[UPDATED] The Kings have confirmed that they have reached agreement with two centers on contract extensions. Jarret Stoll has agreed to a three-year contract worth an average of $3.25 million per season, while Colin Fraser has agreed to a two-year contract worth $825,000 per season. Stoll’s previous cap hit was $3.6 million while Fraser’s cap hit was $825,000. Both players were due to become unrestricted free agents on July 1.
Stoll, who turns 30 on Sunday, mostly served as the Kings’ third-line center this season and totaled six goals and 15 assists in 78 games. Fraser, 27, joined the Kings last summer in a trade with Edmonton. After he recovered from a broken foot, Fraser totaled two goals and six assists in 67 regular-season games as a fourth-line center.
The two signings mean that Dustin Penner is the only remaining pending unrestricted free agent who played a significant number of games for the Kings this season (Scott Parse is also due to be an unrestricted free agent). The Kings have some interest in bringing back Penner but have not committed to the idea yet.
interesting to see what happens w/ penner now.
seems like a lot to me.. but being strong up the middle is key i spose.
great for stoll great for the oragnization..
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
@losingsand, NICE! welcome back Stoll! good for him and good for the team. I’m glad to see DL make good on his commitment to a team guy.
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paige Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@Shuchuk, + 1
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TJM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@losingsand, Dude’s found his niche in a BIG way for the team. Also, it’s $0.5 mil less than last year, so we’re freeing up space. I love it, and thing we’d be in bad shape without him.
I will NEVER forget the 5 on 3 against New Jersey with him, Willie and Greene. That’s is one of three moments during the finals that define it for me (the others being Kopitar’s game-winner and of course the three-goal PP in game 6).
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LB Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@losingsand,
It’s the Right move and good for him. BUT – what happens to Lokti? Clearly they don’t see him as a winger.
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PRMan Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@LB, Tradebait…
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@losingsand, I would like to see Fraser signed first. Penner would be nice to have back, but we already have Gagne. Which means we trade one away or have one play in the 3rd line role. That really doesn’t match eithers game to be on the 3rd line. I suppose we could do that like last year and its good to have that extra guy as depth, but we already have depth in Richardson & King showed he could fill the 2nd line role in a pinch as well.
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kb Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 2:20 am
@luc20rules, If we can sign penner at under 3 i’m for it. he has chemistry with the team, he wont suck as much next year, and he’s prob worth every penny.
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Jk Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 7:25 am
@losingsand,
Let Penner go and pick up another youngster… Penner has only shown up the playoffs other than that he’s an anchor on the team.
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Great move by DL. Wonder if the timing of the Kompon thing has anything to do with it???
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As Marv Albert would say….YESSSSSS, AND IT COUNTS!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
@puck73,
We were just talking about this. I bet Gagne retires and that covers Stoll’s salary.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:37 pm
@DesertKing, I think that might be the outcome…
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Stuart Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
@DesertKing, I hope he would. As much as he can contribute, his health is a timebomb out there.
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FroFan Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@DesertKing, Gagne doesn’t need to retire to cover Stoll’s salary, he took less than he was making previously.
Love that DL is keeping the band together!!!
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Stuart Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@FroFan, only 1.5M less then before over the course of the contract. Doesn’t seem like a very big cut. But maybe he was offered something lower and then responded with that, or some sort of negotiations…
Kopi Bryant Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
@puck73, As Ralph Lawler would say… OH ME OH MY!
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@Kopi Bryant, as “Macho Man” Randy Savage used to say… OOOHHHH YEEAAHH!!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@purge73,
Glad to see you’ve still got his … back!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@puck73,
“STOll…FOR THREE…YESSSSS!”
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mash-ola Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@puck73, +1!!!!!!!
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Atta boy Strollsy!
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mash-ola Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@Kopi Bryant, Home team discount… I like it!
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@mash-ola, funny what WINNING does to a team, huh?
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TOOOOO MUCH! How are we going to pay Quickie?
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
@Scott, boatloads.
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Harry Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@Scott,
we will bring the Ching Ching for Sir Quickalot….
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Scott Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@Scott, Stoll at his age is worth 2mil, 2.5mil at MOST. 3.1mil is WAAAAAAY too much.
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@Scott, Agreed, and 3 years is too long. With that being said, we should have plenty of space for Quick just as long as we don’t go after Parise, which is unlikely.
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BringbackButchGoring Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
@Scott, The guy is 29. Are you kidding? Stoll is a steal at 3 million a year
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
@BringbackButchGoring, 3.25
enmac Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@Scott, capgeek said kings had 16 mill of cap space a week ago. Don’t see an issue
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tsanuri Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
@Scott,
We have one more year until a new contract for Quick would hit the books.
We have plenty of space for this contract and giving the 4-5mil a year more to Quick.
Gagne has one more year and that will free up 3.5mil of that needed for Quick.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@tsanuri, Quick will get around 6 a year
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tsanuri Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
@KingsFanInPortland,
Think you might have missed the MORE that is there.
6 mil would be 4.2 more and I actually think we are looking closer to 5.2 more since that is what Rinne got at 7.
Sandy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@Scott, By getting rid of Penner
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Stoll is building a new house at the beach, has suspect hips, likes to date supermodels, feels very safe with the parkiing security at Staples and wants to stay in LA. He wasn’t going anywhere.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@DesertKing,
Also Matt Greener will sit in the back seat and continue to buy for him at Starbucks!
What more could you want in life?
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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I believe this is confirmed so we can move Loki in the draft. We have lots centers if there an injury too. kopi, Richards, Carter, Stoll.
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Kings11 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:36 pm
@Downys89,
Curse you and your talk of injuries! Although Stoll earned this contract with his hustle on the PK during our Championship run. I think it is a solid deal.
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Osaka Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@Downys89, I don’t see a future for Lokti with the Kings. I didn’t before. There is no way he can play a Stoll type game.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@Osaka, Lokti is in “Oscar Moller Land”, his skill level is not high enough to make up for his lack of stature.
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Zeley Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
@Shuchuk, I agree
enmac Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
@Downys89, Lewis is also a natural center
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Stoll is good when he goes all out as in the playoffs, but can he do it for another 246 games? Sucks to be Lokti..
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He wasn’t going anywhere…
He loves his team and his lifestyle here…
Not surprised in the least..
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Osaka Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@SLIM, I agree, I don’t know if there is another King who love the city and lifestyle as much as Stoll.
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@Osaka, Doughty…..what too soon?
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Stuart Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@Lake Forest, that’s not love… LOL
Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@0 sake,
DiD somebody forget what’s-his-name?
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Osaka Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@Duncanz, I think he might hate that cursed city a little bit now.
variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@SLIM,
+5….
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Nice work DL, doesn’t sound home town enough, but in DL I trust.
Odd that CF is mentioned, but not DP… he would need to play at 1mil for one year… probably cant accept that, and that’s ok.
OT glad to see Ribiero out of the west.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@Stuart,
i hate that guy…i was glad to see that arrogant sob leave the west, too…
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Not a big fan myself. Too long of a deal for a guy who underperformed badly last year, and one who doesn’t have very much upside. At least if they had given this deal to Penner you could say you expect him to revert back to his previous 25 goal self.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@CB14, you do realize his minutes were cut down considerably, right? his goal against vancouver in OT was worth that money
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@Shuchuk, No I don’t, because they weren’t.
2010-2011 17:09 minutes per game, 2:31 Power Play minutes per game.
2011-1012 16:40 minutes per game, 2:03 Power Play minutes per game.
2010-2011 82 games, 20 goals, 23 assists, 43 points
2011-2012 78 games, 6 goals, 15 assist, 21 points
Are you really trying to tell me a loss of 29 seconds in playing time is the reason why his point total was cut in half? Please try again.
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Goodspeedlem Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@CB14, Wasn’t scoring low in the NHL this year anyways?
CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@Goodspeedlem, Yes. However, unlike Stoll’s production, scoring in the NHL wasn’t cut in half.
RoyalPain Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
@CB14,
Different role.
enmac Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@CB14, considering the number of kings who underperformed this year, I don’t know if you cam gauge his worth on that
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@CB14,
it’s an easy contract to move if it doesn’t work out or a prospect emerges and outplays him…
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@variable, Not if he repeats his performance from last year.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@CB14, I love how LA wins the cup and ONE WEEK LATER some fans are questioning DL’s signing. freaking hilarious. shoot, let’s run Sutter out of town because he is a pathetic 1-3 in game 4 situations, clearly he’ll never cut it in LA.
variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@CB14,
true…
but i think he will be much more productive and confident about his role with the team….
Hackwoods Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@CB14, Concur 100%. I love Stoll for what he brings to the Kings in his role as a face off guy and PKer, and he did well in the playoffs too, but his production is slipping. To give him a 3 year deal at $3.1M per is crazy, and if he does not improve his offensive production soon, he will not be easily traded for any value whatsoever. A 2 year deal at $5M at the most, but that would be pushing it very much, IMO.
The new CBA is going to wrangle in the CAP some, and this contract is not going to do us much good at all in the near future. It will hamstring us big time. I do not agree with this.
I do agree with the Fraser 2 year at $.825M per. That is a good and fair deal and not too long for a late 20′s something.
If Penner is resigned at anything more than 1 year at $2M, then DL is still hung over from the CUP celebration. I cannot see Penner re-signed no matter what, especially after what we gave Stoll.
Now someone mentioned that Gagne might retire, then the Stoll signing has some validity and less of a hinderance to us this season, but still too long and too high of a price for a 3rd line center that does not produce much.
CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
@Shuchuk, To be fair, it’s ONE WEEK and 4 DAYS.
@Hackwoods, I agree with your assesment on Stoll and Fraser completely. I could see Penner being brought back at 2.5 for one year only because he has a history of being a 25 goal scorer, and also has a legitimate reason for his lackluster play last season, his ex-wife.
Osaka Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@CB14, I can see your point if you think he is getting too much money or the contract is too long, but where does this production questioning come from? He wasn’t playing second line minuets last season. His role on the team changed. Craig MacTavish played 3rd line for the oilers in the 80′s and the most goals he ever scored in a season was 21. Look at Mike Peca’s career numbers, a mirror of Stoll’s just about. If you want to compare players production or expectations you have to be comparing the same thing. He is a shutdown guy, not a goal scorer.
Now, is he paid too much for a shutdown 3rd line center? That is debatable, but his lack of offensive production is a red herring since that isn’t his role.
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
@Osaka, He is a third line center, but he’s not used as a shutdown center. Richards is. Thus you can’t compare him to guys like Peca and MacTavish.
I can question his production since his minutes have dopped a whopping 29 seconds per game. He still gets good PP time too. Like I said to you lower on this page, I expected a drop, but not career worst numbers.
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Kings x Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@CB14, stoll does alot more than score goals. Face offs and PK is huge
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
@Kings x, Yes, but faceoff and PK specialists aren’t worth 3.25 per year.
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Lvhatrick Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
Stoll’s face off abilities are worth the $3 million alone.
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He would probably get close to 4mil on the open market so this is a good deal for a good role player.
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Hackwoods Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@LuckyNumber20, Not a chance in you know what. No way. Look at his numbers. Look at other 3rd line defensive minded good face-off centers around the league. Not even the Rangers or Toronto (the overpayers of the NHL) throw around that kind of money to players like Stoll. Don’t get me wrong, I like Stoll a lot, but 2 years at $5M is the most he is worth.
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Seems a bit high. I would have done two years tops.
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Great signing at a good price. His 3.6 4 years ago was too high but his 3.1 is right on target.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@Osaka,
i agree….
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The Face Off Wizard stays!
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
@KingSurfer, hopefully he can groom one of the younger guys or show Kopi a few tricks on the draw…
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yeaahhhh Welcome back Faceoff Master.,…… and Penalty Kill Beast….
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that’s a great deal all-around….
perfect for both the organization and for stoll….
wowowo….
i’m surprised it happened so fast….
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
@variable,
I agree
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Very good news!
GO KINGS GO!
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Smart!!!
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If this is true, its great news. It just confirms what I have thought of Stoll all along solid team guy. Took a bit of a haircut to resign with the Kings and is willing to be in the D-Role for the good of the team as the 3rd line Center. You definately need Stoll like guys to win the Cup. Its time to anchor all the way down the middle and sign Fraser.
Go Kings Go!
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I am very happy with this signing…it gives the Kings the solid 1, 2, & 3 centers it used down the middle to win the Stanley Cup. Now if they can lock up Fraser and Penner I will really like our chances of repeating as Stanley Cup Champions.
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Harry Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@Hockey “G”,
Locked up Colin for 2 years….
: )
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Well alright DL I am so happy now, whew words cannot express how glad I am that one of the Kings hardest working players will be staying here!
Thanks DL and Kings!
A very happy now season tik holder!
Go Kings Go!
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He better learn a new face-off tactic….
Since he can’t hand pass the puck anymore..
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
@SVELTEY,
Can you still charge the puck into the boards at the red line?
If so, we’re still ok!
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Is anyone else annoyed that teams aren’t congratulating us, or am I just being bitter? lol
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vinny Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@FiG17, i am too lol
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@FiG17,
Screw them, they are in denial and several teams are starting to panic. They can see what is happening in LA, they have already seen it succeed, they can see it is staying together, and they are scared. WE GOT THE CUP!! WE GOT THE CUP!!
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FiG17 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
@DesertKing,
I guess that makes sense. Still, though. I want everything that comes with the Cup and watching 29 gm’s begrudgingly telling us how awesome we are is supposed to be part of that. haha
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Harry Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@FiG17,
Pittsburgh did…..
that’s it… I am a Huge Kings fan and will say that the Pens are a class organization….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
@Harry,
Just don’t ask Philly … or the Islanders!
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bmova Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@FiG17, Toronto and Montreal both did, and so did Pitt.
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FiG17 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@bmova,
Yeah, but traditionally, EVERY team does it… that and thanking the host city, which gm’s are also forgetting to do. The first time we’re ever that team, and so many teams aren’t doing it! It’s just lame. lol
At least we got to watch Bob Murray do it, though. That was fun.
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Gustavo Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@FiG17,
It’s annoying, but it speaks of their lack of class, not our quality as Champions.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@FiG17,
it’s not mandatory that they do…but it’s a classy thing to do…
i just can’t believe that anaheim was the first ones to do so…(!)
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Hollywood is back…hell yeah
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Sweet. I was hoping this would happen soon. Can’t wait for next season. Anyone else tired of this feeling yet? Still can’t believe it’s real …
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Great deal. I think part of the value we’re not talking about is the potential for shoot out points from him. He slid a bit last year, but his overtime goal against Vancouver showed that he can still get it done with that shot. I think the money might be a tad high, but he would have gotten more elsewhere. Very happy to have Stoll back.
Now for Fraser and Penner. I would like to see Penner back, personally, if he’s willing to take a bit less ($2.5-3M) so that there’s plenty of room to get Quick’s deal done. I think with today’s trade of Jordan Staal, Pittsburgh just put themselves in the driver’s seat for Parise, and he was probably a long shot anyway. In my opinion, if the Kings retain all the guys from this year, and get Quick a new deal, it’s a successful off-season.
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I didn’t think DL would go anywhere near $3.0 mill per year on Stoll. But I’m happy he did and even happier Stoll did not want to test the FA waters.
So we can pretty much chalk up JS bad regular season to TM’s bad system, uh?
Happy days in the Kingdom…REPEAT BOYS, REPEAT!!!
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how much you wanna bet that dl knew ahead of time of the staal to carolina deal…???
i bet that’s one of the reasons this got done today…
savvy move by dl, knowing how much stoll loves playing here…
and if it doesn’t work out, his contract will be a cinch to move….
win-win all-around…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@variable,
If he had his ear to the ground he would have calculated this outcome.
Even Juraj Mikus can’t help making DL look savvy!!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@Duncanz,
hehe….
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I’m really glad Colin Fraser will stay in Los Angeles!
I’ll bet there would have been plenty of interest in him should he have become available.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
@Duncanz,
Agree
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Lets see:
1. Kings win the Cup
2. Kompon gone
3. Stoll signs new deal
4. DL doesn’t have to pay out any significant dollars to any high draft picks
5. Quick cleans out his LA home
I don’t know about you guys, but I think DL already knows what Quick’s price tag is going to be. Quick knows that he is going to be re-signed and will be able to get a bigger house in LA. Yep, its all coming together for another run. GKG-AGAIN!!
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The Puck Stops Here Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@DesertKing, It’s going to probably be in the $7M range for Quick, based on Rinne’s contract. I hope the Kings have the cap space to make it happen!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@DessertKing,
… or Lubo is suddenly going to get a second-to-none clean-up guy to cover for his mistakes!
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Sted they’re both back. I kind of think Stoll is getting too much money for a 3rd line center, but at least he took a bit of a cut. Fraser has amazing heart, and I’m so glad he’s back!
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@The Puck Stops Here, this is like the Scuderi signing. yes, DL may have overpaid, but even if that is the case it is the right kind of guy to overpay. DL/Kings organization is saying “we value committed role players and will take care of those that are on board with the direction the team is going in”. this is a good precedent, and it speaks volumes about the Kings organization and their commitment to winning long term.
I do wonder if Fraser would have taken less than $1 million if he knew about Stoll’s signing, I guess he doesn’t have twitter access on his car ride to Alberta
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Jim S. Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
@Shuchuk,
I agree with you 100% Perhaps a slight overpayment but he still took a pay cut. What more could you want?
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And here come the nay sayers
To think that our team is going to be pretty much intact after winning the cup is unheard of in this cap era. Great job DL , our chances of repeating are still pretty good
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@Gmo,
It’s all over, bar the coaching!
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pierre lebrun says 3.25 per
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I don’t know if some realize how physical Stoll plays, in the playoffs only Greene and Brown had more hits for the Kings. In the regular season he was 4th on the team behind Brown, Greene, and Clifford.
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@Osaka, Oh i’m quite aware of how physical he is. His boarding penalties have become a nightly guarantee.
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bmova Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@CB14, LOL!!!
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Osaka Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@CB14, He can play on the edge, I think that is the idea.
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Belexes Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@Osaka,
His physical presence is greatly appreciated, same with Fraser. His tendency to sometimes go “borderline” on those hits tends to piss off the other team as well (which is good imo)
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Osaka Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@Belexes, Exactly, he is a shutdown guy, he is suppose to play that game.
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Good move. He’s very underrated player.
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Wow, this is the greatest day for the Kings:
1. ever
2. in the past 20 years
3. in the past 10 days
4. All days are good right now for the Kings.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
@Belexes,
4
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Just heard on twitter that Colin Fraser has signed a 2 year extension with the Kings!
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@puck73, Now that I am happy to see. Hopefully no more than 1.5 per year.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@puck73, This is reporting the same. I hope its true.
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20920516/la-kings-re-sign-jarret-stoll-colin-fraser
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@puck73,
On the one hand, it’s a pity CF couldn’t be given a raise for his efforts.
OTOH, you could say that about almost every single player … and coach …
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@Duncanz, Do you know the terms of the Fraser deal. Please share.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@luc20rules, Nevermind should have known Rich had the info.
Colin Fraser has agreed to a two-year contract worth $825,000 per season.
SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
@puck73,
Look up top..Rich repost..
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Jumblehead Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@puck73, Same cap hit too $800k and change.Nice job DL Nice job.
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DL locking up these 2 guys this fast and getting rid of Kompon has got to be scaring everyone else. Go DL go!
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3.1 for a 3rd line center? Stoll is a top of the line 3rd liner, but I still think 2.8 would have been a better price based on Jarret’s regular season.
That being said, he still agreed to a hometown discount and he’s a helluva 3rd line center for sure! I’m a little surprised but he was nails in the playoffs when it counted. As long as we get to the playoffs, it’s worth paying for.
REALLY happy to see Fraser with a new deal! Character guy and a solid 4th line center.
We have a LOT of trade bait up the middle now…
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@Cynic, 2 years of finals experience and a 2nd Line center for alot of teams in the NHL. That is what you are trying to sign. Stoll took a hometown discount on this contract. If he went to a team that he would be a 2nd line center just coming of a Stanley Cup Winning Team 4mil/yr is not that unrealistic. Another thing to look at is he is willing to be a 3rd line center some guys the ego wouldn’t allow them to accept that role. Do you think Kovi would at a stage of his career where that was right? Stoll is a team guy, took a hometown discount, and will give his all every shift, I have no problem with this signing. Also .3mil/yr is half an entry level player from the 4th round these days.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@Cynic,
True.
But you don’t want to insult Jarret Stoll at the same time!
He’s an accomplished member of the lineup, with a lot of good hockey left in him yet!
1/2 a Mil off, might yet prove to be a bargain and a fair outcome to all concerned.
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Some people crack me up with the “it’s too much money,” “it’s too long of a contract,” etc. HOw would any of us know? None of us are GMs…You can like or not like it but to me Dean Lombardi built the FIRST Stanley Cup Championship Team that LA has ever seen. So I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he knows what he is doing, compared to people on a message board.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@eskymi, YUP.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
@eskymi,
So since I agree with you on this, are we assuredly correct to feel this way? … Even tho’ we’re only comparable people on a message board?
Or are we?!
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eskymi Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@Duncanz, You just blew my mind!!!!!!!!!!
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Gustavo Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@eskymi,
Das right!!
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Gmo Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@eskymi,
Bingo !!
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Cynic Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
@eskymi, I’m glad we make you laugh, but generally, being a GM is a lot like being a business owner. Balancing a budget with a cap, reviewing your assets for maximum return and making changes where appropriate. These are things a lot of us do every day, it’s just more fun to pretend we’re the GM’s of our favorite hockey club while doing them.
They’re only opinions man. I enjoy overthinking all of it. Some of the greatest people I’ve met on this board had conversations start over stuff like ‘He’s getting too much’, etc, etc. Don’t discount it.
I do agree though, ‘In Deano We Trust’
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Wow. What fantastic news! I knew Stoll would be a priority but I didn’t think Fraser would be signed so soon, if at all. What a day.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), fraser for under $1? not bad for a guy with some grit and TWO rings
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eskymi Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
@Shuchuk, I realize it’s a typo, but too bad it wasn’t under $1….90 cents for Fraser would been a steal…
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
dl is hitting a few dingers out of the ballpark today…
derek jeter would be very happy…:)
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@variable,
Moreso Albert Pujols!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@Duncanz,
dl always brings up jeter as his prime example of a consummate teammate and human being…
i’ve haven’t heard a word about him giving props to ap….
Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
@variable
Yes, but AP would be even happier with the hits out of the park than Jeter …
He needs ‘em more!
5points Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Agreed. I would have guessed somewhere around 1.3-1.5 for Fraser. Seems like these boys want to do it again!
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fraser’s deal is also perfect…
dl is having a great day today…:)
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@variable, If he signs Penner and King, WOW!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
@puck73,
like i said above, he’s hit a few homers already today….
and his current athletic idol, derek jeter, would be very proud of him today…:)
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if penner gets resigned….i would prefer a one year, $2 to $2.5 million….
and i would also be happy if he decides to go elsewhere….
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Lokti and hickey for a 2nd and 4th seems fair
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3.25 mil is too much. He’s physical yes but takes lots of penalties, too. Only worth 2.5 mil to me.
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5points Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
@goldielocks, I think what he may have overpaid on stoll, he got back on Fraser
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@goldielocks,
You can’t trade for (or draft) the chemistry combined with Stolly’s experience.
We may well come to really appreciate this deal as next season plays out – if it plays out (regards to Dr Doom AKA @variable).
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Wow, Fraser’s deal is a steal.
Sarcasm alert: Any time you can lock up a 29 year old Center coming off his worst NHL season to a 3 year deal, you just have to do it.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@CB14, +1, he really gave the hometown discount for only being here 1 year. That champaine must of been really delicious out of the big silver cup.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@CB14, $3.25 million is worth it for a good character guy who is a respected team first guy and is going to be your #1 faceoff guy, #1 most reliable shootout specialist (LA has been in a bunch of OT games the past 2 seasons, and I’d bet that trend carries into next year)
if you’re that upset about Stoll’s signing I guess you can pray for a 3 year long lockout :/
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@Shuchuk, I’ll be doing that tonight. Thanks for the advice.
BTW, Stoll was money in the shootout 2 years ago. Last year, not so much. He was only 2 for 8, and neither of those were game deciding goals.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@CB14,
“Worst season” is a debatable term.
I never judged CF on his G/A numbers and am therefore really happy he stays to fight another season with the LA Kings!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
@CB14,
i think he will bounce back and be motivated…
he’ll have confidence again knowing he’s staying and he definitely knows he under-produced on offense this year…
but then again, so did everyone else…
until the playoffs, of course, when it counted the most…
and you know how much dl loves guys that perform and raise their game during the playoffs…
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eskymi Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
@CB14, I am from Michigan…..When my son and I went to Columbus in march to see LA vs the BlueJackets, we happened to be crossing the street and walked right passed 7 Kings players. We both said hi and good game (we were in Nashville the night before and the Kings won 5-4) and all said “Thanks,” and that was about it. All except Stoll who pointed at my son’s shirt and said, “Yeah, Kings…cool.” And smiled. He then said “enjoy the game tomorrow,” Then when we went to Detroit and Chicago the next two games, during warm ups Stoll recognized my son and he skated by several times and waved and smiled, etc….
So just for making my son that happy, he’s worth 3 million to me…
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
@eskymi, that’s great, something as simple as that can make your trip much more memorable…
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Osaka Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@CB14, Didn’t Stoll’s role change since the Kings picked up Richards. Didn’t he move from the second line to a checking third line?
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@Osaka, yeah, Stoll got bumped down and basically replaced/upgraded the spot that Handzus had held for a few seasons…perhaps his production was down in part due to his linemates?
Stoll’s OT series clinching goal vs vancouver has been seriously underplayed here, that was one of the franchise’s greatest moments ever. upsetting the #1 seed on their ice in dramatic fashion. say LA dropped that game, now all of a sudden you have a 3-2 series with vancouver 2-0 with both sedins…game 7 in vancouver would not have been out of the question. instead: BAM. dagger in the heart, Kings win.
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
@Osaka, Of course he did, but you already knew that. I expected a drop in production, but not his worst season of his career.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
@CB14,
This is how I see it.
For much of the reg season, the team was out of sorts and JS was playing the wrong position on the wrong line.
This was due to certain others in the squad not living up to their names.
Also MR was banged up and this caused the line to be unable to function as an offensive unit.
When he got back to his proper slot he slowly but surely came into his own and helped the balance of the team to be restored.
Sure he seemed to have lost his shooting touch but he contributed enough in most other ways to help the Kings slog into the playoffs.
As has been made out above, he had an absolutely outstanding playoff campaign and was integral to the success if the Kings.
Despite the lack of scoring last season, trying to replace him in the lineup now would be much harder than it sounds. Chemistry is the main reason I would cite.
Also, I envisage him contributing a lot more on the scoreboard next season as well as the essential grit and energy he brings and continuing to perform a vital role on special teams.
Glad to have Stolly back for 2012/13!
I believe DL made him a very respectful offer and I’ll place money that you’ll see him respond!
Please, DL I know you love D-Men, but we need to bolster depth on the Wing. We already have D depth and are on the verge of losing solid D-Men to UFA status at Manchester without seeing them at the NHL level.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:53 pm
@luc20rules, Disagree. Most guys you pick in the draft, particularly the later picks ain’t gonna see the NHL for 2 or 3 years. By then Mitchell, Greene and Scuderi may be gone. And a forward we get today isn’t likely to step right in and make the roster. Get the best player available. Besides if we have too much at one position and not enough at another we TRADE. Jeff Carter and Dustin Penner, remember?
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
@HockeyNerd, YUP! that’s the game plan!
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Noooooo!!!! Paid too much for most unfav player on Kings. Hope he stops taking bad penalties.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:16 pm
@jcarson17, Penalties crack, you must mean Stoll. He is also so good on the PK that other Kings penalties usually just end up as momentum for the Kings.
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 pm
here, I’ll handle this one: “Hey DL, listen up! Stoll is jcarson17 least favorite King, so can you go ahead and void that contract? Thanks!”
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Hey, half way to our pick.
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Hey Rich, do you ever feel like telling DL to slow down so you have something to write about later or is DL trying to get this all done before you go on vacation?
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Rich Hammond Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Ha…the sooner it’s all done, the better.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@Rich Hammond,
Yep, who needs DL when we have Munters! Thanks for the great coverage on all of this!
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I’d offer Penner a 1 year deal for $1.5-2, if he can do better then that elsewhere then more power to him.
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a lot of you guys really under value stoll, he is a great 3rd Line center. he finishes all his checks, good on the forcheck, great on the draws and is probably our best forward penalty killer. i think 3mil would have been perfect… maybe we did over pay just a tad bit
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@bob, plus he has been MONEY in the OT shootout the past 2 years. since LA barely qualified for the playoffs this shouldn’t be overlooked.
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:38 pm
@Shuchuk, That’s something a lot of people are ignoring.
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Yes! Great job Lombardi!!! All we have left to sign is Penner. I hope we sign King to an extention, also.
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Kingsfaninmonterey Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@Kingsfaninmonterey, King deserves more than just a qualifying offer.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
@Kingsfaninmonterey, All that means is the contract hasn’t been done yet, and he is as a RFA the Kings can match or get compensation if another team signs him to an offer sheet. I would have like to see him signed already too, but with the GMs Code & comp packages/match option I don’t think we need to worry about King leaving the Kings. RFAs just don’t get what they deserve you see that with Jamie Benn, James Neal, Bobby Ryan, etc the pain is negotiations usually drag on for a while.
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has there been ever a happier time to be a kings fan…???
i think not….
we have all the makings a very promising and winning future…
all the pieces are starting to fall into place….
still a lot of work to regarding the quick and bernier situations…
but today really puts our future in perspective…and it looks great….:)
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Mark Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
@variable, If Doughty can avoid the clinker and make it to camp on time this year,then everything should be fine.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
@Mark,
word…(!)
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amazing how at game 60, dl was on the verge of being unemployed at season’s end….
now, we have ample justification to throw him his own victory parade….
unreal how things could change so fast…and for the better…
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
@variable,
All had to do (and did) was listen to us and fire TM and get a goal scorer. Well, there was that earlier 5 years of work too
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Have alot of you noticed that very few of these teams have congratulated the Kings at the podium?
Either they have no class, or alot of these guys may not like DL.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@puck73,
it’s not mandatory that they do…but i totally agree with you…it would be a classy move…
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Shuchuk Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
@variable, who cares? screw them! how’d you feel if you just got steamrolled?
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
@Shuchuk,
yeah…not a big deal to me either…
vplaza Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
@puck73,
I only recall Pittsburgh doing it. Weaksauce.
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FiG17 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
@vplaza,
Anaheim did it, oddly enough. Chicago just did, too.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
@FiG17,
anahim was the first one to do so…gotta love that…
vplaza Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
@FiG17,
Just rally weak that others aren’t doing it. Did the Kings not congratulate the champions of past? But some of the teams that didn’t have never won it. Just weaksauce.
FiG17 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
@puck73,
Considering they also aren’t thanking the host thing, which is another traditionally classy thing most teams do… I’d say the former.
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FiG17 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@FiG17,
host city, not thing… got ahead of myself.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
@puck73, Just use it to help fuel that drives this team to winning another cup next year.
Go Kings Go!
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trytodethroneus Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@puck73,
They are under pressure by their fans to “be like the KINGS”, and it’s pissing them off.
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bobby m. announcing our good news to the rest of the world…
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I like both deals. Stoll’s value goes beyond just stats, IMHO.
Faceoffs, penalty killing, dressing room character guy, and genuinely wants to play for LA. He took a cut in pay to stay. The length of the contract may put off some folks, but it’s not terrible.
One of my gripes with him this year was his Shankopotomus tendency, but that didn’t show up in the playoffs, and so I’m hopeful.
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Here’s a list of teams so far who haven’t congratulated the Kings.
Oils,Jackets,Isles,Wild,Jets,TB,Caps,Sabres,Stars,Ott., and Sharks.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:38 pm
@taz42, The Sharks and Oilers dont surprise me at all. Wonder if the Yotes will?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
@puck73,
It’s Maloney, right?
It’s pretty much an automatic that he would!
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vinny Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:53 pm
@puck73, ha!
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The Gondor Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@taz42, Interesting. These are mostly the losers of the league, teams who usually never win. The old school teams (Montreal, Leafs and Chicago) and recently successful ones (Pittsburgh and The Ducks) seem to GET that giving props is the way to go.
I don’t know about you, but I can see it very clearly that there are TWENTY NINE other teams that are in that building with the knowledge that OUR LOS ANGELESE KINGS are the reigning champions of their putting together a good hockey team world. And they are now trying to find a way to dethrone US.
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I think that DL is wanting to have the known factor of good, solid character guys with chemistry vs. the unknown of maybe getting free agents to fit into a system that is pretty damn good already.
A good team will beat a bunch of flashy stars any day of the week.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
@The Gondor, Yes, I heard the 2012 Stanley Cup Champion LA Kings proved that.
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Love the booing of Holmgren….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
@SLIM,
Likewise.
His responses are funny, too..
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Flyers add to list of jealous teams ignoring Kings
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@taz42, Maybe the higher ups with the Flyers think that someone in the Kings organization was the one that threw that Bannana at Simmods!?
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@puck73, We loved Simmer no one here would do it. Does anyone know if Avery had an alibi?
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@taz42,
Ironic they chose a guy projected to be a player like Mike Richards. Didn’t they have a guy like that? Oh wait…
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Bring back Penner. HIs pancakes came through in the playoffs and he had excellent chemistry on that second line with Carter and Richards. When he uses his size to protect the puck, work in the corners, and crowd the net, he’s just awesome. I just hope he keeps playing like that in the next season.
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That was pretty cool of Feaster, considering he’s not Albertan, himself.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@Duncanz, That was indeed very cool!
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Harry Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
@Duncanz, agreed…..
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When you think about it, how many kids being drafted in this first round now, are going to be BETTER hockey players over their career than Stoll and Fraser?
How many of them will NEVER get a chance to lift The Cup?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
@The Gondor, Ask me in about … 9 years!
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Calgary congratulated us.
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So the 2012/2013 Kings line-up is set?
Brown-Kopitar-Williams
Gagne-Richards-Carter
King-Stoll-Lewis
Clifford-Fraser-Nolan
Doughty-Scuderi
Martinez-Greene
Voynov-Mitchell
Quick
Bernier
The last big priority still remaining is Quick and a contract extension. I’m guessing Penner is out. Richardson/Lotki/Westgarth are fill-ins. So what’s left? There’s just no more room at the top. What if we acquire Parise, then who gets tossed out? Parise is a top 2 left wing. Who goes, Brown? Gagne? I’m with those who think Gagne is going to retire. I also think that at some point during the season, either Greene or Scuderi is history and the Kings will insert one of their young defensemen into the lineup. As funny as it sounds, Doty, Martinez, and Voynov are now “seasoned” Stanley Cup veterans. I think the Kings are already thinking ahead beyond next year.
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
@UglyinLA,
Wouldn’t be surprised if Gagne retires, or if Loktionov is traded. Brown won’t be the odd man out if Parise ends up here.
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regulate Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 am
@KingMe20,
Gagne is not retiring, he has already said it publicly. Stop the madness!
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
@UglyinLA, Greene, Scuderi, and Mitchell are going nowhere. These 3 maybe the best tandem stay at home defensemen with experience in the entire NHL.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:59 pm
@UglyinLA, It’s not that simple. If we get Parise, we make room. If Toffoli is ready, we make room. If Hickey or Muzzin or Forbort is ready, Drewiske goes. IF. That’s why you have a training camp. True, most players you mentioned are not in question. But Westgarth, Clifford, Nolan, King and Richardson in particular will not be GIVEN roster spots just by showing up in training camp. There will be competition.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@HockeyNerd, Very well stated.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
@UglyinLA,
i just can’t see louie giving up on parise…
i think he will be a devil for life and a lot of what’s going on through the media is tactical negotiation strategy by both parties….
also….
you have to consider the kings future payroll considerations….
i’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s very hard for any team to carry 5-7 players making more than %5+mil a year…except if yr the yankees…
and as we know, this ain’t baseball…
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Two Buttons on the same cardigan …
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
@Duncanz,
Two Buttons < 1 Hayturd
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SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@Duncanz,
Wish he would “Button” his mouth..
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
@SLIM,
No chance! He is the NHLN Admiral of the Draft Fleet, what with his unparalleled experience as a Scout & GM.
Excellency, thy name is Craig !
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
@Duncanz,
hehe…
that’s a button that doesn’t fit my coat…:)
“you named names…!”
Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
@vainiable,
Well, you are in fine and revered company … according to @SVELTEY!
Good news & good work DL. Both JS & CF bring good qualities to the team & on the ice. For all who think we overpaid JS, we are making up the difference with the CF signing. I doubted DL last season until he pulled the trigger on the Carter trade. DL gets the benefit of the doubt from me. Me thinks DL knows exactly what he is doing!
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Might get a bit of scrutiny, but I do not think this is worth it at all. Stoll is strong on face offs but where else is he worth this much? He is the worst skater on the team IMO and cannot hit and often takes stupid penalties. Say what you will but I do not agree with resigning him. But hopefully I am wrong and he produces.
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
@Neil,
He gets you standings points with shoot out goals too. Can’t emphasize enough how important those have become.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@Neil,
Worst skater on the team, really?
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Neil Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@Neil, He will only get worse. We have younger guys in the organization that will be much better than him within the 3 years he is signed. I’m just not loving this!
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@Neil, Stoll is a strong DEFENSIVE center. The goals that DON’T go into your net are just as important as the ones you score. And no, you do not have to necessarily hit someone senseless to defend against them.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@Neil, Disagree, he was vital to one of the best PKs in the league and was a huge factor in the 2nd best D in the NHL. As the 3rd line center his responsibilty was D first that is why his scoring dropped off. I think the penalities will be reduced, you have to understand that this was his first year in this role he has always been a 1st or 2nd line center. He had to learn on the fly to be more physical and do all the things required of his position as a 3rd line center. I think it shows alot that he took less money and willing to play a less glamerious role then if he went to a team needing a 2nd line center. Stoll is a team first guy and we are lucky to have him.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
@Neil,
worst skater…???
that title belongs to penner if he remains a king – and it’s not even close…
i think it was a perfect deal for both the team and the player…if it doesn’t work out or a prospect outplays him, his contract is very moveable…
sorry, my friend…disagree with you on this one…
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JD Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
@Neil, Are you sure were talking about the same Stoll, I don’t think we would have won the cup this year without him
Great day for DL
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
@Neil, Thanks for taking the heat off me.
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neil Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
@CB14, btw this was from another Neil…I like Stoll. The long time King fan..Neil..
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Neil Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
@CB14, Haha. I understand that he has ha his moments of playing well but I think it’s too much.
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bbb7 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
@Neil, Stoll was a major physical force ion the playoffs; he threw his weight around whenever he could and he’s decently fast… and a good Pk… and a good faceoff man… and shootouts. He’s a guy who could move up to #2 center if you have an injury. Maybe he’s not worth $3.25 but you couldnt get him for much less.
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people are starting to congratulate the Kings a bit more… better recognize…..
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I am starting to read reviews of players being selected as possible top 9 forwards now. First 12 or so picks it was projects as top line this that all kinds of positives. So we are getting to the players that will be bottom 6 forwards or 3-6 Dmen in the lineup if they make it at all.
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also… that was Pretty Classy from the GM from Calgary to Congratulate Darryl Sutter personally…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@Harry,
He was the guy that took over from Darryl Sutter.
Probably now, he really appreciates how difficult it is to run the Cakgary Flames!
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Now all the Penguins need is Rico Fata and they have beginnings of a good song…
“Hello Maatta, hello Fata…”
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
@KingMe20,
+1 LoL
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SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
@KingMe20,
Now that’s funny…Good on you..
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:05 pm
@KingMe20,
hehe…
+5
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@KingMe20,
if granato was the coach, you could go on by singing…”here i am at…camp granato(a)”…
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:11 pm
@variable,
Well played, friend.
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Using my best Howard Cosell voice
This is great news indeed
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Hey, I just saw a commercial on the NHL Network saying the Kings won the Stanley Cup? When in the heck did they do that? The next thing you gus will be telling me is that ompon was fired and Stoll and Fraser resigned for the same or less cap hit than last year.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
@DesertKing,
“guys” and “Kompon”
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SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@DesertKing,
wake up..You must be dreaming…
That’s ridonkulus..
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
@DesertKing,
For awhile, I thought you’d gone Gangsta, sanding capital-K off your keyboard in protest of one particular PP coach…
Nice to see you back here in ContentedLand, with the Stanley Cup Champs…
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:05 pm
@DesertKing,
they’ve been running that commercial constantly since they won it….
…and i smile every time i see it…:)
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@variable,
My best moment was running into a guy in a Ducks shirt in a 7-11 in Orange County. I was wearing my 2012 Stanley Cup hat. He looked down and shook his head. He then said, “Damn, that’s really true, isn’t it? Well, we won it first.” I smiled and said, “We won it last!”
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
@KingMe20,
great response…:)
Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:05 pm
@DessertKing,
You are so giddy you can hardly type … or you started celebrating already!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:15 pm
@Duncanz,
You damn skippy I’m giddy! Giddy up and let start on that second Cup!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
@DessertKing,,
And that 5th schooner!
Prost!!!
has there been a pick so far that these tsn guys haven’t praised and liked….?
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
@V,
The Kings haven’t picked, yet…
–Jest Sayin’
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
B…
true dat…
but have some stanley cup confidence, B…
dl is batting 1000 today so far…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 pm
@V,
Anybody know if we actually will get pick #30, or will CBJ snatch it at the last minute?
variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
@B….
we are soon to find out…no announcement has been made yet…
Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@variable,
Wow, you’re right.
This must be the strongest draft of all time, by the sounds of things!
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Brilliant..Best rivalry…
Now brother vs brother…
Best script..
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SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:11 pm
@SLIM,
Subban that is…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
@SVELTE,
So, what are all Joel Ward’s fans at Boston Bruins going to do for sport now, one wonders?!
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What about Rachel Hunter? Did we sign her to the Ice Crew?
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:35 pm
@OCKingsfan,
I see what you did there! Nice shot!
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OK!
So if we want to, now we can let JQ go to the Isles, on the proviso that we can land Fatty Thomas!
That would give the Bummy ex Bruin a wonderful opportunity he couldn’t ever have dreamed of …
A Twopeat on a certain not appreciated Head of State!!!
GoTTGo & GKG !!!!!!!!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
@Duncanz,
oy…(!)
i think i just got in a taxi and need to cal peggy….
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
@V,
One thing no one is pointing out, it’s size, size, SIZE, instead of tiny skilled wings…
Call it the Kings-Devils Cycling Effect.
–No more Mollers…
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:35 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
B..
ah-men….
DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
No more Lokti…..
I’m so glad that Stoll is staying another 3 years and I believe he’s worth his money. Sure, he’s got the age factor (turning 30 on Sunday) and the arthritis issue in his hips (I think that’s right), but he really proved himself during the playoffs and in the SC Finals. I love watching him out there with Richards, Penner, Brownie, Carter, Doughty, and Kopi. I truly believe that Jarret still has a bit more to prove. Let’s just hope he can do it. That’s my 2¢
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
@KingsFaninMA, Those are some pretty strong pennies you just posted!
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KingsFaninMA Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
@puck73, It’s my opinion. I mean, isn’t that what this board is for? If there are errors in what I said, I’ll admit to being wrong with things I posted.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 pm
@KingsFaninMA, It was a compliment, I liked your post, and agreed 100%
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
@KingsFaninMA,
Yep…
@puck73 is on your side, & making a pun based upon a few frozen pennies in the Staples Ice this season…
http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/06/16/pennies-from-heaven/
The Gondor Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
KingsFaninMA, Your two cents worth line was what warranted the pennies reference, I think.
It was a compliment. I think a lot of people are glad we got Stollie back.
(And I think the price was pretty much market value)
KingsFaninMA Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
@puck73, I apologize if I thought you were disagreeing with me.
I am glad that Stolly is back for 3 more years. I totally forgot about the pennies reference that I think Luc and Bailey dug out from the middle of the ice recently.
@The Gondor, Yes, the price was definitely worth it! I love Stoll!
GENTLEMENS BETTING POOL
What’s the bet on Penner what we do with Penner?
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SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
@Lake Forest,
first find some gentlemen…
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
@Lake Forest,
i give him a 25% chance of staying…
no way dean signs him for more than $2.75…and i would hope it would be a one year deal if he does….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
@Lake Forest,
Overpay for him.
Let Quicker walk.
Sign Fatty Thomas off the waiver wire or whatever wire he’s not going to balance on for long.
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haha….great tweet by the kings…(!)
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SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
@variable,
Now for the teams we beat…
They are consistently funny..
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
@V,
Cocky, puerile yet expansive…
–Gotta love our @LAKings!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
B…
+1000 for using the adjective puerile….
awesome…(!)
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Our Twitter makes me so proud.
No grats from St. Louis.
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All of you “it’s too much” or “it’s too long” people crack me up. Not only is DL not an idiot, he knows that he holds all the cards in a buyers market. Both good signings.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:28 pm
@Cav Pilot, DL is a big bafoon. I said he should have been fired 2 seasons ago, and I will not waiver. In fact, that tecnichally poor goalie Quick should be given the boot! What do we need this clown for when we have someone as talented as Bernier?
Thanks for your time, Respectfully James “@poorman” Trenton.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:33 pm
@poorman73,
Actually, you did…….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
@Kingsfannone,
And he did!
You’re right!!
I remember it well …
Trip Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
@puck73, ROTFLMFAO!!!!
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Cav Pilot Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
@puck73, Too funny!
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Gustavo Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
@Cav Pilot,
I agree with you, both are good to have back on the roster. I just did not think DL would be willing to pay Stoll anywhere near $3 mill. I bet Sutter influenced it, he loves Stoll’s physical play.
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what did twitter say?
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FiG17 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
@Lake Forest,
“Next up in the #NHLDraft, the four teams we beat to become Stanley Cup Champions”
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vinny Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
@FiG17, awesome, thanks, couldnt find it either
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maloney skips the DAP….
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Malignant Maloney.
InCREDible!!!!
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Wow, Don Maloney didnt congratulate the Kings.
GEEEE, IM SHOCKED!
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
@puck73,
maloney rhymes with baloney….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
@variable, Funny, I expected @SVELTEY to get in 1st with that one!
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Oh surprise, the Cryotes did not congratulate the LAK on winning the Cup.
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Did Nickelback win the Stanley Cup?
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Perfect another sore loser on Yotes…
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
@SLIM,
The guy couldn’t even talk. Seemed like he had spent to much time in the sun using meth.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
@DesertKing, LMAO ! Man, he looked like he got sucked up in an Oreck vacuum commercial !
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
@puck73,
He will be in a new superhero movie next summer. BlownMan!!!
variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@puck73,
hehe…
good one…:)
SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
@DesertKing,
I meant the player they picked….
Suspended every 15 games….
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
@SLIM,
Ooops! Sorry!
maloney should have thanked us for tippet, at least….
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In fairness to Don Malooney, he just seems clueless generally.
Wanted to get in an out quickly as he could.
Didn’t give props to Pitt either.
Obviously wanted to preserve his prodigious personality for next time!
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here’s another good thing that happened today…
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/sports/ncaafootball/jerry-sandusky-convicted-of-sexually-abusing-boys.html?_r=1&emc=na
my deepest sympathy to all the victims that this monster ruined…
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concussionman02 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
@variable, now he will feel what its like to be on the other end of a session
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
@V,
Beat me to that…
Karma & the prison system will take it from here.
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I smile every time I hear someone refer to us as “The Champs”. It will never get old!
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Speaking of Twitter:
Rich Hammond @lakingsinsider
Kings officially retain No. 30 pick. Columbus will get the Kings’ first-round pick next year as part of the Jeff Carter trade.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, Thank You
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
B…
cool…
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Trip Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, It will be #30 again!
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
@Trip, lets hope its not because Bettman & Fehr can’t play nice.
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CB14 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, Hope we take Collberg or Aberg.
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Kings almost up. Hoping they take Stefan Matteau or Phillip Di Giuseppe.
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
@luc20rules, Actually would like Tanner Pearson.
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The Devils took Matteau, that’s funny.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
@KingMe20,
yep…exactly….
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
@KingMe20, I faked them I want Tanner Pearson.
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“Matteau…!….Matteau!”….
how ironic…
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
@variable, The year the Draft Party was at the Nokia Theater. I remember being so upset that we traded down 3 picks instead of taking Tyler Myers that a family actually moved away from me. As I was muttering to myself about how we should have taken him, I still held hope that we would still get him. Buffalo took him a pick, before and I was probably just bright red full of anger. I hope, I am as right this time. That was still a great draft Doughty, Voynov, Czarnik, Loki, Teubert(was traded for Penner) and Azevedo. Just imagine if Myer replaced Teubert & (I think 3rd 2009 Desaularies).
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Nice
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ok….
here we go…(!)
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The CHAMPS are on the clock
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Here comes the cup!!!!
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DL! DL! DL! DL! DL!
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That big Cup is flying around more than Hermosa chicks’ improper actions allegations!!
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Its a left wing! Its a left wing! woo hooooooo! Is that good?
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
@DesertKing, OMG is this the Real DL??? A Left winger!!
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See the size of Tanner’s parents…
Wow..Big boy coming up..
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
@SVELTE
In contrast to yourself, I sense some lipo in his future!
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
@SLIM, Really we got Tanner Pearson, I am waiting for yahoo to update the list.
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SLIM Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
@luc20rules,
Yep..We got Tanner..
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luc20rules Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
@SLIM, Thanks, I guess, I may as well gone home early not getting much accomplished here, but then again now I need to stay here until about 10pm. I have the energy now that the Kings took the sleeper of the draft in my opinion.
Nice pick!
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OMG!!!
For a second there I thought we picked the blimpy guy …
PHEWWWWW!!!!!!!!
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
@Duncanz, LMAO! Thats what I thought too!
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The Gondor Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
@Duncanz, I thought the same thing. Maybe we drafter a guy that could block the goal mouth during a scramble in front of our net.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
@The Gondor,
What scramble? Just plop him there!
Now I’ve thought about it a few minutes, can we send send back Jr, dump Quicker, and sign Pearson Sr at 1.8 Mil?
Lateral movement and glove speed be damned!
All he’ll need is a good helmet!!
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The Gondor Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
@Duncanz, Funniest post of the night.
well we needed a left wing….
and we got one…
maybe he could play on the right side, too….
being compared to vinny prospal ain’t too bad either…
we shall wee about three years from now…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
@V,
No thank you to PGH…
–Hope you’re correct.
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variable Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
B….
i hope so, too…
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awsome!!
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Good size, good hands. Like the pick.
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puck73 Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
@KingMe20, Me too. I trust DL and his scouts.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
@KingMe20,
His shot and release looked a little like Carter’s.
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I can’t believe Stoll took a pay cut, he had an amazing post season performance. He wasn’t the best player, but he had the biggest improvement of all the players, except maybe Penner. Great to see Fraser extend as well. Great news for the organization, it will be interesting to see what happens with Penner, we know he wants to stay here, but hopefully that won’t break our bank at the same time.
Also it looks like we picked up Tanner Pearson from Barrie (OHL). Do we need another LW’er though?
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The Gondor Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain, Don’t you think anyone we would have picked is a good three years from coming in and cracking this team’s lineup?
At that time, who knows where our needs will be.
I’m trusting DL on this one.
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now, we just gotta get the nhl network to put in kathryn tappen’s new contract that she’s only allowed to wear high-end formal wear when on t.v…..
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good pick! like it.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=181570
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Yes! for the first time since Doughty I got the player I wanted at the draftable time. Yes, I would have gone Stamkos, Doughty at that time, but since we had the second pick best available. We picked 30th and I put out the bait for NJ. We got Tanner Pearson.
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This is just sound investing. The Kings are gonna be good for a while…
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As we are weak in LW compared to all the other positions, Tanner should move up the ranks quick.
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Kings LW prospect Andy Andreoff 6’1″ 201 lbs is tearing it up in Juniors.
Oshawa Generals 57 games – 22 G, 36 A, 58pts just turned 21 in May.
Is the top prospect at LW right now. Dwight King is also age 22 a
LW we all got to see in the Stanley Cup Run & Playoffs.
I really like Tanner Pearson though, and
think he will be a King in the future.
Great Job DL keep that Cupboard Full.
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Could not be more excited to have Stollie on the team for 3 more years! I wasn’t looking forward to a season without him or my #28 Stoll jersey! GKG!!!
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The Kings need to make a run at Zach Parise before they commit to Penner.
They could also look at getting Bobby Ryan away from Anaheim, he’s a more consistent scorer than Penner has been.
I think if we lose Penner we have other guys that can take his spot like King, Nolan or Gagne.
The team needs to get Quick signed next and look at signing one of the backups from Columbus and trade Bernier for a couple of draft picks.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
@Jason W.,
I like Ryan.
He’s 25, with 3 years renaining on his contract at $5.1 Mil, right now.
He needs to learn backchecking sometimes but he’s got a significant upside, I believe.
Lives in SoCal already so no nightmarish continental transition.
I really think this was part of what was affecting Mike Richards for a while back there.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he was just a little interested in following in DP’s footsteps and coming over from the “Duck side”, too!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Add to that, he’s scored 30+ Goals & 26+ Assists in each of his 4 seasons and last missed a game 3 years ago!
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I think 3.25 mil a year for 3 years is outrageous. For 6 goals and 16 assists?
Pfft. Unbelievable. Bad move imho. Too many years and too long.
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kb Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 2:25 am
@KC23, everyone on the team had an off season. he scored 20 the year before. he is a huge faceoff guy great two way player will def score more next season solid chemistry leader in the locker room just integral to us winning the cup, oh and he’s only 30. he could have fetched another mil easily elsewhere. i think it’s on the high side but not outrageous. oh not to mention his shoot out abilities and his ot winner in game 5 with vancouver. depth player role player play off player umm this dude is awesome. penner on the other hand i don’t feel is worth anything over 3.
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too much for too long for Stoll. Wanted to keep him but not at that price. Conversely, Frazer is a downright steal! He deserves more. Love that guy!
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Good moves by the Kings. Stoll is much better than other players the Kings have had in his role (Armstrong for one) and haven proven himself along with the rest of players on the march to the cup, it’s a smart signing. It’s possible that Fraser is underpaid and Stoll overpaid but that wouldn’t be known for maybe 2 years.
I’m starting to get over my past displeasure with AEG and Lombardi.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
@cromartee,
Well, how very concessionary of you.
I am sure they will do everything in their power to bring you a World Series, a Superbowl and an NBA Championship to go with the lone Stanley Cup they were lucky to nab you, oh also the MLS Cup.
Make sure you always keep their feet to the fire or they might forget what it’s like to work relentlessly just to sculpt a smile on a single fan’s deserving face!
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cromartee Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 am
@Duncanz,
It’s funny how just about two games (or was it one) was all it kept from most everyone here from being in my camp on this. It’s also funny how many Kings fans I knew were as hard or harder on the management than I was.
Deserves aint got nothing to do with it!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 2:36 am
@cromartee,
Well, it was two games but, after all, isn’t that the history of sports?
One post or crossbar, a last ditch goal or save, a single point or a game or two?
We can second guess all we like about what may or may not have been.
All the losing clubs (fans) are doing that.
I’m going to go not with what could’ve been and isn’t, but what veritably is!
We are a winning club.
And one day soon, it’s going to dawn on you that Dean and AEG are champions as much as events in the past seemed like they were going to convince you they wouldn’t be.
Other unfortunate franchises can no longer deny it.
Why would we be continuing to deny it to ourselves?
We are The LA Kings, Hockey’s Stanley Cup Champions!!
Read it and sleep … well …
I hate to see anyone on a championship team leave but to get better the Kings need to dump Penner. he is too slow and does not handle the puck as well as the Kings need him to. I agree with TheAcaciaStrain saying its remarkable that Stoll took a pay cut but thats the kind of team player I believe he is. The Kings can go into another playoffs with the team intact and probably win the Cup but I would like one more goal scorer and Penner needs to go to make room. i also dont see much help coming from Gagne but to be fair he wasnt healthy. I like the draft pick but dont see him making the Kings for at least a year. Signing a Parise like scorer guarantees another Stanley Cup. i think this coming year will be the breakout year for Nolan and Dwight King is solid as a rock.
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Pili Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 am
@Bill G, I don’t agree. Speed has never been part of his game, although he anticipates well and sometimes gets a surprising jump. His strength IS his strength, very strong on the puck, driving to the net and planting his large self in front of the net. I think he is what the Kings need him to be, and the chemistry he has with his tesmmates both on the ice and off is a solidifying aspect. I hope Penns is back, if for no reason than if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it. When it really counted, including making the playoffs, this group works very well.
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@DesertKing, did you end up making it to game 6? Didnt get to buy you a beer
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Great News!!
Stoll is one of the keys to the Kingdom!
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Great moves! Although I do see some other stuff being tried on the 4th line this year … plus what are the chances Westy AND Cliffy won’t make the big roster, and then a roster spot frees up. Westy to Manchester? Do the Kings still need an enforcer with their size?
Prediction as some others….
Gagne gets bought out for $1.5M — hey you played 3 playoff games and we got you the cup. Congrats Simon, give your body the rest it’s been begging for…
Penner signs 1 year deal at $2.75M.
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I have a question, if someone knows….so the cap is now around 70 million. Kings have about 11 million left. They have 22 men on roster, need what 23? Let’s say the NHL gets it’s way and the revenue is cut so the cap drops to 64 million. Now LA has only 5 million cap space…how do they fit Quick in now for next year?
I mean, I was looking at Capgeek and it shows a team like San Jose having 11 million is space, but only 15 men on the roster…so that means they need to have like 8 guys to fill out the roster, but what if the cap drops to 64 million, they’d have 5 million to sign 8 guys….or am I missing something?
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kluka68 Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 10:52 am
@eskymi, If you are talking next year, then Gagne and Richarson will be off the books and that’s 3.5M and 1.175M respectively. If you count Quicks own 1.8M cap hit which he has now and add money from the 2 players that he could potentially have cap hit of 6.475 M under the same cap as we have now. Gagne won’t come back in 2013-14 season, and i believe Richarson will be traded at some point this season.
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eskymi Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 11:00 am
@kluka68, YOu know the stupid thing is that whenever I figure a new contract for a player, I always forget to add in what they are already making. So I am figuring 6 million for Quick, and adding that to the figure we have for cap space but forget that he’s already at 1.8 so it’s more like 4.2 additional, not six….. I ALWAYS forget that.
Thanks for reminding me. PLus I read elsewhere that if the cut is 4 or 5% on the cap, the salaries of players will probably drop that much, so it’s a wash on the cap and shouldn’t affect teams spending.
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I think this is great news. this pleases me.
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now sign Pens
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YES!!!! Another Stoli for the goalie please! I really think guys like Stoll, Fraser, King, Richardson, Nolan, and a couple of other role players on the team stepped it up this year and obviously throughout the playoffs. I’m glad that one KEY piece of the Championship puzzle has been locked down for another 3 years. Stoli is one of the vital arteries on this team, and I’m so glad for him, his family, and US Kings fans.
Thanks for the remarkable, wonderful, and awesome memories this season!
GO KINGS GO
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I’m not the sharpest hammer in the fridge but am I the only one that thinks this team can repeat? I don’t know much about behind the scenes back room player deals and UFA’s and RFA’s and cap space and all that….but I DO know that no team in the NHL has our talent level and is as deep as we are. The only one that would be close…IF they got Parise is Philly…and their goaltending is now questionable…so….I really like our team “this” year for this year. Can anyone say DYNASTY? GO KINGS GO….FOREVER!!!!!!!
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Real 7 Reply:
June 24th, 2012 at 12:31 am
@TiresOfIt, sharp….hammer….fridge…?
you lost me right off….sorry, no dynasty, as has been proven year after year….
how many “repeaters” have there been in recent years?
but there is certainly enough optimism to go around The World on this board,
so we’ll see….as much as I’d like to see a Repeat, or a Threepeat, it is a long shot….
more realistic might be Three Cups in the next….say…6/7 years….I’d take that…
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