The Kings went through another hour-long practice today, with no lineup changes.
Before practice, Simon Gagne skated again for about a half-hour. After practice, I talked to Gagne and he discussed his progress, saying that he is still working toward getting in shape, a natural given that he was off the ice for six weeks. Much more from him, and other notes and quotes, to come…
does that mean that “getting in shape” is the only setback right now??
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Jgomez Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@Stuart, That would be great to hear. Wouldn’t mind having him back in the lineup…
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
@Jgomez, Especially in the future when our offense gets that spark AND luck back. Has to happen can’t get any worse.
Then we probably don’t need Nash!!!
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Canadian King Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@rogiesbackup, Hahaha we will always need Nash, Gagne didn’t light it up before he was injured why would he after.
Jgomez Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@rogiesbackup, He didn’t light it up but he was at about .5 points per game which isn’t bad. Plus, he wasn’t the only struggling as all of our players have gone through nasty droughts
Is he able to go to a minor league affiliate on a Rehab Assignment?
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Even if the concussion symptom’s are gone, he’s still a long ways away from NHL action.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@TheRussianKing,
I don’t exepct him to be ready until next season.
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@DesertKing, Yup me too. I think Crosby is doing it right; taking it waaaay slow into getting back into it. Gagne should do same.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
@rogiesbackup, Agreed.
Nash!
…also on a non-important but slightly interseting sidenote, Thursday’s game is the last scheduled one to use our current 3rd jerseys (purple and black)…is it the last time we’ll see those worn? will they be back next year? only time will tell…
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Shakes, maybe we’ll see them in a game in round 2?
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@Stuart, Against the TWINS. GO KINGS GO!!!
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vladimir Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@Forum Gold, Against N.Y. in final.GO KINGS.
LA_1968 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@Shakes, I don’t think they set a time limit on keeping the third jerseys around. However, it looked to me that they kept them just because they have so much gear for sale, and for internal use with just that crown on them. If they got rid of the third jersey that crown would have been left floating in no man’s land.
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Belexes Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@Shakes,
Who then will be the linemate for Gagne and Nash?
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@Belexes, I like you’re thinking! I say MR.
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Shakes Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
@Belexes,
it doesn’t matter since we don’t seem to have more than two forwards in the offenseive zone at once very much anyways…
Jokey jokey aside, was I delirious, or has DS started using 4 forward + 1 dman on powerplays (I believe he had Richards on the point last game for a PP)
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PP Anybody? Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
@Shakes, Haha! So true.
wavesinair Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@Shakes,
Richards was on the point. Don’t know if it was by design, but he was there.
JWR Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@Shakes,
Richards did play the point on the PP when with the Flyers.
petemagoop Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
@Shakes, Richards was on the point steady in Philly
jp Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
@Belexes, I don’t like playing into hypotheticals too much, but it’d probably be Williams-Kopi-Nash and Gagne-Richards-Brown, with Williams switching sides. Alternative would be Williams playing natural position with Richards and Brown switching to left wing, which we know he’s done well at in the past. That would probably end up being the largest top line in the NHL.
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ddc Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
@jp,
that’s how i had it slated too…
assuming it would take penner, stoll, hunter, bernier, and a pick to get him (as has been rumored in LA), i still like the way things would look…
nash – kopitar – williams
king (gagne if/when he comes back) – richards – brown
clifford – loktionov – nolan
lewis – fraser – richardson (westgarth when we need someone beat up)
doughty – scuderi
johnson – mitchell
martinez/voynov – greene
quick
number 6 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
@Belexes,
http://www.fiveminutesforfighting.com/2012/02/pointcounterpoint-trading-farm-for-nash.html
Here is a ‘teaser’ from the article: Counterpoint: Nash turns 28 this summer and has yet to have a really big season. He has only once surpassed 70 points in nine seasons.”
Another one: He has only placed in the top-5 in hits for the Blue Jackets once.
Another one: Point: Since Nash broke into the league in 2002-03 only seven players have scored more than his 277 goals. Those players are Patrick Marleau, Vincent Lecavalier, Marian Hossa, Dany Heatley, Alex Ovechkin, Jarome Iginla, and Ilya Kovalchuk. Not too shabby.
Counterpoint: Over that same period of time 24 players have tallied more points than Nash’s 527. Those include Ray Whitney, Alex Tanguay, Milan Hejduk, and Shane Doan. Not exactly elite company.
The Kings are nuts to trade away the farm to get Nash. Vancouver wants him, NYR want him. That Does make sense as they are in a position to win the Cup. The Kings aren’t in a position to win the cup so the only reason for DL to pull off such a deal is to secure his job.
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@number 6, wait, so you think it’s a valid counterpoint to say tht only, ONLY, 24 players have talled more pts than him in that span??? 24 out of how many HUNDREDS of players??? All players? Not even just forwards??? If that’s a counter, it’s a real weak one, IMO… I’ll read the article.
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@number 6, just to add, since I must be hazy on what “farm” means… what would be considered trading away the “farm?” is it the picks? Is it the back-up goalie? maybe the couple of prospects that DL’s been stock piling? Or is it JJ, or whatever other Dman off of our roster not named Mitchell? please help me understand, or is it just cliche to throw the term around?
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
@number 6, my apologies
those things were lifted right out of the articel, so it wasn’t your notion that the farm would be trading… interesting:
“Scott Howson isn’t the league’s best GM, but he isn’t going to get Darryl Sutter’d over this one.” OUCH
“Nash is paid like an elite player, but the truth is he isn’t.” Really? he’s called a superstar, but not elite? fine line there…
Point – I hope DL tries to save his job by landing Nash…
Canadian King Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@Belexes, I would like to see Nash with Richards, they already played together on a line at the 2010 Olympics with Toews and were Canadas best line. So you know they already have the chemistry. PLus Kopi, Williams and Brown already have chemistry and are our best line to date. Then when Gagne is healthy throw him with Nash and Richards or put him on the third line with Lokti and he can give him some guidance and veteran leadership.
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King Alex Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@Shakes, I hope they are back next year but I would not bet on it at this point. With the season ticket price increase already on the books another new revenue stream would be to bring in another new jersey to sell us fans. Hopefully some of this new revenue AEG is going to bring in will go to getting a top notch winger. If I am not mistaken, there have been some Nash rumors flying around. I think I’ve read about them somewhere…..
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Shakes Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@King Alex, who is this “Nash” you speak of? you’re not referring to the late great CBS show “Nash Bridges” by any chance are you?
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King Alex Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@Shakes, Don Johnson is a terrific skater although he may be a little old. I thought everyone was speaking of “The Nash” from the movie Wonderland as someone else mentioned yesterday. Apologies for not knowing the original blogger who brought up “The Nash” yesterday.
DesertKing Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
@Shakes,
I like it when he shoots the opposing players with his handgun, then skates by to score and then drives home in his 70′s Charger. Man, what a horrible show!
deadendcruiser Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@King Alex, No prob, I knew someone would get my Wonderland reference.
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TeamJMFJ Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@Shakes, i miss those jerseys more than i wouldve ever thought before. i was stoked for the black/silver combo but i really do miss the purple now…
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Shakes Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@TeamJMFJ,
agreed, they look really ridiculously classy. maybe the put a tweak on the jersey like putting the home plate logo on the shoulder pads, but it’s one of my favorites. it’s simple, classy, and (dare i say) iconic.
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
@Shakes, And bring back the Crown. Hockey is tradition. GO KINGS GO!!!
DesertKing Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
@Shakes,
Nash = First
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rogiesbackup Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@Shakes, I hope the Kings take it farther next season and go ALL OUT gold like in the mid / early seventies!
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
@rogiesbackup, Your going to catch some flack for that statement. GO KINGS GO!!!
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So do you think Gagne will be ready for playoffs if we get that far or is he done for the year?
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@okufirst, The fact that he is skating and shooting the puck is a good sign and also the fact that he said he is working on getting back in shape. That is a good sign that he will be back either by the end of the regular season or playoffs. All I have to say with the price increase for next season, they better bring in someone big. Also with the extra revenue coming in from us ticket holders, if we renew, it can be used to bring in Nash AND Parise
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MK Ultra Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@okufirst,
Playoffs? You’re talkin playoffs?
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a few days ago i posted that i was taking my son (and family) to the ‘hawks game on the 25th and i wanted to do something special for him. my original idea was to get him either acknowledged at the Staples center or on t.v. with Bob and Jim. my problem was i didn’t know how to go about doing this and i asked for help/suggestion here on thus blog. I got a very nice, and varied, response from about 10 different folks. Bottom line, I was pointed to the website and to contact the team via Kings Royal Service. I emailed them yesterday and today at 1030 am I got a phone call from a very nice representative who had an offer that I snapped up right away. The entire family will view the warm ups for the game from the visiting team’s penalty box! Man I can’t wait and I’m sure it’s going to be a very memorable experience for my son. So thank you to everyone who offered their help and support – it was invaluable.
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Belexes Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
@red49er,
Nice! Can we all come too?
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King Alex Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
@red49er, Hope you and the family have a great time! If I may ask, what’s the cost for something like that?
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
@King Alex, inquiring minds would like to know… that sounds like a sweet evening!
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red49er Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@King Alex, 200 hundred bucks, will spend about 15 minutes in the box – a triple major!
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red49er Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@red49er, looks like i forgot to mention that this is for his 6th birthday.
KingsGuy Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@red49er, Thanks for the notice. I’ll be checking it out when I take my son next time.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
@red49er, Your Son is going to be over the moon. Now if only the Kings can score some goals and win it would make for a perfect evening. Not sure what the cost of that package is but it is good that you snatched it up this year, as next it will probably be a lot more expensive.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@red49er,
Excellent. Nice to know the Kings organization is taking care of its special fans!
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c4sraser Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@DesertKing, my family and i went on that royal experience a few years ago ,it totally awesome. Kyle Caulder flipped a puck over the glass n my daughter caught it. The Kings staff are truely awesome also.
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
@red49er, Great to hear. I’ll be looking for ya at that game. Already got my tickets … remember it is an early start for that game!
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Andrew Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
@red49er, I’ve done this. You spend a lot of time in there, it’s great. You’ll also have some black rubber souvenirs to take home for sure. The game I did this at was against SJ. Needless to say I was ready to drop the gloves when they skated up to the door.
Have a great time, GKG!
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variable Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
@red49er,
great news…and i hope you, yr son and yr whole family enjoy the moment…(!)
very cool and classy for the kings to accommodate you…
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Feels like it should be gameday. GO KINGS GO!!!
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i hope Gagne gets well fast cause th eKings need him…Yea those two rookies are great but they only going to be soo good for how long into they turn into Lokti..
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Go Gags!
Get Nash anyway (and Malkin and Carter and Stamkos too).
Wasn’t Nash Bridges paired with Bart Crashley?
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Did anyone get there renewal info DAMN my tickets went up 4 bucks a seat in 218 and we haven’t even gotten out of the first rounds or we may not make the playoffs this year. I guess I’m paying for Doughty 2 new cars and 7 million a year….. Shhhhhhhh
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@David H, you’re paying for a potentially long playoff run…
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
@Stuart, With Nash on Wing. Then on July 1st with all the extra money they have gotten from us season ticket holders they use it to sign Parise.
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
@Jeff_R, just imagine all the highway robbery, er – I mean revenue, AEG would stand to make on 4 series worth of playoff games???
Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@Stuart LOL Stuart.
Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@David H, I wish mine went up $4 bucks a seat. Mine went up $12-13 a seat. From $22.50-23.50 to $35. If I renew after March 24th they are $39.50.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@Jeff_R, Oh and that is row 2 in the 300′s. If I move back a row it is $27.50 a seat.
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Michael J. Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
@Jeff_R,
Move back
Capt Jam Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@David H,
My full season tix are going up $2 per seat for center ice in the 300s. Considering I pay less than half the retail price of the same seat (even with this increase), I can’t complain.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
@Capt Jam, How much per seat is it? What Row are you in?
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Sdgolfer Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
@David H, Who’s forcing you to buy season tickets?
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I’d rather he didn’t play even though we could really use him. It’s just stupid to risk your long term health for a sport. But, of course, the athletes themselves always think the game is the important thing.
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Deke'r Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@Weasel, …that’s why their pros and make the big bucks……
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The pieces are slowly falling back into the place at the right time. Now, all the Kings have to do is win.
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If Gagne could come back for the playoffs that would be a HUGE boost I dont care if he hasnt played in a while. He’s a proven producer and if you get him on that second line with Richards (remember they both set career highs in points playing together) thats natural chemistry already that will help him coming back from a long break. HOWEVER that being said I dont believe he should come if he doesnt feel ABSOLUTELY 100% because its stupid risking your long term health. And remember, it would be better if he coyld rest up and be ready to go for training camp next year.
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Line projections if we got Nash in a trade and Gagne back? That’s like playing my favorite game ever.
Gagne – Richards – Nash
Brown – Kopitar – Williams
Clifford – Stoll – Richardson/Lewis
King – Loktionov – Nolan
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Harry Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@CabbagesAndKings,
IF we do get NASH, which is a long shot…then Stoll would need to go.
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HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
@Harry, IMO I think Lokiti along with Penner would be gone and they would have Clfford-Stoll-Lewis for the 3rd line and Richardson centering the 4th.
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CabbagesAndKings Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration, I think in that situation we would just keep Fraser centering the 4th line.
Deke'r Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
@Harry, LOL….come on man…everyone in the office heard me laugh out loud….have mercy baby….
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@CabbagesAndKings, nope, forget it, we’d be trading the farm when we should hitch our wagon to King, Lokti, Nolan and the other farm hands…
And besides, our D is too fragile to lose one of our pieces… And we won’t be able to afford JQ in 2 years, so let’s keep JB on the pine until we’re certain…
/end sarcasm soaked font
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Harty Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
@CabbagesAndKings, more like given someone will be gone in the trade, my preferred line up……..
Gagne, Kopitar, Nash
Brown, Richards, Nolan
Clifford, Lotkionov, Lewis
King, Fraser, Westgarth/Richardson
…..with Penner, Stoll, Bernier gone in the trade.
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CabbagesAndKings Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
@Harty, As Richards and Nash made up 2/3 of the best line in the Olympics — Putting those two together seems like the most obvious starting point.
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Save, Hrudey! Reply:
February 16th, 2012 at 1:29 am
@Harty,
No Williams?
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CUP4LA Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
@CabbagesAndKings,
Nash plays LW.
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CUP4LA Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@CUP4LA, oops ….never mind.
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Stuart, do you call Kopitar a “superstar” ?
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
@HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration, not yet. As soon as he stops his 10 game hiatus’ during various parts of the season, I would def call him one!
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Harty Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
@HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration, I personally do call Kopitar a superstar status in today’s game
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
@Harty, I thought he was real close, and I thought this year he’d have his “superstar” arrival…but I was duped.
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CabbagesAndKings Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@Stuart, I’m inclined to agree. Although Kopi can definitely take over a shift, he hasn’t been able to take over a game (much less several games) — and I think that’s a big difference.
I’d only put 7 or 8 players up in that superstar status, and Kopi just isn’t quite there yet.
Free Moreau!!!
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
@DesertKing, isn’t that only if they slash someone in the McMoreau minute??
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DesertKing Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
@Stuart,
I can only imaginie what that coupon would look like!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
@DesertKing,
It’s got some blood on it!!
Just a reminder that Luc and Mike Richards will be on 570am at 3pm. GO KINGS GO!!!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
@Forum Gold, I wonder if they will ask Luc about the price increases, since he is the head of Business Operations.
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@Jeff_R, They are going to have a live audience so maybe an Insider will be attending and let us know what it was like. They don’t take phone calls so I’m thinking softball questions for Luc. GO KINGS GO!!!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@Forum Gold, Figures. The Media guys here on the radio don’t care much about hockey so I doubt any of it will be hockey related, cept a minor one about why the team isn’t scoring. That is if they even know about that.
petemagoop Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
@Forum Gold, doesn’t look like I can listen to this station online, is that correct?
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
@petemagoop, you should be able to… google 570 am radio los angeles
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
@petemagoop, http://www.am570radio.com/main.html At the top they have a listen live box. Hope this works for you. We get so little coverage in this town so I will listen just to get myself through a non gameday. GO KINGS GO!!!
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For those hungry for Nash deal info: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=617049
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@KC23, interesting that names of other teams’ players are given as possible deal components, but none from the kings…
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CabbagesAndKings Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
@Stuart, I don’t think Corey Masisek (the writer) has every stayed up late enough to actually watch a Kings game, so probably has no idea who is on the roster as potential pieces.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@CabbagesAndKings, That is true, but you would think he might stay up a little late since it looks like the Kings are frontrunners in obtaining Nash.
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
@Jeff_R, maybe it only looks that way to us on the other coast… It would be a tragedy for the NHL to lose Nash to the other coast. That would make two in one calendar year… we must be kidding ourselves, the NYR or TOR have Nash in the bag already…
Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@Stuart, Well if you think about it the NHL needs L.A. to do well so they would make sure Nash comes to us.
They thought they had it done with Kovy and they tried hard to make it happen, but it didn’t work. So they will make sure it works with Nash. 
Deke'r Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@CabbagesAndKings, ….or the Kings aren’t in the running…..
If a Nash or Carter trade happens, I feel sorry for whoever ends up in Columbus.
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This post kind of spooks me about Nash. Has a very Penner-isk feel to it.
“I live in the usa, the only games i get on my TV are columbus Blue Jacket games, i see a lot of their games and Nash is invisible most games, i watch him play and he seems to have this i dont care look about him that drives me crazy, and please dont say its because he is in Columbus, with the money they pay the guy he should be busting his romp to make them win, and very rarely is Nash the best Columbus player on the ice game in game out. he has talent, he has size, what he lacks is heart, i totally agree with EMOKNOWS. Nash kind of reminds me of Joe Thornton actually, way over hyped and never comes thru for his team when needed. Whoever gets him, if anyone, will overpay for his services and regret doing it 3 years from now big time, dont expect Nash to lead, he is a follower, and doesnt even do that very well for the money he is being paid. Learn from the Gomez fiasco NHL teams, he isnt worth it. No way!!”
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
@KC23, wow… but to say he reminds of Jumbo…ugh, just picturing him rolling like a turtle on his back on our center ice…
but that post is kind of alarming.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
@Stuart, Before you reat to this post, why not wait until he gets on a team that is actually a REAL TEAM as olumbus is anything but thanks to bad management mistakes.
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
@Jeff_R, true that! AND I’d still roll the dice because when it comes to Penns…there can only be one! lol
Nash comes with a big price tag. Word has it that Patrick Kane out of Chicago might be on the block. Chi needs a goalie like the Kings need scoring. Kane for Bernier ?? Definetely more affordable if it doesnt cost us JJ. and only if we insist that CHI takes Penner also. LOL
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outsider Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
@UglyinLA, I would take Kane over Nash anytime! NO Nash or Carter for me…
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IceGuy Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@UglyinLA,
All things considered, here’s what I dare predict.
No Nash. No Carter.
If any “big trade” is made, it’ll probably be with the BlackHawks right after we beat them on Feb 25.
Kane stays in LA, Bernier packs up for Chicago.
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outsider Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
@IceGuy, Well said. I would love it!!
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