The only players on the ice for the Kings this morning were Kyle Clifford, Davis Drewiske, Andrei Loktionov, Jordan Nolan, Kevin Westgarth, Jonathan Bernier and Martin Jones.
Colin Fraser is in Alberta with his family, Darryl Sutter said, so it would seem unlikely that Fraser will play tomorrow, but that is not certain.
Sutter indicated that none of the Kings suffered any injuries last night that would prevent them from playing in Game 3.
We’re still awaiting word as to a possible suspension for Phoenix’s Martin Hanzal. On his Twitter account, Brendan Shanahan announced that neither Shane Doan nor Derek Morris would face supplemental discipline. Shanahan said, in regard to Doan, “(Trevor) Lewis turns just prior to the hit.” Shanahan said the on-ice kneeing call on Morris was correct but that it didn’t rise to the level of supplemental discipline.
what about smith!
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@jkking, nothing to see move along…
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PARKING_053 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@jkking, Which Smith? Billy or Mike? Actually Mike Smith’s stick-work was very reminiscent of the former Islanders (and Kings) goalie. Don’t think he’ll get a suspension, but definitely think a fine is warranted.
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rogiesbackup Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
@PARKING_053, So, because it’s happened in the past it makes it right???
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DEH Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
@PARKING_053, Ron Hextal received a 8 game suspension for a similar hit…
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NOW IMPRESSED Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@jkking, The NHL is not serious about player safety. They don’t crack down on “intent to injure” penalties unless an injury has occured. That very same slash could have taken Brown out of the remainder of the playoffs, but since it didn’t…
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longbeachyo Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
@NOW IMPRESSED, AMEN! When will the NHL stop reacting to the outcome of the play and start disciplining on intent?!?
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rogiesbackup Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
@longbeachyo, What’s the news about NEW ORLEANS SAINTS footbal??? LOL
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
@jkking, Then he’d have to admit that the diving call was crap.
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Mrhapa Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@jkking, Off topic, but was Clifford’s ice time of less than 3 minutes in game 2 a byproduct of his holding the stick penalty, conditioning or the simple fact that they were on the PP for over 15 minutes?
Any word on Fraser yet?
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
@Mrhapa, IDK w/re to KFC, but DS did not look none to pleased when that call was made. It was that look that your dad might give when he’s not mad…but disappointed, and that’s much much worse.
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spidey35 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
@Stuart, When I saw that look, I figured Clifford wouldn’t be playing much more in that game.
Mrhapa Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
@Stuart, Yeah, I think I have that look down cold with my kids too. If Fraser comes back, does he sit Clifford again?
Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
@MrHapa, if CF comes back in time for tomorrow, I bet he’s back in. If not, KFC has another shot to make amends, otherwise, much to @Harty’s dismay, it mightbe curtains for KFC on this year’s run (barring injury’s of course)…
Harty Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
@Stuart, don’t know about that, Kyle brings an element that Fraser cannot and Richardson certainly cannot, likely if Fraser comes back in time (hope all is okay with his family) Richardson sits and Clifford goes in with Nolan and Fraz.
Remember Fraser is related to Sutter, he married Sutter’s cousin I think??
Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
@Harty, I did not know that! but back to KC, how would you explain his limited TOI? If CF isn’t back KC plays tomorrow, otherwise I think he’s back in the presser. We will see…
KingsFan79 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@jkking, my thoughts exactly… i was about to say, did i just imagine that play happening where smith swung his stick like ax to wood on Brownie’s leg or is this the old Brendan-Shanahan-turn-the-other-way move.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
@KingsFan79, I understand that it’s happened before, but I really don’t see how Shanahan can let that one go. That wasn’t the usual goalie whack you see from time to time. That was what they used to call a “stick swinging incident” and since the Teddy Greene days no one has wanted to see that in hockey. Shanahan’s job requires a lot of balls and he has none. Loved him as a player, but he’s really not cut out to do what he’s doing now.
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I don’t have a Twitter account, but those that do should really hit Shanahan’s account hard with questions on Smith and that hit he gave Brown.
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KingHal Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@Keeper,
Done and done
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Mars Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
@Keeper, Done
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Blurker Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
@Keeper, No answers on that twitter feed. Simply statements.
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Andrew Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@Keeper, Done.
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Stay in Phoenix and work on your golf game Hanzal. My guess is a 2 game suspension which will hopefully end his season.
GKG
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trytodethroneus Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
@KingHal,
Give him only one game so he has to go through the handshake and look the KINGS in the eye,
especially Brown. That jerk did the same thing to Richards earlier this year.
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NCSanDiegoDrew Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@trytodethroneus, I think even players who were suspended when a series ends are allowed/supposed to shake hands at the end of the game. i saw giroux (not sure if thats how its spelled) do it when philly was eliminated when he was out with a game suspension.
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Rookie Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
@NCSanDiegoDrew,
Seems I remember Chris Chelios going to the locker room one year refusing to go through the handshake line……
Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
@Rookie, I think Ed Belfour did the same thing.
MM Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
@NCSanDiegoDrew, I thought suspended players were not allowed in the arena… or is that only the NBA?
Save, Hrudey! Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
@NCSanDiegoDrew,
Don’t think that’s a requirement.
I think that was just Giroux showing some class.
RobSD Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
@KingHal,
I read that Hanzal is the one that gave Pronger the concussion that still has him sitting and may end his career. Wouldn’t that make Hanzal a repeat offender?
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Shanahan’s poor decision not to give Doan supplemental discipline just proved to me how bias against the Kings the NHL is. What a joke this NHL Department of Player Safety is! Time for the Kings to take care of business at home. Let’s go Kings!!
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
@Cesar A, Dona is a repeat offender, with a Looooonnnnggg history of cheap dirty play. Seem that cause lewis turned its ok
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@pr0cess, That’s what bugs me. He decided to finish his check and decided to lie about it after the fact.
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DesertKing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Hellooooo, Ryan Clowe! The only thing worse than a liar is a cheater who lies.
Sean Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@pr0cess,
I don’t like some of the shady plays Doan has made against our Kings team the last few games, but the hit on Lewis does not deserve supplemental action. Lewis put Doan in that position and I think the major penalty was enough (and the goal). The Hanjob hit and Smithers axe job to our Captain is another story all together. Intent to injure should not be tolerated and both of those ‘plays’ fall into the category. Poor officiating last night and decision by the league today.
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Jon (@RinkRoyaltyJon) Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
@Sean, Retweet!
Pie Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@Sean, +1
40YearKingsFan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
@Sean, Maybe it’s an over reaction because I’m 100% Kings fan, but I think the referee that called Brown for embellishment should be removed from the playoffs. If he called nothing I could excuse him for missing it, but he saw the play and knew he HAD to call the chop, and then CHOSE to make the even up call on Brown. Inexcusable IMO.
Sebastian Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@Cesar A, I believe you are wrong, in fact i completely disagree with you. if it was doan in Lewis’ spot and he turned and put himself in a dangerous position would you feel the same way? probably not.
since lewis went from facing doan to turning and facing the boards, the onus is on him not to put himself in that situation. Doan should have let up, he didnt, he got a 5 and the rest of the game, and thats all that he should get.
no the Hanzal hit was different. Drown skates into the corner and never changes his position, never turns prior or simultaneous with the hit, so the onus is on the hitter to let up, this WILL be a suspension and rightfully so.
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Sebastian Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Sebastian, of course i have all kinds of spelling errors…obviously its Brown!
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pitty Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
@Sebastian, Agree the call was correct but he does not deserve a suspension. Turning at the last minute has been part of the criteria since the beginning of the season. Would still like to see a fine for the smith slash and for the Morris knee both were very flagrant and dangerous.
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RobSD Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@pitty,
The fines are a joke. A $2500 dollar fine to these guys is like a $25 dollar parking ticket. Means nothing. I would rather have the rest of the hockey world actually mention it and talk about how cheap it was and how classless Smith and the Yotes are. There is almost no mention of it in any articles. Out of the 4 nasty penalties I was most livid about the slash. I was worried about Brownie on the boarding, but I don’t think it was as malicious as the slash.
nykingfan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
@Sebastian,
Excellent analysis!!!!!!
we’re all Kings fans, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and be impartial in our opinions.
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Steve Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
@Sebastian, I agree. No suspension for Doan.
Hanzal should get a game. That is exactly the type of hit the NHL is supposedly trying to stop. The puck wasn’t right there. And the team had just done several dirty acts out of apparent frustration.
I think Smith should get a game. Shanahan didn’t even mention him so it would seem that Smith isn’t even on the radar. I didn’t think he would get one since there is no precedent for it. However, I do think the NHL needs to review those acts. It was egregious for several reasons:
1) Phoenix was losing.
2) Smith had just taken a puck off his head because Brown was screening him.
3) The puck was nowhere near the act.
4) The act was deliberate with intent to injure.
5) The swing was made with great force.
6) Smith aimed an a vulnerable and unprotected part of the body.
And as a side note, I think the officials owe Brown an apology. Thay would be classy.
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Blurker Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
@Steve, Find someone with time and energy and a camera and an edit system, and make your own video.
You’ve basically written a Shanaban script, just flip it around and put it on youtube.
Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@Steve, on the Hanzal&Gretel board, the puck WAS right there, DB held up from touching it so that the contact would’ve been an interference, at the least, but H&G wanted to do a Lemeiux vs. Draper part II.
Meez32 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@Steve, Let one of them take a hit to the back of the leg and see exactly how much embellishment there was. That’d be enough for me. Stay classy, Kings.
Peter Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Cesar A, I mean I’m a huge Kings fan, but that was just a series of unfortunate events. Lewis DID turn at the last second. On slow-mo, it looks like Doan has all the time in the world, and Lewis DID make the right play by turning around and protecting the puck, but he did it too late for Doan to react. Yes he deserved the 5 min + ejection cause it was boarding + blood, but a suspension for a hit that was hard to avoid given the circumstances? Please. Hanzel on the other hand…
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sandman Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@Cesar A, Can’t say I’m surprised that Doan got a pass on that. Even Daryl Sutter thought it was an unfortunate play by Lewis that put him in a vulnerable position.
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Osaka Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
@Cesar A, There is no bias except the one you have for the Kings. Every hockey pundit in North America agreed with no suspension on the Doan hit. Sutter in the press conference yesterday said he didn’t think it was dirty, he said it was a hockey play. You think the NHL Player Safety Department in a joke because they didn’t agree with you and a handful of Kings’ fans?
GKG!
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All I care about is that our boys are not hurt, thank goodness they are all ok, and thanks Rich so very much for letting us know about our boys and men.
I was so worried and now I can relax a bit thanks again for letting us know.
Go Kings Go!
Our cup run over
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hope things are OK with Fraser…must be pretty serious issue for him to leave so quickly in the middle of conference finals.
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Lake Forest Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
@Sebastian, did Rich post about the reason why?
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Sebastian Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
@Lake Forest, nope, i have not heard anywhere why, probably wont, i think its a personal thing with his family.
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SafariChecker Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
@Sebastian, Ditto that. Hope everything is okay.
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we are so in their heads…
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Lost in all of this is the only important issue: hoping that Colin Fraser and his family are OK. Don’t want or need to know what the problem is, of course…just wanting to know that all is well. These are people first, “our” players second.
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Token Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@Mel Powell, Well said!
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Bob Bobson Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
@Mel Powell, Agreed, but you obviously were not around a couple years ago when Brown’s baby was born and people were calling for his head saying he is paid to play, not care for his newborn.
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Mel Powell Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@Bob Bobson, Oh, I’ve been around since 1970 as a Kings fan. I just ignore those idiots.
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I had to work last night so I was not able to watch the game. What did Hanzal and Smith do?
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
@NealyBoy, You ever seen Conan the Barbarian? That about covers it
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Lake Forest Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@NealyBoy, watch the highlights. Hanzal completely boarded brown. Smith slashed Brown for nothing from behind.
Brown is a studd, he still got up and played after both of those HUGE penalties.
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Mel Powell Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
@NealyBoy, if he were still with us, picture John Belushi as…SAMURAI…GOALIE!
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I don’t believe Shanahan’s decision not to give Doan any supplemental discipline shows any bias. It just shows inconsistency on how players are treated. If the players don’t know what they will be punished for they will get away with whatever they can. Doan could’ve stopped once Lewis turned his back. Hanzal’s hit was dirty, no excuses on that one. Smith well I think everyone has commented on that here. Don’t worry we only have to play them 2 more times.
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XodusMatthew Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
@Hockey Jesus, I disagree. At full speed (not slowed down) Doan did not have time to change his path. While the on-ice call was correct, i agree that Lewis turned, just prior to the hit, and therefore made/placed himself in a vulnerable position.
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
@XodusMatthew, Lewis has to worry about protecting the puck, not an impending hit. Take a hit to make the play is what they always say! His play was to pull the puck in to him and shield the puck with his body!
if Lewis doesn’t turn Doan probably still gets a charging call. If Doan was playing the game the way the league (Shanny) professess they want it played, Doan would’ve skated in hard and pinned Lewis, not tried to run him through the glass into row 3.
He didn’t need to change his path, he needed to change his MIND.
He’s shooting his own team in the foot. Earlier, he took himself out of position to try and lay the body on MR and what happened? the puck squirted out of there and to Penner to Carter to the back of the twine!! He’s looking to play to intimidate rather than playing to win.
Thank you Mr. Doan. You’re an idiot and now your team is going to be eliminated!
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rogiesbackup Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
@Stuart, I agree he had a choice BEFORE the hit. He needed to PIN lewis not drive him into the boards.
Osaka Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
@XodusMatthew, I agree with you 100%. Lewis put himself in the position and he has to be expected to be hit. If I was ever against the boards I knew I was going to be hit. Most guys will put one hand on the boards to brace themselves or keep their feet in a wide stance for more support. Doan deserved a penalty but there is some responsibility put on Lewis too.
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purplereign Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
@Hockey Jesus, I never liked Doan. Too bad he’s not watching from the stands like Hanzal will be. I think the Kings are handling this properly. Stay focused on the Cup, let the other teams play their own style(diving, cheating, dirty), stay calm, and fill the other team’s net with pucks. Go Kings GO!
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Steve Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
@purplereign, I’m VERY proud of the Kings for their composure and work ethic. I think it comes from Sutter.
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purplereign Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
I never liked Doan. Too bad he’s not watching from the stands like Hanzal will be. I think the Kings are handling this properly. Stay focused on the Cup, let the other teams play their own style(diving, cheating, dirty), stay calm, and fill the other team’s net with pucks. Go Kings GO!
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Mars Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Hockey Jesus, I dont think a suspension is warranted, but a fine for sure. He both knew and one turned the other, was watching the puck, BUT Doan took the hit all the way to the ice. That was follow through that should hav ebeen lightened up on. IMO anyways.
Also if there is cause for him to say something, then there should be a fine, not like the NHL fines are big anyways, and the players fund can use it I am sure.
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Hockeyguy24 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
@Hockey Jesus,
Doan had not time to stop. As a referee myself and a coach ive noticed a bad trend among players coming up. Instead of taking the hits they turn their bodies like lewis did. Ive had discussions with USA hocmey officials about that same type of play and they all say it doesnt matyer. The onus is on the checker. Im perfectly fine with Doan recieving the penalty that he gor. I thimk someone needs to tell lewy to stop doong.that or he is going to get seriously injured. Hanzals hit deserves a suspension because he saw the numbers the whole way. Im fine with the smith call aside from brown getting a dive. Now they know they are in his head. Put two guys in fromt and make a little contact with him. Then see what happens
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I don’t believe Shanahan’s decision not to give Doan any supplemental discipline shows any bias. It just shows inconsistency on how players are treated. If the players don’t know what they will be punished for they will get away with whatever they can. Doan could’ve stopped once Lewis turned his back. Hanzal’s hit was dirty, no excuses on that one. Smith well I think everyone has commented on that here. Don’t worry we only have to play them 2 more times.
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Thats wut I’m sayin wut about the bs smith pulled
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Does this mean Quick can chop Doan’s head off but get only 2 minutes minor penalty? That’s a good trade if you ask me.
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nykingfan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
@goldielocks,
He hit him behind the knee..not anywhere near his head!
I sure as hell hope JQ doesn’t do the same thing because it gives Phoenix a PP..but don’t think for a second JQ hasn’t chopped at the legs of opponenets in or near his crease.
So has every other goalie in the NHL/AHL/ECHL/Pee wee’s/etc
It was flagarant and worthy of a penalty, but not a suspension.
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
@nykingfan, yeah, other than the fact that it happened to the man that is almost single-handedly beating them, I don’t see the uproar. It’s a hockey play, albeit a very dirty hockey play, but one that happens A LOT. It was even worse back in the day when there was only 1 ref out there.
Viscious? Yes. Suspendable? No.
But I do think Smith doesn’t get any more beneficial calls when Kings do some fly-by’s.
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trytodethroneus Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
@Stuart,
Let some high shots do the fly bys, and not just to smith.
rogiesbackup Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
@Stuart, Because something has happend A LOT doesn’t mean it is right nor is it the direction the NHL would want to go. If the roles where reversed, I’m sure an uproar would be seen from the Yotes fan. That means BOTH SIDES AGREE IT’S WRONG!!!!
Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
@rogiesbackup, never said it was right. just sayin it wasn’t a suspendable offence.
goldielocks Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
@nykingfan,
Quickie sometimes retaliates when he gets bumped. But it’s a sign of warning. The goaltender has the right to protect himself but what Smith did was an assault on the other player, intended to injure Brownie. Of course, chopping head off is just a joke. But I believe the goalie can hurt the player with his big heavy stick if he wants to, and that kind of intention must be punished accordingly.
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nykingfan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
@goldielocks,
Swinging at a player’s anles or at his knees is pretty much the same thing. Quick doesn’t give love taps when he swings at guys who come in his crease. He swings with enough force to cause an injury.
A warning would be a shove..not a swing of a goalie stick
mrbrett7 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
@nykingfan, Any intent to injure is worthy of a suspension or at the very least a fine my friend. You’re wrong here if you think Smith had any other intent in that moment but to injure Brown.
I’ve played for over 25 years. I know EXACTLY what happens in front of that net. However, any obvious intent to injure (and this was) must be met with a strict penalty from the head office, not a slap on the wrist, which is what he got.
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nykingfan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
@mrbrett7,
Anytime a goalie swings his stick at an opponent, it’s an intent to injure.
The size and weight of that stick makes it a weapon.
He could have injured Brown and if that was the case, then a suspension should be in order, but in this instance there was no serious injury and the refs did call a penalty on him (and a comedic diving penalty on Brown).
I understand the point of do we wait for injury before suspending people? In this case yes.
We’ve all seen goalies swing sticks at players ankles. With the size of the stick, breaking an ankle isn’t too much of a stretch. Do you suspend goalies because they could have broken a guys ankle? You’d have a suspension a night going on.
I’d rather save the suspensions for serious injury or swinging at a guys head.
It’s juut my opinion..doesn’t make any of us right or wrong.
nykingfan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@mrbrett7,
I would agree with you about the fine, but isn’t the max fine $2,500 in the playoffs?
that’s tip $$ to these guys so that’s not going to be a deterrent.
rogiesbackup Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
@mrbrett7, A suspension a night??? Give me a break!! Takes a couple suspension for goalies IF they’re smart to stop doing it! Just because it continues to happen does NOT make it right!!!
We ALL obviously agree it’s a wrong way to react to situation therefore, simple make a stop to it don’t over analyse it! Shanny needs to come down hard on this one for the future.
Steven H Brown Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
@nykingfan, the uproar is about the viciousness of the swing on the Slash to Brown. Yes I know that Billy smith & Ron Hextall, used to swing wooden sticks at the backs of the legs of skaters in front of their nets, neither of them was the size of Mike Smith. Brown is lucky to be walking without assistance today, and might be making an appointment for knee surgery today if things had worked out poorly, for Dustin.
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Perro Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
@goldielocks, And Doan will get a diving call so no PK. Get to it quick
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Just bought my tickets! Section PR17 – See some of you tomorrow!
Hope to watch a waterfall of goals by LA – Can’t wait for MS “get his”….
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I’m probably getting a little to ahead of myself, but should Brownie pick up the Clarence S. Campbell trophy if we win it?? What are the stats when it gets touched?? Someone look it up!
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Thank goodness all the guys are unscathed by the unsportman-like players! We have a bunch of tough guys who play the game the way it should be. They don’t stoop to the kind of BS handed out last night!
GO KINGS GO…..WE WANT THE CUP!
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Suspending Doan wouldn’t help us anyway. The player they made Captain might have a cooler head and bring his team back. Doan is done.
Suspending Smith would be great. His backup sucks. We know!
Suspending Hanzal would be good for us too since he provides a lot to that line.
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Devilmachine Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
@Steve, ha ha “Suspending Smith would be great. His backup sucks. We know!
” Yes we do!! God, remember those days?
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I found a video of the Coyotes goalie training camp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUSjtlzVFI&feature=related
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You would think the NHL would be concerned with the concerted effort of the Yotes to injure DB and get him out of the series. Penner has been screening Smith just like Brown but Smith never slashed him. Brown and Lewis happen to be the biggest energy players on our team, and Brown is killing them offensively, and those two guys end being the one’s taking significant boardings? C’mon Shanahan, open your eyes and let the Yotes know that you see what they are doing, specifically, targeting players who they want out of the series.
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They have little choice to play that way because we won’t let them play their game! They have become desperate.
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bmova Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@redlights, Their “game” is to sit back and wait for us to make a mistake; and then to capitalize on it. It only worked against Chicago and Nashville b/c Smith played on his head.
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rogiesbackup Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
@redlights, You’re missing the point. Their kind of play is what the NHL do not want as an option. Does the news about New Orleans Saints football have any meaning? I’m sure the NHL does not want to have to deal with this in the future.
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Doan’s sucker punch to Willie Mitchell in Game 1 that was never called was more egregious than his hit on Lewis.
I think stuff that goes on away from the play is TOTALLY unacceptable.
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I would love to see Quick take Doan out late in the third period provided we have a comfortable lead.
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IMHO, the best way to provide some justice and punishment is for the Kings to win the next two games. Put Smith, Doan, Morris, and the rest of the dirty dogs out of their misery.
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nykingfan Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@vplaza,
Best revenge!!!!!!!
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Kingsfanforlife Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
@vplaza, Yes, best answer for their dirty play…WIN IT IN 4!!!!!
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RICH, IS THERE GOING TO BE A HOTEL?
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Shakes Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
@Steve, unclear, but there is a caps unlock button
=)
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Steve Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
@Shakes, Trying to be noticed. And it worked. I just think its such a good idea. Pete Carroll used to do that.
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Shakes Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@Steve, hahaha… although frankly i would’ve noticed anyways since i’ve basically been reloading the blog all day reading for new comments
…..doesn’t really matter….Yotes haven’t got any hope of winning this series…
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@Deke’r, you think they drew the female Bison?
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
*dress
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I am glad the Kings are holding their composure for the most part.
I am glad Penner pounced though, but hope we don’t need to again.
Smith though no respect for choking King and the slash to Brown.
And I have to go on the record again, brown has my fav since the first time I saw him play and hitting guys bigger than him
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I’m just glad that Brown is okay after the Hanzel hit. That gave me flashbacks to last year with Kopi!
But let’s talk about this run. I have been watching the games through ESPN America and during the commercial times they recap historical moments (the good and the bad) in professional sports. They showed a lot of LA memories with the Lakers and the Dodgers back in the day, but what I realized is that we are in the middle of one of those moments right now.
Regardless of what happens, we are witnessing sports history. I just hope (and I really believe it is going to happen) we get on the good side of history. It’s making me miss home, but I might just have to make an early trip to catch a game seeing as my last home playoff game was last year at the game that shall not be mentioned.
I’m just grateful that the Kings are finally the team that is most feared. The only other time another team in these playoffs has played like us was NJ vs PHI. That’s it, Only one team (and only for one series) has done what we have done to the three top teams in the NHL/these playoffs.
Go Kings Go!!!!
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Off topic, but Ruh-Roh!
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/47311-NHL-files-CBA-termination-notice-to-NHLPA.html
Let’s really hope that calmer and saner heads prevail and not ruin what looks like a potential run of good years for the Kings if it’s interrupted by a lockout.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
@vplaza, One has to believe they will get this done. If there is another work stoppage, the NHL is done in America.
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If watch the replay you’ll see how far Doan travels to deliver the hit. He was in front if his net and skated to Lewis with arms up. We wasn’t going to play the puck in any way. I say the intent is clear. Punish the intent NHL!
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10 down, 6 to go. 6!!!!!! I can’t believe this. I love it, but I can’t believe it.
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vplaza Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
@DesertKing,
Be careful. They may pull the plug on you and take you out of the Matrix and into the real world.
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DesertKing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
@vplaza,
oh crap, which pill did I take?!!
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
@DesertKing, free your heeeeaaaaadddddd!
DesertKing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@Stuart
OK, I saw a white rabbit, I followed it, and I ended up in GLENDALE? GLENDALE, really? I’m gonna need a bigger Matrix………………..
Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@DesertKing, bwahahahaha!!! and it was 200 deezgreez???
Not the best view, but here’s the Morris knee hit on Scuderi: http://youtu.be/rCT5CMhcGL8?hd=1
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com), and Buffon simply wrote it off as Morris was already committed to the hit…!!! WTF??? Committed to the hit as he glided about 5 feet with his knee out??? ricola!
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I was in PHX for games 1&2. I have to share with everyone here who wasn’t there that the Coyote fan base (if you can even call it that) is one the worst, if not the worst I have ever seen in any sport. They aren’t smart hockey people, they complained and whined throughout both games, and even booed their WCF team during a late PP. On top of this, I got yelled at by an older dude because I mentioned (too loudly I guess) to my GF that I couldn’t wait to get out of his gawd awful heat!! Too funny, but pretty sad also.
Anyway, I guess my point is this, yes there were some dirty plays by PHX and yes the refs missed some things, and yes it appears the league won’t do what they
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Shotongoal Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
@Shotongoal, Probably should with some of the calls but, I really hate to see so many here emphasizing these things instead of focusing on what an amazing job the Kings are doing. Sorry folks, but it makes us look like whiners too. The Kings have handled everything the right way, maybe we as fans and bloggers should try harder to follow suit.
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plywood Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
@Shotongoal, I think we have a good reason to “compaln” when goon tactics are being used to try and hurt our players. Look up the meaning of the word “whining”. There’s a huge difference.
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Shotongoal Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
@plywood, Complaining is complaining and there is waaaaaay too much time being spent here talking about it when this team is doing some very special things. This is playoff hockey and nothing has happened in this series that hasn’t happened since the beginning of hockey. YOu don’t hear the players complaining do you? But, go ahead and complain because it’s really gOing to make a difference right?
SLIM Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
@Shotongoal,
I agree with you.SOG…
How bout we talk about how
Our rookie King has the most goals this post season…
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Shotongoal Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@SLIM, Exactly dude and I’m loving sporting his jersey! It’s undefeated in these playoffs!!!
For a good laugh read this link on why the ‘Yotes won’t be swept. I even says they have the momentum!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1185559-stanley-cup-playoffs-2012-why-the-la-kings-wont-sweep-the-phoenix-coyotes
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Cav Pilot Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
@Big Rob in Dallas, LOL. It’s the old, “We got them right where we want them” spin. Too funny.
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Mars Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@Big Rob in Dallas,
The Kings have looked dominant so far, but the momentum, as crazy as it is to say, may be favoring the Coyotes.
LOL
Someone call an ambulance he is having a stroke!
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Mars Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
@Big Rob in Dallas, http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1185136-nhl-playoffs-predicting-the-outcome-of-four-questionable-coyotes-plays
Brown is a know diver? LOL
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Pili Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@Big Rob in Dallas, My favorite part was “The Kings have looked dominant so far, but the momentum, as crazy as it is to say, may be favoring the Coyotes.” Of course it does LOL.
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Jack Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
@Big Rob in Dallas, What that guy wrote is laughable and about the same dribble that Vancouver and St. Louis wrote after losing 2 at home…what else can they do but dream.
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Rich, What is the situation with Fraser??????????????? Please let us know,if you know .. We are family and really need to know…
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Donald Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Privacy please….you don’t need to know.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Unless you are actual family of his, I sincerely doubt you need to know.
This is the NHL playoffs…family issues could mean a concussion!
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@mrbrett7, then it would upper body family issues…
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“Department of Player Safety” is just a joke…
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
@Csaba Bhody, ***FIXED*** “Department of Some-Player Safety”
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
@pr0cess, ***2x FIXED*** “Department of High-Profile-Player Safety”
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Mars Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
@Stuart, Department of Shareholder and Owner safety.
DesertKing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@Csaba Bhody,
“Department of Player Safety Unless The Protection of the Player’s Safety Impinges Upon The League’s Ability To Turn A Profit, Even If It Is The Right Thing To Do But Will Cause Bettman To Have To Make A Decision Because That Gives Him A Headache”
Yep, another bureaucracy.
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Brownie checked a yotes player and both he and Doan had a fight and that was that. Both Doan and Smith will get theirs another time and place. Handzel will probably just get one game which I won’t be happy about, but I can deal with that. Trying not to be too biased, but our composure during all this crap really says a lot about this team. I couldn’t be more proud of my team and how well they play and staying away from all the cheap tactics that other teams have to resort to. The yotes will definitely get theirs next season, but we have higher priorities in sight. Go Kings!
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For game #3, no Hanzal, Doan with tears in his eyes, Smith looking like a deer in the headlights, the other Yotes MIA, Tippett mumbling to himself, and our Kings, motoring through all of the jetsam and flotsam, keeping the pressure on knowing that if all else fails, JQ has their back. Concentrate and focus on this 3rd game,get the win, and create the worst possible environment for the Yotes to try and stage a comeback from being 3 down. GKG!!
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@DesertKing, we should get those two bald guys to sit right behind DT in Staples…superstitious, that’s all! ;D
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Did you guys remember to change Brown’s oil?
Squirt some WD40 on those joints and put some thread lock on the nuts and bolts?
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Look lets not make any mistake, This is not going to be easy, The Blues gave everything and the Yotes are cheap and will be as dirty as VAN to stay in this.. No one here should be looking past what is at hand, Lets hope Sutter keeps them honest..
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jonsey Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@pr0cess, The Blues played dirtier than VAN and PHX is not too much worse than STL
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Uh-oh, just heard that Dustin Brown got a 1-game suspension for viciously attacking Mike Smith’s stick with the back of his leg. (Just as logical as some of the other decisions…it could happen…!)
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
@Mel Powell, LOL!!! good one, you caught me with my mouth open!
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Kings fans sign this petition!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hire-bob-miller-and-jim-fox-to-broadcast-nhl/
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@longbeachyo, sigh i wish this would do some good…
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AliCali Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@longbeachyo, Since the petition is to hire Bob and Jim for the Western Conference semi-finals, it might be a bit too late.
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Sammuch Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
@longbeachyo,
I signed it and maybe we need to post it elsewhere too! Miller & Fox need to be with us all the way!
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Hey Rich, Have you seen that petition? Any weight to it?
Also, what do you think about having a rating (like/dislike) system for each comment on here. …could be fun.
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
@longbeachyo, Last year i think, Rich talked about making this like a FB format and people flipped out so…
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TheAcaciaStrain Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@longbeachyo, this is a wordpress site and the Disqus comment system would be amazing here. we could keep the exact same format, just add ratings and sorting.
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So how busy can shanny be? There are 4 teams? why does it take so long to get a decision?
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DesertKing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
@pr0cess,
Golf. Every Wednesday. With Gary.
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
@DesertKing, guess that would take all day… they both suck im sure
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TheAcaciaStrain Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
@pr0cess, hahaha i laughed at that
DesertKing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
@pr0cess,
Can you imagine the conversation during that round?
Shan – F@#&!
Bett – I beg your pardon? Was that expletive following that most horrific slice into the rough?
Shan – F@#& yea, it sure was. What do you want me to do about Doan?
Bett – Oh goody, a new sponsor! With all of those nasty hits to the backs of the players, we should have a backpain pill sponsor like Doans. A raise to everyone in the marketing and sales department!
Shan – No sir, Doan, the player, the idiot who runs people on national TV.
Bett – Oh, that Doan. Isn’t he the one who cried yesterday? Yes, leave him be, we need to show our emotional side.
Shan – You know sir, the Kings are rolling through everyone and they have a shot at winning the Cup.
Bett – No!! (gasp) the horror! Theeee Cup! In LA? Where it never snows? How can this be?
Shan – Well, you haven’t been paying attention. You have been golfing an going to movies.
Bett – Who is the best player on the Kings right now?
Shan – Brown and Quick
Bett – Let’s see, that crazy goalie Smith is on the Phoenix team. Have him take Borwn out with a slash.
Shan – been there, done that. Brown is tougher than Smith.
Bett – How about that Hanzal guy? He is somehwat of a loose cannon. Have him take Brown out.
Shan – Been there, done that too. Now I have to suspend him. Brown was just too tough.
Bett – Well, there is only one thing left to do.
Shan – yes?
Bett – Pass the Grey Poupon for my schnitzel and have someone order me some new swim trunks since it looks like I will have to spend some time in LA.
Mars Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
@pr0cess, Serious.
Last I checked there was only ONE game last night, and if I am not mistaken HE WAS THERE.
Should have been done after the freaking game.
I call a Penalty on Shanny and Bettman for delay of call, they each forefit $2500 to the NHLPA
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
@Mars,
hollywood movies aren’t made in one day, what makes you think shanny’s videos are? these things take time and effort to become presentable. I hear the 3-d version will send brown into your living room.
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Side note: one good thing about this series is that there are no long delays between games (like the first round). I think for a team like the Kings on a roll that’s a great thing… it keeps our momentum going and doesn’t let Phoenix try and re-gather themselves
(they odd layoffs obviously hasn’t affected the Kings thus far, but clearly the players seems to be in favor of getting into a rhythm)
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Last thought: it was HUGE to finish the game 4-0 and not have it tail to be like a 4-2 win or something. That’s the sign of a mature team, we literally gave them nothing to build-off of for game 3
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vplaza Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
@Shakes,
I think they are building their plans for vacation after game 2.
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Why wasn’t Gagne out there?
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pr0cess Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
@Duneman247, He was on the moon saving the League from a un-seen enemy
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DesertKing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
@Duneman247,
Last seen in Montreal, trying to learn French, again.
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vplaza Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@Duneman247,
He was somewhere near the Horn of Africa, fighting pirates.
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Stuart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
@vplaza, with Pompey?
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there is a good picture in a Phoenix article of Brownie gimmacing in pain from Smith’s chop ouside of that $H!%head’s crease. That pictue should be enlarged and posted where the King’s come on to the ice the following two games to get the King’s motivated. The video clip should also be played in a loop on the Jumbotron at Staples preiodically to stoke up the fans and the players.
I say kick the dogs to the curb where they belong. End it at Staples. GKG!
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The link:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/articles/2012/05/15/20120515kings-gritty-play-leaves-coyotes-frustrated.html
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SLIM Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@crashin’da net,
Apparently Nolan started all this by manhandling Smith…
This article and it’s few comments are brilliant…
If you can’t beat us on the ice…Then…
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I have a feeling that these plays are motivating for the Kings..they will come out like gangbusters and take game 3. PHX I think just shoveled nicely their own grave. There is no let up now when we play at home, so get ready for some puck retrieving from your filthy net Smith!!
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I was at Lazy Dog Cafe, it was meeting you all & Mat tthe sticker is on the Car!
I have to say, this team is scary & reminds me of 80′s NYI team how they played that poistion game from D to the offense puck movement! DD is starting to remind me of Dennis Potven of NYI!
The scary thing is we still got prospects to keep this going for 3 to 5 years of being Cup contenders…
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It’s the conference finals… If it was regular season Doan wouldn’t be back for a few games!
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SO it takes SMith breaking Brown’s leg to warrant supplemental fine or suspinsion. Shanahan you are a joke.
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The Smith hack-attack was flagrant. Of the officials on the ice I can’t believe one of them didn’t chime in when the decision was made to penalize Brown for diving.
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I hope there’s payback in the plans for Smith! Once this series is in hand, a high speed puck handling attack on net, a knee in the face. Or Nolan pushed in the net, when Smith pulls one of his dirty tricks beat the crap out of him. Just make sure the right players are on the ice at the time. They can’t beat the Kings so they revert to dirty play.
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