Jeff Carter is back in practice today in a regular white jersey. He’s skating among a group of four second-line players, with Mike Richards, Dwight King and Brad Richardson. The first line would seem to be a reunion of Dustin Brown, Anze Kopitar and Justin Williams. Hopefully, Carter will update his status, post-practice. More updates to come…
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Great news.
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outsider Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 10:47 am
@370455VinSD, even more about the 1st line reunion!!!
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fuzzerson Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@370455VinSD, In the immortal words of Winston Wolf, “Well, let’s not start s**king each other’s d**ks quite yet.” Sounds like DS may have something to say on the subject.
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We need him to have a chance against the ‘nucks
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great news!..
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Good news!
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excellent!
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He’s the keystone of this team. Hopefully he’s feeling good and ready to go.
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dbs Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 10:50 am
@Tyler, Keystone? He’s only been around for 1.5 months! Quick is the only keystone on the Kings.
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Wilmonde Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
@dbs,
While I would agree that Quick is a huge factor to this teams success, (without him, I feel like we wouldn’t be in the playoffs) he only kept us in most games. When Carter came along it was like that extra shove we needed. Quick still kept us in the games, but the presence of Carter allowed the rest of the team to provide Quick the offensive support he needed to get the win.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
@dbs, Quick hasn’t come up big in crunch time yet. I hope he shows this year that he can win games in the playoffs.
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LETS DO THIS!!!! GO KINGS GO!
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Get Richardson out of there. Put him with the 4th line if anyone.
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Booga01 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
@California Royalty: I’ve read in some other posts to scratch Penner and insert Richardson. I think I may agree with that line of thinking.
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MM Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
@Booga01, Dang, you beat me by a second lol. I agree with that line of thinking. Penner the last two games has done nothing but skate and lose the puck at the slightest physical contact. It’s pathetic.
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PakiFan Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
@MM,
I agree Penner has done nothing the last few games offensively, but he has made some decent defensive plays on big guys on San Jose. We may need his size to bang bodies against Vancouver who is bigger than the Kings. They also play heavier and hit more than the Kings. If Penner can bang Bieksa, Salo, Burrows, etc. It will be worth it to have him in the lineup.
Also, Richardson hasn’t done much the last two games either.
MM Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
@PakiFan, You make a very good point about Penner’s size. Richardson is undersized going up against Thornton and trying to take the puck from Douglas Murray on the forecheck. What I like about Richardson is the energy he brings and how the offensive cycles flow when he is working those boards. Yes, he has not scored since the Minnesota game but he does bring an energy that Penner hasn’t brought in a long, long while.
DanFan Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:05 am
@Booga01, If DS holds true to holding everyone accountable than there is no question that Richie should move to the 3rd line.
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nykingfan Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@DanFan,
Richie being Richards or Richardson?
I can’t agree if you’re talking about Richards, but something needs to be done with Penner..if that means he sits for Richardson, so be it.
MM Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am
@California Royalty, Move Richardson off the 1st line but keep him on the 3rd or 4th line. Move Penner out.
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traveling big bob Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@MM, Completely agree. Penner is a waste out there — it’s effectively a pkill when he’s on the ice.
He doesn’t care and it’s obvious. Not the type of player you want on your line-up during an intense playoff series.
I pray that Saturday was his last game in a LAK jersey.
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fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@California Royalty, Penner will play every game. Bank on it.
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:08 am
@fsd1,
Hope not. No reason to play him since he isn’t trade bait. He’s useless on the ice and is actually a liability since the other team doesn’t have to worry about him.
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fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:12 am
@DesertKing, respectfully disagree, Pens will show in the playoffs and yes I am the eternal optimist!
Michael J. Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
@DesertKing,
IF Penner can bring the intensity he is a valuable asset.
I too am an optimist.
Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@fsd1, You know I was just like you. Optimistic about Penner. Unfortunately that can only last so long. I kept saying hey he spent the offseason training he will be much better this year. Hey he is in a contract year he will be better. He is looking for a new contract for next year he will be better. Unfortunately nothing seems to work he just doesn’t have the drive to play and nothing is going to change that. His soon to be ex wife saw that and she high tailed it out of there. I feel sorry for him for that, but come on he looks good at times but nothing consistently. he takes one step forward and 2 GIANT steps back. He just does not have a the drive or fire to play. He is a great guy and all, very funny. Just doesn’t translate it on the ice, even though he has all the skill in the world. He just doesn’t have the heart or drive to play.
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LAPD line Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Jeff_R, wish we could transplant Richardsons heart into Penner’s body.
san Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
@Jeff_R, we can;t except him to do a lot soreing on the third line . he sit on bench very often for about 10 m. he cold for a lot of the time.
yetiman_oc Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@Jeff_R, He has a sc already.
Ian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@fsd1, DS will make him earn the right to play every game. Bank on it.
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purple and gold Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
@California Royalty, Richardson would not be of much use on the fourth line. Sutter has been using the fourth line as a bang um up, dig it out of the offensive boards line, change the momentum kind of line. Richardson would get bumped off the puck so fast and make that line completely ineffective.
If you take Penner out and put richardson in you again change the dynamic of that line, Penner is suposed to be a big body up front and when he is that line gets chances. Again Richardson will not fill that role and would make that line less productive.
Richardson works with the first line because he is fast and can be in the right spot for playmakers a la Kopi to set him up for a good shot or rebound goal. he might work on the second, but you’d have to take out King and King is going to do a better job with the big body to dig out pucks and get to the front of the net then richadson is with his speed.
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BarMade Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@purple and gold, on the road, I’d go with Richardson over Penner to minimize or avoid bad speed/defensive matchups.
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san Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@BarMade, it is hard to be sceeming goal from the bench
Whewww!
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Video of Carter… http://youtu.be/hYIuRniyZlg
More on Twitter: @KingsNewsDaily
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KINGCANADA87 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 10:53 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair), +2
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Michael J. Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair),
Knew you wouldn’t let us down waves, errr.. Kings, errr… whatever…
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KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
@Michael J.,
LOL. I’ll add my real name soon.
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Lead Feet Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair),
Nice quality video!
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Carter doesn’t even need to score to change the dynamics, it forces the other team’s d to play honest.
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370455VinSD Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
@QUICKsilver, Agreed, not to mention the boost our bench seems to get with him out there.
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@QUICKsilver, Bingo
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Awesome!
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Great to hear Carter is back to practice. Kopi is going to be a monster in the playoffs. I’m positive he is going to transfer all that energy he couldn’t us in last years playoffs, and make Vancover regret drawing the Kings in the first round. Richards, Carter, and King will follow-up that first line with a bang of their own. Penner is the only question mark in our fowards, but Richardson will fill in nicely if Penner lets us down.
I’m disappointed we didn’t win the division, butI am happy we play the Canucks. They are dirty, cheap, and whine a whole lot, but they are good. If there is a team I want to see the Kings take out, it is that one
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LB Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 10:56 am
@socalkings,
I echo your second point there. It would not feel nearly as good to eliminate St. Louis or Chicago as it will when they take out the Canucks!
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@LB, I would love to take out the Canucks and then get past the 2nd round and play the Sharks and bounce them to get to the Finals. Ultimate revenge for our past 2 year failings.
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Bench Penner, reinsert Carter, keep Richardson. When Penner is on the ice, the other team knows it can take a break and skate at half speed to keep up with him, he isn’t going to hit anyone, he will go to the front of the net and just park there until you give him a little shove at which time he will move and say “excuse me, very sorry.” Playing Penner thinking other teams will respect his ability didn’t work during the regular season and sure as heck won’t work in the play-offs. At least with Richardson you have hustle, speed, some hitting and unpredictability (since he doesn’t really know himself what he is doing).
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Qmungous Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
@DesertKing, good call. Go Richie!!!
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QUICKsilver Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am
@DesertKing,
I think you hit it on the head DK.
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@QUICKsilver,
Pleas send all nachos to section 209, row #7 on Sunday the 15th. GKG!!!
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Michael J. Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
@DesertKing,
I think you meant section 319
Michael J. Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:03 am
@DesertKing,
“since he doesn’t really know himself what he is doing” – LOL.
Funny, yet I am not persuaded to take Penner out… yet…
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:05 am
@Michael J.,
The last 82 games of this season, last year’s play-offs and the final 20 games of the prior season didn’t do it for you? You sir are an eternal optimist
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Michael J. Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am
@DesertKing,
I like Richie, but he’s like that utility infielder that hits .260 with a whopping 7 homers in a full season year-after-year. Penner is a slugger who once hit 40 homers for three years straight, only to hit 12 this year.
Wait, this isn’t baseball…
Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@Michael J, To take that analogy further, Richie is that utility infielder who hits 7 home runs in the regular season year after year, but then comes alive and hits 7 home runs in the Playoffs/World Series. I’ve seen that before. Chris Kontos ring a bell?
Michael J. Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
@DesertKing,
Brian Doyle is something like my second or third cousin once-removed, so I know exactly how that kind of thing works
Wait, still not baseball…
lvkingaholic Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@DesertKing, hate to say it but he did look like a big turd out there………..
traveling big bob Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
@Michael J., If his play hasn’t persuaded you yet, I’m not sure anything will, my friend! Team leading minus 7 this year with a shopping 17 points for the year. Matt Greene had 15 points! Worse than that, the guy doesn’t hustle or generally seem to care while he’s on the ice. Funny, but I always seem to notice he has one hand on his stick as he very gingerly strolls back to the bench to change lines after 30 seconds of ineffectively putzing around — usually at pretty inopportune times for a change too.
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This is going to really boost the confidence of the whole team.
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Great. That has to increase their chances by a bit!
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I’m praying for a Kings sweep, not just for the obvious reasons but also because I will be in Germany the 20th throught the first which would mean missing games 5-7.
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LUCALACA Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:08 am
@370455VinSD, a sweep would be the best thing. I’ll be in Vancouver in August and would love to walk around in my Kings jersey and Kings hat proudly after we upset the presidents trophy winners
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twnclick Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
@LUCALACA, Vancover Fans are brutal you’re much bravier than i would be.
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LA_1968 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@370455VinSD, You should be able to stream the games. At worst, $20 for a month of the NHL Game Center Live. Oh and a question… Does the Black Flag logo need the words to say what it is?
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370455VinSD Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
@LA_1968, couldn’t figure out how to crop it without going into the paintbrush program. The crop function on Gravatar is a bit wonky. I have GameCenter and I hope it works on my cousin’s computer. The good thing is I will probably have wicked jet lag so I will be up at 3am anyway.
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370455VinSD Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
@LA_1968, I was going to go with a Dead Kennedys logo but I wanted to wait til we got past the Sharks.
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yes the Kopitar Brown Williams is great but a Kopitar Brown and Carter would be a great line also. as for the second line not really sure: Richards WIlliams and King/Richardson
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fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
@LUCALACA, it will be as it was, kopi, willy and brownie, carter, richards and king and so on
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
@LUCALACA, I was thinking the same thing. The Richards Carter King line wasn’t cutting it IMO. They helped the first line score goals by keeping the other team guessing on who to match their best D pair with. Now that Willy is scoring and Richards seems to have some chemistry with Willy. I say try Carter with Kopi for a few shifts. Could be lightning in a bottle!
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LUCALACA Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@ILLEGALSTICK33, word!
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
@ILLEGALSTICK33, It sure looked like Carter had chemistry with Kopi when he played with him in the one game I saw. Regardless, I have faith that Sutter and Nichols will figure out what works best compared to when Leslie Nielson was the coach.
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
@puck73, Maybe now that Richards has gotten going with Carter out, he will continue that with Carter in. Maybe Carter being out will turn out to be a blessing in disguise as it allowed Willy to get Richards going. Now Carter can take over and the Dynamic duo we were all hoping for will arise, with King being a benefactor. Our top 2 lines will be unstoppable.
Belexes Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
@puck73,
LOL, is Del Harris coming back?
Penner is like the Dorn Character in major leaque. Someone needs to have a serious talk with him and let him know you got one game if you don’t come through you’re out of the playoffs.
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twnclick Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
@twnclick, Or you could break a leg or something and call someone up on emergency basis.
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IceGuy Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
@twnclick,
Charlie Sheen?
“Winning”?
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Pens out. Richardson in! Does anyone know if FSN will broadcast the games? I would rather listen to Bob and Jim do the call. The guys on NBCSN make my blood boil.
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fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:11 am
@ILLEGALSTICK33, all games on nbc
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am
@fsd1, u got to be kidding?
Last year we got to hear bob and jim…Now we have to hear guys that will love Canucks!…
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DanielC Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am
@fsd1, are you sure? Bob & Jim have to be doing some sort of call, maybe on Ch. 13 locally?
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fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am
@DanielC, possible, I live in Tennessee, so the ads say all playoff games are being shown on NBC which includes the NHL network and Versus
DanielC Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am
@DanielC, Just read up on it, the NBC/CBC schedule is per NHL.. The Kings & FSW I think have yet to announce any TV scheduling as of yet
fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:15 am
@DanielC, Gotcha
Sebastian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:16 am
@ILLEGALSTICK33, as i understand it, FSN and the regional networks will get to broadcast the first round only. then the national broadcasts take over.
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
@Sebastian, SWEET!!! But I guess I will have to mute the oher games cause the Kings are going to the finals!
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LA_1968 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@Sebastian,
I thought that the RSN’s went farther than the first round. They used to for sure.
I any case, thank goodness we’re not playing the Sharks because NBC would just pass us their RSN feed. CBC are biased toward Canadian teams but I can respect that more than the bay area clowns.
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@ILLEGALSTICK33, If you are in Los Angeles you will get Bob and Jim in the first round on either FSN,PT or KCOP. Last season the Ducks were shown with Ahlers and Hazy in the 2nd round. Not sure how that will work out this season with the new tv agreement. I really am hoping when we make it to the finals, that somehow we can get Bob to announce the games. I really want to hear him say and the Kings are the Stanley Cup Champions before he retires.
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Stuart Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
@Jeff_R, So let me get this straight for my own sanity’s sake: if PIT/PHI goes into OT for an hour, there’s not a chance that we’ll have to watch the Kings game in progress on Versus??? We’ll be able to watch it on FSN?
My onle beef with Versus or whatever is the way they BOTCH the playoff coverage with all their “joined in progree” junk!!! at least with NBC in the mix, they’re utilizing other NBC stations…
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
@Stuart,
They’re doing games on CNBC this year as well and NHL Net will pick up anything that’s left off their schedule. Presumably, if Pit/Phi goes to OT, then the Kings game will start on CNBC if Det/Nash ends in regulation. If that also goes to OT, I can only assume NHL Net will pick up the start of the game.
Of course, non of this matters if you live in FSNW/PT regions. An unfortunate side effect of the new deal is Center Ice will show zero playoff games so you’re truly stuck with whatever the NBC family of networks gives you.
FKA PakiFro Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@Stuart,
Dick Ebersol, chairman of the NBC Sports Group, told assembled media at NHL offices in New York (plus others on a conference call) that every postseason game will be broadcast in ENTIRETY on NBC, Versus or “a major NBC Universal national cable channel.”
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=560238
Hope this helps…
Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@Stuart, If your in Los Angeles all games will be through FSN, PT or KCOP and blacked out on whatever NBC station is showing it. This is through the first round, not sure about the rest of the playoffs.
LA_1968 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Jeff_R, @Sebastian,
Sebastian was right. Regional Sports Networks only get first round coverage this year. Some RSN’s will add pregame and/or postgame shows from the second rounds on.
@Stuart, NBC has three cable channels to cover the games so hopefully they will have overlap coverage on the extra channels or simply keep consecutive games on different channels to begin with.
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Stuart Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@LA_1968 & @FKA, thank you so much… I truly hated the way OLN/Versus handled the PO’s in the past… start a 4:00 game and then watch the 3rd period of a game that started at 5:00… good lord that was the stupidest think I’d ever seen!
thanks folks!
GKG
Steve W Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
@ILLEGALSTICK33, According to the LA TImes Pro calendar, on Wednesday the Dodgers play the Pirates @ 7 on Prime,and the Angels are in Minnesota @5 on FSW. So it will have to be channel 13, or even 56. Oh and the Lakers will be on channel 9, Clippers on 5.
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Im sorry to say it but Penner should sit, he is a coaster and watches the play… We dont need to be carrying anyone right now…
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Sebastian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
@pr0cess, no need to apologize, my opinion was Penner should have been sitting out the last 5 games at least. when you see a guy not even pretend to try to chase down an icing call against, even if he knows hes not going to make it, he should not be playing. this guy is a chronic coaster. i think id rather see westgarth play in his spot, and im not a big westgarth fan.
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@Sebastian,
You dont even want to give him a few games? This guy has won a cup before, and who knows, maybe a playoff reappearance might make him do something.
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His ankle, Clowe and really bad refs cost us home ice!
Any watch parties for the away games (I’m looking at you Hooters)?
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
@Maury, The only watch party i know about is the Vancouver watch party. It’s called “Watch your season go bye bye party”.
GKG!!!
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
@ILLEGALSTICK33, Now thats funny! Zing !
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@ILLEGALSTICK33, LOL
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Drew Doughty's Mustache Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
@Maury, Rude. Don’t look at my hooters.
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now we just need Bernier to start
(Quick choked in the 3rd…again…..man i hate being right all the time)
Additionally, the 4th line should be Clifford, Richardson, Nolan
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Sebastian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am
@Paul G, “we” dont need Bernier to start…”we” need our #1 goaltender.
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Paul G Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:33 am
@Sebastian, thats my point….how many #1s came from the NCAA in the 3rd round?
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Sebastian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:42 am
@Paul G, i dont care what your point is, you are wrong. how many times have you heard Bernier and “Vezina” in the same sentence? the kings are in the playoffs because of Quick. were it not for him, their season would be over.
Paul G Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@Sebastian, that is part of my point! you dont hear it because he doesnt get to play enough!
and thats great he can play in the regualr season…so can Berie given the chance
WHEN WILL YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT QUICK CHOKES IN THE PLAYOFFS???
this his last year to prove he can actually play in the post-season, idc what the average “fan” that doesnt play hockey thinks, all i know is that Dean realizes this and thats all that matters
KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@Paul G, Paul if u do play hockey in OHl ur still dotn know how hard it is in NHL so dont get too big headed because the fact is true that u dont know what Choking means..
Sad how Quick carries this team all season long and when the team doesnt win the cup for him its his fault..
Ur not a true fan at all..So stop coming here we kings fan are sick of hearing u and ur friends bashing Quick and putting the blame where it shouldnt be pointed at in less if he lets easy ones..
Sebastian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@Paul G, yeah the Kings were eliminated last year because Quick choked and not because their #1 center was Michal Handzus. pass the pipe dude.
fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:18 am
@Paul G, Quick choked? Boy, do our definitions go against each other or what? Bernier will not start a game. And why would you take out Frasier at all and put someone down there who can’t stay on a puck at all?
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@fsd1, Dont pay any attention to that blogger. He posts stuff about Bernier, alot like @Kinger and @poorman so they can get the attention they crave. Another reason they do it is because they hope you will go ballistic, post something that you will regret, and then Rich pops you for an extended time in the cornfield.
Dont fall for it, your way smarter then he is.
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Paul G Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:35 am
@puck73, please reasd my post below to @fsd1
and i only talk from expereince, i play in the OHL, I think i’m familiar with goaltending
tim chaney Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
@puck73, i love bernier, but you got to dance with the one that brought you…
Paul G Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:32 am
@fsd1, Richardson centered Clifford and Simmonds in the playoffs last year and that became our best line…just trying to re-create it (especially since it seems that Richardson has improved a lil bit defensively)
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Steve W Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Paul G, You play in the OHL? for which team, and are you eligible for the NHL draft? If not, when that time comes and anyone but the Kings pick you, refuse.
KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:18 am
@Paul G, LOL nice joke..
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
@Paul G,
The team choked in the 3rd, but lets blame the guy in net, even though he’s the main reason the Kings went 13-5-3 to end the season, and go with the guy who only started 3 ggames and went 1-1-1.
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Paul G Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@Dominick (defrim65), Bernier has an even lower goal support average than Quick
also, 2 wristers from the blueline? ok 1 was deflected but the other one? my god even houseleague goalies can stop that
Plus: when Pavelski hit the crossbar, Quick was picking his nose or he has a terrible sense of postioning…which one do you is it? Quick was by the right post, deep in his net Pavelski was in he slot
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:37 am
@Paul G, Kings scored 8 goals in those 3 games. Bernier let in 9. I don’t blame Bernier bacusse it’s not fair to sit so long, then start cold, but your support theory doesn’t apply right now, and if it did, then the last thing we want is the Kings scoring less going into the playoffs.
Blaming the goalies when they’ve carried this team into the playoffs is lame anyway. Those plays that you point your finger at as “houseleague” happen to every goalie in the league, and Quick lets them in less than any of them (aside from Lundqvist).
lvkingaholic Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@Paul G, yep, he was saving them for u………..
vegas odds just went from 20-1 to 10-1…lol
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Weasel Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
@tornado12,
Were you serious about that? You’re talking about Cup odds right?
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tornado12 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:31 am
@Weasel, totally NOT serious
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I know this is off-topic.. but I want to see The Kings version of “Because It’s The Cup” ad campaign..anyone have any idea when we will see this? Every other playoff team seems to have one so far.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
@DanielC, they wont because the NHL doesnt really care for the kings
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
@DanielC, Yes we have one but Bettman and Clowe keep our commercial locked up in their bedroom closet!
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@ILLEGALSTICK33, Dude, your are now one of my favorite people on this site. Keep it up, and a Hammond Suite ticket is in your future.
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Sebastian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:25 am
@DanielC, here you go…lol
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/sharks-ryane-clowe-receives-no-supplemental-discipline-playing-162421687.html
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DanielC Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:26 am
@Sebastian, Hahahahah +1. I got a kick out of that. Made my day, thanks guys.
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NoDoughty Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
@Sebastian, LOVE that ad – one of the funniest things I’ve seen. But I think “ballsy” would have been Clow(n)e admitting to it right after the game instead of playing dumb.
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Steve W Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@DanielC, I think were stuck with the Bridgestone and Game center ads instead.
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This might be a little bit of a tangent, but the question is: If the Kings lose in the first round of the playoffs, does DL still keep his job? I know there was a lot of talk and speculation mid-season or so, and I’m curious to see if people still feel the same way.
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fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
@John, I think he stays.
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Ian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
@fsd1, He stays unless the series is not competitive. I don’t think anyone is predicting that though.
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Weasel Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:22 am
@John,
If they exit in the first round I’d say DL should move on. The goal this years wasn’t to just make the playoffs it was to advance in playoffs.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:23 am
@John, i think he stays…It wasnt his fault..he traded for Carter and now they spark… same group but yet they scoring..So what does that mean it wasnt DL fault it was the lazy players fault which finally show some heart.
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Alton Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:24 am
@John, I think he should stay. You cant fault him on Penners lack of production. I would like to see him keep Stoll though.
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Gustavo Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@Alton,
DL should stay. YOU, on the other hand should leave with Stoll and Penner, lol
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:26 am
@John,
If they don’t make it out of the first round, I think you would see DL, DS and JK gone. DL because we didn’t get out of the first round, DS because a new GM will want his/her own coach, and JK just because he sucks and so did our PP for the majority of the season.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:35 am
@DesertKing, I’m willing to guarantee you DL and DS return. The reasoning goes that Sutter did turn the team around, and didn’t get the opportunity to make it “his team.” They’re all going to want to see what he can do when he gets an offseason to plan and a preseason to prepare his team.
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:42 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Makes sense, with DS, but that is only if DL returns, and if we don’t go beyond the first round, DL will be gone.
FKA PakiFro Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:41 am
@DesertKing,
I think AEG is too cheap for that scenario. Those guys have contracts that will continue to be paid while the team doesn’t have that much flexibility on the guys Lombardi has signed/brought in long-term.
Before posting to these types of comments, I guess everyone should ask themselves…who replaces him? When Taylor was let go, Lombardi was an obvious choice. Same with Yzerman in Tampa Bay and Stan Bowman in Chicago. A good GM is harder to find than a good coach, and quite frankly, regardless of the outcome of the series, Lombardi has done a decent job bringing in good players at reasonable costs. No one would have thought Penner would have his worst 80-100 games ever since the trade or that Simmonds would score more than Richards. At the time of the trades, everyone would do those over and over again.
I think the onus really is on the players now. You can fire coaches and managers all day and night, but the players play. There’s an excellent core and a solid supporting cast. It’s undisputed. Its up to them to make it come together now.
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@FKA PakiFro,
As Dominick has pointed out multiple times, Hextall is waiting in the wings and ready to step in.
King Alex Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@John, DL & DS both stay. AEG is not going to fire DL which would result in the firing of DS and pay yet another coach on top of what thay already pay TM (Boo-Just for you Puck!). AEG is not going to use the playoff revenue and season seat price increase generated to pay 2 ex coaches and an ex GM. This post season’s success or failure will not cost DL IMO. DL has 1 more year under contract to get it right or hit the bricks. Next season will be the season DL & DS are in the pressure cooker.
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Having Jeff Carter will give us the edge we need. From the last time we faced this team in the playoffs we are better nowthenthen we were bqck then.We will have our revenge.
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I bet Richards is going to go off this series. big numbers all throughout the playoffs.
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Any word on Gagne??
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:26 am
@Alton, out till next season.
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John Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:32 am
@Dominick (defrim65), Yep, and we don’t need him next year
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Ian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:48 am
@John, Any team in the league could use a healthy Simon Gagne, but that’s hard to come by.
Weasel Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:27 am
@Alton,
I’d guess the word would still be ‘concussion’
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:28 am
@Alton, His dome is really soft. He needs to sit. One more big hit and he might not enjoy retirement.
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:32 am
@ILLEGALSTICK33, Exactly. Shut it down this season, and come to training camp and try again.
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Keep Richardson with third or fourth line…..dont ya remember the playoffs few years ago and which line truely was doing damage? Way to go Carter….playing injury like Williams style.
Thats my bet.
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Gustavo Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@gino,
Last year Richardson played with Clifford and Westy, right? Clifford did some serious damage in that series.
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my buddy and I did took a drink each time the ryane clowe situation was mentioned, during the last game.
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
@Lake Forest, Its amazing that your still alive!
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:31 am
@Lake Forest, If I would have known, you’d still be recovering.
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Sebastian Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:31 am
@Lake Forest, we really enjoyed the “Clowe-sure” headline on the screen during one of the times they talked about it. pretty damn clever
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@Lake Forest,
that explains the increase spike in my Budweiser stock.
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Lake Forest Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@DesertKing, Easter day isn’t a day to deal with a hangover
I was mighty surprised at home Foxy was calling clowe “evil”…
Of course I agree, I was just surprised he needed to point it out.
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Lake Forest Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Lake Forest, home = how
Hangover still in affect.
Hipcheck Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Lake Forest, We should hook up for some South OC games watches….see the OC Kings fans page on facebook.
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Lake Forest Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@Hipcheck, Sweet. Just joined.
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Other than wanting our Kings to win the Cup, I am really hoping the Casucks lose the series for 2 reasons:
1. We don’t have to watch Burrows disrespect th Anthem until next season.
2. The rioting in Vancouver is very entertaining on the nightly news.
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jess Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@DesertKing, LOL
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If there was any doubt Carter was a reason for the late success of the Kings (if for no other reason than as a decoy), the last two games of the season could be a strong indication.
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:32 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, I feel the same way as well.
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Funny, the game before that we had a shutout……in fact, we went 2-1-2 in those 5 games. Just the last 2 count?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@Dominick (defrim65), The other three were against non-playoff teams. I would have thought that difference was apparent. BTW, I’m looking at 2-0-3, slightly better than you stated. Still, they were against Minnesota and Edmonton.
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Your right, it was 2-0-3. So everything before is null and void, and only the last 2 games count. Check.
ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Right on! IMO Carter was a no show way to often. The second line had spurts of chemistry but really lacked the kind of fire power that I figured. What ever happens I just hope the casucks are still focused on trying to shut carter down cause the flood gates for Kopi are about to open!!!
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If Penner plays, then he plays. I just want Carter back out there because honestly, Penner wasn’t doing that bad when Carter was playing. Not saying i like Penner at all.
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Hey I live in San Jose and I don’t get cable or any kind of television and I’m assuming that it will be blacked out on gamecenter so I was wondering if anyone knows where I can watch the games or if anyone is watching it and wants to let me join. I’m new to the area so I don’t know any kings fans up here. Thanks a lot
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Gustavo Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:44 am
@Ashykon,
See what happens when you leave civilization?
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DesertKing Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@Ashykon,
Just do what everyone else there does – CHEAT and bootleg a stream through your computer or cable system
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Ashykon Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:54 am
@DesertKing, may I ask how?
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
@Ashykon, email me and I will hook you up. jrosene28@gmail.com
tornado12 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Ashykon, email me and we can figure something out for ya
tornadotweleve@gmail.com
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Ashykon Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
@tornado12, That email didn’t work
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Whays the latest on Gagne?
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Hyearch Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:40 am
@Hyearch, *What’s
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I have a feeling that we will win this series…
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
@Jack, Thanx…I needed that. (John Belushi, Animal House)
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As a man, I feel bad for what Penner must be going through with his divorce. But this is hockey and DS cannot allow personal problems affect on ice performance. In uniform right now Penner is useless and a major liability against Vancouver. At this point I would much rather see Westgarth play in his place
Last season Westgarth and Clifford gave the Sharts nighmares, scored goals and beat the pulp out of them. I hope DS makes the move.
Try Nolan with Stoll and Lewis in the third line. Even if they do not score much, we can roll two serious bottom energy and punishing lines (3rd & 4th)
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nykingfan Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@Gustavo,
I don’t think you can take a chance of putting Westy back in the lineup now. He’s been out so long I can’t see any way he can keep up…
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@Gustavo, All this Penner agst. Penner might not be putting up points, but playing Westy 4 minutes instead, isn’t the answer. Penner has done one thing well, and that’s provide puck possession for his line and solid outlet passes. That line hasn’t been outplayed by the opposition, they just haven’t taken advantage.
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@Gustavo, I hear ya loud and clear. Don’t think it’s going to happen yet. The key word being yet. DS knows what he’s doing and I thin Pens will get a fair shake to prove his worth in game one. If he skates like Nancy Kerrigan then my guess is he sits in game two. I would also like to see if he can get his arse in gear because if were going to win the cup we will need Penner AND the three stooges line to pick it up!!!
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King Alex Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
@ILLEGALSTICK33, That’s not fair to Nancy Kerrigan. She is a terrific skater. She just needs to be heavier on her stick and finish her checks better!
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@King Alex,
Is it just me, or is Nancy totally hot?
ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
@King Alex, NICE! Can she still skate? After she got knee capped by that crazy lady I thought it was curtains? To bad we couldn’t hire such a woman to led pipe Mr.Clowe!
King Alex Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
@ILLEGALSTICK33 & @Dominick (defrim65), Nancy was pretty hot Dom & Clowe would loose a fight hands down to Tanya Harding ILLEGALSTICKS33. She would beat his azz!!!
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Amazing news!
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Please for the love of everything holy, keep Brad Richardson and scratch Penner. He is awful and does nothing!
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Please for the love of everything holy, keep Brad Richardson and scratch Penner. He is awful and does nothing!
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
@cac90277, Holy double post batman!
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I wouldnt mind Penner is he finished his checks…he would be an asset in that case even if not scoring but his shying away from physical play in conjunction with zero offensive output and slow foot speed makes him a liability.
Hope he turns it on the playoffs though…
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ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@Hipcheck, “shying away from physical play in conjunction with zero offensive output and slow foot speed makes him a liability”
LOL! This is not good for a multy million dollar pro hockey player
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I cant wait to see what Goalie we Keep..Now I like both goalies but i dont like Kings Fans bashing either one…
Two great goalies and we now fighting which one better….
Bernier has alot of shot to become number 1 not Quick Fault that Bernier hasnt show what he can do…
Quick came in and take number 1…Bernier needs to do that to become what he wants…Its plain and simple..
U dont like Quick then oh well get over it…U can say what u want its never going to change a thing…Dean has seen what Quick can do…That why he trust in his Head coach because he seen the same thing as Dean..So what Bernier got drafted 1st in 2006.Doesnt mean he the best in the world..
Quick in top of the league as long with Lundqvist.Bernier hasnt gotten there..Yea he didnt play alot of games this year but when he was in net..He let soem goals that he should of saved but didnt.Bernier needs to know how to play when he a backup goalie to over come Quick for a starter goalie..Maybe in the preseason next season he learn to steal it..
So what am saying leave Quick alone not his fault and no he doesnt choke in the playoffs.He cant save Cross ice passes all the time…He cant save 2 on 1 all the time…He cant save impossibles shots all the time…
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Interesting:
Penner v. Vancouver: 4GP 1G 0A 1P -1 2PIMs 8 SOG
Richardson v. Vancouver: 2GP 1G 0A 1P +2 2PIMs 7 SOG
Their splits are almost identical except for one, and that’s a big one in this series. Richardson’s speed has kept him from being a liability defensively against a fast Vancouver team.
I think what it comes down to is this: Which Penner shows up? We’ve seen him give flashes, at times, of going back to the player we thought he could be. There are times when he’s made a move on the ice with the puck that make me want to believe in him, because I’ve not seen many guys his size have hands as good as his. The problem is effort, something which Brad Richardson never short-changes his team.
So, do you want the speedier, tireless Brad Richardson who doesn’t have a lot of skill, or do you want the slow, but massive body in the corner with Penner? I seem to remember that when Penner was with the Ducks, he had a different gear in the playoffs, and that’s what caused Edmonton to throw that ridiculous contract his way.
Plus, hate it as we might, he was a key player in the Ducks winning the Cup, something which Brad Richardson cannot say.
I break them down head to head this way:
Skill: Penner
Potential: Penner
Cup winner: Penner
Size: Penner
Speed: Richardson
Effort: Richardson
Heart/Grit: Richardson
Bottom line, I think Sutter gives Penner ONE game to prove himself. I think Sutter likes the possibility of a big guy like Penner (who has a lot to prove) throwing his weight around and wearing down Vancouver’s defense. After that, all bets are off.
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
@KingMe20, I pointed this out last night, but the Kings finished the last 1/4 of thw season with a 72% winning percentage.
What I didn’t point out is that Penner played all those games. Why all of a suidden does everyone want to chuck it all out the window, and start experimenting now?
If it ain’t broke, then why attempt to fix it?
I think the last 2 games have created wide spread panic.
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KingMe20 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
@Dominick (defrim65),
I agree with that. Once Carter came on board, the guys on the third line finally fell into place, because they weren’t being asked to play outside of their role. That’s why I think Penner will remain in the lineup, but I think the margin of error for him will be slim.
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Just got the line on Jonathon Quick’s final numbers. 1.95 GAA and a 930 save%. Wow, this guy is horrible! What a choke artist! he’s the second coming of Evgeni Nabakov!
Lets dump this loser while we can, and put a fundamentally superior goalie like Bernier in! I think its a no brainer, how bout you?
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
@puck73, this si the best news ever! LOL
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Dominick (defrim65) Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@puck73, Would be funny except that there are already posters suggesting that.
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petemagoop Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@puck73, 5 or 6 million dollarish?
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Shotongoal Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@puck73, I think Quick deserves the Vezina, hands down. He IS the reason the Kings are a playoff team this season. With that said, I am now hoping that his playoff performance also rises as the rest of his game did this season. Great goaltenders win their teams a Cup and this playoff season is his first real chance to become that type of goalie. It may not happen this season but, I sure hope that progression in him starts with these playoffs. This playoff season is also a chance for other Kings veterans, Kopitar Brown Doughty, to start showing that they can be great playoff players. No matter what happens in these playoffs, I will be happy if these guys show they are ready to be playoff leaders of this team. That would make the next 5 years of Kings’ playoff hockey very interesting!
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King Alex Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
@puck73, We should trade both Quick & Bernier for LaBarbera. LaBarbera can be LaBarBetter thsnk both if only given the chance!
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bbb7 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@puck73, But Quick was only 0-2-1 in day games, with a 2.34 GAA, so he has to go! :p
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puck73 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@bbb7, lol
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Duncanz Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
@purge73
Best post of the day!
Signed, the silent quiet majority ~
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To me it seems like the effectiveness of the Stoll, Lewis, Penner line depends on Penner’s play. When he’s on top of his game like he was before the last several games, that line was cycling the puck well, had good possession time in the offensive zone and generated some good scoring opportunities. The last few games, Penner seems to have lost his edge and that line has been invisible… Then again, I suspect if one of three forwards on any line is takings shifts off, the line is not likely to be particularly effective…
More than that in the last two games (mostly in the 3rd period of the last game), the thing that was most aggravating to me was the constant ragging of the puck deep in the defensive. No break outs with any speed, no forecheck… Bad, boring hockey…
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The biggest reason I think this round against the ‘Nucks will be different than the last is because of DS. He actually makes in game adjustments, and changes his strategy and approach to fit the situation. Add to that that we have Richards, Carter, VV, and Mitchell, I think we have a great chance to pull an upset in this one.
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@California Royalty, I like the chemistry on the 4th line now – plan ‘B’ if there is one
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petemagoop Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@petemagoop, good grief, don’t know how this post ended up down here, but you get the message
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This is gonna be good and I’m totally stoked our Kings are in the playoffs!!Sutter has a lot of coaching experience and I think the boys will come out “fizzing”.Score first,no unnecessary penalties and work like men posessed.
Can someone tell me please if we are done with shootouts now and will skate sudden death overtimes?I see this as an advantage for the Kings as we have not been good in shootouts lately.
Whatever,luongo can be beat high ,glove side-espescially from outside a little bit[Carters favorite spot]GKG!!
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fsd1 Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@dodgervern, shootouts are done, sudden death overtime in 20 min increments.
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