Stoll, on trade-deadline anxiety

The trade-deadline wheels continue to slowly turn. With 10 days until the deadline, there’s still more talk than action, although two Western Conference teams have picked up pieces in the last 24 hours, with San Jose adding Tampa Bay’s Dominic Moore and with Nashville adding Montreal’s Hal Gill. Following up on Justin Williams’ thoughts from the other day, regarding trade-deadline anxiety for players, Jarret Stoll expressed similar sentiments. Stoll has never been a part of a midseason trade — he moved from Edmonton to the Kings in the summer of 2008 — and said he doesn’t get caught up in deadline anxiety.

STOLL: “It’s everybody’s choice. Sometimes guys, especially young guys, they’re online checking the blogs or whatever. You can get caught up in it if you want to, but the bottom line is, you’ve got to worry about your game, your team and winning games, playing good hockey. That’s all you can control. That’s all you can worry about at this stage. That’s it, really. It’s black and white. Let the people that are the powers that be makes those decisions and make those moves, and leave it at that.”

Question: Some guys say the whole thing is overrated, that it’s really not a distraction for players…

STOLL: “Yeah. It’s for you guys in the media to speculate and talk about it and report it. That’s really all it is. Our job isn’t to do that. Our job is to play hockey and try to win games. But yeah, some guys are going to look at it, read articles and stuff like that, and it won’t bother them. Some guys do that kind of thing, and it does bother them. Those are the guys you’ve got to watch, and make sure that they have the right attitude.”

106 Comments

  1. Deadendcruiser says:

    ” but the bottom line is, you’ve got to worry about your game, your team and winning games, playing good hockey. That’s all you can control.”
    Really?…….then what’s the problem?

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    LBlocal Reply:

    Justin Peters. WOOOOO! HOOOOO!

    gKg!

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  2. neil says:

    The worst part of the season is this…The Kings only have 4 keepers for next year(on offense)Kopi,Brown,Williams, and Richards…the rest are 4th line types.Now the question is this ..how does the Kings replace Stoll,Penner(both 20 goal scorers in the past)and Mitchell(who the Kings should resign)At this point DL should admit his moves didnt work(Moreau,Hunter etc) and become sellers and start rebuilding for next season.You add Nash and with our defense ..its a start.With Nash added to our top 4 you basically have two top lines.Then with the rst…you make a 4th line.So yu only need to come up with a third line.Then you allow the coach to change/update the system where scoring is ok….If you cant do this…then you shouldnt be a GM…

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    Jeff_R Reply:

    @neil, Our 3rd and 4th line would score more if our top 2 lines scored consistently. The problem is all the players are afraid to try anything different, as it could lead to a mistake and a goal scored by the opponent. At this time all other teams need to do is score one goal and basically that is it. Our guys need to go out there and just go all out. Not worry about making mistakes. We have Quick to help out when mistakes are made. Just attack and the goals will start going in. Attack the net, go down the middle and shoot the puck.

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    Mars Reply:

    @neil,

    What do you mean by What will DL do next year?

    I think he is gone after we miss the playoffs. (hate saying the last five words there btw)

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    northern fan Reply:

    @neil, have Kopi, Brown and Richards earned their big salaries this year? What makes them keepers?? I think not – All three have been a bust. This team needs a shake up. They have been protecting these types far too long. Kopi didn’t even have a shot on net last game and had the highest TOI on the team

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    jonsey Reply:

    @Todd Santora, I have to agree! Richards has done the best he can with what he is working with. Kopitar is soft. Brown is less than a leader and not a first-liner. Williams is a good player.

    I wouldn’t keep any D-men, save Mitchell and Voynov.

    And what else can we say, Quick IS the Kings right now.

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    Blade17 Reply:

    @northern fan, You forgot Williams on that list of non achievers. Better of late, but, what, 10 goals?

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  3. SLIM says:

    Sorry I put this on the wrong post..
    And it’s off topic..
    Sometime I think this blog should be called
    EX LA KING INSIDER…..
    Every thread someone reminds us of how
    Players that have left the King are scoring
    And how many goals they have on new teams…
    What’s the purpose of this?
    To depress us even more..
    Is it to perhaps emphasise our failing system…
    Or to remind us of DL’s failure in obtaining solid scoring forwards…
    It’s counter productive and getting old…
    They have gone..They aren’t here.
    Stop telling me my ex girlfriend is dating a Super Model…
    That’s my rant of the day…

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    ILLEGALSTICK33 Reply:

    @SLIM, Sorry dude….But I think the ex might be dating more then just a super model…I saw her on the freeway in a covertable with Simmer Moulsen and Purcell….

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    SLIM Reply:

    @ILLEGALSTICK33,
    Good..They will definitely all go on slumps now..

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    Blade17 Reply:

    @SLIM, Kate Upton I hope!

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  4. dd8 says:

    TRADE STOLL!

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  5. KingsFanFTW says:

    Trade someone to gain someone that can go to the net stay in front of the net and score goals!

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    Forum gold Reply:

    @KingsFanFTW, Someone like Wayne Simmonds. GO KINGS GO!!!

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    kingrussell Reply:

    @Forum gold, Exactly.

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  6. wavesinair says:

    “It’s for you guys in the media to speculate and talk about it.”

    There you go Rich. It’s your JOB to speculate! Start talkin. Who’s going where?

    By the way, is there a Jason Spezza trade coming? ;)

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    variable Reply:

    @wavesinair,

    that one is on me…(-1)…

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    USHA#17 Reply:

    @variable,

    No worries, your marked down for that one!

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  7. JackKent Cooke says:

    More psychobabble. DS’s straight talk is the only thing that makes following the Kings interesting right now.

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  8. Panama City King says:

    There’s talk of this trade on HockyBuzz.com

    The Kings would send Bernier to Columbus
    Columbus would send Nash to the Rangers
    The Rangers would send a d-man (Del Zotto? McDonaugh?) + to CBJ
    The Rangers would send Gaborik to Kings

    Lombardi wanted Gaborik before he signed with the Rangers. He likes the contract term. He’ll still be able to make Parise a nice offer. He likes 3-team trades.

    What does everyone think about that? I really don’t like giving up Bernier, but it’s not a bad idea.

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    DEH Reply:

    @Panama City King, interesting…

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    CB14 Reply:

    @Panama City King, Why in the world would the Rangers trade their leading scorer, AND one of their top scoring d-men for a player who has 9 goals less than Gaborik? Makes no sense what so ever.

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    hip-check Reply:

    @CB14, because NASH is better !!!!

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    CB14 Reply:

    @hip-check, Not this season he isn’t. And besides, the top team in the NHL is not going to trade their leading goal scorer.

    DEH Reply:

    @hip-check, Nash makes more the Stamkos, I don’t see Nash putting up Stamkos numbers… just saying

    marty la king 1969 Reply:

    @CB14, penned and still for dean Hopkins and jp kelly

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    Belexes Reply:

    @Panama City King,

    haha, Bernier for Gaborik? You think?

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    Harry Reply:

    @Panama City King,

    Eklund is garbage.

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    Captain Material Reply:

    @Panama City King,

    So, the Rangers are going to swap Gaborik for Nash and also just lose a good young D in the process? Is it more puzzling that the fraud on that site thought that was reasonable or that you thought it was worth repeating?

    It’s ridiculous, that’s what I think. Best advice I can give anyone reading rumors on the internet is to have some respect for yourself and avoid that particular source of misinformation.

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    Captain Material Reply:

    @Captain Material,

    And just so I’m not being completely negative, here’s some info from Dreger (who isn’t a sage, but also isn’t selling snake oil like your referenced source):

    “Q: Darren,
    Do you think a goaltender absolutely has to be a part of any trade proposal for Rick Nash?
    -Erin

    A: Erin – No, I don’t think the Blue Jackets are 100 percent locked on acquiring a goalie as part of the deal. Columbus wants at least four pieces, but seem willing to consider all options. We believe L.A. Kings goaltender Jonathan Bernier will be included if the Kings manage to get a deal done, while the New York Rangers are more likely to throw in a young forward, young defenceman, a quality prospect and a draft pick to lure the big man. Some teams who believe they are in the mix are growing frustrated because they’re not getting a clear indication from the Blue Jackets as to what it will take to move the process along.

    For those who feel that way, perhaps they’re not as close to being in contention for Nash as they might wish. This is such a mammoth trade – in terms of impact on the Blue Jackets and the city of Columbus – and the complexity of establishing Nash’s trade value even to the fortunate few believed to be involved, that time is a huge issue. Ten days may not be enough to swing a deal that will impact this team for years to come.”

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    Kings x Reply:

    @Captain Material, Sanford just went on the IR today

    hip-check Reply:

    @Panama City King, I just wrote that two hours ago on the last note.
    Id rather Nash .. younger and way less injury prone.

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    7milforhickey Reply:

    @hip-check, you guys are crazy DO YOU KNOW HOW GOOD MARIAN GABORIK IS??
    yeah he is injury prone but my god hes so much faster than rick nash and he actually backchecks.
    id say nash is 4 years or something younger, same hands and playing style but much more selfish and lazy kind of like kovulchuk.
    gaborik has got wheels bro.
    dont get me wrong i would trade the whole team for nash i just think gaborik is sick

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    Stuart Reply:

    @7milforhickey, i stopped reading at injury prone… F all that noise!

    boxtimw17 Reply:

    @Panama City King,

    I’d take that trade in a second!

    Bernier for Gaborik? Doubt it will happen but you never know!

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    Alex Reply:

    @Panama City King, Horrible. The Kings need more than just one. We need help on every lines. Not sure getting just Nash will solve a problem. With Nash we going to have to give up something nice and than what… We still have only one productive line. How about making cople of moves, like getting VanReimsdyk from Philly. Maybe getting Carter and RJ. Umberger from Columbus. This way you do get very good players and helping your self true out a line up.

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    Kings x Reply:

    @Alex, Agree. A top 6 piece and a bottom 6 piece. Something that can score and something that can get the bottom 6 chipping in. Mayr front net presence type player

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    Steevogt Reply:

    @Panama City King, Gaborik has too large a contract and doesn’t score enough to validate such a huge some of money.

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    11 or 3 Reply:

    @Panama City King, no way to that deal. gaborik is thirty and takes years off for injuries or whatever. bernier and jj or slava for nash, or do nothing until the summer.

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    kingrussell Reply:

    @Panama City King, Are you crazy? There’s no way the Rangers are parting with Gaborik. And even if they did it would certainly take more than Bernier from us to get him.

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    Canadian King Reply:

    @Panama City King, Sorry but Bernier isn’t good enough to land Gaborik on his own, not yet anyways.

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    Blade17 Reply:

    @Panama City King, laughable. essentially the Kings give up ONLY JB for Gaborik. Seems a little one sided.

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  9. JackKent Cooke says:

    “you’ve got to worry about your game, your team and winning games, playing good hockey”.. Here is a follow-up question. What specifically about your game, team, winning games and playing good hockey are you worrying about?

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  10. KingsFanFTW says:

    BOO Ducks and the Devils are going to a OT!Devils had a 2-0 lead and end up tied….

    BOO that means if they lose they now 7 points behind us..BOO

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    KingsFanFTW Reply:

    @KingsFanFTW, well sucks the Suckers got a point but at least they lost

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    SLIM Reply:

    @KingsFanFTW,
    Well..Don’t despair…
    Sharts lost in regulation..

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    KingsFanFTW Reply:

    @SLIM, yea just wish the Coyotes lose for here and out LOL…

    Wish the Kings can get a long winning streak going but that looks like never going to happen

    Kings x Reply:

    @KingsFanFTW, They deserve to be where they are. They have been on a tear while we have our thumbs up our A

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  11. goldielocks says:

    I don’t want to admit it but great game between Devils and Sucks.

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  12. Gustavo says:

    “…you’ve got to worry about your game, your team and winning games, playing good hockey. That’s all you can control..”

    Stoll, you haven’t been able to control any of the above since the end of last season. You’re playing like crap each and every shift you’re on the ice….I’d be worried if I were you.

    But you do not read blogs, right? You’re soooooo
    cool. (wink wink wink)

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  13. neil says:

    DL’s biggest mistake??? Not having a backup plan for Parse,Stoll and Gagne.Two injuries and Richards injury…and we didnt have any replacements….Also if King and Nolan were brought up earlier instead of using Hunter and Moreau??? We need a proactive GM instead of one who is waiting…and still waiting….,

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    Mars Reply:

    @neil, No, his biggest was not retiring last year.
    I know nobody is perfect, but he can build a good back end, never (as far as I know) could build a front end team, so do your job on the back, then leave and let a front end man finish up.

    Know your strengths and know your weaknesses!
    obligatory Kenny Rogers quote … You know the one.

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    King Cobra Reply:

    @neil, Good Points

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  14. 7milforhickey says:

    i just finished watching the ducks lose in the shootout to the devils.
    and my god….
    does bryan hayward listen to himself talk?
    calling broduer lucky that getlaf didnt pick the top corner i wanted to vomit all over myself.

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    goldielocks Reply:

    @7milforhickey,

    At least he admited Getzlaf’s kicking motion very very reluctantly.

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    SLIM Reply:

    @7milforhickey,
    The upside to listening to Hazy is to learn
    What not to do to be an intelligent thoughtful human..

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    puckhandler Reply:

    @SLIM, +1 hahahaha

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    Kingsfanone Reply:

    @SLIM,

    That’s funny!

    And true! :D

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    c4sraser Reply:

    @7milforhickey, ya mean Tryin Heywerd

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  15. hip-check says:

    I think rumors are terrific..Makes our dull life as a Kings fan a bit entertaining.
    Certainly better than watch the team skate around and miss the net.

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  16. DEH says:

    Quick and Penner and a pick for Nash and Sanford. Bernier becomes starter problem solved, now we don’t have to worry about affording Quick with Nash’s caphit.

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    boxtimw17 Reply:

    @DEH,

    haha …Quick’s not going anywhere…

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    Jefreyryan Reply:

    @DEH, We do play better in front of bernier for whatever reason.. I still say no. Not by a long shot. He is the main reason we aren’t at the bottom of the league right now. That being said.. If he wants out ( he has every right too) we should trade him while hes still hot, and im fairly confident we could get a top six easily with just quick.

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    DEH Reply:

    @Jefreyryan, Penner is just to dump cap. It would basically be Nash for Quick, since with Nash our chances of affording Quick without a fire sale is not looking good.

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    Jefreyryan Reply:

    @DEH, Still no. If bernier is the main selling point for nash(or one of them) then what do you think we could get in return for a proven nhl all star goaltender. More then nash. Maybe MAYBE nash and carter. but just rick nash? no.

    DEH Reply:

    @Jefreyryan, I don’t really think trading for Nash is a good idea. But if we do and get him we will put ourselves in a tough situation when it comes to resigning Quick. If Bernier is included in that trade to get Nash then we have an even tougher situation. All I’m saying is if you’re dead set on getting Nash then trade Quick to get him and other pieces maybe b/c you’re not going to afford to resign him. Nash carries a 7.8 mil caphit for a few years. That is more than Stamkos, last I checked Stamkos puts up better numbers than Nash has ever put up. Nash would be good if his cap hit was around 6 – 6.5 mil. Kopitar puts up more points and Nash costs a full 1 million more on the cap.

    Steevogt Reply:

    @DEH, Nobody wants Penner. I don’t understand why everyone wants to throw him in on trades. Nobody wants him, no matter what.

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    DEH Reply:

    @Steevogt, look if we’re going to give them Quick they’re going to take Penner off our hands!

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    Steven H Brown Reply:

    @Steevogt, The point of putting Penner in a deal, is that it makes the caps space for the Kings this season, and since his contract is expiring, it gives the team we trade him to cap space in the future. Any deal we do with CBJ for either Carter or Nash probably includes Penner, to give us the cap space to put the players we trade for on the roster, because if we trade only young NHL talent, AHL prospects and draft choices, then we haven’t traded much salary away, and would be over the cap. That’s why some people keep mentioning JJ when they talk about trade rumors, because he has a hefty salary, and would allow us to take on some salary this season. DL can also get some cap relief for the end of the season, by putting gagne on long term IR, but then he is out until training camp, even if he miraculously recovers his health.

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  17. DEH says:

    Look Nash is makes more than money Stamkos without putting up Stamkos numbers… just saying since we’re in the business of comparing contracts on this site. He’s under performing buy our logic, we should hate him!!

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    King Cobra Reply:

    @DEH, Why not, we give 7 million a year to Doubty.

    For what I am not exactly sure?? Oh yeah, it is for when he will (may) become a great d man in 7 years – when his contract will be over….

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    DEH Reply:

    @King Cobra, look Doughty’s point numbers year in and year out are not that far off from Weber if not better, playing is Nashville’s system he would have way more goals and more assists. This year they’re not that good but still alright for a D-man, then again find me a player on the kings (besides Kopitar) that has good point numbers. All I’m saying if we trade for Nash I’d give it a week before we bash him for being an overpaid under performing slouch. Last time we made a desperate trade for a winger mid season we ended up with Penner. Remember last year, Penner’s number’s were actually better than Nash’s numbers now at the time of the trade.

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  18. goldielocks says:

    Datsyuk scored GWG 5 sec left in regulation …

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    SLIM Reply:

    @goldielocks,
    Unbelievable…

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    CabbagesAndKings Reply:

    @goldielocks, Datsyuk is like pure magic. He took Weber to school on the first goal and Suter to school on the game winning goal. If we had Datsyuk, I’d be a season ticket holder — he makes every game worth it.

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    King Cobra Reply:

    @goldielocks, I Think that guy is really an alien. He is is just to good to be human!

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  19. goldielocks says:

    That’s what superstar does … save the team singlehandedly …sigh …

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  20. Peter90210 says:

    Speaking of the trade deadline, I propose we trade Penner for a basket of chicken wings at Hooters.

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    Harty Reply:

    @Peter90210, we would only get 1 pound, we would need at least 3 pounds and some curly fries……

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  21. Neil says:

    DO NOT TRADE JOHNSON!!!!! That would be the biggest mistake Lombardi made besides hiring terry Murray. Give up doughty before considering Johnson. How about stoll, brown, Martinez, and bernier for Nash…

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    DEH Reply:

    @Neil, how about not trading for Nash? The guy makes more than Stamkos and has never put up stamkos numbers. Since we’re in the business of bashing people with big contracts that don’t play as well as someone else who gets paid less than them.

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  22. JMFJ#3 says:

    Doughty for Nash Straight up. contracts are even and we have more Dmen in the pipeline than Wingers that can score.

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    Steevogt Reply:

    @JMFJ#3, I would make that trade in a heartbeat.

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    tbrads Reply:

    @JMFJ#3, I would do that trade too!

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    Kingscup25 Reply:

    @JMFJ#3, I’m really getting tired of the doughty bashing. The kid is a great player. Support your players. Nothing good comes from what you’re doing.

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    kingrussell Reply:

    @Kingscup25, Exactly. Doughty has played very well since the fist month.

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    Mars Reply:

    @Kingscup25, I am not mad about the salary, I am mad about him holding out. Sure the price is high now, but it will work out. My biggest worry is keeping Quick. I am scared about him leaving for a better opportunity. If we keep him, he should go down in the books as one of the greats in Kings history

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    tbrads Reply:

    @Kingscup25, I’m not saying Drew isnt a good player. He is and will probably become great. But he is not worth $ 7 million right now. He came across as being greedy and selfish by holding out. I look to players like Nick Lidstrom (granted he is way more mature than Drew) and The Sedins who took reasonable salaries in order to keep the cap and the team in mind. Allegedly all Drew wanted was to be the highest paid King. That is not looking out for the team.

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    King Cobra Reply:

    @JMFJ#3, Do the trade. We need to keep that little mother.

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  23. Cruiznblue says:

    I bet Doughty would have wished he was more reasonable on what he expected for a contract if he was traded to Columbus! That would show him.

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    Cruiznblue Reply:

    @Cruiznblue,

    doh…this was meant to be a reply to the post above…

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    Steven H Brown Reply:

    @Cruiznblue, Your comments on DD are idiotic! In a few years DD will be like Nick lidstrom is now, the guy who could win, the Norris every year. He is 22 and will still be in the league a dozen years from now. DL is the guy at fault for the holdout, A he gave doughty what he and his agent wanted in the end, B after trading for Mike Richards, they still wasted time making an offer for Brad Richards, before they got Doughty”s deal done! In fact although JJ worked out a good deal for himself and the Kings, and DD was RFA DL needed to do DD’s deal ahead of JJ’s. When the season ended last year the most important thing DL had to do was get DD signed, and he failed to do it on time, that as much as anything else that DL did or didn’t do, cost TM his job!

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    northern fan Reply:

    @Steven H Brown, Well said. DD and his agent made a good business deal – and this is big business. Good for them. DD will get back on track now that there is someone to coach him. He just needs to get his confidence back after hearing how much he sucked as a player from DL during the contract negotiations. Most people have no idea what transpires during those negotiations. Cut DD some slack – his game is coming around.

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  24. fvkingsfan says:

    U can’t trade quick for Nash straight up..7.8 mil to quicks 1.8? We would be plus 6 mil over the cap. If anything trade jj and a prospect for carter. That would be pretty even.
    Guys if u look at the stats and compare Nash and carter they score just as many goals on avg. Per season in their careers. Plus Richards will get so excited his buddy will.be in town

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  25. fvkingsfan says:

    Then in the off season we shud trade for pronger and briere. Then to top it off we shud change our team colors to orange. Then coast…..

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    Steven H Brown Reply:

    @fvkingsfan, I know this is a joke, but Pronger is likely done. Even if he has a season or 2 left, they will be 50-60 games and 20 mins a night tops.

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  26. Kings x says:

    If anyone caught anson Carter on NHL tonight….he basically said that any player who says he’s not checking the rumors and feeling the anxiety is a complete and total liar. He said it is a very stressful time no matter who you are for ou and your family. Stoll is superhuman with his pc response

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    Steven H Brown Reply:

    @Kings x, Stoll is single, which probably makes a difference, since if he has to pick up and go, that’s all he needs to take care of. I liked Anson Carter as a player, and I like what little of his commentary I have seen on NHL Network, but he was nearly as bad as a King, as Grant Fuhr was.

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    Harty Reply:

    @Steven H Brown, Married or not it has nothing to do with being traded.

    At times the teams will ask guys who they prefer to be traded to, but Stoll wouldn’t be one of those guys.

    Gretzky, Nash yes, Stoll no….

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  27. King Cobra says:

    The only thing Stoll is worried about is his hair and what Polo shirt he is going to wear tonight.

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  28. Harty says:

    Well folks it must be almost over……..

    to Columbus
    -Bernier
    -Stoll
    -Penner
    -minor league player to be named later

    to LA
    -Nash
    -Sanford

    keep wishing,

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    Harty Reply:

    @Harty, check out our PP then……..

    (Nash, Kopitar, Richards…..with Doughty and Mitchell on the back end)

    -Kompton cannot possibly screw this one up????????

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    Canadian King Reply:

    @Harty, I would love to see that but I doubt Columbus will take both Penner and Stoll, still think JJ has to be involved to get it done. Which is alright by me, he basically lost the last game for us anyways!

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  29. jonsey says:

    I almost would rather DL didn’t panic and make a trade. He’s going to. Because if this team fails to make the playoffs, he’s done. And if they’re out in the first. He’s done.

    So he might do a high-risk trade, just to keep his job. And if it doesn’t pan out, the team might be even worse off.

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  30. Stuart says:

    scary that the sharts picked up moore… gearing up for the playoffs, for sure…

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