Here’s how the Kings lined up in practice today…
Brown-Kopitar-Williams
King-Richards-Nolan
Clifford-Loktionov-Lewis
Penner/Fraser/Hunter/Westgarth/Richardson
Scuderi-Doughty
Mitchell-Johnson
Martinez-Greene
Quick
Bernier
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:44 am
@PaulCat,
Ditto
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centericeman Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
@PaulCat, Until such time as management realizes that we don’t have the forwards that can score, address the problem. We will be very LUCKY to make the playoffs and will lose quickly and decisivly to the first team we play.
As soon as this team gets behind by a goal, our prospects are very slim for victory, as soon as we get down by 2. the perverbial snowball stands a better chance!!
This team is inept at scoring and some, I say some, of the blame lies directly on our inability to recognize scoring talent and draft it!!
Old subject, but pertanient!!
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number 6 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
@centericeman,
and on and on and on and on and on
I think that was someone’s moniker on this site actually.
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Um….where is Brad Richardson?
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IStillBelieve Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:47 am
@Nick, Yes, we should now have 2 extra forwards not 1. Weird.
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wavesinair Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:48 am
@Nick,
Walking home?
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@wavesinair, LMAO ! Lol lol lol ! Outstanding blast waves, maybe your best!
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Elijah Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
@wavesinair, Cue the sad Hulk walking away music as he tries to hitch a ride in the rain.
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wavesinair Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
@Elijah,
Totally. David Banner aka Bill Bixby aka Brad Richardson. If only the Hulk could skate…
Michael J. Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@Nick,
On his way back to Colorado for a 2nd round pick???
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I’m sure Richards is THRILLED
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:46 am
@Kevin, I was JUST about to type something to this affect… linemates like that would def puch me towards the bottle…
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Kostamojen Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:46 am
@Kevin, I doubt Richards cares. Having King and Nolan on your wings ain’t much different than Penner and Stoll.
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@Kostamojen, hahaha- oh wait, it’s not funny, and you’re right.
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Kings4life Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@Kostamojen, At least the young guys will be able to skate and get to the dirty areas for him. Think that seccond line is just crazy enough to work
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adanac Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
@Kings4life, Agreed! They cannot be any worse than Penner and Stoll.
Harty Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Kevin, about two minor league players, really??
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Kevin Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
@Harty, Sarcasm police!
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Oz Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@Kevin, Why not? King/Nolan have more goals at Manchester than Penner/Stoll with the big club.
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Cruiznblue Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@Oz,
I agree. What is there to lose at this point. Put both new guys with Richards and see if anyone clicks.
Not like Penner/Stoll were doing great as Richards wingers anyways.
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NB22 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
@Kevin,
poor Richards. I really feel sorry for him. Why not putting Brown/Williams to his line? Kopi will be fine with those two
. What is up with the Kings and their lack of good talented wingers?
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DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
@NB22, it’s called DL’s 5 year plan
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NB22 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@DEH,
5 years for this? Wow …
DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@DEH, his idea of building a team is from the back then down the middle. Which he did, we are strong at goalie, Defense, and Center… just no wingers. And the slap in the face, he seems to have totally forgotten about that position. No wingers drafted, good wingers let go so we can sign more centers, good wingers traded and look at the minors… again no wingers. Should’ve built a balanced roster than a center/back heavy one.
DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@Kevin, we he’s finally playing with wingers who are playing on their actual wing and not converted centers or wingers playing the off wing (Penner is a right winger [see edm + ana], why we don’t play him on the right is beyond me).
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nykingfan Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@DEH,
Is that an excuse for playing without passion?
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DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
@nykingfan, passion isn’t the problem, I think every winger to the puck is passion. The problem is people being out of position hence not able to score.
In the Net Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
@nykingfan, I think passion is exactly the problem. If DP had passion he would work on his stamina more. I don’t care if he is a big “glider” like he has said, if he was working his legs like 99% of all the other hockey players in the league, he’d get into position more. Face it, he’s lazy.
DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@In the Net, so only penner can score? Last I checked there are a lot of player who aren’t scoring besides Penner.
Gary Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
@DEH, Uh… he played LW in ANA, with Getzlaf C, and Perry RW, as a 2nd line. Their top line was Kunitz-McDonald-Selanne. I think he played LW in EDM, also.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
@DEH, Maybe they’re looking for guys with guts and attitude to play with MR, since we just don’t have the skill and can’t go that direction. The big boys should give MR a sense of security. I hope. I got nothing else.
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Elijah Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@Kevin, This might just be crazy enough to potato!
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Holly Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@Kevin, I think this is a good thing. Those kids are going to be hungry. Could be just what he needs to get his scoring touch back.
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Deke'r Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
@Holly, …sure….now if only they were playing against AHL defencemen we be golden…
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number 6 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
@Kevin,
He isn’t thrilled. He’s delighted. It’s the queen’s english.
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Dean better be making a move NOW
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Deke'r Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
@Kevin, ….as in “the time is now”?…
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kingrussell Reply:
February 11th, 2012 at 12:42 am
@Kevin, To the unemployment line.
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This is the day that the screaming, angry, demanding Sutter should show his stripes.
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:50 am
@FKA PakiFro, +1
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NB22 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@FKA PakiFro,
agree. Come on Sutter, be a screaming machine!
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DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@FKA PakiFro, that’s why Richardson is not there, the pretty boy is too busy crying on the bus.
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I feel sorry for Richards…He now with Rookies…
Penner got demoted to a 4th liner…Pretty sad how that trade a waste….
Richards came here and i bet he wants out too.
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IceGuy Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
@KingsFanFTW,
At this point, I’m not so sure Richards is going to be that upset.
What were Penner and Stoll doing to help him out?
Not much.
So, if I’m Sutter, I pull Mike aside and challenge him; “Look, Mike, I know your year has been a big disappointment so far. No argument. So here’s the deal. Here’s two hungry guys playing their actual positions. You’ve been a Captain. Captain these guys. Teach ‘em the Game. Add these two guys to YOUR game, kick some ass and take some names. Smack ‘em upside the head if they don’t listen. Do what you gotta do, but you can do this. I know you can. Make me a Mike Richards Line. You got two weeks.”
I personally think Richards would respond to a challenge like that.
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
@IceGuy, that would be awesome! And it would put some added “captain”ing responsibility on MR, which might be just what he needs!
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Deke'r Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
@Stuart, …except for the fact he said when he came to LA he didn’t want the C….
Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
@Deke’r, a) Of course he’s going to say that, would it’ve been right if he would said I hope to have the C that is being worn by DB? NO.
b) My comment was refering to saddling him some “captain”ing (meaning captain-like, captain-ish, quasi-captain) responsibilty so that he feels a bigger claim to the team and it would be my hopes that he would be more emotionally invested in its well-doing…
Has anyone else noticed 3 out of our 4 best forwards are on the first line?
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
@Jeffreyryan, Anyone else notice that 2 out of our 3 first liners don’t belong on the first line?
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NB22 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@Helvetica,
yep, especially the guy who wears the letter “C”.
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number 6 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
@Helvetica….
wrt to what you say about players cut out for first line duty; to me it’s an indictment of Dean Lombardi. I do Not like harping on about this, but it’s rather a fact.
Kopi and Brown were already here when he arrived almost six years ago.
Consider; in not even three years, Brian Burke made moves and created a flying first line in Toronto. In spite of the criticism for what he gave up to get Kessel, he now has a fantastic first line w Lupol.
The Kings still don’t have a legit first line after five years of a build? I don’t know how he can’t be held accountable for that. Given that we already had Kopi, and he got JW who is acceptable as a 1a first liner, how he could not fill in with either a first line left wing or right wing is completely and utterly beyond me.
DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@Helvetica, Brown is a third liner and Williams is a second liner.
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
@DEH, That’s sort of how i see them too. Williams is a 2nd line guy that can jump up to 1st line for short stretches. Brown is a 3rd line guy that can handle 2nd line duties. Neither of them is trully cut out for first line duties in my mind.
Gary Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@DEH, Anyone notice how little Kopitar scores 5-on-5, or how little he really makes players around him better?
DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@Gary, that’s why I’ve been saying Kopitar should play the wing with Richards centering. Give Stoll second line center duties. Kopitar can finish, Richards can be the playmaker. Once you get Kopi in the finisher mindset and not the set-up man he will perform much better.
MindGeyser Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@Helvetica, What’s your definition of a first liner? Are there 90 of them in the NHL?
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
@MindGeyser, My definition? Come on man. You look at Brown and Williams and tell me you think they BELONG in the top 3. Williams to me is a fill in on first line, and Brown should clearly be down on the 2nd line. They play on the 1st line because they are our best wingers, but that speaks more to our depth at the forward position than it does to their ability.
That’s Owen Nolan on the wing right? Thanks DL!
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fuzzerson Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@Jgomez, How long till Jeff Friesen and Vincent Damphousse show up? I guess Murray Craven wasnt available.
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@fuzzerson, heck, I’d take Wes Craven…
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Gary Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
@Jgomez, So Dancing Boy is finally right! Nolan is a King!
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Let the Feb trade fun stuff begin. Need to get rid of about 4 players. Take the C away from brown
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looks like DS not very happy with Penner. where have I seen this before?
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Penner on the 4th line. That’s funny. It’s not even a demotion because he makes that line worse.
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variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@wavesinair,
penner is on the 4th line because there isn’t a 5th line…
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wavesinair Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
@variable,
Classic. Well, we shall see if a certain toofless, happy-go-lucky player gets scratched…
After all, it’s a 10am game and we all know what Penz is going to be doing at that time.
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deadcatbounce Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@variable, But he’s been playing like he’s been part of the fifth column…
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
@variable, Wait, if there’s no fifth line what happened to Richardson?
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variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@Kenny44,
he might be heading into the fifth sense, as in tasting the pine…
richardson is the reincarnation of craig johnson…although, cj had 17 and 21 for us back in ’97-98, so maybe i’m being too hard – on cj…
when richardson arrive from colorado, i thought he would surprise many and produce well for us…
sadly, another one of my predictions has gone astray, just like harold camping’s…
number 6 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
@variable,
bah da da…..
and now for our next act ladies and gentlemen
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@wavesinair, Whats sad is, I wonder if King and Nolan could do any worse then what we have seen out of that second line already?
I guess we will find out very shortly.
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wavesinair Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@puck73,
I doubt DS would put them in if he thought they’d be a liability on defense especially. They must have impressed down on the farm.
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Sad thing is, of the 13 forwards listed, plus Parse, Stoll and Richardson. I’d keep only 8 going forward:
Brown, Kopitar, Williams, Richards, Clifford, Westgarth (for muscle), Parse (one last chance), Lotionov (Still young).
That leaves a lot of holes and sums up why we can’t score. We have a first and fourth line, no third line, and 1/3 of a second line.
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variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Jeff,
i’d keep fraser around…
i don’t think parse will get another shot with us…
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tornado12 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
@variable, i hope they resign him but for a cheap deal. it cant hurt right? I would hate to see him go elsewhere and thrive
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variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
@tornado12,
i imagine yr referring to parse…i just wonder if he’s ever gonna be the same again physiologically, let alone, being able to skate well again…he now has both hips replaced, so he’s inching closer to being the six-million dollar man, only in regards to medical costs, not proven talent or contract-value…it’s a shame, because like many on here, i thought parse was good for about 20-30 goals this season…i hope he can live a normal life…anything else he accomplishes is a bonus at this point…
Michael J. Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@variable,
Hips replaced? Who does he think he is? Bo Jackson?
I thought he had surgery, not replacements. In that case he’s the $60,000,000 man!
IceGuy Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@tornado12,
If you wanted to give the guy a “last chance”, sign him to a TWO WAY $500,000 contract, with incentives. He’s going to have to find his game again, if he can, and he should do that in Manchester. Maybe he can come up, but he’s got to agree to go back down.
If I’m Parse I take the deal, gladly, just for the health insurance!
variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
@Michael J,
hehe…
sorry…yr right…
surgery, not replacement…
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Jeffreyryan Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@Jeff, not brown, we need a leader. Not williams, he’s on the downhill. Kopi is Houdini. Richards and clifford I agree with. Not westgarth. So only two would I keep.
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
@Jeff, haha… Parse? Come on.
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DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@Jeff, agreed, many might disagree with parse but parse is a finisher. Look at his shot percentage. If he stayed healthy he could Matt Moulson this Beeotch and become a 30 goal scorer.
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@DEH, change the -er to -ed and you’re probably a bit more accurate…
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DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
@Stuart, will you be saying that when he lights it up on another team?
Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@DEH, nope, because there won’t be another team for him to go too… who’s going to pay a player that hasn’t finished a season…EVER and has degenerating hip issues?
we are so offensively inept, it’s offensive…
(whoa, i just blew my mind)…
amazingly, we are still in the playoff picture…heck, we are still in the hunt for a division title mathematically…
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
@variable, The Kings have just iced the best AHL squad in NHL history.
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variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@Helvetica,
i don’t think we have sunken that far yet…but we seem to be getting closer and closer…
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
@variable, Yeah i was stretching things a bit. But, once you get to the forward group… wow.
I hope dl is appalled at the team he has put together. It’s really embarrassing
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wavesinair Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:55 am
@Jeffreyryan,
Sadly, this reality is really starting to set in. There’s a number of excellent hockey minds involved with this club but, unfortunately, there’s something very wrong with this team. I have an idea, but I’m not going to say it.
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Jeffreyryan Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@wavesinair, it’s the owners/ management. They don’t give a rats tail end about this team, and they will continue to be employed because we as fans think this is an acceptable product to put on the ice.
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variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@wavesinair,
why not…?
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tornado12 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
@wavesinair, say it! inquiring minds want to know.
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wavesinair Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
There were generally two schools of thought before TM got the axe. I was of the opinion if one of the two changed, it would make a difference… and it has for the most part. But I think the other thing needs to be changed too. I’m thinking there will be a BIG change sooner rather than later… and I welcome it.
Read between the lines.
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@wavesinair, They’re going to replace RH with HE??? NOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
Michael J. Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@wavesinair,
A certain young defenseman with a $56,000,000 contract?
Oh, you must mean off the ice…
variable Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
@wavesinair,
re: dl…
it goes back to how “measurable” and “significant” improvement is defined by tim “i won’t take this type of offensive performance” lei-”ing down” weke and AEG…(okay, that was stretch…(!))…
the only thing that makes sense to me in achieving such a desired goal is making it out of the first round…
Baahahahahahahahaha….THE TIME IS NOW! THIS IS THE TEAM YOUVE BEEN WAITING FOR! They really need to pull those ads…
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@Doughty2Simmonds, UHHH, YAH ! ya think?
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IceGuy Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@Doughty2Simmonds,
And lose the Home Plate sweaters while you’re at it.
The Marketing Team that supported that switch probably did the scouting for the Penner trade.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
@Doughty2Simmonds, Really!!
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poor pens – hero to zero in 2 days
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Kingsfan602 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@petemagoop, he aint poor. He makes a healthy 4 mil a year
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nykingfan Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@petemagoop,
amazingly he did it all by himself!
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Deke'r Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
@nykingfan, ….LOL!….yeah…apparently he has a greater effect on this team than most give him credit for….
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Not sure about the lines, BUT I’m not in charge, lets see what everyone does.
I hope Jordan does well, he will play a crash and bang style. It does take some games to get comfortable though.
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:57 am
@Harty, He has no fear, thats for sure. Lets see if the kid can finish or cause distractions that allow others to finish at this level though.
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Harty Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@puck73, nice thing is, another reason for to watch the Kings he’s my cousin’s boy. Oh ya……get it going kid.
Remember to pass to Cliffy though……
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@Harty, Is your cousin Ted? just curious…
Harty Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
@Harty, Ted’s wife Sandra is my 1st cousin.
I sure hope Jordan has a great outing, Cliffy and him on each side of Lotkionov could allow Lotki to play awefully big in the middle.
We will see……..
Honestly, looking at our forwards you’d guess we were battling for the top pick in the upcoming draft. Thank goodness for a top-5 D and top-3 goalie.
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ironic that we are playing the wangers tomorrow since this lineup reminds me of one of theirs from 2008-09…
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I like to see coaches and management at least trying something different to improve scoring. Can’t blame them for that. I’m not worried about M Richards, he is not a rookie. He knows sometimes you’re the windshield and sometimes you are the bug.
Does this smells like B Rishardson, J Stoll (and Bernier??) may be traded before this road trip is over?
Stay tuned, bloggers..:)
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Gustavo Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
@Gustavo,
OK, scratch Stoll. He is injured. Can’t be traded.
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How the F is this team even in the playoff hunt? There’s like 4-5 bona fide NHL’ers in that forward group. I didnt know it was possible to compete in the NHL icing just a goalie and and defensive corp.
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Gmo Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@Helvetica,
QUICK has kept the Kings in the hunt. Without Quick we would be bottom feeders
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@Gmo, Clearly.
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Kevco Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@Helvetica, just wait until the end of the month, they will be in the correctplace in the standing, 9th place working their way to 10th.
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trytodethroneus Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
@Kevco,
Is that something that you might wager on? Just curious.
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Maybe Dean should have offered Moller and Holloway a 1-way deal? Nice depth he has built in 6 years…
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Jeffreyryan Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
@Sydor25, I’m keeping my fingers crossed he loses his job.
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jacky boy Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
@Jeffreyryan, The NHL doesnt want the Kings to win… They have set it up so the Kings loose. We sell corporate tix regardless so their is no incentive for the NHL to make the Kings a winning team. They do have incentive to make teams like Phoenix, Dallas, and Colorado win.
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
@Sydor25, Moller and Holloway are laughing their asses of right now.
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the dude Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
@Helvetica,
no they are not. they are kicking themselves. they would be in the NHL right now if they had stayed.
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@the dude, exactly… after reading that article that someone posted the other day, I would’nt doubt that Bud has reached out to his agent by now…
Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
@the dude, If they were interested in playing for this team they would have stuck around.
Michael J. Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
@the dude,
Yup, right about now they are probably regretting their decisions to live in the ice cold Skelleftea, Sweden where it’s going to be a balmy 20 degrees all week.
http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/SWXX0025
While youre at it Dean you may as well send Lokti down and let Vey center the third line
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
@DBking, I wonder how Vey would do at this level? Interesting.
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Only on the Kings can two guys from the AHL be called up for the first time this year and end up on the second line.
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Just when Mike Richards thought it couldn’t get any worse…
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@deadcatbounce, Mike needs a drink…for that matter, so do I after the last 2 losses !
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deadcatbounce Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@puck73, Just as long as he’s not drinking with his old buddy, Carter.
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CabbagesAndKings Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
@puck73, In Philly they thought Richards was insane for drinking before games. In LA, he’d be insane not to.
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Please…. Sit hunter.
Funny to see some of the comments on this page. We lose a couple games and the sky is falling. HA.
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
@KingsGuy, Totally. I think we should recall Moreau. His presence has been greatly missed on the powerplay! lol lol
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TeamJMFJ Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
@puck73, baaaaaahahahahahaha!!!!
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@KingsGuy, The sky is not falling but the rearview mirror is full of headlights. GO KINGS GO!!!
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KingsGuy Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
@Forum Gold, with their HID high beams on, counting the hairs on our head!
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purple and gold Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@KingsGuy, The Waffling on Mr. Pancakes is getting pretty hilarious.
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Kenny44 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@KingsGuy, That 4th line better not be on the ice together . . . ever! Fraser doesn’t have the wheels or puck possession skills to overcome the dead weight on his wings. Disaster waiting to happen.
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@KingsGuy, This isn’t an issue of having lost a couple games. LOOK at that forward group and tell me it doesn’t look like a disaster.
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KingsGuy Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
@Helvetica, Don’t worry it’s just a practice. LOL. I realllly am hoping these will not be the line combos come Sat.
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Helvetica Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
@KingsGuy, Those may not be the line combos, but they didn’t call those guys up for nothing. They will be playing. So even if Penner gets bumped back up to 1st/2nd line, i cant say im thrilled about icing 2 guys from AHL at the 2/3rds marks of the season, neither of whom have seen any ice time in the NHL this season. I mean seriously, Stare at that offensive group and tell me you feel good about it. I mean anything can happen and maybe some fresh faces will do this team some good, but… look at that.
Something is a brewing boys…Dean is still with the club and we are in the big apple..
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
@lakingbob(chi), The only thing thats brewing right now is some of Mike Richards home made swill.
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by the end of the week Lokti is in Manchester and Cliche is the third line center.
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Kevco Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
@DEH, it friday, the week is over, we still cant score, same as the friday before and the friday before that, and the friday before that.
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DEH Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@Kevco, changes being made this week
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Deke'r Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
@DEH, ….I’ll keep my fingers crossed….
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I want to see DS show up behind the bench Saturday without a sportcoat and get down to business. Someone needs step up. The Kingdom deserves it. GO KINGS GO!!!
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
@Forum Gold, Just heard from reliable sources that AEG will announce on Saturday in Long Island that they will hire Bill Torrey as the new GM and Al Arbour will be hired as head coach..REACTION?
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
@puck73, furious!!! Because Magic got off with time served…
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@Stuart, Magic is still in trouble with the African American community in Los Angeles because of this. He is not out of the woods by a long shot !
Forum Gold Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
@puck73, Can we also get #19 to come out of the Islander TV booth? GO KINGS GO!!!
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puck73 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@Forum Gold, I will celebrate the occasion by wearing an autographed Bill Torrey Bowtie at the press conference.
Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
@Forum Gold, did you notice his tie all crooked at the beginning of yesterday’s game? I thought he had let the boys know that he wanted them ready…
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@Stuart, I thought they were clip-ons. GO KINGS GO!!!
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lakingbob(chi) Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@Stuart, All most looked like he just got in from South Beach ..
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@lakingbob(chi), total morning-after-bender look LOL
Everyone agreed we would beat the panthers, now everyone thinks were going to lose with these new guys.
I say 4-0 kings with Nolan and King both getting a point.
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Forum Gold Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@Lake Forest, +1. GO KINGS GO!!!
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California Royalty Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
@Lake Forest, Both a point? I say don’t lose another game all year including playoffs.
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Lake Forest Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
@California Royalty, being on the same line, i’d say they will
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Wow!
These are two 6′ 3″ 230 pounders.
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Worse 4 lines in DLl,s time here
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Does anyone else feel like we are auditioning the call ups for other teams?
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DanielC Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
@PG24, I feel the same..so the teams can see how they are in the bigs.
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DanielC Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
@PG24, I feel the same..so the teams can see how they are in the bigs.
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PG24 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
@DanielC, Don’t see much of a return for 3rd/4th line guys like this. I hope they prove me wrong. Thought they might bring up “scoring talent” like Kozun, Vey or even Monarchs point leader, Cliche. Best of luck to the call-ups. God save the Kings!
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Hate to say it, but I’m at the point of wanting a major shake up. It may be time to move a quality top 4 D man and get a proven top 4 O man in return. Remember when the Sharks make a similar move to get Thornton?
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Why keep Brown on the 1st line? He is just taking touches away from Kopitar. Many times Brown tries to carry the puck in the zone and more often then not makes poor decisions. What results next is usually a turnover or a very short possesion in the O zone. Move Brown away from the 1st line and into the 2nd. He seems to defer the puck to Richards when he is there.
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This team does not have enough “finishers” not since palffy, demitra, fro era..This is where players should be in relation to their abilities.
1) ____ Kopitar ____
2) ____ Richards Williams
3) Brown Stoll Penner
4) Clifford Lokti Lewis
We are still short 2-3 top 6 wingers…we need to go hard for parise next year. 3 time is a charm DL…
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Mikey Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
@FvKingsFan,
Those blanks will never be completely filled in with that 7m cloud hanging over this teams head.
If you’re gonna spend that kind of money on a player, it better be for Quick
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NB22 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@FvKingsFan,
I agree that Brown is NOT a 1st line talent, but somewhere between 2nd/3rd line. What is up with this organisation and developing/trading good wingers? I thought Penner would be awesome, but 5 goals this season for a 2nd line winger is awful.
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number 6 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
@NB22,
Our GM is what’s up. He prefers to concentrate for the moment on defensemen and goalies and centermen. And to his credit, those positions are doing pretty well.
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If that lineup of “forwards” isn’t enough to get DL fired, I don’t know what will. It would be laughable if it weren’t so sad.
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Not Laughing!!! We complained enough to get TM fired. Let’s start an out with DL campaign.
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2 rookies on the 2nd line! The circus of a season continues… I’m really not all that surprised. Maybe it’ll work.
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NB22 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
@California Royalty,
I hope, but It won’t.
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It will be interesing how Sutter works his matchups. The Richards line has been used to defend against the other teams top line — but I can’t see counting on two callups to be the shutdown line.
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NB22 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@CabbagesAndKings,
Last game Richards was -3. What do you think It will happen? Kopi will have to play like last year. Agains the top lines. Probably.
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nice to see a move that indicates that kings management sees that this team isn’t what anyone expected it to be. i thought they might go the whole year without doing anything (besides the coaching change) to try to get this team clicking. i’ll be cheering the new guys on saturday, hoping they can bring a spark that this team needs to wake up the scoring.
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This is a roll of the dice to doubt. But how can u guys be mad at dl? He put together a team with 6 players who SHOULD have scored 20+ each and parse and stoll shouod have been good for 15 ish. He built from the back and our d and goalies is top notch. In my mind he’s responsible for getting the pieces and installing an overall philosophy of play style (defense first). Nobody here or anywhere in the hockey world would have predicted the individual players on the team to have such horrid numbers. In my mind it has nothing to do with dl. The players and coaches are responsible for the end product on the ice. Dean has done a great job at what he is responsible for doing, putting the pieces together.
Now I’m not happy with the players numbers, the injuries, the lack of backup talent to fill in at forwards, and the lack of effort shown in games often times but out of all that the only thing that’s dl’s fault is the lack of backup forwards. So I feel our position is mostly on the shoulders of the players and coaching staff. Not dl. But hey we are still knocking on the door of first in the pacific so it could be worse
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He Shoots, He Scores Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
@Cortex949,
I agree with you to an extent, but when you look at the decisions he’s made, you can point to short-term mistakes concerning judgment.
Penner, unless he miraculously helps us in the playoffs this year, has been a huge mistake. Hickey hasn’t worked out so far, Teubert is gone, both high 1st round picks. Smyth not his fault, but instead of Gagne, could have gone with Fleischmann or even Versteeg.
When you look at some of the waiver-wire guys, Nystrom having a great year in Dallas, Brule pitching in with Phoenix.
In his defense, Dean’s sticking with his guys. Moreau should have worked out, Gagne was always a question mark (health-wise), but the book isn’t closed on that one. The Richards trade should still be considered a good trade, most expected more out of Clifford/Lewis/Richardson/Loktionov, – hard to predict that these guys wouldn’t get lucky every once in a while.
Let’s hope Toffoli pans out, Bernier nets us a usable forward, we fill some holes in the offseason, and Quick doesn’t leave us at the altar.
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rick Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
@Cortex949, The real problem as I see it is that there is no Plan B. Guys like Penner and Gagne were known risks from day one. Sure, it all looked good on paper, but there has to be some top 6 depth in case things don’t work out. THAT is where Lombardi has failed miserably. The very fact that the call ups to play with a center like Richards are two grinders from the minors speaks volumes.
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number 6 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
@rick,
Agree with you that it looked good on paper, but you can’t make moves based on what looks good on paper.
You can also flip it on it’s head. Steve Yzerman knew that Gagne was a huge risk based on this inability to stay healthy so he offered only a one year contract. That means, while he couldn’t be certain, that he felt it not worth the risk.
A lot of the Edmonton press complained about Penner as did many of the fans…..even while he scored goals for them. I wonder why they would have complained about Penner. Oh, now we know.
You’ve gotta be Careful when you make moves. I can see the Gagne move. A risk but why not. But Penner for TWO FIRSTS (Teubert + 2011) and a third? Really, you’ve gotta be kidding me.
Toffoli is encouraging, BUT keep in mind that he’s a center…. and a small guy. So, either someone leaves in the center group (Lokti, for whom they won’t get anything – I don’t know too many players who will bring back assets w/o scoring a goal)…. or…. they move Toffoli to wing and misuse yet another asset. Didn’t work with Oscar Moller.
You can’t make this stuff up.
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I would scratch Penner tomorrow since he gift wrapped the game winning goal to the Panthers last night.
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Interesting UFAs in the offseason:
Parise – would be awesome, but probably not happening
Semin – take a chance on a mini-Penner? No thanks.
Huselius – recently made of glass, can’t afford to have him and Gagne on the same team
Doan – would love to have this guy on a two year deal
Hemsky – another injury-prone guy, but could see him fitting in
Selanne – dream on.
Blake – could see him in a 3rd line role
Ruutu – eh, if we’ve got space
Jagr – not happening
Whitney – good fit, in favor on a 1 or two year deal
Kostitsyn – talented, but baggage is a turnoff
Hejduk – not happening
Jokinen – don’t see an obvious fit, although LA is filled with McDonald’s
Grabovski – my absolute favorite on the market – please sign this guy!
Hudler – would be a great under-the-radar signing
Langenbrunner – eh…
Arnott – still got some game
Jones – take a risk with a question mark?
Winnik – good possession guy, big body
Moen – good 3rd line guy
Brodziak – another great 3rd line guy
Dvorak – having a great season, but how long can he do it for?
Thornton – love the toughness, want as a 4th line guy
Lesser guys and over-the-hillers: Kelly, Brunette, Knuble, Bertuzzi, Stempniak, Holmstrom, Sullivan, Prust
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Harty Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
@He Shoots, He Scores, great post and great list…….
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I think I finally have a handle on this team. The players we have can not core in this system of play. When players (Moulson, Purcell, Simmonds, Schenn) go to clubs with a better, more aggressive offensive style their talent to score can come through. We are supposed to be the Flyers west? BS. Watch a Flyers game. They are magnitudes more aggressive offensively than we are. The style we play died during the lockout. Now someone needs to tell Jamie Kompon.
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He Shoots, He Scores Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@LAK1ngs,
Not just the Flyers, pretty much every other team has forwards that crash the net hard. Our guys just dribble around the 3 point line.
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Anyone going to be on Long Island Saturday? Besides me?
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Deke'r Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
@Phoolish Move, ….I would guess… yes?….
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Phoolish Move Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
@Deke’r, Touche.
Any Kings fans going to the game Saturday?
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Don’t worry about Richards. He is a winner. Penner is a total loser and Stoll past his prime apparently.
I’d sure rather have Richards working with these kids developement than just about anyone else in the organization.
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I bet in his wildest dream, Richards did not see playing with 2 AHL players. DS is out of his mind! And sending Voinov to AHL is another proof that Kings organization doesn’t like European players. A trully believe, that one of the reasons why Kings can not score goal, is because they has no Europeans players. The only one on a team is Anze Kopitar. Ang guess what? He is a best Kings player! But he is the only one (I don’t count Lokti, he is a rookie) All elite teams have european players. Just look at Vancouver, Detroit, Boston,Pittsburgh and so on…
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Stuart Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
@Mike V., omg that’s the equivalent of pulling the race card in an arguement…
Please! Voynov was the only player that was able to move up and down freely without being subjected to the wavier wire…
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PG24 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
@Stuart, Voynov being sent down to the AHL was because he is waiver-exempt. He’ll be back, hopefully after the Kings make a move… Wishful thinking.
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Team shoud put best player on the ice, not the one who can or cannot be moved somewhere. Thats a stupid excuse. …It’s not a race card. It’s a reality. Prove me wrong. But withou europeans, there is no creativity, just dump’n'chase. Who is the most creative player on a Kings roster? Kopitar! Why? Read above….
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rick Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
@Mike V., Please tell me you are not serious. The Kings have had plenty of Europeans – they even had one as a captain for years (ever heard of Mattias Norstrom?). I generally don’t respond to insulting comments like yours, but rules are made to be broken…..
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number 6 Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
@rick,
Rick, I totally see where he’s coming from. He’s stipulating that now the Kings don’t go w Europeans. VV and Lokti are Russian. Kopi was drafted by DT and isn’t actually European I believe. So there is a lot of truth to that.
Of course they had Europeans, but I can’t remember the last Scandinavian DL drafted with the exception of Oscar Moller.
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You would think that Penner would be embarrassed at the way he’s playing and that he’s now in danger of being dropped to the 4th line or the press box. He had the skills to score in the NHL (at least he did a few years ago) but the desire/heart/hustle isn’t there. How can this guy not be motivated to bust his rear every shift, especially in the final year of his contract? I don’t get him but I can’t wait until July 1st when his contract expires. Hope he has saved his money because I don’t see him making anywhere near $4 million/year in the future.
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I think that if the LA Kings recalled King and 2nd rookie was playing for the 2nd line can the LA Kings will win Tomorrow for sure and we need to give Quick a day off rest for tomorrow’s game against the Islanders and give Bernier for a chance to start in Goal against Islanders and Quick will start in Goal at Dallas for a 3:00pm game so what do you think
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penner-fraser-richardson COULD be interesting…
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Waiting for the Nash deal to get done. The cap space can be done. We Need scoring. He wants to move. We have players that they have interest in. Are we waiting for Phoenix and Dallas and… to pass us up? Come on DL, pull the trigger!!!
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I’m not wasting my time watching this pathetic team put zeros on the board anymore. Looking at that second line makes me sick to my stomach, this is what its come down to? This team isnt making the playoffs and I hope Lombardi gets canned, can anyone name one good move this guys made? I’m sick of getting pissed off watching this team learn nothing from their mistakes, cant pass and cant score and that’s not going to change as long as we keep this current group of players. I have the mentality that this team is going to lose every game for the remainder of the season so that I don’t get upset when it comes true. Its been a great year, adios.
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