Unfortunately, this will sound like chastising — and, even worse, chastising with hindsight — but perhaps now fans and media types can take a deep breath and stop talking about the Kings’ “record-setting’’ run, about championship parade routes and whose name will be on the Stanley Cup. The NHL didn’t change its postseason rules this week. It still takes four wins, not three, to win the Stanley Cup, and three wins don’t guarantee a fourth. Those who were printing invitations to the coronation over the past couple days must have quickly forgotten the first two games of this series, the games in which the New Jersey Devils played the Kings even for three periods each time, and were one decent break away from winning each game. That’s why Darryl Sutter scoffed and brayed last night when asked about the Kings’ difficulty in completing a sweep. It’s sort of like asking a basketball player about missing three out of four midcourt shots. Dustin Penner put it perfectly when he said, “It’s a good lesson for us. And a good lesson for the media and the fans because everybody, I think, was maybe putting the cart (in front) of the horse, to an extent.’’
The series goes on, and the Devils have life. Some of the talk now, most likely, will be about how the Kings are perfect on the road. That, again, misses the point. It’s about effectiveness on the ice, not statistics or history, and if the Kings don’t outscore the Devils over 60 minutes (or more) one more time, they won’t win the Cup. That said, the Kings didn’t do a bad job in Game 4. In total, they generated better scoring opportunities than the Devils did, and they easily could have scored three or four goals. The Kings were also very sloppy in some areas of their game, and will need to get tighter at both ends of the ice. The bottom line remains the same, though: the Kings need to win one more game. What was the key aspect of the Devils’ 3-1 victory over the Kings in Game 4? I present three options at the link below, and you can vote for your choice…
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For those who enjoy the traditional game recap, it can be found by clicking here.
I voted other. Haven’t see the stats, was at the game last night and did not see physical game at all, was there even any hits? The Kings and the Devil both danced all night forgetting they need to take it to each other….not one player stood out last night, maybe Doughty with his goal and Quick with a few good saves early on, but not one shining star last night….don’t like when the Kings play too careful, always results in a boring game
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RobSD Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:50 am
@Kingsfanforlife,
I was there and there was NO hitting. They weren’t finishing checks and looked very timid. Last game we double them up in hits. Devils weren’t doing anything and not hitting. Very disheartening because if we had taken the body like the first few games, we would have wrapped it up. With a team as big as we have, they MUST HIT everything. We missed prime chances. I love Lewis and think he is a great roll player but man that guy has no scoring ability. Clement clement hands of cement. Gange had a chance to be Kirk Gibson and choked twice. I’m just a little disappointed still. Tickets were more than I make in a month. Disappointing to pay that much and see the team not play like they have been. Voynov is awesome but again looked shaky and was literally standing still when their second goal went it.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:53 am
@RobSD,
+1
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deepsea_drumz Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@DesertKing, The Kings have had a heck of a run. No team is going to play big every night. Only, last night was the night they needed to be big….and they let the Devils have a win. I see a very focused Kings team on Saturday night. I predicted before this series the Kings will hoist the cup ….in New Jersey. Kings will shut down New Jersey this Saturday.
Crown Royal Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:50 am
@RobSD,
Agree about Lewis but Gagne didn’t have a clean breakaway.
I also agree Voynov was shaky but Mitchell played worse. Twice last night WM got Voynov in trouble with his poor passes, plus the stupid penalty at the end.
The Kings need more out of JM who reapeatedly loses the puck off his stick or gets beat to pucks in the open ice. He’s holding Kopi and that line back.
Penner needed to do more with the chances he had last night. Carter was the Kings best player in game 4.
Wouldn’t mind to see DS change the lines a bit for game 5. Switch Nolan and Williams. Move Gagne up to play with Richards and Carter-so much speed and scoring ability there, and move Penner down to play with Frazier and Williams. I’m sure that won’t happen but Kopi’s line needs to play more in the O zone and Gagne would make Richard’s line more dangerous.
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cromartee Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:56 am
@Crown Royal,
You’re right – “I’m sure that [all of what you wrote] won’t happen”
jonsey Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:52 am
@Kingsfanforlife, It was the sloppy breakouts. They also panicked and ran away from the play rather than dictated it. Not a bad game overall, but not a win.
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RobSD Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:18 am
@jonsey,
I hate how the price of tickets keep the real fans from going. Talked to so many people who were not even Kings fans. Guy behind me in game one said, “this is a sport I could really get into”. I wanted to slap him.
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Klong Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@RobSD,
Exactly. Even at 500 a pop like they originally were on stub hub is just too damn much.
pautna Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:55 am
@RobSD, Agreed. I’ve been thinking the same thing. Having followed this team for almost 40 years, it’s disheartening that I can’t afford a ticket. I went to game 3 only because I have a great boss who bought me a ticket because he knows what a freak I am about this team!
deepsea_drumz Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@RobSD, It’s a business. I can get just as excited watching it on tv. No game in the world is worth these playoff prices.
PRMan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:26 am
@Kingsfanforlife, Doughty, Penner and Gagne showed up last night. Everyone else was a no-show.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:31 am
@Kingsfanforlife, That’s the Devil’s standard game, and against most teams, it’s probably a 65% proposition for them. I see it as a 50/50 proposition between them and the Kings, meaning it’s not gonna work, long term.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:36 am
@Kingsfanforlife, Enough with 12 in the lineup for fourth line. That is not his place on this team. He is a top 6 forward and right now there is no room for him up there. Put 13 back in the lineup. He played the entire season and is only out because he got injured in game 1 of the playoffs. They have won all 3 games he has played in this post season and he lead the team in scoring last season. He will add physical play to the fourth line. That line has provided no spark the past 3 games. The team needs them banging bodies and getting the entire team pumped up.
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Blurker Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:49 am
@yetiman_oc, Clifford scored last year because he had a bigger role to play. Kopitar was out, Williams was about 50%. He doesn’t NEED to play this year because the team is twice as talented.
Gagne had most of the scoring chances last night. The biggest difference in the game was that Marty B. came up huge on 3 or 4 partial breakaways. Gagne is a scorer who adds depth, and he’s starting to get his legs under him.
Game 3 the Kings hit the crap out of everything. Last night they forgot to take the body. I feel pretty safe saying that won’t be the case on Saturday night. With, or without Clifford in the lineup.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:54 am
@Blurker, I know the Kings don’t need 13 to score this year, but was pointing out that he did last year and they haven’t lost with him in the lineup. The Kings came together when everyone was playing on the proper lines. 12 is not a 4th line player. 4th line needs to bang bodies and get the tempo up for the other lines to come in and take over. 13 is the player who can do that and should be playing, imo.
TiredOfIt Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@Kingsfanforlife, Penner stood out to me…thats the only bear
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RobSD Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:53 am
@TiredOfIt,
Penner looked good. Nobody else did. Gagne played well besides not burying key chances. I would rather have him with the puck on his stick in the slot then Richardson. I saw Cliffy on the sidewalk leaving the Marriott before game one. I said hi to him and the poor guy looked like someone ran over his dog. I wouldn’t mind seeing him get some action. He would be playing if he hadn’t gotten hurt. We need his physical play but he does have a tendency to make bad passes in our own zone.
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Duncanz Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
@RobSD, Don’t worry too much about that.
I’ve seen Big Red Dog sporting that hangdog look more than once.
It’s almost patented.
At one point, I was convinced he was still suffering lingering affects from his concussion.
Despite the fact he came in for Fraz for that one game, I’m still not convinced he’s over it.
Hang in there boys! Looks like we’re going to have to win the Stanley Cup Championship on the road.
GKG.
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deepsea_drumz Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@Letsget2boys, Yep….Just as well. Win it in front of the Devils fans……In front of Kovalchuk’s home crowd. Go KINGS!
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Right on Rich! No one could have said it better.
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Don’t want records – just want the CUP!
GO KINGS GO!
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Where is everyone gathering pre game Saturday in NJ?
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GOOD MORNING:extend the series,by clinching at NJ.and 11-0 record,the most important–save the riot at home…GKG…
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Whoever works the hardest will win the CUP. Let’s do it, my boys. Go KINGS!!
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…..too many folks, including sand sculpture guy, took too much for granted…still think Kings in six…
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Kingsfanforlife Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:57 am
@Deke’r, me too, Kings in 6, but it would be nice if the 6 was the parade!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:30 am
@Deke’r, I can’t blame the sand sculpture guy for doing a sculpture of the Stanley Cup for the finals.
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Deke'r Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:48 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, ….but having the Kings name on the same sculpture….jinx…..any hockey player will tell you….same as touching the cup prior to winning it…
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@Deke’r, Except he’s an artist, not a hockey player. I won’t even get into the greater bogus issue of a so-called “jinx.”
Rich, you are right; it is chastising, but a lot of us were guilty of doing what Penner said “putting cart before the horse.” A good reality check was what we got last night; kind of hard not to get overly emotional for fans like me after 30+ years of waiting for success and glory. Thanks for your professionalism in covering the team, and let’s hope for a win on Saturday. GKG
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Fire ME!!!
Last night was my fault for the following reasons:
1. I wore my lucky shirt, unwashed, the same one I wore for the last 3 victories. It failed (and is now in the clothes hamper with my apologies to the people in Row 8, Row 6, and Row 7, seat 6).
2. I drank a beer at the game. I usually never drink a beer, but when I do, we usually lose (but those glasses were pretty cool and I had to have one).
3. I got my expectations up, just like I did for Game #4 against the Cryotes.
4. I paid $50 for parking. I never paid $50 before.
5. I didn’t participate in the ceremonial frst puck drop. I would have been happy to stand in for the President since he felt it was more important to go to a fundraiser.
6. I had already cleared my schedule for the parade.
7. When I ate my nachos, I still had some cheese left.
So yes, you can now fire me!
In reality, it was as simple as both teams were very tentative, neither team wanted to engage, first team to make a mistake lost. These are the Stanley Cup Finals, it isn’t going to be easy, and for the Kings to win, they need to pummel the Devils and play very physically, something neither team did last night.
GKG, win it in NJ, win it here, I don’t care, just win it!!!!!
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:45 am
@DesertKing, just give me your tickets to game 6 (if need be) and all will be forgiven…
…and yes, you ARE welcome!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:51 am
@Lake Forest,
Sorry, I’m going toget a new lucky shirt, I ain’t going to drink no beer, I ain’t going to have raised expectations, I’m going earlier to find $20 parking, Obama will be campaigining somewhere else so Bob Miller can drop the puck like he should have last night, I have rescheduled my whole life and I will better manage my cheese at the next game. Thanks for the offer, and besides, there won’t be a Game #6 because the Kings are going to refocus and beat NJ on Saturday
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:50 am
@DesertKing, $50 for parking? Seriously????
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:52 am
@mrbrett7,
Other lots were $60. It was getting pretty crazy 2 hours before gametime.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:30 am
@DesertKing, That’s just downright stupid…
Zeley Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@DesertKing,
When we laughed at the price on the sign, the attendent pointed and said there was $100 parking (although I didn’t see it personally).
friarking Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:55 am
@mrbrett7, Blame E3.
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RobSD Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:53 am
@DesertKing,
Dude… Nachos sound so good. So hung over. No hitting is why we lost. Have to use the size advantage we have.
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Kingsfanforlife Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:59 am
@DesertKing, Only paid $15 for parking and saw some for $10 as I walked in….next time scope it out
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:03 am
@Kingsfanforlife,
All the $10-$30 lots were full and my truck won’t fit in those 6′-6″ structures. Hey, It’s The Cup!
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:15 am
@DesertKing, Sorry DK, I’ll take the blame,I didn’t wash and wear my lucky shirt, instead I went surfing and wore my other shirt (it was lucky once) so next time I’ll have my lucky shirt on,stupid me.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:17 am
@LVKINGS88,
Dang it, you should have known better! Go see your doctor, I think you are coming down with Komponitis
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luthco Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@DesertKing, 4 dollar parking, broadway and 12th, a hop and a skip to staples
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Best opportunity was penner’s break to marty’s stick side. Carter had some decent ops too, but overall, not enough pressure on Marty’s stick side. Hope Sutter get’s an attack strategy together which focuses traffic and firepower on the left side of the o zone. Very little goes in on his glove side and that is where we had the majority of scoring chances (which really were not) last night.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:50 am
@jess, So the two shots that went off of the post weren’t better chances?
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jess Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:13 am
@mrbrett7,
I’m not saying those weren’t quality chances, but technically a post isn’t even registered as a SOG. Every goal that Marty has given up has been on the stick side, except for the one that was trapped under his pad which the ref shoul’ve whistled down but didn’t.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@jess, I’m not saying Penner’s shot attempt wasn’t a quality scoring chance. It was…however, his wasn’t even a shot on goal as he completely missed.
Hitting the post is a sign that you beat the goaltender.
jess Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:01 am
mrbrett7
The overall meaning of my original post has been derailed by this side issue, which is to focus on marty’s stick side in game 5. Doughty’s goal was even on that side.
We need to close it out on the road. This is the 7th game of the series and there is no tomorrow.
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Kingsfanforlife Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:59 am
@wannabeking, hope the Kings see it that way too, last game, last chance
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Agree with Rich, things were taken for granted so much that some people here even posted that the Kings played badly last night just because they lost one game, in the FINAL. At least now the questions and attention will be more directed to “How do you counter what the Devils did last night?” and “How do you prevent them from getting back in the series and forcing it to seven games?” which will be much more conducive to focusing on the task at hand.
The boys have handled every challenge so far and you had to figure one would come in this series. Just back to the heavy forecheck, hope for at least even bounces, and bring it home.
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Trevor Lewis is a problem.
All right. Before you guys pile up on me, just hear me out. I’m not making up anything. I’m telling the truth and the facts below.
I just wish it wasn’t Lewis on that clear cut 2-on-1 last night. He held on to the puck too long that gave Brodeur a chance to poke check. It’s kind of amazing that every time he’s on 2-0n-1, he finds the way to screw up. In fact, he has never made the pass to the other player on 2-on-1. Show me the proof if I’m making the wrong accusation.
It wasn’t a 2-on-1 but in game 3, about 1:30 in in the first period. The play was developing just inside the blue line. Penner made the cross ice pass to the right wing. The recipient was Lewis. Richards was following the play right behind. He saw the wide open lane in front of him so he banged on the ice with his stick 4-5 times to call the puck. But Lewis ignored him and took a shot. CBC feed caught Richards’ frustration after that play.
Lewis took 103 shots in regular season and scored 3 goals. Those 3 goals he scored were not wrist or snap shots or one-timer. One with a breakaway. One with a penalty shot. One with picking up the garbage just like Greene did against STL. That means the guy could not score with 100 wrist or snap shots. And of course, scoring percentage is 2.9. Dead last among the forwards.
In this post season, he took 34 shots and scored 1 goal. That goal was wrap around, caught Luongo off guard. The scoring percentage is 2.9. Dead last among the forwards again.
This guy has amazing stone hands, and I’m not talking about the shot only but handling the pass as well. If you watch closely, he can’t handle the hard pass cleanly. If the pass was hard, the puck always bounces off his stick, and often it ends up as a turnover.
Some says Lewis is a role player. He’s a good penalty killer. He’s good at recovering the loose puck. He’s a good skater. That’s what he brings on the table. No one expects him to score the goal. Really? Well then why he is so much involved in scoring chances and screw up? In regular season, he was top 6 among the forwards as in number of shots taken. In this post season, he is also top 6 (tie with Penns/34 shots). Don’t tell me he’s shooting to create the rebound cause no one ever scored with his rebound.
If He is such a good role player, why can’t he play more supportive role? I understand the frustration that those media guys are picking up Nolan, King, Fraser, Stoll but him (maybe I saw the interview on Kings’ vision once). But that’s what his role for, right? He should not try to be a hero but support the other guys, right? Well then, I must say he’s doing very poor job so far. Is it ego? I don’t know …
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nykingfan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:04 am
@goldielocks,
I like the role Lewis plays, but in all fairness, he tried and somewhat succeeded in putting the puck under Brodeur’s stick check..it just slid wide of the open net after it went thru Brodeur.
for that matter why not blame Gagne as well? He’s a goal scorer who had a breakaway and didn’t score. Richardson could have done the same.
that’s not really fair to Gags but it is, what it is.
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goldielocks Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:14 am
@nykingfan,
I hear ya. Penner also had some breakaways. We’ve got to give Brodeur and their D credit. Brodeur knew our shooters are aiming at his stick side so he cut the angle on that side and their D forced our shooter to be outside.
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nykingfan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@goldielocks,
We hit 2 posts and had 3 breakaways…if we would have converted on 40% of those opportunities, we’d all be celebrating right now. I give the Devils D and Brodeur all the credit in the world. As much as we deserved to win the first 3 games, they deserved game 4.
We need to get in Brodeur’s face and make it uncomfortable for him down low.
Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:08 am
@goldielocks, why’d it have to be lewis??? i cringed when i saw him on the 2 on 1 he’d find a way to screw up lol
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goldielocks Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:15 am
@Kings Fan In Temecula,
Because it’s his role.
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QueenInVan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:15 am
@Kings Fan In Temecula, Yeah you kind of knew it wasn’t gonna happen. The reverse of Kopi’s breakaway.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:28 am
@goldielocks, He’s young, and he’s learning. I think people are forgetting how much inexperience there is on this team. Many of them are still learning their roles.
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JOHN SHAW Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, That’s the point-he’s young and still try to learn,look at him every hustle play.that time was his role to shoot(only 7 inches wide),it’s not easy to be A goal scorer–PLEASE give kids some chance to learn,he has his own role to do and he indeed does it well…GKG…
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:39 am
@goldielocks, ummmm stopped reading after your first question… who made the perfect pass to penner to beat Rinne when we played Nashville? Lewis did…basically a 2 on 1.
And he didnt get poked check by Broduer, he missed by less than a foot.
You’re not giving MB any credit.
(and trust me I’m not a HUGE fan of Lewis either)
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:40 am
@Lake Forest, oh and proof
http://video.predators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20112012,2,1074
having a 2 on 1 isn’t a easy goal, especially against a HOF.
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goldielocks Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:52 am
@Lake Forest,
Lewis was on the board when he made that pass (I doubt that was his intention. To me, it was more like he had no choice but throw the puck toward the net) to Penner. It wasn’t a typical 2-on-1.
Brodeur said he tried to surprise Lewis with his poke check and he succeeded. Where Lewis got the pass from Gagne was before the hush mark. He could have simply tapped in but chose to make a move.
And I’m a fan of Lewis when he plays his role but not at all when he tries to be a goal scorer.
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:00 am
@goldielocks, He’s got to take chances when he has them. I don’t think he is a problem. I think he plays his role pretty well and has been key in some very important goals….
We remember his play when we beat Vancouver in overtime right?
He was the reason we had a 2 on 1 and it wasn’t because of a crisp pass or great hands. It was because he back checked the hell out of (i forget Hammius?)….
It’s ok, no need to point fingers. I’ll glady take this run with the problems we have then having another team without these so called problems.
We are up 3-1, no need to worry yet!
goldielocks Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:24 am
@Lake Forest,
Yup. That was a great play by Lewis. Again, I’m happy when he plays his role well. It’s just a chance like clear cut 2-on-1 is hard to come by, and when he is involved, he should think of the option other than taking a shot especially when the other players are calling for the puck.
Kevco Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
@goldielocks, And he was a FIRST ROUND PICK! That, I feel was a wasted pick. Maybe someday he will score 20+ a year, but I dont see it.
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mr. Hammond – all I can say is amen brother, amen. In the words of Penner – the key was pushing the cart ahead of the horse…
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The key was the missed scoring chances (and add in there “missing the net”). Funny how the NBC homers didn’t notice that though. When the Kings won games 1 & 2 they said it was because the Devils hit a crossbar or fanned on a shot. When the Kings lost, no mention of 3 posts, multiple breakaway misses, and 20 something missed shots.
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Kingsfanforlife Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:01 am
@4tee, the wrong players had the breakaways,,,,,too bad, oh well next time
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Jack the Lad Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:38 am
@4tee, Funny, maybe I was listening to another game. But I sure heard the NBC talking heads mention the posts the Kings hit.
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the scary part is what Rich alluded to…The Devils have outplayed the Kings more then the other way around…The Kings have the lead in the series but they havent proven to be the better team….yet….The Kings need to make N.J. make adjustments…Kings need to be the more aggresive team…Jump on N.J> and dont let up..show the world that we are the best team…no doubt….Just like in Basketball where the Spurs had won 20 in a row…well they just lost 4 in a row and are out..Momento can chage at any moment…so no more talk about anything but how to win the next game…remember you dont get anything for winning 3 games..GKG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:26 am
@neil, I really don’t agree. I think three games were pretty even and could have gone either way, and the Kings were clearly better (the Devils crumbled a bit) in game three. Needing three more wins at 50/50 odds each, the Devils don’t have much of a sporting chance to win the series. That’s the way I looked at the Vancouver series and the Phoenix series, too. Both teams will continue to adjust until this is over. I don’t see “momentum” changing unless it goes to seven.
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puck73 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:29 am
@neil, Totally agree. BTW, it was good to meet you last night at Casey’s in Downtown LA !
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We lost one game.
We are 3-1.
We learn from our challenges.
We stay hungry and finish this.
We are the better team.
We are the better fans.
We Believe!!!!!!!!
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Selanne was at the game. He looked very tan. Obviously been playing a lot of golf
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:09 am
@DesertKing, dude’s got like a permanent tan
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:25 am
@DesertKing, He’s a beloved patron at the bar I’ve been going to,my buddies have been talking to him a lot, he said years ago he was almost a King but the Kings signed a guy named Valerie Bure instead, go figure!.
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Yes Kings please win on Sat so we your fans
will not have to worry about the horrible parking
conditions at downtown LA
They gave all the good lots to the media and
your fans had a terrible time of it last night
if the metro was near my home would take
it but not sorry
Yep the cup with beer best part of last night and
also seeing the all the stars faces when we
lost he he most funny
You stars should have been there like us the
die hart Fans of LA all season long as this has
been the best so far in 24 years and I have
the pictures to prove it
Go Kings Go!
We love our Kings either way!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:05 am
@Gailweb,
One of the $10 pay lots was full of LAPD cars. Lots of Crown Victorias. The LAPD officers were very nice anhd did a good job during the last 2 games.
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BTW Sutter seems to have lost his “zen” like feelings in the press conference…Hopefully the team doenst get tight if DS starts to feel the pressure.I understand the dumb questions after the game but the team looks to DS for leadership…If they see DS is tight…the team might pick up on that…Dont get mad/upset right now…Get your game in order and just win!!!!
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nykingfan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:05 am
@neil,
who is that reporter who keeps bring that whole Zen BS up?
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Rich Hammond Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:09 am
It’s not a reporter. It’s the local radio “zany guy” who shows up to press conferences wearing the team’s colors and speaks some half-intelligible language. It’s supposed to be entertaining, I’m told.
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nykingfan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:30 am
@Rich Hammond,
No way…that was the dude wearing the crown and the Kings jersey?
I saw him during one of the interviews..I was cracking up! Thanks
DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:44 am
@Rich Hammond,
You sound like Spock. Beautiful!
Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:10 am
@nykingfan, lakers press D:
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QueenInVan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:11 am
@nykingfan, It’s Vic the Brick, in the golden crown get-up. And he cracked Carter and Kopi up. Also Penner. He said they were abusing him in the Devils locker room
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@QueenInVan, Why is that guy allowed near our Kings, I can’t stand that idiot and his “feeling you” catch phrase that he OVERUSES all the time,what a putz.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:36 am
@LVKINGS88, He probably has “press credentials.” Gotta say, though, that whoever manages such stuff should probably have a dress code and a code of conduct which prohibits “obvious homing” by the “press.” I wouldn’t let him into the press areas without non-partisan clothing.
QueenInVan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:52 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?
I agree, I wouldn’t appreciate a whacky guy in a devil outfit for sure.
Hey guys,I’ve been a long time reader but rarely post. It seemed to me that we kept going for the big plays last night, trying to make long stretch passes for odd man rushes and never really got a good sustained pressure going in the O zone. I did notice that NJ was clogging up the neutral zone pretty well though and making it difficult to break out. I always feel like weren’t as physical as we have been. What do you guys think?
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Kingsfanforlife Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:04 am
@Joe35, you are right, no physical game whatsoever….wonder why? and why did DS not make that adjustment? They were trying to play finesse hockey and that’s not their game….we are the scrappy kind
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Finesse Hockey Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:20 am
@Kingsfanforlife,
Well since you seemingly called me out…
Kopi’s goal from Brown in the last game was finesse… Stick to stick.
Stoll’s winner in Vancouver was finesse.
Finesse is not pu*sy hockey. Finesse is head game hockey. Finesse is core skills hockey. You don’t see “hits” at the all-star skills day now do ya…..
Scrappy is part the overall modern big game as we have to physical as well.
We did not win the hit war last night. That will change in game 5.
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Finesse Hockey Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:21 am
@Finesse Hockey,
We Believe!!!!!!!!
Joe35 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:28 am
@Kingsfanforlife,
Yeah hopefully DS addresses that today and tomorrow. We need to all over NJ physically on Saturday and get back to our game.
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goldielocks Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:04 am
@Joe35,
I think you are spot on.
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4tee Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:09 am
@Joe35,
True. Same thing with entering their zone. How many times did we try to skate with the puck around the man at the blue line instead of dumping it in and forechecking? That caused multiple turnovers. DS won’t let them get away from their game on Saturday.
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Joe35 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:31 am
@4tee,
Yeah I think Saturday we need to get back to grinding it out in the corners and setting it up in the zone
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Help me..im worried.
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:11 am
@thrustable, help me while ur at it, i need reassurancce to keep up this brave persona
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Minnesota Kings Fan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:58 am
@thrustable,
Hang in there! It’s going to be all right.
Breathe deeply and be rational. The past has nothing to do with the present, and the present is 15-3!
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Coach Mike Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:27 am
@Minnesota Kings Fan, Sorry ….but the present is not 15-3, it is 0-0.
GKG
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I’m very “proud” of the Kings’ run, whether they win it tomorrow or they take seven games. I got the negative vibe the FIRST couple times I heard it.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Er…whether they win it Saturday or take seven games.
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The team had its chances. A couple of posts, several breakaways they didn’t finish, and they didn’t out hit NJ. They’ll re-group and come out strong on Sat. Voynov needs to pick it up and have a big bounce back game.
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Anjin Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:25 am
@BringBackKingston, no matter what anyone on that team says, most of them were planning the celebration instead of focusing on the game. Quite a few Kings players were waiting for the game to come to them instead of grinding it out and making their own luck.
The 2 players that stood out to me as having very good games were Penner and Williams and I think that’s because they both knew what it was going to take and worked their rears off to get it, unfortunately not too many others recognized that.
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After Game 4 and all those missed chances, I got a pretty good sense of how NJD felt after the first two games.
We got this. We’ll win it on the road or at home. But NJD is not going to beat the LAK four games in a row.
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Oh, and I don’t agree that the Kings were sloppy at all. They played a team whose style is to make the other team look sloppy–a lot like the Kings, only more monotonously through the forecheck.
I’m not sure who outplayed who in the first two and the fourth game…they could have gone either way, but they didn’t. They put the Devils into a big hole. The odds are astronomical, even after winning one, that they get out. It’s just the way it is. None of this is to take anything away from the Devils. Fans are going to cheer for their team–especially when it gets like it’s been. It’s the TEAM’s responsibility to take every game seriously. The fans have a right to be fans.
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I certainly wouldn’t lump ‘media’ and fans together in any kind of cart/horse analogy.
Kings fans I know all knew a loss was possible but, at the same time, wanted to enjoy the incredible moment in history that last night offered.
I don’t blame any of you for thinking the Kings would do it in 4. They found a way to astonish us time and time again this postseason so there was no reason be believe they couldn’t do it again.
The moment proved too much for our boys but we fans had many years of built up anticipation heading into that game and you all deserved to believe it would culminate in a victory here at home for the first time ever. In that regard, it was a fantastic event.
On the bright side, now we have 3 more chances to believe the same thing. It was great hanging out with many of you insiders. I say we do it again on Saturday! (but not at Casey’s)
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:21 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), yeah, I’m kinda put off by the response to the natural behavior of the fans in this situation (maybe the media could have been more professional about it–I felt that way at times between games three and four.)
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QueenInVan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:33 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), I think if game 3 were tighter than 4-0, expectations wouldn’t have been as high, and everybody kind of got wrapped up in that. Even the players a little bit – although they did say the right things, it wasn’t just another game they needed to win. I think they can take some positives from this experience that will help them win the next game.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:42 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), I agree, to tell you the truth I think that most of the players were a little nervous about winning it,maybe they did get a little ahead of themselves. I thought Penns did a good job and Carts was on the puck a lot also Gags and Scuds did a good job.There will be less pressure on the boys to win it in NJ.
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I chose “other.” Unlike in game three, the Devils didn’t wilt under adversity. When Drew Doughty scored the come-back goal, I figured they were done. I think the Kings did too. Props to them. I think their unexpected commitment was the difference in the game.
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We didn’t bury our chances and the Devils did. Let’s not make it out to be more than what it was.
We haven’t dominated games the way we did previously, but we’re playing the best team remaining in hockey. Why should we think it would be easy?
I did notice NJ on the early Kings PP were pressuring the Kings every chance they got. Nice to take a page from our book on PK.
I would like to see the Kings come out and dominate the early going of game 5 and put the Devils on their heels. I’m not sure that’s possible because neither team has dominated for any long stretches. The Devils are playing a strong forecheck and bottling up the Kings in the neutral zone. It’s time the Kings dump the pucks deep and pressure the Devils D into making mistakes.
As good as Tellander was last night, the Kings didn’t put much pressure on him and try to take advantage of the fact that he hasn’t played since january. that was evident by the fact that he was able to play almost 20 min
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I voted other as well. They choked. If they hadn’t beaten them 4-0 the previous game we could’ve agreed to all the stuff about hockey. Penner also said after one game not to long ago. “we found a way to lose while they found a way to win.”
Love these guys, this team and this city. No worries, move on. You guys have had an enormous acheivement this year. History making. Nerves was the reason. They were nervous all game wether they want to admit or not.
But pulling Quick is not a strategy. It’s a hail Mary. Mr. Sutter will I am sure say, okay playing that way won’t work. We tried the champion way. No go back to the underdog way. We win we’re down not up.. All good. One more- two more. Never, ever, never give up.
Thank you LAK’S for teaching me that this year.
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I thought there was huge gap between our forward and defence. That means they were not working as 5 man unit. How many times they scored while one guy drives to the net and opens up the space for the shooter? Offensively, gap control wasn’t there and defensively, they didn’t manage the time and space well. I believe DS is going to fix it, and we’ll see the Kings’ hockey on Saturday.
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PP Anybody? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:36 am
@goldielocks, What you said.
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Tickets in NJ for game 5, $239 Tickets for game 6 in LA, $950? What the heck?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:33 am
@Kingsfanforlife, Big novelty in a hungry town. Really, that’s one of the biggest reasons I was comfortable with the Kings in this series–the Devils have won too many times, and I don’t think the passion can really be there like it is for the Kings.
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PP Anybody? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:37 am
@Kingsfanforlife, I looked at that too, except the cheapest flights now are around $670, so it’s a push.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:45 am
@Kingsfanforlife,
You have to pay people to go to New Jersey.
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nykingfan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:50 am
@Kingsfanforlife,
You’re missing several important factors that go into that price:
-the amount of $$ your carrying in your wallet that will be lifted from you at some point during your visit to lovely Newark
-Emergency room co-payments when you’re greeted by an angry mob of gang bangers
-Auto insurance deductibles whenn you report your car stolen and /or vandalized.
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I think the early marginal penalty calls against the Kings in the last 2 games have had an effect on our physical play. The “hooking” call against Stoll last night was a complete joke. It set the tone for the game. I kept hearing NHL network and NBCSN announcers complain about the marginal call on the hit on Brown last night. The elbow call on Richards in game 3 were phantom calls that threatened to change the way they games were going to go. The 2 goalie interference calls against the Kings were jokes. The Devils have been into Quick WAY harder than the Kings into Brodeur.
The “man in the glass” coaching the Devils coach. “Knifing, Rifling, and moving it ON”, are all getting very old. I hope the Kings finish this thing on Saturday so I don’t have to listen to these announcers longer than I have to. They are supposed to be a neutral group being the “national” announcing team. I can take the local Coyotes idiots better than I can take this bunch.
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The only thing the kings did was play not to lose. Pathetic effort.
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I was there. Minimal hitting, terrible breakout passing with little speed, Dzone breakdowns, much too much time spent in our own end (lossing battles), not too good on the FOs, no bounces went our way. Desperaion was not evident.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:51 am
@crashin’da net, What i couldn’t figure out is when Penner centered two passes across the crease, where were his teammates for the easy tapins
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To me, it’s pretty simple. When this team attacks as a five man unit, it completely dominates and is unbeatable. When they hold back, and start to be passive, they lose. Last night, there was no support on the back end on attack, and why for the life of me they went for a line change with Dustin Penner breaking in with 3 something minutes left, I just don’t get. There’s a time to make sure you make safe changes, and there’s a time to push things a little. That was a moment to push it. If there was even one other man supporting the rush, we probably see a rebound goal, as it was laying right in the slot.
That being said, I’m sure they know where they missed some opportunities, and will come back and win in Jersey. Just wish they could’ve pulled it off last night, so I could witness it in person!
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On another note, hopefully some of you learned a valuble lesson about celebrating winning the cup when the team hasnt won it yet. I have never read so many sappy crybaby posts about I have been a Kings fan for 30 years, and I think I am gonna cry!
Here’s a thought, nobody cares how long I have been a fan, or how long you have! We can celebrate, and walk down memory lane when the Kings actually win it.
How does that sound?
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:41 am
@puck73, Yep, We were all caught up in it including me..Time to re-focuse and get ready for Saturday….
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:50 am
@puck73, I think people have every right to be proud of what the Kings have done thus far, even if, for some astounding reason, they don’t win it. I mean, Rich could just close down the blog until it’s settled if people are so afraid of others expressing themselves.
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Finesse Hockey Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:31 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Exactly. Well said.
Celebrate what we HAVE done and use it as fuel to get done what needs to be done.
We Believe!!!!!
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jess Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:02 am
@puck73,
Bingo.
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Baby23 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:25 am
@puck73, sounds good to me! GKG!!!
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Gailweb Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:38 am
@puck73, Sounds like your opinion
Fans have a right to vent man
Go Kings Go!
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:49 am
@puck73,
My favorite moment of the night was watching puck jump up and down like a giddy school girl after Doughty’s goal.
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nykingfan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 11:32 am
@puck73,
Sounds like a plan to me
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Got to be missed scoring chances. Despite whatever else went wrong, if they bury one or two of those, it changes the complexion of the game completely, and the Kings probably crush the Devils’ spirit.
DANG!
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Minnesota Kings Fan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:48 am
@Minnesota Kings Fan,
Also, from watching on TV, it seemed like there was little room out on the ice to get anything going. NJ had things pretty clogged up, and it worked because the Kings were not playing their best game. They’ve got to bring it in Game 5. How about a repeat of the Kings’ performance in the 1st period of Game 2 vs. St. Louis? Boy, I’ll take that!
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Some one talk me out of flying out to NJ for gm5.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@JAYC,
The Situation, Newark, orange skin, bad accents, Devils fans, Panger loves Jersey, should I continue?
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Minnesota Kings Fan Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:49 am
@JAYC,
If you have the $…
If you have the time…
If it won’t damage an important relationship…
By all means head to the airport!
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JAYC Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:01 am
@Minnesota Kings Fan,
Sort of.
Yes
And No. My GF is a die hard.
We’re looking up flights. If we can find a reasonable price then I think we’re gonna go.
We went to last nights game and we didn’t talk to each until we go home and when we did it was good nite lol. Then this morning was lets go to gm 5.
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Andros Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:03 am
@JAYC, DO EET! LOL!
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JAYC Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:10 am
@Andros, It’s looking like we might do it.
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Their awful finishing is bedeviling them once again. You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take and you don’t get lucky from 100% of shots that don’t hit the target.
Those post hitting shots would have put the game to rest and they would be champions now. NJ stepped up their faceoffs in game 4 and the Kings to step up their finishing in game 5. This is problem they’ve been having for a while though so I’m not surprised.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:48 am
@skooma, Yeah, I noticed they missed the net more than 20 times.
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I blame all the arrogant Kings fans for taking their brooms to Staples Center.
What happened to one game at a time, people?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@Andros, Yeah, the broom thing pissed me off. I was really hoping not to see any of that classless garbage.
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Lake Forest Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:52 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, I would reference it as wishful thinking not classless garbage.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 11:24 am
@Lake Forest, It’s classless garbage because it’s “in your face.” There’s no need for that. If the Kings had managed to sweep the Devils, it would have been a bit of a statistical anomaly, given how close the first two games were, unless the fourth game was a blow-out. Besides, it’s hard to imagine anyone running around with a broom in his hands yesterday has learned anything from observing Canucks fans. If they had, they’d know what the should and should not want to look like.
cromartee Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@Andros,
I missed the brooms. That ain’t good.
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luthco Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
@cromartee, did you see the dude dressed in the get up like those green dudes in vancouver, now that was uncalled for, but hey he has to live with the fact he did it, and so do those with the brooms, it’s not for anyone else to judge or call classless, do as you see fit as long as your not hurting anyone it’s just a fan being a fan, or at least i hope he’s a fan and not a bandwagoner.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
@luthco, Wrong. People will refer to “Kings fans” as “the people who brought out the brooms.” Like it or not, you’re associated to them in history. For this reason, calling them out is not only appropriate, it has a salutary effect.
Duncanz Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?
Dude, let fans be fans.
Celebrating before a game is bags of fun and not to be taken as a life mistake by others who might choose not to let their hair down in their own life..
It’s not life. it’s sport.
Different broom strokes.
Let the fans have some harmless entertainment and be fans.
No neutral watcher’s lasting opinion of this hockey club is going to be affected by a couple of silly brooms floating around the place.
Why?
Because it’s the Cup, Dude.
Btw, your point on another thread re spelling errors was a better one.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
@Duncanz, Do you like Canucks fans? Why not?
luthco Reply:
June 8th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
@luthco, solely because their nuck fans its not personal and as I stated as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone I’ll jeer your team but i’ll shake your hand afterward in the sportsmanshipi way your wrong Kenneth there’s !bsolutely nothing wrong with the broom thing I wouldn’t do it but that’s just my preference
You’re absolutely right Rich although no one is to blame. You can’t blame nobody for having fun and we can’t blame the players for being human.
For us fans, there was a lot of emotion that, for me, I wanted to complete so I could resume doing more of the other things I have to do. Strangely, last night’s game relieved me of a lot of that emotion. But I will continue to have fun to the max but it will be more “sparingly”.
I voted *other* because I thought NJ had the upperhand throughout the game and it wasn’t a good game by us. I thought we would win because we usually do.
Ours is a great team and I’m looking forward to a great game on Saturday.
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We just suck at “Game 4′s”, and since there will be no more “Game 4s”, we should be fine. We do excel at “Game 5s”, which indicates that DS has a way of refocusing the boys (aka -its a long flight in an enclosed space so he has their full attention) so we willsee a bette game fromthe Kings on Saturday.
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Just now getting over last night’s loss. I was there, and the place was ready to explode. Really thought we were going to win once we tied it. I thought the Penner breakaway was going to be the game winner, oh well.
Props to the Devils for not ‘turtling’ after the Kings tied it up.
On to Game 5, Go Kings!
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Physicality of the series:
Kings: 35, 32, 55, 33 = 155
Devils: 44, 35, 32, 43 = 154
The series is pretty even in total hits but the Kings barely won in OT in the first two games when they got out hit.
The third game they out hit the Devils by 23 and won going away 4 – 1.
Last night they got out hit again and it cost them a chance at raising the Cup. All I remember is Kings players laying all over the ice after contact. If we go after the body the Kings will win this easy. Playing passive hockey won’t win this series. Brodeur is getting more confident as the series goes into deeper water.
Winning the first 3 games only guarantees you 4 chances to win 1 game. We blew one last night, let’s not waste another chance.
Take the body!!
GO KINGS!
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KOHO Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:00 am
@KOHO, Correction: I meant Kings won game three 4 – 0.
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puck73 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:02 am
@KOHO, Great post. Thank you.
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Well, throwing the secret weapons behind Coach Deboer certainly didn’t work. He bit for a second but then kept paying attention to the game.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 10:36 am
@Drew Doughty’s Mustache, Was she from Phoenix? bad bleach job, but who was looking at that.
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I agree with this article. There were too many presumptions going in to this game. As a Kings fan since 1988, I know not to take anything for granted. As a player who won a championship after going 2-12 in the regular season and bulldozing through the playoff and winning a championship, I know anything can happen in this game. As a player whose team ran through the regular season and got ousted in the first round of the playoffs, I know anything can happen in this game. A Kings win in game 5 is of critical importance in my opinion, but that may have more to do with my own desire to stay partly sane than with the outcome of the series. GO KINGS GO!!!
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Munchrat Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
@John Coktostone, Charge it to the Underhills.
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Here to is something to ponder (or not)
I had a feeling the Devils would win this one (and this will be the only one they win) purely out of coencidance.
They were the 6th seed, playing on the 6th day of the 6th month.
666=Devils
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luthco Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@ET55, Woe to you, oh earth and sea
For the Devil sends the beast with wrath
Because he knows the time is short
Let him who hath understanding
Reckon the number of the beast
For it is a human number
Its number is six hundred and sixty six
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Munchrat Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
@ET55, Phone home!
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Other:
Post Toasties!
We were snakebit from the outset.
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agree with Rich. I even said it before the game yesterday that I wished everyone (especially the media) would stop talking about the kings winning the cup before game 4 started. i watched WAY too many videos the past few days where reporters were asking “how’s it gonna feel when you win” type questions. kind of upset me.
i’m not talking about “jinxing” or anything like that. it’s about placing unnecessary pressure on the boys. people probably won’t like me for saying this, but the “We Want the Cup” chants during the 2nd period of game 4, when the game was still 0-0, was a bit much. if we had gone up 1-0 at some point, that would have been a little more appropriate.
i feel like getting away from LA and putting all the mics/attention in front of the devils players will be exactly what we need.
anywho….that’s my rant. thanks for reading. =)
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Duncanz Reply:
June 7th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@jmsalsa,
Enjoy your rants and I really flip over your Youtube videos.l!
Omg, they’re GRRRRREAT!!!!!
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I guess you can call this place The Kings Outsider now.
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