Back to hockey for a while… First, the Montreal Canadiens announced today that they have hired former Kings forward Ethan Moreau as a scout. Also, the NHL Awards will be handed out tonight in Las Vegas, with coverage to begin at 4 p.m. Pacific time on NBC Sports Network. Jonathan Quick is one of three finalists for the Vezina Trophy, while Dustin Brown is one of three finalists for the Mark Messier Leadership Award.
Voting for the Vezina — among NHL general managers — was concluded at the regular season, so the award will not reflect playoff success. That will hurt Quick, who is a finalist along with Henrik Lundqvist of the New York Rangers and Pekka Rinne of the Nashville Predators. None of the three has won the Vezina, and the regular-season numbers are very close…
Lundqvist: 39-18-5 record, 1.97 goals-against average, .930 save percentage, eight shutouts.
Quick: 35-21-13 record, 1.95 goals-against average, .929 save percentage, 10 shutouts.
Rinne: 43-18-8 record, 2.39 goals-against average, .923 save percentage, five shutouts.
In a statistical sense, each goalie brings something to the table. Quick has the lowest goals-against average and most shutouts, Lundqvist has the highest save percentage and Rinne has the most wins. At the risk of falling into the “East Coast bias” trap, when the race appears to be tight, look East. I would have voted for Quick, but I’d be surprised if Lundqvist didn’t win.
Brown, along with Ryan Callahan of the Rangers and Shane Doan of the Phoenix Coyotes, is up for the Mark Messier Leadership Award, personally selected by the Hall of Famer to recognize “the player who exemplifies great leadership qualities to his team, on and off the ice during the regular season.”
Here’s the rest of the major award finalists, as well as a chance for you to vote as to who you think will win each of the awards…
HART (MVP) — Henrik Lundqvist (Rangers), Evgeni Malkin (Penguins), Steven Stamkos (Lightning).
NORRIS (defenseman) — Zdeno Chara (Bruins), Erik Karlsson (Senators), Shea Weber (Predators).
CALDER (rookie) — Adam Henrique (Devils), Gabriel Landeskog (Avalanche), Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Oilers).
SELKE (defensive forward) — David Backes (Blues), Patrice Bergeron (Bruins), Pavel Datsyuk (Red Wings).
LADY BYNG (sportsmanship) — Brian Campbell (Panthers), Jordan Eberle (Oilers), Matt Moulson (Islanders).
JACK ADAMS (coach) — Ken Hitchcock (Blues), Paul MacLean (Senators), John Tortorella (Rangers).
As much as I think Quick should win the award, the east coast bias will kick in and Lundqvist will probably win.
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BringBackButchGoring Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:27 am
@spidey35, From purely a statistical standpoint, I can not complain if Lundqvist wins. The fact is (regardless of east coast bias), the Eastern Conference plays a much more wide open game. It’s harder having a good GAA against Philly, Pittsburg, Boston etc. than Phx, St Louis, Dallas etc.
That said, it’s clear from the playoffs that Quick is a better goalie and that should definitely help him next year…
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Paulhb Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
@BringBackButchGoring, The eastern conference also has a lot less travel then the west. If Lundquist were in the west he’d probably have worse stats then he does. I wouldn’t be shocked if Lundy wins but I think the GMs will not show the bias the press would.
What I don’t get is how Stamkos is nominated for the Hart?? I don’t care if you score 100 goals, if you don’t make the playoffs how valuable are you really??
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@spidey35, Lundy will win because at the time of voting, my guess is that a lot of voters predicted that he’d have a great chance at the Cup+Conn Smythe so IMO they wanted to make sure he got the Vezina just in case their thoughts came to fruition. And nobody could argue with them for picking Lundy except for every Kings fan in the world. IDK, but I think nobody has ever taken home all 3 pieces of hardware, have they?
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WAKingsFan Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@Stuart, Tim Thomas?
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
@WAKingsFan, just last year??? LOL My memory fails me! Yes, he was only the second one, they say… thanks!
Michael J. Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
@WAKingsFan,
I thought you were sick
KingMe20 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@spidey35,
If the voting were done by the media, I would agree, but the voting is done by the GMs, so it’s hard to say whether there would be an East Coast Bias in this equation. I’m inclined to believe that the GMs, being spread out over the nation, tend to be a little more knowledgeable about the entire league.
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fuzzerson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@spidey35, The fact that Lindquist is a finalist for the Hart almost assures Quick wont win.
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MM Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
@fuzzerson, This was my thought process as well. It would be difficult to not vote for Lundqvist as the best goalie with him being nominated for the best player in the NHL award. Quick had a great season and put the Kings on his shoulders and into the playoffs but I think Lundqvist will win.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
@fuzzerson, 100% agree. Which I didn’t get. MY thought process says it makes more sense to nominate Quick for the Hart rather than the Vezina, they got it backwards. No Quick and we’d be neck and neck with oh say the Columbus Bluejackets.
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MOSH Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@spidey35, What else matters if we are stanley cup champs?
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spidey35 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@MOSH, True.
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Jody Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
@MOSH, hear hear
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Quick should win, but I’d be surprised if he did!
I honestly don’t think he cares. he got the trophy he wanted and I’m not talking about the ConnSmyth either.
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fuzzerson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@Lake Forest, Yep Quickie is all about the F^&*in team
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If voting took place in the playoffs, Quick fo sho. But everyone was all up on HL’s jock strap in the regular season. So he will win it.
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Dont get why Quick wasn’t a Hart finalist.
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@thrustable, much greater travesty! He definitely meant more to his team than Stamkos.
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zulov Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
@Stuart, Thats totally true.
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Hackwoods Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
@zulov, And that is why Lundy will win the Vezina. How could a goalie be nominated for the overall MVP of the league (Hart trophy) and not win the best goalie award? Unless the other Vezina finalists are also up for the Hart, but that is not the case. The people that did the nominating thought highly enough of Lundy’s play that he is up for both awards.
Now, I do not agree with a goalie being nominated for the Hart. The Vezina is in place to honor the best goalie in the league, so why they should be eligible for the Hart is not something I agree with. But, since goalies are eligible for the Hart, Quick should certainly be on that list. The Kings are probably in 25th place out of 30 teams if Quick does not play as well as he did, whereas I think the Rangers offense was better than the Kings (226 goals for NYR vs. 194 for LA Kings).
I also think that Quick was the better goalie than Lundy this regular season. I say this based on the fact even though their GAA and Save Percentages were nearly identical, Quick played in 7 more games than Lundy. That is a good amount. Lundy had more wins, but Wins and Losses are not that heavily weighted in my opinion when trying to figure out the best goalie. The goalie has very little, if not zero, control over the team offense, and if a team does not score, the goalie cannot win. The goalie does have control over his save percentage, and Quick was right there. A goalie also has control over his GAA even though both save % and GAA should also include # of shots per game faced. Quick faced 27, and Lundy 28. That is also very close.
So, the fact that Quick and Lundy are very equal in all stats, I still think that even though Lundy had more wins, Quick played in more games and had more shutouts, so Quick should win, but again, the fact that Lundy is up for the Hart, the winner of the Vezina was already established when the Hart nominations were made.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
@Hackwoods, Interesting take on Hart vs. Vezina, etc. One thing to take into account is that the voters are different for the two awards.
Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
@Stuart,
You know though, a lot of this is about marketing/working in the League’s superstars.
It’s the North American way.
It was a tough year for the NHL, with a lot of the elite players, such as Lidstrom, Crosby, Pronger, Hall, Letang, Mike Green, Datsyuk even, all missing significant playing time, so no wonder they found a spot to highlight Stamkos’s name.
Anyway, he’a not doing bad for a guy that was 23, 23 = 46, (9 PP) his rookie season, after a certain “superstar” TV commentator said he was “not ready for the NHL”.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
@thrustable, Agreed.
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letswinthecup2012 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@thrustable, yep….
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The Mark Messier award recipient is decided by Mark Messier?
Anyone going to be surprised if the former Ranger gives it to Callahan?
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DanielC Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:27 am
@Jeesus, I thought the exact same thing..
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Jeesus, If he does and as much as Brownie and Doan deserve it…Callahan is a hell of a captain.
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Scot Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@mrbrett7,
Agree. I would give it to Callahan.
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@mrbrett7,
Just think about these three guys playing on a line at the Olympics: Brown, Backes, and Callahan.
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Crash Davis Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
@mrbrett7, Again…if you based LEADERSHIP (& voting) at season’s end – pick Callahan. But once the Playoffs ensued, no one following NHL hockey for the following 8 weeks would ever discount Dustin’s rising to the occasion as Captain. Took it to the level (4th gear) you really want/expect from a true Captain of a STANLEY CUP WINNING team.
But when you’re bouncing the grandkids on your lap 3-4 decades from now…is it about the MESSIER Award? Or do you look your little buddy in the eye and say, “Grandpa raised the STANLEY CUP”? And…”Your dad, when he was little, blew chocolate mile bubbles with our uncle in the Cup” – (play time for Dustin’s “now” little kids)
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Crash Davis Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
@Crash Davis, “…chocolate milk bubbles with your uncle in the CUP.”
“Rinne will get the Vezina. He’s the only one with 40 wins, right?”
-Darryl Sutter
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jp Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
@4tee, +1
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
@Forty
Nice observation, Coach!
(Runner up: “Kipper”!)
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
@4tee, LOL! I could hear that in his voice.
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If he doesn’t win it then it will cost a few less bucks to sign him and will put less pressure on him next year, plus he already has the trophy that matters
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Logic says Quick, but ECB says Lundqvist.
(East Coast Bias)
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
@vplaz’
I still don’t see why the NHL GMs as a group (remember they’re split 50/50 E/W) would be lead especially to either “coast” in their voting tendencies.
Maybe someone can rationalize this commonly held notion.
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
@Duncanz,
They may be split 50/50 in the conferences, but geographically, not so much. The only teams you could really say are west coast teams are
LA
Anaheim
San Jose
Phoenix
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Colorado (stretching it)
Dallas (stretching it)
Other than that, nearly everyone is much closer to the east than to the west. They get more coverage, watch more games closer to their time zone, etc.
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370455VinSD Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
@vplaza, Also I am assuming that most GM’s, even the ones out “West”, hail from eastern climes which may subconsciously have some influence.
Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
@vplaza, 370455VinSD, What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
The GMs collectively are absolutely equally tuned in to each of the other 29 clubs and must essentially carry no regional consideration that might cloud their judgement.
Why should there even be any doubts about this?
It’s inconceivable that any NHL GM would rely on a supposed one-sided media to make up his mind for him.
This would be unprofessional and remiss.
Wouldn’t be prudent..
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
@Duncanz, What vplaza said, and then there’s the fan/media influence itself–the echo chamber of hockey. What are you hearing? I’m hearing “Quick should get it, but Lundqvist will,” not in this echo chamber, but in the greater one outside. That’s because the east coast fans and media are deafening. “Lundy is due.”
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It’s absurd that Kopitar isn’t in the running for the SELKE !!!
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Klong Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:41 am
@Dan,
Before the playoffs most people did not realize just how good Kopi was. For example, on NHL network they kept talking about how he had “bought in” to the defensive side of the game when Sutter got there, basically ignoring the fact that for three years he has controlled all 200 feet of the ice.
Also, during the preseason Yahoo compiled a list of the top 50 centers in the game and Kopitar was 17th, behind even Mike Richards who was the second center BEHIND KOPITAR. Its just a fact that player out west don’t get the media hype that east coast players do, until they are alone in the spotlight.
Next season will be different as all the Kings have gained the respect they deserve.
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Shakes Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@Klong, i remember that comment about Kopi only bringing it since Sutter came and totally fell off my chair. That one was all TM starting that and I remember Kopi even talking about his lungs burning a few years back when he started playing the full sheet of ice…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
@& Bakes
No credit for Marc Crawford in all of this?
Kenny44 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
@Shakes, I remember when Kopi was last in the All Star Game. He was the only forward actually backchecking and definitely the only center coming back “low and slow” through the defensive zone. Kopi’s a true coach’s kid, and really bought into TM’s teaching.
Paulhb Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Actually I thought the same thing about Stopped. His ability to win faceoffs & kill penalties should have gotten him a nomination.
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Paulhb Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@Paulhb, That was supposed to be “Stoll”. Dumb smartphone.
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Does it bother anyone else that Doan, who was an utter dirtbag after our series with phoenix, is up for a leadership award? Is that really the example that the NHL wants to set? “our leaders cry when they lose and blame it on anyone else but themselves”
I’d rather quick win, but I’ll be satisfied if doan gets nothing.
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Sebastian Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:48 am
@Gerrerd, well, he was nominated before the playoffs started… right? hes not going to win anyway. Messier will pick Callahan
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Gerrerd, Not one bit. Doan has been in this league for 14 years now. Don’t let one incident where he let his emotions get the best of him overatake a great career played by someone who has done more for his franchise than any of us could possibly imagine.
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@mrbrett7, exactly… I’ve already given him a pass.
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SLIM Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@Stuart,
You’re a better man than I, Gunga Din….
No excuse for that behavior..Not a Fan!
BringBackButchGoring Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
@Stuart, I can’t think of a more polarizing figure currently in the NHL than Shane Doan. Either you like this guy or you can’t stand him. This award is also measured on leadership traits off the ice, which none of us are probably familiar with.
Personally I’m in the camp that likes his intensity, leadership and will to win. These are the type of guys that other players rally around and they are extremely important to each team. That’s why PHX will absolutely re-sign Doan and probably at a raise.
What’s pretty amusing is that Brown is pretty polarizing too. A lot of fans and players hate the guy and think he is a dirty player although he is probably one of the cleanest checkers in the NHL.
Perception is everything, I guess
Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
What @SVELTEY said.
I’s have nothing against him winning it some other year, per what @BBBG just said,
But this year it would be a shame after his shameless kick in the teeth to sportsmanship and honor, after Game 5.
That to me was “leadership” in a sense, but leadership from the bottom!
He only succeeded in dragging down his own good name and dragging down his own gullible teammates into the mire.
Shane Doan, b-o-o-o.
I would give him another chance later, as a Kings FA signing, perhaps.
Fair?
Hackwoods Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
@mrbrett7, This award is for this 2011-2012 season, not a career type award. And based on the 2011-2012 season where doan was suspended 3 games by the NHL, and fined $2500 by the NHL for a seperate issue, he should not win this award, nor should he have been nominated. I could not find the issues that caused this suspension or the fine, but they are obviously not for being a great leader. I am down on Doan, as I used to like him, but his playoffs antics were childish, and then I saw something from a 2 years ago regarding his elbow to Jamie Benn, and that completed my now dislike for this guy. He is a dirty, cheap, and whinney player. That is all.
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Naturallawyer Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@Gerrerd, to be fair, he apologized and took ownership of his mistake, admitting that he should’ve controlled his emotions better as a leader. A leader is a person who owns his mistakes and takes responsibility, and Doan did that. His teammates should probably follow his example rather than sticking by their silly conspiracy-theory post game remarks.
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Robert R Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@Gerrerd, That’s right, Doan’s leadership.
In the same vein, some years back I would have nominated John Gotti for a citizenship award.
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New awards ……best playoff coach……winner. ….DS. best blog…..lakingsinsider!….best poster……?
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Michael J. Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:45 am
@neil,
Best poster??? Paul? Dunc? Dominick? Puck?
Most Improved Poster (over last 3 months)… @poorman – his posts have certainly improved a lot!
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McCheese Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@Michael J., +1
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
@Michael J.,
best poster…?
i thought it was still farrah fawcett, circa ’77…
actually, it will be the kings stanley cup championship poster that will be hanging on most of our walls…:)
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
@clear skies,
Was she more costly than Tina Turner to your shoestring schoolboy budget?
variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
@Duncanz,
i had the album covers to utilize with her…:)
spidey35 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@neil, I’d also throw in best mascot. Bailey is the best and I’m not just saying that to say it. Bailey really does a good job of entertaining everyone.
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neil Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:51 am
A@spidey35, agree!
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@spidey35,
Wild Wing probably has something to say about that. Jk
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CoffeyIsForClosers Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@vplaza, Hard to talk when you’re a mascot on fire…
spidey35 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
@vplaza,
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, rotisserie duck……
mrbrett7 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@neil, Best poster? Me, of course…when I’m not on Rich Hammond exile.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
@mrbrunt7,
LMAO!
Reminds me of the olden days song,
“Where did you get that hat?”
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I still think it’s a shame that Lundy was voted top three for the Hart and Quick wasn’t. I can accept that he’ll win the Vezina over Quick, but the Kings wouldn’t have even made the playoffs if it weren’t for Quick. The Rangers probably would have without Lundqvist, just maybe as a lower seed… and we all know how much seeding matters.
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Klong Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:44 am
@FiG17, see my response to Neil about Kopitar and the Selke and replace Kopitar with Quick
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I love JQ, but there can only be one king!:) kopy 4ever!
http://sloking.shutterfly.com/pictures/9
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Michael J. Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@Damjan,
Kopidor!
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@Damjan,
Does this mean Kopi is back home with you guys already?
Looks like he’s at an event in SVN with his SC Champions hat on.
Confirmation?
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I think they should declare a tie for the Messier award between Brownie and Doan…if for no other reason than to have to see the two of them on the stage together!
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Donald_S Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:39 am
@historyguy,
Yeah! That would be a fun, awkward moment!
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pesus Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@historyguy,
I know playoffs dont count but doan should be disqualified for his actions after game 5
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Ot….to lbj…….you dont get anything for winning 3.!!!! i missed hearing that.
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The one real slam dunk (hat trick?) is Hitchcock, he did just an amazing job with the Blues this year.
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Klong Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@Donald_S,
Unfortunately, I think the Vezina is pretty close to a slam dunk as well. You don’t get nominated for the Hart if you’re not already seen as the best goalie.
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Tsanuri Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
@Klong, except the two awards are voted on by different groups.
Vezina GM’s
Hart hockey writers
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Klong Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@Tsanuri,
Regardless, I think this is Lundqvists award to lose since there seems to be a love fest with the guy
Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
@Klong,
Then he must be pretty good and it’d be no disgrace to JQ if HL takes it.
Naturallawyer Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@Klong, I doubt the GMs much care about the media’s infatuation with Lundqvist. GMs like to think they know best. We’ll see which goalie impresses them most. Probably Lundqvist, but not because the media nominated Lundqvist for the Hart.
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McCheese Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
@Donald_S, it may very well be just the oscars for the NHL, but the players care about these awards. Not as much as they care about winning the cup, but they care and it matters to them.
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Since Lundqvist is up for the hart tells me he won the vezna. How stupid would it be if he won the hart but not the vezna.
Does anyone know why you have to be nominated? Why cant the voters vote for whoever they want? Why does it have to be just a 3 legged race? No other sport does that.
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
@pesus, As I understand it, the GM’s do vote for whoever they want and the top 3 become the finalists. Then they vote again for the winner.
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pesus Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
thanks
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I hear a lot about the “East coast bias”. It may be just me but I sure hope that the general managers in the greatest hockey league in the world who vote for the vezina can’t/wouldn’t take the 5 minutes to look at the stats and effect each goalie had for their teams. With that being said Lunquist will win… Stupid East coast bias. Go Kings Go…
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@VegasKingsFan,
I agree. If there was one award that I’d hope wouldn’t be bias, it would be the Vezina. GM’s should take all things into account when making that vote and clearly, the player who achieved the best numbers overall under very difficult circumstances is Quick. No other goalie comes close. It’s not even a contest. You put Quick on Nashville or New York last year and he has numbers that set records. I should be a runaway but it will be a robbery instead.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDuncely.com),
Interesting analysis considering your “slow to convict” pronouncements re DD, only last night.
What the hang got into your Wheaties, this morning?
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
@Duncanz,
What the hang? I see no correlation. Wheaties suck.
Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
@Paul Armbuster (CrimeNewsDaily.com).
We are not allowed to convict DD (nor that lowdown hooker he met in Sharkeez) HB …. but the Vezina Trophy “will” already be daylight robberized?
Maybe you NEED your Wheaties, then!
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
@Duncanz, LOL. I truly still have no idea how you connect the two. One is a criminal case, the other is a sports award. There’s ZERO correlation. Wheaties are horrible.
As much as I would love to see Jonathan “Look at this F’ing Team Here” Quick win the Vezina, the fact is that they vote on the regular season, and each goalie is deserving. The nod will probably go to Lundqvist because:
1. He is the oldest of the three nominees.
2. He has been nominated the most times (4) without ever winning.
3. East coast bias.
If Quick gets even better than he is right now, he’ll get his Vezina trophy someday…
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McCheese Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 11:52 am
@TRStinson, I prefer to simply call him F-Bomb from now on.
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
@McCheese,
JFBQ = Johnathan F-Bomb Quick
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@vplaz’,
Any and all are good, but this one fits really well!
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
@McCheese, F-Bomb Jon?
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Jon (@LAKingsJon) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), You rang?
McCheese Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), like it! FBJ! FBJ! FBJ!
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I think just “F-bomb” will do nicely.
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The boys don’t need any of these individual hand outs. The won the biggest prize, they actually had to fight and play for it. All this crap is just the Oscars for the NHL. Who cares.
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@zulov, true that!!! I won’t even be watching. My only hope is that they give JQ a mic!
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FiG17 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@zulov,
Awards shows like this (and the Oscars), can mean more recognition.
More recognition means more attention.
More attention means more fans.
More fans means more money.
More money means better quality of service for fans like me and you.
It has it’s value.
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Sebastian Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@FiG17, it also raises a players market value when it comes time to resign him. im sure Drew’s camp brought up his Norris nomination many times during negotiations.
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@Sebastian, more players market value means higher ticket prices. sounds good!
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@Sebastian, A lot of good it did two seasons later.
zulov Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
@FiG17, Yeah, its all marketing – in the words of Bill Hicks, “Who here is in marketing? Just kill yourselves.”
No real value there – the real value was in all the things money couldn’t buy, like the Kings actually winning the Stanley Cup!
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I very much hope Doan does NOT win the leadership award for his exceptional display after they lost in game 5. I mean, what a class act right?
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TRStinson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@Neil, I think Doan will win, but only because they voted long before his playoff meltdown…
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@Neil, I wonder if you can find a Vegas bet that he’ll cry in his acceptance speech.
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OT – does anyone know how DB lost all those front teeth? Was it one incident or several over the course of his career?
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Quisp Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@Stuart,
Apple Jolly Ranchers.
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@Quisp, Like the kind from the dispenaries??? I’m taking mine back, stat!
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TRStinson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
@Quisp, I think it was only his central incisor that was lost because of an apple Jolly Rancher. The lateral incisor, I think, was because of a grape Jolly Rancher.
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Quick will not win, I don’t think. For the reasons already enumerated. Voting before playoffs. East Coast reporters don’t stay up late. And I also think Rinne and Quick will split the vote of those who watch West Coast games. That’s okay, though. Quick will just have to be satisfied with THE STANLEY CUP AND CONN SMYTHE.
And now, in negotiations this summer, Lombardi can say, “Well, Jon, I can see maybe if you won the Vezina…”
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@Quisp,
Since voting is done only by GM’s, Quick should respond with, “That’s fair Dean, but let me ask you once question: who did YOU vote for?”
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TRStinson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall for that one!
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
DL: Easy….Kipper. He’s won 40 games.
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@Quisp,
i’s also because gm’s and voter overall tend to reward players with their recent body of work over the last few years…henrik has been nominated before…and perhaps, should have won then…i think that’s really the only edge that he has over quick…the gm’s might be more inclined to give it to him because he hasn’t won it before,,,
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zulov Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@Quisp, Nah, Quick will respond with “look at this f***** guy”
He is so Tony Montana I can’t contain myself. After every win from now on I want the mic handed to Quick so he can say “Look at this f****** team” and the crowd to go completely APE.
The Kings Parade had the most AWESOME memorable moments I have ever seen on LIVE TV.
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
@zulov, If he wins the Vezina, maybe Quick will give us the “say goodnight to the bad guy” speech, after taking all the heat for his rally speech.
That would be something!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
@Quisp, “Quick will just have to be satisfied with THE STANLEY CUP AND CONN SMYTHE.”
Exactly! That’s what I was telling all the ECBs online…they can have the CONSOLATION PRIZE, Quick’s already got the two that matter, and we all know who the best goaltender is. Lundy can take his booby prize for all those OTHER seasons. Gives Quick more to work for.
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Random Thought of the Day:
When Kings assistant GM Ron Hextall won the Vezina trophy with the Flyers, Jonathan “F-Bomb” Quick was 1 year old…
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@TRStinson, Ironically, the f-bomb was Jonathan’s first word AND it was on the day Hextall won it.
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TRStinson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Damn! What a perfect add-on to my comment! Darn my short attension span! I should have thought to add that myself… Wait, what were we talking about again?
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
@Paul Armbruster (DailyNewsMonthly.com),
Maybe Quicker had the “Hex”‘ on him right from the start!
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The San Diego Chicken Memorial best mascot award: Bailey
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i’m sure vegas is having a nice day fielding last-minute bets on who the winners will be….
i had it…:
henrik – vezina (reluctantly)
malkin – hart (not even close…if quick wasn’t nominated)
weber – norris
landeskog – calder
datsyuk – selke (gee…what a surprise…(!))
campbell – lady byng
hitchcock – jack adams
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
@variable, Pretty on targer, but it took me a few minutes to decide the Calder. IF RNH wasn’t injured, I dont think this would even be debatable.
Also for the Calder, do they consider play offs? Obviously that would have an effect also
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@Lake Forest,
i agree about RNH…if he was healthy, he would have runaway with it…
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The Ryan Getzlaf Worst Hair Award: Ryan Getzlaf
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Sebastian Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@Shakes, is that award sponsored by Rogaine?
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@Sebastian, Hair Club for Men
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Shakes Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
@Sebastian, the weird thing is that if he just shaved his head he would look better, but instead he’s stuck in this weird limbo land. Plus he plays for the Ducks, so that doesn’t help either.
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
@Shakes, Maybe he has an unfortunate birthmark under there. Did you ever see that episode of 30 Rock where the balding guy finally shaves his head?
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
@Sebastian, Sponsored by Couvré.
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King Alex Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@Shakes, Award to be presented by Homer J. Simpson and his 3 hairs which is 2 more that Getzlaf has!
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Quick all the way! lowest GAA and the Stanley Cup…. no brainer
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I cant believe Sutter isn’t in the running for coach of the year, we went from the lowest scoring team in the regular season to a powerhouse in the post season, we had the best record since he joined and he had everyone playing a full 60 minute game, every game, even in loses. I can’t fathom how Hitchcock is getting so much attention when Sutter truly has done a lot more for the team he joined mid-season.
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain,
Probably because Hitchcock pretty much had nothing in his cupboard and managed to get the 2nd seed.
Sutter, on the other hand, had plenty of talent, albeit, underachieving talent, but who did Hitch have?
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TheAcaciaStrain Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@vplaza, Hitchcock vs Sutter happened in the playoffs, he couldn’t manage a win. He couldn’t hold a lead for more than 8 minutes the entire series. Those are prime examples of coaching successes and coaching failures. Sutter definitely succeeded when put head to head vs Hitchcock. Do you think the Kings would have won the stanley cup the way they did without Sutter, or with Terry Murray? No way. That’s not coming from thin air. That’s Sutter’s doing. He deserves credit, and the coaching award.
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain,
I am just pointing out that Hitch is probably getting the nod because he turned around a team that was going nowhere with really no big names/talent and made it as the 2nd seed. That’s worth consideration, I think.
And I’m not minimizing what Sutter did because he did the ultimate in getting this team to win the Cup. But your original point about not understanding why Hitch is getting so much attention is what I was answering. Not that he deserves to win it. The award isn’t for the coach that wins the Cup or who wins head-to-head.
And I agree that Sutter should have been in the mix for the award.
Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@TheAnteriorCruciateStrain,
When are the nominations submitted, before or after playoffs?
vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
@Duncanz,
“The Jack Adams Award is an annual award presented by the National Hockey League Broadcasters’ Association to the NHL coach adjudged to have contributed the most to his team’s success. The winner is selected in a poll among members of the NHL Broadcasters’ Association at the end of the regular season.”
Sounds like before playoffs.
Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
@vplaz’
Regular season?
Hitch, hands down.
Quick should have been nominated for the Hart trophy instead of Lundqvist. East Coast bias at its finest.
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The Inner Beauty Award for the team with the worst arena that weirdly has fantastic hockey sightlines: The Islanders at Nassau Coliseum
Most annoying roadfans award: Tie! Vancouver Canucks & San Jose fans
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
@& Bakes,
LOL.
Even ‘Our Great League Leader’, my Uncle Gary, astonishingly admitted as much on his (don’t miss him, each) Wednesday show on NHL Live, recently.
And if HE says it, you can close the book on it!
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bmova Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
@Shakes, No, it has to Canucks fans.
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Heidi is looking Pre-tay cute on the red carpet..
Kings fans all over..
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@SVELTEY,
I’m quite partial to the drapes, too.
(it’s dark in Vegas – what timezone are they in?)
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
@SLIM,
she really is gorgeous….
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
@the boys, I think I’d prefer K.Tappen, myself…
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@Stuart,
see below…
i agree….
Lake Forest Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
@Stuart, Tappen > heidi
Pili Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
@SLIM, The interviews she did were perhaps the only down points of the parade & rally, in my humble opinion. She is very attractive, but her questions were very predictable and more than once let her personal opinions sway the conversation.
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zulov Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
@SLIM, Love having Heidi back, even if its just to bask in the shine of the Stanley Cup and then on to greener pastures.
She so pweetee…
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It’s a travesty of a sham of a mockery that no one from the New York Metropolitan Area was nominated for the Norris or Selke trophies. Are you telling me that none of the Rangers, Devils or Islanders play defense? I mean, they could find a nominee from there for everything else, but not for good defensive players? Something’s not right.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@Kenny44,
Quite right Mr @Kenneth Forty Four!
Proving of course that, when it comes to these obviously miscalculated categories, that evil “WCB” has reared it’s ugly, ugly head yet again!
Aren’t there any ECers on those directionless nominee selection panels anymore??!!!
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
@Duncanz,
To avoid any further appearance of impropriety, the League should just designate Colin Campbell to choose the winners.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
@Kingy44,,
Since he already likes us – he awarded us the Campbell Bowl, right? – I officially deem this “a fine idea”!
Kind of annoyed that Melrose just used an argument for Lundqvist that “he went in every game knowing he couldn’t allow 3 goals or it would be over for the Rangers.”
Quick was lucky if he won a game letting in one goal.
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@FiG17,
It’s a 32 league!
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@Kenny44,
And it ain’t baseball.
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I can understand why the Kings players are rarely nominated for major awards up until this season. I think it took a Stanley Cup run to join the club of ‘real hockey teams’ — So we can expect Kopitar-Selke and Quick-Vezina next year if they repeat their performances from this year.
But, I’d also expect Lundqvist to take it this year.
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Sorry @SVELTEY, upon further examination, ‘The Queen of the NHL’, Kathryn Tappen takes the cake today, done up to the nines like she is.
There might be catfights behind the er, drapes, but KT would be much too sophisticated to get involved in the gutter like that.
Meanwhile, what the heck is Weekesy wearing? Just as well the Awards aren’t located in Honolulu, this year.
And Barry has a penchant for light colored suits, I’ve noticed.
Must be a hassle tyring to keep them clean with all the cigar ash that must constantly be landing on them.
HEY! Any news on DD, while I’m at it??
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@Duncanz,
hehe….see below….
totally agree with yr take on tappen….
it might not be the best shirt to wear at the event, but i like kevin’s shirt nonetheless…
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@Duncanz, I just commented that I’d take a ‘Tappen over Androol…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
@Stuart,
If Heidi married Dwayne Johnson, can you imagine the endless fun the entertainment tabloids could have, a la “Brangelina”, “Tomkat”, etc?!
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i really like kevin weekes shirt….
kathryn tappen looks tappab….ooops….(!)…seriously, very beautiful in that dress…
heidi is..well… heidi…brains and beauty…
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@sunny,
My thoughts exactly, apparently.
That was too coincidental for words.
I know I can’t type that quick on my iPhone, that’s for certain.
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
@Duncanz,
man…tappen might start getting offers from all the misogynistic mags around the world….
what….i flight to vegas is only 45 minutes….maybe we could make it in time…(!)
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@Duncanz, Don’t you use Siri? That’s the best part of the phone.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNumbskullsDaily.com),
Siriously, who dat?
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
You have the same phone as I do I think, no? An iphone4?
i’m pretty sure that was the suit barry wore that night at the ritz carlton after party that i somehow found myself attending with DUNCANZ, SAMMUCH, SURLY, SCRIBE and some other friends that don’t usually contribute to the blog….
SAMMUCH or DUNCANZ might have the pics to verify this….
barry seems to be on a four suit rotation….
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
@cloudy,
You could be right.
In my much-questioned memory, the one he had on that night was all white, but since the lighting was low, I’m not entirely certain.
Since I was on a full camera rotation, we are going to have to leave it up to @Toomuch to unsuit this little factoid.
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Go Quick Go!
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RICH….
are you in vegas to cover the event…?
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Didn’t know where else to share this with those who have not seen it yet but we just premiered the greatest L.A. Kings Stanley Cup video ever. Prepare to cry. http://wp.me/pEXFL-3CC
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
@Bobby Scribe,
i agree…
the best one i’ve seen yet…:)
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
@Bobby Scribe,
FINALLY! I’ve been waiting for his final video! Thanks!
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
@Bobby Scribe,
I’d think you’d share it anywhere but the site you hate.
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
honestly….that was going through my mind as soon as i saw the post…i just kept it to myself….
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SLIM Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
So you’re saying that S&S hate the Insiders blog?
What’s the deal? ….Enquiring minds want to know…
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
@SLIM, +1
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
@SLIM, It’s well documented. Just read the site. Or not.
CB14 Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), So true. The guy blasts Rich and his site then has the balls to come on here and make a comment to get people to go to his site. If you hate this site so much Bobby, stay off of it.
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
@Bobby Scribe,
LOL, love the comment from Sydor25 on that video! Classic!
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For those seriously doubting that there is something to the ECB, the Vezina trophy is probably the one that somehow slants towards one if there ever was one. Since 1981, there have been 2 goalies who were on what I would consider “west coast” teams to win the Vezina. Two!
Of course, with names like Roy, Hasek and Brodeur accounting for many of those years, some of it is understandable. But really? There haven’t been more goaltenders playing on the west that warranted the award? It’s just the reality that the east had the best goaltenders year in and year out?
The Jack Adams is not nearly as ECB’d, but since 1981, 5 coaches from the west won. Five! Are the coaches in the east really that much better than the west?
Obviously (channeling my best Boedkoviously) this isn’t final proof that an ECB exists. But how in the name of Mergatroid do you only see two goalies and five coaches win the top awards in the last 30 years or so?
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Bob Bobson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
@vplaza, Roy played a significant number of years in COL, winning a Cup there as well and still did not win. His GAA was constantly lower and lower each year.
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Bob Bobson Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@Bob Bobson, Well I should specify he did not win during his tenure in COL.
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Mars Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
@vplaza, I don’t get the whole ECB, it’s an award for the best, not a runner up nor consolation prize.
The kings winning the Cup should help. The west will have to be taken seriously, especially in a tight conference.
And as for the Cup ratings being low, don’t start at 5pm PST when people are driving or working!
Same for the awards. Same for the draft.
You can split the time difference. Duh! Pimpslaps bettman!
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
@Mars,
I understand that these awards are for the best. But is it really true that in the past 30 years, only two goalies and five coaches from the west have been the best in their fields? Did the east really have the best talent and coaches during that time?
Maybe there’s an argument that yes, absolutely, the east had the best. But I don’t buy that.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@vplaza,
Well now, are you talking about East vs West as in the Conferences or the coasts, because as you so eloquently made out above, there are only 7 clubs that can even vaguely be termed “West Coast”, anyway?
If you ask me this whole imaginary E vs W deal is of little pertinence – a red herring.
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
@Duncanz,
I’m talking about coast and not conference because there have been winners from Chicago and St. Louis, who I don’t characterize as west coast teams.
And I don’t easily buy into the notion that GMs give all teams and all players the same attention. Realistically, GMs will see certain teams more, either in person or on TV. The other teams, they hear about or watch the highlights or read up on.
To me, it’s a natural thing to favor what you’ve seen and experienced versus what you’ve just caught glimpses of or read about or talked to someone about.
But, I suppose if we just say that “hey, most of the teams are east coast teams anyway, so naturally, most of the talent will be on the east”, then I maybe it is much ado about nothing.
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again….
i think henrik wins based upon his body of work over the years…even though the gm’s vote on this award and usually keep their votes pertaining to the season just completed, even they will have a hard time not being influenced by this…
this might be the closest vote since the 2000 presidential election…
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@variable,
Any chance the hanging chads can be recounted?
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@vplaza,
if it comes down to that, it will be our politicians who will decide who wins…:)
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i guess the only drawBACK to tonight’s festivities is that we have to endure nickleback…
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SLIM Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
@variable,
At least better than last years choice….
Should it have been 5 for Fighting?
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@SLIM,
Coldplay? (I know, I know, not Canadian)
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SLIM Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
@vplaza,
Coldplay actually means hockey..
Think about it Cold Play…You see?
vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
@SLIM,
Doesn’t Gagne play bass for them? I heard he may get his name on the Cup.
When is the season opener?
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Sebastian Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@pr0cess, schedule comes out tomorrow…its all pending a new CBA of course.
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pr0cess Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
@Sebastian, thanks! i just need to make plan for season opener
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Sebastian Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
@pr0cess, ha, we ALL do, i think tickets for the home opener will be as hard to come by as the tickets for the Finals were for us non season ticket holders.
pr0cess Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@Sebastian, Sigh ya… But will see i guess…
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I’d tap one an drool over the other…
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Stuart Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
@SLIM, sleestack both of them! but KT first!
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My questions are this.
Will any player acknowledge the KINGS as Stanley Cup Champions tonight? and
How many teams while making their first selection in the draft will NOT
acknowledge the KINGS as Stanley Cup Champions?
Bonus points will apply.
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Have you seen this ? pretty silly…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHZ4KB2OIXQ
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
@SLIM,
oh…that adam….
not a huge fan of his, but i’m glad he represented…(i think)…:)
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Off topic: does anyone have the presale code for Frozen Fury or the game in Ontario?
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The jmsalsa videos were definitely AWESOME (borrowing from DS’s vocabulary). But this one is a good one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi8X8_J08bM
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
@vplaza,
very well edited…(!)
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SLIM Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
@vplaza,
Coldplay? and Kings…great combo…
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vplaza Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
@SLIM,
Yeah, thought it was pretty appropriate.
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well i hope i have enough money for home opener! Dont know….I wanted to go to any Playoffs game but they were way too much for me…
So i hope its not that high
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
@KingsFanFTW, my dad waited 32 years and i only waited 11 years….
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He Freakin better! If he doesn’t the whole thing’s rigged.
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Dustin Brown and Shane Doan are both up for the Messier Leadership Award. Regardless of what you think of the award, it will be interesting to see if Doan still has a grudge against Brown and tries to yell at him.
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variable Reply:
June 20th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
@Bob Bobson,
nah….
the gloves are off tonight….
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Who the heck voted for Rinne? I know it’s only 2 votes, but come on. It’s gonna be either Quick or Lundqvist.
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That was bull… chin up Quickie, you got the only trophy that really matters, The Cup.
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Quick got ripped off. If this were like a car it’s like the GMs stole his wheels, doors, radio, speakers, side mirrors, any chrome and left the car on blocks.
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