Last night, I posted the basics of when the Kings would be able to clinch a playoff spot, etc. If you want to go (way, way) more in depth, Kings communications-staff guru Jeremy Zager has passed along the following breakdown of exactly what could happen on Thursday, Friday and Saturday and what it means for the Kings. Read carefully. The exam will be at noon. No cheat sheets.
Kings magic number to clinch a playoff spot is one.
The Kings can clinch a playoff spot Thursday by one of the following ways:
—A Dallas loss (in regulation, overtime or shootout) vs. Nashville OR
—A Kings win or loss in overtime/shootout vs. San Jose
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The Kings can clinch at least the seventh seed in the Western Conference Thursday by one of the following ways:
—A Kings regulation win Thursday vs. San Jose. (This would give the Kings 95 points and mean the Sharks could only get a maximum of 94 points.)
—A Kings win in overtime Thursday vs. San Jose. (This would give the Kings 95 points and mean the Sharks could only get a maximum of 95 points. However this would give the Kings the tie-breaker in the ROW category: Kings would have 35 ROWs and San Jose could only get 34.)
—If the Kings win in a shootout Thursday vs. San Jose – this wouldn’t clinch the 7th seed. Here’s why: This would give the Kings 95 points and mean the Sharks could only get a maximum of 95 points. The Kings would still have 34 ROWs and San Jose could still potentially get 34 ROW. The next tie-breaker is head-to-head points. In this scenario the Kings would have 7 head-to-head points (3-1-1) and the Sharks would have 5 head-to-head points (2-2-1). San Jose could then win in regulation Saturday to force the third tie-breaker. Both teams would now have 34 ROWs and 7 head-to-head points (both teams would be 3-2-1 vs. each other). The third tie-breaker is goal differential. Right now the Kings are a +17 and San Jose is a +16. If the Kings win in a shootout Thursday the Kings would then be a +18, while San Jose would be +15. Meaning the Sharks would have to win in regulation Saturday by two-or-more goals. So here is the bottom line if the Kings win a shootout Thursday vs. San Jose: The only way the Sharks could overtake the Kings is to win in regulation Saturday by at least two goals.
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The soonest the Kings could potentially clinch the Pacific Division is Friday. Here’s how: A Kings regulation/overtime win Thursday vs. San Jose, and a Phoenix loss in regulation Friday at St. Louis. This would give the Kings 95 points and 35 ROWs. Phoenix could then only get a maximum of 95 points and 35 ROWs. The Kings own the third tie-breaker (head-to-head points).
That last thing could actually happen!
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:50 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Why do I have a feeling it will?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:09 am
@mrbrett7, Looks like perhaps a 60/40 chances to me.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:12 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
So you’re saying there’s a chance?
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Yeah, I’m guessing about 75% chance of each occurring: a Kings home win in regulation and a Phoenix loss in St Louis. .75 * .75 = .5625…not far off 60/40 (some of the statistics I actually remember from engineering school.) Could be as low as 50/50, I suppose, but the odds men put both games in our favor.
370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:25 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, This has nothing to do with this comment however there was a request much further down the page to define ROW’s and I figured it would be better done at the beginning of the thread.
A ROW is a “Regulation or Overtime Win”
It is a way to take the shootout wins out of the equasion.
Hope this helps.
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rumpa#19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@370455VinSD, Love your logo,DK or C jerks would be cool too.
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Anjin Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, is it odd that they only team in the current top 8 I don’t want to face are the Red Wings?
I actually feel pretty good about playing anyone else right now but could you image a 7 game series against St Louis? All games would 1-0 triple OT and go 7
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KingKaz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@Anjin, — The Red Wings aren’t the only ones for us to worry about, you do NOT want to face Vancouver in the 1st round. That is a solid team, with balances offense and defense and TWO good goailies to boot! IMO the Red Wings, Preds, and Canucks, would be the most difficult 1st round match-ups for ANY team.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
@Anjin, there are some unfavorable matchups there–particularly in the first round. The Canucks are out to prove they are a different team than the one that chokes in the playoffs, and that this is their year. I’d rather play them after someone like–oh, Phoenix or San Jose–has softened them up a bit. Wouldn’t want to run into St Louis in the first round, either–it’s like when you start a bike ride and a dog chases you, and you don’t have any muscle strength for the rest of the ride because of all that adrenaline. Let someone else deal with that, or at least soften them up. The Preds will simply be tough and maybe even bore us all to death. Then there’s the Wings…the team you can beat for 57 minutes and lose to–that’s always been the way I saw them (same with the Avs.)
Chicago, however, seems beatable, and it’s not particularly like they have something to prove. They might even be feeling their own decline in some ways. I was a little surprised they actually made the playoffs. It’s a good first round opponent, who most people probably think are better than the Kings, so they shouldn’t have any problem preparing for it.
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Marc Nathan Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, not betting against Mike Smith at this point in time… Too hot.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
@Marc Nathan, Nope. Mike Smith and Jon Quick are among about four or five goaltenders no one would really like to face.
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Scott Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, This make tomorrow’s game a big big big one. Win and in. I’ll be really surprised if Smith lets in less than 2 goals against STL. And if the Kings can expose Niemi (one of the worst starting goalies in the league and a major reason why the Sharks are a bubble team this year) and protect the castle… then they could get a “night off” for the last game of the season and rest some key players (Quick, Doughty, Richards, Kopitar).
Win or go home boys! GKG!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@Scott, I’m counting on the big differences in the game being goaltending and the home crowd. When the Kings go up to the Pentium chip, they’ll have the crowd, and probably a 60/40 advantage. The Kings need to lay the wood to them in LA.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
If possible, crush their will.
Uhhhh, so winning Thursday would simplify things?
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@Weasel, I’d hope so. I was told there’d be no math …
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:34 am
@Duncanz, will there be beer? – HJS
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King Alex Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
@Stuart, By decree, there will ALWAYS be beer!!!! & Tequila Too!!
Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:01 am
@King Alex, awesome, I love hearing that song while I drink!! or were you talking about Tila? JK, I know none of us would ever talk about her!!!
you ever tried herradura seleccion suprema? pricey but so smooth… we bought ours in GDL and it was still almost 3 bills… not for shooting though, it’s a sipper.
tornado12 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
@Stuart, U mean to-kill-ya. Guaranteed hangover everytime
Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:15 am
@tornado12, not necessarily. only drink 100% agave and nothing that costs less than $20 a bottle (unless you’re mixing it)…
and never forget the godlen rule of imbiging: Liquor BEFORE beer – never hear, beer before liquor – never sicker… or some variation.
As FFF is fond of saying:
Cheers!
oh, and one more tequila tidbit: take a breath in through your mouth, take a drink, and then breath out through your nariz…
Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:16 am
@t12, *imbibing
King Alex Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:36 am
@Stuart, I’m a Cabo Wabo guy & I also like Patron with a beer chaser!!!
Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
@King Alex,I dont mind either of those, although Patron is pretty generic. my table tequila is Corralejo, it can be found anywhere…
chilling the shots takes a lot of edge of most tequilas too…
damn, I’m hankering for a drink now!!!
Kopi Bryant Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@Stuart, Since we are on the subject of tequila, Corralejo reposado (the blue bottle) is probably the smootheset I’ve ever had and I’ve had quite a few. Not that expensive either.
Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:00 am
@Kopi B, that’s the one! They have a triple distilled one, also blue bottle but it’s like a manhole cover, flat round thing. Also pretty smooth. and the price is usally right. Costco has a big bottle for around $40…
Kopi Bryant Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:46 am
@Weasel, *smoothest
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Dear Rich,
Please note Gary is not feeling well & won’t be at class today. I understand there is a test & am hoping you will allow him to write it next week when he’s back to school. bah-ha-ha..
The Math Is VERY simple…
JUST WIN!
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:00 am
@Duncz, signed Juan Epstein’s Motha! LOL
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am
@Stuart, Damn! It’s another one of those noonly exams, Mr Sut- taire !
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:16 am
@Duncanz, In your best Duncy ‘Boom Boom’ Washington!! handle your SC well before then please!
JGSmall Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:02 am
@Gary, In regulation.
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I’m ready for the exam Rich, if the Kings win both games vs. sharks then it doesn’t matter about any of those other games because they make the playoffs and clinch Division, got it.
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spidey35 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:32 am
@EASportsMgt, That’s how I feel. Don’t get me wrong, I want the point to make sure we get into the playoffs, but at the same time, I want to win both of those games to secure that top spot and maybe knock the sharks out.
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NOT IMPRESSED Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:08 am
@EASportsMgt, Not true. If the Kings win both games but at least one of them is a shoot out win and if Pheonix wins both their games, and neither win are a shoot out win, then Pheonix wins the division.
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EASportsMgt Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:10 am
@NOT IMPRESSED, I Should have clarified that if they win both games in Regulation, but an overtime win would also be welcomed.
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So the season could possibly come down to an aggregate situation??? I wonder how often that’s happened in the NHL?
just win and nothing else matters!
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Of topic…but after watching the Bos/NY game last night…you realize how important it is to have a good backup goalie. Turco is awful!
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:11 am
@Cruiznblue, thats why we always missed him in Dallas, we always lit it up with him in goal
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JureEe Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:18 am
@Cruiznblue, hehe
i hope that boston finaly realaze that.. i was wondering why they even sign him.. last time that he was playing in Austrian league… In that league are 2 Slovenian clubs too… So our Club Jesenice have big money trouble so they played almost all season with kids.. and Turbo lose against them if i remember correctly… He was so bad even on our LVL of playing…
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JureEe Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:19 am
@JureEe, Turco*… You need to find edit button…
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Paul M Hedberg Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am
@Cruiznblue, Bos.hosted PGH
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Steve W Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@Cruiznblue, He should never have left the NHL Tonight studios.
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Now, don’t forget about the 14-point spread…
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Jeff Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:10 am
@BobsYourUncle, Ridgemont High!
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16,005 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@BobsYourUncle,
You got any Earth Wind and Fire tickets?
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Get these two wins (I think SJ is vulnerable and we seem to have their number this season), rest Carter, go into the play-offs when we are peaking and then Carter comes back and voila, a season to remember with a silver lining at the end. GKG!!!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:36 am
@DesertKing, I think they’re vulnerable too. They haven’t exactly destroyed the competition the last few weeks the way the Kings and Phoenix have (glad to see they will be running into a buzz saw in the first round.)
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ForumFan Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
@DesertKing, Not sure about that. They did just beat the Stars back to back
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
@ForumFan, The first game against Dallas was similar to the Kings game a few games back, where Dallas rolled in around 3am after playing a tough game.
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The Kings are also 1-point away from having no draft selections in the first 110-120 picks.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:52 am
@FaceWash, I’m ok with that.
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spidey35 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:30 am
@FaceWash, Oh well, I can live with another year of no draft party.
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Off topic, it seems impossible for Boston to have the top 5 players in + – in the league. I doubt if that’s ever happened before.
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Weasel Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:20 am
@Happy Lappy,
Back in original six days it probably happened more than once – (just guessing)
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Happy Lappy Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:23 am
@Weasel, yeah, Montreal no doubt.
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HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:29 am
@Weasel, They didn’t keep that stat back in the day.
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PRMan Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
@Weasel, Nope. Because Alka Selzer Plus hadn’t invented the stat yet.
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
@PRMan, I need one of those the morning after every Macys’ Thanksgiving!
We need the wins and they have to be shutout wins to make sure Quickie gets the Vezina and Hart!
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
@King-C, I believe Malkin will get the Hart, although Quick might get nominated. Vezina should be Quick’s.
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Jody Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:51 am
@Jeff_R, NHL.com gives Quick the edge as of now on the Vezina.
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OnTheFly Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am
@King-C,
Quick should get:
Vezina Trophy: is an annual award given to the goalkeeper adjudged to be the best at this position as voted by the general managers of all NHL clubs.
Hart Memorial Trophy: is an annual award given to the player judged to be the most valuable to his team. The winner is selected in a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers’ Association in all NHL cities at the end of the regular season.
Lady Byng Memorial Trophy: is an annual award given to the player adjudged to have exhibited the best type of sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct combined with a high standard of playing ability.
Ted Lindsay Award: is presented annually to the “most outstanding player” in the NHL as voted by fellow members of the National Hockey League Players’ Association. The Lindsay Award is considered to be the companion of the Hart Memorial Trophy—thirteen players have won both trophies for the same season: Guy Lafleur, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Mark Messier, Brett Hull, Sergei Fedorov, Eric Lindros, Dominik Hasek, Jaromir Jagr, Joe Sakic, Martin St. Louis, Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin.
William M. Jennings Trophy: an annual award given to the goalkeeper(s) having played a minimum of 25 games for the team with the fewest goals scored against it. Winners are selected based on regular-season play.
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Lets make it simple, Kings. Just win. Choke the life out of the Sharts season. End them.
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So let’s say that the Kings beat the Sharks on Thursday and the Coyotes lose on Friday, and they finish 3rd. The next question becomes:
Who would you rather see the Kings play in the first round?
Nashville
Detroit
Chicago
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@Jeff_R, meet the new mega-mega-computer, @Jemm_Z.
Prepare to be decommissioned and dispatched to India, where you will end up on a 3 storey pile of used, similarly obsolete American tecnological hardware, where parts of you will be salvaged by little budding cricket players and train-roof riders.
Oh, and one more thing …
“Jeff, y’FIRED !!!”
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:31 am
@Duncanz, someone in SodiumChloride Loch will be happy with this news!
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:38 am
@Stuart, wrt that prospect… I would say, it’s a loch!
(check your ego at the door – of the taj mahal)
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@Duncanz, Oh goodie. Then I can go back to my annoying self and instead of stats and scenarios I can just tell about my life. Whoopie!!!!!
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:44 am
@Jeff_R, what does Ms. Goldberg have to do with any of this???
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:46 am
@Stuart, LOL
Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:14 am
@Stuart,
….. would that then equate to a ‘rube’ with a ‘view’ ?
(sorry, @Jeff_G)
I kinda like that the pressure is on everyone else, but they’ve still got plenty to play for. That, and having the last game Thursday and the last game of the season Saturday. If for some reason all the wrong teams win, it’ll happen before each Kings game ends.
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Helloooooo, how are ya. Those despicable schedule-makers in Taw-rawwwwn-to just helped us again!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:14 am
@Duncanz, I’m not sure it’s help. If the Kings were on the ropes, it would be sheer terror. Maybe that’s what they intended.
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, That goshdarn GB is a visionary after all !
In other words, for the Kings to MISS the playoffs:
Kings lose both remaining games to Sharks in regulation + Stars win both their remaining games + Coyotes get at least one point in their last two remaining games. Therefore:
Sharks = 96 pts / 35 ROW
Coyotes = 94 pts / 34 ROW
Stars = 93 pts / 37 ROW
Kings = 93 pts / 34 ROW
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Jody Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:52 am
@BallPointHammer, No way
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vplaza Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@BallPointHammer,
Stranger things have happened, so can’t discount the doomsday scenario completely.
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So let’s say the final part of the Sharks deal happens and the Kings and Sharks are tied. They are tied in ROW and in Season Series points, but what if the Sharks win Saturday with the score making them tied in Goal Differential? What is the next tie breaker after that?
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:41 am
@Jeff_R, straws…
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Jeff_R Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am
@Stuart, Ur on a roll S@Stuart. Should hit the Comedy Clubs Stat.
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:49 am
@Jeff_R, was that a reference to my distaste for birdwatchers??? grrrr! LOL
trytodethroneus Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 9:56 am
@Jeff_R,
In that case there could not be a tie in goal differential.
Going into Saturday’s game, the KINGS would be +18, the sharx +15
if sj won by 2 goals, they would +17, and the KINGS +16
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:02 am
@Jeff_R, the dreaded wishbone …
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bmova Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@Jeff_R, I didn’t see your question here and asked Rich below. May they flip a coin like in Friday Night Lights!
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vplaza Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@Jeff_R,
Rock, paper, scissors….best of seven.
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The Kings should just put all these scenarios away and WIN the final two games, and not worry about any other team. Finish the season on a high note. Do you think coach will play Bernier IF on Friday night the Pacific Division has already been clinched by the Kings?
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:32 am
@Carlsbad Kings Fan,
I would hope so. Just to give him some action and Quick a breather?
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KC23 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:13 am
@Carlsbad Kings Fan, No question about it. Bernier would be in goal. Whisky would likely play for Mitchell and Westgarth would be in for Williams perhaps. Forth line would play first line minutes. Third line would play 2nd line minutes and so on.
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:18 am
@KC23, Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@Stuart,
Gozer the Gozarian. Good evening!
bbb7 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@KC23, You have to consider that the final game would still be important to the other teams battling for 7 & 8 spots, and the Kings cannot just put a minor league squad on the ice and not care if they lose; the league and the other GMs would come down on them HARD. They could surely start Bernier and maybe rest a player like Mitchell or Williams or someone who is banged up, but wholesale changes wont fly.
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bluedon23 Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 4:33 am
@bbb7, if they clinch the division there is no reason why they should risk injury to their core players. Therefore the fourth line should get first line minutes. If the other team is still fighting for a place in the playoff race that means they will be playing desperate and or very physical. Can you imagine an injury to a star player. This scenerio isn’t necessary. Who cares who comes down hard on them or not
damn . . . just flippin win the next hockey game and everything else will take care of itself. i agree with ds . . . lets just get in to the dance
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:08 am
@rt16,
“Take your Darryl by the hand, ……… “
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
@Duncanz, do “You *chalypso* when you chicken”…at that dance?
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@Stuart, I wang chung in a daze, thinking about a …. ‘trophy’ ..
ForumFan Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:22 am
@Duncanz, Carts sighting in DS’s office…way down. 10:54 I think
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
@Duncz, even at your age?? careful, it may be the last chung you ever wang!
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I’ve been watching San Jose recently. They are simply not as good as the Kings. They have been playing better of late and always have an explosive offense and power play. But we should get AT LEAST one win. IMO.
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YooperSkip 24 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:34 am
@Steve, I agree, but I checked last nights box score and noticed that they rolled all four lines with the lowest time on any player at 11:00 minute range. Also, they got scoring from their secondary players last night. That my be why they got extra time, or maybe their secdondary players are getting hot. With the Kings able to roll all lines, the games should be barn burners. I think we can take both games, but they won’t be easy– they never are. GKG!!!
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KC23 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 11:20 am
@Steve, Sharks suck imho. They aren’t near the team they were last year. I’m concerned with not having Carther though. In the end the Shark’s forwards are perhaps better than ours, but our defense is definately better than theirs through all 6 players.
The biggest thing in our favor is Quick over Niemi. Another thing in our favor is rest these last two days. The Sharks played two pressure packed games home and home with the Stars and now travel to LA. We’re gonna have fresh legs and they simply won’t.
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Rich-
Please be sure to thank Jeremy, but the poor guy has TOO much time on his hands!! HA HA HAs
JUST WIN BABY (R.I.P. Al Davis)!!!
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DesertKing Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am
@Chuck,
Keep that flame lit in Oakland (until we move the team to the new Farmers Field).
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stilts19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@Chuck, Jeremy screwed up BIG TIME! He’s WRONG in his very first scenario!!! The Kings DO NOT clinch a playoff spot with only a single point! They need 2 points to clinch.
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stilts19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@stilts19, Ignore what I said above… I screed up! SJ is in 8th, NOT 9th, like I was thinking… Jeremy is, indeed, correct…
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Attention San Diegan Insiders: I’m planning on watching the Saturday game at Stout in downtown on 6th street, jut across the tracks from the back door of the House of Blues. I’d love to meet some of you in person.
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:02 am
@370455VinSD, it’s not a Jutes only party is it???
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370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:05 am
@Stuart, is that a “My Cousin Vinny” reference?
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am
@370455VinSD, IDK, if it is, I stumbled upon it. Wasn’t the karate kid in that movie?
370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:09 am
@370455VinSD, Totally, and his leg never got swept.
Lake Forest Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:28 am
@370455VinSD, PUT HIM IN A BODY BAG JOHNNY
370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am
@Stuart, By the way, what’s a “Jute”?
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:23 am
@370455VinSD, LOL, one of the germanic peoples who settled in GBR way back when @Duncz was only a wee bairn! They were from Jutland, of course.
just having some fun this morning… two days off makes homer…
370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:29 am
@370455VinSD, Awesome, the bar is actually owned by an Irishman and a guy from Vancouver, which makes it an Irish pub/hockey bar. Lots of ‘Nuck jerseys hanging from the ceiling but the clientelle is pretty well mixed throughout the league and pretty good natured to boot. Kind of an NHL neutral Switzerland.
Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
@Stuart, … sit around thinking about Vezina?
Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
@Duncz, amazing how many hours in the day that takes up!!
370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:45 am
@370455VinSD, I can’t do anything else! I’m trying to work but this is way more compelling.
ta Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
@Stuart, Are those Magic Grits
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stilts19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@370455VinSD, I’ll be down at The Stout (GREAT Irish pub/Hockey den) for the playoffs. I’ll be in town from April 14-18). I’ll be down there, with my Kopitar jersey on, watching the games. I’ll answer to “Stilts”. See you there!
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All you ever want is a chance to control your own destiny and the Kings somehow this season have salvaged that opportunity.
Don’t blow it now!!
Win and we’re in!
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370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:07 am
@KOHO, Isn’t that amazing? You go back a couple of months, hell even a month, and it would be like “I think we can do this but we will need some help”. This feels amazing. Rolling into the playoffs with momentum, who’d a thunk it?
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KOHO Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:13 am
@370455VinSD,
I keep shaking my head thinking about it! I hope the Kings have winning the Pacific as their goal..we haven’t seen that happen in 20 years!
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Steve Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:34 am
@KOHO, You know what else we havent seen? 10 shutouts in a season. The last time was 2000-2001, which was the year we beat Detroit in Round 1 and went to Game 7 with the Avs who ended up winning the cup. The Kings are the dark horse in this race.
370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
@KOHO, That Detroit series was the first time I had ever seen the series ending handshake in person. I seem to remember being covered from head to toe in beer at the time.
Hey, how about before using the acronym “ROW” 800 times, we define it, on the off chance somebody doesn’t know what it means?
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KOHO Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:15 am
@Yog S’loth,
Regulation/Overtime Wins is my guess.
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Steve Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:30 am
@Yog S’loth, It is in fact a Regulation or Overtime Win. When considering the first tie-breaker in the standings, which is wins, shootout wins don’t count. Strangely, your classic standings table doesn’t report ROW even though it’s more important than any orher stat besides points.
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:41 am
@Yog S’loth, It’s actually what you yell if your motor is kaput and you are being circled by a shark.
I don’t expect to be hearing that one time this week, let alone 800!
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I’d sure feel alot better if Jeff Carter was in the line-up.
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You know, for a “manifesto”, this one was pretty tight and too the point.
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stilts19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
@DesertKing, it’s WRONG! How can it be “to the point” when it is wrong from the get-go? LA DOES NOT get into playoffs with only 1 point. If they lose in OT or SO AND lose in reg on last game AND PHX wins last 2 games the Kings are OUT. This dude messed up on his very first scenario.
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stilts19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@stilts19, ignore my post above. I screwed up! I was thinking that SJ was sitting in 9th place…. my bad.
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If someone said prior to the trade deadline, the Kings would win the division, %95 of us would have said they’re crazy. Still have some work to do, but it’s now a realistic goal!
Carter has to get back in the lineup.
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So here is an interesting scenario. Kings win Thursday in a shootout and get to 95 points. Then on Saturday let’s say they are down by 1 goal with a minute left.
Do you pull the goaltender for the extra attacker knowing that if SJ scores into the empty net they finish ahead of you or do you just trying to score 5 on 5 and if not take the one goal loss knowing you’ll finish ahead of the Sharks?
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Hey Rich, what happens in that third scenario: the Kings win in a SO on Thursday, lose in regulation on Saturday (by at least 2 goals), meaning that both LA and SJ are tied in points, ROWs, head-to-head points, and goal differential? What’s the next tie-breaker?
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370455VinSD Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:47 am
@bmova, I don’t think that can happen, if I’m doing the math right we win the goal differential even if we lose by 1 goal or less and lose the differential if we lose by 2 or more.
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CL Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:49 am
@bmova, In that scenario, they can’t be tied in goal differential. If San Jose won by a single goal, it would be Kings +17, SJ +16, if San Jose won by two goals, flip those numbers.
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FiG17 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:50 am
@bmova,
They wouldn’t be. Kings have +17, Sharks have +16. If the Kings win in a shootout (+1 for winner, -1 for loser), Kings would then have +18, and Sharks drop to +15. If the Sharks win by two or more, Sharks move up to +17 or higher, and the Kings would then drop to -16 or lower. They can’t tie.
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Niko Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@bmova, Exactly, only way we could be tied in goal differential at the end would be if we were separated by 2, or 4 goals currently. In other word, and even number…
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Just win in regulation. We own SJ
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The Master Plan Revealed
It’s simple math. We can’t lose the last 2 games because we’re only playing’ 80 [grins]. I just had to explain all of this to Carts. He had his boot up on my desk at the time. Or was that the other guy that hasn’t played all season? No, no. He’s wearin’ a helmet not a boot. Don’t know why I keep confusing them. Must be the orange jerseys . That and the insurance EOB’s they both keep handing me. So, we’re ok. We won some home games finally. And we even beat my godson on the road. That ain’t easy let me tell ya [looks pleased with himself].
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ForumFan Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 10:56 am
@Duncanz
A tip of the cap
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Duncanz Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
@ForumFan,
“Dunc, y’ FIRED ! ”
(” … pick up y’ long form from Robin on the way out … huh? … she’s gone already too? … get the new girl … er … guy … er thing … I’ll probably end up in the sack with it too, irregardless … “)
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ForunFan Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
@Duncanz,
Nah…am just in the legion of followers..only a pretender to the throne. A replicant, as is JQ to the Kipper
Duncanz Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 1:45 am
@ForumFan,
SUTTER: “40 Win Kipper? Yeah, you got that right!”
Lol, alleged legion … Legion of Doom..
So did you see @JKC wants to collect all the classic DS quotes into a compendium?
Fine idea. I think HarperCollins could sell a ton of these, maybe under the premise of a self help type of deal. This farmer really does seem zen!
Actually, I think what got me started was when he (JKC) said, DS is a “book that is writing itself”. Now_that_is a quote.
I think we might have to start collecting his!
(interesting the spelling of your blog name changed up there)
Whadda ‘all you guys so worried ’bout?
Dontcha know that the league wants Hollywood in the playoffs!
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@Rich Hammond,
I do horribly at math, and I lock up on tests. How about I just pay attention in your “class” and let you do the speaking?
Yeah……….I’ll do that!
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Wait a minute… WRONG!!!! The Kings DO NOT clinch a playoff spot with a loss tomorrow! If they lose in OT or SO, SJ would have 94 pts. and the Kings would have 94 pts. BUT SJ would have the tie breaker AND PHX is still in the game. That info IS WRONG!!!! What is right, if the Kings win in regulation tomorrow they are in NO MATTER WHAT… I can’t believe they posted this when it is so clearly INCORRECT. Get with it boys…
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Jody Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
@stilts19, It says an overtime or shootout loss clinches, because Dallas can’t catch us then.
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stilts19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@Jody, Oops! You’re right Jody. I was thinking that SJ was in 9th. WOW, now I feel a LOT better about the Kings chances! haha This has been the most confusing late season standings I can remember! GO KINGS GO!
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stilts19 Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
@stilts19, Oops! Nevermind my post… I AM WRONG… I was thinking SJ was in 9th. DOH!!!
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trytodethroneus Reply:
April 4th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@stilts19,
Obviously, you failed to consider that dallas is also part of this equation.
If the KINGS get a point for a total of 94 with 1 game to go, and even if dallas wins their game, they will have 91 with 1 game to go. Playoff spot clinched.
They will accept apologies, as also the “CAPS” on your keyboard will.
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It’s simple, you are either considered the 1st place team in the division or the 1st loser if you are 2nd or worse. The Kings need to CONTINUE to take care of business and just win both games against the ‘Guppies’….GKG
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THANK YOU RICH for your tireless efforts to keep us fans as up to date and current with this invaluable information!!!
I constantly am reposting what you write to further spread the LA KINGS love!
Thank you again….. I’d love to be your assistant
Ray Blanco
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Oh how sweet it would be to win the division after the mess this season has been.
What would have to happen for the Kings to eliminate San Jose from playoff contention? Two regulation wins? Or would we have to beat them in regulation and have help from other teams?
After what they did to us in the playoffs last year, I would love nothing more to see them miss the playoffs at the hands of the Kings.
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JUST WIN, BABY!!!
(yes, I am channeling Al Davis’s messages from the Great Beyond)
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Lets win both and have home ice!!!
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@Panama City King, Not Nashville.
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I would love for the Kings to win the Pacific & eliminate the Sharks. GKG!
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