There’s no rest for the wicked, or for teams trying to stand on solid ground in the Western Conference playoff race. At this point, there are five teams — Detroit, Vancouver, San Jose, St. Louis and Nashville — that can feel good about themselves, and seven teams — Chicago, the Kings, Phoenix, Calgary, Colorado, Dallas and Minnesota — all eyeing three playoff spots and all within seven points of each other. If nothing else, at least the Kings hold their own fate in their hands, largely. They have two home games this week against Phoenix and Calgary, and then road games against Phoenix and Colorado. So, as Darryl Sutter well knows, the Kings have no time to relax now that their season-long six-game road trip is over.
SUTTER: “It’s the same. I didn’t look at it as a trip. I looked at it as the two back-to-backs and the two games in Florida. Now we do the same thing. We’ve got two at home and two on the road. So you’ve got to break it down and be ready for it. You’re in a position where you want to do everything you can to hold your spot.’’
It was then pointed out to Sutter that the next two teams the Kings face — Phoenix and Calgary — are the two teams directly behind them, the two teams trying to breathe down the Kings’ collective neck…
SUTTER: “Not trying to. They is. [laughs] That’s the best part. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. I didn’t know, with 20-some games left, that it wasn’t supposed to be like that. I would have bet, at the start of the year, if someone had said (you’d be) chasing San Jose. That’s what we’re trying to do.’’
To that end, the Kings have today and tomorrow to prepare for Phoenix, after yesterday’s day off. The Kings held an hour-long practice today — “It was good energy. They needed a day off, and they needed to get their amp going again,’’ Sutter said — but the coach did have to bark at the players once, as periodically happen when drills get messed up and/or aren’t executed properly. As for his scolding today, Sutter said, “Do it right. It’s not that hard. Pass, receive, shoot, skate…’’
SCORE MORE GOALS!
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
@Shuchuk, Ha ha ha! I had no idea, but this is the only post on this whole thread that isn’t trade related. Sorry Rich. It was a good article.
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Michael J. Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:06 am
@Dominick,
Rich could post his mother’s all-time recipes and the thread content would take a life of its own.
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Shakes Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 10:04 am
@Michael J.,
the evolution would go something like this:
1.Rich’s mom’s recipes
2. pancake recipes
3. Penner
…this is where it gets really interseting, because now it could go to:
4a. trades –> package with Bernier –> Nash
OR
4b. try him on 4th line –> demote Lokti (for some reason) –> change Brown from being captain
it’s really a fluid situation.
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 10:07 am
@Shakes, An’ though the course may change sometimes. Rivers always reach the sea.
Donald_S Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:21 am
@Shuchuk,
The thing the Kings need more of, is what they got last night. 2 point (and not 3 point) games in the Western Conference. No 3 point games yesterday.
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Just thought I’d get it over with.
Rick Nash.
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
@Dominick, LMFAO!!!! how did you beat me to it!!!???
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
@Stuart, Hey Stuart, I didn’t know you were as enamored with Rick Nash as I have always been, good to know! I’m not much for rumors and/or speculation but, how does this sound for a trade that I think would help both the Kings and CBJ. Nash and Sanford for Bernier, Johnson or Voynov, Hickey, Lokti and a #1 pick. Obviously Nash answers some big scoring questions for the Kings, Sanford gives them a veteran backup for the remainder of the season and for CBJ, Bernier gives them that potential top starting goaltender, Johnson gives them a legitimate top 4 Dman or Voynov would give them a top Dman prospect, Hickey would give them an AHL all-star caliber-top 5 draft pick-top 2way Dman prospect and Lokti is that top 6 potential center. Obviously this deal would also help CBJ with cap space for next season and for a couple seasons after. I guess I’m just getting a little of the rumor fever too!
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11 or 3 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@Shotongoal, that seems like an awful lot to give up
Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@Shotongoal, I would part ways with all those that you mentioned, but I would imagine that CBJ would want proven NHL ready players, so that would mean JJ rather than VV and if they would agree to Hickey, Lokti AND the pick, I think it would only make sense to pull the trigger… The only reason I had thrown DB’s name in the ring before was because I can’t help but feel that CBJ would like his lead by example for the youn’ens they’d br bringing up in the very near future, and it would remove whatever, if there’s any, uneasiness over the “C” and all that it entails…
In all honesty, it would be hard to not pull the trigger for any of the players on our roster aside from JQ, AK, DD, and MR… otherwise I would do what it took to get Nashty on the Kings.
Shotongoal Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@Shotongoal, @ 11 or 3, no disrespect, but do you know how talented Rick Nash is? This is a top 10 NHL player, in the same breath as Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, well hopefully you get the point. Nash IS the difference maker.
Shotongoal Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
@Shotongoal, @Stuart I get what you’re saying but I don’t think the Kings have top 6 forward depth to add Brown in this deal. They do have the D depth as we know. Also, I think CBJ becomes a player for Parise if they deal Nash and NJ can’t / won’t resign him. The younger talent/prospects gives them that cap space to make a run at a top UFA.
Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
@Shotongoal, and you’re probably right, we don’t have the depth, but I was just thinking that CBJ would want his experience and game in the deal…someone that everyfanColumbus can get behind. With Nash in the top 6 somewhere, that leaves JW, and one of the two, if not both, of the young guys staying up for the stretch run… it does sound shaky, but hell think of the offensive possibility??!!!
And with re: to Parise, I can’t see him choosing CBJ over anyone else, no matter the money that’s thrown his way…
Shotongoal Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
@Shotongoal, @Stuart I tend to agree about Parise but who knows, I really didn’t think Wisnewski would go there either. Money does have a way of changing things. Again though, Parise was just a UFA example. I think if CBJ does trade Nash they become big players in FA market, if cap space is available especially with the ASG there next season. This is probably a whole lot of peeing in the wind stuff, but I have coveted Nash since day one!
Kings x Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
@Shotongoal, Bernier, JJ, penner + 1st
Shotongoal Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
@Shotongoal, @ Kings x, please mix in a little reality! This is NOT NHL12. Explain why that would work for CBJ?
USHA#17 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:29 am
@Shotongoal, Yeah, can’t help but love a guy who is close to minus 80 lifetime and rarely passes. Just what the doctor ordered…hospice doctor.
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:08 am
@USHA#17, I would imagine that even the best offensive talent would be a career minus on CBJ and considering who has been around him all his career, it’s no wonder he doesn’t pass much…instead, he just passes right into the net…in 9 seasons he’s hit the 30+ goal mark at least 7 times… ON COLUMBUS.
Shotongoal Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:09 am
@USHA#17 Are you serious? Well I guess you probably are or you wouldn’t have said right? I’m actually not going to say anything else about your post. We shall just disagree on Nash’s value.
jose Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:38 am
@Shotongoal, just give away the farm why don’t you…amazing!
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:44 am
@jose, what’s so amazing, other than the thought of landing Rick Nash on the Kings??? some of the people that consider what’s been proposed by a few posters in return for Nash as too much OBVIOUSLY have never seen Nash play, unless he’s playing the Kings or something… There are about 10 forwards in the ENTIRE LEAGUE that are as skilled as he is, and maybe 10 is too many! If money and cap space is the arguement, then I can see why someone would say it’s damn near impossible, but to think that trading our back-up, a roster proven Dman and some young prospects is too much, then I do’t even know what to say other than you should go and watch some Nash hilights and then tell me you wouldn’t want him dangling in a Kings uni… (beleive you me I had to really tone down my consternation for fear of the hammer striking)
Shotongoal Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 10:19 am
@Jose thanks @Stuart I couldn’t have said it better. I now have vice grip marks on my thumbs from keeping from writing what I really thought about this persons post. Amazing indeed!!!
KingInASeaOfGreen Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
@Dominick, OMG Rick Nash is coming to the Kings!! And what’s that you say, we’re getting him for Penner and a spare puck! This must be true!!
Thought I would get that over with!
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DesertKing Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
@Dominick,
At least you didn’t say “first.”
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Shakes Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 10:05 am
@DesertKing, Nash is the new first
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Deadendcruiser Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
@Dominick, Can we start referring to him as “the Nash”?……..just saw the movie Wonderland
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Sebastian Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:12 am
@Dominick, HAHA, SOoooo, Voynov and Bernier for Nash….or even better, Penner-Hunter-Martinez-Stoll–Davis Drewiskie for Nash and Parise.
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royalpurple Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
@Sebastian, save you’re breath man. There is no way columbus would give up Nash for a gift basket full of under achivers and our two worst defensive prospects. Don’t get me wrong, its great to have a stock pile of talented, could be NHL’ers, however thats is no way to part a veteran, elite, franchise player from his organization. Nash will cost us Bernie and at least one top forward or dman on our roster (meaning Brownie or JJ). Would you trade Kopi for a package that was featuring someone like Penner!? Come on now… This is an elite player were speaking of here. If we want Nash in LA we’re gonna have to trade a couple of our good players for a great one… Is he the answer to the cup? Who knows. We thought Gretzky was the answer once remember..
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royalpurple Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
@royalpurple, The one thing that we do have in our favor is JB. He’s one of the most prized goaltending prospects in the league. If Columbus is serious about getting a number one goaltender, they may be focusing on JB, which would give us a great advantage.
Pass, receive, shoot (on net), skate (to the middle dot after you’ve scored a goal), it’s simple really…
freericknash!!
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McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
@Stuart, All I was saying earlier was the same thing SoG was saying above; do we have the depth to include Brown?? Nash with Kopi, sounds great, no questions asked.
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
@McSorleyfan, maybe we don’t, but if DB is a must have, I pull the trigger and have the boys stay up with the club and play with MR and have JW-AK-RN, even if someone is playing out of position… heck, put KC up on the first line
KC-AK-RN
DK-MR-JN
JW-AK-TL
KW-CF-BR/TH
IDK, it’s late and I’m tired and I’m going to dream that RNash becomes a king and we win the cup in 1 game
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
@Stuart, I must be tired, that 3rd line should read JW-AL-TL
goodnight all
mrbrett7 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:40 am
@Stuart, Just a little bit here.
Rick Nash is a LW I believe, not a RW (may be wrong there).
Justin Williams is a RW, not a LW.
I would rather see Kopi playing with Nash on his left and Williams on his right.
But, I SINCERELY doubt Dustin Brown is even on the table.
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:56 am
@Stuart, you’rr correct, so RN-AK-JW, but I think he’d play with MR rather than AK, so there would be some line shuffling involved.
And the only reason I even mentioned DB’s name is because I would imagine that CBJ would see him as a piece to their puzzle that would be a good role model for their younger players and as a player that the community can get behind and really support… Also, when I speak of DB being moved, my main point is that if he were a make or break point on the trade, I would move him.
Damn it, guys….stop bringing up rumours and tweets from respected sources…..my refresh button is wore out long ago from Kovi and Brad Richards…..now Nash?
Sigh, refresh, refresh, refresh for two weeks……
GKG!
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There was some talk that Nash should go to the Penguins, then they’d only need Stills and Young to complete the group…
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Bonvivant1 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
@SLG1013, You just dated yourself. LOL
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
@Bonvivant1, But it was classic. LOL
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SLG1013 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
@Bonvivant1, Apparently, you just did as well…
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Keeper Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
@SLG1013, That was hilarious!
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edwood2 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
@SLG1013, Young used to play for the Pens, back in the Mario days.
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We will win the cup without carter or nash and everyone will say how they knew we would without them.
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
@Lake Forest, Back away from that vaperizer.
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Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@KC23, Too Funny!!!
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:05 am
@KC23, Bag and glue. Much cheaper addiction
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Of the “pass, receive, shoot, skate” the Kings are pretty good at skating. The rest need work.
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Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
@bbb7, They suck at skating!! Thats why they are in the situation they are in.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
@Kissmyblarneystones, The skating and Passing are the top 2. The receive and shoot need the most work as the bottom two. Look at Richards that was an awesome pass to Nolan. Of course Nolan and King have the shooting down and Lokti has the use of body down.
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Kissmyblarneystones Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
@Jeff_R, Well, its a fair point you make. However, I’ve learned that great skaters will alway draw an extra man, which in turn will leave a man open. And if you havent any skaters, as we do not, (except for Lokti and Gagne) you put big bodies in front of the net as an alternative. This team cant skate to the caliber they needs to and I believe DS knoes it, which is why he sent for the youngins. He just waited long enough to allow DL to see the light before getting the Green Light to promote them
McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
@bbb7, Hell, work on all of em, we suck lately. I hate seeing guys pass like old women worst; not getting the puck across with authority like they’re afraid of tearing the blade tape is annoying as all get out.
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in an espn article about sutter’s quote this morning about penner, they also quoted craig mactavish from a couple years ago on penner… i hadn’t seen the quote before… funny, but not in a HA HA kind of way:
“When we signed Dustin we thought he’d be a top two-line player,” MacTavish told the Edmonton Journal at the time. “We thought the contract ($4.25 million average for five years) was a starting point for him but he views it as a finish line. I can’t watch it, certainly not for another 2½ years.”
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Oscar Moller's Beard Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
@ddc, I’m guessing DL did not read this before trading for him.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
@ddc, i pointed that out last year when they traded for penner. dl only trades for damaged goods. his track record is not so good on trades and free agent signings. or draft picks for that matter. need new gm.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
@ddc, i pointed that out last year when they traded for penner. dl only trades for damaged goods. his track record is not so good on trades and free agent signings. or draft picks for that matter. need new gm.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
@yetiman_oc, Nice of you to say it twice
. Anyway Deans track record only lacks in the UFA category. Although most of the reasons for that are not under his control. As for trades he has pretty much done a good job with that. Now about Penner. His problems stem mostly from not working hard, not using his big body and being inconsistent. Regardless of all that he has scored 29, 23, 17, 32 and 23 goals the last 5 years. There was no reason to believe that he would only have 5 goals now this season. Sorry but blaming this trade on DL is a crock. He mad the trade that would help us out scoring wise. Who knew Penner would end up having the season he has. I don’t care what all the scouts and ex coaches of his said. Even with all there bad comments about Penner he still has averaged over 20+ goals. Nobody could of ever envisioned him scoring as low as he has. It has turned out a bust, but the trade itself was a good one.
As for damaged good in trades whom exactly are you talking about Penner? He has only missed a couple of games. Justin Williams? He has played in all games this season and his injuries as a Kings has been freak ones. Not sure who else you are talking about.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
@Jeff_R, Oh Gagne. That was a risk, but a risk worth taking as the thought of him playing with Richards and getting close to the 40 goals he scored a few years ago was too good to pass up, after they lost out on Brad Richards. Plus who else was there to choose from.
Off topic, but I cant resist…
Loktionov: 2 goals on ZERO SHOTS.
I guess that WAYNE GRETZKY guy (whoever that is) didnt know what he was talking about when he said:
“You miss 100% of the shots you never takde.”
LOL
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@Lead Feet, That is why a lot of people have been saying for Penner to stand in front of the Goalie during the PP, or also Matt Greene. Just how many goals would we have this season had we done that.
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ddc Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@Jeff_R,
agreed… t holmstrom made a great career out of doing just that, while still not being the most gifted player…
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Gary Livingston Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
@ddc,
He’s gifted at that though. The best.
KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:41 am
@Lead Feet, I watched that Dallas game again. Loktionov did not have a good game. His back checking needs a lot of work. Getting a lot better on the side boards in the offensive zone, but defensely he is weak.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:48 am
@KC23, I think DS had a different view. I saw Lokti take the puck right off of Ribeiro’s stick right in front of the net which prevented a primo scoring chance for a very dangerous player. I didn’t notice any obvious failures on the back check. Lokti usually hustles getting back. He’s getting better at using his feet, stick and leverage in checking, intend of trying to just body up on guys TM style where he gets over powered.
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:01 am
@Kenny44, I can’t comment on that play or that game, for that matter, but Lokti is cut right out of the Russian stick-check cloth. It’s an uncanny knack that I remember Fro being really good at as well as Datsyuk and others… I really enjoy watching him do it to unsuspecting Dmen who had just finished muscling him off the puck only to take two strides and have their sticks lifted and the puck too, by AL… but he still needs to eat his spinach.
I’m excited but also scared to ramp up. We’ve seen the Kovi and then B.Richards fiasco’s and to add to it, when we all thought we got what we wanted with Penner we saw how that panned out. Not to say we’re cursed or anything but it just sucks getting our hopes up. Would I like Rick Nash? Hell yes! way more than Carter but I think I need to hold myself back from getting too excited for either one.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@TheRussianKing, The difference between Kovy, BRichards and Nash is Nash is available by trade and doesn’t really have a choice in where he goes. He has given a list of teams and I guess he has final say, but I doubt he would turn down one of the teams on his list. As for Kovy he wanted 100 million and Kings said Nyet and he said I am a Devil. Brad wanted to be close to home. So Brad and Kovy had choices where Nash has some choice, but not not total.
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Oscar Moller's Beard Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
@Jeff_R, Actually Nash does have a choice as he has a no-trade clause.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard, Yes but he doesn’t have total control. He gave a list of certain teams but after that he doesn’t have control, unless he changes his mind. I cant imagine him doing that though, as he seems like a stand up guy.
Canadian King Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
@Jeff_R, Ya he has a choice, he has the final say where he ends up due to his full no trade clause. The good news is he has submitted a SHORT list of teams he would accept a trade to and LA is one of the top teams, according to Dreger at TSN.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
@Canadian King, He gave a list of teams but he isn’t exactly making the deal like he would be as a UFA. It is Howson finding the best deal and Nash decides whether to say yes or not, which he probably will because that team is on the list. I am sure Howson will go to all the teams on the list and have them make offers. Then Howson will choose which one he likes the best and Nash will ok it. Howson could come back and say no deal was good enough and decide not to trade him. However I think he will be traded before next season starts whether it is by the deadline or offseason remains to be seen.
KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:43 am
@Jeff_R, Nash has a no trade clause. He runs the show regarding his trade. Both the team and him have equal veto power on any trade.
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If you consider the perspective that DL’s arse is on the line, then a trade for Nash sounds very possible.
You watch, DL will make a move. Whether it is a good move, for Nash or someone else, thats another story.
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How do you know when there’s a new trade rumor about the Kings? When all of the posts of the day have over 100 comments a piece. You guys must have had some fun today talking about all the trade scenarios involving Rich Nash.
Personally I can’t see him coming to the Kings. His cap hit alone would make it nearly impossible to fit under our cap unless DD, AK, MR, or JQ is traded for him. IF we traded for Nash, then in 2 years the Kings would likely have 34 million dollars of cap hit invested in 5 players. I don’t see how you make that work.
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seanster48 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
@CB14, i would say that the four mentioned would be untouchable!!!
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CB14 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@seanster48, I agree, that’s why I don’t think it will happen.
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xeropoint Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@CB14, But… The time is now. Right? No seriously, I really don’t know. Is it now?
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CB14 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@xeropoint, I don’t think so.
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xeropoint Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
@CB14, Neither do I, although as some have mentioned, the clock may very well be ticking for a certain unnamed GM of a certain unnamed hockey team to make a big splash.
CB14 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
@xeropoint, That’s what i’m worried about. People sometimes do stupid things when the pressures on.
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Mikey Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
@CB14, I say we trade DD regardless of getting Nash. I don’t want to be the one who says “told ya so” when JQ asks for too much money (I would trade and sell everyone for Quick). JQ is the only reason why we’re still standing.
Nash shouldn’t be the focus for our lack of scoring.
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CB14 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@Mikey, I agree with your last sentence, Nash won’t be our savior.
Regarding JQ, I don’t think he’ll ask for too much money. I think he’ll ask for the same as Pekka Rinne, 7 years 49 million total, which is a fair asking price IMO. That’s a lot, but I think he’s worth it.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
@Mikey, If we get Nash then Quick won’t be going anywhere or will Doughty. trading Doughty would be a huge mistake. You do not trade a once in a generation talent like Doughty and I can’t believe anybody would even consider it. Yes he isn’t playing up to his potential right now, but a lot of that is due to his experience and age. 99% of defenseman take a few years or so before they come into there own.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
@CB14, If you are basing the Kings not going after Nash on Salary Cap alone, then why is it that they went after Kovy, BRichards and this offseason will go after Parise (if Nash doesn’t come).) Believe me DL and Jeff Solomon have planned for all scenarios when building the team and the Salary Cap implications. Getting Nash will not upset our Salary Cap anymore then getting Parise will. We have over 8 million coming off the books after this season. Plus there is Long Term insurance on Gagne if they decide to go that route.
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xeropoint Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@Jeff_R, The Kings’ projected CAP space remaining this year could be an issue. Unless 5.3M (roughly) goes back the other way it won’t work.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
@xeropoint, Penner will be gone as would jack johnson and there is Gagne’s Long term insurance that they can take in account, if he doesn’t play.
CB14 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@Jeff_R, Next year isn’t the issue because JQ is already signed for next year at 1.825. The problem is in 2 years when he’s due to recieve a big raise.
I don’t think DL previously thought that JQ would demand as much of a cap hit as he will because although he has been good in previous years, this year he’s been great. I also think DL wasn’t expecting Pekka Rinne to get such a big contract, both in length and cap hit.
Regarding going after Kovi and B.Richards as opposed to getting Nash, Nash’s cap hit is 7.8, the Kings offered Kovi a cap hit of around 5.25, and Brad Richards a cap hit of 6.5. That extra 1.3 might not seem like much, but it’s the difference between having a Brad Richardson, or a Michal Handzus.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
@CB14, Like I said DL and Jeff Soloman have planned for all contingencies. Yes they may have to deviate a little. The fact is if they haven’t planned for such a trade or signing for as much as Nash or Parise will command, plus Quick then they shouldn’t be GN. Why do you think it took so long to get Drew done? Salary Cap will not be a problem, as it most likely will keep going up. If by chance it does go down, then there are contingencies for that. The point being is that DL is going hard after Nash and if that doesn’t work, then he will go after Parise. One of them will hopefully be a King and both will be getting over 7 million salary cap. Pittsburgh hasn’t had a whole lot of trouble paying there top 5 guys a lot. Malkin and Crosby get 8.7 cap. Fluery and Paul martin have 5 million cap. Stahl and Michalek have 4 million. That 6 guys making 35.5 million. They are doing just fine….
purple and gold Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
@CB14, penguins have 31 million with 5 guys currently, its not hat much of a stretch if we have some minor guys that can fill some veteran roles soon.
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CB14 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
@purple and gold, Yes, but the Penguins also have an all star d-man making 3.5 million for the next 3 years. Letang has been better than Doughty this year yet he takes up 2.5 million less of cap room. That helps their cap situation immensely. Outside of JQ this year and next year, the Kings don’t have anyone who is underpaid. That 3 million might not seem like much but it’s the difference between the Penguins having Jordan Stall as their 3rd line center, and the Kings having Andrei Loktionov as their’s.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
@CB14, The Penguins have 13 million tied into 3 defenseman and that doesn’t include Letang. As far as Letang being better then Doughty this year that is a matter of opinion. Does Letang play upwards of 26 minutes a night against the top forward lines on the other opponents? Plus how can you compare them, when Letang has only played in 33 games? Jordan is a UFA after next season. Let’s see if he stays in Pittsburgh then, plus he seems to get hurt and miss a lot of games each year. Lokti is basically still a rookie as he hasn’t truly played a full season.
variable Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
@CB14,
+1000…
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Kings x Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
@CB14, If penner and JJ are in that deal then with stoll falling off there is room for JQ
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:46 am
@CB14, The combination of JJ, Bernier and dumping Penner would do it. Putting Gagne on extended IR lets us go over the cap for the rest of the season as well. Very do-able.
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For somebody that can work the numbers:
If we traded for Nash… given how much $$$ we’d give up for him, how much $$$ do we have to re-sign Quick?
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xeropoint Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard, Impossible to say. Who’s going the other way? This season wouldn’t fit if major salary isn’t going back to Colombus. Take a looke here, if you want an idea:
http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=17
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DEH Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard, that’s what Bernier is for..lol
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard, One thing you need to consider is that there will be a new CBA come Next season. We have no idea how that is going to turn out. The only reference point we have is Pekka Rinne who signed a 7 million a year cap that starts next season. So think about that and the fact that Quick is better, especially if he gets the Kings past the first round.
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CB14 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
@Jeff_R, The first line you wrote is what worries me the most. The players held out all year last time and ended up with a worse deal than they were originally offered, the owners know that and will no doubt use it to their advantage in these negotiations. I don’t see the cap going up next year.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
@CB14, The players and the NHL know that any thought of a strike is going to be bad after what happened the last time and with what almost did with football/basketball. Both the players and NHL will make sure that they work things out. I don’t know how it is going to affect the Salary Cap. We will find out as soon as they have a new CBA signed sealed and delivered.
KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:48 am
@Jeff_R, From what I read the cap is expected to go up no more than about 5 mil.
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art Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard,
Scuderi and Gagne are probably done with the Kings after next season, which frees up $6.9mil cap hit to pay Quick.
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@TheRussianKing, Doesn’t Nash have a “no trade” clause?
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
@TripleNickel, Yes, but he apparently has agreed to wave the NTC for a few teams.
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TripleNickel Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@KC23, Thanks for the info. It’d be nice to know of the Kings were one of the few teams.
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@TripleNickel, King’s name has always been used in pretty much everyone’s speculation, including credible media sources. We have the assets that Columbus is looking for. Most expect JJ and Bernier to be included in the deal, but there would likely be more that we would be giving up.
Canadian King Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
@TripleNickel, TSN is reporting that the Kings are not only on his list but high up on it, they are speculating about 5 or 6 teams.
Michael_DD8 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
@TripleNickel,
Johnson , Bernier and a 1st for Nash, i would do it. Nash with Kopitar is honestly my dream. We can afford to lose JJ ( only guy that would affect our starting roster) because of the fact i think VV can step in and do the same job. As for Bernier, we arent going to lose anything well notice, but we have to then get a backup (Maybe sanford can be included) to have a guy we can look to if we Quick cant be in. Nash adds so much to the table, and having the names ‘Nash , Kopitar , Richards , Doughty , Brown , Quick ‘ we should have the power to make a splash, and wont have many excuses…
I put one of Penners cards up on ebay and someone actually bid on it, I think his ID was Howe-son@CBJ. Hmmmmmm
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It is kind of nice,, Its Tuesday and we played Sunday and do not play till Thursday.. Oh Nashville just scored!!!! Happy Valentines Day too all!!!!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
@lakingbob(chi), Nashville is playing Chicago. We want Nashville to win!!!!!
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anaheimbob Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
@Jeff_R,
Why, have we given up on the number 5 spot? I think it would be better if Chicago wins and tightens up the conference a bit.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
@anaheimbob, you have to make it to #6 before #5. Plus there is more of a chance of us passing SJ then Nashville and if we do that, then we don’t have to worry about them.
Deke'r Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
@anaheimbob, …..agreed….can’t depend on catching Sharts as they still have 3 games in hand….so keep it tight….
Remember when every news and rumor source out there said Kovalchuk to the Kings was a done deal? I do.
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:52 am
@PP Anybody?, Yeah, but I think Kolvabuck’s agent was pulling some strings on those rumors. Kolvabucks and his agent played DL like a cheap violin in getting all he could from NJ.
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What if this is a kind of move Bob Murray made for the Sucks? Threatning their best players to trade obviously get them going. It’s like a lady’s showing her underwear but has no intention to have sex with you.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
@goldielocks, The Sucks don’t have a Goalie though to trade. The Kings are perfect in every way as a trade partner for Nash.
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Since the Kings aren’t playing tonight, take your wife/girlfriend/mistress to dinner…. Tell her that you love her more than the Kings. (She doesn’t know the Kings schedule.)
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@Tony in Denver, Will you be watching Nash on Gamecenter while at dinner with your Wife/Girlfriend?
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Deke'r Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
@Tony in Denver, …..unfortunately mine does…..
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FiG17 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
@Tony in Denver,
Hey, some of us would rather her guy plan Valentines Day around Kings games… just saying. lol
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
@Tony in Denver, My wife would know somethign is up. Not because she is a big fan, but her first question would be – No game tonight?
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Trade brown for Nash!!!!
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
@Alex, it’ll take more than that, but it’s a start.
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D’You see those idiots in Minnesota are doing the wave while the game is going on against the Ducks? They don’t get out much evidently.
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i don’t know what to even say at this point…
i’m speechless – i have no speech…(!)
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No way! Perrone used his glove to push the puck in!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
@goldielocks, You can just see Columbus fans telling themselves NOT AGAIN.
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goldielocks Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
@Jeff_R,
Diego Maradona scored the goal with his hand and called “God hand”. But Perrone is no Maradona.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
@goldielocks, It is a good thing it didn’t happen to the Kings. Toronto probably would of called it a goal. They knew not to tick Columbus off after what happened against us.
Well Columbus’s game is over. Announcement to follow?
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Dallas going down in Detroit. Good news for us.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
@KC23, And Chicago is losing to Nashville.
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It’s going to be a long couple of weeks until the trade deadline. I can’t wait until it’s over so all the speculation will go away until the off season anyway. I would love to see Nash in a Kings uniform but there will be quite a few other suitors for his services too. If DL pulls this one off without selling the farm, I for one will be impressed. Looking forward to the Yotes game Thursday. I will be there. Let’s see if we can play some inspired hockey for the 1st home game after our just concluded road trip
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Quick just lost the lead in shutouts!
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
@MOSH, yep and detroit just made a home record
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Steve W Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
@MOSH, Didn’t he share the lead with Lundquist?
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
@Steve W, he did at 6
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I spent all day at work and in class oblivious to all the rumors. I wish I still was. lol
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rick Nash = Richards with the Kings …30 something points….
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First the Kings overpaid to get Richards. Richards is a great player and leader but we gave up the #1 non-NHL player, a heart and soul type 2nd line player & a high draft pick. And we got a very good two way center and team leader who stats the last three years are very similar to Nash
Yes Richards played on a better team and had more talent. Nash plays on a bad team I get that but expecting him to get 50 goals just because he gets to play with Kopitar is not a given.
Schenn is and will become the player the Kings and the Flyers expected him to become. Wayne will be a staedy 25-35 goals, 100 plus PIM and very great work ethic player.
To give JJ, a top line forward, one of if not the best non starting qoalie prospect, your #1 future scoring propesct in Tyler Toffoli and a high pick for one player who has never scored 50 goals is more than what anyone would have offered for the player from NJ who’s name I will not say (Russian) not the Canadian one who might become available and was a more highly regarded player.
I like Nash and want him but not at any cost. I am tired of DL over paying. Not this time please.
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
@Mark1967, sorry but I disagree on the Mike Richards trade. The Kings gave up just what they should have for a player of Richards’ caliber. The only problem for the Kings this year is that Richards has not had the type of player(s) he needs to excel at the type of game he plays. Besides that trade was NOT made just for his season, but for the next 3-5 seasons. I don’t agree with your assessment of Simmonds, he might be a consistent 20 goal scorer at best. Schenn should be good, but Richards was acquired to make the Kings a Cup contender now. Schenn is probably 3 years away from sing that type of player.
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Canadian King Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
@Shotongoal, I agree Schenn hasn’t proven nothing yet and his ceiling is to turn out like a Richards type player at best. Also I am hearing that Nash is considering LA because of Richards. Also I am not convinced IF he lands here that he will play with Kopi anyways. At the 2010 Olympics Canadas best and most consistent line all tournament was Nash, Richards and Toews so maybe they reunite Nash with Richards as they already have proven chemistry together.
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
@Canadian King, I would have absolutely no problem with him playing with Richards. They would tear it up with Richards’ playmaking abilities and Nash’s finishing touch. I guess the question would be who would play LW? Wouldn’t mind seeing KFC have a go at it with those two!
All this talk about Nash!! Let it happen first!! Jeez people we have a big game against a very good Coyotes club and all people can talk about is Nash. We have got to start playing better and get on some sort of streak or we will be watching are second favorite teams in the playoffs. Coyotes played a very good game against the Canucks yesterday. We have had some rest so we should be ready. Of course there is no home ice advantage when it comes to our Kings. We suck at home. Maybe it’s the crowd or that stuipd sounding Cartman, but we need to win our home games. I’ll be coming out during spring break to watch our Kings play them hated Sharks. Hopefully we will be fighting for the divsion lead at that time. This is the time when the winners start to pull away from the pack. I do feel that we are right on the edge of turning this season around. These two young kids have given me and many of you hope. Yes I sais it… HOPE! There is a light at the end of this tunnel trust me. As long as we keep playing tight “D” our offense will get it together.
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Deadendcruiser Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake, I seriously hate that stupid Cartman clip……LAME!
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Tyfighter77 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake, Death to the Cartman sample. PLEASE!
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For those of you who listen to KLOS, Luc Robitaille will be on Mark and Brian tomorrow morning. I didn’t catch what time but I would guess it would be after 8 am.
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:57 am
@PaulHB, Ah, going to talk about the Nash trade and what he’ll mean to the Kings.
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can someone please tell me were I can see all these trade rumors, please? NOT HOKEY BUZZ.com
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PK Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@king lopez, check the mother ship’s website. it was on the front page
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Canadian King Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
@king lopez, TSn is reporting these rumours
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We just moved up to 6th in the conference without even playing.
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variable Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
@KC23,
and that’s the best REAL news of the day…:)
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
@KC23, We are kinda still behind Chicago, as they have 2 more wins.
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OMG….. that’s it. Fed up!! Enough is enough. Hawks lose eighth straight tonight. What a lot of bollocks. Let’s trade Duncan Keith and Kane to ….. I don’t know. How about the Kings? Yeah, the Kings. They’re loaded with dmen. We can get someone. Not sure who, but someone, and then Penner and Stoll.
Is this what happens when there isn’t anything left to write about? Evidently so.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
@number 6, Wasn’t that Chicago’s 9th straight loss?
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variable Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
@Jeff_R,
yep…number 9…number 9…
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Belexes Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
@variable,
Reference to the Beatles was clutch.
DesertKing Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
@number 6,
Uh, yes, yes it is.
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
@number 6, What kind of Captain lets his team become losers? Chicago should totally trade Toews to the Kings for 2 lattes’ and a bag of used pucks.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
@Dominick, Wow I am glad we have Brown. He hasn’t Captained our way to 9 straight losses.
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Wow, Hawks coming apart at the seams. Good news for us to be sure.
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OK if we are getting all trade rumory here, I have to say I was listening to FSW and heard they are trading Patrick O’Neil for Ms Turkey.
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Kings x Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
@Mars, It’s a three way trade for heidi and Brian hayward
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DesertKing Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:22 am
@Kings x,
The mentioning of “three way” with the names mentioned above is very disturbing when placed in certain contexts.
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can someone please tell me were I can see all these trade rumors, please?
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
@king lopez, Here is one credible source. http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/ check out the McKienze trade speak.
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Mars Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
@KC23, Thanks KC
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king lopez Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
@KC23, thank you
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Shouldn’t we be practicing more than an hour? I would have done 2 and spent 1 hour on shooting alone.
Anyone have a practice schedule, I really would love to go see that one day.
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wavesinair Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:33 am
@Mars,
No schedule. Usually at 10 or 11. An hour is plenty.
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Could tonight’s games have turned out any better? Dallas, Minnesota, Chicago and St. Louis all lose with no 3-point games. And signing Nash today too, wow!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
@McCheese, Yes all those teams losing were awesome, but signing Nash?
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Steve W Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
@McCheese, Wouldn’t Nash want to go to NASHville?
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
@McCheese, Actually, not to be a kill joy, but it could of been better had Calgary lost to the worthless Leafs.
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big truths coming up over the next two weeks, can we secure a playoff spot with all the 4 point games coming up??
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can you imagine soon………
-Brown, Kopitar, Nash
-King, Richards, Nolan
-Clifford, Stoll, Williams
-Penner, Fraser, Lewis
…..gone will be Bernier, Johnson, 2nd round pick.
Odd men out are Hunter on waivers, off to Manchester, Richardson, Westgarth in Press Box.
Penner will be gone at the end of the 2012 season, and Stoll will drop down to 4th line if he stays in 2012/13.
We need two wingers of rather high quality, and one more attacking D man along with a good back up,
someone Quicker doesn’t worry about playing in front of all the time.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
@Harty, well those line be great…But i made a back up line just in case
If ever Gagne gets healthy again
I can see a line like this
Brown – Kopi – Nash
Gagne – Richards – Williams
Penner – Stoll – Richardson
Clifford – Fraser – Lewis
Scuderi – Doughty
Mitchell – Voynov
Martinez – Greene
Quick
Zackoff or Jonas Which dont believe one of them or both not ready for the pros..So maybe get a decent Backup goalie
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Getting sleepy … I want to hear more realistic rumor, please?
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GOON
Has anyone else seen the trailer? How bout that last quote! Sutter should be proud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWYhkViWj98
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
@Tyfighter77, I gave the proper response on Quisps site! I have a feeling that quote is going to become more endearing to Kingsfans as time moves on.
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Kings x Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
@Dominick, Gotta love the last line of the trailer. I think I might even go to the theater for this one
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wavesinair Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:39 am
@Kings x,
Theater? They showed the whole damn movie in the trailer. Hate that
Kenny44 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:25 am
@Tyfighter77,
Ah yes, Hollywood. This wiil certainly help LA’s image even more with the NHL.
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Not sure if anybody else is here now but I have a question. You know I understand that our payroll has gone up and it costs a lot to have and get the players that we have gotten and I understand raising ticket prices and all, including those for Season Seats. What I don’t understand is why is it that Season Seats have gone up as much as it has, for some of us. This season I paid $22.50 a game per seat and I have 2 seats. I sit in Section 328 Row 2 seats 1&2. How is it when this team has never won a Cup and hasn’t even gotten out of the first round in over 10 years, decides to jack up my price from the 22.50 a seat to 35.00 per seat. Instead of paying just over $1900 for my two seats it is now over $3000. To top it off if you don’t renew by March 24th they go up to $39.50. Now I know we are one of the lowest ticket prices in the league, but how do you jack prices up that much when you can’t even guarantee that you are going to make the playoffs? I really don’t understand raising the prices up that much. They better be bringing in Parise and Nash for that.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
@Jeff_R, Not to mention they don’t even mention anything in terms of paying the amount I will have paid up until October, which I pay the 10 month plan, if there is a strike/lockout.
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King Charles of Salt Lake Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 5:47 am
@Jeff_R, They are going to make it so only the top 1% will be able to go see games live. This is why I live in Salt Lake and pay 179.00 for Center Ice. The cost of living in LA is just way to high. I know Utah is boring {not really} and we have the M—mans. And Echl Hockey. I do try to catch 1-2 games a year at Staples. I love going alone and just watching NHL hockey. This March hopefully a couple of you guys will want to meet up before the Sharks game. I looked and a ticket down low is 125.00. I know it’s a lot of money, but It’s all entertainment right.
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number 6 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:19 am
@King Charles of Salt Lake,
A lot of money. Here is part of what someone said in the Times this morning in response to Helene Elliott’s article about the raise in ticket prices: ‘Raising ticket prices after the offensive ineptitude that has been on display this entire season… makes so little sense from any sane viewpoint that the idea could only spring from the genius hockey minds at AEG.’
But as long as DL adheres to a super conservative philosophy I wouldn’t be expecting to see a super exciting high scoring team as long as he’s the GM, because he’s made it clear that that isn’t his approach to hockey.
Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:25 am
@number 6, I wouldn’t expect to see a “super exciting high scoring team” but it would be nice to see a team that does better than .500 at home. I’m not asking for 21 straight or anything, but 3-5 in a row at home does not seem like too much to ask for.
I too try to make it out to 10-15 games a year, but next year I might have to just watch from home, too… sucks but such is life.
PurpleBlacknGold Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:47 am
@King Charles of Salt Lake, I really enjoy most of your posts… But I think you should be careful about your not-so-well hidden comments about the “religion” usually associated with Utah. First, it has nothing to do with hockey. Second, it’s not like there aren’t people even on this blog who could be offended. Stick to bein positive about hockey my friend…
Kings x Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
@Jeff_R, Win now mentality. The kings are a write off for all the commercial real estate development PA has made boo koo bucks on.
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:09 am
@Jeff_R, I haven’t been to a game this year, and wish I could afford season tickets. But from the business standpoint, they are selling out games left and right. It would be bad business NOT to raise the prices.
It pains me to say that, but it is what it is.
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LA_1968 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:41 am
@Jeff_R, It’s supply and demand. They are selling out almost all the games. They will raise the prices until the total revenue from ticket sales falls. If they sell 720,000 tickets this year for a total of $60 Million, then they raise ticket prices by 10% and they increase the total revenue over $63 Million(total revenue increases only 5%) they’ll be happy even if they sell less tickets. If they raise the price too high, or put a bad product on the ice, then the sales/revenue will drop.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 10:39 am
@Jeff_R,
For many reasons other than the price of the tickets I only hit Staples a couple times a year, just for an outing. I enjoy the games much more in my Kings Hockey War Room with the company of Jim Fox and Bob Miller. However, I catch plenty of the Kings live at the Toyota Sports Center in the preseason and practices during the regular season. Great atmosphere, good food, easy parking, and an up close look at the players you just don’t get at Staples. If you want to really get to know the team, that’s the place to do it, IMO.
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Kings battling closest pursuers… strange imagery.
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23 11 61
74 10 14
13 48 71
15 24 22
33 8
2 26
27 7
32
acquired backup
Assuming Penner and Stoll are gone for cap reasons
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:01 am
@kingsfanInsano, Stoll won’t be gone imho. People forget we can go over the cap if we put Gagne on extended IR.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:55 am
@KC23,
Is there any prognosis on Gagne and Stoll? I had all but written off Gagne but now he’s skating and shooting with the team. If everyone is healthy and we make an acquisition the lineup could get pretty confusing. There will be some tough decisions to make.
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Do we really want a guy who’s -22 is the worst on the team?
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:48 am
@Munchrat, From 2005 to last year Nash is a plus 10 player on a terrible team. Through last year Nash has averaged over 33 goals and 32 assists a year.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:02 am
@Munchrat, I don’t put a lot of stock in the plus/minus of a great player on a really bad team. It just means he’s on the ice a lot against the opposing team’s best lines. In this case, you might even see a -22 as a good thing.
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LA_1968 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:00 am
@Munchrat, I’d take any player from Team Canada’s Olympic team. Add Nash to DD and MR and we’d have 3 of 21 of them. Let the other 29 teams in the NHL dibby up the other 18 guys.
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:25 am
@Munchrat, if his name is Rick Nash then, Yes good God YES!
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Munchrat Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:18 am
@Munchrat, I guess it’s unanimous!
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Stuart Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:22 am
@Munchrat, LOL the Kingdom has spoken
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These next 3 games are crazy important. Virtually playoff games. Calgary is especially dangerous. Calgary was my dark horse team at the beginning of the season.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:37 am
@KC23,
You’re so right. Huge games! Calgary is dangerous and this may sound silly, but keep an eye on the Ducks too! They are rolling and they know what it takes to make a run at the playoffs. Remember last year?
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 7:51 am
@40YearKingsFan, Ducks won’t happen. Too many teams in front of them and they need to rebuild. Calgary looks like they very well could over take the Kings. I don’t think Phoenix will though. I think Chicago misses the playoffs.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:09 am
@KC23,
Sounds good to me. I don’t want the Ducks around and I don’t want them in a position to hurt our playoff chances becauseif they can, they usually do. Last year was a train wreck.
anonandonanon Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 8:34 am
@KC23, Best time of the year. Some of this will hinge on luck. But, first and foremost, it hinges on guts. The guts to trust your teamates and dig down as deep as they do. Pull up your socks boys it could get bumpy. GKG
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LA_1968 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:09 am
@KC23, Yeah, Calgary smoked Toronto last night. Looks like they’re gelling with Camellari now.
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vplaza Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:06 am
@KC23,
Let’s face it, any team is dangerous right now against the Kings. If they can score two goals, they stand a great chance of getting points from the Kings.
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They showed a picture of Nash on NHL Live last night. Kinda looks like Penner (with teeth), hmmmmmm.
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I know it’s Nashmania time, but I still hold hope DL quietly worked the Sutter connection to get Iginla, instead of Nash.
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King-C Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:01 am
@Gustavo, We ain’t getting crap. Remember DL’s track record. Specially after the Penner signing last year. Lets focus on what we have and make the best of it. I think with our recent youth movement and the new found energy we should be fine. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see Nash here but be realistic man!
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goldielocks Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:09 am
@Gustavo,
Iginla stated he wants to stay with F-lames. As for Nush, I don’t know what makes everyone think he wants to come to LA. Ultimately, it will come down to his decision, and if I’m in his position, I would choose a legitimate cup contender like the Rangers.
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goldielocks Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:11 am
@goldielocks, Nash, sorry. Still sleepy …
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Gustavo Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 9:39 am
@goldielocks,
Nash said a while back he does not enjoy the western travel. So NY it is for him.
As for Iginla, let’s see how far out of playoff position Calgary is right before the deadline before management tells Iggy something like:
“Jerome, you’ve done as much as you can do for this organization. your # is going to be retired here. Go get a ring with LA, then come home to coach or manage this team when you retire”
Do what Luc did, Iggy. Look how much everyone loves him in LA.
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vplaza Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 11:07 am
@goldielocks,
Sad, but true. If it was about winning now, why on earth would he waive his NMC to go to the Kings.
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Not meaning to hijack the thread. Rich, are you going to do a story about the Kings alienation of almost the entire fan base with the ticket pricing and restructuring. My seats went up last yesr 20% and they are raising them another 28%. It made the front page of the LA Times sports section today with a story by Helene. I have had seats since 1984 and will not be renewing, and I know at least 5 other accounts holders that not renewing.
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Rich Hammond Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Respectfully, I think you’re going a bit overboard by talking about an “alienation of almost the entire fan base,” don’t you think? The real story will be what happens next season. Does attendance drop because of price increases? The Times did a nice job with the story today. Season-ticket holders are obviously aware of the increase, and it’s not relevant to those who don’t have season tickets. What else is there to say? The Kings have made their choice on ticket prices and it’s not going to change. You’re well within your right not to renew.
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