With 58 points through 50 games, the Kings are on pace for 95 points. Is that enough to make the playoffs? In recent seasons, yes, for the most part. Since the start of the 2005-06 season, and the advent of three-point games, the eighth-place team in the Western Conference has finished with the following point totals: 95, 96, 91, 91, 95 and 97. The eye-opener is last season, when Dallas finished with 95 points and finished in ninth place, two points behind Chicago.
For the Kings to get to 97 points, they would need 39 points in their last 32 games, the equivalent of a 19-12-1 record. And, as Darryl Sutter points out, it’s not simply a race to a certain number. It’s also about holding off teams, from ninth to 12th place, that are currently very much in striking distance of the top eight.
SUTTER: “The tough part is, though, you’re going right through 12, and possibly 13 with Anaheim being really hot. With the parity, or whatever you want to call it, it’s really hard. We’re seeing three-point games, three or four times a night. So how do you really know what that number is?
“That number, we could sit down and do it and say, `That looks like the number,’ but I don’t know what it is. The better way to look at it, at the start of the year, is to say you know you need 100 points. That assures you, right? Everything else, you might be one (point) out. It’s a tough thing. I think that’s a good way to look at it, when you go into the start of the season, to say you need 100. Because then you know you’re safe, and that might win your division, depending on how teams do. Some divisions, that wins it easy. Some divisions, you’re fighting for it right to the end.’’
20-11-2 record gets us to 100 pts and probably a Pacific division lead. Hey it could happen!
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I Predicted 13 games over .500 a month ago. Might take 13 1/2 with all the points the Kings keep giving all the teamns they play.
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jess Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
@Dominick, We sure have been generous -haven’t we?
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USHA#17 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
@Dominick,
Footnote: I believe there is no official moratorium on trades over the all-star break…
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Marty's Fists Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 1:55 am
@Dominick, As I predicted based on past seasons, when the Kings don’t do good in the first 1/3 of a season they usually finish their best. The lack of scoring does have me worried though. Let’s face reality. Stoll’s shot has gone soft, and his game has gone timid. I don’t expect any production from him until playoffs. Kopitar is on the right track as is Williams and Brown. Kopitar, Williams, and Brown need to sharpen timing and spacing and entering the zone with a 3rd man high drop pass. I think after the break Richards will start producing better numbers. The rest will do him good. Penner is playing OK, but he cannot be counted on to score goals, so he must be thought of as a non factor with a possible upside surprise. Clifford might surprise us here and there but needs to apply focus to his energy. Hunter will be a reliable player but no breakthrough. Doughty is probably adjusting to being filthy rich which is distracting him and he is making 4th line rookie errors on defense. Doughty please no more passing to the opposing team entering the blue line please! Upside is his offensive skills are showing why he is worth the big bucks, the kids got some sick moves. Mitchell A+ , Greener B, Scudds A, Martinez C, Voynoy A- (some bad mistakes but good rookie year) Jonathan Quick A+++
Finally,
All of offense: Needs to stop playing “lets do nothing but pass it along the boards and blue line until we turn it over” I’ve never seen a team do this it’s so sad to watch. We were dropping off in front net presence last 3 games so that is a concern. 2nd attempt efforts are good but need guys (plural) in the crease/slot at the right times. Also move to the puck when it is loose do not wait for it to come to you this is why the other team beats you to it.
All of defense: Needs to get puck up ice much more quickly, needs to clear puck when easily can, and not rely on “Quick will save us” mentality.
Good night
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Sounds like a good number to me..
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Somehow I think 19-12-1 is unlikely…perhaps more like 16-12-7…
Then again, I’m hoping the close down a lot more games in the second half, and Sutter’s had more impact in that regard, it seems.
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Dominick Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, At the rate we’re going, it might end up 13-6-13.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
@Dominick, You know, I was thinking my skew factor might not have been bold enough!
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Kings will likely need 97 because they will probably lose all the tie-breakers (like most wins).
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5holer Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
@BluLiner, To get there by game 82 team will need to score that many goals(97) in the remaining 32 games! Is that likely with this forwards group? Not on your life without some imported help from outside IMO! Keeping their current pace of goals for the rest of the way, it would play out at about 70-75 goals for…Quick will have to be as good or better the 2nd half to make it at that pace! Doubtful to ask for that from him the rest of the way! Need a full time shrink on Sutter’s staff for the forwards alone!…and another one for the PP units!…I would suggest some hypnosis for them all, with subliminal messages in their ears at all times saying..go to the net hard and shot the dam biscuit!..and, selfish is good for the team boys!..and lastly, one more message saying, forget those unlikely “sauce passes”, no sauce or no goals = no play-offs! Dangling on the edge to make it!
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Dominick Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
@5holer,
Kings are capable of scoring 80. They shoot just as many shots as most offensively gifted teams now, but their shooting percentages are the lowest in the league. That had a lot to do with the Kings shooting from the perimeter most of the time under Murray.
Sutter is working on getting more shots from the middle of the ice, but hasn’t fully had enough time to implamented a complete change. We are seeilng a vast improvement in the quality of the shots, but because we’re still in a transitional phase, results haven’t quite surfaced. The shot differential, and quality have though.
In the 2nd 1/2 (not technically 1/2, but who’s counting?) if the Kings could bring up that shooting percentage to say 5, or even 8 percent per game by playoff time, the Kings will be a force to be rekoned with, and a favorite to win it all (considering their defense is 1 of the best in the league).
DL is looking at trade options to improve things also, but may not need a superstar. Next couple of blocks of games will tell if Sutters consistant improvements will be enough to ride out this slump in scoring.
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USHA#17 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
@Dominick,
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January 27th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
@Dominick,
They may shoot “as much” but a lot of the number your looking at was generated during the Murray “Perimeter Era” so let look at the next factor; hands.
How many Kings have great hands, like say the Wings, Philly or Vancouver? Maybe we can just skip to the 26 teams with more goals then LA.
LA_1968 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
@USHA#17, To me it isn’t hands so much as it is the speed of the moving of the puck in the offensive zone in five-on-five. When you watch good teams from around the league their five-on-five looks like the Kings power play. The five-on-five for the Kings looks slower than everything else. I’m not talking about cycling either.
Dominick Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 9:44 am
@USHA#17,
Hands have proven to be better in the past for many players. Almost every players numbers are down. That leads me to believe that it is a common theme, not an individual one. Mike Richards has great hands, and yet, his numbers are down like everybody elses.
Does that mean he has always sucked, and somehow overachieved before he got here, or that his teammates have somehow effected him being able to shoot strait? I think not.
A crappy game plan is a crappy game plan. You can put great players in it, and fill it to the top with super stars, but at the end of the day only plan to grind, and play defense, it’s a crappy plan.
If you don’t use them offensively, then why blame them when they don’t score? Unless your arguement is that Terry Murray did use them properly offensively. Then we’ve hit a fork in the road.
crashin'da net Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
@Dominick, Spot on Dom! More shots from dangerous places. What happened to the erlier games where we had nice tip/redirects for winners?? They are slowly coming back but they were missing for awhile now. Quality over mass quantity. Last couple of games we saw nive tips/redirect attempts again from Stoll, Fraser, Penner, Richards, and even Cliffy. These are high quality chances. We should be practicing the heck out of them. These goals gives us confidence and confidence allows us to be more creative while not strangling the stick (cementation).
And again, given our great D, even a small increase in GPG gets us a W in many of games. We need Richards to get back to normal. When he’s on, the whole team gets creative and hot. Great to see 3rd and 4th line scoring again. Gotta get the top 2 lines going. Williams working hard, playing selfish – just snake bit it seems. lokti trying to score, playing selfish, not even close to finishing.
Make a trade. Move Lokti out or down.
And of course, get the boys some screening lessons.
By my count, we’ve got 8 games left against the 8-12 seeds. That includes 5 in a row between Feb-12 and Feb-22. And the other 32 games left, well, we got to win those too. Hehe
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LA_1968 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
@LA_1968, Err…the other 24 games left, ….
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Niko Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
@LA_1968, and 13 against seeds 1-6
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According to Sutter..the rest of the season depends on the schedule and officiating….(And injuries)…so after rebuiding this team…the second half is really out of our hands….The Kings dont control injuries,officials and the schedule……..
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number 6 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
@neil,
Neil, I know that you and I, as we see things similarly, can stoke eachothers fires. That’s not the intent here. But I think I get what you’re saying. Had DL not had such an adverse reaction to drafting a few forwards (other than Oscar Moller, or smurfs like Kozun and Acevedo hoping to catch lightning in a bottle), probably we’d have at least one forward by now who is somewhat consistent wrt scoring goals and also could benefit from having three really good playmaking centers on the team. If we got Mike Richards To Be a goal scorer, than that was misplaced. His game is based on being well rounded.
Anyway, perhaps that could have upped their average GF by 0.4 overall, even less, but which would have led to even two or three more wins. I Seriously doubt that having one forward like that would cause the defense to implode. So therefore, the team (as Rich mentioned in an earlier post) has put itself in a situation where it’s last thirty games 0.3 to make the playoffs. Not that they’d be a shoein otherwise, but another win or two would certainly have eased the pressure with the big road trips coming and then a terribly difficult month of March.
Oh well, nevermind. I suppose I make reference to it often these days…. but to be clear, for the first four years I was a huge DL supporter. Now I think he’s in a bit of a corner in terms of what to do to push the team beyond where they are now.
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neil Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
@number 6, I just find it sad as a Kings fan that after 5 and half years of rebuiding the team(Minors included)that Sutter mentioned that the Kings are going to need help to make the playoffs cause of the schedule,injuries and refs(His words)Its frustrating to even read a story about how the Kings can finish anywhere from third to 9th….By this point the Kings should be a top 4 team…worring about home ice and who we are going to play…not talking about how if we dont play well we can finish 9th…Do you think that S.J.,Van, Detroit etc are thinking about NOT making the playoffs…
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Marty's Fists Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 2:06 am
@neil, It’s reverse psychology bro think about it. What he is saying is it’s not about them, but as a professional athlete goes, they think it’s all about them. This is his way of psychologically getting the Kings to believe in themselves. Same trix the media uses to put us all to sleep. lol
Open question! Should anyone expect this team, as this roster is constituted right now today, to be able to score 3 goals a game average? If you say yes, then on what basis do you arrive at that conclusion? If you say, as I do, then it will be close to impossible to keep a play off spot let alone move up to challenge for the Division lead. Let’s see we have Quick….Oh yeah, we also have Quick…and BTW we do have Quick!… Fact #1: Every single forward (all 12-14, counting reserves & IRs) having years well below their average in goals and point production. No mystery why either! No selfish forwards on the team…no shoot first everything else last mentality in place. Cannot score goals = cannot win hockey games, play-offs especially! Without some imported help up front via acquisitions outside the organization (or an epiphany of 12 forwards in 2nd half…Ha Ha!), there will likely be No Play-offs IMHO. There should be no player too sacred to give up in the right deal. How can anyone say that any XYZ player is untouchable with the dismal record in last 3 play-offs…and need I remind you, this team has digressed in 3 successive years in regular season points in the standings since making Play-off grade as a team! No fooling around here just the straight facts! Organizationally, it has been all Defense and Goaltending since the Lombardi era began 5 years ago….Enough is enough and misses don’t count (at Kovy and at Brad R)…as the saying goes close only counts in TNT, hand grenades and horseshoes!! Close is not good enough. The roster knows it needs a pick me up or 3, especially on the left side(as usual!). What good is having 12 deep on D, 3-4 deep in Goal and ZERO deep up front? Maybe someone knows something I don’t in 5 decades plus!
Trash it or Don’t!
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neil Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@5holer, even if we picked up 3 new forwards that are scorers..they will NOT score under DL’s order of playing Defense first system.The Kings are what they are…a team that is trying to win a cup with defense and a hot goalie…..doenst matter who the forwards are….they will become grinders. Can we win a cup that way??? Maybe…. I will bet anyone that Stoll and Penner BOTH score 20 goals EACH next season with another team….Cause the games are such low scoring ,you always have a chance to steal a series or two…The rest of the season will be interesting!!!! It can go either way..BTW whatever happened to..”taking one game at a time” …
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5holer Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
@neil, Not just 3 new forwards at all! Must be forwards with a selfish mentality, at total change from what is there now. I sincerely doubt that DLs system calls for D & Gts only! That is ludicrous by any standard! Then not only is it ludicrous, but even more insane to expect to win a cup, division or anything in play-offs with that plan. If Kings are what they are, and this is it?..I doubt you will see this regime progress past this season’s end! They will either improve the scoring and thereby improve the chances of competing for a contending chance at the cup ASAP(this year at the CAP Threshold!) or its bye bye Black Birds!! Liewecke and AEG are not going to wait indefinitely for a Maybe! I do not doubt the ownership’s intentions here for a Cup Contender and not a Pretender as it is today! The pressure is on and its is intense now only to be exponentially more so as time goes on this season!! I won’t agree with your analysis at all, as it is too flawed with “losers mentality” attached to it (understandable for 45 years of waste and counting here!)…I excuse your conditional thinking, but you have to look a lot higher in order to get anywhere near a championship caliber club!
Agree to disagree!
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neil Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
@5holer, the Kings need to get away from the “losing mentality” not me…Playing NOT to lose instead of playing to win has been a problem since DL’s been here…DL’s system is defense and grinders…That is why the Kings got rid of players who couldnt/wouldnt grind(Moulson,Boyle,Purcell,ETC)also why players stop scoring here…DS is changing it a little bit..is it enough of a change?? Dont know yet…
number 6 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
@5holer,
I made my response to Neil above, and then your post appeared right after. I agree clearly with you, and I think there are more and more fans who are now a tiny bit fed up with the ‘high folks, welcome to radio kings…. all d all the time’ approach.
That said, I do take issue with a point or two that you made. As for Kovy….. God forbid. I mean really, let the Devils have him. Oh, btw, they are in huge financial trouble. Would have likely happened w/o his over valued contract, and he’s not gonna score 50 goals this year. Even a fifty goal scorer isn’t worth a contract like that. So fortunately we didn’t get him. Probably B. Richards saw something happening in NY, plus he’d already won a Cup w Tortorella, and history shows that he made the right choice. That doesn’t all fall on Dean.
What I personally find upsetting is that I find it troubling after a five and a half year rebuild, that we have four very key players. Quick, Kopi, Brownie, and Doughty. As we all know, Doughty was more or less a no brainer. The other three were from the DT era. So I ask why in the heck has DL not been able to add One ….. One significant player thru the draft that has made an impression. By impression I’m not talking Gordie Howe hat trick. I’m not speaking of trades here. Yes there is Voynov and Martinez, but after all the draft picks acquired by the org, that is the very least that one could expect.
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neil Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@number 6, Hey we have Lewis!!!!! Great player…if he was a 20th round find….
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5holer Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
@neil, Too many of those on one roster!!
number 6 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
@neil,
OK Neil. Down boy….. down!! The reason that I didn’t mention him or Clifford is that, while Martinez and Voynov have something that other teams would want, Lewis clearly based on what we’ve seen so far is less than the bees knees as a first round pick, and Cliffy is fine. I can’t say anything more than that. The type of game that he plays, it’s not like I can get excited and start jumping up and down when he was a 2nd round draft pick, and Lucic and Marchand were both 3rd picks. It too me creates a distinction. Same type of player essentially, the B’s players picked a round later (not same draft obviously) and who would you rather have on your team.
Martinez and Voynov on the other hand do bring something a little bit special to the party.
But I know what you’re saying Neil. Really, I’m just gonna try and enjoy our team as much as I can and pull for them come what may. Maybe DL will strike it rich with one of the guys still in juniors, but we won’t know that for a while yet.
neil Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
@neil, to number 6… I was joking about Lewis..saying if he was a 20th round pick then you could say he was a “Find” but for a number one pick..He’s below avg. Thanks buddy!!!
crashin'da net Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
@neil, Kings are playing to a C+ at best. Unfortunately on paper they are a more like a B+.
5holer Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
@number 6, I love intelligence in hockey posts! Thank you for it, seriously! I am in 1000% agreement with you on your points on my “misses”. I am NOT suggesting that we should have gotten Kovy or Brad R at all! I am saying that DL & company went hard after these two guys and got nothing for it. It was their target forwards to pursue, not mine. I did not necessarily agree with them at the time (more so on Brad then Kovy for sure, but $ is always astronomical with hi end UFAs!). Excellent point that Mr Taylor, the kid from Levack, Ontario gets his due in your post! Spot on my friend! What has this regime done? Well quite a lot though really! It took a loser organization void of any team pride since God knows when(Gretzky days, maybe?, but not ever before or after then!) and turned it rightside up with development of a winning culture. Dean & company be praised for that for sure!! Poor drafting overall, agreed…but at best it is a Crap shoot! Trade acquisitions can be the same problem, no sure things really(humans can be that way!). Overall a grade B, but the aim is too low at this point in time IMHO! Touche on your points, bang on!!
Good Stuff!
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number 6 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
@5holer,
Thanks a lot man. I think you said it all when you say overall a grade B, but the aim is too low. My issue is that if you’re using the Blackhawks and their 5yr build as point of reference, which he did, then it sort of sets expectations. Those are Our expectations and we’d probably all do better to keep them more neutral…. but he did sort of set the table that way. And that’s why, when you reference the ‘B’, it’s like… yeah thats good. And it IS. The problem is that in terms of drafting and building a team the Redwings have gotten an A for years now, and same with Vancouver, San Jose and Chicago, all those more recent.
That’s all. It Could have been a B+ or an A- (in my opinion) had there been better use made of some of those first round draft opportunities that kind of went begging.
neil Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
@5holer, grade B means “very good” ( At least when I went to school) Would you really say that the Kings and their whole organization is very good??? Fighting for a playoff space??? I would say more like a C (avg)… with better test scores( Wins) the grade can be moved to a B or even an A !!!!! Parents are usually happy with B’s…Iam not happy fighting for a playoff spot..I want top 4 !!!!!! Room for improvements all over the team…we can get there but still needs more work!!!
Crosby was in LA to see a neuro/spinal specialist and had skated at Toyota Sports Center in El Segundo – Helene Elliott via Twitter 35 min ago.
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The Batman Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
@goldielocks, I think they announced that like a couple days ago
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goldielocks Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
@The Batman,
Didn’t know the skating part.
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KC23 Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
@goldielocks, Jim Fox mentioned it in has Chat on Wednesday I believe.
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goldielocks Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
@KC23,
Oh … I couldn’t make the chat …
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19-12-1 = 39…. I have a beer bet with anyone that says we get AT LEAST that amount in points.
Hopefully you live in south county so we can meet up and you can buy me a beer over a game, since I can’t make it out to staples center.
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LittleRhody Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@Lake Forest, If you live close to your screen name, I’ll buy you a beer. I’m not very far from Laguna Hills HS.
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stillkingly Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
@LittleRhody,
Dana Point!
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:06 am
@Lake Forest, San Clemente.
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okay this is what i predict ..32-0-0 yup i just said it the rest of the Game Kings will be unbeatable…
Dont be jealous!of my awesome predictions
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I for one feel that there is a very tight window between too much defense (TM) and too little.
Based on our last 10 games or so it looks like Sutter is opening things up in small increments to see just how much we can attack without sacraficing defense. I think were real close to hitting that magic number (3 goals per game) and will be able to do so without any roster changes.
We have all the goal scorers we need to be a cup contender once the system is tweaked to perfection. My hope is that we come back from the all star break with clear heads and get on a winning streak that puts us above the Sharks in the standings. Home ice advantage in the playoffs is a huge confidence booster and we could use that instead of the underdog mentality.
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what’s the magic number? 1 point more than the #9 team.
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I’m gonna guess 100 points. Don’t see them winning the division but it’s not that far off either. All Star break is making me starve for hockey. Looking forward to seeing Quick in goal on Sunday.
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All right Rich. You know I love your Blog. Now I’m going to turn the tables on you. Obviously, you know I’m a World Class Broadcaster. I’m inviting you either Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday to be interviewed by me on my daily show Poorman’s Nation at http://www.Stickam.com/PoormansNation. It’s live streaming video, and I can interview you either by phone or webcam. I’m one of the top rated shows on the site, and I’ve been doing it less than a month. You have an 8 day break dude, and can’t hide. Will you agree to an interview on the Poormans Nation show? You used to be a huge fan of mine on KROQ. Let me know ASAP. I’ve been pursuing an interview with you for more than a year. BTW, I’ve interviewed Darryl Evans many times. Bloggers, what do you think? Should Rich do the interview?
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yetiman_oc Reply:
January 27th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
@Poorman, yes – I would love to see/hear that interview.
Are you still living in NYC?
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Kingsfanone Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:10 am
@Poorman,
Should Rich do an interview with you? No one but Rich could or should answer that. Why are you asking the bloggers that? Motive for posting it here instead of emailing Rich directly? His email is in the upper right of this page.
World Class Broadcaster? Your words.
Cmon.
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Duncanz Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 4:20 am
@Poorman, No! I think Rich should be interviewed by Rodney! He asks really good questions. Cheers!
LOL
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:04 am
@Duncanz, OHHH burn.
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Dominick Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 9:10 am
@Poorman, Rich loses nothing by doing it, and you have been a regular contributer here on the blog. If Rich isn’t busy, I think it would be fun to see. I’m all for Rich doing it, but it is his decision.
Question: When you interviewed Daryl, did you announse it here? I missed that one.
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jess Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:37 am
@Poorman,
Regarding Rich, The privilage would be yours, not his.
-And did I ever say thank you to KROQ for destroying punk as we know it and promoting Bad Religion imitation poser band Green Day and playing their weak un-creative songs like 50 times a day?
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Dominick Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
@jess, Actually, KROQ played Green Day less than many hard rock stations did. KROQ was too busy playing Flock of Seagulls wannabe’s and Duran Duran.
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jess Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@Dominick,
I can’t see how they played them any less. Not the way I remember it. -At least Flock of Seagulls and Duran Duran created their own categories. Green Day on the other hand was and is a direct and CHEAP rip off of Bad Religion.
Dominick Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
@jess,
But with bettr guitar work. Hard Rock stations palyed them (and others) more than KROQ which ultimately led to the end of KNAC, and other Hard Rock staions when these type of bands over took metal bands. Hard Rock Stations have evolved now, and have found a balance (sort of), but KROQ has traditionally stayed away from aggressive music in their regular rotation. They do play bands with heavy guitars, but not as much as the rock stations did.
Those type of bands killed themselves by being to “poppy”. At least that’s the way I saw it.
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jess Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
@Dominick,
Better guitar work? You must be kidding!
Dominick Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@Dominick, Well, from a guitarists point of view, their stuff is harder to play.
jess Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
@Dominick,
Yeah, but does it sound better. Answer: NO. Nothing original. And I’m talking about old Bad Religion. Original riffs. Green Day, NONE. Not one original riff in any one of their songs.
Dominick Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@Jess,
Greene Day did open the door for a lot of bands with punk influences to rise up during those years. Where would NOFX, or Pennywise be without Greene Day? Bad Religion paved the way for Greene Day, along with Social D, and Racid.
But if you talk to any original punkers from back in the days, they hated those bands compared to say “Black Flag”. It’s all relative, and to me, it’s all good!
jess Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
@Dominick,
You’re talking to one right now
Duncanz Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
@jess, Poorman would purport to be a personality, not a punker or a politician
(try saying that even ONE time fast!)
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Duncanz Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
@Dominick & @Jess, You guys sound too young to have ever heard of
REAL seminal bands like The Sex Pistols and The Ramones.
Not your fault tho’ ; )
jess Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
@Duncanz,
Those are obvious:) How about this, three words for ya, Cathay de Grande…
-Old school enough for ya?
Dominick Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
@Duncanz, Don’t make me break out my records! LOL
Duncanz Reply:
January 29th, 2012 at 3:27 am
@Dominick Your birth records or your 78 rpms?!
Duncanz Reply:
January 29th, 2012 at 3:34 am
@Duncanz, @Jess, Wow, what a rad place, I’d never heard of it ’til now!
I’m sure you had a helluva time there in the ‘seminal’ days of the revolution!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/mike-richards-future-hip-hop-other-revelations-funny-161746796.html;_ylt=AiEJuAtxJ09RdZNSVGfD786Rbcp_;_ylu=X3oDMTE5cHI5aWF0BG1pdANCbG9ncyBJbmRleARwb3MDMjkEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0luZGV4;_ylg=X3oDMTFvcGs0cnBnBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3
Hilarious!
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Quick is scheduled to compete in the Fastest Skater competition today!
Has a goalie ever competes in this contest?
We all know hao great an athlete he is. Cant wait to see him go without pads!!!
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The Batman Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 7:47 am
@Munchrat, carrie price and tim thomas competed last year
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I guess 1 goalie from each team has to participate in the Fastest Skater challenge. Who’s the goalie for Team Alfy? You guessed it!
hope he doesn’t pull a hammy!
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Saw a clip of the captains picking for the skills … when it came to picking a goalie for “fastest skater” competition … the quote from Alfredsson “this one is obvious, Quick” not even a split second of hesitation.
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Duncanz Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
@KC23, DA stands for Daniel Alfredsson, and also Damned Astute!!
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Rich I just herd on radio 710 Espn that kings are looking at Ryan Malone for Bernier.? Do you have and info.?
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KC23 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
@GG, Ryan Malone would be an excellent addition.
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I thought I would share with you guys and gals a short hockey story. Last night I went to my first college hockey game. The Utah Utes vs BYU. It was very entertaining and quite fun. Only if not for the guy who spotted me wearing my Kings gear. Dude kept looking at me funny, like he had to talk to me, kind of look. Dude finally walks up and says, that I’m wearing the wrong colors for a Kings fan. I’m like what do you mean. I had on my hoodie with the crown and my hat with the home plate emblem. He says,”you should be wearing purple and gold”. I laugh, knowing that our colors of the day are black and white.
Dude goes on to ask if I’m a scout or something. No I’m just a fan, who sometimes writes on the blog site, called the Insider. He says, “who are you King Charles” and I said, “yes”. Dude thought I was a star or something. What a joke. He goes on to tell me he’s the biggest Kings fan in Utah and that he played for the Jr Kings. I just shake my head and say, “I saw Rob Blake once”. He says he almost made the Kings roster back in ’78. The funny thing is when I asked him who his favorite King player is, he said the black guy. Simmer I said. He said dude is great on the PP. I went on to say that Wayne had been traded during the summer. I knew then that I had a physio on my hand. We all know that Richards is a better player then Simmer and that we made out on the trade. Dude freaked out on me. Told me the Kings will never amount to anything and by getting rid of the “Black” guy we were doomed as a team.
Just goes to show you what kind of people we deal with at hockey games. Some people just don’t know what they’re talking about. Look I don’t want to judge anyone here. Maybe dude did play for the JR Kings’ but all I care about when anyone wants to talk about the Kings is… What is going on with the club now!!! It’s all about our next game and how we are going to score more goals. I mean it’s cool to look back every now and then, but really all we as fans can do is wait till the next game. My hope is that dude will go out and buy Center Ice and watch our club. Big things are going to happen in this second half. I’m sure it’s going to be full of drama and thrills. Not knowing what the outcome is going to be is awesome. This team has it right in their hands. If they can pull it all together and skate as we know they can, the rest of the season can be a ride we will not soon forget. Thanks for reading and remember that this Kingdom is ours. Let us Rule!!!
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BluLiner Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:24 am
@King Charles of Salt Lake,
Hahaha – That dude is not the biggest Kings fan in Utah, we know who is.
and I’m with you man – it should be a great second half. I hope the Kings build a bit of a cushion before that brutal stretch in mid-March.
Last, I am a big-time gopher fan from the Herb Brooks days – college hockey is great and can be inspiring.
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Duncanz Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
@King Charles of Salt Lake, Haha, ‘physio’! nice euphemism there.
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I’m not sure if JMFJ has a no trade clause. If he doesnt, i have a gut feeling that he gest traded for more scoring and our defense after the trade deadline will look something like this
Doughty-Scud
Martinez-Mitch
Voynov-Green
We have seven UFAs next year. Is there any doubt Penner and Stoll are history. Mitchell will likely get a two year extention which will cement the back line. That leaves $11.250M of breathing room to acquire more scoring, and even more cash if Gagne is released. I understand that some of that money will be spent to fill in the bottom half of the roster, but it still leaves us a good chucnk to add scoring.
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It is Bernier for Malone according espn
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bbb7 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
@GG, For a 32 yo on the downside of his career, who is currently injured? I dont buy that; would be criminal to let JB go for that, sort of a 1970s 1980s Kings trade, new-for-old. No thanks.
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bbb7 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
@bbb7, If Tampa throws in Brett Connolly, then maybe.
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CB14 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
@GG, No thanks, that would be a bad trade IMO.
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jess Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
@GG,
Not enough value IMO for a franchise goaltender like Bernier.
Malone: Left Wing
6’4, 219, Age: 32
2010-2011, Goals: 14, Assists: 24, and a -3
2011-2012, Goals: 10, Assists: 17, and a -3
Basically another Dustin Penner….
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crashin'da net Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
@GG, My God, say it ain’t so!
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KC23 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
@GG, I would love to see Malone on the Kings. He is a finisher and loves to play in the dirty areas. Also very good on the PP. Those throwing around stats, better take a closer look a Bernier’s stats.
“But we all know Bernier is better than his stats would suggest” … yep, same with Malone.
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Duncanz Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 10:42 pm
@KC23, I’d be interested to know what Scuds has to say about him!
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KC23 Reply:
January 28th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
@Duncanz, Malone is a BIG dude. 6’4″ and plays big. Leans to playing more in the dirty zones as opposed to the boards like most of our forwards seem to be in love with. He finishes his checks much more often than not.
Dominick Reply:
January 29th, 2012 at 12:49 am
@KC23, I’m surprised at you KC. You have hated JJ for years because of his +/- and yet Malone is a -37 for his career. He also has been injured quite a bit the last few years. Not to mention, Berniers on the beginning of a brilliant career at 23 years of age, and Malone is on the end that the poop comes out of. This would be too high a price for Malone IMO. If Bernier was gonna go, it should be for someone who the Kings will get at least 5 years out of.
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Duncanz Reply:
January 29th, 2012 at 3:16 am
@Dominick, You must of course realize, sir, that there exists a famished fiefdom of quite considerable proportion in the townships and the fields, with telescopes retracted to much less than one fifth of one’s five-year projection for the pathway to prosperity! [Winston Churchill - 1939]
… or am I going to ruin a good dust-up by stating the obvious there? If so, then apologies and don’t mind me! : )
A win percentage of .625 would get the Kings to 98 pts and a certain playoff position. I hope they can do it. From what I’ve seen from Sutter so far I’d have to say that it is possible. We just need to get the scoring up a bit more…
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