With a straight face, Phoenix coach Dave Tippett essentially accused the Kings of embellishing penalties and benefitting from calls. In Game 3 tonight, the Coyotes were called for six penalties and the Kings were called for two penalties, but presumably Tippett hasn’t seen recent video of Mike Smith and Martin Hanzal…
TIPPETT: “They’re getting some breaks on calls, I think, and eventually that wore us down.’’
Question: What did you think of the officiating?
TIPPETT: “If I told you what I really thought, I think it would cost me a lot of money. Personally, the whole — and I’ve talked about this in a lot of meetings with Don (Maloney), our general manger — the game is turning a little dishonest, and it’s embellishment by players. Because they know. When it’s done well, it’s very hard for the referees, very hard. Because if you fall down near the boards or you drop your stick or you throw your head back, you’re putting the referee in a very tough situation. Not just our game tonight. You see it all the way through. The referees have a hard job, and it makes the game dishonest. In actual fact, to make it work in your favor, you have to do it more. You have to do it. If everybody else is going to do it, you have to do it too. We saw more than one penalty out there, for us and against us, that were called that I thought were plays that was embellishment. So it’s too bad that it has to go that way. It’s too bad that you get to this point in the season, that that gets to be a factor, but that’s reality in our game right now.’’
Darryl Sutter was asked about Tippett’s accusations.
SUTTER: “Embellishing? I didn’t see that. We didn’t complain last game. And I don’t think Dave is complaining either. There wasn’t that many power plays, so obviously we were doing something right.’’
Tippet is a sore loser….
Making lame excuses….
Refs lost them the game…
Like him..Not any more…
Take it like a man…
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McDonalds Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
@SLIM,
He’s not saying it lost them the game. I thought it was actually a pretty unbiased observation on his part. I saw us embellish twice.
Now there’s a difference between embellishment and flat-out diving. He’s not saying we dove.
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McDonalds Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
@McDonalds,
uhhh well i guess maybe he’s attributing some blame in that quote… haha
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
@McDonalds,
Guess we should be happy he didn’t Super -size it, eh?
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Nightkidz Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
@McDonalds, Makes you wonder what he was looking at in game 2 when Mike Smith did the lumber chop follow by a Kesler caliber dive…
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Lavamantis Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:07 am
@Nightkidz, Exactly. Would this guy be crying like this about embellishment if they were the ones up 3-0? It goes both ways, and has been happening since NHL day 1. Have a little class and give credit where credit is due. The best team is winning, period.
johnjuan Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
@McDonalds, Ummmm , thats exactly what he was saying.
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sandman Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:53 am
@McDonalds, exactly. Hammond got this all wrong.
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SpencerMaze Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
@SLIM, Agreed. I really expected more from him. What a joke. Does he even pay attention to his lame ass goalie going down like he’s shot if someone even breathes on him!!
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Kenny44 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
@SLIM, Once a Whaler . . .
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InTheCrease Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
He’s a wanker. Just like the rest of the clowns and cry babies in Phoenix who think they know what hockey is about. It’s a burnt out city full of burnt out jerk offs. If the NHL has any sense they will sell the club back to a Canadian city who has a fan base that can appreciate having their own club and a healthy respect for the sport. Not these pussies…
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
@InTheCrease,
Now, now… Think about all those Snow Birds
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InTheCrease Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
@Diego, Okay, I’ll calm down and reflect a bit. Thanks…
Okay, they can stay…
bmova Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
@InTheCrease, “a fan base that can appreciate having their own club and a healthy respect for the sport,”…I’m sorry but have you seen/heard the fans in Vancouver???
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Lavamantis Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:13 am
@bmova, Vancouver may be an anomaly. They are our northern neighbor’s equivalent of Raider fan. I’ve seen games in Edmonton and Calgary, and they gave us some grief, but they love their teams and respect the sport. I think everyone in North America dislikes Vancouver fan.
NMAbbott Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
@InTheCrease, I think someone needs to remind him that his team is paid by the NHL.
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Gary Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
@SLIM, Sad excuse Tippett. How many PP goals did the Kings score? But he is right that there is a problem. I saw stoll doing it early and Brown latere. Stop ir Brown and Stoll! You dont need to.and its dishonest.
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JD Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:00 am
@SLIM, Your totally right, lost all respect for Tippett, wouldn’t want him to coach the kings, he’s a bitch, has. None of the cllass Hitchcock has
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:27 am
@SLIM, Sour grapes, undoubtedly. That said, he’s right that the league has a problem with embellishment, and it’s gotten worse with the Shanaban in action. I’m pretty sure it’s a lot more obvious when you’re losing. Then again, his goaltender is one of the worst–he’s an honorary Sedin sister.
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luc20rules Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
@SLIM, I wonder how the refs will deconstruct Tippets Golf Game. Well I suppose we will see Monday Morning.
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My mouth dropped when I heard Tippet say that. Embellishing?! Pfft. Game 4 will get really ugly :/
On a side note, my brother is buying me a Doughty sweater after he saw that tackle live. What a great guy! Go Kings!
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Cruiznblue Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
@Ivan,
I dont see Tippet complaining about the high stick on VV that was NOT czlled. Funny how he is one sided on bad/missed calls.
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teki Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 4:20 am
@Cruiznblue, VV got away with a penalty soon after that non-call so i guess it evened out!
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Spidey35 Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 4:46 am
@teki, I think that’s how things usually end up, they always even out.
Stuart Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:11 am
@teki, that was exactly why he got away with that one. But had he hooked him for another heartbeat, it would’ve been called… That was NHL on-ice justice. I was just glad that hi-stick didn’t cut him because it was viscious, although accidental, still viscious!
Steven H Brown Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:43 am
@Ivan, Perfect form tackle by Doughty. I wonder if he watched CFL, or picked it up watching the NFL, since he came south?
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801_Kings Fan Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:21 am
@Steven H Brown,
He had to tackle him, Doan had him in a headlock. That’s prob why a penalty wasn’t called.
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Bitter party of one.
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InTheCrease Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
@king1jason, Good one…
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I got your embellishment right here!
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InTheCrease Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
@PARKINGS_053, Good two…
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Boo hoo Tippett, I’m ashamed of you for this whining. Kings are just a much better team than your Yotes.
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Cruiznblue Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
@taz42,
A classy coach would have come out and said simply “we just got beat by a harder/more skilled team tonight”…cause that’s what happened tonight.
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SOUR GRAPES!!!
GKG
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Wa waaa. Sad face.
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InTheCrease Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
@#1 Chief Rocka, Good three… they are outta here!
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They also made their breaks on the play.
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Tippett has tried everything to beat the Kings, but is so far unsuccessful. Perhaps blaming the officials is his version of the white flag. Sounds like a concession speech.
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InTheCrease Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
@Steve Jensen, Yeah, for posterity…
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Way to close the game out, glad they all woke up. Lets all pray for the same at 12pm Sunday….
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Maury Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
@pr0cess, I agree. They looked flat the first two periods. The third period was like the playoff Kings we now use to. Even the crowd at Staples didn’t seemed charged until the third period, then it rocked.
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Pretty sure he’s got more to worry about. Taking penalties doesn’t effect how you perform on the offense. GET OVER IT! GO KINGS GO!!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:31 am
@Adam, Well, there’ve been games where teams facing the teams have gotten themselves into big trouble by playing dirty, and those penalties hurt their offense because they spent so much time killing penalties.
If your team uses your stars on the kill, it wears them out. If your team sits your stars during the kill, they get cold. Either way, a lot of penalties hurts your offense. That said, the Kings got four more power plays than they did over the entire game. That, and they were earned. ‘Nuf said.
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JGSmall Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
@Adam, I am pretty sure the “dropping the stick” comment was aimed at the slashing penalty with 45 seconds left that nullified the pulled goalie. Because it was at the end of the game and he was interviewed soon thereafter, it was still on his mind.
I am not sure how dropping a stick when slashed across the wrists is embellishment though.
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Stuart Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
@JGSmall, it wasn’t on the wrist, it was right below his glove (still very close) and the right call would’ve been interference. Kopi hadn’t touched the puck and was engaged.
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And I used to think Tippett was a great coach. Turns out he’s a whiny little b*tch. Guess he never looks in his own end when people skate anywhere near Mike Smith.
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
@Seitz, +100 exactly!!
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McDonalds Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
@Seitz,
He’s absolutely a great coach…sure he’s complaining a bit, but he certainly brings up a valid point about embellishment–it’s a problem in this game today
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Seitz Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
@McDonalds, If it’s a problem, he needs to look in his own locker room. Glass houses, throwing stone, and all that. Pretty easy to whine about “embellishment” when you’re equally guilty and still getting the crap kicked out of you.
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McDonalds Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
@Seitz,
“We saw more than one penalty out there, for us and against us, that were called that I thought were plays that was embellishment.”
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:32 am
Exactly, McDonalds. It still came across as sour grapes, but he wasn’t trying to say only the Kings do it. That would have pissed me off.
Cry Baby Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
@McDonalds, He should have his own team look in the mirror before he calls out the opponent. The brown call did not look like embellishment nor did the first yotes penalty. However last game when king got close to smith he went flying.
You know your team is playing well when the opposing coach is talking about the officiating.
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
@Seitz,
Kings are fast learners, saw Smith in game 2.
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Someone send this guy a box of Kleenex on Sunday
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I’m so happy [‘;
I NEED SOMEONE TO HANG OUT WITH SUNDAY MORNING AT THE GAME! I’M GOING ALONE D;
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thecupinla Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
@Subby, we’ll hang out with you.. getting there super early… we’re in 206.. meet by gretzky statsue?
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pr0cess Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
@Subby, pay for a flight for me and ill come hang with you
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SDGolfer Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
@Subby, Might be there..
Puck73, Jess will you be there? LOL!!!
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PMasterTy9 Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 6:31 am
@SDGolfer, I will be there I got suite tickets!! GKG!
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Not only did Tippett miss the Smith penalty which went uncalled, he also missed the high stick to Voynov’s face. Coyotes got out played tonight – it had nothing to do with the penalty calls.
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I guess shake it off like a wet dog does not apply…wiley coyote beep beeep
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Didn’t you guys want him as coach? :p
btw is this playoff run gonna hurting TM or do you think he’s proud?
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crashin' da net Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
@Subby, He’s proud and he should be. He taught them D like no one else could. It was just time for some O, that’s all. He’s good in my book.
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
@Subby, i’d personally say its hurting him, simply cuz sutters able to do more with the same people basically, his system was terrible in my opinion, when compared to sutter, he holds you accountable, and says ur going after the guy your getting it deep, and ur not givin up on the puck!! TM would just tell them to fall back! -_-
Oooh that bugged the hell outta me, love whats sutters style
but personally i was one of those people that wanted him gone, and i’ve stuck with it
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Gmo Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
@Subby, I think he will be proud and should be . He taught a lot of our guys to be 2way players and taught them the defensive part of the game . Thanks for the foundation TM
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Lavamantis Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:19 am
@Gmo, +1. My sentiments exactly. Or, considering that sand castle in front of staples… My sediments exactly.
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Osaka Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
@Subby, I am sure he is proud and happy. He is still being paid by the Kings and is doing scouting for them back East. I am sure he is covering the NY/NJ series for the Kings to help prepare them for a finals matchup. Kings win the cup could mean a bonus for him.
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SDGolfer Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
@Subby, I was gonna post this. Guys saying DL should’ve got Tippett because he was a great coach.
But like Hitchcock before him, he is perplexed and he has no answer for the Kings.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
@Subby, Don’t know what’s going thru someone else’s head, I’m sure he (TM) has gotta be at least a little disappointed. Obviously DS has gotten much more out of these guys. Personally I don’t think it’s all that different a system. But little things can go a long way in any sport, maybe a few tweaks have made all the difference. Or maybe DS is a better motivator.
I think also while this isn’t a VERY different team than TM had it IS different…. Carter, King, Nolan and Voynov have obviously changed the chemistry from good to exceptional….
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Wow, I guess losing brings out the true colors of people.
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Brent Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
@Vplaza, Totally agree with you. +1
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If you read his comments posted he states BOTH teams embellished in the game. He specifically said the lewis delayed call that led to the king goal was embelishment.
In his post game comments he also stated the he has to admit the kings are a good team but not all of his players have raised their compete level to where it needs to be.
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Go Kings Go Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
@justlu, Did you read his lips behind the bench every time the Kings scored or had a great chance after a turn over? The camera kept cutting back to him and he mouthed the same two word phase. Anyone catch what he was saying? A simple yes will suffice, remember, no vulgarity on the blog. I think it said it all for Mr. Tippett. After the 1st period, the Kings turn on the afterburners and didn’t look back.
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@Go Kings Go, i caught it ^^
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KingsFan on EastCoastTime Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
@Go Kings Go, Yes… several times, yes.
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
@justlu,
Yeah, whatever… it’s like 99 F out there still?
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Before every game i hit my staples easy button. “That was easy”
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Go Kings Go Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
@VegasIce, That’s beautiful! I bet Staples has a run on EASY buttons if the Kings go all the way. They need to change the color from red to black and put the Kings’ emblem on top!
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
@Go Kings Go,
I’ll buy a few.
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It’s an epidemic. Langkow and Boedker also blame the refs in post-game interviews.
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NMAbbott Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
@Seitz, It’s always easier to blame someone else. Let’s them off the hook. Just like Smith blaming his teammates after Tuesday’s game. Phoenix is a broken team. When players turn against each other and one of their own cries on national television, there’s something wrong.
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801_Kings Fan Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:25 am
@Seitz,
Quality scoring chances for Yotes…2 or 3. The reason is everything is being steered to the outside. Yotes are done, stick a fork in em.
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Tippet is a pathetic, lame excuse for an NHL coach. Really, referees cost you this game? And the other two? Give me a break. Your team is a bunch of hacks who got lucky against Chicago and Nashville. Now it’s time to pay the piper. Good luck next year.
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The coach should never blame anyone but the players on the ice, he is done just like his his team. Bye, bye Tippet see ya next season. Once blame someone else for your team’s play you have given up, right? Sutter would say. Go home punk.
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Not to excuse Tippett’s whining, but look at it from his perspective. The Coyotes have been completely outmatched in the series to this point and desperately need any advantage they can scrounge up, so if complaining about the Kings’ embellishing gets them even one more power play opportunity, it would be worth it.
Of course, when the Kings have more scoring chances on the penalty kill than the Coyotes do with the power play, this strategy could easily backfire.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
@AJ, Of course another way to have more power play opportunities than the Kings would be to stop viciously slashing and boarding us. Just say’in….
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Bonvivant1 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
@AJ, Well said.
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Desperate times call for desperate measures and Tippet is emptying the tank…What else is he going to do or say? Ofcourse he is going to go after the officiating…He is lucky to have Doan and Smith for that game , but still he wants to complain?…Well, it will fall on deaf ears…no one is listening to that nonsense..not even his own team…you are done, Tippet…face it, this Kings team is just too good
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scott-77 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
@g smith86, Knowing the NHL the refs will be very hard on the yotes next just because they can.
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
@g smith86,
A fine?
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Thornhart Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 1:35 am
@g smith86,
Desperate times call for desperate measures… You mean, like complaining that someone on the other team is using an illegal stick? It will happen, just watch…
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He’s got a point though. Like when your big goaltender flies across the crease like he was hit by a big rig is embellishment, right?
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Embellishing?? Dave Tippett, meet Mike Smith
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sloppyjoe Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
@SpencerMaze, beat me to the punch ~ because I fell down before I got hit, al la Mike Smith
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
@sloppyjoe,
LOL
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Cruiznblue Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
@SpencerMaze,
haha agreed
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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I like and respect Tippett a lot from his days in LA, but he knows better. You got beat, man.
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I love Tippet but to talk about Embellishment with Mike Smith on his team ~ WOW
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So happy with the win, but I think we got a couple extra calls that could have been let go. It seemed like they were trying to make it up for the BS last game. We deserved more calls but not 5-1 imho.
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Osaka Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
@westside, I was kind of feeling that during the game but actually in hindsight I can see Phoenix was actually doing it to themselves. Morris got hit in front of the net so after the play he threw a punch and got caught, that is just stupid. Everyone knows the retaliation always gets caught. Ekman-Larsson retaliated from a clean hit. Those guys need to be in control.
The slash called at the end of the game was a bad call, Kopi had one hand on the stick.
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g smith86 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:52 pm
@Osaka, yea…they could have let that play go, but the Kings deserved that call..they were the hungrier team at that point…and all that was let go previously? Each team got what they deserved tonight
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Dan T Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
@g smith86, They should have let the ‘slash’ against Kopitar go — but the common denominator on all these plays is that it’s King with control of the puck and not a ‘Yote. Phoenix seems to always be chasing. How about Voynov’s 30 second performance behind the Coyote net with 3 minutes to play? Great stuff. Tippett is a proven coach – he’s just frustrated. Perhaps he was just trying to “embellish” his presser?
Stuart Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:21 am
@g smith86, they shouldn’t have called it a slash, it should’ve been interference. Kopi hadn’t touched the puck. He had one hand on the stick because he was reaching! He was trying to stretch to poke the poke the puck deeper. It was a penalty.
I crosscheck on DB might have been embellishment, but when you get hit across the front of your body like that it tends to knock you off-balance and fall.
The Done on Stoll was also embellishment. Sure, Stolly took a shot, but to throw your head back AND THEN fall to the ice like Glass Joe was a little much. Bet hey, the refs were going to be watching Done and he shoulda known better.
Brown did embellish the Ekman-Larsson crosscheck. It was a crosscheck or it was at least interference but Brown did embellish. Not the same as diving, an actual foul was being committed, but Brown embellish to make sure the penalty was seen and called. Off the top of my head that was the only one I can think of. Voynov and Williams weren’t embellishing when they each got hit in the face with sticks (with no penalties called on each play).
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Kenny44 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
@Osaka, And the delayed call on the King goal was definitely not embellishment. Lewis doesn’t embellish. That kid takes punishment like nobody I’ve ever seen.
Brown went down easy, but I don’t know if he was embellishing, actually. The puck was long gone, he was by his own bench and just standing straight up. It looked to me like he had just let up and was about to come off when he got shoved/ cross checked. Who knows. But the Yotes were called for only about 10% of their cross checks tonight, anyway, so Tippet hasn’t got a leg to stand on.
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Stuart Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am
@Kenny44, I’m with you here. I think the Stoll hit to the face and subsequent crash landing was a little much too…
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JGSmall Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
@Kenny44, On King’s goal, although a delayed penalty was being called, the extra attacked had not joined the play. It was still a 5 on 5 as far as the attack was concerned and a misread by the winger allowed King to cut short to the scoring position.
In other words – it doesn’t matter if that was embellished or not.
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CB14 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
@Osaka, Your last sentence illustrates why players like Brown do embellish on real penalties. If they don’t embellish them, they don’t get called.
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Tippett = hypocrite
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@MmmmYummy,
More like wanking Wanker.
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He’s just talking from the Coach’s script book. oh, and his guys “Aren’t playing to their compete level”. Man, they are trying every nasty thing they can think of and it ain’t working. We know what you really want to say so I’ll say it for you….”Kings are just too much to handle right now. Totally unsure what we can do dofferently in the next game”.
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InTheCrease Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
@crashin’ da net, Well said…
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHdZUf_-QgA
Little dive anyone?
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Kenny44 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
@josh e., And how about Doan dropping right into the Ref after he bumped into AMart?
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If the Kings had scored on one of the so called “embellished” penalties, Tippett might have a point, but they didn’t, so he doesn’t. If anything, the Kings PP opportunities disrupted their 5 on 5 play which has been much better than the PP.
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Jon G Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
@CB14, I agree. We caught breaks on a couple of the calls, but we would have won the game anyway. Phoenix had eight shots in the second and third periods combined, and I don’t recall any second or third opportunities.
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Crozitar Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
@CB14, Nailed it. I’m actually not very happy when we get a PP as our 5 on 5 is so dominate.
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Doc Allen Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
@CB14,I agree. and what a hypocrite. I had respect for Tippett and Smith and even a little for Doan before this series. No more. But who cares what they say or think? I just want to see the handshake line on Sunday. That is the only revenge that counts. The pnly pertinent fact is that the Kings are amazing!
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Diego Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
@CB14,
Great analysis. You should work for NB…, NHL Ne…, uh, make that FSW.
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Thanks Rich for posting this topic.
I was beside myself with disappointment when Tippet said those remarks tonight.
CLASSLESS REMARKS. What the H…ll is he talking about.
I truly hope the larger press picks this up and he is held accountable for his reckless comments.
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Desperate ploy by a desperate coach.
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What else is he going to say after tonight. He’s used every tool he can to get his team going. This is all he has left. I still think he’s a great coach. I imagine most coaches in his situation would say something similar. Geez, imagine what Torts would say!? (or not say)
Granted it’s not the wisest thing to say after last game with the bad call on Brown and Smith’s act on King’s penalty. I still think Smith has wandered into Luongo territory with some of his embellishment these playoffs. (see: Andrew Shaw)
That said, I would agree with Tippett’s statement about embellishment in the game today. We saw enough of that with Vancouver to last a whole season! Not to mention some of the other series not involving the Kings. I think the LA/STL series was one of the cleanest as far as not having a lot of embellishment. The Kings should get credit for being one of the teams that doesn’t go overboard with it. They do it, everyone does a little. There’s a big difference between throwing your head back when you ACTUALLY get high sticked to alert the ref vs. throwing yourself to the ice like you got shot when you are just grazed by a glove or arm. (or worse…when you don’t even get touched…cough, cough, Burrows, cough, cough)
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Osaka Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:21 pm
@Mudfish4, Scotty Bowman was one of the best coaches of all time and he would use the media the same exact way Tippett is right now.
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what a cry baby tippet is just frustration he knows nothing else can do same as nucks and blues. rags or devils will know soon enough as well. GO KINGS GO 5 more to go epic
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vindogla Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:09 am
@Mark,
This in a nutshell.
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Mike Smith has done everything in his power short of using fake blood bags to draw calls. Just ask Andrew Shaw and Dwight King.
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Adamic39 Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 11:33 am
@SoCalHoosier, Don’t forget Kopi in game 1
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Not that they needed it, but hey, thanks for the Game 4 bulletin board material Dave.
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Isn’t nice to be on the side that isn’t complaining for a change?
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Did any of these penalties lead to a goal? NO, it was a delayed penalty, but the guys on the ice at the time were the ones who scored the goal, the Yotes are loaded with a bunch of cheap sh$t punks and this team is rotting from the head on down.Tippit has shown his true colors, he should never be talked about as a good coach and his name should never be mentioned when it comes to what he WAS to the Kings,too bad an LA Kings can’t smack him and the rest of the Yotes in the head during the handshakes, or better yet he should be fined and I mean heavily for lying on TV.
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Not only has Phoenix clutched, grabbed, tripped and slashed everything (and Everybody) in sight, they could have and should have been called for a lot more than they have.
Here’s a cold dose of reality Mr. “TRIP IT”:
* Your team is being outshot by about a 2 to 1 Margin
* We have killed EVERY penalty in this series.
* You are being thoroughly outclassed 5 ON 5.
* You were VERY VERY LUCKY to only lose 1 player for 1 game after your players disgusting display in game 2.
You are going down Sunday, and it couldn’t have happened to a classier team (sarcasm).
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
@HockeyNerd, Bravo!
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g smith86 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
@HockeyNerd, my sentiments exactly…well put, my friend
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
@HockeyNerd, Oh and I guess in game 2 we “embelished” those vicious slashes and hits, eh, Dave?
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Doc Allen Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
@HockeyNerd, Well said
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Kenny44 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
@HockeyNerd, I was just gonna say that Tippet ought to consider that in their best game of the series they got all of 19 shots. He would have done better to just pull a Torterella and looked pissed and say nothing.
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Tippet’s a whiner….. 1 more to go! GO KINGS GO!
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@Dunkz… you going to break this coach comment down, or what?
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Sour grapes Dave? I used to have more respect for you than that. I was wrong.
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Can anyone say Phill Jackson coaching for dummies.
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think the coach emblished a bit on that one?? wha whhhaaa
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Kenny44 Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
@thecupinla, Dave Tippett, aka Mr. Embellishment Pants
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I think Dave Tippet’s right to an extent. There may be more “embellishing” in today’s game than when Tippet played because the players don’t get to police each other like they used to. But players have always embellished, they just don’t have to worry about getting roughed up like they used to.
The part that bugs me is that he said the Kings get the benefit of the calls. Uh… no dude. The Kings had more power plays because they were far more disciplined in this game than your team… Duh… Sounds like a kid.
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OK,
Doan(ky) punching Stolly in the face with his hands down.
Doanky trying to headlock and punching DD
A nobody with a retaliatory two handed check to Brown with no puck in play.
Sounds like the three I can think of now WERE NOT BAD CALLS!
What was bad, not getting Smith on the slash or choking of Nolan.
S to the T to the F to the U
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King Cobra Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:08 am
@Mars,
You forgot the cross check into Williams face (not called)
High stick into Voynovs face (not called)
On and on
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i lost respect for the Coyote players in game 2 and now i’ve lost respect for Tippett after game 3.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
@Doug in Sacramento, Perfectly stated.
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Sure, there might be some embellishment such as the crosscheck on Brown towards the end of the game. But, his guys are still shooting themselves in the foot by their undisciplined play such as when the puck has already left the area that Brown is in and the Coyote’s player crosschecks him. There was no need for him to crosscheck Brown at that time other than he was PO’ed because Brown laid a good hit on him and got the puck out.
Tippet, your guys have come undone.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
@BringBackKingston, Exactly. Take away that disgusting display in game 2, and maybe he has a point. But after what happened if we get the benefit of the calls, the Coyotes brought it on themselves. People in glass houses….Pot calling Kettle….idk….where are you Jess? I need a quote
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I think anyone agreeing with Tippet tonight is missing a point about why he is NOW choosing tonights press conference to talk about a League issue. If it truly is an issue for real.
He IS implying in a vailed way that the Kings are cheating. If this truly bothers him, it can be addressed during any off season in the proper channels. His comments tonight are reckless and not fair at all the Kings. Not cool….
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McDonalds Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
@Mike since ’76,
I hear ya
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KingsRockLA Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
@Mike since ’76, Tippet is typical of ANY coach who is down 3-0 in a playoff series. Frustrated and reaching ….. GO KINGS GO!
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Frustrated comments from a man who realizes his season is over.
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I used to respect Tippett a lot. Not any more. He turned into a crybaby, just like his flea and tick infested dogs…
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http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/articles/2012/05/16/20120516surprise-bowling-alley-hosts-phoenix-coyotes-viewing-party-thursday-abrk.html
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5 Points Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
@5 Points, “Newly-opened Surprise entertainment hub, Uptown Alley, invites Phoenix Coyotes fans for an all-white viewing party Thursday.”
Interesting choice of words…
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Mars Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
@5 Points, All white as in no more players on their home ice this season.
BA
DA
BING!
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colo king fan Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:21 am
@5 Points,
Not really that interesting if you think about what state its in.
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When you get beat this bad, this is all you have to fall back on. Blame everyone else, but yourself. See how far you get with that attitude…
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
@Eldoret, Answer: 0-4
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When you’re team goes down 3-0 in the conference finals why not blame it on the refs? Lost a little respect for the guy though.
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He needs to clean up his own house before criticizing others.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
@Hawaiikingsfan, Bingo! Post of the night award!
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Nikko Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
@Hawaiikingsfan, yeps!
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Makes you wonder why he kept mouthing “eff me” every time NBC had the camera on him? What an ass
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KingsRockLA Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
@Jorgen, crazy! I noticed that as well … you don’t have to be a lip-reader with that guy!
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How many times do the Kings have to take a face wash, or poke in eyes (ask King), or a real late cross check before they fall down on purpose or move their head back? How many, Tippett? did you complain abut the embellishing call on Brown in game 2? You’re frustrated. I understand. You poor baby. Call your mother, now.
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Hey Tippett… Your tears are fogging your glass house buddy.
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Without reading all the posts before this I’m going to go out on a limb and say, ” BS Dave Tippet”. You have a lot of nerve saying that. After game 2, unlike DS I will focus on previous games and say your goal tender is a hack!!!!!!!
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Whatever dude.
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-1 or is it -2 ¸already for this Tippet…
Big Congratz on the win LA La land…
GKG!
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You know your team is doing well when the opposing coach resorts to F-bombs and whining about the refs! GO KINGS GO!
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Just got home from the game…..wow….that is the loudest I’ve ever heard a game. Great fun…what a team…what a team….now, I sit down to watch the highlights and I see Dave Tippett’s interview and I cant believe my friggin ears. Did he just say that the game is dishonest and it’s a shame that there is so much embellishment now? What did you think was going to happen after your team gooned it up the first two games and brought all this attention to themselves from the league? I have a lot of respect for Dave Tippet but this seems so out of character for him. He obviously is very dejected and expected a different outcome for his team. Still, I don’t think he needs to go down the “embellishment” road
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first time I’ve felt the need to reply. the kings need to stop the flopping. it’s the first game they’ve done it, I don’t like it.
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King Cobra Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:02 am
@deuk,
The only thing flopping is the Coyotes feeble attempt to stop the Kings Juggernaut!!
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fsd1 Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:26 am
@deuk, Watch the game again
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WAAAAA! Were getting our comuppence for our cheap shots. We can’t keep up with those darn Kings!
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Poor loser! You’re getting out coached and your team is getting out worked so let’s blame the ref’s??? Look in the mirror loser! your team only played 20 minutes of hockey thats not good enough.
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Osaka Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
@TA, He doesn’t believe it, he knows what he is doing.
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were you even at the game? the coyotes were lucky they weren’t in the box the whole time……….
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Don’t take it personal that Tippett is try to play the media to his advantage like this, he is going to go down swinging. It is desperation time so this is the last resort. Trying to set a seed in order to maybe get a call next game. If nothing else he shows his players he is fighting with them, us against the world. Scotty Bowman who everyone recognizes as one of the best ever would have been screaming poor us after the first game.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:06 am
@Osaka, He can play the media all he wants. The difference is WE are playing the puck and a dirty classless team. Which approach is working better?
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Osaka Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:22 am
@HockeyNerd, Huh? I am a Kings fan and I am trilled they are about to sweep Phoenix!!!! I totally understand Tippetts comments and think he is pretty smart for saying them. He just took the whole conversation of his team being down 0-3 and put all the talk about him. Pretty selfless to take all the negative attention away from his players.
I am baffled that any Kings fan would be upset or care one bit what he says, Kings are up 3-0.
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HockeyNerd Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:08 am
@Osaka, Incidentally, if he wants calls to go “his way”, he could tell his players to stop boarding and slashing. Just sayin’…..
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Osaka Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:18 am
@HockeyNerd, When your getting dominated in every aspect of the game it is hard not to take penalties, It happened with Vancouver and St. Louis also.
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dude does not want to give us credit. Tonight he said we embellishing. What a nut. go ahead believe whatever you want to believe Tip. Did u not see the 2 high sticks that weren’t called??
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I do have to agree somewhat with Tippett. There were 2 penalties that would have been tough for me to see if it had been on LA instead of PHX. The cross-checking call on Ekman-Larsson looked like Brown went down too easily and Vrbata’s slashing Kopitar’s slick out of his hands. Although it did take away a potential scoring oppertunity, I wouldn’t like to see that called against LA.
However, just before the Ekman-Larsson penalty, PHX should have gotten a high-sticking call after Voynov got hit in the face with a stick.
Overall I think the calls have been about even. In game 1 I thought they favored PHX, and why not? What else is home ice for? But I see Tippett’s point with 2 of PHX’s penalties.
GKG! 5 more!
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fsd1 Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:30 am
@Scott, well, you answered it yourself, crosscheck on brown, doesnt matter if he went down or not, and the rules state if you slash the stick out of someones hands it is a penalty, not a thing about whether it was held with one hand or not
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Tips comments already confirm to me the Coyotes have already lost the emotional battle which means they are toast on Sunday.
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Was that Shane Doan I saw DD throw around like a rag doll? awesome
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boo hoo
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Tippett should be thankful that the refs didn’t catch the 5 they missed the whole game.
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I always thought Dave Tippett was a good hockey man and way better than this.. so much for that.
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I submit for the consideration of the people.. game 1.
Really Tippett? Wanna talk about breaks??
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He never said it was the kings fault for embellishing. He was just saying the game has changed. He said his players do it too. He said the league as a whole has been doing this. He’s right this is what the NHL is about now. That’s gunna happen after how the game has changed. I agree with what he says but disagree with his timing on saying it. If he had said this any other time in the regular season or any other time in the playoffs everyone would have agreed with him. But this makes him look like a sore loser. I don’t think he was a sore loser he said why they lost which was not stepping up to the next level like we have done. I though his interview was very honest but in a classy way. His quotes are taken out of context here. He wasn’t complaining. Plus Dave was an assistant I doubt he anything bad to say about the kings.
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Dave Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 2:15 am
@Jamesburton, He didn’t say positive about the Kings. He gave them no credit at all. The losses are because either his team is not playing well or the refereeing stinks. I used to respect that guy, but not after last nights post game whine session.
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Jamesburton Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 2:45 am
@Dave, It’s not his job to go out there and say good job kings you beat us. The coyotes are paying him to coach not to give credit to other teams. Hes well aware that his team is being out played he’s watching the same game we are. He like Sutter demands a lot from his players and he feels they are losing because they aren’t playing at the same level the kings are on. He’s right on the embellishing issue but that’s something he should address to him gm and have it go thru the NHL he shouldn’t have said anything. But if they NHL feels he is out of line they will fine him. But anyways this is old news I’m excited for Sunday. Go kings go! Bring your A game!
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Dave Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 4:53 am
@Jamesburton, I’m not saying he has to out there gushing about how good the Kings are playing, but any coach with class and smarts would say something like ” there is another team on the ice that is giving us fits right now and you’ve got to give them credit for that…….” He blamed everything on poor play by his guys and poor refereeing. Sometimes poor play is caused by the other team kicking your ass. His team with the exception of the first period was outplayed again. Maybe he’s just not smart enough to see that. And after game 2 he’s got a lot of nerve complaining about the calls. It’s not old new until Phoenix in done. Hopefully the series will be over Sunday and the Kings can watch the East beat up on each other for a while.
He Shoots, He Scores Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:28 am
@Jamesburton,
It’s a veiled criticism of the Kings. Contextually, he admits he’d be fined if he divulged his real opinion of the officiating, meaning he thought his team got screwed. Additionally, he mentions specific plays like Kopitar getting slashed, and Brown getting cross-checked. He’s just tip-toeing the line so he doesn’t get fined.
Being a past assistant, in my opinion doesn’t mean anything. He spent a couple years here, but that was 10 years ago and the majority of the people that were around during that time aren’t there anymore. Some people hold resentment about their past employers, some don’t, so it’s hard to speculate one way or the other.
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Stuart Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:33 am
@He Shoots, He Scores, yes! His mentioning “us” was only a subtle way to deflect his true intentions… which was “them”.
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TA Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@Jamesburton, A couple of thoughts to your post.
1) I do agree that there is too much embellishing or flooping in hockey and other sports as well.
2) However in regards to your statement about him not compaining about the Kings; he did say in his press conference last night that there were 2 plays of embellishment by the Kings in game 3.
3) Lastly, he should look no further than his own goalie. In every series during the playoffs Smith has embellsihed everytime he has be touched. Against SJ and Nashville and also against us.
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brown tends to embellish from time to time. i think he fell a bit too easy when OEL cross checked him, he didn’t need to fall it was a penalty either way. and that slashing call at the end was really lame. kopitar was extending with one hand on his stick.
other than that, good win for the kings.
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Tippett did say his team did it as well, and that he doesnt agree with that, but he is being a realist…
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Matt Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:03 am
@Jack, Then he needs to address that with his team. If he really cares about it then change starts from within. He just brought it up because he lost and was grasping at straws. Words of a frustrated coach looking for a scapegoat.
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Sutter “And I don’t think Dave is complaining either”
That is some serious Voodoo.
Stick another pin in that Tippett doll Darryl!!
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Calls go this way and calls go that way. Bottom line and something that NO ONE can argue — The Coyotes have been flat out OUTWORKED and their “have Mike Smith keep us in the game until we get a fluke goal” approach to winning has run its course. Side note — Mike Smith is a real tool and is the master of embellishment — you know the old saying, when you point fingers you have two pointing right back at you.
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Players embellish, but until Tippet reigns in Mike Smith I believe he should keep his mouth shut. I have never complained in the 31 years of being a fan of the Kings about the officials blowing games for LA. I figure it evens out. It’s a tough game to call as it’s so fast. Things happen…you shrug it off and move on. Well at least the good teams do.
Tippet is being a sore loser. This statement “In actual fact, to make it work in your favor, you have to do it more. You have to do it. If everybody else is going to do it, you have to do it too” is a clever way to deflect attention from the fact that his team has always done it just as much as anyone else. He is admitting it right out but phrasing it to make it sound like he was forced into doing it to keep things fair. This is a cheaters way of “getting away with it.” it’s classic….
I can do that at work, “well sure I come in late, but it’s because I used to come in on time and everyone else was late, so I figured it wasn’t fair that I had to work more hours.” Doesn’t matter it’s still wrong.
There are sports teams I despise and in the NHL it’s Detroit and Phoenix. Never thought Phoenix should have a hockey team….never wanted them to leave Winnipeg. Hope LA can sweep them out and send them packing. Man they can’t even sell out a playoff game….they don’t deserve a hockey team. And I don’t care about Shane Doan and the fact he’s stuck with them so long. Couldn’t care less if he wins a cup. I want to see my team win. Boy it feels good to vent.
In case you wonder about teams I hate in baseball it’s the Yankees/Red Sox…in football it’s Green Bay/New England/New Orleans…..
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Matt Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:06 am
@eskymi, Exactly, well said. It speaks volumes as a test to a true person’s character in how they handle losing. Lose like a champion Dave and save your self respect.
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He Shoots, He Scores Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am
@eskymi,
EXACTLY! Mike Smith is probably worse than Kesler, so unless Tippett is willing to accept key members of his team have used it to their advantage, then his argument is completely biased.
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It is the classic blame the officiating for our loss, old and lame Dave.
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Tippet: Show some class! You’re team has been beaten to a pulp, you’ve been out-coached, and out game-planned! You’re team put forth it’s best effort, and still lost. The Coyotes were lucky to score, as Quick should have stopped that puck. Face it, you’re team is 2nd best, and you don’t have any answers. But to resort to the “officiating” excuse, that’s just WEAK!!!
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Hilarious. Just before the end of the game I told my wife that the Yotes will try to blame the officiating for this one because they were unable or unwilling to admit that they just cannot compete with the Kings.
Nailed it!
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Kingstane9 Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 7:53 am
@RobBordson, nailed it, indeed
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Oh, c’mon Tippett. The difference between your team and ours is that we hit cleanly. We don’t pull a-hole moves in scrums like Yandle and Morris throwing punches, Doan facewashing Brown (which, that was pretty much trying to suffocate him) or cross checks to the face like Rosival on Williams. Refs missed the call when Voynov got high-sticked and Brown was called for diving in game 3 when Smith brandished his crowbar. Hanzal only got 1 game for a hit that could have paralyzed Brown, so you should consider yourself lucky with respect to calls. I wouldn’t have called the slash on Kopitar, but at that stage of the game you’ve already lost, so it’s mostly a moot point. In fact, your powerplay has been so ineffective that you’d probably want to play 5-on-5 anyway. Yeah, so take that.
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Are you serious Tippet???
PATHETIC!!!!
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When Tippet says “blah blah blah embellishing blah blah” all I hear is “But were the team owned by the league!! WE should get all the calls!!” (followed by pouty teenage angsty facial expression and folded arms)
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Disappointing comments from Tippet………. I used to think he was a class guy (except for ‘stealing Darryl Sydor)…… he loses all respect he has previously shown.
Now, he’s with the Vancouver bloggers that always blame the refs!!!!!!
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Listened to NHL Home Ice on XM radio this morning – Tippet and his players need to stop their complaining about the calls – just face it, right now the Kings are the better team.
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Hey Tippet, Don’t forget to put your tissues in your carry-on next to your tampons…..
Stop crying about the calls. Its playoffs which means go big or go home and I’m thinking that your booked on the Sunday evening flight out of LAX back to Phx via the golf course. Face it, The Kings are out playing your puppies out there. You can blame your 3 game loosing streak on your own team. Sure the refs blow a call here and there or make a call that is questionable but they do have a very tough job.Its not there fault that your team cant figure out how to overcome a fierce and relentless Kings team that is dissecting your pack piece by piece. But hey, There’s always next year…..or is there??
GO KINGS GO!!!!
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HEY TIPPET – In pro sports, the referees don’t get fired when teams don’t do well…LAME ASS COACHES LIKE YOU DO! I had some respect for you up until now, but that is out the window. I do think PHX has some great players, and MAN if they had some DECENT LEADERSHIP behind the bench they could do a lot more damage than they have now. YOTES: you guys are awesome in my book, except for DIRTBAG SHAME DOME and FARTIN HANZERO, who are a couple of glorified goons. TIPPET: YOU SUCK!!!
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Matt Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
@Rick, It’s funny because I thought Doan was a classy guy before this series. He takes some cheap shot runs WOW.
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Well Dave, you know that the refs can read too, just like us. I’m sure they appreciate that you are basically calling them idiots by the calls they are making that they see on the ice. I bet that they lost some sleep last night because you didn’t like them abd sure that they will lean in your favor Sunday just to make you “like” them. Let’s see hoe that works.
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plywood Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 11:15 am
@plywood, Rich, we really need an edit button to correct typos. Honest folks, I ain’t that dumb.
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Matt Reply:
May 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@plywood, All good. Just happens when you type too fast and then you have to add an extra post that says *and — HA HA. If you don’t add it your OCD for the mistake kills you.
I agree he is saying the refs are dumb and can’t spot a dive. Does he really think they will say yeah that’s true we need to let more shananigans go because they may be dives? That is Tippet’s wish so that he can take free shots at the Kings and score that fluke goal that has got them this far. Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean on Mike Smith and oh look lucky bounce we won the series YAY!! What a tool.
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