Lombardi, on turning points

As the Kings have become a league-wide story throughout this postseason, media members have sought to identify the moment at which things “clicked’’ for the Kings. It’s an understandable query, but most come away with the understanding that there was not a single turning-point moment but perhaps a series of them, or perhaps just a slow, steady build, and some good fortune along the way. Asked about some key points of the season, Lombardi pointed to two in particular, one that might be fairly obvious and the other that was more personal and perhaps more revealing…

LOMBARDI: “I think the real test of character was, we were in Detroit and we were up 3-2 with five minutes left and we blow a 3-2 lead and don’t get a point. I was actually in Quebec, scouting the Quebec league. To me, that was a real test of their character. It’s a young group, and then they went into Chicago and won, and then we came home for a seven-game homestand and won against good teams. We almost ran the table. Those were playoff games. … We came home and we played hard. There was a lot of pressure on, and I said, `That was a big test.’ Those seven games at home were playoff games. That showed me a lot. Darryl, after we lost that game in Detroit, his demeanor was like, `No problem.’ We went to Chicago and won in a shootout.’’

LOMBARDI: “Darryl, there was one period there, after 20 games (he coached), where Darryl went in and he looked at why we weren’t scoring. It was amazing. He blamed himself. He said, `I should have seen this sooner.’ He showed me what he was going to do, on the board, and the changes he was going to make, systematically. A guy with his experience, he’s beating himself up. He’s saying, `This is my fault. It should have never got this far. We need to make this adjustment.’ I just found it amazing that he was blaming himself. That’s part of it. So much of it still comes down to the players.’’

As a follow-up, here’s a great read from the San Jose Mercury News — the city in which Lombardi and Sutter formerly worked — about their kinship. Click here to give it a read.

117 Comments

  1. Stuart says:

    just imagine when DS realizes in the offseason what the problem for the PP has been… then he’s really going to beat himself up for not firing the unnamed assistant sooner!!

    GMFKG

    FTD! and not the florists!!!

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Stuart,

    What scares me is that the unnamed assiatnt is still here, even though it is pretty obvious that DS figured this out awhile ago. Needless to say, we NEED TO WIN 4 MORE GAMES, and I believe that they will. Next season should be truly incredible also!

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    Stuart Reply:

    @DesertKing, and the one after that, too!!! Dynasty, anyone???

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    Paulhb Reply:

    @Stuart, Let’s win ONE before we even throw out the “R” word much less the “D” word….

    fuzzerson Reply:

    @DesertKing, I predict a leadership chism next year. The Brown group vs the Richards group.

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    Stuart Reply:

    @fuzzerson, John Chis(u)m?

    DesertKing Reply:

    @Stuart

    My kids hate it when I sing the “Chisum” movie theme song…..

    Stuart Reply:

    @DesertKing, that’s hilarious because I was singing it as I typed it!!!

    zulov Reply:

    @fuzzerson, Thats just jism – no leadership problem with this group.

    LA_1968 Reply:

    @DesertKing, I laugh my ass off when I see someone mention the power play. I think to myself… ‘a half inch below what I am reading, to the left, will appear “DesertKing Reply”. Never fails. hehe

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @LA_1968,

    :)

    Crown Royal Reply:

    @Stuart, Agree 100%!

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    JDBiGC Reply:

    @Stuart,

    What I don’t understand is why the outboard-handed defensemen on the power play. The Kings like to shoot from the point, but you’ve got a right-handed shot on the right side, and a left-handed shot on the left side.

    On my hockey team, I play right defense. I’m a left-handed shot. This means when the left D passes me the puck, it’s coming right at me for the one-time shot.

    All of the fans keep complaining that the Kings wait too long to shoot, but on the powerplay, watch which side the D line up and with which hand they shoot.

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    Kman Reply:

    @JDBiGC,

    Picture Willie or Slava on the right side, or DD on the left. This cannot really be addressed until the offseason, although looking around the NHL there would be some merit to your “outboard” assessment.

    Kings need quicker lateral passes and better lower rotation.

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    Steve Jensen Reply:

    @JDBiGC,

    The flip side is that the D is picking the pucks off the boards on the backhand under your scenario.

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    OneTimer Reply:

    @Steve Jensen, Exactly. I play right D and shoot righty, and I find it’s much better/easier for me in working the boards vs. the (rare) one-timer from the point.

    In the Net Reply:

    @JDBiGC, When JMFJ was here, he and Drew switched sides often on the PP to do just what you suggest. Don’t see that with Willie–of course Willie takes so long to wind up and shoot I’m not sure it would matter.

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  2. rumpa#19 says:

    I have to get two installs done ,One in palasades the other encino. Im pissed ,might have to catch nick & darrel on XM satilite radio for the drop, im POed.

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    rick Reply:

    @rumpa#19, I live in the Palisades and will cover for you. What exactly do you want me to install and where???

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    GG Reply:

    @rumpa#19, What are you install?

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  3. Kings Win, Ducks Lose says:

    I agree with DL, Rich had it pegged in this make or break post:

    http://lakingsinsider.com/2012/03/11/so-youre-saying-theres-a-chance-2/

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    Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:

    @Kings Win, Ducks Lose,

    That sports club stats thing is ridiculous. 30%? Really? It’s 30% until it isn’t. Silly, silly site.

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    LA_1968 Reply:

    @Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), That calculation, at this point in season, is based on historic home ice advantage history.. nothing else. When there are 12 teams fighting for 8 spots to get in I find it very, very useful.

    Real Odds are this…

    Kings: Bet $10, win $6.
    Devils: Bet $10, win $15

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    Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:

    @LA_1968,

    A lot of people seem to love it. Useful for betting I presume? That makes sense.

    LA_1968 Reply:

    @Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), Naah, not good for betting. It’s good for seeing what the chances are of making the playoffs when there are so many teams, so many schedules , and not to mention all the teams have different games played/remaining.

    Duncanz Reply:

    @Kings Win, Ducks Lose,

    What a difference 80 days make
    22 little wi-ins …

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    bbb7 Reply:

    @Kings Win, Ducks Lose, Amazing how almost universally negative the posts were to that thread.. except Jeff R’s. Some were clinically depressed. It just shows it’s a loooong season and you cant get too high or too low, something Sutter understands in spades.

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    Kings Win, Ducks Lose Reply:

    @bbb7, I know, that sure was crazy to read thru, wasn’t it? Looking back, my favorite post by Rich – we really were at a low point there after that devastating Detroit loss… Also funny how Dallas was in first place at the time, and not even mentioned in the race for a playoff place! That was a monumental choke by the Stars!

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  4. SMUPonies says:

    Off Topic…but looking for a watch party in Dallas, anyone know of a bar that might play the game with sound. Seems like everywhere around here is putting Basketball front and center, so was wondering if anyone knew of a good hockey bar?

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    Aaron Reply:

    @SMUPonies,
    I don’t know of a place that might be showing the game, but if you hear of a place, I’m interested. I’m a long time Kings fan living in Frisco, TX now and it’s killing me not to be home in L.A. Best of luck. Let me know if you find one.

    lakingsnake at hotmail.com (trying to avoid spam scanners).

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    Kim Reply:

    @SMUPonies,
    Where in the Dallas area are you? We’re in Frisco. They may show it at one of the Varsity Clubs in Frisco or Plano. Not sure. Frisco has so many of us California transplants there should be something around here. Or maybe at 3rd Base near the mall.

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    red49er Reply:

    @SMUPonies, stay home, spend the money on satellite television. You can make up the cost in lower alcohol costs plus you can scream as loud as you want – naked if thats what ur into.

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @red49er,

    No no no………no naked……….please! :D

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  5. Sebastian says:

    I just got a call from a Kings rep, and I WON the opportunity to buy tickets at face value to game 3 of the series! Im so happy i could cry. Sitting in 334 row 9!

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    Krusher Reply:

    @Sebastian, Very cool. Congrats! Sec 333 Row 1 here

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    pr0cess Reply:

    @Sebastian, nice! how much are they!

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    Stuart Reply:

    @pr0cess, it will only cost him his face!!! what a steal!

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    loskingpride Reply:

    @Stuart, As long as he still has his eyes to watch the game it sounds like a good deal.

    Shakes Reply:

    @Stuart, in the face! in the face! (Coming to America reference)

    red49er Reply:

    @Stuart, so long as she dude taking a new form of LSD doesn’t try to eat that face.

    Sebastian Reply:

    @pr0cess, $325 per ticket for 334 row 9. i had been looking at stub hub but it was too rich for my bank account, last week i signed up on the kings website for the opportunity to buy tickets, im stoked!

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    Stuart Reply:

    @Sebastian, OMHG!!! that’s face???

    DesertKing Reply:

    @Sebastian,

    Outstanding!!

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  6. Crown Royal says:

    Sutter has done a great job but I’m amazed that DL was amazed that the team’s coach was taking the responsibility for the team. That’s his job and RESPONSIBILITY! It was up to DS as coach to figure it out and fix it!!

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    FdoFmFull Reply:

    @Crown Royal, I doubt if TM ever had such an epiphany, or if he did, would not admit it. I think that’s why DL was shocked (pleasantly!).

    So, any thoughts on what people think that Sutter noticed and changed that casued this team to start scoring???

    GO KINGS GO!!!!!

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    Kman Reply:

    @FdoFmFull,

    Nolan, King & let Lewie rip on the 3rd line every night.

    Doughty… yer it man. We’re sinkin’ or swimmin’ with you.

    Bernier. Look, there ain’t 2 number ones here, but hang with us kid you have a huge role
    here. Not everyone realizes how these growing pains work but we got a chance
    at somethin’ special here, right ?

    Quicker. (See Bernier)

    Penner. I’m gonna skate’cha with Mikey & Carts. Think of it as an earned incentive.

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  7. Wondering how long ago it was since the Kings played in a SCF game? http://kingsnewsdaily.com/the-day-has-come/

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
    I’m guessing, just guessing mind, somewheeeere between 6,929 & 6,931 …. give or take..
    OK, now I’m gonna go check!
    8)

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  8. Tony in Denver says:

    Can someone hide Pierre McGuire in the bathroom, so we don’t have to hear him tonight? In fact, maybe Bob could stand in for Mike “waffle-board, 95-seconds-left-in-the-game, do-they-play-hockey-west-of-new-jersey” Emrick.

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    Stuart Reply:

    @Tony in Denver, I was thinking about this last night as I tossed and turned… so if everyone got their wish and Bob was under contract to do games with NBC, can you imagine how ODD it would’ve been to hear Bob calling other teams’ games???

    I’m really hoping they do that voice-over work and put it out like those SI membership deals where if you sign up you get your teams championshop run on DVD or whatever and other freebies!!! I will sign up the first time I see that commercial!

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    SMUPonies Reply:

    @Tony in Denver, we don’t get Doc tonight?

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    Sebastian Reply:

    @SMUPonies, yep…Mike “Doc” Emrick

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    nykingfan Reply:

    @Tony in Denver,
    Can we also blush him down while we’re at it?
    He’s so pretentious. His handling of the DeBoer-Tortorella shouting match should have gotten him removed from his lofty perch at ice level.
    How dare he not report what was being said between the coaches. He didn’t need for us to hear it, but he sure as heck needed to tell us what they were saying or what precipitated it.
    He forgot that his job is to inform the viewers not to be kissing up to the coaches.

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  9. MenifeeKingsFan says:

    Great story from the Mercury News; thanks for the share.
    I’ve been a Kings fan since the early 70s, and this is so thrilling to see the team accomplish so much this year. Now just win four more and bring Lord Stanley’s cup back to Los Angeles!!!! Go KINGS!

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  10. Duncanz says:

    T-minus Jake ‘The Muzzle’ Muzzin!

    GKG !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  11. blackthrone says:

    I remember that game in Detroit. Was definitely a heartbreaker at the time. Gave up two goals in under six minutes but the worst thing was that I think the go-ahead goal was on a complete defensive break-down and the defense had been SO good the whole game. I think Detroit was held under 20 shots that night.

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  12. matt george says:

    RICH

    Awesome article … thank you for the link.

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  13. DesertKing says:

    Less than 6 hours, I can’t believe this……

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  14. RobSD says:

    Tickets are going for more than the Super Bowl. Upper deck is 450-1000 bucks. That’s crazy. If anyone has decent priced tickets send me an email robertemailone@yahoo.com.

    The prices are bound to drop because I don’t think people will be paying what they are asking.

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @RobSD,

    If we win both games in NJ, they will go up even more. GKG!!!

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @RobSD,

    Prices won’t drop that much. As noted above, upper level row 9 FACE VALUE is $325 each!

    Too rich for my blood, and I take Plavix! :D

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  15. McCheese says:

    Question for the group… looking to pick up tickets for game 3, but I don’t personally know the seller. Seems legit, but not willing to plunk down that much money on “seems legit”. Anybody know how I can verify the tickets are real before buying?

    GMFKG!

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    RobSD Reply:

    @McCheese,

    I’m in the same boat. I’ve found some decent deals but I am very weary for that kind of dough. No idea how to verify they are real.

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    King Duece Reply:

    @RobSD, “If it’s to good to be true, more than likely it’s to good to be true” one way to verify its legit is have the guy walk you into staples center. If the guy really wants to sell them then he will do that. That’s pretty
    Much the only way to prove there legit. A lot
    Of people email there tickets then sell there hard tickets and make double.

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    Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:

    @McCheese,

    Tell them your concern. Ask them for their info as ‘collateral’ so to speak. Meet them at their business or home. Take a pic of their license, etc. If they’re cool, they’ll understand. If they shy away at all, then don’t do it. That’s one way.

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    RobSD Reply:

    @Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),

    That’s what I was thinking. Good advice.

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    Howe9 Reply:

    @McCheese, You don’t mention where you are getting your tickets from. If it’s the Kings website & the Ticket Exchange or Stub Hub then they are good. If it’s eBay check his feedback & what else he sells. If it is just a regular person you don’t know, then don’t do it. There will be thousands of fake tickets made.

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @McCheese,

    Staples & the FBI have sent warnings of counterfeit tix. Buyer beware!

    Paul’s advice is sound, but there is no guarantees at all. Be careful!

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    Hillsykings Reply:

    @McCheese,

    If you’re still looking for tix, my wife and I are choosing to sell our season tix for game 3 up in 300 level. I can’t walked you in the door since I won’t be there but email me ahill001@gmail.com if interested.

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  16. FiG17 says:

    Hey, did you guys know that the Kings are playing in the Stanley Cup Final today?

    I just really like saying that.

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  17. OldKingsFan says:

    How lucky are we Dink Emerick the Devils homer for our announcer. NBC sucks. I can’t believe this network. And the local LA affiliate is useless. They have had absolutely ZERO coverage of the Kings or Hockey. NHL I still can’t fathom how you signed with these schleps. Must be the NY connection. And I guess it is better than nothing Oh yah we haven’t had anything from KNBC. So we have had nothing.

    Go Kings Go

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  18. concussionman02 says:

    Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It? Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It? Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It? Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It? Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It? Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It? Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It? Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,Can’t Work, Can’t Focus,What Time Is It?

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    Gianni_B Reply:

    @concussionman02, HA HA HA !!! That’s been the story of my day since 2:45 AM this morning!

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    QueenInVan Reply:

    @Gianni_B, How about all playoffs long. It’s terrible, but also feels great. Kind of like a teenage crush, and my first date is today at five.

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    Stuart Reply:

    @QueenInVan, heck no, first date was game 1 of round 2… tonight we’re supposed to rent a room for 3 days!!! Janes Addiction style!

    Duncanz Reply:

    @Strutit,
    I’m done with Sergio…

    Stuart Reply:

    @ragdollz, you should be with us…feeling like we do…like you’d love to, but never will again…

    forget about Sergio!!

    Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:

    @concussionman02,

    Focus man!

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    DesertKing Reply:

    @Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),

    Dammit Jim, I’m a doctor, not a Stanley Cup Finalist coach!

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    Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:

    @DesertKing,

    It’s a hockey game, you green-blooded Vulcan! You shoot the puck in the net. The temperature of the ice isn’t important. What’s important is that you have a good time playing it and you win.

    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @DesertKing,

    Bones……..

    What……do you……..mean?

    DesertKing Reply:

    @Paul Armbruster and @Kingsfanone

    Very funny!

    Diego Reply:

    @concussionman02,

    I’ve discovered that watching a clock actually does slow down time.

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    elijah Reply:

    @concussionman02, awwww crap im at work!!!! i keep forgetting and getting wrapped up in the insider and nhl.com. only 4 hours to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  19. vplaza says:

    T-Minus halfway between Todd Elik and Aki Berg.

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    Stuart Reply:

    @vplaza, Haki Berger… what a bust!

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    vplaza Reply:

    @Stuart,

    More like an Ice Berg.

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    Kman Reply:

    @vplaza,

    Bonus blogging points for a Todd Elik reference…

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  20. crashin'da net says:

    Let’s shake the Devils to the core and set themm on ice to chill for a couple days. GKG!!!

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @crashin’da net,

    How bout they just crash da net?

    Know what I mean? :D

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  21. Kman says:

    That March 9 @ DET deflation then March 11 survival in 6th round of the SO absolutely was the turning point late in the season. The now well-blogged 14 remaining regular season games started with that win in Chicago. You really have to go back and look @ the improbability of it.

    Six rounds in the shootout. Kings were out-of-gas. Quicker simply would not give up. Richards nutted one. Kings fly home.

    “… let’s do some living, after we die”.

    21-4-3 since.

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    Stuart Reply:

    @Kman, and we have @Jeff_R to thank for it all!!!

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    LA_1968 Reply:

    @Stuart, Jeff_R later admitted that before his don’t panic statement was mine. So please thank me too! Haha!

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    Duncanz Reply:

    @LA_1888,
    Pat on the head, young man!
    Even gurus need to get their inspiration from somewhere!

  22. KC23 says:

    Hey puck73, I’m sure TM would of blamed himself as well. ;)

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @KC23,

    Not a chance. TM never saw anything wrong.

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  23. Moondoggie says:

    In DL & Darryl we trust….LGK, bring us home the cup….finally!!!

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  24. AlexPiw says:

    Anyone know or think, whether or not Gagne will play?

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    Mikey Reply:

    @AlexPiw, unless there are injuries to two or more forwards. Right now we have 3 players off the top of my head who are waiting for their turn. Loki, Westy and Cliff. Loki and west haven’t played for a while, so i think the order would like this:

    Cliff, Loki, West. Heaven forbid we have to call any of those players up- not because of their lack of skill, but more for the safety and health of our starting players. After Cliff, loki and west are called up, then Gags would get his shot.

    So to sum it up, no.

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    FdoFmFull Reply:

    @Mikey, Those pieces are not interchangeable. The only real trade-off if we lose a top-6 is between Lokti and Gagne and unless it’s a centerman, the likelihood is Gagne.
    Let’s hope it doesn’t happen and all the Kings stay healthy on the way to winning the Cup!

    Gagne is a very nice insurance policy to have, the coaching staff is hoping to not have to “break the glass”.

    GO KINGS GO!!!!!

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Mikey, I bet we do see Gagne playing.

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    vplaza Reply:

    @AlexPiw,

    This one is almost dead a horse as the question about the PP.

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @vplaza,

    But people keep asking it. What does that tell you?

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    vplaza Reply:

    @Kingsfanone,

    That we like beating dead animals?

    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @vplaza,

    Little baby white seals?

  25. paige says:

    I remember that Detroit game…I threw my remote control at the wall. It hasn’t been the same since.

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @paige,

    Two things……

    What’s not the same? The wall?

    Just turn the paige! :D

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    paige Reply:

    @Kingsfanone, so bad and yet I still laughed…must be giddy now that game day is finally here.

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    Crownme87 Reply:

    @paige, I was driving and turned off radio when we went up 3-2. Got home and couldn’t believe it. That was a bad night.

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  26. Bill says:

    I wonder if we re-sign Stoll or even Penner? Both are UFA’s. I think we need to re-sign Stolly as Lokti might not be ready yet. Maybe Penner might have a decent season next year.

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    Jeesus Reply:

    @Bill, Both can probably be signed for less than they cost now. Even is Stoll gets the same amount, Penner is going to get less.

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    KC23 Reply:

    @Bill, Penner yes, Stoll no imho.

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  27. Moondoggie says:

    And a great article from the San Jose Mercury News….. Thx Rich!

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  28. LuckyEleven says:

    Instead of NBC doing their “between the glass” segments tonight, I think they should do “put em on the glass” segments…wait this is Jersey we’re talking about, so the nicest rack just might be some fat guido. Never mind. This isn’t the Phoenix series. Carry on…

    Oh yeah, so glad this wait is almost over! GOOOO KINGS GOOOO!!!!

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  29. What's the frequency, Kenneth? says:

    Darryl Sutter is so amazing! Imagine if the Kings plodded along this season and didn’t fire TM and hire Sutter. It seems in that alternate reality, DL gets fired at the end of the season along with Darryl Sutter, and yet another rebuild happens. There’s a fine line between success and failure sometimes.

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  30. eskymi says:

    I was on that road trip to Nashville, Columbus, Detroit and CHicago. I can say I was not as calm as Sutter after they lost to Detroit. Had a Red Wing fan said anything I probably would have been arrested for assault. Needless to say I was highly angry. Thankfully they beat Nashville and Chicago (we’ll forget that crummy effort against Columbus).

    Let’s hope they win the Cup cause it’s been 31 years since I became a Kings fan and it’s been long enough.

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  31. billanthony says:

    A turning point for me was, if I recall correctly, Sutter’s first game as head coach at home against the Ducks. Late in a heated, physical home game Colin Fraser facewashed Getzlaf drawing blood and leaving the Duck with a comical puzzled look on his face. After a prior string of listless home games it established everything was now up for grabs, and it was all about stepping up.

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