Most of the players were on the ice for the morning skate. No lineup changes expected. There was talk afterward about the need for more (and higher-quality) shots on the power play.
Incidentally, the Kings did hear from Brendan Shanahan regarding Dwight King’s hit on Alex Pietrangelo, and they were told that the on-ice call — a two-minute boarding penalty — was correct. More notes and quotes to come…
Wow, really the right call was made against the kings?
I don’t know how to react!
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am
@Lake Forest, just accept it and move on
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Gail Web Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Lake Forest, Yea but we in trouble for tonight as Dan O’Rourke is on the ice tonight and he is always against the Kings for sure trouble tonights game?
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cjms Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
@Lake Forest,
“The league needs Hollywood in the playoffs…” (with Nashville, Phoenix, and St. Louis being the other western teams)
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P1 LA Kings Fan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
@cjms, hahaha, courtesy of T. Renney
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After further review, the call on the ice stands.
Well, of course.
Moving on.
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It wasn’t the correct call. Should have been 4 minutes with the cut, but that’s it. But the ref missed it. I’m just glad to hear that it look like AP may indeed play tonight.
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Stuart Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:40 am
@Donald_S, 4 minutes for cutting?
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DesertKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:41 am
@Stuart,
If I see some guy named “Mick” around here, I am running!
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* Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
@DesertKing, Boo Mcgoo
Weasel Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:42 am
@Donald_S,
Agreed should have been a double minor for the blood. Not sure why the result was so bad, it didn’t look like an actual shove to me. I didn’t DVR the game so I couldn’t watch the replays in HD mutlitple times.
DID King really shove/push or was it more inadvertant?
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DesertKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:55 am
@Weasel,
Inadvertant
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Minnesota Kings Fan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:31 am
@DesertKing,
NOW we agree!
LAPD line Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Weasel, Double minor is not an option with boarding calls. Either a two minute minor or five minute major. The deciding factor between those two penalties isn’t whether or not there is blood, it’s the violence of the hit in the referees opinion. Read the NHL rules online. It actually explains things quite well, and being as unbiased as I can, I think the right call was made.
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PRMan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@LAPD line, Agree. It’s got to be clear intent to injure or pure recklessness to get the 5/game. Bitz’ hit on Clifford was pure recklessness.
Dwight King was just going for the puck when Pietrangelo decided to interfere with him and cut him off using the net instead of playing the puck. King couldn’t stop his momentum that quickly.
john o Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
@LAPD line,
Is this DS from NTN?
LAPD Line Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
@john o, Nope…. GS from RB
PurpleBlacknGold Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@Donald_S, I don’t believe there is a double minor for boarding… It’s either a 2 minute minor or a 5 minute major if I am not mistaken. The cut wasn’t the focus, and shouldn’t have been.
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PhillyKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
@PurpleBlacknGold, I think you are right… the only time a double minor for an injury is applied, is for high sticking
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Shotongoal Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:47 am
@Donald_S, Boarding is either a 2 minute minor or a 5 minute major for injuring. There is no 4 minute boarding penalty. Who cares anyways? It’s over……..
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Sebastian Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:51 am
@Donald_S, i believe the only call they add 2min for injury is high sticking. other than that its either 2 or 5.
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:00 am
@Donald_S, didn’t the blood come only after he was at the bench? that was some Hulk Hogan razor blade action if you ask me and Shanahan
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PRMan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@Shuchuk, He probably got cut by his chin strap and it didn’t start bleeding until he moved it around.
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Perro Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:00 am
@Donald_S, It wasn’t a high stick. I maybe wrong but I thought the only time a 2 min was changed to a 4 when there is blood is on a high stick infraction.
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letswinthecup2012 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@Donald_S, wrong
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T Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:16 am
@Donald_S, You sound like the announcers during the game. “There’s blood, should be a double minor.” Yeah, if it was a high stick. I wanted to beat my TV with it’s own shoe.
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jkking Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:18 am
@T, should of been 8 minutes for fraser crying BLOOD in both eyes!!!!
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PRMan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@T, I know. I was saying “Double minor for boarding? Did I miss a rule change?”
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bubbaganoush Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@Donald_S,
I’m sorry , but why does blood from your chin strap make it an automatic 4 minute in everyones eyes ? A 5 minute major should be the only alternate call . That call should only be called if they think the severity of the check was there. In my eyes he gave him a good nudge, but didn’t drive him into the boards a follow him there. He needs to protect himself near the boards a bit and this wouldn’t even be a topic of conversation.
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MIckey Keenan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:38 am
@bubbaganoush, The Blood rule only applies to high sticking infractions. The rule book states that boarding is a 2 minute penalty or a 5 minute major if the referee feels that severity or intent warrants it.
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Donald_S Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@Donald_S,
You guys are right. I check, it’s only stick infractions, (high stick, spearing) that have a double minor. So if it’s not a major, then it’s 2 minutes, even if the guy needs a transfusion. Interesting that there is no middle ground.
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Shotongoal Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Donald_S, That’s what I said 48 posts ago… ……again, don’t know why some are making such a big deal about this penalty. Blues fans???
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Donald_S, That only applies to a high stick. With boarding, it’s either 2 or a 5 minute major.
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Hmmmm, working on the PP. Why?
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Shakes Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am
@DesertKing, if it ain’t fixed why work it
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DesertKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:56 am
@Shakes,
ROTFLMAO!!!
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elijah Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:50 am
@DesertKing, i hear they are introducing Doughty to the term “one timer”. we are hoping he understands.
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Stuart Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:53 am
@elijah, since they’re introducing the term, they should also introduce him to how to set up a teammate for one too…
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:01 am
@elijah, Doughty thinks “one timer” is a reference to how often he worked out during his contract negotiations.
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There’s no such thing as a double minor for boarding… it’s either a minor or a major. It was the right call.
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once again for anybody that hasn’t seen it….
The Save against McDonald….great pic!
http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/22/22253868-bac9-54fc-bcae-b7d98f5c95c1/4f9cb10cbce2f.image.jpg
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Lake Forest Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:59 am
@Real 7, This should be a .gif since there was like 3 different saves at that time.
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@Lake Forest, that’d be SWEET!
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Michael J. Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@Real 7,
Nice!
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once again, Matt Greene’s shortie….Matt Greene, the scoring machine…LOL!
won’t get tired of watching this until tonight’s highlights materialize…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv1HkixAprg
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Stuart Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:54 am
@Real 7, Matt Greene, Matt Greene the scoring ma-sheene!!! has a nice ring to it but not as good as Clement, Clement hands of cement… LOL
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JGSmall Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:25 am
@Real 7, I wonder if the two forwards who coasted back allowing Matt to get to the puck survived the Blue’s practice. If they are busting back for support, Greenie does not charge for the rebound. Also, it was nice of Shattenkirk to catch Elliot to pull him off the post (and good the refs recognized it and didn’t call Brownie for interference).
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KC23 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
@Real 7, Get “casual” against our PK and pay the price.
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Jonathan Quick, “those legs are everywhere!” video….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=yv99Z2cEeTw
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DesertKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@Real 7,
They keep comparing him to a crab on the NHL shows. I vote we now call him “De Craw” in honor that famous villain from Get Smart.
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Gianni_B Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@DesertKing, . THE CRAW!!!! I freakin love it!! Watched all the “Get Smart” episodes as a kid…. classic stuff!
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Harrison Merkin Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:14 am
@Gianni_B, What’s that Chief? I can’t hear you. Must be in the Con of Silence.
Harrison Merkin Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:15 am
@Gianni_B, Dammit…..Cone. Not Con, although that be relevant as well. GKG!
Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@DesertKing, I’m sticking with “QUICK”
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DesertKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:10 am
@Shuchuk,
Actually, I think you are right
Purple and Gold Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
@Shuchuk, How bout this as long as Quick is in everyone “misses it by that much”
Finally Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am
@DesertKing, Not “Craw” , “CRAW”!
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Adamic39 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:35 am
@Finally, Get Smart and the Kings, they both had my favorite Ziggy’s.
Adamic39 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am
@Finally, Not mention my two favorite 99′s.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Polak go after King early in the game, whether Pietrangelo plays or not.
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Cruiznblue Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@AZ King,
That would be a good thing…King is a big boy…he can handle it. If they do take runs at the kings…they better start capitalizing on those opportunities.
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:05 am
@AZ King, this might be in poor taste, but here goes:
Polak walked into a bar with a duck under his arm. The bartender saw them and said, “Hey, what are you doing bringing that pig in here?” Polak answered, “That’s not a pig; it’s a duck.” And the bartender replied, “I was talking to the duck!”
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Harrison Merkin Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@Shuchuk, So the says to the genie….”a 12″ pianist…!!!???” ” you really think I wished for a 12″ pianist,.”
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:37 am
@Harrison Merkin, HAHAHA.
Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:40 am
@AZ King, Won’t happen.
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AZ King Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:42 am
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
Think Bertuzzi and Weber. All I’m saying is don’t be surprised.
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Stuart Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:44 am
@AZ King, don’t ever open the Dwight King door… LOL
I see what you’re saying, but I can’t see STL risking their focus, at home, on getting DKing back… King does not equal Weber.
PRMan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@AZ King, I would be shocked that a Hitchcock team could get that out of control, so yeah, I would be very surprised.
DRTBUG 22 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@AZ King, It was Crombeen that came after King at the end of the game and got 10 mins for his small effort.. I’m sure the if not Crombeen again someone is going to step up and answer the bell.. King is a BIG boy but hasn’t shown much interest in that part of the game so far this season.. He handled Crombeen’s attempt very well for the last min of the game but when they come knocking again, he has to answer… for himself and for the TEAM… I hope he is ready…
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KC23 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
@AZ King, Won’t happen. Wish it would though. Vancouver paid the price for trying to send a message to DD during the last series. The Kings make other teams pay for anything that takes your player out of position for any lenght of time.
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If one good thing came out of this whole boarding “controversy”, we finally got a break from Blues fans bragging about Courtnall charging into Storr. Funny how that worked out.
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gralx Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@Capt Jam, I keep thinking back to the 5 minute major we took against them (player and year escape me now). They scored at least 3 times on that major and just buried us….
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RoyalPain Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@gralx,
Courtnall on Storr, then O’Donnell beat on him as he turtled. I was about ten rows up behind the net as they scored three on that major. Bad memory.
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PRMan Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@RoyalPain, Odie still did the right thing by wailing that gutless puke.
Our PP needs a shake up.
First line PP.
Kopitar, Brown, Williams, up front.
Stoll Voynov on point.
2nd line
Richards, Carter, Penner
Dougty, Martinez
Penner should plunk his ass infront of Elliott and let Doughty, martinez and Carter tee off low shots so he can coolect the garbage.
First line Stoll has a good shot from the point. he should take the faceoff and then move back.
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:06 am
@Perro, or…
FIRE KOMPON!
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Perro Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:37 am
@Shuchuk, I think by now everyone knows they need to chaneg the PP coach, but that will not happen in the playoffs
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:08 am
@Perro, “Stoll has a good shot from the point” ????? Wh-What? He has a good shot from the point if you’re looking for somebody who can shoot 15-30 feet high and wide of the net. If so, Stoll’s your guy*!
*Stoll is the dude you want coming in on a breakaway if you need that corner PICKED. just ask vancouver
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Perro Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am
@Shuchuk, Stoll has a bomb of aa shot. Yes he needs to put it on net more frequently but so does most of our blue liners.
He was used on the point in Edmonton and it worked there. Why not try it here.
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Stuart Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:10 am
@Perro, DDD should not have the puck on his stick for more than 4 seconds on the PP… I pine for the JJ head fakes when I see DDD wind up for a faker or pass it into someone’s skates… quicker movement from him would be best.
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DesertKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:12 am
@Perro,
Our PP needs a coach. DEADHORSEALERT! DEADHORSE ALERT!
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Harrison Merkin Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:17 am
@DesertKing, Why the long face?
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DesertKing Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:36 am
@Harrison Merkin,
I was Komponized!
4tee Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@Perro, I agree with getting Richards off the 1st unit. All he does on the power play is give up possession with ill-timed bad angle shots and Penner-type thread the needle passes that don’t make it through.
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The Pietrangelo hit is by no means over. King will be a marked man in game 2. Crombeen gave him a chance to square off in the dying seconds of game 1 and King didn’t accept the invitation; based on what Nolan has said in the past, King can scrap pretty well, but I don’t imagine the Blues took too kindly to King not only dishing out the one-armed push on Pietrangelo, then backing down from a fight at the end of the game.
The Kings had a somewhat similar thing happen early in the season when Bergenheim delivered the big hit to the head of Richards. Richards then chased him down to drop the gloves but Bergenheim wouldn’t go – he then elbowed Richards in the head to get away from Richard’s antagonizing. Moreau approached him later in the game and tried to get him to fight, still wouldn’t accept, which seemed to be the biggest complaint by Moreau after the game; it’s one thing to take a run at someone, but backing down afterwards made things even worse.
I’d expect King to be involved in a scrap within the first 5 minutes of game 2.
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Stuart Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:21 am
@He Shoots, He Scores, I thought it was Nichol who was asking him to dance… either way, I can’t see King taking that one, nor STL focusing on going after King rather than doing what they did out of the gate in game 1. But who knows… especially since it seems that their guy will be back in the line-up.
Weirder things have happened, though, so you never can tell…
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Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com) Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am
@He Shoots, He Scores, Won’t happen.
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He Shoots He Scores Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
@Paul Armbruster (KingsNewsDaily.com),
Here’s your chance to eat crow. Called it with 20 secs to spare.
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Shuchuk Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:41 am
@He Shoots, He Scores, King is a big boy, he can handle his business. I’d be surprised if there is a fight early, too much riding on this game. GKG!
Pedal to the metal!
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KingsATX Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@He Shoots, He Scores, So let them instigate, I wouldn’t engage. Already down a game, I doubt they’ll want to take a stupid penalty early. Then again, with this PP…
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DRTBUG 22 Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 11:46 am
@He Shoots, He Scores, It was Crombeen that came after King at the end of the game and got 10 mins for his small effort.. I’m sure the if not Crombeen again someone is going to step up and answer the bell.. King is a BIG boy but hasn’t shown much interest in that part of the game so far this season.. He handled Crombeen’s attempt very well for the last min of the game but when they come knocking again, he has to answer… for himself and for the TEAM… I hope he is ready…
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Okay lets clarify something my fellow king fans about the hit.
1. its in the past lets all move on
2. it was not warranted for 4 because no boarding 4 min penalty and blood was from chin strap. as a medical professional blodd from gash or laceration from board gushed blood look at every replay in hickey history. a abrasion from chin strap cause the little delayed oozing of blood. JUST FACTS
3. SHanny Made a good call here, no way was king targeting or meaning to injure anyone and its wasnt even a hit it was a nudge boys.
4. Its hockey, things happen, thats why its a MAN;s game
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Hmm….funny how his injury went from an “upper body” to “lower-to mid-body”…and Hitchcock denies that he called it that in the first place. Shady! Go Kings Go!
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Glad they got this right for the Kings. Doesn’t make up for missing Clowe’s stick from the bench, though. The fact that the Sharts are out makes up for it a bit
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since this is a skate update.. any chance we’ll be seeing Gag’s for the conference finals/cup finals? I hear he’s been skating and feeling good. Albeit i watch this blog enough to deduce the answer to my own question, if he is in fact 100% before we take the cup.. will he play?
I miss him. A lot. Im sure Richards and Carter wouldnt mind having him around. Richards needs something or someone to elevate his game.
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