It’s been well-chronicled that Jordan Nolan — who played his first two NHL games over the weekend and scored his first goal — is the son of former NHL player and coach Ted Nolan. But Dwight King, who was called up along with Nolan and also scored his first NHL goal Sunday, also has an NHL family tie, as his older brother D.J. has played parts of the last six seasons with the St. Louis Blues and Washington Capitals. D.J. King is now playing for the AHL’s Hershey Bears, but Dwight King said the brothers chatted and compared notes about how to get to the NHL and, more importantly, how to stay there.
KING: “He’s very supportive, obviously. He knows how I play and he knows what I can do to be effective. He basically just emphasizes going out there and working hard every shift. He knows this is an opportunity for me, and it’s not going to come around every day, so just continue to focus on every chance I get. That’s pretty much his advice.’’
The King brothers also went head-to-head in the AHL last month, when Dwight’s Manchester Monarchs beat D.J.’s Hershey Bears twice in a two-game series.
KING: “It was only the second time we’ve ever played against each other, so it was definitely fun. Our parents came up, and sister came up, to watch. It was a great memory.’’
As for the Nolans, Jordan’s mother and brother were able to attend his NHL debut on Long Island, and Ted Nolan might be headed to town as well. Ted Nolan is the head coach of Latvia’s national team, but Jordan Nolan said his dad is headed back to Canada and might come to the West Coast to watch the Kings. Jordan Nolan said he hadn’t had time for any in-depth feedback from his dad yet…
NOLAN: “Not yet. He has watched a few games. He’s just trying to make me feel good about myself, saying I worked hard out there, and just to keep it going.’’
Coincidentally, Nolan’s debut came against the New York Islanders, the team his dad coached for two seasons.
NOLAN: “I don’t know if it was special. It was a pretty cool experience, knowing that my dad coached there. So I’m a little familiar with that rink. I was happy to play anywhere.’’
A W E S O M E – G U Y S………..keep it going
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KingsJunky Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
@Harty, More I hear from these two the more I root for em! Can really see the energy they provide. PENNER should take some notes. Loved DS comment about work to Penner, so glad it is the last year on that deal
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matty muls Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
@KingsJunky,
penner would take notes using syrup to write on pancakes, then eat said pancakes! lol
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get after it boys!!!
GKG
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If by some miracle these guys are the real deal, it will go very very far in fixing whats wrong with our team. Big if though. Consistency is tough in the NHL even for vets.
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Dard Reply:
July 4th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
@KC23, We’re they the real deal?
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Work hard, play hard and have fun. Welcome, we needed you two men.
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Thursday can’t come any sooner, I will be staying up to watch it EST. Keep the youth movement alive boys !!
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what blogs do you guys follow for up to the minute trade rumors?
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DanD Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
@MickSorley, Go take a look at hockeybuss.com I hear this Eklund guy is quite legitimate and has all kinds of fabulous sources.
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Jefreyryan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
@DanD, Its a trap!
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JFont Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@DanD, haha that’s funny
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goldielocks Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@MickSorley,
lakingsinsider.com
Eklund? Pffff …
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wavesinair Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
@MickSorley,
I ask my dog. He’s right about as often as any of those sites.
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McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
@MickSorley, we can make a few up to keep ya going if accuracy isn’t an issue!
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mrbob25 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
@MickSorley,
I don’t think Rich wants me to.
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Gary Livingston Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
@MickSorley,
On twitter follow:
@DarrenDreger
@frozenroyalty
@TheFourthPeriod
@DennisTFP
@TSNBobMcKenzie
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
@Gary Livingston,
Add:
@helenenothelen
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I love that these guys were called up. It seemed like a legit slap in the face to some of the players who seem to coast up and down the ice. Especially those who wing Richards.
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If nothing else comes from the Rookies being called up and scoring goals. I hope it at least lights a fire under some of the non-performers behinds and send a message that everyone is replaceable in the end.
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I just heard we’re getting Nash and Carter for Bernier, Stoll, Penner, and Hunter! Problem is my source is Wishful Thinkin.
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Jay GoLAKings Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
@McSorleyfan, listen to TSN Radio right now
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Jay GoLAKings Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
@Jay GoLAKings, Talking players to trade for Nash… Bernier, JMFJ, Voynov
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
@McSorleyfan, Wouldn’t even get that for Nash let alone both of them. That trade that Eklund reported would be to get Carter only. Nash would take a lot more and really not a couple of scrubs.
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McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
@Jeff_R, I was simply trying to entertain MickSorley without getting his guts in a twist like Eklund. Hence I quoted my source, which is more than Eklund can do! Funny stuff tho. I keep reading on S&S that Dewey should be on the trade block, rather than Jack Johnson, because Johnson is more “mature” and has fewer penalty minutes, as well as being slightly larger in stature. It cracks me up; let’s match those +- numbers. Doughty is far more willing and able to put the team on his back at some point and carry them.
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
@McSorleyfan, I think that was Eklunds “league source” as well. Funny how he started off his post right away with a disclaimer.
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gene Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
@McSorleyfan,Now that is funy.
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” I was happy to play anywhere” … And that’s the difference. Heads up Mr. Penner.
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Weasel Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
@Hockey & Rocky,
There’s no evidence of his unwillingness to play here. In fact there is no evidence that he has an attitude problem of any type. He just seems really out of place in this system. Even though he is huge he plays such a finesse game.
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rontheking Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@Weasel,
Yes he is a big guy who plays like an average pro little guy–what is the point of having a big body if you aren’t going to use it?
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If the Rick Nash to LA trade happened, it would look something like this:
To Los Angeles, F Rick Nash
To Columbus, the Los Angeles Kings
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408kingsfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
@California Royalty, sounds reasonable if DL is sharp enough maybe he can hold onto Bailey
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
@California Royalty, As long as we’re making trades, Can someone talk to the NHL network and see what they’ll take to give us Hiedi back?
I’m thinkin Patrick, and an equipment guy. Maybe free up some salary space if we trade a spare Zamboni to Calgary.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@Dominick, Actually now that I think about it I think the fact that Heidi left is the reason for our power outage. We need Heidi back so we can start scoring again.
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Deke'r Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@California Royalty, …well that shoots that deal down…they know our GPG number….
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***OFF TOPIC PROSPECT ALERT***
Does someone want to tell me again why we didn’t pick the hometown boy Emerson Etem who wanted to be a King at the Draft that was in LA a few years back? I was at that one and was screaming for us to grab him. I believe we got Forbort instead. The Ducks got him all the way down at 29th.
Why do you ask?
Well he just potted 50 goals in 50 games for Medicine hat in the WHL. Not very many have done that. Imagine that, we could have had a scorer….
http://www.rantsports.com/fiveholedive/2012/02/14/video-anaheim-ducks-prospect-emerson-etem-scores-50-goals-in-50-games/
Read the article and then please tell me again why we passed him up. Rich – feel free to ask Mike Futa if you can. I’m not being snarky, I’d really like to find out why we passed on him. Maybe they thought we could get him in the 2nd round?
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
@Cynic, That was my gripe on draft day. I thought he was a no brainer. Local boy, grew up a Kingsfan. Scouts even had him slotted to go around when the Kings would pick, and thought it would be a good choice (all except for the Kings scouts that is).
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@Dominick, I didn’t see any other team picking him until the Ducks did at the end of the first round. So it wasn’t like the Kings were the only team not picking him.
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Deke'r Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
@Dominick, …..maybe cause the other “Kingsfan” they signed cost them an arm and a leg….
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
@Deke’r,
What does Doughty have to do with any of this? Goodness, the guy struggled early. It’s well documented. But that’s WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off topic in this off topic post.
If I recall correctly, I remember a kings rep saying they can’t pick players just cuz they’re local boys and they have to go with the best available. For the kings, the best available always seems to be a d-man because forwards just don’t appear to be solid 1st round picks…..
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
@Cynic, He wouldn’t be helping us now and who knows if he will ever amount to anything in the NHL, Brad Richardson scored 27 goals one year in the OHL and his last season he had 41 goals and 56 assists. So you can’t totally go by what they do in Juniors. Plus it helps having a top defenseman which I think Forbert can turn into, when he finishes College in a couple of years. Only one of Greene, Scuderi and Mitchell will be with us then, so Forbert can replace them in that spot.
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JD Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 2:12 am
@Jeff_R, At this years world juniors, etem was flat out the better player
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:10 am
@Cynic, Wondered about that one as well. Good thing we got a defenseman instead (rolls eyes).
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With the fact that a so called Eklund league source says Nash to LA, I wouldn’t be surprised if that is how it turns out. The Kings came out quickly denying it, so that usually means something is up. I am sure the package of players will be different then what the league source told Eklund. I am pretty sure it will include Bernier, a defenseman (Johnson or Voynov) and a prospect + 1st rounder. I am sure we could throw in Penner. We get Nash and Sanford and either a 2nd rounder or 3rd. If we have to throw in Brown instead of Penner, I will be disappointed to see Brown go but that is the world we live in. You have to give to get.
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AZ King Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@Jeff_R,
You’re putting waaaaayyyyyyyy too much faith in Ecklund and his “league source”. I WOULD be surprised if that’s how it turned out. All he’s trying to do is get more hits on his site.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
@AZ King, I have no faith in Eklund. I think the players he had in the rumor was bogus, cept for the Bernier and pick part. I do however think there is a good chance of Nash coming to us. If you think about it, the Kings are basically the best fit for Nash and Columbus through this trade. Nash gets the Center and team he has been hoping Columbus would get and be and Columbus gets a good amount of assets to help in there rebuild. Win Win for both teams.
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
@AZ King, Actually, he’s not putting the faith in Ecklund, but how fast the Kings reacted to the story. He does have a point. IMHO Helen and DL have been working together for some time now on rumor control type stories. Helen had DL’s back with Smyth and DD. I’m thinking Helen knows exactly what is going on and wanted to make sure she gets the scoop.
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McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
@Jeff_R, I’m not into giving up forwards… Forwards of ANY quality are in short supply in our dressing room. If you get Nash, back Brown down a line or two to where he may fit a little better and spread the talent a bit; I seriously dislike the idea of giving up a “scoring forward” of any caliber. I’d far rather pitch Richardson in or somesuch; granted we get a better sniping forward in return, but generally you try and trade away what you have in surplus; Dustin Brown isn’t surplus…
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
@McSorleyfan, let me know when you find a “scoring forward” in our locker room…
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
@Stuart, Especially one named Richardson.
McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
@Stuart, Yeah, this season not withstanding…
KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
@Stuart, Dam, you beat me to it. Exactly what I was going to write.
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
@McSorleyfan, I don’t want to give up Brown either. I am hoping for Bernier, Johnson, prospect (Kitsyn, Toffoli or Kozun) and 1st round pick for Nash, Sanford and 3rd. I only brought up Brown because Columbus might want an established NHL Winger to come back. I am hoping that isn’t the case, but I wouldn’t say no to this trade at all if Brown was the deciding factor. I’d do it.
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@Jeff_R, it must just be you and me that think giving up some of our roster players for Nash would be a bad thing… oh well, stick with what’s working, and then when it’s not 60+ games in, just keep bringing in the ranch hands…
GKG
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
@Stuart, I would love to get Nash for what Eklund said. Bernier, Penner, Hunter and a pick. My god what a steal that would be for DL and Howson would be fired on the spot, or a riot would break out in Columbus. However I live in the real world and know we will lose Johnson, Bernier and possibly Brown in this deal. I mean how often does a guy like Nash come up….You make that trade 100 times out of 100, especially if your team has trouble scoring. We get Nash and i doubt we would see Kopi going 20 games or so without scoring in the future. Nash will score 40-50 goals playing with kopi and Kopi will be the 100pt annual guy we expected.
Deke'r Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
@Jeff_R, ….no worries….you don’t trade your captain just before playoffs….ridiculous….preposterous….cockamamy…
McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
@Jeff_R, back on that forward with scoring potential… Toffoli, I’d love to keep. If Richardson was a scoring type of forward, I’d say keep him; he’s a utility guy, simply put. Brown may not be the cat’s meow, and this late we still have no one over 20 goals. Simply put so Stuart can understand where I’m coming from, look at the Kings stats and there are currently 4 players who have made the “teens”. To make the playoffs and make round 2 will mean we get the train back on the rails. Our best hope, I hate to say, is getting the guys who have scored in the past scoring again. The players with the best chance to make that happen, and to be able to generate enough production to make it work, are those top 4. After those 4 there is a HUGE drop-off. I would want to structure any move to keep those 4, and from what MY sources say it’s very possible, but I’m not sure how to structure it… The guy says we need to also move Ron Hextall for Howson.
Good thing nobody would complain if those two kids don’t score a goal or two cause they don’t have million dollar contracts. I hope they just enjoy the opportunity and get this lionheart line going with no pressure on.
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…..King is obviously a rookie…doesn’t he know he should read these blogs to find out what he needs to do to stay in the bigs??…
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
@Deke’r, Probably how he got here.
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Deke'r Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
@Dominick, …..right….
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i’m refloating my trade from yesterday: JJ for Wayne Simmonds.
Voynov is ready, wayne is just expanding by the minute with the ice time, playing the power play, the 2nd line, penatly kills, and showing so much offensive confidence(if you’ve been watching Center Ice). i had 1 vote yes and 1 vote no yesterday.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
@d b cooper, If you think Wayne will score in L.A. like he is doing in Philly then please let me know what next weeks Lotto #’s are. Thank you.
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Ill leave this right here
“Darren Dreger just went on TSN radio and confirmed the Kings were high in Nash’s list and that Bernier was mentioned along with Jack Johnson.”
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
@pr0cess, Now that is a whole lot more credible.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
@KC23, Yea it does. But it was also said by Dennis Bernstein (TFP) yesterday on twitter. he mentioned that a deal to the Kings would start with Bernier and Johnson.
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McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
@pr0cess, That’s what he said.
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Deke'r Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
@pr0cess, ….if JJ is really included in this supposed trade….that sure sends a message to the team about self negotiated contracts….maybe DD knew what he was doing…
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
@Deke’r, JJ knows this is a business and he knows that a trade like this makes the team better. The Kings know this as they went through the Doughty negotiations. This is how it is and unfortunately the nature of all sports includes trades.
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:15 am
@Deke’r, JJ’s value is a fraction of DD’s value. Apples and oranges. JJ’s contract is a large part of what makes JJ valuable to any team, including us. On that note JJ had a horrid game against Dallas. JJ ain’t no DD imho.
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Some of you guys are just insane (with regards to this Nash trade). A lot of posts about who they think would be involved in the trade. Some common names being served up are Martinez, Penner, Loktionov, Bernier, draft picks.
That’s literally like offering Albert Pujols in exchange for John MacDonald, Benji Molina, Vernon Wells and a conditional draft pick.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
@California Royalty,
Sorry, bit that is incorrect. No way does Nash hold the same position in the NHL that Pujols holds in MLB. Nash is more the equivalent of Tori Hunter or Vernon Wells (playing welll). I dont think he is considered the best offensive player in the NHL.
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California Royalty Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
@DesertKing, No, he is actually. He doesn’t get any recognition in the US because he’s
A) Canadian. and B) plays in Ohio.
Tori Hunter? So he’s over the hill?
Vernon Wells playing well? So he’s a 20 goal scorer? Not even close.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
@DesertKing, It is hard to say just how good Nash is because he has never really had the players around him that make him better. Kind of like Kopitar. or Kopi it has been a Sniper Winger and for Nash it has been a Center. While he has had good years, imagine how they would of been with a legitimate #1 Center.
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Cry Baby Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
@California Royalty, This isn’t baseball
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:18 am
@California Royalty, You are wrong. JJ and Bernier are both considered high value targets for many teams. Chicago is one that should have a lot of interest in those two. They need both and they need them bad. I have watch several Chicago games lately and their defense is scarey bad and their goal tending isn’t so great either. Chicago is on the fast track to being out of the playoffs.
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If we got Nash can you imagine how great our PP will become. I mean imagine Nash with Kopi and Williams with Richards on the point and Doughty. Then 5 on 5 if Brown is still around he can move to the 2nd line with Richards where he belongs. This would be a great trade and the missing piece we been waiting for.
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Tony in Denver Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
@Jeff_R, Last summer, I think I said to myself…. “Wow, Mike Richards playing with Brown and Williams. That power play will be unstoppable.”
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McSorleyfan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
@Jeff_R, Like I said above; Get nash, protect the top 4 on the core sheet… and we have a HELL of a mix! If the kids stick, drop them to 3 with Fraser to keep them together and keep that gritty big 3 line together; Clifford to 2 with Brown and Richards? Not sure, but it looks MUCH better at that point. If it’s Toffoli, Kitsyn, or Kozun, not sure which you offer…
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@Jeff_R, Wouldn’t mind seeing Gags come back, and see an all former Philly line. I’ve been waiting since Richards was traded to us. Brown and Kopi would have Nash on their wing, and a very good top 6.
Brown-Kopi-Nash
Gagne-Richards-Williams
Dang it! see what you did. Now you got me thinking about it.
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
@Dominick,
It cannot be denied that Rick Nash will make this team a helluva lot better.
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Tony in Denver Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
@Stuart, Agreed.
Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
@Stuart, Even my idea has problems. Brown would still be a converted Right winger, and Gagne might still be 1 hit away from being hit into oblivion. Kings main problem for the last 5 years has been the Left wing position, and although the prospect intrigues me, it still comes with some risk.
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
@Dominick, LOL. Yea well we all did it 2 years ago when we thought Kovy would come to us, then last season with brad Richards. Now it is Nash, which could happen now or wait until the Draft. I am actually shock by this because I thought Howson would be fired, but if they are allowing him to make a trade of this magnitude then they better keep him. But yea I don’t mind who goes to the 2nd line Brown or Williams and I am hoping Gags can come back too. But no matter who it is I believe with Nash we are a much better team then we are now and I believe a complete team.
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Dominick Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
@Jeff_R, I actually got the feeling that if Howson is going to do anything, he would not want to be the one to use his last days as a GM to trade away the clubs only franchise player. That would be something he would leave for the offseason.
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
@Dominick, I agree. However since it looks like this trade will be made by Feb 27th, or even this Summer, it looks like they are sticking with Howson for at least 1 more season. I doubt they would have him make a trade of this magnitude if they were going to fire him. This trade has to be a cornerstone in the reawakening of Columbus as a viable franchise. If they mess it up it could turn disastrous. They wouldn’t have come out with this if Howson was being fired.
If Dean can get Nash for us by giving up Bernier and even a guy like Jack Johnson, I say take the deal…. You have to know that Bernier isn’t the only roster player they’d want.
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Oscar Moller's Beard Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
@Tony in Denver, If the Kings gave them Bernier, Johnson, Penner, and Kitsyn… do you think they’d take it? If not, would an extra pick work? That’s really all I’d be willing to gove up. (Oh, I’d also throw in Richardson, Hunter, Lewis, etc.)
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Tony in Denver Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard, Isn’t it crazy that us fans are entertaining the idea of Johnson as trade bait? Wow, his stock has plummeted!
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Oscar Moller's Beard Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
@Tony in Denver, Don’t get me wrong, I would hate to see Johnson traded, but for Nash… maybe. I’d much rather see Voynov go though.
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
@Tony in Denver, Umm I don’t believe the fact that Jack is in the trade rumor means his stock has fallen at all. It just means that you have to give to get. At this moment in time there is really only 2 players I would give a lot for. One is Nash and the other is Parise. Now that Nash is available you need to do all you can to obtain him. Whether we get Nash or Parise it will be the biggest move Dean will ever make as GM and it would put all the pieces together for a Cup Championship. It is the reason why Dean has worked hard in the draft and drafted the way he has. So that he can trade for a guy like Nash, knowing you have to give up a lot but it not matter because you have the resources in place to fill the holes left by the trade. Everybody wants to know why Dean kept picking defenseman and Goalies in the draft, well this is why.
Tony in Denver Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
@Tony in Denver, Jeff, I agree with you that you have to give to get. I just think it says something about a guy’s play when his name is suggested as bait. I mean, nobody’s saying Scuderi or Greene (both of whom would fall into the trade-any-defenseman-but-Doughty line of thinking).
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
@Tony in Denver, If you were starting a brand new team who would you pick first?
JJ
Greene
Scuderi?
Basically saying by Columbus trading Nash they are starting basically from scratch. Something the Kings did 4 years ago.
Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard, Columbus doesn’t want Richie, Hunter or Lewis. They want a top goalie (Bernier) top defenseman (Johnson) and a top forward (Brown?) plus a prospect and first round pick (Kings don’t have a 2nd or 3rd round pick.) Now while they will be looking to fill all 3 spots, they may only be able to get 2 of those spots filled with trading Nash. So I am hoping for Bernier, Johnson, one of Toffoli, Kitsyn, Kozun and a 1st rounder for Nash, Sanford and a 2nd or 3rd. They have other assets where they can get the top scoring forward they are looking for to replace Nash (Carter, Vermette, Umberger.)
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Tony in Denver Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
@Tony in Denver, I hear people knocking on Stoll for not scoring, but his face-off ability alone makes him a keeper.
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Even if we can’t deal for Carter or Nash, Columbus apparently stillw ants to deal Howson for Hextall, but I think we pass…
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
@McSorleyfan, If Howson is the one allowed to trade Nash then they are basically saying his job is safe for now. If they were going to fire him at the end of the season, why would they allow him to make the most important trade in franchise history. It just would not happen that way. I do think that had they fired Howson, Hextall would be a good choice for replacement. Then he could hire Terry Murray as head coach and teach the team defense, while they are going through rebuilding.
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I hate you all for getting my hopes up for Nash.
If you hear a loud yell from Santa Clarita Valley, that’s me and we got Nash.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
@KC23,
Or me…we have to find a way to synchronize this yell should this deal actually go through.
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
@KC23,
I started the day off simply stating what I would give to get, but now, if it doesn’t happen my hopes will be dashed too… LOL
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@Stuart, Can you imagine all the Kings blogs if we get Nash. They would all blow up. DL would be considered a genius by all those DL haters and they would all say they knew it all along how great he is.
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Jeffreyryan Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@KC23, Santa clarita!
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This is what dudes can play like BEFORE they get actress/model wives/girlfriends [*cough* stoll *cough* pancakes]. It’s not the “system” that seems to kill players when they come to LA, it’s the “home cooking.”
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Tony in Denver Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
@MmmmYummy, Agreed. LA is full of distractions, and it also lacks a local media that can put pressure on the players to perform. Sometimes you have to remind people that LA has a hockey team (and I don’t mean the Quacks).
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MmmmYummy Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
@Tony in Denver, OK, ok got a little carried away there – it’s the system too.
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I hate to be the eternal pessimist, but come on guys! This team was supposed to ALREADY be stacked…. Nash is a great player, but does his presence turn this team into a scoring machine? Or will be blend into the mix like Richards has done for most of the season, and we’ll be wishing we had guys like Zus and Simmonds back? (minus now Jack Johnson, for example)
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KC23 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
@Tony in Denver, We don’t need the team to be a scoring machine. We just need it to be average. With an average offense we are leading the division easily.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
@KC23,
Actually, even below average would suffice. If the Kings were say 20th in offense, they’d be leading the Pacific. It’s not crazy to think adding Nash will help improve the offense by .40-.50 goals a game, which would be enough considering the defense is so strong. In fact, adding him might improve the D further since the Kings would presumably have the puck more often, thus further reducing the opposition’s chances.
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Tony in Denver Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
@FKA PakiFro, In a season in which the Kings are playing SO GOOD defensively, while getting great goaltending, how unfortunate that scoring is such an issue. This team could be running away with the division. But you’re right, just a LITTLE more scoring, combined with this defense, and we could be a force in the playoffs.
Oscar Moller's Beard Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
@Tony in Denver, Nash is a great player, and his presence will turn this team into a scoring machine.
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I would give up Bernier, Stoll(or Penns), VV(or Martinez) for Nash, but JJ? No thanks.
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goldielocks Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
@goldielocks,
Oh btw, Parise > Nash for that matter.
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Stuart Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@goldielocks, I think there’s a saying about opinions…
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
@goldielocks, Yes but it is a lot easier to trade for Nash then it is to sit and wait for Parise to say where he wants to go. Been there and done that and it has never ended well. Once Nash comes here he will make you forget JJ and VV will also help you forget.
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Crownme87 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
@goldielocks, I wouldn’t want to lose JJ either. He’s a solid Dman.
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Who’s got the worst plus/minus on Columbus?
Nash. -22
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
@KC23, hey let people fly on the magic carpet!
Don’t give them stats now.
(even though plus/minus on the worst team in NHL isn’t really saying much)
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Oscar Moller's Beard Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@Lake Forest, Who’s the worst team in the NHL?
Columbus.
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I hear a lot trade Bernier talks, alright if thats what needs to be done to acquire top forward … but uhhh who filling his spot? both Manchester goalies are a huge down grade, Berniers time will come with or without the kings, he is as elite as they come, just needs more playing time. I would like to see a few prospects tossed in before we start giving away picks again, more specifically our little “snipers” Kozun/Moller/ who are not going to make it with the kings, if they stay as our prospects they are just going to become AHL all stars.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
@hockeynerd, Columbus has Sanford, whom has almost single handily kept the Kings from scoring in 3 games this season. I believe he will be a part of the trade, as Columbus won’t need him anymore.
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PK Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 5:48 pm
@hockeynerd, our goalie, Jones, in Manch made the AHL all star game. He is a stud. And he has size. If we can get Nash for bernier and a few other players. DO IT!
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Lazyone2133 Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
@PK, The other goalie, Zatkoff made the all star game thisyear
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If we give up JJ and or Martinez in a trade and Scuderi and Michell don’t resign we are back to where we started. “Building from the blue line out”
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….looks like the Rangers are the real deal…
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goldielocks Reply:
February 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
@Deke’r,
I think it will turn out to be that way.
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:27 am
@Deke’r, The only problem I see with the Rangers … they’re peaking too early. You want to be playing like they are now going into the playoffs. Nearly impossible to keep that kind of momentum for that long. Look what is happening to the Bruins after being unstoppable for so long.
I think the same thing about Detroit right now. Going to be hard to stay at that level and when you fall off, it is sometimes hard to regain.
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Gotta run, boys (and girls)…. It’s been great chatting…. Someday (in hopfully the not-too-distant future), when we have that parade down Figueroa, we can all say that we stuck by this team through the good and the bad. And all the people who jumped on the bandwagon (a’la the ’93 finals) will know who the true fans are.
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Columbus has a game tonight. Nothing can happen until that game is over I would think.
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Not necessarily. Remember Cammalieri was traded during a game. Asked to go back to the hotel and wait. His trade to Calgary was being speculated near the end of the game and confirmed soonafter.
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:31 am
@deedub, I think that only happened because there was so much friction caused by Cammalleri in the locker room. Montreal hated that guy at the end.
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Got a kick out of all the Nash posts. Hey, I hope it happens but I’m not holding my breath. We will see in 13 days at the most which also happens to be my birthday. Nash would be a great gift DL. I would give Columbus Bernier, JMFJ and filler to make this happen every day of the week but I am guessing the Rangers, Red Wings, Bruins, Vancouver, Sharks and quite a few other teams will be making offers as well.
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KC23 Reply:
February 15th, 2012 at 6:34 am
@King Alex, Trouble is Rangers, Red Wings, Bruins, Vancouver and Sharks don’t have the either the cap space or the goalie and young defenseman Columbus requires, the Kings do. Nash has been quoted as not wanting to be in a large market town. He doesn’t like the lime light apparently. The King’s fit pretty good in all areas.
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Penner needs a brother like that, even if he never laced skates to play hockey.
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“So I’m a little familiar with that rink. I was happy to play anywhere.”
You just gotta love the passion and enthusiasm behind those words!!!
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