To be honest, there’s not a lot of wisdom in attempting to identify exactly where or how last night’s game turned. It was a one-off, a wild, ridiculous game, one that doesn’t really fit within the overall narrative of the Kings’ season. The Kings scored four power-play goals. They don’t do that. They allowed three power-play goals. They don’t do that. They gave up a third-period lead, not once but twice. They don’t do that. They had to deal with a player reaching off the bench to play the puck. Nobody, presumably, has ever had to deal with that. It was an intense, unpredictable game. Both teams found out, early in the game, that they had clinched playoff spots, but they still went all-out in an attempt to push for the Pacific Division title. If Phoenix should lose to St. Louis in regulation tonight, the Kings and Sharks will indeed play for the division title on Saturday night in San Jose. It’s tough to imagine that game being any crazier. What was the key aspect of the Kings’ 6-5 shootout loss to the San Jose Sharks? I present three options at the link below, and you can vote for your choice…
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For those who enjoy the traditional game recap, it can be found by clicking here.
The obvious turning point in the game was Quicks stupid penalty with a 2 goal lead. I remember screaming at my TV for Quick to stay in the net. he has no business coming out in that situation with so much forechecking pressure coming at him. he could cough up the puck, or get tangled up with the dman and forechecker and fall, get hurt, etc. after that, he could not really recover and was not the quick we are used to. having said that, the save he made on boyle in OT was HUGE! Kings have to shake this one off and win in San Jose.
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fsd1 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:26 am
@Sebastian, you mean the tiny push that sent the obviously 18 pound players flying into the back of the net? A dive to go along with all the other crap SJ did? That wasnt the turning point, I say it was not going on another 5 on 3 when it was obvious we should have.
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EasyBob Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@Sebastian, The refs made bad call afer baad call and some none calls that effected the outcome of the game. Too bad in such an meaningful game. I was there I know.
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EasyBob Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:46 am
@EasyBob, It all started when we were up 3 – 1 and the refs wanted to even things up and gave SJ a power play for nothing.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:18 am
@Sebastian, I agree. If Quick stays in his net, we keep the momentum, go up 4-1, and the whole tempo of the game changes.
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Riley Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 11:13 am
@Sebastian, Quick barely touched him. But, if Ryane Clowe didn’t touch the puck we would’ve had a 3-on-1. Plus, if the refs called a penalty, which they should have according to rule 56.3, we would’ve had a 5-on-3 for a minute
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The Kings should never have lost this game..grow up Kings and start putting your stamp on the league!
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petemagoop Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:06 am
@KOHO, thumbs up
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Other because it was really all of the above.
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There was a game last night?????
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KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair) Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:53 am
@Lake Forest,
Yeah. Skelleftea lost to AIK 2-1. Bud Holloway with the lone goal. Series tied 3-3. Game 7 tomorrow so try not to miss it.
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Lake Forest Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:01 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair), As long as it wasnt a WNBA game I am ok with this news………….
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Quick is amazing, no doubt. However. last night was not his night… Not to mentioned STUPID penalties – We spent almost a 3rd of the game a man short.
I am thinking we will be seeing St Louis in the first round… Hope I eat crow saying that!
For whatever reason it seems like the cheating Sharts always find a way to beat us, while we always find a way to give a way the game. (PLAYOFFS 2011)
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:29 am
@KingsGuy, i agree..Kings tend to choke the lead…3-1 could of been easily winnable,but we know the true Kings that does this…
I kinda knew the Kings going to lose..Because what the night they were suppose to do..Honor the fans for what horrible season they give us to watch when they werent doing what they have been doing lately..
so the end the season as we use to see a lost.
Lets hope the real Kings win it at San Jose..
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PRMan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
@KingsFanFTW, So tonight, let’s get back to our game and show how it’s done.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
@PRMan, yup get back on ur feet and move forward….Win tomorrow and last night game will be nothing
the lost because kings failure to defend the lead right..
Lets hope they can win it tomorrow..Sharks should not win the title after last night game
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tornado12 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@KingsFanFTW, agreed. the rest is just sideshow stuff and were minor details. I hope JQ comes up big next game (as he usually does after a subquicklike performance) and proves the doubting toms and negative nancys that he can play big in big games!
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Riley Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 11:14 am
@tornado12, I agree, watch him get a shutout
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At this point I don’t care how we finish it’ll be awesome either way. In fact, I would almost like finishing 8th and having the underdog factor motivate us. With that said, DS should sit some key players because it’s not worth them getting hurt on Saturday. But also that puts KW in C[lowe]oward’s face. Let that POS break his hand in a fight with Westie.
Some inspiration…..aaahhh
http://youtu.be/1lbqGlKcbOw
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PRMan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:39 am
@Spanky, Playing Chicago with home ice advantage would be the easiest path. Also, let Vancouver or St. Louis get beat up by the Sharks or Coyotes or Detroit/Nashville first. 7th or 8th gets us 1 or 2 rounds. 3rd gets us a legitimate chance at the Cup.
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The pk didn’t come through last nite and
The kings let the sharks back in the game
They need to want it more and fight harder.
Let’s just hope for a STL. Win then will see what
Happens sat.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
@Wrf4Kings, St. Louis wants #1 seed so tonights game should be good..
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It was just one of those games like the March 9th letdown in Detroit. I fully know that our KINGS will come back like they did two days later in Chicago and, as such, will win in the land of CHEATERS on Saturday night.
The Blues Brothers will win tonight and we will destroy the CHEATERS on Saturday. We will win the Pacific Division.
(The hockey Gods do have ways of dealing with Cheaters…fate is a big player in turning the tide).
Leave it all on the ice boys!
GKG!!!!
WE BELIEVE!!!!!!
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Go crazy folks, go crazy!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/sharks-ryane-clowe-receives-no-supplemental-discipline-playing-162421687.html
NO DISCIPLINE.
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DesertKing Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Yep, glorifying cheating in a professional sport. Nice job NHL.
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simiarnie Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
@DesertKing, To bad he didn’t chop the stick out of clowe’s hand. The ref’s would have had to explain the extra stick on the ice.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
According to the rule that Rich posted in the earlier thread, the penalty for interfering from the bench is only a minor, nothing more than too many men on the ice. This is far more ridiculous and literally is cheating intentionally, where as too many men penalties are generally accidents or miscommunications, but apparently the NHL thinks they deserve the same penalty: a two minute minor.
Would you expect a suspension for a missed too many men call? I wouldn’t either…
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Duncanz Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
I did not see the game last night, but I just rolled out of bed, flicked on the iPad, and your’s is the first post I’ve looked at.
LMAO & ROTFL !!!!
Loved the bogus ‘Onion’ story and the doctored photo along with it was a crackup!!
Wouldn’t it be a riot if something like this could actually possibly occur in the NHL?!!
The Kings’ blog would be blowing up like Vesuvius right about now!!!
Great gag & thanks for posting!
You’re such a kidder, @Bako!!!!
Ha ha ha ha haaaa …
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Was at the game last night and I actually didn’t know what happned with the Clowe thing until I got home. I was in a premier seat on the side it took place so the boards blocked my view of it. Fun game to be at. Was exactly like a playoff game atmosphere.
I’ll be interested to see what the league does with this because this is clearly an open challenge to the games integrity.
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SLG1013 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:48 am
@KC23, In the LA Times this morning, an NHL official was quoted as saying it was “a missed call”. Based on that, I’d be surprised if Clowe even gets a fine, much less a suspension…
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tacomakingsfan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:05 am
@KC23,
I honestly doubt they’ll do anything. Just imagine if this happened to let’s say the Penguins, Philly or Rangers? Heads would definitely roll!
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I know that many (including myself) say you should never blame a game on officiating, that if the team takes care of its own business, it will prevail. However, in this game, there were so many blatantly bad calls (Quick’s penalty, Kopi’s phantom trip, the Clown stick, etc.) that resulted in critical turning points, that even I can’t say that the Kings would have been able to win it if you just took care of business. You can only kill so many penalties, especially against the top PP unit in the league. SJ players have perfected the “dive,” so that they can draw penalties and score on PP’s. On Quick’s penalty, before he even touched Clowe, A SJ player ran him into the boards. Where was the call? Of course Quick got mad. He knows it was a penalty, everyone in the stadium knew it was a pebnalty, but where was the call? I know, the refs were looking for someone giving Niemi a snow shower at the other end. NO, this one you can chalk up to good old fashioned enabling by a poorly trained, unprofessional officiating crew who were afraid to take SJ to task for their dirty, diving, cheating style of play. Thanks Bettman. Oh, in a sense of fairness, great PP effort by the Kings last night and if Kompon had anything to do with it (gulp), then I would have to apologize to him even though he still needs to be gone at the end of the season.
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Doughty fought. That doesn’t happen.
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Other.
They lost because they couldn’t keep the trash out of Quick’s line of sight. SJ did a fantastic job of blocking JQ’s view of the puck from the second period on. Yeah, the refs sucked but whats new? They’ve sucked in every game, all year long.
Lets hope they harness the hatred and angst from last night, wrap it up mature box, and put a professional arse kicking bow on top Saturday.
GKG!
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I picked “Other” (Full Moon)
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As usual, I voted ‘other’. It should have been a $7Mil fine, payable to the Kings to go towards DD’s salary, and a 10 year suspension for the Clown stick!
Oh wait … am I on the wrong page … ?
signed, @DessertKing ~
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DesertKing Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
@Duncanz,
You finally got one wrong! I fully supported DD for $7mil (especially since I wear a #8 jersey). I would also support Clowe receiving the Hanson Borthers Bench treatment, since the wimpy NHL isn’t going to do anything about it
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Duncanz Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:58 am
@DesertKing,
But, don’t you see ?!
I have hit upon a better way to support DD’s fully justified, well negotiated, exorbitant salary than just buying a piddly jersey!
More credit is due this budding eminence …..
….. or I’ll never be able to compete with that @Jeff_R character for world’s greatest purveyor of poopaganda !
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Here’s the thing guys. While the Clowe play sucked, was bush league and classless, the Kings fell apart when they could not kill that penalty late in the 2nd. Quick was in his own head and the team needed to rally around him and kill that penalty. Instead they played a soft penalty kill resulting in a nice tip from Thorton, starting the inevitable snowball effect that occurred. The Kings went on to play Sharks hockey instead of Kings hockey that was working brilliantly until the late penalty. In fact, as soon as the penalty was called, I told my fiance that the Kings were going to lose the game if they didn’t kill the penalty, even though they were up by 2. The reason why I felt this way is because all of us Kings fans have seen this movie before. The players have got to mature and not let these little things get to them, especially against a hated rival like the Sharks. Yes the officiating is horrendous and has been for ALL western conference teams not named Detroit all year. It’s not fair to the players or the fans to have to get the D League rejects as NHL officials just because the good ones don’t want to travel. Regardless of that, the boys need to man up and get past their immaturity. Otherwise, we will be looking at another meltdown in the first round all over again. Last night should be placed solely on the shoulders of the players. No amount of whining will get you a win in this league, unless of course you play for Vancouver or Pittsburgh.
Just my two cents.
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dMan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am
@Kristie, Great points
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
@Kristie, As mad as I was last night, you couldn’t be more correct about everything you posted there.
In a nutshell, San Jose dragged the Kings into the only type of game they had a chance of winning last night and the Kings bit the hook and got beat. We should see it as both a compliment and a learning experience. If we play disciplined, responsible hockey we are simply a better team than the Sharks, and the Sharks are aware of that.
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However this turns out the Sharks after losing in the first round can watch us play in the second round from their homes.
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Report from San Jose Mercury News saying Clowe won’t face punishment.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair),
No big surprise. The rules don’t spell out anything.
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petemagoop Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:09 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair), http://www.mercurynews.com/sharks/ci_20340877/sharks-ryan-clowe-not-facing-punishment-interfering-puck
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KC23 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair), Yep, just considered a missed call on the ice by the refs.
I would imagine it would be a pretty nasty black mark against thoses refs by those that score how they do. That was an embarrassing blown call to the league and not exactly hidden from the play.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:21 am
@KC23,
Some bad press and a “minor” black eye for the league. It’ll get brushed under the carpet.
The best retribution? Kings beat down on the Sharks Saturday. A Kings loss will be a difficult pill to swallow.
Make it up on the ice, Kings. Show some character.
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dMan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
@KingsNewsDaily (formerly wavesinair), the league expects the vast majority of players have more integrity than Clowe and that this behavior won’t become habitual. But hey, if it’s only a two minute minor (if caught) why not toss your stick out there on an odd man rush?
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Mike C Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
@dMan,
I agree. Now it becomes an actual “strategy”. Coach to players: “Keep an eye out for an odd man rush, if you see it, toss the stick. It’s only 2 minutes. You get to keep your integrity because the league ALLOWS that.”
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
@dMan,
Interesting. If you throw your stick on a breakaway, that’s a penalty shot, but if you take a whack at someone on a breakaway from the bench, that’s a two minute minor? How about if you throw your stick from the bench at the player on the breakaway? Two minute minor?
This is ridiculous. The league is absilutely impotent if they don’t even bother to address this.
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Rich you had a BUSY night to say the least,, thanks for all your hard work once again on behalf of all us KINGS fans. I think we’re gonna win the Pacific Division on Saturday and shove it down Clowe’s gaping JAWS!!!
Go KINGS Go!!
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dMan Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:17 am
@FabKings, Unless Phoenix wins both their games…
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FabKings Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:42 am
@dMan, I think St Louis will take care of them tonight, as for Minnesota? Anything could happen there.
My KINGS playoff glass is always half full, I’ve gotta keep on the positive side.
Go KINGS Go!!
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The Kings need to be a little arrogant to really be elite and succeed. Like Boston, like Pittsburgh, like Vancouver, and “obviously” like San Jose. That doesn’t take a “learning curve”, it takes more balls.
It’s why nice guys don’t win.
Time to give the Sharks some of their own medicine for a change.
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Onetimer1966 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:17 am
@Kingsfanone, Agree, Fair play does not win, in life and in hockey, Unfortunately.
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Funny how I haven’td anything on about Clowe’s unsportmanlike/cheating on nhl.com.
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KC23 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
@CPMC29, Just another blown call by the refs is all it will be called.
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Weasel Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:36 am
@CPMC29,
That was the game right there. A penalty would have given the Kings a short (but still enough time to set up) 2 man advantage at that point.
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With a Phoenix loss, all we need to do is win the next game….
Water under the bridge, let’s focus on the game saturday and beat the crap out of them and still win the division
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Weasel Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
@Lake Forest,
If Clowe doesn’t get called out by the league office this is such an embarrassment to the league in general. So unprofessional.
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Lake Forest Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@Weasel, I think we are all on the same page, but it’s not our decision and it’s out of our hands….
Let’s just concentrate. if we win, then we can always say we won even when the sharks cheated.
I’m ok with that. I would feel worse if it was our player who did that.
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I need a Jeff Carter update Rich after the Kings blew that game last night. So annoying.
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Since the league won’t do anything…what do you all think about the Sharks coach sending a message?
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Duncanz Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:37 am
@Daren, He was just relieved that a Shark’s stick finally created havoc on the ice for a change instead of knocking him senseless on the noggIn !
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Let’s put things in perspective; the Clowe stick incident may or may not have altered the score and the uneven refereeing may have been annoying, but in any case, the team needs to learn to deal better with adversity.
Look at the positives; Doughty fought! Kings scored 5 goals, PP did well
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Well at least the Sharks didn’t get a ROW win. We still have a chance of winning the Pacific if Phoenix looses tonight.
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Since the way the rule is written say that interference from someone on the bench is nothing more then a 2 minute penalty, I say, if the Kings have a nice cushion in the 3rd period of a lead, they should wait for a Sharks outnumbered attack and send someone off the bench and tackle a Sharks player.
I really believe maybe someting like that will wake this league up, and they will realze that the rule has to be re written in the off season. To me, Clowe should be suspended for 7 games(A series) and the organization should be hit in the wallet extremely hard. To do nothing about something that kids are taught at an early age is flat out disgraceful sends a message to other fans of other sports that the NHL is a bottom feeder compared to The NFL, MLB, and the NBA.
As you have already seen, a guy like Roger Goodell would have made Ryan Clowe and the Sharks pay dearly for this kind of act.
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DesertKing Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:43 am
@puck73,
Amen!
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Duncanz Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@puck73,
7 game suspension and a welterweight hit to the wallet?
Dude, why do you have to lowball everything?!!
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King Alex Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@puck73, I agree completely. Bettman has no class or sense of sportsmanship & he is no leader of this league. How do you think the league would have reacted if it happend to the beloved Penguins & Crosby & the call was missed on the ice by the 4 blind mice?
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We need to get used to cheaters and bad refs. It’s playoffs. Just play better
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This probably sounds harsh, and I still think that Quick should at least be a finalist for the Vezina, but I it’s possible that he lost a chance to win it last night. I know that he’s probably not concerned about that more than he is about losing to the Sharks and not putting the team in a better position to win the division, but his performance last night will most likely knock him down in the eyes of the GMs who will vote for the winner.
I’m guessing that GMs were probably going to tune into Quick’s final games to see for themselves whether or not he’s better than Lundqvuist this year. And if they were on the fence before last night, they may have found reasons to go with Lundqvuist instead.
I don’t think it would be fair if that’s how it goes down because one game shouldn’t damage his entire body of work this season, which as been stellar. But, the reality is his team scored 5 goals for him but they still lost to a division opponent who they are trying to beat for the division championship. And one of his undisciplined plays led to a penalty that led to a momentum changing goal.
I say he shuts out San Jose tomorrow to get back into real contention for the Vezina.
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KC23 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:43 am
@vplaza, Don’t like it, but I also believe Quick may have lost the Vezina last night.
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vplaza Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:55 am
@KC23,
After the tying goal at 3-3, I told my wife that he probably lost his chance to win it. Then, giving up 5 goals in regulation, plus the goal he let in during the SO probably sealed it.
And what is it with our SO shooters this year? With the game on the line, Kopi shoots it right into the glove of the goaltender? At least Brownie seemed close after seeing the replays, but man, it seems like when we get into SO, we might as well give the other team the extra point.
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BringbackButchGoring Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am
@vplaza, In all honesty, as good as Quick been this year, Lundqvuist has as good or better so would also deserve the Vezina. Plus the Eastern Conference is much more wide open so a bit harder to have a GAA under two.
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vplaza Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@BringbackButchGoring,
Yes, I wouldn’t want to take anything away from Lundqvuist. He has been exceptional this year as well.
Just wanted to say that before last night’s game, there seemed to be some real interest outside of LA in Quick and him winning the Vezina. So, unfortunately, with more interest in him and probably more GMs watching closely, his performance may have cost him any chance he had of winning the award. As unfair as that sounds since he has been the main reason the Kings are in the playoffs at all.
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So basically with no punishment to Clowe:
Now it becomes an actual “strategy”. Coach to players: “Keep an eye out for an odd man rush, if you see it, toss the stick. It’s only 2 minutes. You get to keep your integrity because the league ALLOWS that.”
Nice job, NHL.
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Besides clowe. What about those dives or was it a trip and bad hit from
Clifford and Kopi?
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Goodspeedlem Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@Goodspeedlem, quick?
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I don’t blame Quick for taking the penalty. He got run once on that play and it looked like he was going to get run again, so he put his blocker up. I was rather surprised to see it called.
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vplaza Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:52 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
He may have been upset, but I don’t think he should be taking things into his own hands like that. Maybe he was thinking that their PK would bail him out, but in a situation like this, with the division championship on the line, you keep those emotions in check, like he has all season long. Maybe he thought a 3-1 lead was good enough to take one.
And the other penalties were dumbfounding. Scuds throwing the puck out of play. Brownie reaching around the player in OT to grab him. Gotta play smarter than that.
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KC23 Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Love Quick, but he let his emotions get the better of him. It was a bad play on Quick’s part and it didn’t surprise me at all he got called. I had a great view of it from my seat and I would of been surprised had they not called it.
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Here’s a link to contact the NHL officials/executive board:
http://www.nhlofficials.com/contact.asp
Everyone needs to bombard them with emails!
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Marbles Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:47 am
@Marbles,
**NHL Officials Association
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I voted other…Like I posted before…we got suckered into their game….We forgot that our strength is our defense and we got a bit porous. Also, the lack of a calming time out when we were up again…to reset the thought process…They werent scoring 5 on 5, so we should have dealt with the game a bit differently.
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I knew the Kings were going to lose when I saw Doughty slam his stick on the ice as hard as he could after the no-call for the Clowe incident, because then I knew they were not going to shake that off. Also, the kings lost in the fight department 3-0 and that may have also been a turning point for the next game because they may now be intimidated by the Sharks
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Other: same crap different year. Kings always find a way to let down the fans.
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Even though the Kings regained and expanded the lead, the turning point in the game, happened shortly before the 1st goal by San Jose, the Kings for 5 or 6 minutes had the Sharks hemmed into their own zone, chasing, the puck, and couldn’t expand the lead, when they finally got a stoppage in play, it was a media TO, and the Sharks, seemed to catch their breath collectively, and began to play a much more even game, starting with a shot, and a rebound goal to tie the game at 1. If the Kings has a 2 or 3 goal lead in the 1st period while they are out shooting the Sharks 18-3, they never give up that lead, no matter what happened in the playoffs last year.
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