Just four days after their Meltdown in Motown, the Kings will get a chance for revenge tomorrow night when they host the Detroit Red Wings. The first game back after a road trip is traditionally tough for the home team, but the Kings have put themselves in a position where they can’t afford to fall into the normal trappings of the season. The wounds are still fresh from Friday, when the Red Wings scored two late goals to beat the Kings in regulation. The Red Wings are expected to regain the services of goalie Jimmy Howard, but the status of some of their other injured players remains undetermined. Anze Kopitar said the Kings won’t dwell too much on the previous loss to Detroit…
KOPITAR: “You throw the DVD away and you forget about it. There’s just no time for thinking about it, pretty much. You’ve got to look ahead and play the games that are coming up.’’
Kopitar also talked about rebounding from the loss to Detroit with last night’s victory over Chicago and being able to salvage a “decent’’ 2-2 road trip…
KOPITAR: “It was a decent road trip. Maybe the effort in Columbus was not where we wanted it to be, or the game itself, but we played good in Detroit and we took the positives out (of it). Darryl came in and said that if we play like that, most likely we’re going to win games. We just put it together. Now, it’s that time of the year. In the position we’re in right now, you can’t look back at what happened. You can only look ahead. I know it sounds like that every time, but you have to put it behind you. Whether it was a 7-1 loss or a 3-2 loss, it doesn’t really matter. You’ve got to put it behind you and look ahead and play the games that are coming up.’’
Hoping for a rusty Jimmy Howard and a Kings win! 60 minute game fellas!
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rogiesbackup Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@Cup B4 I Die, I’ve always thought jHoward was overrated. Kings have faced so-called “great goalies,” but they never seem to be invincible.
On a different topic, thought that mRichards shootout win vs Chicago was HUGE for his confidence builder.
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mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
@rogiesbackup, I wouldn’t call Jimmy Howard overrated at all. He’s a very good goalie. But the X-Factor is he has an incredibly skilled, puck control team playing in front of him.
If Jonathan Quick played for Detroit, he would be a Vezina Trophy candidate.
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Gary Livingston Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@mash-ola,
JQ is a Vezina Trophy candidate. =)
mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@Gary Livingston, true, he definitely is. I meant he would have more support playing with Detroit both on the ice (stronger team), and playing in Detroit (where he would get more media/support from the rest of the league not paying attention to the LA/west coast market. I love Quick, but I think he’s a rising star in LA, where he would be a bonafide star league-wide if he were in the Hockey Town market…
mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
@Cup B4 I Die, Sadly, it will most likely mean that the Hockey Gods will be even more cruel to the Kings and the fans by having the Wings come back from a three-goal deficit and beating the Kings with a goal scored with one-second left in the regulation.
4-3 Redwings on a Tomas Holmstrom goal at 19:59…
That’s how confident I am whenever the Kings play Detroit.
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Brewhemoth Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 1:25 am
@mash-ola,
you’re an idiot
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Top Shelf Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 4:25 am
@Cup B4 I Die,
Yeah maybe now he remembers where the puck belongs
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Decent?! Playing 500 hockey from here on out isn’t getting you into the playoffs, Anze…
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fsd1 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
@InfiN8, yes, decent, 2-2 is much better than 1-3 or 0-4 but not great, so his words ring true.
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KingOfRedlands Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
@InfiN8, a great team will have a strong home record and a .500 road record. It isn’t what the kings wanted and they could have just as easily won all 4 games, but they’ll take the four points.
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mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@InfiN8, Where mediocrity is the bar… YOUR LOS ANGELES KINGS!
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Adam Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
@InfiN8, decent is what it means, just decent. He didn’t say “great” or anything…
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g smith86 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
@InfiN8, What you want to hear from Anze is we should have won 3 games and we didn’t show up against Columbus…which is inexcusable…we are not getting it done and that is because we dont work hard enough as a team for sixty minutes…
I agree with you…they have become complascent with being average…you look at the teams that are pushing hard…Dallas, Colorado and Phoenix…there is no quit in those teams and they are coming to play every night and on every shift…These teams clearly want to make the playoffs and are playing with desperation…
I just don’t see this kind of attitude from the Kings players
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kingpin11 Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 11:43 am
@g smith86, yup. It’s about leadership, or the lack of it, and accountability. A leader should be grabbing this team by its proverbial lapels and shaking the **** out of it until losing becomes unacceptable. And right now, it’s not what I hear. That urgency sounds like its lacking, IMO
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Stuart Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@kingpin11, true, but unfortunately, we hear “obviously, it is what it is”… sickening is what it is!!
Put Nolan on the 3rd line instead of Lewis. He can be more productive on that line.
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562kevin Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@goldielocks, I agree. I’d like to see Richardson in rather then Lewis. Lewis really does nothing for us besides being good on the PK.
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Puckhandler Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
@562kevin, ditto that sentiment. Richardson always flies out there, and Lewis doesn’t bring much outside PK
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DiggerRocket Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
@Puckhandler, +3 – Nolan is showing some serious poise. That back off and feed to Doughty was sick. Right now it seems like he has a lot more upside than either Richardson or Lewis.
Eric Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
@562kevin, Richardson? Seriously? I can’t think of a single more useless player on the team. Goes to show how differently we all see things.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@Eric, Did you see Richardson play last year playoffs against San Jose? He was awesome offensively. His line with Clifford and Simmonds almost single handily did in San Jose. I am hoping for that Richie to return.
562kevin Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@Eric, Don’t get me wrong i think he is pretty much useless also, but i’d rather have him out there rather then Fraser or Lewis. I wish they’d bring up Linden Vey and Brandon Kozun. But since i know management will not do that, might as well scratch lewis and put in a little more physical player like richardson.
Northern Fan Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
@Eric, agree with Jeff_R reply. Richardson, Simmons and Clifford carried the team in the playoffs last year. Richardson got to play his regular position and got to play with the same linemates more than 2 games in a row. This year he has been moved from position to position and line to line all year and then management wonders why he doesn’t produce. I think given a chance, he would show us again the talent that he has. Bet he was disappointed that a trade didn’t come his way this year. Another Purcell/Moulson/Simmons waiting to happen on another team.
KC23 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@562kevin, Richardson is just Lewis that can’t play defense very well imho.
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xeropoint Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
@KC23, THIS ^
40YearKingsFan Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:54 am
@KC23, I tend to agree with you especially if you base it on this year’s performance.
prosmar Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
@562kevin, I actually want to see Fraser scratched.
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562kevin Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
@prosmar, I agree with that too. I really think Lewis, Fraser, and Richardson are terrible. But if i had to choose between them i’d go with Richardson.
Cruiznblue Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
@562kevin,
well Richardson doesnt do much for us either…
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KC23 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@goldielocks, I also think that is a good call. We are wasting what little offensive talent we have on that line with Lewis on it.
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Cruiznblue Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
@goldielocks,
Agreed!
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Can the LA Kings will take a Revenge over the Red Wings because the Red Wings are now a worst record for the Road Games so can the LA Kings will beat the Red Wings at Staples Center
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pr0cess Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
@Adam M, lol you see how we play against teams we “should” beat right?
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Just watch the middle. So far every goal Detroits scored against us this season has been from plays to the slot. Kings can’t be perfect, but have to approach it another way than just simply trying to get inside position, and camping there till they make their move.
As the last game showed, they only needed 2 out of their first 4 shots from the middle to score.
A more proactive strategy to deflect the attack into the corners, and pinning it there. A cycle in their zone that is more effective at hemming them in so they don’t have so much possession coming out.
Detroit cycles players away from the puck to always have a player pressuring the puck at all times. Kings should be doing tis to them instead of falling back into a layered defensive positioning.
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aKinginVancouver Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
@Dominick, How I felt the system worked under TM was that the structure didn’t change (regardless of how obvious certain holes were) and the opposing team took full advantage of that. One thing I haven’t been able to tell is if DS has been taking more of a game-to-game/team-to-team approach.
Do you think the Kings will adapt to each team or just continue on with their system regardless of?
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Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
@aKinginVancouver, I’ve had a hard time telling myself. He makes changes, but they seem more like blanket changes to the overall system, and not specific changes to specialize their game to any one opponent. Then I suddenly see games where I know the opponents game, and the Kings made specific changes to win that they don’t carry over to the next couple of games.
Very hard to tell whether he’s consistant, or like in the case of the Columbus game that was not scouted properly, just not making any changes.
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Deke'r Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
@Dominick, ….when the players come out like they did in Colombuts it doesn’t matter how much you “scout” or what system you play….or lack there of…
Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
@Deke’r,
The Columbus game, the players, and even the coach were saying they didn’t try hard enough, and didn’t have the energy, and they’ve been programmed to say that for years.
In actuality, Columbus hemmed the Kings in their zone, stood the Kings up in the neutral zone so they couldn’t generate any speed, and forced the Kings to skate to the walls, then when the Kings went from low to high, blocked a good portion of the shots.
Since the Kings ran into brick walls everywhere, couldn’t build up any speed, and had all their shots blocked, it sure seemed like they were just lazy, but I didn’t see it. I saw Columbus’ game plan, and adjustments to continue their results, and a whole lot of line changes from the Kings to answer back.
Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@aKinginVancouver, oops, meant “inconsistent”.
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LAK1ngs Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
@aKinginVancouver, Come on now.
Everyone knows the system we play is irrelevant, it’s the players’ efforts…. /sarcasm
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Kenny44 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
@Dominick, Sometimes you can get an idea how to defend a team by watching how they defend. If you try to attack down the slot, they funnel away your space and send someone right at you. Their D-man Smyth got one of the hits of the week on Kane that way.
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We need the Staples Center to be a playoff like atmosphere. If we get off to a good start and put forth the effort all game, I can see us getting the two points. Gonna be extremely tough, our top guys got to play like our top guys. GOKINGSGO!
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KingOfRedlands Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
@562kevin, I’ll be there on the glass GKG
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562kevin Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
@KingOfRedlands, Nice! You guys better be LOUD!
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g smith86 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
@562kevin, yea, but there will be at least a thousand Wings fans their because…well you know why, and you will have to suffer through their cheers as well…Expect the Wings to dominate, unless DS comes up with some rinkles…The Wings are awell-oiled machine and have great coaching and scouting…an organization that theKings should model themselves after…starting right now!
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562kevin Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
@g smith86, You are spot on. Couldn’t agree more, but i like to think that we have a good chance. It makes it more exciting for me. Haha all i can do is hope we come out flying and playing the best hockey we’ve played this season.
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Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
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Deke'r Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@Capt Jam, ….thank you George…
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Wow Kopi really? Where’s the heart you used to have for this team??? How pathetic!
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fsd1 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
@- ViC -, He has more heart than you think……..
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@fsd1, I normally agree with most everything you say but it is very valid to question Kopi’s heart. He is a great player and plays 200 ft of the ice, but when has he ever raised his game when the Kings needed him most? His one trip to the playoffs he was outscored by JJ. What you see is what you get, which is good, but he doesn’t put the team on his shoulders. He doesn’t score the timely goal. He doesn’t make the play.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:04 am
@fsd1, I’m not ready to question Kopi’s heart either. I’ve seen good games and bad, like every player, but I’ve never seen Kopi quit on a single play.
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Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
@- ViC -, Kopi is producing more than any player on the team. How can you pick the best we have and decide that is the guy worthy of insults? Not that I enjoy seeing any of our players be insulted, but at least start with the guys who aren’t getting anything done..
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
@Dominick, Really? He has the most points on the team so everything is OK. No, he has fallen short many nights this season. His points per game are the lowest they have been in 3 seasons. He plays well but doesn’t lift his game when we need it most. He has ONE game winning goal this year, the whole season! Where has he been during this playoff run? The guy you called a statistical nosedive (Jeff Carter) is the guy stepping up. In fact in his 8 games with the Kings Carter is tied with Kopi in GW goals. HOF player Marcel Dionne called Kopi out in public and was critical of him. Marcel was basically saying the same thing Vic was, Kopi lacks heart. Vic was right on the money!
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Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@Osaka, I guess you haven’t looked at the last 20 games? He has scored more in the last 10 games than most have in the last 30. Brown is the only one on the team who has outscored Kopi, so maybe everyone should dump on Brown too. Lets all ignore the guys who have 0 points, and go strait for the jugular.
If you need help looking at everybodies last 10 games, let me know, and I’ll post you a link.
Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
@Osaka, Also, JJ has as many points as Carter in 1 fewer games, with a better +/-. I’m just sayin.
Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@Dominick, Kopi is the center of the top line, a little more is asked of him than Fraser. Brown has played great, after the trade rumors and getting dumped on he responded. Brown deserved the criticism at the time, there lies the difference, Brown has heart and responded. Then again Brown has 6 game winning goals. What about Dionne’s comments then? Was he wrong? Does he not know what he is talking about?
Kopi has 3 goals in the last 15 games! One was an empty netter!!!!!
Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
@Osaka, Dionne’s comments were right in an overall view, but not on a game to game basis. Just because Dionne says Kopi disappears, doesn’t mean it’s applying right now. He also has the same myopic view that the system is fine, and that it’s the players failing the system, not the system failing the players.
Kopi has 8 points in his last 10 games, in a system that everybody knows how to defend against. If teams didn’t know how to defend against it, more guys would be scoring, and Kopi would look like some lazy slacker with only 8 points.
Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
@Osaka, Also, how many of Browns 6 game winning goals did Kopi get an assist on? He seems more responsible than you give him credit for.
Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
@Osaka,I never said Kopi was ineffective. Kopi is not a bad player, your misunderstanding me. He is the most skilled on the team and is a very important part of any success we have. He just lacks the heart to make him elite. He needs to be a bigger part of the outcome more often. I think it has to do a lot with the European background, like Sundin Marcel points out. I am not judging Kopi on one game but the season, the stretch drive, his career as a whole. You questioned Vic “How can you pick the best we have and decide that is the guy worthy of insults?” Because the best player isn’t the best player enough of the time. Because the best player hasn’t risen to the occasion. You want to call out other players, call them out. Doesn’t diminish Vic’s justified view on Kopi which happens to shared by Dionne.
Same myopic view? Now that isn’t fair, that is just because you think differently. If he thought the way you did you would use him as an example.
Dominick Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
@Osaka, His views on Kopi only focus on Kopi. What he doesn’t do is compare the scoring rate for the rest of the team when Kopi struggles. The entire team goes through long scoring droughts. A lot of those struggles match up with the teams long losing streaks when everybody is being stopped from scoring, but he just singles out Kopi.
If Kopi was struggling, and the rest of the team was scoring, he’d have a point, but when the entire team is being stopped, how can you point to Kopi and say he has no heart?
Kingstane9 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
@Osaka, can you chill please Osaka? Richards has 1 goal in 26 games! One was I don’t remember… He has no heart – not true.
Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
@Kingstane9, I am chill’n. I not going to change my point of view because you don’t like it but to each…. I am not pleased with Richards but this particular thread was about Kopi.
KC23 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@Dominick, I agree. I’d go with Penner, Gagne and Stoll as worst production per cap dollar on the team. Kopitar isn’t having a great year, but there are so many worse he seems like an odd player to pick on.
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prosmar Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
@- ViC -, I agree he’s not playing great but he is still the best on this team with the exception of Quick. So pick on everyone else first.
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
@prosmar, He questioned his heart, not his skill. Kopi doesn’t play up to his skill level. Brown who doesn’t have the skill of Kopi plays at the high level because of heart. Vic hit the nail on the head. It may make you feel uncomfortable but it is true.
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Kenny44 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
@Osaka & @Dominick
I understand wanting more out of Kopi, because we’ve all seen flashes of Anze “Almost a Malkin” Kopitar. But then I see his first shift, when he carries the puck up the ice and takes it right to the net for a scoring chance, then busts his butt all the back to the Kings net to deny the Hawks a chance.
Contrast that with MR’s first shift, where he failed to get off an open shot because he didn’t bear down and his stick was easily lifted, then he got beat back down the ice.
And I’ve never heard of the Kings running plays to break Kopi open or focus on feeding him the puck. I don’t see his linemates running picks for him.
OTOH, i would definitely like to see some more of that “take what you want” attitude from him. but that could be said about the team attitude.
Bottom line is that we need this team to develop a better killer instinct and attitude, to be hungry and lusty for that next shift, next hit, next goal, next win. There’s too much relief when we win and too much “that’s OK” after we lose. I want to hear about how the players can’t wait to get out there again to win the next one. I hope that’s what Kopi is trying to say. I hope.
Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
@Kenny44,
I agree, it is the flashes that drive me crazy because I know what he IS capable of doing. It is the guy who started the season with 10 points in the first 6 games, 23 points in the first 19 games. He was a different player. Each season he starts on fire and is a league leader in scoring before going on his sabbatical. I agree he would really benefit from a better RW, but shouldn’t he make the guys he plays with better? You make good points though.
“Almost a Malkin” is a perfect description when he is on! Once again Kenny44 you have a great post.
g smith86 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
@Osaka, I would have little left at this point of the season if I had played more minutes than any other forward on the team and skated 800 plus feet on every shift in every game and played in all the pressure situations game in and game out…
I too would like to hear more passion in his words and see more fire from him on the ice, but I think this season in particular has taken a toll on Anze…
He busted his butt to get back after the injury and he played his hardest and hasn’t really enjoyed any success from his work..Nothing has come easy for him or his teammates this year…
I wouldn’t characterize Kopi as lacking heart…I would say he is Dis-heartened
Kenny44 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@Osaka, thanks man. I always read close when I see your tag. That’s the great thing about this blog – even through all the static we can find people with an eye for the game.
BTW, I loved the 97 World Cup. That was pure balls out hockey. Richter was like something from a comic book. My favorite hockey was the 87 Canada Cup. The two most skilled teams I have ever seen set such a pace. Of course, if game 2 of the 93 Stanley Cup would have finished the right way . . .
Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
@Kenny44, 87 was when Mario said he learned what it took to win. THAT tournament changed his whole way of thinking and how he approached the game. That was some awesome hockey. Didn’t Gretz lose control of his bodily functions in the 2nd OT of game 2 against the Soviet Union? THAT is leaving it all out there, literally.
crashin'da net Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:17 am
@Osaka, g_smith; spot on re: Kopi. opi had been carryin gthe team for so long with his two-way play while witnessing others slacking it. He’s hdisheartened by the work ethic of others (Gagne, Penner, et. al.)while being called out for his offensive dry spell. Someone mentioned earlier that Kopi rarely goes to the corners to dig our pucks. he lives in those ocrners and rarely does he not come out with it. Lately I have seen the others team determined to knock him down in those corners (a difficult feat) otherwise if he’s standing you cannot take the puck from him. The heavy lifting he provides only gets later gets met with criticism of his not going hard enpugh or often enough to the net. If we had someone who can do some successful digging for him and if he “cheated” and wasn’t always the first one back then he just might be going harder to the net. Also, Brown really isn;t really a good fit for him on that top line.
Deja vu? Will Richards come out and play again rather than making boneheaded stupid plays in our own end? Time will tell.
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KingOfRedlands Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
@Hat trick, I think that goal will power him foreword through the rest of the season (and the playoffs????). He was just in a funk but he’s a hard worker and he will build on that goal. Also, he’s been getting tons of assists on Carter’s goals, his goal scoring might be down but he’s still making good enough feeds.
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KC23 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@KingOfRedlands, Actually I think he horrid play in crunch time at Detroit is what is going to power him through the rest of the season. That had to be very embarrassing for him.
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“likely” going to win games with effort? Wow, disappointing statement.
How about just play like you can and bury the opponent. Effort is great and all but that is subjective to who thinks the effort is there.
I am not feeling real good about our chances this year.
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fsd1 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
@The Grice Boys (formerly Barrie G), makes total sense to me, the effort wasnt there in columbus but it was in the next 3 games.
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FiG17 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
@fsd1,
Next 3 games?
Are you from the future? And does that mean we win tomorrow?!
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fsd1 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
@FiG17, might have the before after wrong but we played 4 games on the roadtrip, one we stuck up the joint the other 3 we played pretty darn good. Should have said the other 3 games on the roadtrip.
crashin'da net Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
@The Grice Boys (formerly Barrie G), they shoul dbe playing each game as if it were their last because that’s essentially what it is coming down to. Keep the prime scoring area (slot and crease) clear! Tie them up or don’t let them in!
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Choralone Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
@The Grice Boys (formerly Barrie G), I’m not sure what your point is… on the one hand you say “play like you can and bury the opponent” which implies giving maximum effort, and on the other you criticize “effort” as being too subjective a criterea. To whom? The fan, because it’s hard to tell from our seats or our TVs how much effort each player is giving? I can guarantee you the players know how much effort they are giving. Effort is the only variable completely under each player’s control – you can’t tell them to improve their bounces or their talent.
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g smith86 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@The Grice Boys (formerly Barrie G), I feel I have gone negative, but i have to agree…I am just not hearing enough passion and desperation from the players and leaders of this team
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“Throw the DVD away”? Isn’t Kompon the “King of Kings Video Replay”? Now I am beginning to understand why our offense and PP are so far behind. We are still usinig DVD’s when the rest of the league has already progressed to thumbdrives and mutli-gig storage devices. Heck, I bet most of the teams have their video sessions with blu-ray and HD. DVD’s? Thats something you would find in my house next to the beta-max tapes (thanks Dominick!).
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KC23 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@DesertKing, Keep the DVD and throw Coupon away.
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DesertKing Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@KC23,
+1000000000000000000000
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Kingstane9 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
@KC23, LOL, I agree!
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Anything short of a total beat down by the Kings will leave me skepticle regarding the outcome of this season. In my view, not only do they need to beat Detroit, but theu must send a signal to all future opponents that the road to the playoffs goes through LA. In order to do that, the win vs the Wings must be decisive. Quick can not do this alone.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
@Kissmyblarneystones, At this point I don’t care how they get the W and 2 points, just GET IT.
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Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@Jeff_R,
Its like I said previously bro, I want the boys to win the cup. I know they have to get to the dance first before they win the competition, but I want my team to be known for handling their business. Teams throughout all sports that have that reputation, are the teams that win chapionships. On paper, this team was supposed to be one of the teams to beat. The perfect combo of youth and experience. I want Milbury and Cherry talking us up, not laughing at us. I don’t know how old you are, But I’ve been supporting this team since the LA Sharks were playing in LA. I’m hurtin dude and I would appreiciate a little reward for my unwaivering dedication to an underachieving franchise. Pride, Anger and Pain is what I’m feeling now, And only DB Lifting the cup will exircise my demons. GKG
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
@Kissmyblarneystones, I want that too but to get that they need to get to the playoffs and with only 13 games left they don’t have time to make it look pretty with how they win, just win baby. I don’t care if they win 1-0 or 9-8…As long as they win. I do believe though that when they make the playoffs they are going to do real well. Then next season starts and they can show there dominance then. Now it is time to do whatever they can to get a playoff spot. They had all year to show the dominance but other then Quick they didn’t do it. If Milbury starts praising us then hell has frozen over and pigs can fly.
Off topic question. I’m sure one of you knows the answer without having to look. Who’s being doing better on there respective teams since the trade, vv or Johnson?
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Doughty2Simmonds Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
@KingRey, Statistically? Voynov. Columbus tho has become a MUCH improved team over their last 7ish games for sure
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CL Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@Doughty2Simmonds, Considering the common perception around here, though, it’s interesting to note that LA has the slightly better record since the trade. 5-3-0 to 4-4-0. Of course, Columbus’s 4 game win streak is more impressive considering what a crappy year they’ve had.
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johnjuan Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
@KingRey, JJ has had more of a free hand in Columbus but Voynov has been great albeit smaller but, looks good at both ends of the ice. I liked Jack but, the real comparison should be between him and Carter. Thats what we gained after all.
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KingRey Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
@johnjuan yeah you right in that. Ijust wanted to point out how voynov has done good in replacing him. He still has a lot to learn obviously but give his young age and pairing with a solid veteran mitchel I’m feeling good. He makes a lot of smart plays and to me does better on reading passing lanes and finding holes.. He definitely has a lot he can improve on though.
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CB14 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
@KingRey, Pretty even so far. Jack has 2 goals, 2 assists, and is a plus 1. Slava has 1 goal, 3 assist, and is a plus 6.
While alot of people will point to the +/- as a way of saying VV has been better than JJ, it’s worth noting that VV doesn’t have to face other teams top lines like JJ does. If you noticed last night off of faceoffs Sutter put WM and MG together so that VV didn’t have to face the Kane line. That type of thing goes unnoticed by alot of people. VV has been coddled defensively while JJ has been playing over 25 minutes a game.
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CL Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@CB14, Thanks for pointing that out. I thought it was strange seeing WM and MG together so often.
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bbb7 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
@CB14, I also believe he did that so Doughty wouldnt have to face them either, and thats a good move.
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mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@KingRey, So far, the trade has helped both teams. Voynov has filled in more than adequately on the blueline, both offensively and defensively, plus Carter has given the Kings offense a boost.
In Columbus, JJ has helped spark the Jackets to their strongest stretch of games this season, plsaying well despite a home and home series with the unstoppable St. Louis Blues. I saw Sunday’s game and Columbus is playing very well.
So yeah, it’s one of those trades that has helped both teams out.
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You’re my boy blue!!!!! (looks at Richards)
REDEEM yourself
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CB14 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
@Lake Forest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWa9aZk7Z6Y&feature=related
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TICKETS TICKETS TICKETS TICKETS AT COST!!! For Tomorrow Tuesday, March 13th VS Detroit
We’re on vacation in Austria, my buddy is sick and my son has classes untill 10:00 PM. So some lucky blogger can get two tickets at cost ($55 each) Section 219 – Isle seats 1 & 2. Kings shoot (and hopefully score:) two periods on this goal.
I much rather let some Kings fan have them at cost than let another red shirt pollute Staples Center. If you want them please email me: gliwski@aol.com to give you my son’s contact info.
You’ll have to get the tickets from Huntington Beach or Long Beach. Please cash only!
GKG!
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Defense has to be very active in the O Zone and physical all night. No gaps, forget the puck and take the body!
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Deke'r Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
@johnjuan, ….taht’s what I thought about the 2nd & 3rd….too soft…
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Some things have to change, I said it prior to Sutter coming in and once again I will say it.
-our 4th line needs to play over 10 minutes
(perhaps a shut down line only but it rests our top lines)
-Doughty has to show up
(this guy just doesn’t get it…….he’s a winger/defensemen, he is always out of position)
-all D not just Voynov need to ensure players don’t come out of the corner to the net with the puck
(Voynov was beat by guy out of the corner which resulted in a goal in Chicago, as a D you cannot allow this to happen, size and strength needs improvement)
*yes he scored and is good in the O zone but in his own end he needs to play on the proper side all the time, containment is the word*
-all forward lines need to play behind the opposition’s D, get pucks deep and do not turn pucks over, in our end when in doubt get it out, even if it means icing the puck
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
@Harty,
I don’t think a team ends up 3rd in GAA when the top d-man in terms of ice time is “always out of position”. If that was the case, the kings certainly wouldn’t be a defensive powerhouse they’ve become this year. They’d be first in GAA if the forwards could hold the puck longer there by reducing the time the other team has with the puck.
The problems with the D (on the rare occasion they occur) usually is because the forwards are missing assignments in the Kings zone, like Richards in Detroit.
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Harty Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
@FKA PakiFro, I don’t want to argue any points however I will watch the F in the O zone tomorrow night if you watch our D down low in our end.
-giveaways (count them)
-getting beat on the wall
-*also note how often Doughty is skating forward back to defend opposed to skating backwards like a D man should keeping the play in front of him
I will certainly watch the F in the O zone and nuetral zone. Just watch the D though……….if the centers were not as good as they are down low to recover pucks watch how the D are beat consistently.
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Kenny44 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
@Harty, everything under TM focused on taking pressure off our D, from the low and slow C in our zone to the dot to board low to high point shot focus in the O zone. Now that DS is asking the D to do more, they’re getting exposed a bit in the adjustment.
Ironically, the Voynov play you’re talking about wouldn’t be a goal if Kane doesn’t beat MR to the net.
FKA PakiFro Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:22 am
@Harty,
I’ll keep an eye out for it. I do know what you’re talking about, I just don’t think its as frequent.
Forget about Parise, I would love the Kings to go after Weber this summer. If I were going to overpay for a UFA it would be Weber. You can trade DD for scoring help and get a top level talent.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
@Osaka,
you mean NEXT summer for Weber..
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
@FKA PakiFro, Oh that is right, Suter is the UFA this summer Weber is RFA.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
@Osaka, The problem with this is in the long run I firmly believe that Drew will be better then Shea. If we were to go after a defenseman I would go after Suter. We also need a top 3 LW desperately which is why we need to go hard after Parise.
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
@Jeff_R, The point is mute because Weber isn’t an UFA until next summer, but there is no way of guessing DD would ever be as good as Weber, as of now it isn’t even close. Neither Suter nor Doughty come close to Weber IMO. I know Suter and Weber both have 41 points but I like Weber’s shot (14 goals) and his 151 hits to Suter’s 37. I like Drew and it isn’t a knock on him, I guess it says more about Shea. Still I wouldn’t overpay Parise.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
@Osaka, I understand that Weber is an RFA and will probably be back in Nashville next season and won’t be a UFA until next Summer (13). What I meant is the fact that our offense has been so futile and our defense is top 3 we should add via free agency to our offense, especially when a guy like Parise is available you go after him hard. Wether you over pay I don’t know, as I have heard alot of different numbers it would take to get him. My point also being if we were to go after a UFA on defense I would go after Suter. A combination of Doughty and Suter could be lethal like it is for Nashville with Weber/Suter. Shea is going to be 27 this August and Drew is only 22. This isn’t the same as Schenn and Richards where the older guy was better now then the younger guy. It takes defenseman until they are like 24-25 before they are at the top of their game. I am sure Shea struggled his first few years or so and he also didn’t come in at age 18. As for Suter I think he might look at LA as a prospective place to play, as his Uncle played for San Jose when Dean and Sutter were there and he played for Sutter when he was the coach in Chicago so there is an in there. I am hoping his Uncle will be able to convince his nephew to help guide his nephew to look at Los Angeles as a destination and tell him that it was great playing for Darryl and Dean. It couldn’t hurt
. I understand that Weber is better but we already have that in Drew so we don’t need to spend the money it take to get him. Suter is a cheaper option that would produce offensively the same as Weber. Drew will get better and become the player we all expect him to be.
time for desperation hockey. every game is a game 7, where you got to sell out and give it up every night…
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
@tim chaney, Let’s see who steps up.
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ForumFan Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@tim chaney,
It’s been time for desperate hockey for a long time. I’ve been a Kings fan since Triple Crown Line days, and have never seen a Kings team with this much talent under-achieve like this one. I’m not ready to give up, just am not feeling very optimistic.
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Last nights win while exciting and all hurt us as we won it in a shootout and didn’t get the ROW victory. It put us 2 wins behind Calgary making it a little harder to make the playoffs in a tie breaking situation. Here is how it stands ROW wise amongst the teams battling for the final playoff slots.
Dallas – 32
Chicago – 33
Phoenix – 29
Calgary – 29
Colorado – 28
Kings – 27
Sharks – 27
On the Kings website Playoff Tracker it says the 8th place team at this time looks like they will have either 92 or 93 points. This means for the Kings to make the playoffs they have to win in regulation or OT and do there best not to go to a SO. If they want to make the playoffs without worrying about the tie breaker for 8th place then they need to win 9 out of there last 13 games. That would give them 94 points and almost guarantee a spot in the playoffs. We are going through the first increment of 7 games and are 1-0, so they need to win at least 4 out of the next 6. It would make things a lot easier if they end up winning 5 or all 6 as that would give them 86-88 points then they would only have to win 3 or 4 of there last 7. To win the division however they will probably have to win all 7 games (6 left now after yesterdays win) and then win 4 or 5 of the final 7 giving them 96-98 points. That is a tall order especially for a team that hasn’t put together a streak like that all year. Of course no time like the present.
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flex Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@Jeff_R, ..and the way ,almost only way to that is a win over detroit on Tusday…I would say 95 ,at list 95 seems safe.And again next game win and two over Sharks (critical)
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mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
@Jeff_R, True, it will not be easy for the Kings. Still. They play the game on the ice, not on a statistical sheet. Anything can happen, but only the Kings and their play on the ice will determine if the stats become reality or a new set of stats saying how they beat the odds…
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vplaza Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
@mash-ola,
Actually, it’s not just their play on the ice but also the play of the teams they’re trying to catch.
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mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
@vplaza, Yes, also true. My point being that the Kings can’t focus on anything other than playing their games and trying to win as many of them as they can. Thet’s really all they have control over. Everything else is not under their control any longer.
Tonights important games that affect the Kings and the winning team that helps the Kings out….
Nashville – Phoenix – Nashville
Ducks – Avs – Ducks
Sharks – Oil – Oil
So tonight we are Predators, Ducks and Oilers fans….GO PDO!!!!!!!
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mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@Jeff_R, Essentially, the playoffs have already started. EVERY game involving the Western Conference/Pacific Division for the next three weeks will be important. And every game the Kings play will be their most important game of the season (at least until the next one after that!)
Nail biting, but fun times!
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vplaza Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
@Jeff_R,
It really sucks that the team can’t control its own destiny and need to get help from other teams. I hate having to root for the quacks under any circumstances, but it is what itis.
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mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
@vplaza, That’s kind of what I mean, too. Had the Kings been playing better hockey this season, they wouldn’t be in their present state where they have to rely on a little luck and fate as to what the other teams are doing. I was hoping that this year’s Kings would be like the present Nashville Predators (more in control of their position in the Western Conference, and most likely to make the playoffs clean and not having to ‘back in’ to a spot).
But yeah, it sucks having to watch other games to see how it affects the Kings…
It is what it is.
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Someone in an earlier thread asked about who the clutch scorers have been for the Kings this season (in response to an article about the Top 12 Clutch Scorers posted at Yahoo Sports)
Clutch was defined by 5 categories, !st goal in a game (which is HUGE IMO), game winning goals, OT goals, Game deciding SO goals, and SO %
Brown has been the Kings leader, with 4 1st-goals, 6 GW goals and 2 SO deciding goals.
Richards has 6 1st-goals (all before he got hurt) and 2 shootout deciding goals. I had forgotten just HOW great he played the first 2 months until I researched for this. I think in one span he had 4 1st-goals in a row.
JJ had 3 1st-goals, and 4 GW goals (three in the Kings first three wins of the season)
Kopitar has had 4 1st-goals and 1 GW goal but has been pretty quiet in the ‘clutch goals’ as defined here.
Williams has 4 1st-goals, a GW goal and an SO decider.
DD has 2 GW goals (including one OT winner) and one 1st-goal, but had NONE in the ‘clutch’ categories until Jan 5th
I consider GW goals as an iffy category since you can score the 5th goal putting your team ahead 5-2 and if the opponents get 2 goals, suddenly you have the GW goal. First goals are huge, especially considering the winning percentages of teams that score first. (The Kings record when they score first is 25-5-6, and thats about average for the league).
The other 1st-goal scorers are Gagne-1, Voynov-1, Martinez-1, Fraser-1, Mitchell-1, Moreau -1, Scuderi -1 , Hunter -1, Penner -1 , King -1 , and Carter -1
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@bbb7, On GW goals, if the score ends 5-2, whoever scored the 3rd goal gets the GW’r not the 5th.
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bbb7 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
@Osaka, You mis-read what I was saying: If youre ahead 5-2 and the other team scores two more goals, the guy who scored the 5th goal (which wasnt all that meaningful at the time) ends up with the GW goal.
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
@bbb7, You are correct.
Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
@bbb7, But that stat is not misleading for the Kings because that doesn’t happen. We don’t play in many 5-4 games. 2-1 or 1-0 is a Kings win so GW goal stat is pretty important.
The Kings record this year is sub .500 (Bettman point aside). Losing games that should have been wins isn’t okay. I am just tired of hearing the whole ‘don’t look back’ comments. If the Kings don’t make the playoffs this season it will be a monumental failure.
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xeropoint Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@ForumFan, Would you rather them sulk and dwell on past failures? Really, what else can they do BUT look ahead?
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Anyone seen the Bridgestone’s commercial DD version? It’s just like DD skates over the puck and being dumbfounded. Come on 7 million dollar man, you can do better than that.
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Munchrat Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
@goldielocks, The commersh is about the lousy puck that Bridgestone made. It’s a self-deprecating humor thing, no slight on DD8.
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goldielocks Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@Munchrat,
I know but his expression is kinda same … when he overskated, losing the edge, being out of position, missing the hip-check … what else?
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Duncanz Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
@goldielocks, Reply appeared below, sorry.
I can’t decide if I would rather the Ducks be doing better so I could justifiably root against them as much as I’d like to or if I’m okay with rooting for them if it means they’re bottom feeders who can hinder the *real* competition.
It’s quite a conflict of interests. lol
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rogiesbackup Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@FiG17, I’m hoping they win tonight against the AVs.
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Munchrat Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@FiG17, As much as I hate to do it, I gotta root for the quacks tonight…
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FiG17 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
@Munchrat,
I know, I know… I’m rooting for them tonight whether I like it or not…
Basically, all I’m saying is that I don’t like it and maybe wish they were higher up in the standings this season so I wouldn’t have to… which then contradicts my aversion to rooting for them… lol.
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vinny Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@FiG17, lol
mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
@FiG17, After the Ducks/Kings game on Friday, I’ll be rooting for the Ducks. They will have to help the Kings as spoilers against the other Pacific/Western teams they play. It seems like it might be too much for the Ducks to overcome to make the playoffs, but while it’s still possibile, all I can say is, lose to the Kings, but beat everyone else…
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Our home record is abysmal.
The first game back is not the only trap game. The second, third and fourth home games after a road trip are equally problematic.
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bbb7 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
@Munchrat, Aint that the truth. Our home record is 24th in the league, with all non-playoff teams below us and seven non-playoff teams above us.
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bbb7 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
@bbb7, And speaking of which, against the top 10 home teams in THEIR buildings, the Kings record is 7-4-2; pretty amazing.
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Steve W Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@bbb7, I remember in years past, when they had a great home record, but a so so road record
Munchrat Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
@bbb7, The fact that we skate in stinkin’ El Kabongo on game days has to be a reascon why we suck at Staples. Not to mention it’s the lousiest sheet of ice in North America.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 11:00 am
@Munchrat, The Kings have 17 wins at home and 15 on the road as of now. With 13 games left if they end up with over 20 wins at home (at least 4 out of there last 7) and 19 or 20 wins on the road (4-5 wins) that should help them make the playoffs. 22 wins at home and 19 wins on the road would give them 41 total wins and 94 points. To get that they would have to go 5-2 at home and 4-2 on the road. Doable.
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for all the haters of DD then you all must think that DS is a bad coach…he keeps playing him alot!!!! Cant have it both ways…
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:54 am
@neil, I really think DD is going to bust out next season when Sutter changes the system to a more offensive one, with a more defensive intensity. Like what he had in Calgary, who would have scored more had they had more then Iginla. Hey he took over Calgary mideseason and the next year they went to the finals so there is that.
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Notice from Chicago. During warm-ups last night the King bench was all full, Stevens,Kompon,Nichols,Ranford,Sutter, NBC.. Very intense beginning last night.
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Watching the Ducks game and the Ducks play by play is doing the game on versus?!? All he talks about is the Ducks its almost embarrassing that its being broadcasted across the nation
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paul03 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
@ehdx3, I thinked they should be moved somewhere in Canada,or at least out of the state.
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Steve W Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
@ehdx3, Why is it that Strader, and not Bob does the play by play on Kings games, Where is Strader on Duck games?
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Munchrat Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
@Steve W, At least we weren’t subjected to Doc Emerick
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
@Steve W, I know that Hayward did broadcast games when it was Versus in past years so they probably use him again here. Since they both are there they probably just use Ahlers also. Really sucks but what can you do. Contracts and all.
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Steve W Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
@Jeff_R, But tonights game was Alhers and McGuire, not Hazy.
Steve W Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
@Jeff_R, Sorry, didn’t see the last part of your post.
@goldielocks, His shooting looked to be lacking a little in caliber for my liking…
I think if DD had as much traction as those pucks, Scuderi would be having a much better season right now, eh?
I heard Milbury did all his research for last night by watching that commercial!
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goldielocks Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@Duncanz,
It actually made me wonder … could the system take offensive ability from a defenseman as well? Scary thought, isn’t it?
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
@goldielocks, How would that explain his first couple of years when he was pretty good offensively. Only the last two he hasn’t been as consistent as his first two. Most likely due to how other teams play him and he needs to adjust, which he will as he matures.
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goldielocks Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
@Jeff_R,
I don’t know but I can think of that he didn’t have so much defensive responsibility back then maybe? He was a really dynamic defenseman though.
Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
@goldielocks, Of course, but TM’s system is the only one DD has played in during his NHL career.
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Kenny44 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
@Osaka, But he looked his best at the Olympics under Babcock, right?
Oilers tie it with less then a minute left in the first. 1-1. Whitney scores for the Oil isn’t he an ex duck?
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
@Jeff_R, Yep.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
@Osaka, Dang San Jose scores to make it 2-1.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
@Jeff_R, Cool the Oil tied it up at 2.
Nashville scores with less then a minute left in the first and take a 1-0 lead over the Coyotes.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
@Jeff_R, Phoenix ties it at 1 in the 2nd.
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Things looking good so far for the Kings. Nashville ahead of Coyotes after 1, Ducks and Avs tied at after 2 and Oilers and Sharks tied at 1 in the 2nd. So far so good.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@Jeff_R, Its alot more relxing tonight then last night in Chicago..Got all 3 games on switching back and fourth..
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
@lakingbob(chi), End of 2nd in Edmonton and it is tied at 2, Predators and Coyotes are tied at 1 in the 2nd and Avs and Ducks are tied at 1 in the 3rd.
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Deke'r Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
@Jeff_R, …..so I suppose all three games will be 3pt games….
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
@Deke’r, Hope not but it just might be that way.
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Deke'r Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
@Jeff_R, ….I’m just conditioned for the worst case senario…
Bob Bobson Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:24 am
@Deke’r, Gee, since you are a Kings fan I am surprised you are conditioned for the worst case scenario.
My son Jeff wears his new auction jersery I
got for him and at the last two staples game
it bought the kings luck they won both games
so he will be wearing his Ontario reign jersery
again tomorrow night. If it works good thing
I am taking him to all the rest of home kings game
Get some rest boys and men big game
tomorrow!
Go Kings Go!
Let’s get it back here in LA!
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Deke'r Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
@Gail Weber, ….did he wear it to last Saturdays game vs Vegas…..
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Damn Avs score 2-1.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
@Jeff_R, Ducks go on the PP to tie it.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
@Jeff_R, Selanne scores to tie the game at 2.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
@Jeff_R, Oh man what a save by Hiller after a horrible giveaway by Lubo sent the Avs player on a breakaway.
Nashville scores to take a 2-1 lead over Coyotes.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
@Jeff_R, Dang Coyotes score to tie it at 2.
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Sharks score to take a 3-2 lead. Come on Oil.
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^^^^ keep me updated? XD
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OT in Colorado and Nashville takes a 3-2 lead at the end of 2.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
@Jeff_R, Man Avs win in OT over Ducks and get the extra point. No help from the Ducks and that pretty much ends the Ducks season.
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Damn you Sucks.
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The d*cks are their own worse enemies, what a mess in OT.
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#3 netminder Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
@#3 netminder, ‘worst’
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The Kings need to win like 9 of their remaining 13 to make the playoffs unless on team just craps out of the top.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
@Subby, That team might be Phoenix. Other then beating the Sharks they haven’t been able to win in March.
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Our night has gone from pretty good to pretty bad with the Avs getting 2 points and the Sharks leading. We will be back in 11th if the Sharks win.
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Subby Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
@Jeff_R, I’m no worried about the Avs. We have two games at hand.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
@Subby, I still say the season is the 3 games with San Jose..
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Mars Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
@lakingbob(chi), I agree, we need to put them out of their misery.
Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
@Subby, Especially with there next 3 games at Buffalo, At NJ and at Rangers. That should end there run.
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Scoreboard watching is a waste of time of the Kings don’t win their games. :/
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Mars Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
@Subby, Was that salt or lemon you just put on my cuts?
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Ryan Smyth can’t help his old teammates as the Oil fall to the Sharks. Kings in 11th again.
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Mars Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
@Jeff_R, traitor to the end…..
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Good news is the Coyotes can’t beat anybody except for the Sharks. They are losing now 4-2 against the Predators.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
@Jeff_R, OOPPS 4-3
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
@Jeff_R, 4-3 now.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
@Jeff_R, 10 minutes lets go Preds..
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Thank god we play tomorrow so I dont have to deal with the San Jose-Calgary game.
Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Have to go with Calgary that game. Good news is we will be tied in games played after Thursdays San Jose game against Nashville.
lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Just as long it is in regulation!!!!
Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
@Jeff_R, God dammit Phoenix ties it.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
@Jeff_R, This game sort of reminds me of our game with Nashville.
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finesse hockey Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
@lakingbob(chi), If Phoenix wins here in the last 3 minutes, it will remind me of Detroit… yuck!
lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Really another 3 pt game???
The problem with depending on others to help you out is that you can’t depend on others to help you out.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
@DesertKing, If the Kings take care of business and win there games in regulation or OT and not SO they will be in the best position to make the playoffs.
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linny Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:08 am
@Jeff_R, only problem is they’re not “taking care of business: see loss to Columbus
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:12 am
@linny, So you are saying our season is lost because we lost at Columbus? We are 4-2 in our last six games…If they keep that up they should make the playoffs. I even think they will do better then that even. Look at who the 4 wins were against..Top playoff teams. That who is the bulk of there next 6 games are against. They have a winning record against those teams.
Duncanz Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 1:28 am
@DesertKing, Ahhhhh … the words of the great Yogi Bear!
Right after that, he was seen talking and observed to have said,
“The future sure aint what it used to be, Boo Boo!”.
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DesertKing Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:16 am
@Duncanz,
“Hey Boo Boo, let’s see if we can get us a pik-i-nik basket. Watch out for the ranger, I hear he is from To-ron-to.”
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Kopi, this family of Kings fans wears your jersey proudly — however, I gotta disagree with you on throwing the DVD away. I was the guy that said ditch the Sunday morning skate in Chicago and watch the final five minutes of the Wings game over and over again until you heave. In a later post, I backed off that after seeing the NBC pre-game coverage of the training room video of the guys nursing the battle scars — had you on ice packs — others with gnarly cuts, bruises, dislocations….. so I get it — it is war and its ugly.
Having HEART, however, never stops… you either have it or you don’t… you don’t get HEART back by going thru denial by just trying to forget a nightmare. Kopi, you have been the heart and soul of this team, don’t go soft on us this late in the game. And, by the way, it took one infamous stick (ehh, nightmare) to take us from drinking from the silver chalice to just another season of oh well, next year we will get um — that’s what I think about when I gaze upon the Campbell Conference banner…
I do agree with you though, we gotta take each game and just win. The sad part about the Wings game is that they now know we can be beat (sadly I might add) even with four minutes left in the game. How do you think they are going to fly into our house tomorrow night.
I hope you all think about that…. you need to put the Wings in there place real hard and real early in the game. I hope to see a couple 5 minute majors before the Bob and Jim show takes there first break to sell those biscuits with Brownie. Sutty, it is time to take the leash off of our enforcers — LA Kings need to be feared right now. The Wings get the first taste of what LA is all about — your fans will have all the HEART you need from the stands for added fuel. Take that fuel and rip the HEART right out of Detroit and leave it all there on the ice tomorrow night.
Own the ice… Own the Staples Center… Destroy the Wings.
WE BELIEVE!!!!
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g smith86 Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
@finesse hockey, awesome! You got me fired up!
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Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
@finesse hockey,
Westy, Westy, Westy!!!!
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P1 Kings Fan Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:20 am
@finesse hockey, that post got me jacked!
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Yotes tie it up, looks like its gonna be another bad night for the Kings.
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Dang Preds…OT in Phoenix.
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Bad news is Phoenix gets a point. Good news is if they win it won’t count as an ROW.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
@Jeff_R, Preds!!!!!
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Nashville wins the SO keeping Phoenix at just 1 point, so kinda good news.
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luc20rules Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
@Jeff_R,
Kings opponents for the last 2 playoff spots got 5 of a possible 6 pts tonight.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
@luc20rules, Nobody said it be easy. I am sure throughout the last 3 weeks of the season we will have good nights and bad nights. Hopefully more good then bad.
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I have been pretty negative and have been saying that the Kings aren’t going to make the playoffs (and that was before the trade for JC)but, I also have said many times that if they do get to the dance they could be a handfull for many teams…the Kings making the playoffs would be a reset…a fresh start and a new perspective…just the kind of thing that could finally get this team rolling…they have dealt with an unreal lack of scoring all year and are still in the race to make the playoffs…I still think they will have to start playing playoff hockey right now to get there…they have been too soft lately and it has cost them many games…time to get nasty…time to get gritty and dirty and mean…are you guys going to play on the edge, or fall off of it? Make up your minds because you could save me a lot of time by falling off…Tomorrow is crucial…the Kings need this one…time to step up boys! GKG!
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
@g smith86, Kings will come out flying!
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@g smith86, i meant “bottom left” …thats the win column side
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Thanks to tonight’s bad night our odds to make the playoffs fell 2.4 to 33.2% according to sports club stats website.
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Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
@Jeff_R,
And that is whats wrong with this club. We’re relying on others to get us into the playoffs. That Blows!!
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
@Kissmyblarneystones, I’m sure the team itself isn’t thinking about it. It is the fans mostly. The players know what they have to do.
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Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
@Jeff_R, If their not, they should be. No way in hell we should be in this position!! I’m going to the Game tomorrow, I’ll be the guy wearing the Kopitar jersey screaming at the top of his lungs!! GKG
mash-ola Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
@Jeff_R, The Hockey Gods have it in for the Kings this season, it seems. But rather than finish them off quickly, they’ve decided to torture them, make them bleed slowly before cutting off their heads altogether.
I think this constitutes as cruel and unusually painful torture for the Kings and their fans.
It sucks!!! But hey, it ain’t life and death, either…
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
@mash-ola, When has it ever been easy for Kings fans? They love to torture us.
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
@Jeff_R, Perfect, time to place a bet.
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Tomorrow there are 4 games that involve the Kings in some way. They include…..
Detroit at L.A.
Stars at Wild
Blues at Hawks
Sharks at Flames
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Osaka Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
@Jeff_R, I guess we want the Sharks to win since we have 3 games left with them and only 1 left with Calgary, we could make up points against the Sharks easier.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:48 pm
@Osaka, I don’t know if I want the Sharks to win. I don’t want them to get hot and if they win 2 in a row back to back that could give them a lot of confidence. I rather Calgary win.
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linny Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 6:03 am
@Jeff_R, the only game of consequence is sharks/flames (aside from ours). We’re not catching Dallas, chicago
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:04 am
@linny, And you know this how? Since you are such a soothsayer, what are the lottery numbers this week?
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linny Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
@Jeff_R, first of all lets stick to hockey like we’re supposed to ( and because your retort wasn’t funny). In an earlier reply to me you stated that we “should” make the playoffs if we play really well (paraphrased). According to most of the network analysts we have the toughest schedule remaining of the teams fighting to get in. Most also think that 94-96 points will be needed to get in which means we’d have to go 10-3 which would be about our best 13 game stretch all year. So, after watching hockey (and mostly the kings) for nearly 50 years it seems highly unlikely that we are going to squeak in this year and we certainly aren’t going to pass all those teams you mention because they aren’t ALL going to tank. As far as your lottery numbers go you have a better chance of winning that than the kings do of getting into the playoffs.
Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
@linny, First of yes that retort was out of line and I am sorry for that. Second the Kings schedule if you look at it isn’t as difficult. The difficult part is the next 6 games and then after that the last 7 isn’t as so. Also we don’t need that many teams to stumble. All it would take is One or 2. Most likely those 2 teams are Colorado, as they really have the toughest schedule and less games to play and Phoenix who has only been able to win once in March. The NHL and you can look at there website as predicted that the 8th place team would needs 92-93 points to get in, which would make it so we need a 9-4 record. We are 4-2 in are last 6 games if they continue on that pace they would only need 1 more win. That would be 8-4 in the last 12 games with one more win coming in the 13th game. The last 6 games were just as difficult as our next 6 games, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be possible for the Kings to not do it. Just because they haven’t done it all year, which isn’t exactly correct because they did win 4 in a row in October and they did go on a semi-long stretch where they got points in all games starting with Stevens last coached game and ending in January after Sutter took over. So to say they can’t do it is a mistake. Going 10-3 isn’t so improbable but I am thinking more like an 9-3-1 record.
The good news is Detroit is 16-18-1 on the road.
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Lubo 3
Dl 00
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If the Kings are to make the playoffs they have to win there home games. They have 7 games left at home. If they win all 7 then that would give them 8 out of the 10 games need out of the last 14 games to make the playoffs. If they do that they would only have to win 2 out of there last 6 on the road to give them 94 points. Of course it be better if they get more then 94 but I am not being picky. Here are the 7 home games.
Detroit
Nashville
San Jose
St Louis
Boston
Edmonton
San Jose
While I am not sure if they could win all 7, I do feel they can win at least 5 of them.
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TiredOfIt Reply:
March 12th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
@Jeff_R, One, count it, one non-playoff caliber team. We are going to need a miricle on…..Nobody is helping us right now…..the schedule of the teams in front of us scares me. GKG? I hope so
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TiredOfIt Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 12:01 am
@TiredOfIt, miracle..
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 12:33 am
@TiredOfIt, I don’t think we need a miracle. All we need to do is win most of our games and we should be fine. One of the top 8 teams now will not be there at the end and possibly 2 leaving 2 spots between the Kings, San Jose and Calgary to take over. Colorado is not going to be in the top 8 as they have less games to play and have a killer road trip back east against Buffalo, Rangers and NJ. Phoenix is having a tough time of it and after an amazing February where they peeked too soon they have had a horrible March, only beating the Sharks. Looking at the schedule of those 7 games it really isn’t so difficult. The toughest team on the list is St Louis as they haven’t really done well against them in the last few years. Detroit we should of beat the other night and I believe we will finish the deal Tonight. Boston is having a very difficult time of it and really if Thomas gets injured in any way they might be in real trouble. We also might get Turco that night. Nashville we have beaten 2 out of 3 and I think just like Chicago we will make it 3 out of 4. San Jose we know all about there troubles and we usually play real well against them. Those 3 games will be huge as it just might tell which team makes it and which doesn’t. Kings problem with the Oilers has been scoring and one that I feel is not a problem anymore. So I can easily see them winning all 7 but realistically believe that they will win 5 of them.
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Kopitar will be throwing away the dvd of the 11/12 season and forgetting about it
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Fact is that Detroit is just faster, more skillful, plays smarter and has a better system than we do and the only way we’ll win is by pure luck. They skated rings around us without 4 or 5 top players because they can plug anyone in there and they’re. Just as effective. I wish we had a gm. who just spent all his time studying video of them over the last 20 years and studied their draft strategy. I think they got Zetterberg in the third round and he’s. better than our first round picks.
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fsd1 Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:43 am
@linny, they did not skate rings around us except for the last 5 minutes of the game and when you talk about luck, detroit had plenty of it that game. I like our chances against them tonight. We got Luc like what? 247th or something like that, talk about luck…
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Stuart Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:48 am
@linny, actually, it was their top line that was “just as effective”… Filpula is a standard DET issue forward. Young guy with lots of talent, dangles like crazy, and has more smarts than most players on our roster.
That’s my one, of very few, knocks on DL…he’s too caught up with “character” in players, which is good ‘n all, but I wish he went after players that were SMART, too.
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I think people are going a little overboard with the dire predictions based on how teams are playing at the moment.
There’s still plenty of games left and teams that are hot (Dallas) will go into some type of slump between now and the end of the season. It’s inevitable. the same as teams playing poorly will put something together between now and the end (SJ).
The Kings just need to focus on what they’re doing and get points every night. It’s that simple. We all watch to see what other tems are doing, but you can’t go crazy over it. there’s too much time left for things to remain status quo.
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pr0cess Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 7:42 am
@nykingfan, Um well this is how it has been, and we haven’t been able to win “our” games… So i don’t think all hope is lost but we are not helping are self’s by not getting the job done. This team needs to find a way to win in regulation and not give any points to anyone.
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nykingfan Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 8:15 am
@pr0cess,
I agree…We can’t be losing games like we did against Columbus. That was unacceptable.
The Detroit game was just one of those games we’ve seen all too much this year. We played well enough to get the points, but came away with nothing.
I understand what you’re saying about regulation wins, but we just need points every night. Whether we get those in reg or OT/SO it really doesn’t matter because only 4 remaining games are against teams that we are in a tight battle for the playoffs (SJ, Calgary). It’s always important to win in regulation for a number of reasons, but the points are what counts right now.
We’re 4-2 over our last 6 games. I think that pace for the remainder of the year will get us in the playoffs. Easier said than done.
Tonight’s a huge test.
We need to beat Detroit at home. No excuses!
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pr0cess Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:10 am
@nykingfan, Ya i know there is a lot of time still but the sense of urgency needs to be there and i think its lacking, i don’t try to be gloom and doom, But ya team needs to get things together…
Stuart Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:14 am
@pr0cess, there isn’t really that much time left… gulp
pr0cess Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:28 am
@Stuart, Ya i know i guess i meant as in we have more then 2 games kind of time…
nykingfan Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:37 am
@pr0cess,
The urgency needs to be there every night for the Kings. Find me a game on the schedule where it would be ok to come away with no points? It’s that urgent.
My original point was that people seem to be overly concerned about the outcome of the other teams in contention. When they all win, gloom and doom seems to take over.
My point was it’s too early to worry about what the other team are doing. We all look at the scores and standings, but as long as the Kings take care of their own business, they won’t have to worry about the other teams.
pr0cess Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:06 am
@nykingfan, Ya i hear you man… And maybe the team is doing the same? Thinking they can count on others helping? I hope no but they can say they don’t worry about what other teams are doing, But there human just like the rest of us..
LA_1968 Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@nykingfan, You seem spot on IMO. Win 2/3 of our games like we’ve done the last six and we should make it. No real help from hockey gods needed. Statistically Calgary’s -18 goal differential jumps out at me. Also Colorado’s 2 extra games played looks weak in the standings. We won’t back in so we do need to take care of business. No big winning streak but also no slump.
scores last night didn’t seem to help any…everybody we compete against got a point or two…
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Cesar A Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:27 am
@Jack, If the Kings do what they are capable of doing from tonight’s game, then they will not need to score watch other games. If the Kings played like they did against Nashville Predators at home, then they will be okay from here on. However, if they have a letdown or play like they did in Columbus elimination from the playoffs sooner than expected. The Kings should not expect other teams to help them when they are not playing. The way that Dallas is playing going for the Pacific Division title is a long shot.
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Cesar A Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:31 am
@Cesar A, I meant the way they played against Chicago at home.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:44 am
@Cesar A, Most of what you said is true. If the Kings take care of business they won’t have to worry about other teams so much. Whatever happens will take care of itself. However I don’t think Dallas is going to be able to keep up the streak they are on and I feel that in going into the last week of the season will be a dogfight for the division title.
Capt Jam Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 9:59 am
@Cesar A,
Fortunately, there aren’t too many “soft” (on paper, at least) opponents left on the Kings’ schedule. The two games with the Oilers are the only ones where I can see them calling it in to begin the game and presuming a win from a lesser opponent means they don’t have to actually beat the other team.
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ESPN News – Penguins C Sidney Crosby will return Thursday after missing 40 games due to concussion-like symptoms
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pr0cess Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:26 am
@Subby, and will play one game and be out again
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Subby Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:34 am
@pr0cess, I’m not a Crosby fan but I do hope that isn’t the case.
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Jeff_R Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:39 am
@pr0cess, This league needs Crosby and they should do whatever they can to protect him. I wish him well and to be healthy and strong for the rest of his career and if he has any other injuries that they are minor.
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DesertKing Reply:
March 13th, 2012 at 10:36 am
@Subby,
Release The Crosby!
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Very important game. #1 No Panic #2Concentration and full 60 minute hard work..if so..than 4-1 Kings…if not …”adios” playoffs ,adios DL.
…btw, somebody told me ,there is a secret japanise formula,Making hot dogs from pancakes..HMM.
would penner fight for his live or join Avery and trew his scates to pasific ocean
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..pacific..(come on man)
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the big bayback! do-do-do REVENGE! I’m mad!
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