Darryl Sutter’s postgame thoughts…
(on the strong play of King and Nolan…)
SUTTER: “Pretty much right through (the lineup). We were finishing a long stretch of games, and you just have to really suck it up and find a way. They were fresh, those two.’’
(on not panicking after Dallas tied the game…)
SUTTER: “It’s not a big deal, really. That’s how you’ve got to play. It’s a tough league, a tough league to score in, a tough league to win in. The most important part of what you see is playing with a lead. Scoring the first goal is way more important than anything else, the way this league is now.’’
(on finishing the trip with a win…)
SUTTER: “We played really well. The only time I had any issue was the first game of the trip, the first period against St. Louis. Other than that, I thought we played really well. You’ve kind of always got to separate it. We’ve struggled to score. That’s not a secret now. It’s not about our work or compete, I know that. Our kids play hard.’’
final: DET 4, PHI 3
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SLIM Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@petemagoop,
and just to add…
Lidstom’s 1550 game and 20th
home win tying the NHL record..
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
@petemagoop, I’m not impressed with the Wings’ streak. Playing 7 on 5 (or better) all the time, they should win!
I’d like to know what wonders lie at the end of the red carpet Mr. ilitch lays out for the officials
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Shotongoal Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
@Kenny44, The Wings will never win it all with Howard in goal.
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Christian T Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 10:39 am
@Kenny44, The refs seem a little crazed at times but Detroit is always a great team that plays well as a team.
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KEEP THEM DARRYL , FLEX YOUR MUSCLE AND TELL DEAN THEY STAY OR YOU GO…………….
Great job Jordan, telephone lines are buzzing around Ontario.
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petemagoop Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
@Harty, and Latvia
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Harty Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
@petemagoop, great stuff keep him up here
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Whoever’s idea it was to bring up Nolan and King and stick them with Richards is a friggen’ genius [for the time being].
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jack Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@MmmmYummy, I heard it was Kompon’s idea..:-)
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SLIM Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
@jack,
Funny…I heard it was Penner’s..
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
@jack,
Someone told me TM made the call….
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MmmmYummy Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
@jack, Noooooooooo! Please somone put a restraining order on Kompon to stay away from these two kids.
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number 6 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
@MmmmYummy,
That was most likely DL, so until you confirm that……
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zulov Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
@number 6, Actually it was Rich Hammond. So how about a round of applause for the guy!
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McSorleyfan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
@MmmmYummy, As long as they keep Wormtongue out of their ears!
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Sutter knows what’s up with farm boys..
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MickSorley Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
@SLIM, There are few sure things in this word. But this is one of them.
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Our compete? Is compete a verb?
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
@TRuskowski,
Yes, it is since it is an “action” word. DS is using it as a noun, which is incorrect, as it should be used as an adjective (description word) in the phrase “comepete level.” But what the heck, DS is from the farm, and half the time I don’t understand what he is saying.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
@DesertKing,
Of course, I need to learn to spell “compete,” but what the heck, I ain’t no English teacher and everything I learned came from “Conjunction Junction” during Saturday morning cartoons.
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LA_1968 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
@TRuskowski, I think you mean a noun. “our house”, “our car”, “our victory”…
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SLIM Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
@LA_1968,
Our house..In the middle of the Street..Our House..
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Mars Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
@SLIM, +1 for that
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
@SLIM,
…is a very very very fine house, with 2 cats in the yard, life use to be so hard, now everything is easy because of youuuuu…..
370455vinSD Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
@SLIM, Better yet, it was our castle and our keep.
zulov Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
@TRuskowski, TM used it all the time = so much so that it annoyed most of us on this blog. When DS first got here, he never used it. Either he got the memo from Rich not to use it and now he is forgetting himself, OR Kompon is now doing his Voodoo on DS too!!!
OH NO!
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McCheese Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:11 am
@TRuskowski, kind of funny how when Terry used to use that one, everyone would jump all over him and have a laugh. Now we are winning a few more games and its an endearing term from the guy off the farm.
Not bashing anyone on either side… very, very happy where we’ve been heading the last 20 games. Just funny how the tides move.
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Christian T Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 10:52 am
@TRuskowski, I’m pretty sure DS was excepted at an Ivy League school so the whole farm boy thing is probably just an act so that we don’t bother him all the time. The guy is pretty smart about how he handles the team. Even though they still can’t score the level of play is 100% better than it was under TM.
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Good Job Mr. Sutter
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Not sure if anyone said it, but we won with only 16 shots on goal, and faced 28. I find that a good stat in ONE (only one) way; the quality shots, vs just getting it there with nobody for the rebound. Now that we have had a good scoring game with some new blood on the ice, lets see if we can shake the tree and drop some more pucks into the net. I am hoping this rattles the cages of a few guys and gets everyone going. They were all shown up and need to step the f up.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
@Mars,
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
@Mars,
Most of those shots were from close in due to the boys going to the net tonight. As usual, when we score on the power play, we win. GKG!!!
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Mikey J. Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
@Mars, Sure didn’t miss those weak shots from the half wall gobbled up by the opposing goalie.
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Carol Vadnais Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
@Mikey J., King and Nolan both crashed the net and created chances – they certainly saved Johnson’s ass
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Oh, and “Nobody died,” right coach?
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Mars Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
@KingMe20, Not today… that I saw on Yahoo news anyways.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
@KingMe20,
Did Whitney Houston ever play hockey?
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Cortex949 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
@DesertKing, … That’s pretty… Uhhh…. What’s the word… Shocking lol
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 1:10 am
@DesertKing, She skied with Bobby a lot!
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furrylats Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 9:04 am
@Lake Forest, HAHAHA!!!
I know this will sound bad, but they did like the snow, didn’t they?
Weird how easy the kids Nolan and King made things look. Just hard work on the boards and going to the net. Richards looking like he is just loving life playing with these two.
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Keep kompon away from them……..please!
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
@Shutyo5hole2,
Keep him away from everyone.
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poe Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
@DesertKing, I second that!!!
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johnjuan Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
@DesertKing, Leave him in Texas.
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So I was one game off. i predicted nolan and king getting a point.
Good job sutter at bringing those kids up.
Some will say, why not earlier? Because most here have 20/20 hindsight.
Great game. Wish I was able to see it.
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SDGolfer Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
@Lake Forest, DL makes personnel decisions.
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
@SDGolfer,yeah I’m sure sutters visit to Manch during the ASG had nothing to do with those two coming up.
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DEH Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
@SDGolfer, I remembered a post by Rich a few days ago that stated DL was going to talk to DS in FLA about the roster… I could be wrong though.
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Gustavo Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
@SDGolfer,
Sutter was in Manchester watching the Monarchs during All Star Break. It is reasonable to assume both DL and DS worked closely together in choosing who to promote to the big club.
At least, I hope they do work together when it comes to making player roster decisions.
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Durning the all-star break Sutter went to Manchester and watched a game or 2 there and thats when he got a look at Nolan and Kinger.It was a great call to bring them up…..
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In a way…I feel sorry for Penner….he can be such an amazing player in this league….and I for one would’ve taken a chance on him also. Perhaps he doesn’t belong in the pros. I don’t blame DL for taking that chance on a guy who has all the skill and talent in the world. We would all like to think we can make a difference, but sometimes one just does not care.
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
@tellmeY, And like Rich said before 95% (of us) agreed with the trade when it happened. They all don’t work out unfortunately.
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nykingfan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 5:01 am
@tellmeY,
I don’t feel bad fot Penner at all. Lack of hustle is something that’s unforgiveable.
I feel for bad for a guy like Richardson who hustles his butt off but can’t finish. Not Pernner.
I was also one of those who thought it was a great trade. I don’t blame DL at all.
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Remember Cammaleri’s signature shod from the knee? Nolan’s goal sort of reminded me of that. Haven’t seen such since he left. Could he possibly be the needed sniper? Just askin’
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Old Codger Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
@Old Codger, That’s shot. Just plum overexcited from the Kings scoring three goals in the same game.
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Gustavo Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
@Old Codger,
Four (4) goals
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Old Codger Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 8:03 am
@Gustavo, # scored, one was a gimme
I like those two new rookies…
I hope they can keep it up an start scoring goals and make a good fire under the Kings butt..
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Great win & way to go Nolan & King! Let’s see if this can carry over Thursday against the Yotes . I’ll be there & hopefully the Kings will bring this effort home with them. Go Kings Go!!!!
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I know the boys gotta rest, but man Thursday seems forever away…
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Let`s not forget what a great game Quick had for the King`s tonite. Thank you young man!
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
@old man, Paging poorman to the white courtesy phone …
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Should I order my Penner jersey now, or wait until they go on clearance?
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
@Mars,
You could hang it next to Roenick’s, in your toilet room.
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Gustavo Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
@Mars,
I’d wait till after July 1….you might get the wrong TEAM for Penner’s jersey
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tornado12 Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 12:38 am
@Gustavo, Which softball team would that be?
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I expect Penner to be gone by the end of the week. DL, get it done. Now.
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Deirdre Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
@KC23, …if not sooner. This from EPSN tonight on the game and a maybe a new job for Penner
“On the eve of his much-publicized Pancakes with Penner fundraiser at a restaurant in the South Bay, one in which fans entered a drawing to eat breakfast with the maligned veteran, Kings left wing Dustin Penner was a healthy scratch for the second consecutive game. With the success of Nolan and King so far, Penner might want to consider filling out an application while he’s there.”
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puck73 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
@KC23, If King and Nolan continue to be effective then it is almost certain he is gone.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
@puck73,
It is for “certain,” the only unknown is when exactly “certain” will be. It would be great to get something for him, even a draft pick, rather than nothing when he walks at the end of the season. Either way, we get rid of a lodestone and clear his $4.25 million hit on our cap.
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
@puck73, Actually, I think it’ll be Richardson and Hunter being gone. Penner still is better than those two imho.
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puck73 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
@KC23, Richardson couldnt finish if his life depended on it. Its a shame because he works his butt off on every shift, but like Stoll, no finish.
ddc Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 2:46 am
@KC23,
i could take or leave hunter, but keep richardson… to compare him to penner is wrong… penner is suppose to be a top 2 line guy, and he hasn’t been… richardson is a checking line guy, and is great at it… in a way he’s our steve ott… he gets under the other team’s skin, is always right there yapping, works his butt off, etc… and lastly, penner’s contract is night and day in cost compared to richardson…
I think its so funny that when the Kings used to REALLY not do well we would always bring up the farm for scoring and it took us until now to finally do it this year lol
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puck73 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
@Subby, I think its time for you to make an appearance Thursday night on Kings talk.
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
@puck73, lol oh I do love calling in :p
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P.S. Stop bashing Penner -_- #annoying
Scoring slumps aren’t fun yo. I’ve been in one for OVER a year now. That’s 4 seasons. My numbers have gotten worse EVERY season since my best season of my career. Hockey isn’t an easy sport. Confidence plays such a huge role you have no idea. It took me forever to figure it out. So stop. I’m sure he is WAY more upset about his play then any single Kings fan is.
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puck73 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
@Subby, Your not being paid 4 million a season either. Its not apples to apples Subby.
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
@puck73, I know, I just get down sometimes from the negativity ;(
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Kings x Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
@Subby, Possibly consult a therapist
DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
@Subby,
Sorry Subby, but his lack of effort is what drives us crazy. Even those of us who are not true athletes can tell the difference between someone who is earning and someone who is just collecting a paycheck.
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
@DesertKing, Oh no, I totally agree with his lack of effort on many nights and I do think he is on his way out and I understand that everyone hates him but the constant bashing is just like old. I don’t like bashing our own players. He is still a King and as long as he remains a King I am going to have hope for him.
That goes for all our players. I rarely ever lose hope in a player. I always try to keep the gut feeling that something is good to come. That’s why it’s hard for me to bench a Kings player on my fantasy roster. Because I always try to believe in them. Not to get all sappy and lame but I just idk.
I think its funny to joke and call players funny nicknames, I love it. I used to call Smyth Grampa lol but it just always seems no matter what someone has something bad to say about anything about the Kings and I just really wish we could all be a little more supportive and look at things in a different way but hey I could be the wrong one. Maybe we should get on Penner and bash.
This is something I think about all the time and I am still not certain on whats right or wrong.
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
@Subby,
Stay positive man, the Kings are lucky to have you as a fan
Lake Forest Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 1:16 am
@Subby, You are not alone, but when does the time come you know? good post, we all feel the same way. Some of us are just more patient than others.
After King or Nolan’s first shift, I was like F pankcakes. =/
hockeynerd Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:18 pm
@Subby, When it comes to Penner lack of production is a secondary concern at this point in the season.
it is his lack of energy/effort he DOESN’T bring. It is not ALL about points, last nights game against Florida King and Nolan were 2 of the best players on the ice .. they went pointless, heck they went shotless. Penner for whatever reason is not fitting with in so its best for all parties to part ways. This is a player that if he goes off and becomes successful, which is highly possible .. finds his game again on another team, Ill be happy for, BUT i still wont wish we kept him around, someones garbage is someone else treasure.
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
@hockeynerd, well put.
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vicarious Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
@hockeynerd, I think Penner has put in the effort but it hasn’t worked for him here. IMO, Penner is slow and not overly physical. He plays a cerebral game. Penner’s rarely if ever going to be a favorite of the fight’em crowd, the hit em crowd, or the try harder crowd (who like to see people running around). Penner wqas a proven NHL scorer for other teams, though. Maybe he was hurt, maybe his game doesn’t fit, maybe he didn’t want to be traded, maybe last year he was not in shape (but I wonder how he managed in Edmonton if that was his problem). Seems to me Penner’s a good egg. Having said all that, seems to me the AHL rooks both outplayed Penner. Penner will probably sign somewhere else next year and revert to scoring 20-30 goals.
Look on the bright side: the Kings don’t have Gomez, making 6-7 million and who went a year without scoring for Montreal.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 5:49 am
@vicarious,
Those are valid points and I think you nailed it. Penner’s game has not fit with our team since we acquired him but I still like the guy. I think the knock on his effort is BS too. He’s just a different style of player and other than scoring there’s just not a lot that he does very well so when he’s not scoring he looks awful. Lewis and Richardson can’t score either and contribute almost nothing except turnovers, but they expend a lot more energy than Penner doing it so they’re not called out by as many fans. Rest assured, this is Penner at rock bottom and we may never see him in a Kings sweater again but I don’t think his effort is the cause. He’s a square peg in LA and just won’t ever be the guy we all thought we were getting. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t care.
Mars Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
@Subby,
Subby, I know I dont know you, but I know you will pick up your game, you sound like you have heart and desire, relax and it will come to you bro.
Penner was a huge let down though, we have had a few, Moreau being another recently. But I am not going to write off a (or all) player(s)having a bad season, I still hope Stoll will come back healthy, strong and back to his true form, and as a center, I hate when the Kings try to convert centers to wingers. I am also looking forward to a healthy Gagne and Parse too.
Dunno if that helps or not, but I wish you and the kings the best. GKG and Go Subby Go!
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
@Mars, awhh well thanks :p I am still doing a lot of other things but for some reason I can not for the life of me find the back of the net. I went from a 14 goals 13 assist in 10 games to like 3 goals 4 assist in 10 games :/ but we won the Championship last year ;p and our names the Kings :p ahaha
and geeze I doo tooo
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DesertKing Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
@Subby,
Can DL get you signed in the next week? We could use those numbers.
Cortex949 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
@Subby, Where do u play? I broke my 3 game scoring drought two nights ago with an accidental one handed chip in over the goalies shoulder. Was trying to pull a pass back to my forehand but chipped it in lol. Told everyone I meant to do that
LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
@Subby, Hell I haven’t scored in 17 years, my girlfriend won’t let me.
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SLIM Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:33 pm
@LVKINGS88,
Sounds to me after 17 years
it’s time to poop or get off the pot..
But if it’s working..then cool for you..
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
@LVKINGS88, HAHAHA xD
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
@Subby, Why sometimes I don’t agree, I do love how positive you are about the Kings all the time.
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
@KC23, Thank you sir :]
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jason Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
@Subby, schenn has played 28 games and got 2 goals tonight… schenn now has 8 goals in 28 games
penner 5 goals in 43 games
brown 13 goals in 57 games
stoll 5 goals in 55 games
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colo king fan Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
@Subby,
I’ve rooted the guy since day one. Off the ice, I love the guy. Amicable, funny, doesn’t seem arrogant (other than the ring is there something to be arrogant about?).. but enough is enough. The dude has great hands but he skates like a three legged hippo and I’m fairly certain it’s a choice. So if he goes to Toronto like everyone is saying I won’t be the least bit upset. Hopefully we get a pick back but the cap room is more than enough for me.
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Subby Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
@colo king fan, Yeah so have I. I don’t know why I took a liking to him and then when I met him and saw how funny he was in videos I saw of him that didn’t really get me hating him any more. I still make fun of him all the time but idk I think he’s a good guy and he is gonna be a good player somewhere else.
Oh and a pick would be lovely ;p *crosses fingers*
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Someone mentioned a trade like this on tsn.ca willams voynov and greene for carter. I personally say no. What u guys think?
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
@Kingsfan602, I don’t think we should trade for Carter’s contract for a bag of pucks or even Penner … okay, maybe Penner.
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colo king fan Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
@Kingsfan602,
LOL that’s giving up way too much for a malcontent.. CBJ be lucky to half that package… voynov lol.. for Nash maybe.
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JD Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 1:42 am
@Kingsfan602, I hope that’s a trade that never happens, Carter’s contract is too long, and Williams is a player they really need to keep. As for penner and stoll, penner is a good player with alot of skills, he just. Never fit in here, I’ll bet he’s another player who really picks it up after he leaves the kings, stoll we need to resign, put him back at center where he belongs, and he’ll be a big asset again for us next year
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ddc Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 2:57 am
@Kingsfan602,
it won’t happen, richards and carter will not be reunited… they were looked at as the party boys in philly that couldn’t put their fun on the back burner long enough to win… from my sources (and yes, they are very inside), the main issue was carter, and richards got lumped in too (mainly because he did nothing to stop/change it… ie if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem)… and then to see the way carter has spent his limited time in columbus complaining about not wanting to be there, we don’t need that.
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I love to be able to read DL’s mind right now about what he plans to do in the next couple of weeks. Nolan and King have just made things easier, but a lot more complicated at the same time.
Soon as Stoll can play again DL is gonna be going from the frying pan to the fire. I think Penner will be dumped for next to nothing and Hunter will go on Wavers, but that is a guess to be sure.
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Shuchuck Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
@KC23, logical guess. a bag of pucks for Penner or do they swing for the fences and get a costco-sized box of powdered gatorade for mr. pancakes?
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Having King and Nolan come in and contribute says one thing only for Stoll and Penner…see ya later dudes…same with Hunter!
PS Maybe the Kings can bring back Moller and Holloway from Sweden once their play-offs are done in April or sooner if things work out that way!
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The kids played well and our boys got the win, this pleases me ! One thing I’ve noticed, by the way, is that the last 4 or 5 games when Westy’s been in,, we win. With Hunter in his stead, we’ve lost. Keep the 2 kids and Westy in the lineup and let’s get on a roll!
Go Kings
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puck73 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
@YoBro, I agree. To me, Clifford plays a more effective brand of hockey when Westgarth is on his off Wing with Fraser centering.
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@puck73, Absolutely!! The 4th line with Westy looks better every time they’re on the ice and you can tell they make life uncomfortable for the opposition. With the chemistry the’ve been developing, I would only play Hunter if there was an injury. I just seems so obvious to me that I can’t understand ever scratching Westy (the hockey player) in favor of Hunter.
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wow!!! that was something seeing richards playing and not having to carry the refrigerator around. #25 might look good in a maple leaf uniform???
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KC23 Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
@11 or 3, According to DL El Cid Lounge men’s softball league already owns his rights.
“Dustin is at the crossroads of his career,” Lombardi wrote in an email to Sporting News. “He can choose to use his athletic ability to either become a dominant power forward in the National Hockey League or be a dominant number four hitter for the El Cid Lounge in a men’s softball league — the choice is his.”
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Shuchuck Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
@KC23, HAHA. see ya at Big League Dreams, Pancake Man!
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 12:42 am
@Shuchuck, I had high hopes for Penner when we got him and he started out well but got KO’d by Willie and Kopi getting injured. Then the fact that he worked real hard in the off season, I really thought he was going to have a monster year and gain a new contract, whether it was with us or not. While I am disappointed that it didn’t work out, I am however upset as Penner didn’t really even try to make it work. Why go through all that work in the off season only to not work during the season. With Stoll at least you know he is a team player and he will work his butt off and play with heart. Unfortunately all that didn’t help him offensively, but at least you know he tried his best to make it work and kept working hard, even though he wasn’t scoring. The other facets of his game were there, even when the scoring wasn’t. He also didn’t say a word even when asked to play out of position, something he has never done before. he could of easily have come out and said something, knowing that he is in a contract year but he didn’t. I am a Stoll fan and I feel sorry for him that this year didn’t go the way he’d like. I wish Stoll luck wherever he lands but Penner I will hate to see if go to another team and then score 25-30 goals. I know there will be a lot of people here that says the Kings system, coaches, etc kept him down and blame Dl for that, when it should stand squarely on Penner’s shoulders.
11 or 3 Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@KC23, that is good news! he won’t have to worry about everyone pestering him about trying harder. the el cid guys are much more understanding than those nhl people.
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Adios Pennercakes, thanks for the laughs. I say keep Stoll around as a face off guy for the playoffs unless he’s part of a package to bring someone good back (he’s off the books next year anyway, right?).. as for Penner freakin salary dump city… bag of pucks? Whatever, just do it.
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Nobody mentioned that Loktionov finally found a way to score, getting his stick on shots yesterday and today that were going into the net anyway. He deflected them about one-eighth of an inch. If he keeps it up, he’ll have his own personal stat for goals scored by yourself and goals stolen from other players. He still hasn’t shot one in himself this year. Too bad, because he has some skill.
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SLIM Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
@Royal Throne,
The 1st goal went off his stick..
It might of gone wide of the net..
He stole nothing…
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johnjuan Reply:
February 12th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
@SLIM, It would have gone wide, it was a great play. They showed it from above.
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Jeff_R Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 12:09 am
@johnjuan, As Unlucky as the Kings have been most of the season, it is nice that they finally had goals go in unconventionally. At the end of the day it stands as 2 goals and nobody is going to remember or care how they went in, cept maybe Lokti himself.
Kings x Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@SLIM, Goals are goals
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red49er Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 9:31 am
@Royal Throne, maybe not a 100% accurate post but still the funniest i’ve read in a long time.
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11 or 3 Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@Royal Throne, hilarious. loktionov has good things ahead. maybe he can give a few pointers now to some other guys.
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2nd > 1st > 4th > 3rd. Surprisingly, 2nd line was the line having the least problem leaving their own zone. The 3rd line created lots of trouble in that zone. I know this is something to do with the line match up DS made, still 3rd line did the worst job.
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Harty Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 4:34 am
@goldielocks, if your talking about our zone that’s because the center has to come low to support and Lotkionov is not strong enough, watch this line, Lewis comes low more often the Lotkionov as he is not strong enough to fish pucks from the D guys and work them out to the wing……..
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goldielocks Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 10:52 am
@Harty,
That’s very interesting. Never thought of that. I thought it was Lewis who often blows the coverage beause of the lack of awareness or over doing the forechecking (see how he and Richardson blew it for the Dallas’s 2nd goal). But come to think of it, Lokti is showing very good back checking lately. That might be because he loses the puck as much. I’ll keep an eye on it.
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Congrats to the kids. They sure are making an impact in the lineup. It’s like a breath of fresh air. They hustle every shift. King is always the first one in on the forecheck and winning those 50/50 battles that guys like Penner lose consistently.
The difference is so noticeable between them and Wally Pip (Penner).
If the kids continue to play this way, I don’t think we’ll be seeing too much more of Penner and that’s a good thing. He has nobody to blame but himself. Lack of hustle and lack of heart are things you can control.
I guess we know why he signed up to do that early morning breakfast thing today. He can’t be too tired.
This was a big win for the Kings. Looking at the numbers it wasn’t as successful a trip as we wanted, but winning in regulation on the back end of a road back to back against a rested team chasing us, is huge in my book.
Another big one coming up Thursday agaisnt the Yotes. The boys will be rested and ready to go. Another 2 points on Thursday and away we go!.
Go Kings!
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I really wish Mike Richards did not have to ply all those previous games hand cuffed. Glad to see he is free again.
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In addition to his 2 goals in 2 games, Lokti has also been doing a lot better on faceoffs – 4/7 (57%) against the Islanders and 5/5 yesterday against the Stars (3/3 against Ribiero – Kopi was 0/2, Richards 2/4). In fact, seems like it wasn’t long ago that Lewis and Richardson were taking most of the faceoffs when that line was out. Still weak on the boards but, IMO, he’s doing better there and is almost always good for a steal or two a game. Don’t know what DS is going to do, but for now I wouldn’t put Stoll centering the third line unless Lotki really stumbles and takes a step backward . . .
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nykingfan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:06 am
@KDinUT,
Good point about Lotki.
He seems like a different player over the past week or so. He’s had the puck on his stick a lot more and is making plays in the offensive zone.
He’s still young and makes mistakes, but you can definitely see the talent.
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King Cobra Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:08 am
@KDinUT, Love that kid. The joy in his face this weekend was priceless.
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I like the new dudes. What makes me sick is DL’s
Trading of Simmonds and Schenn. Didn’t ever like that trade. Knew Schenn was gifted. Couldn’t be “Grinder” so Kings keep Clifford with big club. Clifford or Schenn? Lokti or Sturm a year ago? Young gifted Offensive Players are shipped elsewhere. Trading Bernier would be the worst move of all. Mark my words. These moves are Biting DL in the “derriere” as Kings struggle to make playoffs.
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nykingfan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:27 am
@Poorman,
Are you serious?
You might have been the only person in the world who thought getting Richards was a bad move. Even in hindsight that still was a trade that DL had to make.
The hope was that Schenn would one day become like Mike Richards. Her’s not there yet..not by a long shot. He has talent, but you’re not getting Richards without giving up something of value.
I love Simmer and wish we still had him, but again you have to give up something to get something.
You are still the only person who thinks keeping JQ over Bernier would be a mistake. Maybe you’re right, but there’s no way in hell anyone would consider Bernier the better goaltender at this point.
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puck73 Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 7:46 am
@nykingfan, lol. No matter what anyone on this site says. Even if Quick posted another 3 shutouts in a row. As soon as Quick gave up one goal and the kings lost, he (@poorman) would be right back on here saying that Quick blew it, is fading down the stretch, and that Quick couldnt carry Bernier’s jock ! lol lol
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Poorman Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 8:08 am
@puck73, I’m not comparing who’s better boys. I’m just saying don’t trade Bernier. I never liked the Richards trade, and Schenn wasn’t ever given a chance like so many young offensive Kings players. Schenn is gifted. We all knew that. Is Richards better? If you don’t give someone a chance. Sure. Is Quick better than Bernier? Sure, if he only gets into 10 games. In the long run, who’s better with both these comparisons? DL’s answer: Trade. Don’t give new players a chance. Result to this point (6 year plan): No playoff series wins. Struggling in year 6 just to make the playoffs.
nykingfan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 8:29 am
@Poorman,
If you’re talking about trading Bernier during this season I agree 100%.
But if you sign JQ to a long term contract over the summer, I don’t see how you can not trade Bernier. He becomes a valuable asset that will have a hard time wrstling the #1 spot from JQ unless of an injury. I think JQ is proving so far that he’s only getting better. I don’t expect a drop in his play. He’s maturing as a goaltender.
The thing about Schenn and Bernier is they both have potential. In DL’s mind, he felt that securing that #2 center with a guy like Richards was going to help win this year for the Kings and due to his young age, help us win in the long term future as well.
Schenn was a top prospect and trading him away for a deadline filler would have made no sense. He didn’t do that.
If you’re going into the playoffs right now, I think we can all agree that richards will probably give us more. Playoff experience does count adn he has plenty of it. Schenn’s still a baby. that’s not to say he won’t be as good or better than Richards, but right nhow, you have to take the experience that Richards brings us.
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King Cobra Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:27 am
@Poorman, I think Mike Richards was worth it. I think if he was on the Flyers team right now he would have the amount of goals combined that those two have.
It does bite seeing those two playing so good. You have to give great to get great.
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KC23 Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 8:39 am
@Poorman, I also don’t want to see Bernier traded right now, but I’ll take Mike Richards over Schenn and Simmonds any day. Now that Richards actually have some talent and size on his wings it’ll be interesting to see what developes.
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Time to get on a roll and take over that 1st in Pacific 3rd in West slot!
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Poorman Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 10:05 am
@King Cobra, Wouldn’t that be great! Then what would be have to talk about?
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Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee get rid of Pancakes and let the new kids stay.
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My son played goalie for 10 years, the last 2 with a real athletic kid who made spectacular, crowd pleasing saves. My son just made positional saves that looked routine because he read the play well and was seldom out of position…this is how Bernier plays. Quick, while great, does have a tendency to over react and slide out of position at times…in effect, trying to do too much because he knows he can’t give up ANY goals and expect a win. This is something he can correct, but I see it more this year, especially lately. The teams the Kings will play in the playoffs will exploit this flaw in Quicks game…Wings,Hawks,Casucks,Blues,Sharts, etc. because they all have multiple lines that can score. I agree with Poorman, Bernier is tthe better long term player. By the way, my kid had better numbers and more wins than the other kid, bujt the other was the crowd fave. Just sayin…
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nykingfan Reply:
February 13th, 2012 at 8:40 am
@Blade17,
Bernier’s a better technical goalie..JQ’s the more athletic goalie.
Which one is better? Let’s talk again in 10 years and see what happens.
You can’t say one way is better than the other.
JQ’s way of playing has made him an all star and the best player on the Kings right now. Without him, where would we be?
That’s not to say Bernier couldn’t be doing the same, but if one guy’s already doing it, that’s the guy I want in net for me.
Just an opinion.
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who knew we were trading two 20 goal scorers for a one 20 goal scorer when we made that trade….(Richards)
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It was no surprise to me to see Richards lift his game up with King and Nolan, he needed a pair of teammates that were fearless and that could stay on the fore-check, and get to the front of the net and stay there. Stoll will be needed for his faceoff prowess, but Penner could (and should) be checking the listings for a new apartment in another city.
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