The Kings have acquired forward Jeff Carter from Columbus in exchange for Jack Johnson and a first-round pick. The pick is conditional. If the Kings miss the playoffs this season, it’s a 2013 first-round pick. If they make the playoffs, the Blue Jackets can choose either the 2012 or 2013 first-round pick. Barring any surprises, Carter should be able to play for the Kings on Saturday. He will have to pass a physical, as is standard after a trade, and the Kings play at 5 p.m. Saturday.
So, this is the “big splash” that many predicted/hoped the Kings would make in an attempt to boost the lowest-scoring offense in the NHL. Carter, who turned 27 last month, is a three-time 30-goal scorer, with a career high of 46 goals for the Philadelphia Flyers in 2008-09. In 500 NHL games, Carter has 196 goals and 172 assists. Carter signed an 11-year, $58-million contract extension with the Flyers in Nov. 2010, but last June the Flyers traded Carter to Columbus for Jakub Voracek and first- and third-round draft picks. Carter has 10 years remaining on that contract, with a salary-cap hit of just over $5.27 million per season. Incidentally, Carter was traded from Philadelphia to Columbus on the same day the Flyers traded Mike Richards to the Kings. Richards and Carter are close friends and came under criticism from some members of the Philadelphia media for purported off-ice activities.
Johnson signed a seven-year, $30.5-million contract extension last year, so he has six years remaining, at a salary-cap hit of $4.35 million. Johnson has eight goals and 16 assists in 61 games this season.
woop!
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markisonfire Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
@DanielC, I feel badly for Jack.
At the same time, we just got a lot better offensively.
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DanielC Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
@markisonfire, I feel bad for Jack as well. Dont get me wrong but we don’t skip a beat defensively with Voynov in the wings.
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MindGeyser Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@DanielC, You sure about that? Voynov isn’t particularly physical.
DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@DanielC, JJ wasn’t physical this year either
rogiesbackup Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
@DanielC, Bring down Richardson…..he’s not impressing me as much as Lokti.
Bill M. Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@markisonfire, “At the same time, we just got a lot better offensively.”
The problem is…I’m not convinced we did. If this solves the problem, great, but if the scoring still doesn’t improve, if Carter comes in and disappears like everyone else who’s come in to help score, where does that leave us?
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Morgueanna Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@Bill M., that leaves us with Lombardi packing his bags. Honestly, if this gets rid of him I’m hoping we don’t make it past the first round. We need more than a few trades to fix our team, we need leadership from the GM and a coach that is willing to let the players think outside of the box instead of rewarding mediocre playtime but good effort (Sutter).
tantrum4 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@Bill M., That leaves us rid of a defenseman that was -93 in his career. We still win.
Ose Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@Bill M., that’s because he played as a king all his career jj was an ironman can’t remember the last time he did. Not play cant say that for JC
rogiesbackup Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
@Bill M., Then we need an offensive minded coach to go along with our goal scorers.
kingofkings Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
@Bill M.,
well what everybody forget is that his contract has 10 more left and doughty has 6 more year so there go your cap space for many year to come. the Kings should have fire DL before he this dumb trade.why are so interest from form Flyer and they haven’t done anything to help us at all.
tkecanuck341 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@markisonfire, Penner had 20+ goals before he got traded to the Kings.
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DanD Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@tkecanuck341, Carter is NOT Dustin Penner.
tkecanuck341 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@DanD, Mike Richards had 20+ goals before he got traded to the Kings. My guess is that Carter gets no more than 7-8 goals over the final 22 games.
tkecanuck341 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@DanD, Assuming Williams and Gagne (when he’s healthy) play on Kopitar’s wings, and Nolan and Brown play on Richards’s wing, who do you suggest we put on Carter’s wing? You realize he’s going to be playing with King/Penner and Lewis/Richardson, right?
mrbrett7 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@tkecanuck341, Carter will play wing with Richards as he did in Philly. He really hasn’t played Center much in years.
King$ Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@tkecanuck341,
Carter does NOT play centre on the 3rd line man. There is no way. He plays wing on Richards or Kopi’s lines (probably Richards to start) OR richards moves to wing and carter plays up the middle on 2
-I’m sure a combo of the above will happen but there is absolutely no way Carter lines up on 3
LB Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@markisonfire,
I feel the same way, this sucks for Jack…but it’s the right move for the Kings.
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gralx Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@markisonfire, Yep, now the kings have 1 player on the roster with a hat trick this year.
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In the Net Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
@markisonfire, Well how about the next one: Kopi and Bernier for Nash + Mason. Then it’s
Nash-Carter-Williams
Nolan-Richards-Brown
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Christian T Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@DanielC, I already miss Johnson but have been saying for two years that we were going to lose a really good player just before we actually take that step. I wish it wasn’t Johnson but it had to be someone. Good luck JJ. Kill Jack Kill but not against us.
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Christian T Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@DanielC, And we still have a pretty good backup goalie to move some time in the future.
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TheZamboniMechanic2 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
@DanielC,
fabulous…..all the Kings need now are 6 new forwards for a 3rd and 4th line.
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Hooray for Plan B !
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@jeffreyryan, you mean “throw out the original plan and hope like hell that this works because the GM is gonna get canned for sure if it doesn’t”?
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@jeffreyryan, As in:
You’re looking to be in 10th place after the weekend. What’s your plan DL?
DL: First, I plan to soil myself. Then, I will regroup and come up with Plan B.
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Central Coast King Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@Kenny44, LMAO! Nice.
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USHA#17 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@jeffreyryan,
Try again. The friggin’ idiot got burned again.
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it's good to be the king Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
@USHA#17, Two stats to think about….
1)In the last four seasons Prior to this season only Ovechkin, Kovalchuck, Iginla, and Heatley have scored more than the 144 goals that Carter has scored.
2)Since the beginning of the 2007-2008 season, Johnson’s rookie year, he has far and away the worst minus rating in the league at minus-85. (Brendan Witt, at minus-60, is next closest.)
As a kings fan losing the potential of JMFJ is tough but ultimately the stat above is a very telling stat. It would be a lot tougher to lose him if the kings didnt have Voynov(33gms, 11pts, +4 & 3 yrs younger) ready to replace him.
In my humble opinion the only possible downside to me is the length of carter’s contract but we shall see….
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@jeffreyryan, Plan “A” might come around this summer.
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like the trade, not sure what will happen but hoping for the best!
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Richards is waiting at the bar…
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DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@MickSorley, a few beer should loosen his grip on his stick and allow him to score a few goals.
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luc20rules Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
@DEH, Richards & Carter are now likely teammates for about 9 years to come. Thats alot of Cervezas. Note to self by part ownership in ESPN Zone at LA Live.
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RoyalPain Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@MickSorley,
I’ll buy rounds for the rest of the season if they start scoring goals.
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JobbyPaws23 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@RoyalPain, Ill pitch in also if they start to score some goals lol
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KingsFan Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@MickSorley, Oh you know he is!! He’s been reunited with his old club hopping buddy. haha! Nothing but respect for Richards though- play hard, work hard!
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DiggerRocket Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@KingsFan, If that’s what it takes to get their swagger on… club it up boys!
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jlhamon Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@MickSorley,
+1
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goldielocks Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@MickSorley,
Or preparing the party.
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tbrads Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@goldielocks, They are going to own Ercole’s.
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SOOO pumped!!!!!!!!!!!! LA just moved into 1st in the division with that trade!!!
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Brian Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@LUCALACA, Hell no we didn’t lmao .
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Kramsteezy Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@LUCALACA,
Hahahaha!!! BOOM
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qreptilrs Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@LUCALACA,
Not close and if that team to the north gets Nash this trade could really look bad.
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
@qreptilrs, I would want them to have Nash….means sharks will have to loose either Pavelski, Thornton, Couture.
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damn i’m gonna miss JMFJ. Good luck in Columbus!!!
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Simarosa Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
@Derek,
Same here, good luck Jack.
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cpmc29 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@Simarosa, Watch this blog blow up. When Jack becomes a Norris Finalist.
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Ike Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@cpmc29, Not with that plus minus.
poe Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@Derek, I second that.
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DiggerRocket Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
@Derek, He just never really turned into the player we hoped he would be. It will probably be good for him to get away from Doughty and be “the man” somewhere else. He just never put the “MF” in the JMJF while he was here. Great guy though….good luck JJ!!
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DailyMehow Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@Derek,
Fight on, JMFJ.
I’ll always root for you when you aren’t playing the Kings.
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LAHockeyGirl Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
@DailyMehow, Liked JJs integrity and team-focus….much better than Doughty. JJ has great potential–and at times has brilliant moves; but never elevated it high enough to be a Rob Blake type of player. We lose his poor plus/minus…but will miss him. Good luck. HOpe Carter helps and doesn’t become another Penner. Wish we could unload Penner –waive him off. Wanted Nash….for Bernier and JJ. That was a trade worth making. Not sure about this one. !st round pick in ’12 or ’13 is a big pick. Would have given that for Nash….not for Carter. We’ll see.
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LB Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@Derek, Isn’t Ohio State in Columbus? And Jack is a Michigan man….ouch.
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MK Ultra Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
@Derek, OK. JJ’s not gonna read this.
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Pili Reply:
February 24th, 2012 at 3:36 am
@Derek, Yeah I already miss #3 too. I wish him the best.
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Crazy.
Awesome.
King – Kopitar – Williams
Carter – Richards – Brown
Nice.
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Helvetica Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
@markisonfire, I’m interested in seeing Carter, Richards, and Williams on one line to be honest.
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Christian T Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@Helvetica, I’m interested in seeing if we can get Gagne back to play on that line and then maybe our Brown-Kopi-Williams line can be successful again.
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@Christian T, The line of Kopi, Williams, and Gagne supposively had “really good” chemistry yet this team broke them up??? What about, Nolan richards and King…that was good too, yet they’re apart.
Kramsteezy Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@markisonfire,
King on the first? No way. If anything, it’s:
Carter – Kopitar – Williams
Nolan – Richards – Brown
King sent down to bring Voynov up.
Richards and Brown have played okay together past two games.
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DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@Kramsteezy, Wait… King has been the better winger. Keep King!! Maybe give Nolan more time in MAN. It wouldn’t surprise me if they send down Lokti to bring up VV.
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DiggerRocket Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@DEH, send down Lotki to keep King & Nolan up…and bring up Voynov.
I’m getting bored of Lotki holding on to the puck in non-dangerous areas.
Harrison Merkin Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@Kramsteezy, Do not put Carter on a line with AK. AK is the abyss for scoring wingers. I love Anze but has anyone played well on his wing? Let MR and JC [Ha we have a JC on our team-Must be fate] do what they did in Philly.
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DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@Harrison Merkin, no put AK on the wing of Carter or Richards.
hockeynerd Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@Kramsteezy, King has been a great winger why would you send him down? Nolan while I like him and is a good player, could use some more time in Manchester. Between the two of them King is more polished.
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slantslant28 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@markisonfire,
Flip Carter and Brown. Brown has been ok at LW.
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slantslant28 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@markisonfire,
Flip Carter and Brown. Brown has been ok at LW.
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Tony Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@markisonfire, really? name another Cup contender that would have King on their top line? that’s a joke
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hockeynerd Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:23 pm
@Tony, your question/post is stupid, other teams don’t have underachieving top 6 forwards the way we do, brown Stoll Penner name a LW on our current roster that has been playing better then King? He has been solid since his call up.
unless we make a trade for a top 6 LW or SG gets healthy I see him staying put on the 2nd line, I wouldn’t mind seeing him as our 3rd LW but until we get SG or acquire another LW he is doing just fine where he is. He is probably one of the only positives that has come out of this pathetically underachieving team in the last couple weeks.
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markisonfire Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
@Tony, what else would you suggest? The Carter/Richards line becomes our top line, to be honest.
Carter – Richards – Williams
Brown – Kopitar – Lewis
Richardson – Loktionov – King
Clifford – Fraser – Penner
I guess?
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MindGeyser Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
@markisonfire, Best I could do:
King Kopitar Williams
Clifford Richards Carter
Richardson Loktionov Brown
Nolan Stoll Lewis
Only one of these lines should be overly concerned with D.
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kingCow Reply:
February 24th, 2012 at 12:58 am
@markisonfire,
I think,
Carter – Kopitar – Williams
Brown – Richards – King
for the top two lines would be more likely. IMO.
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EPIC. FAIL.
Selling the rest of my seats. Have fun at the golf course in april, Kings.
Have fun looking for a job next season, Deano.
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Mucker Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@Ben W, Agreed…but seems you and me are the only ones with our heads screwed on straight!
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djspock92 Reply:
February 24th, 2012 at 1:26 am
@Mucker, cause Johnson was sooooo good defensively? Look at every stat sheet, qualcomm, etc. Johnson was by far our worse defenseman defensively speaking. (excluding Randy Jones)
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NOPE
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Well at least we don’t have to watch all 1,000,000 head fakes he does during the PP.
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Kramsteezy Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@tacomakingsfan,
Nice.
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Kramsteezy Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
@tacomakingsfan,
I think you mean headfakes that lose the puck during the PP?
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Mike in Oregon Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@tacomakingsfan, Cold, but funny! JJ just got sentenced to hell. Hockey jail.
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Bummed for JJ.. Stoked for the Kings!
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DiggerRocket Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@MickSorley, Why? … Columbus is a lot like Manhattan Beach…hahahaha!
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I like this deal, it’s just that I wished we gave them a higher pick. Columbus fans are liking this deal, too.
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Yea baby!!!!!!!!!!
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so are we completely ruled out of the NASH trade now????
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Nikko Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@LUCALACA, Columbus isn’t interested in Bernier, so probably.
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MickSorley Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@LUCALACA, Yes. They don’t want anything else we have to offer.
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tkecanuck341 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@LUCALACA, I don’t think Nash gets moved before the trade deadline. Columbus will get a lot more for him in the offseason, when there are no “buyers” or “sellers” and everyone can participate.
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Kramsteezy Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@LUCALACA,
San Jose will get him and go 20-0-0 down the stretch to win the Presidents Trophy and then he will have one assist in 4 playoff games as SJ gets swept in first round.
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JobbyPaws23 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@Kramsteezy, If this was facebook this would be “liked” by millions lol
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OC King Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
@Kramsteezy, Why am I feeling that is plausible hahah
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Duncanz Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
@Kramsteezy, By JC & Kings !
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Much respect for JJ! Best of luck in CBJ.
Carter….Prove everyone wrong and get your ish together…to quote George W….BRING IT ON!!
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Kramsteezy Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@Cup B4 I Die,
Hi Kyle
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Pancakes II, double stack…at least according to Mike Milbury.
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@SSE6, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@SSE6, Millbury is an idiot,you need to look at Carters stats and compare it with JJ’s and I know they play different positions.All the rumors about Carter may be just that,why don’t we listen to what Ricky and Gags,Stevens and Willy have to say instead, they are much more informed than Pilsbury.
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Yeah, Poor JJ. From one rebuild to another!
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im excited for this deal. carter is a goal scorer! gonna miss jack but i also think we need one more piece of offense for this team
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Wow, this is a whole new team. Call us the Philadelphia Flyers of Los Angeles. The King Flyers? Or does that sound too much like a little red wagon? Oh, that’s right, Richards and Carter won’t go on the wagon, so perhaps we can be the Los Angeles DrinKings…
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 pm
@HalfCrowned, If Carter turns out to be as “lazy” as the doomsayers here proclaim, with Carter and Penner we could be the SofaKings
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Not overjoyed to see JJ go, but happy to see the Bernier wasn’t in the mix. We need more offense, so hopefully this will help…
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Simarosa Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@InTheCrease,
Wonder if there is another trade in the works that may involve Bernier.
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Wow! I hope this works. Carter better play his a** off!
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We’ll miss you Jack.
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I like the trade. Not the best contract to absorb because of the years but I think Voynov has more upside than Jack Johnson and he’s younger. Johnson wasn’t great on defense and his +/- showed it. Voynov is a better two way player. Hopefully Carter will spark this team.
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I watched Carter in Philly and we has one sickest shots in the NHL, a true sniper just getting in his prime. Could be LA’s first 50 goal scorer in a long time, I also expect VV to be called up ASAP, Penner will not play again this season, Hemsky as a rental could happen too…
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brian spain Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@xrosczech, I say get Penner with Kopi and Williams, put brown Richards and Carter together, Gagne in for Brown when he returns. Or gagne with Kopi.
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xrosczech Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
@brian spain, No offense but just purely from watching Penner play the past 4-5 years he has not shown much care, winning the Stanley Cup so early and that huge contract sheet killed it for him, really nothing to play for
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broncokings Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
@xrosczech, no to hemsky and penner
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Remember to pour one out for “Johnson shoots! … Wide!”
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Mikey Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@CL, *headfake, shoots wide*
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@Mikey, not gonna miss that….but good luck JJ.
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Bootz Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
@CL,
Couldn’t have said it better.
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(taking deep breaths)
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Looking forward to the poll. Want to see the big picture where everybody stands on DL’s most important trade ever.
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I hate this trade. Lombardi will be gone middle of next season
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Todd Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@Adam,
Jack Johnson honestly was not getting it done and we can bring Voynov up who has a more complete game on both ends of the ice. Jack Johnson is overrated.
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Adam Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@Todd, I agree Jack has struggled and Voynov can fill his spot but I am not a fan of Carter and his contract scares me. This is your Los Angeles Kings for a long time to come. I hope they prove me wrong but the both of them being traded from Philly could not have been simple b/c of office “media” hype.
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Todd Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@Adam,
Carter is a good talent. His chemistry with Richards is good also. The contract is definitely scary but not the worse cap hit for what he brings. Fact is Penner and Stoll will be gone after this season. The cap will go up and hopefully we can lure Parise to LA.
Kinglers55 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@Todd, 100% agree, the Kings can affor to get rid of him because of how solid our defence and goalies are. Offence is what we need and offence is what we got, along with the natural chemistry of Richards and Carter. Look for Richards to play will ALOT of enthusiasm
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Bob Bobson Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@Adam, if the kings don’t make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs you won’t have to wait that long.
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Adam Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@Bob Bobson, and the fact they got our 1st smells of desperation from Dean. Both players have risk and reward and should have been a straight trade if anything.
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apol21 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@Adam, Agree, should have been a straight trade. DL desperate.
Seems A Good Fellow Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@Adam, my feelings are this… Either the offense turns around and everyone from the fans to management is happy, Lombardi and Sutter live another year or nothing changes, Lombardi gets canned, we bring in a new GM who fires the staff and we bring in new blood to change the offensive side of the system
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Thanks JJ.
Welcome to LA JC.
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Great trade….now open up the system…..get king and nolan on the 3rd line….bring back vv…
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“They had to do something.” That’s the phrase we’ll most often hear. Carter comes in and pops 10 goals in the last 20 games, we’ll be happy. Jack Johnson goes to CLB and out-scores Carter here, we may not be surprised. But it has felt for a week that “they had to do something,” meaning as usual the franchise has dealt from a position of weakness, not strength.
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Bob Bobson Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@Mel Powell, Agreed. This is the type of trade where there is no in between.
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So here’s what we did
Simmons, Johnson, schenn, 1st rounder, 2nd rounder for
Richards, carter
I don’t hate it
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Jack you will be missed. Good luck in Columbus and hope you do real well there. I hate that it had to come to this, but unfortunately it is a part of life. Just don’t do well when you play us
.
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This is what happens to teams that under perform. Not surprised at all that he is gone and we didn’t get nash.
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This one better work…. We are 0 for Williams…
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A good trade, but sad to see JJ go too, since he was one of the few players on the team this year who has not been a total disappointment.
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This is a terrible trade, Carter’s going to be a bust just like how he has been in Columbus. The Kings need a player thats gritty like a Smyth or a Simmonds. The skill is already there they need someone that will crash the net and that arent scared of getting dirty. Also I’m not renewing my season tickets next year thanks Kings its been a fun ride.
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Todd Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@Timmy tim tim,
I didn’t know 15 goals 10 assists in 39 games was considered a bust. Jack Johnson is way overrated and our defense is deep. Voynov can easily replace him.
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Timmy tim tim Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@Todd, jj has been playing a lot better this year defensively, if this were last year I would have been really excited about this but this year the guy thats been killing this team in the defensive zone is Willie Mitchell. And Carter is either on or he’s off. he had a hat trick the other night when his team had another 3 goals. we need grit not another penner. also the kings over paid with a first rounder and the contract of carter 5 mill cap hit till he’s like 35?
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@Timmy tim tim, He’s not even close to a Penner, Penner looked like he wanted to cry last year when he was traded, he was out of shape and didn’t care,people need to look at Carters stats and I’m sure you would be pissed if your team signed you for 10 years and then traded you to a crappy team. Make a judgement after you hear what Richards, Gags, Willy,Stevens and Hexy have to say about him.Penner is not even close,Carter has scored 46 goals and last year he scored 36 with a 27+/- I think he won or tied for the Rocket Richard trophy.JJ is a career minus 90 and only two years younger and Penner is gone next season.
Todd Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
@Timmy tim tim,
Carter should be mentioned in the same sentence as Penner. Carter is a much better offensive player and goal scorer. His cap hit isn’t that bad but yeah the length of his contract sucks. I was still not impressed with Johnson at all. Voynov brings better defense and a more offensive threat as well. Carter has chemistry with Richards so maybe this will not only get Richards going but the team as well.
RoyalPain Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@Timmy tim tim,
The skill is not there. Have you seen this team shoot?
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Timmy tim tim Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@RoyalPain, because they dont get guys in front of the net. Pucks dont normally go in the net in the NHL without either rebounds or screens.
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lakings20 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@Timmy tim tim, He already has the second most goals on the kings if I’m not mistaken and hes only played 39 games come on. If he doesn’t play to potential once he gets here then okay, but 15 goals in 39 games with colombus is good
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Remember this trade. This will come back to bite the Kings in the butt.
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Bill M. Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@MindGeyser, It’ll bite Lombardi first. I’m marking this day down, because this trade is the one that will either make the kings great or send Lombardi to unemployment line.
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Good luck in Columbus, JJ…..but not too much luck….
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Bummed, I really like JJ.
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Thanks for all the hard work, JJ. Good luck in Columbus.
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So are done?
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jeffreyryan Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@jeffreyryan, so are we done?
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broncokings Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@jeffreyryan, i don’t think so I hope that we have one more move coming to us. I kind of hope its JVR from philly…I know another flyer but he’s young and scores
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Feel bad after Jack made negotiations easy on the Kings and gave the hometown discount to them…what a way to show some appreciation. Happy for Richards, I mean, the Kings, but really sad to see Jack go. Would have preferred to see Drew go, definitely on Team Jack and his humility over Drew.
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Nikko Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@SafariChecker, Drew over JJ??
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Dilapidus Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@SafariChecker,
That’s crazy talk. DD is going to be the best two way defenseman playing before too long. I love me some JMFJ but trades happen and this is pretty darn good deal.
All the best to you Jack, we very much liked having you here.
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eclipse Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@SafariChecker, Dude you’re nuts. I would trade JJ any day over Doughnuts. JJ has been a minus player like how many years now? We definitely got the better end of that deal. I’d like to see if the chemistry between Carter and Richards comes back. Interesting move indeed.
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Happy with this trade. I would also like to see LA pick up another forward who earns his money by standing in front of the net.
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dodgervern Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@David,
I agree wholeheartedly.I think its obvious we do a lot of facewashing but Kings seem to back off when the other team starts belting them around.If Penner won’t park in front and use his size ,why can’t we trade him now?Pominville is a winner and I heard he was available in earlier blog.
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Sorry Jack! You’re a true class act, wish you nothing but success in your future. Thanks for helping this Kings out of their gutter-years and always being a team-first player. Not in Doughty’s shadow anymore, be the #1 offensive D-man you are.
Welcome to LA Carter!!
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Why does CBJ’s position get better if we miss the playoffs?
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jlhamon Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@Kenny44,
If the kings don’t make the playoffs, they will pick earlier in the round. Picks 1-14 are based on how a team finishes the regular season (plus the lottery) and picks 15-30 are based on how teams do in the playoffs. If the kings happen to go far in the playoffs this year, CBJ gets next year’s pick which might be better. If the kings miss, they get the option for a pick this year which would be no later than pick #14.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@jlhamon, I understand how it works, but if the Carter trade does not end up helping us CBJ gets “more” for him. It’s counter-intuitive. If this trade goes bad, it will go ALL bad.
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Too bad it was JJ and not DD (Way to big of a contract). Thought JJ was looking good this season. Well, here is hoping this does something for the scoring.
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Johnson is easier to replace then finding a 30 goal scorer…do you think Richards was asked what he thought?
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@neil, Try Stevens, Hexy,Willy as well as Richards.
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Here’s Carter’s stats…not bad, with the exception of this season at CBJ.
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
2006-2007 Flyers 62 14 23 37 -17 48 3 2 1 215 6.5
2007-2008 Flyers 82 29 24 53 6 55 7 2 5 260 11.2
2008-2009 Flyers 82 46 38 84 23 68 13 4 12 342 13.5
2009-2010 Flyers 74 33 28 61 2 38 11 2 6 319 10.3
2010-2011 Flyers 80 36 30 66 27 39 8 0 7 335 10.7
2011-2012 Blue Jackets 39 15 10 25 -11 14 8 0 1 130 11.5
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Osaka Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@KellyHrudey, This season his goals project out to 31.5 in a full season, not bad.
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SLIM Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@KellyHrudey,
15 goals is 2 less than our leading scorer
Kopi with 17… And less games to boot..
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petemagoop Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@KellyHrudey, 15 goals in 39 games ain’t too bad
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DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@KellyHrudey, well considering the GP and the CBJ aspects his stats aren’t that bad, 15 goals in 39 games played would make him an MVP on this offense.
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KellyHrudey Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
As much as I like JJ, I do like this trade.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
@KellyHrudey, Thanks KH, I posted the condensed stats on the last post, also I think he either won or was tied for the Rocket Richard trophy the year he scored 46.
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My feeling is that this won’t change a thing. One player a difference doesn’t make. I hope there’s something more.
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Osaka Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@kingszzz, I think more moves are coming. 1 player can bring a changed attitude or confidence to a team however. It happens all the time.
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kingszzz Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@Osaka, like Richards?
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Jumblehead Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
@kingszzz, Like Penner
and still kompon has a job.
ugh. he’s teh scuk.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@Bickleton Wigglesworth III, did you see him on NHL36 with Richards? Kompon was running video with MR and Nolan. Nolan asked him at one point: “Should I jump in there?”
JK: “No. As soon as you jump in there, you are below the puck. We want all the forwards above the puck.”
That’s a big reason the Kings don’t hold onto the puck in the O zone and get to the scoring areas with the puck. We don’t run interference in front of the puck carrier and don’t support him. No depth in our attack except along the boards to the D.
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Bickleton Wigglesworth III Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
@Kenny44,
i recorded it but haven’t had a chance to watch it yet. but you know what i don’t even think it’s that complicated. kompon runs the forwards and the pp and both have been far from even adequate, not just this year but last as well. that’s tells me he’s just not good at his job, simple as that. you have two things to do, both those things suck…. so….
they should have fired him when they let murray go. now they should fire him and promote nichols. i know bernie doesn’t really have any experience as a coach but he can’t do a worse job than his predecessor.
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Its funny everyone wants a scorer and now that we get one everyone is complaining about JJ going ya hes a good player but seems like lately any goal thats scored hes on the ice and im sure DL will try to get another defenseman but im not all bummed about this trade especially if he can do what we all know he can do and score
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@Kasey9, I like JJ but he is a minus 90 in his career and I think a minus 15 so far.
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Jumblehead Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:49 pm
@Kasey9, JJ was -2 since TM was fired. Depends on your definition of “lately” I guess. I don’t like the first round pick. JJ for Carter straight up maybe, but plus a first? Anyone remember Teubert and a first?
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Can’t wait to see the team this Saturday. Sad to see JJ gone and sucks that we had to give up a 1st rounder too! OUCH!. No crying over sour grapes, what’s done is done, I want to see the team play!
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I love this trade. The Kings are loaded at defense and in the minors and badly need scoring punch. Some of you guys need to get off of jack johnsons you know what and realize he was an average defenseman. We all begged for scoring, and we got some.
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overpaid. I hope Im wrong
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It had to be done. Kings need offense. Losing Jack shouldn’t effect Kings too much but getting Carter should help. If not bye, bye, Deano! (Only getting former Flyers players looks like Dean doesn’t know anything except Philadelphia former players.) We need a GM the can evaluate talent from the entire league not just his former teams.
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I like it. More trades to come!
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2 tickets to the game in Denver $170
Parking $10
2 glasses of wine $14
Gas for the 560 mile round trip $150
Kings effort 0
Hopefully, this trade will help.
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Forum67 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
@edwood2,
Same thing happened to me when I went to Sunrise, Florida earlier this month to see them play the Panthers.
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Please hemsky to kings!!!
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DBking Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@MOSH, I think we’re done dealing with the Oilers
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Dilapidus Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@DBking,
yeah.. except I will say that I am liking Fraser after all. Bleu collar, to be sure, but pretty dependable for what he is.
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Maybe Jack Johnson’s agent should have negotiated a no-trade clause in his extension last year… Uhh, Oh yea…
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, serious…this could bite the kings in the @ss…negotiate in full faith, try to get a long term “hometown discount”…just to be shipped off to COLUMBUS. YIKES.
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Fernando Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose,
Jack Johnson Negotiated his own contract
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Surely something else must be in the works too? We almost have a whole forward corps of centers.
I feel really bad for JJ. So much for being a team guy by negotiating his own contract at a reasonable amount. He also said he wanted to win the Cup in LA. So much for that dream.
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bad gut feeling
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You just made MR a happy camper….
If they can do what they have done
before..We are looking at more of a offensive force…
Good luck JJ…He can’t be thrilled about this..
But maybe he can excel not being in DD’s shadow..
No trade is a given..But I’m gonna keep a positive attitude,,
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DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@SLIM, and a higher bar tab for Richie and Drew
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Sorry for J.J. but getting CARTER is big. Good move Dean ans it had to be done . Better tonight then waiting til Monday GKG
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There’s no way the Kings are done yet. We still need at least two other solid forwards to fix our problems, IMO. I think Bernier will be traded along with some prospects and perhaps Brown, Lokti, Clifford or one of the Kings other forwards. I love Bernier, but he never plays, even when he should, so why keep him?
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Nikko Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@David, ..in case we lose Quick, since he is still unsigned.
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puddle Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@Nikko, ^This
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I’ll bet money He’ll have 2 – 3 good games then Boom, he goes Penner on us. Sorry, that’s just what I’m used to. Prove me wrong Mr. Carter.
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DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@5 4 fighting, the Kompon effect? I think Carter comes in hears one word Kompon says and demands either he be traded or DL fire Kompon.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@5 4 fighting, Ironically, this move could help Penner. He’s been successful when he plays with high skill guys – guys who can carry the mail and set him up for good chances. Put him on a wing with these two actually might be worth a shot.
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5 4 Fighting Reply:
February 24th, 2012 at 12:19 am
@Kenny44, That would be great. Let’s see what happens
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broncokings Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@5 4 fighting, i just hope we get rid of penner
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Give Carter a chance. Things are brutal now, this could and hopefully help. We all like Jack, but there was absolutely no MF in his game … Lots of whoops however. You’re the alpha dog now Drew, kick yourself in your ample butt and elevate your game.
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I’m okay with this, but I’ll be pissed if Nash goes to SJ.
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You guys do realize if this backfires….we have a ton of players signed for a TON of years right?
I myself have become numb to these trades and line changes and call ups. Doesnt really matter what we think, GM does what he thinks is best and we just have to absorb it. GKG!
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number 6 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:47 pm
@KingsFan,
Agree with you. I’m numb to it as well. DL better hope not just that this works out better than the Penner trade, but that it makes everyone forget that the Penner trade ever happened. Otherwise, if it doesn’t, not only will he be let go, but he’ll have a hell of a time finding a job with another team.
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If lombardi does end up getting the boot then whoever comes next will have a hard time signing both goalies who are currently minimal cap hits AND next to nothing draft pick wise.
I’ve generally been a DL fan but this move is highly questionable…
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number 6 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@Drizzz,
Highly questionable. It’s the length of contract and ANOTHER first round pick. YAY> How great to be a Kings fan. I love it……!!!!! (not)
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Drizzz Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@number 6, it feels like all or nothing with the line up we have now. I’d love to see them string some wins together and live up to expectations
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Via Twitter:
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So Scott Howson signed James Wisniewski and then trades for Jack Johnson. Good luck, poor schmuck tending goal in 2012-13
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Cynic Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@Osaka, LOL! I’m sure Columbus isn’t done. Still funny
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I think this will be the death knell for Lombardi. I hope I’m wrong. My feeling is that this is overpayment. We’re taking on more salary and term.
THis deal hinges on two things:
- Voynov stepping into JJ’s position. I see this as not being much of a problem.
- Carter is not Penner 2.0. Richards is going to take heat for this deal as well. I’m positive he lobbied for Jeff to come. Why wouldn’t he? Richards will have to be extra assertive to get Jeff Carter to score like they did before and take this team seriously. Really is a pretty big risk, just due to the contract lengths of both guys alone! High Risk, High Reward.
I do give Dean credit, I asked for him to make a High Risk/High Reward deal for scoring and he pulled the trigger. I think he overpaid, but I asked him to do that too, only I was saying for Nash, not Carter. Doesn’t sound like we’re done either.
Sutter better let Carter and Richards create out there, or this will be just more of the same with a higher cap hit.
GOOD LUCK JACK JOHNSON! I appreciated your attitude while you were here!
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number 6 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@Cynic,
Sutter let players create? Wow, he must have changed then, because they are scoring less now than they did with Terry Murray.
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Cynic Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@number 6, That’s my point. He doesn’t. He needs to let them create.
If he can ask Quick a silly question like ‘Do you want to play tonight?’, he can let Richards and Carter have some freedom out there.
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Measuring it by the trade from Philly, JMFJ = Voracek + 3rd rounder.
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I’m gonna miss JMFJ’s stupid head fakes
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@Granato, I’m going to miss our 1st round draft pick
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number 6 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@Shuchuk,
Me too!!
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DEH Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
@Shuchuk, well simply put, make it to the playoffs and we get this year’s 12th round pick.
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Welcome to the Bermuda Triangle of scoring, Jeff! You come in as a 30 goal scorer and are never seen putting the puck in the net again!!
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I am no JMFJ fan but he was the character player that DL always hyped. Now DL has proven his career is more important than his principles.
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I am no JMFJ fan but he was the character player that DL always hyped. Now DL has proven his career is more important than his principles.
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Drizzz Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@KinginVA, ^ THIS.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@KinginVA, I wonder if DL will go into the locker room and peel the paint off the wall screaming at the players how losing JJ was their fault. How JJ was a quality man who did everything he could here . . .
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NO I don’t want to see jack go. He was playing better than doughty. Oh well good luck to johnson
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Wow, I like the idea of more offense, but I really feel for Johnson. He negotiated his own deal and kept things cap friendly because he wanted to be here. Now he’s been shipped off to Columbus. I have really mixed feelings about this.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@Rob Bordsen, Maybe this will resurrect your career, too, Mr. Bordsen
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Rob Bordsen Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
@Kenny44, We can only hope.
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Feel bad that JJ showed loyalty to us, and didn’t make things difficult unlike a certain other Dman, and yet still got traded away. I do like the trade though and hope it works out for both teams. I never did like the Penner trade, and didn’t understand why everyone was so hyped about him. This trade to me makes much more sense.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@KindSir, JJ did it himself. He didn’t have a No trade Clause so obviously he thought this could happen. So I don’t think he is too upset. Except maybe the fact that it is Columbus, but hey he will be the top dog there.
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KindSir Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@Jeff_R, I must add that I feel DL is an idiot for making it possible for CBJ to get our next 1st rounder if we miss the playoffs. He should’ve kept this upcoming 1st rounder no matter what.
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So we basically the Kings got Carter and Richards for Jack Johnson, Braden Schenn, Wayne Simmons,a 1 round draft pick (2013) and an unconditonal draft pick (2nd 2011). Is that too much?
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This is a hasty and outrageous decision. Even if we make the playoffs, we are not getting past the first round. Why does Lombardi insist on making these kinds of deals? I love JJ, and while I don’t think it is going to kill us to lose him, why add another monster contract to a team full of underperforming “stars”? They do not work under our system. So either change our system, or believe in the “building up” theory that got us this far from our abysmal state 3+ years ago. I’m guessing that the hiring of Sutter means there are no intentions to change our system, so we are making contradicting and ultimately debilitating decisions.
We do not need another Center who attempts to play a wing. We need gritty players, and someone who isn’t afraid to take over a game. Say what you will about Doughty, but when the game is on the line, he wants the puck, and he does what it takes. We could use more people who lead by example. History shows that this is not Carter.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:53 pm
@kcrking, Carter who has the ability to score 40 goals and who had a hat trick his last game can’t take a game over? Plus Carter will not be the only trade. There will be some more made by Monday. Our top 6 will totally be revamped.
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neil Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@Jeff_R, the key to the whole trade is allowing the players the freedom…..as someone pointed out on the Richards show about kp telling nolan not to jump in….adjust the system or carter becomes penner/richards…ex scorers
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This guy is 100% sniper, stoked!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXRct9sJdc
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Niko Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@Niko, mute the music though… terrible
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Hackwoods Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
@Niko, Good stuff. One thing I noticed is that most of the goals were scored without any net presence. JC should have some success here in LA because we all know that we do not like to screen the goalie when one of our players has the puck in the o zone. Nasty wrister as well.
Thanks JMFJ. You were a solid citizen and member of the Kings and we all wish you luck.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
@Niko, Gee he goes to the net and he snipes, good trade.
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JackKent Cooke Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm
@Niko,
Really elevates the puck (what a concept), quick release and an accurate shot.
Possibly Jeff MF Carter.
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Flyers West Coast Continues….hoping for a little magic.
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Love the trade… We got Carter and Richards for Schenn Symonds JJ and a 1st rounder… Ill take Richards and Carter for that any day!!
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@jackyboy, and a 2d rounder (part of the MR deal)
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Carter/Richards have something to prove. This MAY work.
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Gmo Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@nomadking,
Hope they take it upon themselves and take charge of this team, lead the kings into the playoffs and stick it to the flyers for trading them last year
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‘Why does Lombardi insist on making these kinds of deals?’ – easy….. to keep his job.
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In the words of whoever said it “well, here goes nothing. “What I feel bad for JJ and wish him best. I hope they got something else planned because 1 forward isn’t going to change much.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@DesertKing, Brown and Bernier are in play. Also Penner maybe Stoll. 1 or more trades will be made. If we make the playoffs we will not have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd round pick, so some picks will be coming our way shortly.
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Sad to see u go JJ. Welcome to the Kings JC. Please pump up MR and put the same numbers up for us as u did in phily. Hopefully even better! Good luck!
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It’s about time DEAN!!!!!!!!
Call up Voynov and dangle Bernier for more scoring……
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Lombardi’s last desperate move.
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Nikko Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:56 pm
@johnjuan, he should not be done
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
@johnjuan, This move along with the 1 or more moves to be made by the deadline will transform this team into the team we all expected it to be. Dean and the Kings could come out as the top team this deadline.
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I wanted Nash. But rather than trading JJ and JB for him, the Kings can still trade Bernier and add another piece!
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tornado12 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@California Royalty, if CLB was asking this much for Carter, they must be asking the moon for Nash! someone cut off DL’s cell service before it gets any worse!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@tornado12, No way are we even talking to Columbus anymore unless they want Martinez.
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Everyday we shufflin…shuffle the lines, shuffle the team, shuffle shuffle. Detroit and Rangers laughing it up.
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I want to see this in L.A. x100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXh-wHwkUM
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Doughty_Franchise Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
@Nikko, Watching that just got me freaking stoked
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
@Nikko, MMMM SUCCELENT!!
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JackKent Cooke Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@Nikko,
Ready for Showtime on Ice.
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As happy as I am about this trade…sad to see JJ go. Best luck man in Columbus…they can only get better at this point.
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This is the 2nd player in the same amount of years that I got a vibe not to by their jersey and then they got moved that year
I’m gooooooood
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Nikko Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
@Subby, get Carter. he’s here for a while.
http://englishfilmandmedia.blogspot.com/2011/04/as-film-studies-get-carter.html
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@Nikko, Richards and Penner are here for the next 9 and 10 years. You can get them. Or Doughty.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:02 pm
@Jeff_R, Whoops I mean Carter. Have Penner on my mind as he will be gone by Monday. What a Freudian Slip.
Ya know, while we’re getting all these Flyers, how about trading Anschutz for Snider, straight up? Now THAT is a deal. L.A. could even through in Frank McCourt.
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Best of luck to Jack Johnson. I really hope he finds success at the level we all expect from him. At least this way he is closer to his family, and they’ll get to see him more often. Thanks, Jack, for your loyalty, and your willingness to sacrifice in an effort to help this team win.
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Bring me the quotes of Mike Richards!
I can’t wait to see what he has to say now that his mancrush is back in the fold
‘Endless Love’ playing in the background….LOL!
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BluLiner Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@Cynic,
or “Reunited Again”
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Good Luck JJ. I hope you do well and can end up with the redwings back home someday!
The Kings defense just got a heck of alot weaker but the forwards better. like robbing peter to pay paul. I hope Paul is the better bet!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@tornado12, Voynov is almost as good as JJ and possibly will be even better.
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Are we shipping JJs sticks with holes in them to C Bus too?
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JackKent Cooke Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
@Voice Of Reason,
Columbus will have to increase the broken stick budget…
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Rich, I’m sure fans would like a forum they can post their “goodbyes” to Jack Johnson. Good player. Good guy… Soon to be an even better player when he hits his prime next season…
Lombardi! I’ve got a used car and some snake-oil I wanna sell you! Seriously Dean, you’re a joke, dude…
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Well, here we go again,we trade for the second best player on the market.DL, I hope this is not another bad deal.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@SIRGUY, I rather trade for Carter then Nash, as with carter we can also get a couple other players plus possibly go after Parise. With Nash you can’t get much more and certainly not go after Parise and sign Quicker too.
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BOO and lame. Carter has like attitude issue’s as Penner. Sorry JMFJ, it was enjoyable. Thank you.
Lack of talent isn’t the issue with this team.
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Been a Kings fan for years…. just feel a bit less loyal today getting rid of one of the KINGS staples, (no pun intended). I know we need help, but not at the cost of losing Jack. And from the sound of it, we may have just gotten another “PENNER” for a lot higher price than a mere 5 million. We will miss you Jack…
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
@Debi Oshinsky, Where did you hear that sound, Mike Pillsbury, Carter is no Penner, Pilsbury wasn’t Carters coach, look at Carters stats and listen to what people whom he has played with and been coached by, the guy scored 36 goals last year and was a plus 27, give the guy a break. Penner didn’t want to be traded here and has been labeled as just what we got, lazy and unmotivated and he is gone at the end of the year.
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Terrible, terrible. Carter peaked, Johnson’s getting ready to peak ala Larry Murphy. Thanks DL. Good luck as a scout next year some where. I guess we were not on Nash’s list of teams he would play for .
Will this help or hurt Mike Richards. If Carter is so good why has he been traded twice in the span of 8 months?
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brian spain Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@BigMikeonD, Look at his last 3 years, guy can score. and he coming to play with his buddy, that means alot. I think. He is getting out of Ohio, and coming to the beach. How can he not be happy.
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Thanks for all you did as a King Jack – hope you have a long and successful career!
And welcome to L.A. Jeff – no pressure, just the put the biscuit in the basket for us!
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California Royalty Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@KDinUT, yeah getting lost in all this, is I’m going to miss JJ
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Are you kidding me…………. Another Dustin Penner. Have you lost your mind Dean Lombardi
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California Royalty Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@Papa Ed, He’s light years better than Penner. Just wait and see
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Don’t like the trade! Kings gave up way too much!! Does Carter even still want to play? He basically quit in Columbus, I sure hope DL knows where his head is at. Feel bad for JJ, he was loyal to the Kings and has quite possibly been the best d-man on the team for a good part of this season. Don’t expect Voynov to be a savior on the blue-line, his game was already falling off when he was sent to Manchester. This trade to cost the Kings a lot more than a conditional draft pick when it’s all over. CRAP!! Hope I’m wrong….
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Mik3ysfv Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@5-hole, JJ had DL’s metaphorical tattoo and wore it proudly. I like Carter, but not at thd price of rooting JJ. He should have at least done the courtesy of getting Nash, too.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@5-hole, How does having 15 goals in 39 games quitting? If anything Penner is the one that quit.
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5-hole Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@Jeff_R, How is this about Penner?
Bottom-line, after trading for Carter, if the Jackets thought he was doing what they had hoped for, then they wouldn’t have traded him away so quickly. DL has always talked about the chemistry in the locker room, but that seems to have gone out the window this year. Look, Carter might very well get it together and be productive again, we can only hope, but the Kings do not need more head-cases and they don’t need more 20 goal guys – the idea is to break through and not just make the first round of the play-offs. Defensively, the team is now worse. offensively? We’ll have to wait and see.
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Now we need Cart-er and Cart-man in unison on the jumbotron saying GKG! GKG!
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@He Shoots He Scores, please trade that stupid Cartman video…dumb.
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bfarm Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@He Shoots He Scores, Cartman video is awesome. dont listen to shuchuk, he just doesnt get it.
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At least we didn’t give up too much,but time will tell if we did.
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Lombardi’s resurrection! Trade Bernier and add yet another piece!
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Gross Misconduct Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@California Royalty, Bernier,Brown ,Loktinov…..for Nash
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California Royalty Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
@Gross Misconduct, I’d take that in a heartbeat
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This sucks, Lombardi is a hypocrite. If anyone had the “KingsTattoo” it ewas JJ. Not that I dislike Carter, but if Dean wasn’t a hypocrite, he’d have gone for Nash and Carter. JJ put up with DL’s BS comments, negotiated a fair deal and was happy as a pig in Lombardi’s honor. JJ wore the Kings crest w/pride. DL is a hypocrite.
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RyanSD Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@Mik3ysfv, well said.
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Debi Oshinsky Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@Mik3ysfv, A-MEN!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@Mik3ysfv, If he truly wanted to stay here why didn’t he negotiate a NTC? He knew by not adding that, that this could happen. So obviously he was fine with it.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@Jeff_R, What about Philly signing Richards and Carter to long term deals and saying they wouldn’t trade them. Then a few days later they did.
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Good trade we need scoring! Gonna miss you JJ!!!!
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On the bright side at least we won’t have to listen to Jim Fox tell us how much Jack Johnson is improving
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You’re dead man, DL.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
@goldielocks, You keep complaining how Lewis and Richie are so bad defensive;y as they are a minus, yet JJ who has never been a plus is gone and you don’t like it? Just wait until the puck goes into the net multiple times thanks to Carter. Plus this isn’t the only move. Sounds like Brown and Bernier are going too.
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goldielocks Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@Jeff_R,
You really don’t get it, do you? I’m not complaining about those two because of their +/- but the fact they always bring trouble in our own zone. Rewind your DVR and see what they’ve done in the D-zone for past 2 weeks. I’ve been watching them closely and I can’t even count how many times they missed the oppotunity to clear the zone.
And for the record, I have nothing agaist Carter. Good luck with the Kings. That’s all I can say.
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Welcome to LA, Mr. Carter!
Best of luck to JMFJ, you’ll be missed…
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Good thing I already aquired him on NHL 12 last week!
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DL hit the panic button. Hands down, the worst trade this team has made in a long time. Once again, I hang my head in shame as a Kings fan.
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I’ll miss JJ, he’s always been a class act and big props for handling his own contract without hissy fits, so good luck JJ! That said, we are defense heavy and he didnt do enough this season to make himself indispensable, so it’s partly on him and not that big a surprise.
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I have no problem trading Jack Johnson. The Kings are deep on the blueline and he was maybe the best bargaining chip the team had.
Yet I’m not sold on the idea that Jeff Carter is the best that Lombardi could do. Not only does his long-term contract loom ominously, but as a center who has played wing he is not exactly what the team desperately needs. Hopefully, being reunited with Mike Richards will spark both of them and by extension the entire offense.
I have to believe that this is part of a multi-trade strategy…but perhaps I’m being overly optimistic. But one thing is unquestionable: this deal makes or breaks the Lombardi regime in Los Angeles. If it pans out (and by that I mean the Kings go deep into the playoffs), he looks like a genius. If it does not work, the Kings will have a new GM and coach by July.
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@AJ, Hextall?
how effed up would it be if not DL traded Richards? hahaha.
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Guys guys..Give CArter a chance…
How u know he like Penner?Exactly u dont…
Stop with this nonsense ..No one is ever happy whne Dean does something..
Its just complaint after complaint..
Wait and give him a week to see what he does.
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SpencerMaze Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Good post. Amen.
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Jamesonafterawin Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Hmmm. 25th yeah that will be a loss. 27th loss, 28th duh, loss. 3rd that’s a loss. 6th not to be to negative, push. 8th hi Jack! Probably a loss.
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Would have rather traded douche doughty, at least jj put in an effort, dd just skates around now because we gave him to much money
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Papa Ed Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
@randy, Agree 100%
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Robb Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@Papa Ed, Agree 1000000%
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CL Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@randy, Right. Except that Doughty has more points in fewer games, a much better plus-minus, and has recently been the only one able to get the puck into the offensive zone without dump-and-chase.
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Debi Oshinsky Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@randy, Hallelujah!!!!
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SpencerMaze Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@randy, Geez really? How Guys say they would rather have seen DD go than JJ is mistifying. DD is the future of this team. You really think DL would actually consider trading DD? Not a chance in H, E, double hockey sticks.
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Debi Oshinsky Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@SpencerMaze, and NO heart… double hockey sticks.
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Do any of you remember me saying Carter would be a King by the trade deadline EARLY in the season?
idkk if I’m happy that I was right or not.
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well, looking back would you have traded Schenn, Simmonds, JJ & the draft picks for Richards & Carter?
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Subby Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 pm
@Shuchuk, thats the questions everyones been asking
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I predict he is either going to wear #9 or #17
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SpencerMaze Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
@Subby, Well ever since Kurri wore 17 that’s my all-time favorite!
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Voynov > Johnson
I really like this trade since Voynov made Johnson expendable. We didn’t really lose much Go kings go!
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Papa Ed Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@Marbles, Voynov is terrible way too small, loses the puck often and cannot clear the front of the net
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Marbles Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
@Papa Ed,
Johnson is a career -88! enough said.
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Should have traded Doughty who doesn’t even care about being a King.
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Newf Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
@Debi Oshinsky, yet he was a kings fan growing up and said he always wanted to play for the kings…
trading Doughty would be the biggest mistake DL could ever have made. i guess you want him to trade Kopi and Quick too?
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he traded Carter without giving up Bernier…
Which Bernier could be another trade beat on later on the future…
Or just in case Quick wants out..
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Wonder who he will stay with for the rest of the season?
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I came to really like Jack as a player and person. I’m bummed to see him go.
Something more has to happen to address the way this group functions as a unit and adding a scorer is not going to fix an underachieving TEAM.
I have to wonder if this is just the beginning…
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What’s done is done.
Carter needs to score lots of goals. Kings need to find their mojo quickly and go on a tear. Easy enough…
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OldKingsFan Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@BringBackKingston, The only thing Carter will find in LA is the closest bar to Staples
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This is a terrible trade.Carter will not produce. Mark my words.
We are giving away our future to save dino’s job. lieweekly needs to step in before he makes another stupid trade and dumps Bernier for another high paid slug.
I don’t understand the love affair with Jeffie. What has he done in Columbus? I/R and in the crapper. How many goals has he scored this year?
Another Hockey player in a Kings Sweater. Playing for the name on the back and not the one on the front.
Now we will 2 piles of $%!@ stinking up the ice.
Care to ask me how I feel about Carter and the Trade?
Go Kings Go
Dino Go Dino Go
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Gross Misconduct Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@OldKingsFan, He will be playing with a guy named RICHARDS…..that will be the diff.
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OldKingsFan Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
@Gross Misconduct, And what has Richards done? I/R and in the crapper in LA. Richards stated openly He wouild rather be in Winnipeg! So we will hace 2 piles of S%!@ stinking up the ice. I am not convinced Richards is the real deal. He was a product of the Philadelphia system.
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Well unlike Penner, we know Carter has chemistry with someone on the team.
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OldKingsFan Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@DEH, Chemistry yes 3 fingers of Jack Daniels straight up
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Bernier,Brown ,Loktinov…..for Nash
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@Gross Misconduct, $7.5 million is tough to swallow….
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Jimmyo777 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@Gross Misconduct, I’d go for that trade…
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colo king fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@Gross Misconduct,
so then we would be philly west and columbus would be la east?
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Love the trade. I have been critical of JJ lately but having said that I am sorry to see him go. Let’s just hope this Carter is more productive than another Carter who showed up and didn’t show up at all
I have high hopes.
GKG!!!!!!!!
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Good Luck will miss you big time, in LA the Kings Fans! What a even bigger mess now.
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If Richards is the leader (and future captain as many of you think) then I am sure he will be able to lead Carter to a better attitude. Unless you think Mike Richards is a bust to. I don’t think many of you would say that even though most of you were freaking out about that he partys too much drama.
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Shuchuk Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@Subby, just keep them away from USC fraternity/sorority events
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@Subby, If Brown is gone then Richards will be Captain. Carter will be real happy with his buddy Richards and friends Willie and Gags and coach Stevens.
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We’ll see..just like any trade. We were all thrilled with Penner..remember?
Carter’s a good hockey player..lets hope his cr@ppy season is because he’s in the NHL’s version of hell. No excuses for either him or Richards. Hell, there’s no excuses for any of them.
Good luck JJ..you’re going to be a real good defenseman for a long time in this league.
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I am for one very upset about this. This is what the king franchise has resorted to…trading a player who really wanted to be here, negotiated his own contract, played hard every night, and probably brought a lot to the locker room? Talk about disrupting a team….
I was actually thinking that if everyone remembers Bernier was to be the goalie of the future for the kings. Why not trade Quick? You sure could get a lot for him right now?
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art Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
@Lvhatrick,
I still think that we have a good team and good players that have potential to do something special. For some reason, it just hasn’t turned out that way this year. So unfortunately, there had to be some changes, like TM being fired and now JJ traded. Disrupting a team is exactly what was needed. Something needs to get these guys playing better. And I’m pretty sure Jeff Carter also really wants to be here.
As far as trading Quick goes, I think we need to give him the “C” since he’s the only guy who has any passion on this team. Pride=Passion=Power
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YoBro Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
@Lvhatrick, Agree on all counts.
Go Kings
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
@Lvhatrick, The Kings fired Dave Taylor. There is no entitlement in sports. I just hope they handled it professionally and courteously with JJ.
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This is just another example of Lombardi not being able to pull the trigger on the right deal. We needed Nash and if we had to give up Johnson, Bernier and a #1 it would have made sense. Why can’t we sign a true first line scorer! As a 20+ year season ticket holder I am pissed off and frustrated!
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Heshootshescores Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@SCMUTZ, I 100% agree, another DL Patch job, never able to get the real goods
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brian spain Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@SCMUTZ, How many players scored 46 goals in 09-10. Maybe 3 and carter was one of them, he played with Richards that year.
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Can we get rid of Sutter also
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Please bring up Jake Muzzin and NOT Voynov
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Feel really bad for Jack having to go through another rebuild from the ground up. Good luck in Columbus.
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Hate this and DL.
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Looks like DL is singing his swan song…
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I don’t like seeing JJ go, but I’ll get over it if Carter lights the lamp on a regular basis and brings some excitement to the ice…the Kings have been BORING for far too long.
open it up. grip it and rip it. olde time hockey!
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Somebody needs to make part 2 of this video now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGDCUJrCSc
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New from Carter and Richards! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glC9_8Ijt9k
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I like the trade. Carter likes to shoot the puck and scores a lot of goals because of it. He didn’t do well in Columbus because they expected him to be the playmaker for Nash(the Sniper). Carter has never been the playmaker type, but more of a scorer, which is exactly what the Kings need. My guess is that Carter will play the wing with Kopitar and both of those guys will do well together. 15 goals in 39 games isn’t too shabby, and I think his production takes a step up with Kopitar setting him up. Hate to see JJ go, but we still have cap space to make an offer for Parise in the offseason.
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TiredOfIt Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
@art, Ya so did Richards and look at his totals. Did everyone just fall off the turnip truck? Richards and Carter together were the reason they both got traded from Philly….wasn’t it?
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petemagoop Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:29 pm
@TiredOfIt, no
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colo king fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@TiredOfIt,
bryzgalov had a lot to do with it.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
@colo king fan, And Giroux and JVR blossomed nicely, which gave Philly some flexibility up front.
Kind of a waste, all we really had to do was trade sutter, kompon, and their Crap system and we would have been fine, we can leave Stevens, he’s done great with the d
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TiredOfIt Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
@randy, Excellent
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I love this. Why are people complaining? We have stellar defense and no offense. So we go out and trade a d man who we have plenty of replacements for and get a monster scorer who has built in chemistry with richards who also needs help scoring. Everyone says “we need help no, not in the future, I’m tired of waiting” and then they complain about a draft pick being included in the trade!! You can’t have it both ways. We need offense and this feels just as good if not better than Nash. I think Nash is better by himself but carter and Richards?? Should be money in the bank.
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TiredOfIt Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@Cortex949, Money? In the bank? For the owners maybe….typical
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Heshootshescores Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
@Cortex949, Ya, should be…
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Jim S. Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
@Cortex949, I agree & I think the 1st rounder was mandatory. Gotta overpay to play at the deadline, right? The Kings did the same when they were unloading vets a few years ago. It’s different being a buyer at the deadline… it costs players & picks on the “reserve list.”
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So,
Brown is the oldest King to my knowledge with Kopitar being 2nd…JJ was the third but now that he is gone who is left from that era ? Who are the next following Kopitar?
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We just lost the best defenseman on the team…I hope all of you realize that….and I don’t give a crap what his plus/minus was…..we need offense that’s true, but we sacrifice defense to sugar coat the LOUSY play of Kopitar, Brown, Richards, etc….We will miss JJ. Jack, best wishes to you and your family. You were the defensive leader on this team, despite what most would say. You were my favorite player….this sucks……
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petemagoop Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm
@TiredOfIt, he was a minus 12, worst on the team
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art Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@TiredOfIt,
“We just lost the best defenseman on the team”
Really? Doughty is still the best defenseman on the team and will be for a long time. If you are talking about striclty playing defense I think Mitchell and Scuderi are still the best at that. If you are talking about playing physical D you might mean Greene. If you were talking about offensive potential and puck moving ability you might have meant Doughty or Voynov. Not really sure Johnson was the best at anything except for +/-. I’m not bashing JMFJ because I like the guy, I just think you are definitely in the very small minority with your statement.
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Hackwoods Reply:
February 24th, 2012 at 1:08 am
@art, I concur. JJ was good in many areas of the game, but nothing stood out. Pretty solid all around, but nothing exceptional. I will miss JJ because he was a solid team mate and good person.
The thing what stands out the most to me in terms of JJ’s play was the fact that the highlights and stuff from U of Michigan were all JMFJ this and that. He looked like he was a real edgy player. I did not see that much in the NHL. I cannot remember any heavy open ice hits or even heavy hits anywhere. I am sure there were some but nothing that I can recall and that would lead me to believe that it did not happen very often. Where did the MF go in JMFJ? He did mix it up some in the after the whistle push-fests, but nothing major. He played relatively tough, but very little edge to his game. Still tough to see him go since we gave up a really edgy and solid young d-man in Gleason to get him (and Belanger too, I think). JJ was pretty good, but you have to give up something to get something, and since we are deepest in defense, that was an area we could move.
Let’s hope Carter lights it up and we get some offense going…very soon, and VV comes up and plays solid.
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The biggest thing this trade might do bring some fun back to the game for the Kings, if it makes MR and Carter happy to be reunited. That emotional content has been absent forever it seems. Go play, beat the other guy, and enjoy the hell out of it Kings!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXRct9sJdc
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I don’t feel bad for “look left, pass right” Johnson… he’ll gain skill and experience elsewhere. Right now – we need goal scorers – and if it takes Mike and Jeff to hit the bar 25 mins before the drop of the puck to get the job done – then have at it.
After 30 years of being an avid Kings fan – first let me say that we need to fire the entire Marketing department – get rid of the totally bland and ridiculous things we call jersey’s – and get those ‘ROYAL’ kings colors back.
Secondly – mixing it up is good… Carter – will mix things up… we need it…
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Are you people serious? You bitch about the guy and how he plays, and yet you don’t like the guy DL brings in. Do any of you seriously think Mike Milbury knows anything, why do you think he’s ssitting where he is and not a GM anymore. Aside from this year Carter’s stats are what this team needs. And like I’ve said in previous posts this still leaves DL options down the road. I honestly think this isn’t all DL is going to do. Everyone knows we need help, so they’re gonna make it hard on DL. Don’t think DL hasn’t done it to them. I’m gonna say ,to me this trade makes sense and I hope it gets the Kings going. I know I’m not giving up on them yet.
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Black Knight Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
@P90X, Seems the only thing Milbury has ever been good at is running his mouth (and getting into fights with kids at some Pee Wee game). For years he systematically destroyed the once great Islanders with bone head trade after bone head trade. Was he GM when they signed DiPietro? Milbury is a joke and a jealous old hockey duffer who never found success beyond the rink. Why do any of us care what his opinion is. Good luck Jack, though I dont remember anyone crying we not trade you before today and welcome Jeff, hope you are not reading those of us comparing you to Penner. GKG
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bottom line: the kings weren’t going anywhere before this trade, they flat out sucked…SOMETHING had to be done. we’ll know pretty soon if this was a good deal for the franchise.
*I hate giving up early draft picks.
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art Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
@Shuchuk,
Yeah, don’t want to give up those early draft picks. A lot of sure stars there like Trevor Lewis, Colton Teubert, Lauri Tukonen, Brian Boyle, and Jeff Tambellini.
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Sorry wrote something potentially offensive on my first run through. No I don’t like this deal. No I would not have made it. If they trade Dustin Brown like some are suggesting that would be very foolish. I hope they do not. This team is to good and is simply underachieving right now . Please don’t deal anymore of our center pieces Deano or enjoy working as a scout next year.
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hey dude, draft picks exist for a reason…pretty much every player in the NHL was drafted. draft picks are like bullets, the more you have the more times you can afford to miss.
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More hatricks, please!!!
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It should (let’s Hope so) be a good trade for both teams.
I wish JJ All The Best in Columbus.
Welcome to LA – JC. : – )
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D Sydor and Larry Murphy. How many times are we going to suffer with the learning curve and then trade him to watch him star for years in other city’s. The life of a king fan. Seems to me DL is desperate to save his job. I just hope he don’t ruin our team in the process.
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:13 pm
@Meats, They do become stars elsewhere because of the “East Coast Encouragement.”
You know lots of publicity.
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What is the nickname ending in er for JC-Carterer?
Can’t wait fro the blog posts every time JJ scores.
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Bad Deal and a sad day for the Kings.
This trade doesn’t get us near the offensive fire power we need to be a contender.
Maybe we slide into the 8th spot to get wacked by Vancouver or Detroit.
Everyone keeps saying he’s gonna play with Richards. Where? On the 2nd Line?
Kopi gets screwed again as Williams and Brown (2nd or 3rd liners on any other team in this league) are back to the 1st line.
too much to give up for an asset that won’t make any significant difference.
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Hey Rich,
Easy Poll: Like the Trade or Not?
I’ll take the easy money on 2/3 think this was a bad deal and a desperate move on DL’s part.
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Brown Kopi Carter
Gagne Richards Williams
Clifford Lokti Richardson
Nolan Stoll/Fraser Lewis/Westy
Voynov – Mitchell
Doughty – Scuderi
Martinez – Greene
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KYerky Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
@boxtime17,
Gagne? You want to bring up another bad signing?
not trying to be an a$$, but to even mention him as a 2nd line guy is a joke.
I do not wish him ill as I once had a serious concussion (not fun) but he’s not going to fix this either.
Look at the forwards. Too many 3rd and 4th Line guys. Not saying they are not important or don’t play a role, but you need more then one or two elite forwards on a team, We have one (#11) Look at Chicago’s line up. Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp. All 4 of those guys are better then our 2nd best player. You go go though every team and the story would be the same. This deal is not gonna get to the promise land (and by that, I only mean the 2nd round)
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UglyinLA Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
@boxtime17,
Brown plays RW. Now that we have Carter, Brown can go back to his natural side. I also see this as a perfect opportunity to shake up the entire roster. I am hoping to see an energized team starting with Kopi.
If DS wants to call me, here how I would set the lineup on Sat.
King Kopi Nolan (all big guys that play hard)
Carter Richards Williams (Phillymarity with each other)
Richardson Lewis Brown (Everyone back to their normal positions)
Clifford Fraser Stoll (limited minutes, stay out of the penalty box)
Voynov – Mitchell (good)
Doughty – Scuderi (good)
Martinez – Greene (good)
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boxtime17 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
@UglyinLA,
Brown can play both…. carter is a RW.. Gagne can come back strong ..he can shott the puck on target… that’s what we need!
But i like the lineup for Saturday! I hope the rooks really turn it up! That would help.. still want to see Nolan get in a scrap!
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If Carter plays to 85% of his potential, the deal will be worth the trade.
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boxtime17 Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:19 pm
@crashin’da net,
that’s true..but I don’t like the extracurricular stuff runored about Richards and carter.. I hope they keep their heads in the game on the ice!
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Now hope he keeps JB cause if he trades him now and Quick does not resign then we are double screwed. Can’t trade him until you have Quick signed.
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Disappointed about losing JJ. Oh well. Thats business. Let’s see if this changes anything.
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Like.
Such a nice week why not trade twice.
I see people shuffling off to Buffalo.
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I’m a fan of this trade. I’m actually going to be at the game in Chicago on saturday! I really hope Carter suits up and pokes some holes in Crawford.
DL hinted that it’s not over yet. Maybe Columbus has given up on Mason and will trade away Nash for JQ or JB and pancakes! Eagerly anticipating Monday!
GKG!
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The good thing about this trade is that the Kings still have Bernier as a piece of a trade package if need be.. Now i can’t believe the Kings are done,no way!!… I believe that Penner,Bernier,Stoll and maybe our Captain will/could all be traded by Monday.. Buffalo wants Brown and the Kings have spokened with Buffalo about Roy,Stafford and Pommerville.. All 3 would look good in a Kings uniform and Philly ( yes Philly ).. about JVR.. Well guysd we asked for a trade and we got one.. Hate to see JJ go..Thank you JJ..Good luck you will be missed… But by Monday we could have a whole new team?…Come on Dean, DON’T STOP NOW,KEEP GOING!!!! Penner’s next…Resign Mitchell?…
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ToughD Reply:
February 24th, 2012 at 2:54 am
@kfan, no way not Brownie! I would like to see many others gone before him.
Bruiser, good defensively, great hands. The face of our franchise, which is maybe a bad thing too since we have trouble creating scoring chances.
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If Gagne gets back soon and Penner decides to come to play we would be very good offensively now…. one can only hope!
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Should have been a straight up deal. Desperation again. You can trade all you want, but performances like last night speak volumes about this group. Seems like a big problem in the locker room.
stars, Ducks, Sharks, Wild all win, and no doubt Phx – Cal will be a three pt game. We’ll be 12th by Sun.
A terrible season.
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Mikey J. Reply:
February 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
@Callahan, It really doesn’t matter what the other teams do. Kings have to win a lot of games to make the playoffs and that’s all that matters.
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Craig Button is an crazy! he doesn’t think this is a good trade at all for US! He thinks we do not have any good defenseman to fill Johnsons spot!!! haha he’s crazy!! Voynov is a better player in my opinion! Voynov can take over plays much like Doughty! I know with Carter here that Mike Richards and the rest of the Kings will take off! shove it Craig Button!
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Hey folks, come on, it’s good to show passion and vehemence in your beliefs. But after what the Kings have gone through in the past few months, how about showing just a little bit of faith? What’s done is done. I’ve followed this team from the beginning and long ago gave up regularly commenting-the pain was usually way beyond the passion-like the “Miracle on Manchester”-yet I was there when they lost. And who could forget the beautiful scenario of 1993. Yup, I got to enjoy both Kings losses. Watching a near-catatonic Reagan down in front was almost more enjoyable than the actual game (ok, so Goldie and Kurt sitting with him did make it even more interesting!). No more curved sticks, jaded wit, cynical attacks or perverse predictions; if you really do want the Kings to be good, how about trying t a positive mental attitude. I’m serious. I honestly believe, that if we the fans turn around our own daily expectations, we can help the team do the same. You don’t believe me? Remember last year’s hockey playoffs-and two jerk off players/two different teams-committing acts that made most of us really hate them. And in the end, their teams both lost and both players were gone by the next season. Believe in what you feel. It’s a universal truth (this isn’t some mullet Melrose garb-it’s real). Believe in the team and they will respond. I know many of you are real fans who support this club financially and with your time and following. So add this simple gesture to your daily routine. Picture them turning things around, Smile as you picture their next game as a surprising victory with all players putting forth great effort. I swear to you, it really does work. The more of you follow and believe in this, the more powerful the source becomes and you help to lead our Kings past their 45 year funk! RL
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Best of luck to JMFJ, and welcome to L.A. Mr. Carter!
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The good: More centers on your roster, goal scorer
The bad: Overpaying another player, pay-grade and skill wise we have too many top-six forwards on this team
Feels like a desperation move by DL. We have Gagne and Parse out, so I would have liked to just stand pat and maybe try for an elite player next season. Guess we’re just trying to make the post season for profit. There are several great teams out there but just look at the Rangers, they play our aggressive style better, have the better goalie, and offensively their first option is not to just pass back to the point, but to actually create scoring chances using their forwards first. Maybe can forgive Richards for some of his turnovers cause he and Kopi are the only guys who can consistently create for himself and others.
Well, hopefully this works out. Go Kings!
Is it possible that Lotki is our best defensive forward?
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Have never been critical of DL before, but this is a bad desperation move. Have spoken with lots of philly fans who think richards and carter are amazing players, but were happy when they left because they had formed a locker-room clique that caused problems. That’s scary!
Even if the richards/carter issues are complete fabrications, JJ was one of the few Kings really earning his paycheck and likely to continue doing so for years as he’s locked in to a very reasonably priced contract.
Bringing on another top-6 forward who will no doubt have trouble scoring like all our other top-six forwards and giving up an important piece of present and future just seems a little too desperate and short-sighted.
No number of sharpshooting forwards can carry this team through a Quick funk which is inevitable as the poor guy has single-handedly carried the organization for months. It’s sad, but the Kings need to accept that this season is lost and think about the future. Giving up JJ for a super star like Nash is one thing, but carter is not a superstar and may be bringing some baggage. I don’t see how this move makes the 2012 kings significantly better and believe it can be argued that it makes the future kings worse.
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Correct me if I’m wrong. I think we should keep Brown, trade Bernier, Loktionov, Toffoli, and a pick for Nash. If they say no, then try Bernier, Loktioniov, and a pick for Parise? Brodeur is getting old himself, and the Devils will need a new tender soon. I don’t think that Carter is enough for us to score more than 2 goals a game. I love Bernier, but I feel bad for the guy sitting on the bench in his young career. Bernier is capable of being a starting goalie/franchise goalie for 25 other teams in this league.
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