For those who aren’t aware of the Elias Sports Bureau, they do an amazing job of finding statistical notes on players and teams, on very short notice. I have no idea how they do it, bu they’re good.
Elias came up with this note (on ESPN.com) on Dustin Brown’s hat trick last night:
“Brown’s first two goals came on L.A. power plays and his third goal was scored while the Kings were shorthanded. He’s the third player in Kings history to record a hat trick with at least one power play goal and one shorthanded goal but no even-strength tallies. The first two were Bernie Nicholls in April 1989 and Glen Murray in April 1998. Like Brown, they each scored two power play goals and one shorthanded goal.”
Nerds retiring to their nerditorium to look up stats (see: Steve Hartmann)
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congrats Brownie, you deserved it! Now, I believe it’s time for Kopitar to do the same and I’m expecting it shortly!
Hope this an J.C. arrival is just the boost he needs…
And eventhough most of you will say that I’m crazy, but i still believe that Pancake will turn thing around for him (really have my fingers crossed on that one)…
things are looking bright! GKG
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Kingsfan661 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@Jure_SLO, When you mentioned the arrival of J.C. I thought I’d missed the Rapture again! Hopefully this J.C. is a real savior.
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Dilapidus Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@Jure_SLO,
I’ve been there all the way with Pancakes but I think the well is pretty much poisoned at this point. I liked his play in the last game but 4 million is a lot to watch a guy learn or re-learn guts hockey.
I think he will keep playing after this year but he’s in danger today. I’d throw him at any team I traded to clear out the cap space and bring back Lokti. I think he’s looking at maybe 1.2M next year .. that said.. I think he’s fitting in on the 3rd line so I’d pay him the 1.2 if he could show consistency and constant improvement.
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Is that his high school graduation picture?
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IceGuy Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@Pesus,
A Reminder to Kings Mgt:
You do know that there is a whole, thriving industry in LA that produces Headshot Photos, right?
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Marty's Fists Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
@IceGuy, If you want glam try the Abby in West Hollywood. If you want hockey who cares about the looks.
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Here’s another headline:
“Kings 5 on 5 Woes Continue!” : )
Nahh… Massive hatrick, Brownie! A better one would be:
“Brown Delivers!”
- No more downs, only UPS!!!
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it's good to be the king Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
@Duncanz, amen!
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Excellent game by Brown. Couldn’t be happier for him, and the team. Keep working hard and everything will work itself out.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@Dominick, Big 2 games Monday and Tuesday and we need them both. Stay like we did last night and we will be in it again.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
@lakingbob(chi),
Exactly. Keep the offensive scheme the same, aka, just let them play and ignore the past direction reference the offensive strategy.
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I think what coach Sutter said to Carter about just going out and just play, along with all the trade talk about Brown got this team cranked up to do just that “just play”. Great game by the whole team,everybody stood out.
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VAN COUVER 1 DALLAS 0
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Duncanz Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
@lakingbob(chi), You win any $$ last night??
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@Duncanz, Lots of beverage and pride more then $$$$
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Duncanz Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Ahaaaa, good on ya! You must have been reveling!!
lakingbob(chi) Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Oh ya the Kings come here Sunday March 11th.. Bloody Marys start early and I am sure that JQ will be in net.. Hope to see Rich!!!
It was one great game by the Kings Captain Brown..
So glad Brown got the Kings first hat trick this season..He was the man on the mission and by that by getting a hat trick
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I believe they also mentioned last night that the last King’s home hat trick was by Brown. Brown was our leading scorer last year and is second our third in scorig on the team right now. Sorry, but you cannot trade this guy. The fact that so many other teams wants him tells you to not trade him.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
@DesertKing, I really do believe that Bernier could be gone but does Sutter know how he plays against NASHVILLE???????????
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DesertKing Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
@lakingbob(chi),
You are 100% correct about Bernier owning Nashville. Hopefully he gets the start unless Quick is working on another shut-out streak. Reference Bernier being traded, I don’t think so. Fox mentioned last night that he thinks the Kings have one more move coming, but in his words, it will be “a small one.” I can’t see any trade involving Bernier being a small one.
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
@DesertKing, I had to watch the Chicago feed so I was without Bob and JIM.. and everyone last night..
Jeff_R Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@DesertKing, I know Bernie does well against Nashville, however if Sutter boots Quick after a shutout it would be akin to Murray doing it last October after Quick had 3 SO’s and we know the outrage went over that. Quick does well in streaks. After the last 2 so called bad games he seems to be back in a groove so let it ride. Whether Bernie goes or not tomorrow remains to be seen. I do agree if he does it would be a big trade versus what might end up being 1-2 small ones.
Dominick Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@DesertKing, Not to mention that even though he spent most of the season as a right winger, he is our top scoring left winger.
Funny how we lost Gagne and Parse. Penner hasn’t contributed much. We lose production on 3 left wingers, DL trades for a right winger, and everybody wants to trade the 1 guy who’s produced more points as a part time left winger, than any left winger we have.
Am I the only one who is even looking at the Kings problems?
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Duncanz Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@Dominick, That was a non sequiter, Dom.
I don’t think you’ve been yourself, lately. : )
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Duncanz Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
@Duncanz, OIC.. ….
Dominick Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
@Duncanz, Probably right.
DesertKing Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
@Dominick,
Couldn’t have said it better. Just imagine how much more Brown would score if we just let them play and ditch the ompon strategy. There is a reason so many other teams want him.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
@DesertKing,
“Kompon”
Dominick Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
@DesertKing, “Tampon”
Buster Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
@DesertKing,
Shouldn’t it be spelled Kmpn since he produces no offense?
Where are the people on here that were saying Brown had no finish?
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Stuart Reply:
February 27th, 2012 at 7:59 am
@AZ King, that would be me! He had the nice backhand-forhand-goal, and picked a nice 5-hole on the shorty, but his first goal was purely LUCK with a little deflection before hitting top corner, otherwise it would’ve been in the chest, and the best play would’ve been to the wide open wing crashing the net…
Believe me, DB still lacks hands even though he did put in 2 butes.
Overall, great game and I can’t deny or talk that away. I will ate my crow that night, but other servings will be based on a night-to-night basis.
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How horrible is our offense? Quick gets his league high 7th shut out of the season against the 5th highest scoring team and doesn’t even make the top 3- Stars of the Game. #kindasad
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That’s leadership.
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Off topic…. I have been reading alot of comments here lately since the JC trade. It honestly cracks me up that certain posters question JC’s ability but also were the same posters who thought Scott Parse was an offensive juggernaut ahaha watch some other teams games or look up JC on youtube before you make such “interesting comments” about actual gifted players.
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puck73 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@Puckn-A, I never questioned Jeff Carters ability. I have alway known that he is a top 3 winger. That is a no brainer for sure. And I make that trade every time.
As far as Scott Parse is concerned, he is a finisher, and a plus player every time he is healthy. I have no doubt that he and Gagne would have performed much better under Sutter and Nicholls then the “Heavy on the stick boy” TM.
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Puckn-A Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
I definitely wasn’t reffering to you puck, you’re the last person I’d question about hockey knowledge. Parse to me when not injured was a good finisher but he took some very questionable shots from Ovechkin-esque angles without that true sniper ability to sneak them in like the Ovechkin, Vanek , Hull type of shooters.
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neil Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
@puck73, I really believe the season wouldve been alot better if Parse and Gagne was healthy…With those two…we really wouldve ran out 4 good lines…DL’s biggest mistake was not having a back up plan for injuries to our forwards…even was too late promoting King and Nolan…I would give Parse a contract at a low price next year to see if he could come back..he is very talented…just unlucky…
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puck73 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
@neil, I would bring Parse back at a discounted rate as well because of his history of injuries. If he is brought back and stays healthy I believe DL would hit the jackpot. I think a healthy Parse is capable of scoring 30 or more under Sutter and Nicholls.
Michael J. Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@neil,
I hope the Kings give him another chance too. Maybe a two-way contract?
IceGuy Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
@neil,
If Parse is to remain a King, only a low TWO WAY contract.
Let him rehab in Manchester and once ready, move up and down as necessary.
That’s the deal, take it or leave it.
Seems A Good Fellow Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
@neil, -1… I think there comes a time when you have to cut ties with players and with Parsers bad hip, it’s time to cut. That tie.
g smith86 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
@puck73, agreed…Parse, when healthy is a plus player ( +18 over the last two seasons) which is the upside…we saw he had potential and a good skill set and maybe if given the chance he would have put up bigger offensive numbers, but in 59 games two years ago he had 24 points and 11 goals and last year he only saw 5 games…it might be a little bit of a stretch to think he could come back to be a 30 goal scorer…IMHO
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Michael J. Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
@Puckn-A,
Who is that? I thought there were only four Parse supporters here.
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wes Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
@Michael J., a once-and-for-all healthy Scooter (Scott Parse) would be dynamite. he’s a finisher. although he’s only played parts of three seasons (I’m thinking 14 aside from his rookie year) he has one of the best career shooting percentages among active NHLers. Healthy, and in a top-six role, he’s a 30+ goal guy that also forechecks tenaciously and is a good playmaker/passer.
Absolutely count me among the “Parse supporters.” I hope he’s healthy next season, Lombardi knows his potential, and with his injury history he should come at an affordable price. I’d like to see a healthy Scooter back in camp next September. I’ve heard he could actually be ready to return in April (playoffs), but that sounds like a reprise of last April when Parse returned but didn’t look ready.
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It was obviously a huge team effort when your all star goal tender, records a shutout, and is not one of the 3 stars of the game. Kings would move back into playoff position today with a regulation win by Vancouver in Dallas. The key, is to build on last nights win, and receive not just that kind of effort and execution some of the time, but consistently shift after shift period after period, game after game. GKG
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g smith86 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
@Steven H Brown, yes, consistancy…we have yet to see that this year…
not to be a downer, but if the pattern holds true, the Kings will be lucky to score a goal in Nashville tomorrow…
Break the pattern!!!
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JJ tallied a -1 in his first game with Columbus….
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Duncanz Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@rontheking, That’s like a +3 anywhere else!
On another note, Kyle Quincey scored a goal the other night for Detroit.
How come we always trade away our best scorers ….
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Michael J. Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
@Duncanz,
Quincey scored 4 goals in his one year as a King.
Where were you last year when he went 21 0 1 1 18 -5 ???
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Duncanz Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
@Michael J., The 1st part of the post didn’t give it away?
I Guess I needed the smiley icon after my comment again, after all …
g smith86 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
@rontheking, I like JJ, but his plus/minus with the Kings was never good…in fact, in looking at his stats i was shocked to see how much of a minus player he was with the Kings…and as much as people in here like to bash DD…he has been big time Plus player over his short career…Look at it for what it’s worth, but maybe that is why JJ was traded…even Voynov is a plus player
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With Carter..can the Kings be in the top half of the league scoring here on out??? With the Defense in the top 3…The Kings can be tough in the playoffs…but they need to be in the top half on offense….
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Nice mugshot, Dustin.
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i’m very happy for brownie…
last night was a perfect example of “call and response” – gm’s called us about him and dusty responded accordingly…
i’m not sure if the kings have better captain candidates or not…and to me, that’s somewhat irrelevant because i’m not sure what brown has done to play himself out of the role…the whole team has suffered on offense the whole year…i don’t think it’s because of brown’s lack of leadership…
in fact, you can make the case that his even-keeled temperament and lack of “twitter” mindset has been exactly what the team has needed through their struggles this season…
i don’t want to see him traded, but i could understand that happening…and the reason for that is because once it’s known that yr captain is on the market – and by all accounts, verified from legitimate, reliable sources, brown was no doubt on the market – it’s very hard to take the sentiment back as a team that you didn’t entertain the possibility of replacing whom you call yr team leader…
the next 22+ hours should be interesting….
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LA_1968 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
@variable, Yes, the next 22+ will tell the tale for sure but I maintain that Brown was probably part of an offer for Nash. Otherwise it didn’t make sense. To me Brown shouldn’t feel slighted if he was on the table for Nash. Not the same as “being on the market” as McKenzie made it seem.
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Nicholls has been working with Brown on this in practice
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puck73 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
@wavesinair, On what? How to handle being traded?
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variable Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
@puck73,
on how to score two pp’s and a shortie in the same game for a hattie….just like bernie did in ’89…
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Dominick Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@puck73, Boo!
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Michael J. Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
@Dominick,
Puckn-A Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
@Puckn-A, Why do you want to trade Brown for Pominville? They are so similar and Pominville is just as streaky. I know he out scores him but Brown is a much better checker.
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Dominick Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@Puckn-A, Yes lets trade the only left winger we have left who can score for another right winger. This isn’t lets make a wise decision, this is lets make a deal with Pt Sajack.
DesertKing Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
@wavesinair,
Fire Kompon!! Hire Nicholls!!! (Sorry, couldn’t resist. You have to have some negativity)
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@DesertKing, Its no negativity let him go and get BERNIE in. Although he already is in!!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
@DesertKing, Wouldn’t be surprised if this is done in the off season.
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VAN 2 DAL 1 start of third. VAN 92-0-3 when leading after two. So looking good.
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LA_1968 Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
@LA_1968, ninth place for us. Jeeez.
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Steve W Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@LA_1968, Canucks choked! 3-2 Dallas in OT.
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DBking Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
@LA_1968, Watching this game made me realize we can’t scoreboard watch. Just need to focus on the task at hand – winning every night. I also hate rooting for Vancouver so that was weird!
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When was the last natural hat trick?
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dang, Dallas won…I heard the Min commentators mention a riff between DB and MR regarding who’s team the Kings are…sounds made up to me.
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Was Dustin in high school when that pic was taken?
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It’s hard to hate the Ducks…and I only do because they are my teams rival, but they seem to have exactly what the Kings do not have…legit threats from all over the ice…they can beat teams in many different ways…they have speed and skill up and down the line up…I am shocked that the Kings are actually ahead of this team in points…How can that be? My biggest fear is that they will rally (like they are doing right now) and make the playoffs…and force the Kings out in doing so
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