
LA_1968 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Here is the link:
Thanks to the Kings… Here are the Pens fans, including the Hulk Hogan wacko, making fun of the Flyers at the NHL Draft:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nerrux9yekf5bzs/penguins_fans_at_2012_draft_rubbing_in_face_of_flyers.jpg
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I love Laperriere. I wish he would have been offered a job with the Kings. BTW Rich it was nerve damage in his leg that forced him to retire, not concussions. This is Ian Laperriere, not Adam Deadmarsh or Jason Allison.
Good luck Ian and Terry in your new roles!
GO KINGS!!
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For the record, Patrik Elias will be on NHL Live today, between 2pm and 4pm on NHL Network.
Might be interesting to hear what he says if they bring “it” up!
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rogiesbackup Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
@Scot, I’ll be really surprise if they corner him with that question.
See, they will just let the Kings wilt like a flower not making a big deal about winning the cup after 45 years!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@rogiesbackup, All the more reason to “try it again.” (props: Sutter)
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
@rogiesbackup,
You were wrong about the puck. You will be wrong about them asking him about it. They already said they’ll ask him about it.
Did you apologize to Rich yet?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
@Kingshangman,
Ooh, relentless…
This just a rumor, but my feeling is, it’s true!
Hammond what are your thoughts on JB asking to be traded? Here is the link.
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-on-hockey/19439710/nhl-rumors-kings-backup-goalie-jonathan-bernier-asks-to-be-traded
If not true I’m sure he’s saying the sooner the better to management!!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@Sammuch, It’s not hard to believe, is it? They’re not going to put him out as trade bait, though. Deano already said how he works on these things. Managers talk all the time. One of them comes along and gives him a great offer, he’s going to think about it. Lots of teams need goaltenders. One of them might just send an affordable player or two and some great prospects to get him. That said, he’s not gonna push him out the door for a bag of pucks, which is why it’ll probably happen in February (or whenever), not July.
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, that Sharp for JB is interesting…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
@Stuart, Dream deal … lol, it would cost us a lot more!
Rich Hammond Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
My reaction? Read Lisa, not the other stuff.
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Michael J. Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
@Rich Hammond,
I’ve been saying the same thing for a few days now. I think the Kings should keep Bernier around until the trade deadline.
Should the Kings keep him through the end of next season? Maybe. If he signs an offer sheet and bolts the Kings will likely receive a 2nd round pick (maybe a first and third should he be offered $3,134,089 per year. The Kings could match that offer if they wanted to. Right now, I don’t think that they could get much more than a first, so why not keep him, and plan on signing him to his second contract?
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Sammuch Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@Michael J.,
I agree, my feeling is with Quick signed for 10 years, JB wants out ASAP! Is asking about his future with management, believe me he’s talking I want out!
Not good for a team in the locker room to have someone who’s not happy about his situation!!! One bad apple as the saying goes… I can’t blame for wanting to leave!
Hmmmm, just heard Martin Boudour might being leaving NJ, KING VS DEVILS trade here for JB! Maybe…
HockeyNerd Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
@Sammuch, Slow down there partner. “Not good for a team in the locker room to have somebody who’s unhappy about his situation”.
The only small little problem with that statement is we haven’t heard from Bernier and we don’t know that he’s unhappy about his situation.
HockeyNerd Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
@Rich Hammond, Exactly!!!! Did this “reporter” talk to Bernier himself? NO. Does this reporter even have a source? NO. Everyone around here is claiming to know what’s going on inside Bernier’s head. I say let’s wait to heat from DL and JB.
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
@Sammuch,
jb’s value has skyrocketed….by keeping him another season is not necessarily a bad thing, could diminish his future value if he has another sub-par season as jq’s backup…
he has only been in 41 nhl games and his current value has never been higher…there could be a chance that if he is kept and only gets into a dozen games or so next season, he won’t be worth as much as a tradeable asset…
i do think the kings are in a great position…and i think dl knows what he wants for jb…
remember, tampa bay tried earlier, (the story was leaked on twitter), a few weeks ago and thought that the kings were asking for way too much…that’s why they called nashville and got andres linback – he was supposedly less expensive to obtain…
so if deano doesn’t get what he wants in return – jb is probably gonna stay…
it’s really that simple to me…
but if i were dl and was considering to honor jb’s request, i would take my sweet time in waiting for the most desperate team who misses out after free agency starts on july 1…
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Sammuch Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
@variable,
I agree when you said, I do think the kings are in a great position & if he stays to long could diminish his future value if he has another sub-par season as jq’s backup…
I think sooner then later, if DL waits, I say in trying to get a top 10 choice in this year very talented draft 2013…
A deal will get done before the new- year!
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
@Sammuch, I think Bernier’s top value will be at next season’s trade deadline. We will also have a much better understanding of our own needs. I’m betting that DL is gonna start collecting draft picks.
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Sammuch Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
@KC23,
If they wait that long, they would need to play him more to keep his value, to get that 2013 high top 10 pick! Read my other thoughts also to @variable…
Beside that, isn’t a great summer year! GKG
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
@Sammuch, Depends. He Bernier plays well early, then the opposite would be true.
Sammuch Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am
@Sammuch,
Woke up this morning, another rumor is Toronto is interested in JB, for Burke is getting very frustrated with the Luongo deal, again,it’s just a rumor…
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Real 7 Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@Sammuch, Toronto is known to produce a lot of rumo(u)rs….
they haven’t been very reliable in the past….what has changed?….
no Stanley Cup for 45 years [or whatever] makes them a little jumpy….like a hair-trigger
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Off- topic: Again I missed the CBC coverage of the Game 6 SCF, but when I Tivo it it is NBC version. AAAAHHHH!!!
LOL….announcers just observed if Kovalschmuck is injured why is he playing so much in the series??!!! Good point there.
Obviously an NBC east coast bias excuse.
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@rogiesbackup, I was watching the CBC version the other day (I had only seen the last 10 minutes of the 3rd previously) and man alive what a huge difference in the call. I take back what I’ve said about Doc’s call… way to sensational with all the high-pitch squeaks and squeals! I just watched the 1st period (the PS3 was installing the latest version) and I found myself replaying so many simple plays and marvelling at how well the Kings were playing… I must’ve watched the 1:30 minutes where Kopi was a moose and got the penalty called against Volchenkov… what a play by all involved! Definitely thought I saw plenty of plays that officials could’ve gone against the Kings, but then again, it was playoff hockey and they almost always let them play… sorry to stray, but…yeah!
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toemas_sandstrom Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@rogiesbackup, It’s on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_QBVeaGF84&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
@rogiesbackup, In Doc’s defense the one color guy with him was really the NJ homer that was the most obsurd. The one that stood out for me most was when Carter made a fantastic offensive play (I think we were short handed) and all the color guy said was what a great defensive play Harrold made. It was very very Haywood.
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rogiesbackup Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 1:36 am
@KC23, I actually like Doc doing play by play, but it’s the color commentating that is infurieting.
I remember about 10 years ago, how I can imagine when it was the Kings “turn” to be in the play-off and the kings will actually be in national TV and Doc doing play by play then I know the Kings have become a “mainstream” team in the NHL. I know more fans and players will respect the Kings now.
Bob miller is still better, but doc can scream “he scores” louder, but Miller was a better screamer in in his younger days.
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Did anyone see the banner the “Hulk Hogan Guy” from Pittsburgh was holding up when Kings East GM Paul Holmgren was introduced to announce their 1st Round Pick at the Draft, last Friday?
It had images of Richie, Carts, Gags, Hex & Johnny Stevens surrounding the slogan,
“IT’S ALWAYS 1975 IN PHILLY”
Great riff on the TV show and a classic burn on the hated rivals by “Scott Hartnell’s best friend”!!
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LA_1968 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
@Duncanz, Now that is just plagiarism. I expected more from you after the praise you received for admitting that you were not the inductee of tiddlywinks into the LAKI.
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SLIM Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
@LA_1968,
It was actually Tackle Tiddlywinks…
Which is a sport I invented and played..
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
@SVELTENESS,
I believe the phrase you used was like “full contact tiddlywinks”..
We never played it ourselves, although there was often some mild violence involved at the end of a particularly contentious game.
My career in sports was pretty much all downhill from there …
TM is a great teacher of the game, their prospects will be more than ready for nhl action when the time comes.
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puck73 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
@DEH, I just got off the phone with Ethan Moreau, apparrently he still has his Terry Murray poster up in his garage. I just think it is so neat that players have such adulation for TM.
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
@puck73, did you tell him you still had TM’s signed rookie “prospect” card with the California Golden Seal still in it’s case on your mantle?
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puck73 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
@Stuart, I sold it to Bruce Mcnall. He said it would look good on his shelf right next to the rare Honus Wagner card he owns.
Go Kings Go!
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Thank you to TM for bringing this team back into the playoffs after 8 yrs and developing an awesome defensive mentality. Glad to see you’ll be back behind the bench developing new “Kings East” prospects.. haha.
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Congrats to both men. Excellent choices by the Flyers. 2 class guys that will bring a lot to the organization.
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Can’t thank TM enough for what he did for this franchise during his tenure. I know a lot of you didn’t like him as coach, but without his guidance and ability to teach something so foreign to Kings teams of the past, a true defensive structure, we’re not Stanley Cup Champions (I like saying that
We owe a deep debt of gratitude.
Thanks Murph!
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puck73 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
@nykingfan, Wow, that is so nice. I will make sure that I ‘pass that along’.
Love and Kisses, Colin Fraser. Stanley Cup Champion, Los Angeles Kings Hockey Club.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
@purge73,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PulHuOLcg38
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Real 7 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
@Duncanz, what’s the title of that video…youtube says there’s nothing there…
Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
@Real 7,
Thanks, but help a brudder out & post one that works for me … Ramones – Glad To See You Go!
Real 7 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@Duncanz, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIHuOLcg38
well, you asked for it….
There’s rumors floating around that Bernier might be traded and that other teams might want him. Even though he didn’t play in the playoffs, he was a strong backup for us in the regular season and won us some important games. He doesn’t deserve to be traded, he deserves the money he is getting here, no less. Plus Lombardi has said he wants to keep the team together for another run and that’s what we all want as fans i’m sure, so why would we trade him? Doesn’t make sense to me.
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Who Knows? Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain, Bernier wants to play. Simple as that.
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rick Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain, We just committed to Quick for 10 years. Bernier wants to be a starter, and has every right to feel that way. If he stays, he is not going to be a happy camper. Best for him, and the organization, to let him go and get some real value in return.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@rick, Luongo?
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rick Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
@Duncanz, I could take your response one of several ways. One would be that Bernier, like Luongo, is doomed to second string status and should be freed of that burden. The other could be that signing Quick to a long term deal, like Luongo’s, is a big risk and that we therefore need to keep a highly skilled backup on hand. Perhaps you will be so kind to educate me as to the intended meaning….
Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
@rick, Schneider!
rick Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
@Duncanz Got it. Thanks for the clarification.
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain, It makes sense if he trades for draft picks.
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Bummer,
I was hoping Lappi would come west to work for the Kings in some capacity. Best wishes!!
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NHL.com ran a story listing Penner as one of the PAC free agents…. I hope that’s not the case. I really hope we can get Pancakes to stay….
Anyone any thoughts on that?
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Sammuch Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
@zulov,
I think the Kings offered him 1 year @ 2 million, Penner said later… So did the Kings! I agree with the Kings no more then 2.5 million cap!
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
@Sammuch, if this is the case, then I’m all for it. I felt all along that 2M would be the max he should be offered (I actually was thinking 1.5-1.8 take it or leave it).
oh well.
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fsd1 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@Sammuch, And where did you hear this?
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zulov Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@Sammuch, I’d like to know where you heard this – I hope its not the case. Penner was very valuable to this team in the playoffs. I agree that 4 mill is too much to commit to, but for 1 year, they could try it.
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Kings east.
I like the sound of that.
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Old topic, but Elias is coming up on NHL Network.
I wonder what they could ask him?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
@Kingsfannone,
“How often do you clean out your gear bag, Patrik?”
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
@Toucanz,
“Obviously, I don’t know how the puck got in there. Kinda like how Ryan Clowe felt after touching the puck in play from the bench. I’m shocked the puck was there.”
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Gustavo Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
@Kingsfanone,
“Patrick, why would you tarnish your reputation in such a stinky turdish manner???…What were you thinking???…”
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All the best to these two good hockey men in their new positions…..don’t think it’s too big a stretch to foresee a Kings-Flyers Stanley Cup Final sometime in the future….
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Did you see this?
Another good sport coach…
Rumor is he is going to work for the Yotes…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166591/Hockey-coach-faces-assault-charges-tripping-opposing-player-13-breaking-wrist.html
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
@SVELTEBURY,
They showed that today also on Ch 11.
I’ve been telling people forever what an up-to-date hockey advocating station that is!
Now maybe I’ll get some late-breaking, well deserved credibility around this place!
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Steve W Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
@Duncanz, They showed it last night on KTLA 5
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
@SLIM,
Yeah. He says he “slipped on the ice.”
Right.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
@Kingsfanone,
Derek Morris slipped on the ice in a remarkably similar manner vs Rob Scuderi in Game 2 also.
I felt bad for the chap.
I do not remember him wheeling around and pointing back accusingly at the opponents after said unfortunate ice slip though!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
@Duncanz,
Exactly. That “coach” is a piece of work. Wow!
Kingsfanone Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
@Duncans Yo-Yo,
And you’re throwing props to channel 11 kttv?
Yeah……….nice!
variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@SLIM,
“There had been tension between the Vancouver coach and the 13-year-old throughout the game, according to a spectator parent”
tension between a coach and a 13 year-old…????
oh yeah, this guy tremblay has got his career heading in the right direction – out of hockey all together….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
@variabury,
The kid’s just lucky he didn’t get a shoe in his gob! Obviously a bad seed …
Is that thing inked with Bergevin yet, ‘cos I think I just found a better candidate for that position?!
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
@Duncnaz and weaving,
too bad kruschev is not around any longer…
Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
@regdwightable,
If that wasn’t an underhanded reference to an Elton John song I must be overthinking this thing …
variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
@sungcanz….
i guess it could have been…but yeah…yr probably over thinking the whole thing….
Back in the day I remember Lappy talking to me through a Kings chat, and he was nothing but class. There will only be one 22 in Kings history and it’s not Charlie Huddie. Love you Lappy!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@Eric,
Randy’s “Little Lewie” is the one for me!
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Right now, I am drooling like someone is trying to rip momma’s b%b from my festering, infant mouth!
I wish TM was still here and I just love hearing news about him on this blog.
Thanks @RH.
Keep up that goshdarn compete!
(ps, is there anyone else that just heard that lovely phrase for the very first time today, like me?)
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
@Duncanz,
i got the the same…eh, um…text…
or in this case because of the visual description given, it maybe even classified as a “sext” to some….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
@abashable
I suggest you “purge” it from your phone for the sake of your predisposed wholesomeness, and also before you get investigated by the FBI for storing lewd data in your files!
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
@puncanz…
my wholesomeness is farm fresh/sutter-approved….
as for the friendly buddies of indecency, they might want it for their own collections…:)
Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@Duncanz, let them eat teet!
stay heavy my friend!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@Strict,
Heavy like a mommafeeda’!
(i’ll try an’ keep my gob closed too for ya, pop..)
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fyi…
- cory schnieder agrees to a contract extension – terms undisclosed…
(luongo is as good as gone come the month of july)
- tukka rask and the bruins agree in principle to a one year deal…
(tim thomas, enjoy yr one year off touring all the renaissance faires and medieval times restaurants across this great country of “yrs” – it’s his world…and we’re just visiting)…
- avs re-sign steve downie to a 2-year deal…
- nj re-sign ryan carter, steve bernier, stephen gionta, cam janssn and peter harrold (yaaay, harry) to new deals….
- the wild re-signed kassian to a deal…
there were some other minor deals done by the flames and montreal…but those above or the “major” decisions that were made today thus far……
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
@variable, what do you think about Travis Moen being signed by the Kings if the price is right?
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
@Stuart, nevermind, he was one of the minor deals you mentioned…rats
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
@Stuart,
moen was re-signed by the canadians today to a 4 year deal…so…take him off yr board….
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
@Stuart,
the most interesting deal that i didn’t mention was the flames signing lee stempniak to a 2 year/$5mil deal…
stempniak had 14 goals and 28 points in 61 games….
how is penner gonna get a $3million dollar offer from us…???
he’s not…
one year at $2.5…with an option for a second year at $3mil if pens can find his syrup on the ice next season…
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Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
@variable, I’d bet Penns agent keeps whispering in his ear about how 2 SC are worth something on the open market.
I said it earlier, I would go 2M absolute MAX! I think he should be grateful to play for 1.5 – 1.8 for one year and another chance to win and prove he’s out of his “funk”… can NHL contracts have a club option? I’d put the second year in there for MAYBE 2.5 with the option being the club’s.
Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Sorry @v
Penns = Stempniak x 25 ….
… course, we’re talking “upside” here, right?
variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
@the minister of duncanzc….
they both have comparable career stats…stempy is 29, too, like pens….
so even though pens might give up a tad more upside, he has to be measured by what the going rate is for players that are similar in terms of career production, age and the market…
Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
@viscountable,
The way you put it, anything @Stuartside of that deal would be a bonus, for LAK, not DP.
Amazingly similar careers in ways those two, eh?
CB14 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
@variable, What about Marty Brodeur hiring an agent because he might leave the Devils? That would be pretty shocking to me if it does in fact happen.
Regarding Penner, I’m not against giving him more than what he’s worth just as long as it’s only for 1 year. I think we all can agree that he doesn’t deserve more than 2.5 million, mabye 3 tops. My reasoning is because if DL wants DP back, in that case we can assume he doesn’t want to go after anyone else who would make more money like Parise, it doesn’t hurt us one bit to overpay Penner for 1 year. Our cap situation next year is great, so having an insurance player in case Gagne decides to retire, or gets injured again, would be nice to have. Also, any free agent who DL would like better than Penner is going to command a long term deal with likely an inflated salary cap number. IMO it’s much better to have an inflated cap number for 1 year in Penner, than an inflated cap number for 2 or 3 years.
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
@CB14,
it’s gonna be a tough call…
i’ll probably re=post this later on another thread…
but….
it all depends now on how interested la is in parise…but more importantly, how interested is parise is in la….?
i know he spends his summers out here…but he and his wife just bought a house in minny…and since the red wings have more room to overpay for him, if parise wants to be a red wing, he’ll be a red wing….ironically the exact same situation his current team is in…
once parise’s destination is understood, then you can consider penner and all other options….
doesn’t this remind you to a much smaller extent a kovy/frolov scenario….?
penner could be the victim of turning down other teams offers to remain a king…but he might have to wait until dl us convinced that he won’t get zach….
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Hearing P Elias try to explain himself on national TV reminds me of listening to my kids when they were teen agers and tried to pull a fast one on me. What a TURD!!
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At least UNICEF got a nice donation.
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Patty E. sounding pretty ernest on NHL Live right now.
I am getting a lump in my throat.
Cost the Kings a $5,000 donation to a UNICEF charity, he says.
So what I need to know is … does that number go against our salary cap ‘cos there’s a breakfast bearing left wing I know that is starting to get a little nervous!
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
@sympatheticanz….
well…$5,000 buys you a lot ‘o’ pancake batter and aunt jemima syrup – even for a guy like penner…
i guess everyone’s happy….
especially the kids in need….:)
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@vethankuable,
Czech’s in the mail !
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ok…
elias on next on nhl live….
get ready to hear a much scripted, much rehearsed, team approved response…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
@viable,
Not so … much scripted, much rehearsed, Kings approved blogger!
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@Duncanz,
i’d say he handled it well….i’m glad this is ov-a….(!)
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
@ovariable,
it’s O-VA!
Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
@Munchcanz, well, it ain’t OV-I
Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
@Sturat,
Nothing. I just wanted to reciprocate like that.
[winks eastcoastedly]
Congratulations to Lappy and Murray of them. I wish them both the best of luck!!!
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i’m sorry…i know in his prime jeremy roenick was a great player…but i still can’t forgive him for taking a full season as a king to find a skate that fitted his “odd” feet….
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Jack Aubrey Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
@variable, That’s fair. I always liked JR, but especially so when he went toe-to-toe (and vehemently!) with Mike (LeDouche) Milbury over the Brown hit on Roszival (Phoenix game 5). Didn’t JR get a hatty in his first game as a King or something? And then disappear for the rest of the season?
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variable Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
@Jack Aubrey,
he scored two back-to-back goals and everyone started to think we we’re gonna be a force to reckon with….but it didn’t go that way, did it…?….nope….
i agree with you, jr was a fantastic hockey player who didn’t age or mature well into being a depth player rather than “the man”…i think his ego got in the way of his post-prime career and that he couldn’t accept his declining skills….
nonetheless, he did some fabulous things on the ice and was considered a leader in the nhl/usa hockey on and off the ice…
he’s well on his way in developing his broadcasting career….at first, he was a trainwreck…but, to give him credit, he’s grown as a talking head – a full-time job he carried as a player)…in many ways, i think that because he was so outspoken on the ice as a player, networks naturally thought he would make the smooth transition…
he’s getting better, but he’s just quite not there yet..and the network brass is committed to him, so he will have some more time to work the kinks out….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
@vinoable,
He always seems more glib when he looks like he’s had a sip or two before going on!
… & i kid not decidedly, iykwim ……
Sign Pens to a 2.5 to 3 mil deal. Proceed to tell the rest of the NHL to bring it.
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TiredOfIt Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
@Pili, Ditto…+1000
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Speaking of wonderful ex servants in the Kings’ court, spare a thought for Jack God Forsaken Johnson, up there in veritable cornfieldland.
Aaron Portzline, the @RH of OH, tells NHLN basically, when Nash departs the Jackets don’t know where their next goal is coming from and could be looking “like an AHL side” by the time the 2012/13 season comes round.
Well, no worries about getting the “green light” over there at least, I guess!
Do they even have traffic lights in Columbus, Ohio??
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Pili Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
@Duncanz, Horrible ones that turn red just as you’re approaching them. Reported from the middle of the bible belt. Please help me.
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LittleRhody Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
@Duncanz,
Since you brought up JJ, here is a story that I’ve wanted to share for a while. It speaks to his character as a person.
He was/is one of my ex-wifes favorite players and she had a infant-sized jersey that she wanted to have him sign. Through a short chain of people, she knew someone who worked with his little brother who was playing hockey here in SoCal. However, he was traded before that could get worked out.
She went on his website and emailed him explaing the situation. He replied saying, “Send it to my paernts and they will make sure I get it and I’ll sign it and ship it back”. He provided their address and shortly the jersey was sent.
A few weeks ago, it returned. Signed as requested. In addition, there was an adult sized Kings T-shirt signed and personalized to my ex-wife, along with 3 of his hockey cards, including his rookie card, all autographed as well and a nice personal note.
Say what you want about his on-ice performance, and I don’t disagree about any of that, but it shows what a nice guy he is and what nice guys Hockey players are in general.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Beautiful story, @LittleRhody!
When I’m not kidding around, I hope my genuine appreciation for JJ shows through.
I really hope he does become as fine a hockey player as he is a citizen, but he’s set that bar pretty high, as your wife has found out to her pleasure!
Speaking of losing a link in a short chain of people, I’m told you were in Caseys for SCF Game 4. Was that right?
If so, we lacked an introduction so I hope to meet you next season at some event.
I always enjoy talking East Coast hockey.
Which side of the Mrs Zip is CLB, OH, on again, by the way??
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LittleRhody Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@Duncanz,
Yes sir, I was there, standing against the short wall with my brother-in-law and his wife. I am also sorry we did not get a chance to meet.
Hopefully, that will be corrected soon.
Stay funny, my friend.
TiredOfIt Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
@Duncanz, I have a Size 52 jersey of JMFJ hanging in my closet right now, which speaks for the respect I have for him. It was my opinion that he was the best defenseman we had at one point. I wish him well always. Great story from Little
Kingsfanone Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
@LittleRhody,
Nice story, buddy! Better cuz its true and its you! Also reinforces who Jack is, doesn’t it!!
Great to read this!
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Anyone at Sports Chalet? How long is the line?
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CB14 Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
@HockeyNerd, It’s to the limit.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
@CB14, I was slow on that one, took me a few minutes to get it given their advertising.
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Sebastian Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@HockeyNerd, Its pretty packed. We got here at 330. There are 280 prople ahead of us and a hell of a lot more behind us. We figure 350 to 450 people will get in. If youre not here i would not bother.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
@Sebastian, My guess is the cup is still there and they are moving fans as fast as they can. 7:40 pm
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In a correction to an earlier story …
I have been contacted by the legal dept at CBJ who tell me that the quote Mr Portzline gave was, “like an expansion side”, not “an AHL side”.
Apologies are due to Mr Portzline and the entire Jackets organization for dragging its name thru’ the muck like that, and it is a relief to know the club will have a genuine NHL lineup (not an AHL one) after all!
Go CBMFJ & no.7 Go!!!!!!!
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Bernier’s market value is sky high. He hasn’t given up a goal since about March. How many goalies can say that?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
@JackKentCooke,
Who’s the NJD backup again, Chris Terreri?
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JackKentCooke Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@Duncanz,
Believe he is the team goaltending coach.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
@JackKentCooke,
Ha ha, yes and Jacques Caron is a Special Consultant – the Bernie Nicholls clause.
Johan Hedburg went 17-7-2 this season so I bet he’s brimming at the possibility Marty won’t be able to come to an agreement with the club.
For sure, at the very least, he gives The Devils a smidgeon of leverage should Lou deign to exercise it!
anyone else been having trouble trying to load the Kings website lately?
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so speaking of coaching, has Bernie Nicholls been officially appointed Kompon’s replacement or are we going to find someone else? Brother reunion maybe?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
@DEH,
Rather have the father/son (Nolan) connection.
Anyone telling me there’s a chance?
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DEH Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
@Duncanz, who knows? Could be interesting.
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TiredOfIt Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
@Duncanz, Negative Grasshopper, Pumphernickle will soon be sketching 5on3 X’s and O’s on the hand-held white board.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
@TiredOfIt,
If this would be so then why the delay?
Unless it was to show respect to JK.
Would this be necessary, tho’?
@Rich, I read that no one is talking about the discussions that the NHL & NHLPA had today. Is there any news about how far apart the sides might be?
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
@luc20rules,
NHL Network reported on the meeting. Just preliminary get together. More meetings are scheduled, it went pretty well today.
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Looks like Westy is shipping out:
https://twitter.com/KWesty19
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
@toemas_sandstrom,
That’d be sad.
I’ve got a real soft spot for this fellow.
Great attitude.
Super with the fans.
Back to the Cowher compound in Raleigh, NC?
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Harry Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
@toemas_sandstrom,
Westy is signed through 2014. Maybe he is going on VAC
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toemas_sandstrom Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
@Harry, You’re right. He updated his tweet:
“@KWesty19: @KWesty19: Seven bags, two dogs, and a wife…back to the East *for the Summer… #missyouLA #thanksforeverything #(tear)”
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Best of luck to both. Lappy was an exciting player to watch and ALWAYS took one for the team…Congrats Lappy
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Curt Fraser is listed among the 100 toughest guys in NHL history….1978-83 he played for VAN
and was captain also…
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1212030-the-100-toughest-players-in-nhl-history/page/19
I wonder if Colin is related….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 29th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
@Real 7,
I’m going to guess no, since the orig CF was born in Cincinnati, OH.
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Real 7 Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 7:08 am
@DuncanzGonged!, “Fraser [Curt] was born in Cincinnati, Ohio where his dad played some minor pro hockey. As a baby the family relocated to Winnipeg and when Curt was 9 they moved to Vancouver.”
still looking for solid ground, as this one’s ‘still up-in-the-air’
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Duncanz Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 11:31 am
@unReal 24,
Here’s the proof.
Had there been a relationship, we would have read about it in these great annals by now.
There. Irrefutable!
Real 7 Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
@Dunky, you’re probably irrefutably irrefutable….maybe
Hire TM!!!!!!! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 30th, 2012 at 9:55 am
@DesertKing, now that TM has a job in the Philly system LA no longer has to pay his salary, right? win-win.
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