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Matt George Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose,
SO
Was it Terry Murray’s coaching or the fact that we lost Zues, Smitty, and Simmonds… Three moderate to High impact players for one high impact player in Richards.
Very interesting stuff.
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VanKingsFan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
@Matt George, Richards AND Gagne. Plus the expected maturation of Loktionov and Clifford.
IMO they are both to blame. Players are not performing to expectations, but this has been an ongoing theme with too many of our players in the TM era.
I think this was the best option for the team for this season
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Hipcheck Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
@Matt George, certainly it played a role and a factor but the coach also needs to play a system best suited for the hand he has been dealt.
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He Shoots, He Scores Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@Matt George,
That’s misleading. Symth gets replaced by Gagne, who, on paper, should equal production with less money. Richards takes over Stoll’s position, and I don’t think anyone will argue that isn’t an upgrade. Stoll takes over Handzus’ position and I don’t think anyone will argue that isn’t an upgrade. The only hole left is Simmonds’ and Dean shouldn’t have a hard time filling a 3RW spot; so far it hasn’t panned out, but that shouldn’t be a hard-to-fill position, either internally now, or through the trade or waiver market.
Did the absence of those 3 make a huge difference in the dressing room, loss of intensity? Hard to argue that if you’re not someone deeply connected.
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joan fondell Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
@He Shoots, He Scores, I think the loss of Zeus would have been felt from a defensive angle. He had some goals…but that wasn’t his forte. He was very good in the shoot-out. I think Gagne has been somewhat disappointing. There are some games, where I don’t even seem him make a pass, or have any impact. I think losing Simmonds was significant. He had jump, energy and was always digging around for the puck, cycling down low. I think there are a lot of factors. I think DOughy’s hold-out and making the Kings team unsure whether he was on board or not, made for a less than cohesive group from training camp on. Smyth was a great leader on and off the ice. His departure is probably the largest. I don’t think it was all TM’s fault, but the team captain Brownie should be rallying the team, playing his heart out, being the example. And I see it some games and not others. In many respects, I think Kopi should be captain. Showing by example is the best a captain can do–that coupled with respect.
Matt George Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
@He Shoots, He Scores,
I left out gagne purposely because he has performed exactly as I thought he would.
I’m well aware of Gagne’s history as a goal scorer but his last year in Tampa was a big red flag.
thus he doesn’t get counted in the mix… so again.. smyth, zeus, simmonds gone for Richards
the results are on the scoreboard
the hockey don Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, wow I didn’t see that coming! Lol
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thelexsters Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, this is the day that the lord has made lol
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tim Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@thelexsters, We shall rejoice and be glad in it. Love your reference to scripture!
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Purple and Gold Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose,
Adios, to all the fire Murray comments, Ill be glad to never have to read one again
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Ezra Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@Purple and Gold, And now on to all the Murray shouldn’t have been fired comments… (I kid, I kid)
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Forum67 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
@Purple and Gold,
I am more concerned now that TM is gone, for the team to play in such a manner that makes it unnecessary for me to read any more comments about all the trouble we have scoring.
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Kinger Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, I’m going to the game on Saturday in Detroit so it will be interesting to see how they look.
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Mimas Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@Kinger, See you there…let’s all la fans sit together. Wear your purple and gold so we stand out.
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Kinger Reply:
December 13th, 2011 at 1:55 am
@Mimas, What section are you sitting in at the game in Detroit?
alex101 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, Sad, I feel like Lombardi didn’t want to do it. I take comfort in knowing we didn’t let him down. Fans will be fans. We are great, loud, devoted fans who start chants and cheer despite being down a goal (god forbid 2 goals) into the 3rd. At the end of the day the players let him down. They have been letting all of us down.
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TheDryer5 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose,
For years we’ve watched under-performing talent move on to another team/coach and excel. Let’s hope this has the same affect, but for once the Kings see the benefit.
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uclaemt Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, Im telling everyone of you cheering this decision– nothing will happen. Yes you will see a couple of inspired “Oh S#*t” games and then back to the same old Kings. It was never a coaching or system issue. In fact I doubt that by promoting the assistant coach that you’re going to see whole sale system changes. The problem here is the individual players. For whatever reason they aren’t mature enough or care enough to be ready to play everynight. To say players consistently under preform with TM is misleading. Who exactly underperforms? DD was a norris finalist under TM and his lack of dedication has resulted in a significant slide in performance. Kopi has been consistently improving and developing into one of the top 2 way players under TM, he is considered an elite centerman by many in the hockey world & that’s because of TM– to all who will talk about slumps and numbers, he has been among the league leaders in points for the 1st couple months of the last 2 seasons all coached by TM. Kopi himself drops off and goes into slumps that have nothing to do with TM. DB has grown as a player and offensive threat under TM’s system. Nothing changed this year with the system except to allow more offensive freedom. When the fans blame the system and the coach they are being very short sighted. Im sure as we all got to enjoy playoff hockey and 100+ point seasons that TM was a horrible coach then too and his horrible system was killing the kings. I say be careful what you wish for…as they move forward and the lynch mob of TM hatng fans have nothing else to complain about because the team will now go undefeated the rest of the year and score 10 goals a game…that you bring the same passion and emotion in holding each individual player accountable for his lack of production.
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Forum67 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
@uclaemt,
It is as if you feel that everyone calling for a coaching change did so without a willingness to acknowledge all the good things TM accomplished. That is not the case. There are times, and I believe this is one of them, when no matter how good the coach has been for you in the past, he just can’t quite get you to that next level. And I believe that was the case with TM.
Now that it has happened, the focus returns fully and completely to the players. Whether TM’s system was the root cause for the team’s problems, whether it was the players, or whether it was other factors, now that TM is gone, no one, not players, coaches, management, or fans, can hold TM responsible any longer.
So hopefully, no matter what system Stevens employs, the players will get out of this funk and start finding the back of the net. One can only hope.
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furrylats Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Hiss #2
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Telos Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
@Kings Win, Ducks Lose, YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! Best possible thing that could have happened
WOOHOO!! Dean is clutch!
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DEAN GREW SOME BALLS!!!
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Wow
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Shakes Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@WAKingsFan,
It’s Tebow time.
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broncokings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
@Shakes, if he does for the kings what he does for Denver I’ll take him…
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Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Mama!
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And. It’s. Done. (For now) gKg!
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Why didn’t this happen yesterday before the long trip back East?
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deadcatbounce Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@DaveinSD, Why didn’t this happen two weeks ago. When it didn’t, I figured that nothing would be done until after the holidays. Good luck, Terry, and good luck Kings. Hopefully Stevens won’t be interim for long and they’ll appoint a new head coach soon because Stevens may just be a clone of TM.
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Kyle Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@DaveinSD,
Maybe so the local media could bombard them?
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Kyle Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@Kyle, …could NOT…
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DaveinSD Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@Kyle, if they would haved fired TM yesterday, today would have been a brand new day with a different coach during practice…not TM. Now the team is shook up and I hope they can bare down for tomorrow’s game.
Mucker Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
@DaveinSD, Because they were home! They needed TM to go on the road so they could bring in prospective replacements without raising suspicions!
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Unless John Stevens institues a new system what has changed? Nothing!
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DrewStopCrossChecking Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
@Kingscritic, Exactly, we need new blood in there ASAP. Fire the entire staff and get a offensive system going.
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Adam Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
@DrewStopCrossChecking, Agreed
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rsoscia Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@DrewStopCrossChecking, My thoughts exactly the whloe staff has to go. Replace them all.
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uclaemt Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
@DrewStopCrossChecking, Please define or explain the magic system that this team needs and offer suggestions as to which players shoudl fill which roles in that system. I would guess that 90% or more of the league use a dump and chase and cycle type system just like the Kings. The difference is execution. That is a player problem not a coaching one.
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CMaldo96 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
@uclaemt, I agree… I would also like to know what system the people feel the Kings need to play AND why. There is alot more to it than “We need goals, let’s go all out on offense” mentality. You have to take your strengths, and weaknesses into account.
I hate to break it to you all but the LA Kings will NEVER be an ultra fast, high tempo scoring machine. To confirm this simply look at where they play. Not two days ago the conditions of the ice at Staples Center were being discussed as being some of the worst in the league. When half of the games you play every year are on bad ice, do you really feel it is wise to try to play a fast paced, precision type game? Or would a slower, closer checking system make more sense?
The Kings CAN Score more… It’s NOT the system that is going to dictate it any more than it is the effort and determination of the players on the ice. Hopefully this will wake up guys like Brownie and Stoll and get them back on the score sheet.
Thank You Terry Murray for all you did for the Kings while you were here. Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
CMaldo96 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
@uclaemt, The should have fired Kompon! hahahaha…. If the powerplay had been sucking as bad as it did last year, they probably would have.
PRMan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
@uclaemt, The key is the third man. Does he hold back or join the play in an even situation? Under TM’s system, he holds back. This system favors poor talent, because you play team defense until you get a clear opportunity.
But when you have world-class offensive talent, you want to have the player join for the offense, even if you give up some goals. Why? Because if your talent is better than theirs, you should score more.
Conversely, if their team is tougher and better defensively than yours, then you will lose because you are playing into their hands.
Also, are you preferring board play and point shots or skating through the high slot? Larger, slower, defensive teams with a guy who will stand in front of the net (Handzus, Smyth) should use board play and dump and chase.
Teams with speed and offensive talent should play a system that looks more like a track meet. Outrun the big, slow teams all game until they tire out in the third and you can win it late. You can especially use this system when you have elite defensemen and great goaltenders that can bail you on 2-on-1′s.
In the Kings’ case, we lost both of our stand-in-front-of-the-net players, and replaced them with Gagne and Richards. To win, we need a resulting change in style that favors those players’ speed and creativity.
Sebastian Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@Kingscritic, this can be a big wakeup call to the players! hopefully that changes and they come to the rink ready to play.
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Andrew Harkins Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@Kingscritic, That’s why he’s named “interim” head coach. DL will continue searching for a replacement unless Stevens takes us to that next level this season.
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California Royalty Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@Kingscritic, hahaha is Stevens’ head already being called for?
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Kingsfanone Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@California Royalty,
No breaks around here!
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Kingscritic Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@California Royalty,
The Kings needed a new system. Murray created the system so he needed to go. I think they need an entirely new coach to institute a new system, not let Steven’s tweek the old “bad” system. Murray was already doing that. It’s not motivation, its the overly defensive system and the lack of balance that’s the problem.
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broncokings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
@Kingscritic, hopefully Kompon gets the axe also, imo the pp needs to be worked on..
cjms Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
@Kingscritic,
An-dy Mur-ray!
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Danielle Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
@cjms, He is the head coach at the college my sister goes to, Western Michigan. And doing a great job from she tells me
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Danielle Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
@Danielle, *from what she tells me
Hipcheck Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
@Kingscritic, maybe so but if he is better at handling goalies, calling timeouts, knows when to send out the 4th line, and bench players then it will be an improvement.
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Kingscritic Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@Hipcheck,
Hip that’s true but I don’t think that’s the major reason for their lack of scoring problems.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@Kingscritic, Why not wait to see what he does?
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Kingscritic Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Sure we could wait but unless Stevens was radically against what Murray was doing which is usually isn’t the case, he will try to tweek the system, not create a new one. Murray tried to tweek they system and it didn’t work, I believe they need a entirely “new” system.
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uclaemt Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
@Kingscritic, Again I’ll pose this to you as I did above to another person: Everyone seems certain that there is a “new” system to be implemented that will properly use all our skill players and get them out of the defensive zone doing unimportant things like defending and on the attack making “pretty” plays and passes and scoring 10 goals a game. So, if you have an idea(s) please define your “new” system and how & where you would utilize the players on the roster.
PRMan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
@Kingscritic, See above.
joan fondell Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@Kingscritic, Exactly. Just more of the same…unless it is truly Interim…but that could be even more disruptive.
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GKG Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
@joan fondell, In response to KingsCritic, who asks a very relevant and poignant question, I respond as follows:
1. There is no such thing as a “playbook” in hockey, or to be more clear, aside from the power play, set plays are rare – used once every ten games or so, if that often…
2. In light of this, we install a “system.” A system is more or less like an arrangement of beliefs and general instructions, emphasizing certain “beliefs” (like the “home plate mentality” and the “shot mentality” that we hear about constantly) over others.
3. Other beliefs, generated by external forces like the media, tend to creep into our “system” as time passes, for example, the concept of a moral victory or silver lining. In professional sports, if you show me a moral victory, and I’ll show you a highly-regarded loser.
4. Los Angeles is a hell of a place for a boy of 18-24 to come to, especially a humble boy, and try to keep his focus. The coach’s message gets dilluted by the distractions that seem to be everywhere, and everyone’s belief system shifts in some way. The veterans ezperience this less than the younger players, and soon every player ends up with a slightly different belief system, and therefore, a slightly different priority system on the ice. They begin to drift apart. The coach’s belief system is lost, and the coach has to go. The more young players you have, the easier it is for a time to lose its focus, since younger players are still finding their way from “talented and promising” to “professional on and off the ice.”
5. HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, the only magic system that can turn his team around is ABSOLUTE IRON-FISTED DISCIPLINE AND ACCOUNTABILITY. You will make the right play, even if it is not the easy play, or we will replace you with someone who will.
I have watched too many defensemen, aware that they are going to take a hit, throw the puck away and turn it over, even though we preach relentlessly against turnovers.
I have seen too many players standing around in the offensive zone (especially on the power play), even though we preach motion away from the puck and have studied in detail how driving to the net creates space.
I have witnessed hundreds of shots from poor scoring areas with no presence in front of the net and no hope that they might actually find their way into the net. In this case, our “shot mentality” does more harm than good.
Too many times does one forward forecheck all alone. These transgressions can not be tolerated, lest the team wither up and die. I have seen the penguins and lightning bottle a team up in their own zone for long periods of time, without even having to touch the puck. This is how a committed hockey team forechecks.
So, players of my most belovede team, please note: Terry was fired for your shortcomings. For your failure to play according to his vision. For your failure to consistently execute together as a team. And Terry is no longer available to take the blame. I would demand accountability, and use all of the resources available to make sure every single player taking the rink under my watch play each second of each shift of each period of each game with PRIDE, PASSION and POWER.
We are some of the longest suffering fans in professional sports and we deserve it..
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A whole lot changes in eight hours…
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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Murray
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deadcatbounce Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@Ryan, Wow, dude, show a little class.
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Rolf Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
@deadcatbounce, He obviously has none…
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Fire mentality.
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Cowboy Bill Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
@Michael_DD8, I like it, funny!
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Andrew: The second coming Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@Michael_DD8, I see what you did there
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MmmmYummy Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
@Michael_DD8, sweet
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
@Michael_DD8, The fire heard round the world.
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Let’s watch the offense bloom now.
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Send kompon ass with him.
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KingsFan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@Big rich,
SERIOUSLY.I was waiting to read that, but nothing yet.
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Nickcypress Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@Big rich, Agree
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Pesus Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@Big rich,
The new coach will bring in his guys thats when Kompon will exit
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wow that was fast the presure was on forsure! thanks again for letting us know rich you rock. But now the devils advocate in me wonders did you know about this earlyer lol
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Jason4Kings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@pr0cess,
Can of worms. Let’s move forward!
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pr0cess Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@Jason4Kings, good point sorry rich not trying to open that wound again… move along nothing to see!!
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Jason4Kings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
@pr0cess, ha ha.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Jason4Kings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@fsd1,
You fought hard sir. Good compete. Just wasn’t enough.
Also….Yay!
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Sebastian Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@Jason4Kings, you got a lot of shots though…
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@Jason4Kings, No one’s been better, dot-to-boards.
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mash-ola Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
@fsd1, Ok, so most people seem to be rejoicing and all, but as of now, this team is in the pits, heading to take on the defending Stanley Cup champion, a trap game against Columbus, and a visit to Hockeytown and the high-flying Redwings. Will the Kings be any better by taking out Terry Murray? I for one wasn’t ready to pull the trigger given there doesn’t appear to be a permanent successor in the mix yet. But, the Kings haven’t been able to get their act together and usually it’s the coach that has to take the fall. I totally understand that.
I’m disappointed that Murray couldn’t get the team to play the way he wanted them to, but management probably thought that it was better to cut their losses now while it’s still relatively early in the season. There’s still plenty of time to right the ship. But will the new admiral be enough?
To Coach Murray, you ended your days here one win shy of 500, but in my books you’re a good man. Thank you for helping this team pick itself up and gain some respectability. People have a very short memory, it seems, but when he first arrived on the scene, the Kings were terrible (nothing close to what we are seeing now), and turned them into a very competitive team. He instilled a solid work ethic and a responsible game plan.
It’s time for you to go, but I definitely want to give the man his props because he has helped this team grow more than people give him credit for, and he deserves that.
Good luck to TM in his future endeavors. And if this is really what everyone on the team wanted, they sure as hell better get their asses off the ground and start playing some hockey. There is no one other scapegoat around, is there?
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Maybe Stevens can motivate the offense to score 3 a game, while still keeping the D intact. Otherwise, do you find a replacement for him in another week?
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silk Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@Mickey Keenan, You bet ya! If we don’t see more offensive production immediately and guys …skating the puck into the zone then all of us will call for Stevens head tomorrow evening after the game. Guaranteed!
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mash-ola Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
@Mickey Keenan, I doubt you’ll see anything drastically different from Stevens.
And if things don’t change, what next?
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WOW now we need to win bottom line!!!!
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WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!
Finallllllyyyyyyyyy!!!
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Now that is some news I can get behind! Good luck Murray!
GO KINGS GO!
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And there it is. Thanks TM for all you did. Too bad it didn’t work out.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@Stagger, I think it DID. Some tend to forget that the young base of the Kings learned under him. Now they’re ready to put away the basic math and go for the calculus.
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KingMe20 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
I agree. As I said, he was the right coach to get them this far (from where they were when he was hired), but they need a closer. They need a guy who can manage veteran players, and get the most out of them. Not sure that John Stevens is the right guy, but there’s not a lot of great candidates out there right now.
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uclaemt Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, This team is not ready for “calculus” and they barely understand “basic math.” If, as you suggest, TM was the problem this year then you have to account for the 8 games this year and the previous 2 seasons where he worked very well. His system works when the players decide they want to follow it. When a professional athlete can’t get himself prepared to play a game, and as was suggested over last week by players and DL, or come with an attitude to devote yourself 100% to the team then you have a player problem. Firing the coach won’t fix that problem…trades or waivers will.
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HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
@uclaemt, Isn’t it ironic that each time Quick set a record, I forget why he was set down last year, but then the Kings started the 10 game lose record and this season with 3 shutouts in a row he sat him again and wala, Murray was a slow learner and got burned both times. Stewrts style is exactly like Murrays and it didn’t take the Flyers very long to pull the trigger with him. I can think of a number of coaches, but I’d like to see either Pat Quinn or Ted Nolan.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
@uclaemt, So, two years ago, they could do the basic math really well, and they just…forgot?
They didn’t forget. They didn’t get lazy. They had the snot bored out of them!
Thanks for all your dedication to this club Murph. While the news wasn’t surprising at all, it’s a bummer to hear about somebody losing their job. Good luck!
Wonder who they’re bringing in to replace him. I like the idea of Granato
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@evan, I think he keeps his salary, doesn’t he?
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McDonalds Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
@evan,
Agreed. Good luck to you Terry
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Thank you TM for your service to the team.
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There it is.
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Well – you never want to hear about someone losing their job before the holiday.
But a few wins in the month of December would make for a Merry Xmas
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bbb7 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
@OneTimer, Since his contract is guaranteed thru next season, he’ll survive.
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Thank-you Terry. The boys let you, and us, down.
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fsd1 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@krash324, agree
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Pumpernicholl Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
@krash324, Totally agree. I hope there are some nice big mirrors for the players to look into, in that Boston hotel where they’re staying.
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Steve C Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@krash324, agreed
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Osaka Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
@krash324, True.
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soyokaze Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
@krash324, +1!
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mash-ola Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
@krash324, Definitely. The game is played on the ice, not on a chalkboard. TM can’t be the blame for every single thing the Kings weren’t doing right.
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HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
@krash324, It wasn’t all the boys, if you have racehorses you don’t slow gait them, you let’um roll with their talent, as I seen it there are a number of guys he stifled, used un the wrong place and listened to Kompon to much.
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what a day. huh RICH…!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@variable,
You aren’t kidding!
Guess Rich’s “legal fish” dinner is gonna wait for a bit?
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variable Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@Kingsfanone,
take it to go…(!)
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@Kingsfanone, Legal Seafood?
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mash-ola Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Seafood restaurant chain on the east coast. “Seafood so fresh,it’s barely legal!”
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
@mash-ola….Yeah, been there. That’s why I responded to “legal fish” wondering if he meant Legal Seafood.
Kingsfanone Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Sorry, went to a show, but wanted to respond.
Yes, that’s what he said, didn’t know it was a name of a place! Now makes sense! Thanx!
john stevens proved to be a very very very poor coach. Now he gets to prove it, unfortunately with our team
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Nathan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@jayrew, I agree. That’s the problem. Stevens is terrible
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fsd1 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
@Nathan, FIRE STEVENS! WE NEED A NEW COACH!!!! LMAO
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Jason4Kings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@jayrew,
It clearly says “interim”.
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jayrew Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@Jason4Kings, right. like the ex-flyer coach wouldn’t have a leg up on the rest of the available names.
Joke.
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Jason4Kings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
@jayrew, What’s a joke? The fact that it says interim? I think if Lombardi intended to keep Stevens as head coach he would have done so.
uclaemt Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
@Jason4Kings, I would be willing to bet interim means rest of season. I don’t think I can recall a team having 3 designated head coaches in a season. This move satisfies the lynch mob that went after TM for the player’s failures…it also grabs the players’ attention & in theory motivates them…and the only move DL has left is trades. I have a bad feeling this move kills the season
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Jason4Kings Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
@uclaemt, Interim doesn’t mean the rest of the season. If he intended to keep Stevens as head coach for the rest of the season he probably wouldn’t have specifically named him “interim coach”.
Forum67 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
@uclaemt,
That is where you are wrong. This season has already been “killed”. So this move and/or any subsequent moves either revive an already “killed” season or maintains its moribund status.
MmmmYummy Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
@jayrew, If Kings defense is so great [Stevens responsibility] then we’d still be putting up Ws while only scoring one or two goals a game. From what I’ve read the players at least seem to like Stevens – but good coaching alone that does not make.
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jayrew Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@MmmmYummy, The players liked murray too. how bout we goet a coach the players dont like? i know they hated crawford, but he was just a poor coach, period.
enough with the sissiness “the players like him, he doesnt yell” wahhhhh. did you see tom brady yesterday get barked at? give me a barker that lets em have it.
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mash-ola Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
@jayrew, Then maybe we should fire him now, too, while we still have a chance.
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Hope this is the answer. I don’t like it… Good luck TM.
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I’m sure some are singin “Ding dong the witch is dead”… but It’s misplaced. Oh well, behave Terry.
GKG!
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Someone ince said “be careful what you ask for”. I hope this is not the case here.
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Bring back berry!
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It had to be done. Mainly I’m relieved that the process didn’t drag out any longer.
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pr0cess Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
@Pumpernicholl, hey no one is draging me around
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And the ax falls… sorry to see him go but he had to. Hopefully this sends a spark to the players and the team can turn things around. Thanks for your guidance and help in rebuilding the team TM, and best of luck getting another coaching job, 500 wins would be a great accomplishment.
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Bye Bye Terry.. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this team! Appreciate it.
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I’ll say it again….NO DARYL SUTTER!
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krash324 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@Cry Baby, He is a better coach then GM
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puddle Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
@Cry Baby, I have a feeling you’re going to be disappointed. Just call it a hunch.
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Thanks TM. You got the team to a good spot. Unfortunately we need to get much higher, and it’s just not something you seemed to be able to do. Best of luck in your next job.
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Stevens was the same crappy coach in Phili who got fired because he got nothing out of his team
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Helene is on NHLnetwork talking about TM’s “lack of crfeativity” among other things was what hurt TM…
Doesn’t have an idea who should take over…
wow…
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Cry Baby Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@Stuart, Your feed is like 3 minutes ahead of mine!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
@Cry Baby,
You must have Time Warner?
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This is for nothing if Kompon still has a job.
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what about Jamie???? He has to go too. John kick him out of your staff.
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MmmmYummy Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@downsy89, My exact question too – what about Kompon? Was TM at the root of Kompons suck or or what? We’d like some answers Lombardi.
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Since '67 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
@MmmmYummy, He’s an Interim Coach, has no say on who’s on the staff, that’s up to the GM at this point.
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tm served his purpose in helping a young team mature. but if stevens is a tm disciple and there is no system change, what is the point in firing tm?
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Best of luck Murray. Your time here is over, and it was probably overdue, but I do thank you for what you did for the Kings. Now it’s time to take the next step.
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Finally! now get rid of Kompon and Stevens along with him!
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Kasey9 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@Bob, Why Stevens? even tho hes interm head coach now but gee all ive seen him do is coach great defense last 2 seasons
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Well, now we will see if anything changes without TM in charge. How long until DL issues statement saying what I have heard on this blog for over a year now? My bet is he will hit on all the popular themes that the posters on this site have been saying.
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I think it was time for Murray to go, but seems to me that the players should take some responsibility here.
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everyone happy now?
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fsd1 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@Saks, Im not, stupid move.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@fsd1, Why do you think it’s stupid. What would you do to get the team on track?
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fsd1 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
@yetiman_oc, too late now, but if you have been reading my posts……
yetiman_oc Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@fsd1, I haven’t seen your posts. Just saw what you said earlier about not arguing. I’m not doubting you, this move probably doesn’t magically fix everything tomorrow night. Word is JS is the same type of coach so what should he do to get this team going?
tornado12 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@Saks, NO
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Saks Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@tornado12, likewise, I guess its up to the players now to make this work, I beleie the road trip will help us. We need 7 out the next 10 games.
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mash-ola Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
@Saks, Yeah.. the players… they need to be accountable. You can only fire TM once, so it’s not like you’re going to keep blaming him for all of the team’s ills…
Laura Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@Saks, I’m not either. I liked Terry Murray. Why is it his fault the players aren’t scoring on the ice!? Give me a break!
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deadcatbounce Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
@Saks, I don’t think some people will be happy until they have show trials and summary executions for the rest of the coaching staff.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@deadcatbounce, Or a Stanley Cup victory party.
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silk Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
@Saks, Nope, but its a good start. The rest of his entourage need to go also. DL now needs to get some offensive minded coaches in here to make it exciting hockey. It would be sweet to see some time spent in the O zone.
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MmmmYummy Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
@Saks, YES! duh
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Thanks TM, appreciate all you’ve done for this organization.
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Wow, I guess my “inside source” was not so “inside”. I was told this wouldn’t happen. But I am relieved that it finally has happened. Now maybe we can open things up a bit on offense…
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HockeyOnlyAwaitingModeration Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
@pnm, Or maybe they did know but had to tell you what they told you.
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First of all I think Terry did a great job the past two seasons: he got us to the playoffs for two consecutive seasons and oversaw a 100+ point season. So thank you for that, Terry. Due to the state of the kings, however, I think that his firing is felicitous (studying for a test – trying to use as many big words as possible). It’s time for a new coach and a new system. The Kings have plenty of fire power, now let’s use it!
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Hmmm … I was calling for this but I feel kinda sad right now. Thank you Murray for making such a great foundation for this team. And good luck for your next job.
As for players, you guys should feel sorry for this, too. I’m not gonna so forgiven if you perform the same mediocre game under a new coach! That’s gonna be inexcusable!
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Daren Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@goldielocks, I agree. I have been calling for DL to fire TM since last season. Now, I kind of feel bad for the guy. Oh well…let’s see what Stevens can do.
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Thank you Terry for everything, I wish the best in the future !!!
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There’s another shoe to drop, methinks.
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MmmmYummy Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@puddle, yes mehopes too.
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Let’s hope no ones kicking their self in the ass in a few weeks. Things don’t change over night. A lot of the problems can’t all be put On Murray. Players have to assume some responsibility. TM is a class act and I wish him the best.
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silk Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
@Framer, We all wish him the best, but its time to move on!
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This had to happen, this team stopped playing for this coach and this coach didn’t grow with the roster. I just hope Stevens isn’t the final answer, because I don’t think he’s the solution. I’d rather see an up and comer, someone like Granato who has history here and has been with a successful organ-I-zation the last few years.
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michel therrien would be a good fit if he’s interested…
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Kingsfanone Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@variable,
I still like this idea/choice!
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Osaka Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@variable, After the season I wold go for Pittsburg assistant Tony Granato.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
@Osaka, Rumor is they are going after him now.
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Osaka Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
@yetiman_oc, Really?!?! Did they ask Pitt for permission to speak with him? Would Pitt let their assistant go midseason?
variable Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
@Osaka,
another solid idea…
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Bad time to lose a job, but change was needed. Good luck Murray. The Kings are in a much better place now than when you were named their head coach. Thank you.
I wonder who will be next? Too bad Trotz isn’t available.
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SKF Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@Tyler,
I agree. Thanks Terry, but it was time.
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TYLER Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
@Tyler, or Tippett..
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Murray should look on the bright side, he got a free trip out to Boston.
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Raunq12 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@Cup B4 I Die,
HAHAHA!
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It would seem that Lombardi had to make his move since the rumors (apparently true) leaked to the media, so he had no time to find a replacement, but once he does, I have the feeling Kompon (for sure) and maybe Stevens will follow Murray.
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CCM Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
@Sebastian, God I hope so. Bring in Mark Hardy!
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Reign Mafia Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
@CCM, Mark is right down the road, asst. coaching the Reign! Just sayin….
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Well there goes that.. A shake up… Good luck Murray wherever you may coach next. Now Stevens, don’t you make the same mistake now that your’e the interim coach. GO KINGS GO!!!!
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I’m sure it wasnt an easy decision, but like I said a few days ago… Onethat had to be made. TM tought our boys a D-first mentality that I’m sure will follow their individual style of play but now they are free to open the flood gates and move the puck… Good luck Terry and thanks for bringing us this far. Every good coach they can only brin teams so far and this was your time to go…
Go Kings Go…
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CCM Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
@KingzzFan, Well said.
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I’m sure TM’s perpetual “beyond self reproach position” didn’t do him any favors. Thanks TM for nuturing this team to a point, but it’s time to get off the mother’s milk and eat some red meat.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@jess,
Agree!
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This is a good first step to saving the season.
Since Stevens is taking over, I guess the Kings haven’t come to terms with Carlisle yet.
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Jumblehead Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
@Capt Jam, -1
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woooo everyone got there wish all happy yaay party and then giving messed up comments with him being fired STAY CLASSY some of you Kings fans. He only took us to the playoffs last 2 seasons after HOW MANY YEARS???? Sucks the PLAYERS pretty much did it to him not his coaching. Im actually gonna laugh if nothing changes so all of this fire TM bs will show it was not his coaching
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silk Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@Kasey9, The players didn’t do him in, TM’s coaching philosophy and strategies did him in. His comments this morning stating that “the team is playing well and that he doesn’t plan on changing anything” was the coup de grace!
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FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!
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Perhaps Kampon is next…?
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goldielocks Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
@pnm,
He should have been fired before TM.
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wavesinair Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@pnm,
He should be.
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joan fondell Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@pnm, Where’s Scotty Bowman? I’d like to get his imprint on our team! That’s a COACH!
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Good luck Terry!! I dont feel you were the cause for our dismay. Wish you the best!
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Come on DL have a plan. It should have been the whole staff, I hope your not done cause Kompon sucks and the interim coach is just as bad. TM had to go but we need new blood and no a TM clone that were stuck with for at least a little while.
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tacomakingsfan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@Meats,
Can’t do the whole staff right now.. LOL who’s going to coach? Our captains and assistants? Stevens and Kompon might be let go too but you have to give it a little more time.
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silk Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
@Meats, The new head coach will bring in all his staff. DM just needs to pick the right man. This will be the biggest decision of his career. If he picks another TM strategic clone–his head will be on the chopping block next. DL made the right decision here…let’s hope he makes the next one right also.
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you had to figure if it was gonna happen, it had to happen before the week was done due to the trading freeze on dec. 19 which probably influenced this decision to happen now…
i also hear that tim lieweke wanted to act sooner than later…
okay…
you’ve played yr trump card, boys…
let’s hope we get the response needed from those who have to play the game…
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Osaka Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@variable, I knew it was time after the Montreal game. Something had to give. Doesn’t matter what the reason, things couldn’t keep going status quo. It was the right move.
The roster freeze I am sure had everything to do with the timing.
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variable Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
@Osaka,
i agree…
we seem to be of the same mindset because i always find us agreeing on most things kings-related…(!)
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dreams do come true!
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This changes nothing short term, but I’m happy just the same Go Kings Go
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
@408kingsfan, It changes the commentary after the games! We won’t hear the noun “compete” any more, and might not hear “shot mentality.”
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408kingsfan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Oh that will be refreshing
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PP Anybody? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, the “compete” thing drove me crazy.
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Why is there so much soft heartedness regarding Murray losing his job. He’ll be paid the remainder of his contract. Now he can sit around during the holidays and get paid for not screwing things up instead of collecting a fat check for screwing them up. How many of us are making near the kind of money he is?
Now how soon do we get to the real problem? How long before Lombardi is fired? I don’t have much confidence in his ability to choose an effective coach.
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Laura Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@RussD, Lombardi, really?! He built this team. I’m afraid I don’t agree with you at all on this one. I don’t even know why I’m on the blog right now, alls it’s doing is upsetting me with peoples cold hearted reactions!
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fsd1 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@Laura, I feel you, kinda disgusting.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@Laura, He built this team that people say on paper is really good but in actuality it has done no better than any of the other Kings teams of the past. NO Stanley Cup. Nothing to really make you think that will happen anytime soon in my opinion.
I do agree that some people are a bit over the top with their joy in seeing TM fired.
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Osaka Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
@Laura, I think Lombardi is to blame with Murray for the shape of the Kings right now, I agree. I had defended Murray the last couple of years, but it has become apparent the last couple of weeks that a change was in order. No matter what the reason or who was to blame, a change was needed. It was apparent Murray wasn’t getting out of the players what he was before. This is the life of an NHL coach. They all know what this job is about and what the average lifespan of a coach is. Very few coaches last more than 4-5 years. Murray was in his 4th year so statistics show his time was up. The coach will always go before a GM (right or wrong it should be that way) and you can’t fire 23 players.
I thank coach Murray for the time he spent with the Kings and turning the franchise around.
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pnm Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@RussD, I hear there is a new Constitutional Amendment being drafted that all professional sports coaches who get fired will not be allowed to keep their remaining salary for doing nothing, but instead it will be taken by the government so other people can sit around and do nothing.
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pnm Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@RussD, I hear there is a new Constitutional Amendment being drafted that all professional sports coaches who get fired will not be allowed to keep their remaining salary for doing nothing, but instead it will be taken by the government so other people can sit around and do nothing.
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pnm Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@pnm, Sorry… not sure why that posted twice…
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Gretzky 99 behind the kings bench again, as a coach
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Goring 19 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
@Gurbo, won’t happen
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Framer Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@Gurbo, Ya he did a great job in Pheonix. Being a great player does not make you a great coach.
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Hope this stops the crying on the blog.
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fsd1 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@Lake Forest, not a chance if you know what i mean….
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Laura Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
@Lake Forest, nope, never, people will just find something else to complain about!
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tacomakingsfan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@Lake Forest,
No way!! Someone else is going to be the scape goat. Guarantee it!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
@Lake Forest, I never shed a tear, and I’m still not.
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I loved how TM turned out team around and showed them how to play defense. Unfortunately the offensive part of the game was not there. Good luck TM and I hope the next person in can transform us to a Cup contender by the time the playoffs start.
GKG!
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We need Torts!
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Is it time for a Barry Melrose comeback?
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Let’s not try not to dog the guy, he is a 61 year old coach who bled Kings colors for 4 years and helped a lot of the young guys.
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He got fired “The Right Way”
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PP Anybody? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
@Otto Ped, Touché.
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Wayne Gretzky as coach anyone?
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Lake Forest Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@CaLiSwAg, no.
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jess Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@CaLiSwAg, No way jose
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pr0cess Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
@CaLiSwAg, he has no desire to coach again, and like its been mentioned he wasnt the best coach.. love ya gretz
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Goring 19 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@CaLiSwAg, won’t happen, great player, not so great coach
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WOW. Is it weird that I both expected this but am surprised all at the same time?
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i think yr looking at a record-level of activity on this site today…
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Just gonna say this for everyone after Tuesday
Fire John Stevens! His system sucks!
Maybe because it’s gonna be exactly the same as Murray’s
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Gracias dios mio santo, ayudanos Jesus Cristo. A la VICTORIA!
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jess Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@King Sachmo Stallion Maximus The Great, break’e thee sshhains?
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King Sachmo Stallion Maximus The Great Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@jess, Lmao
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Feel bad that he got fired on the road. That’s going to be a tough flight back. Stuck on 499 too. Thanks Terry, wish you the best. Great guy.
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Stuart Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
@He Shoots, He Scores, he will live to coach another day, I’m sure of it.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@He Shoots, He Scores, Hmm….he got four shots at 500.
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DL please don’t have any of todays coaching staff stay on for more than a week, clean house dude and get in that locker room yourself and read the riot act to the players!!
Good luck TM your a good man, look at the success you had with a young team, hold your head high, it just wasn’t to be. Retire and have a good time now with no stress.
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spidey35 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
@Name optional, For what it’s worth, Home Ice reported Dean is in the locker room now adressing the players.
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DrewStopCrossChecking Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
@Name optional, This firing will be pointless if we keep the rest of the coaching staff for the rest of the season. We basically just have “Murray Lite” right now. Kompon should have been fired before Murray. We need an offensive system. The current system needs to die not tweaked.
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Why would they have waited till they got to Boston? I would have done it right after Saturday’s game.
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spidey35 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
@Chris, I’m betting Deans hand was forced from above…..
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I just want to go on record as saying that I think Terry Murray did a great job his first few years he was here, capping it off with getting us into the playoffs two seasons in a row. I think he has found his calling as a coach and I’m sure he can help other teams rebuild. It seems to really be his strong suit. Beyond that I don’t think he is a Stanley Cup head coach. All coaches have their niche, and I think we can all agree here that TM’s niche is rebuilding a team of young talent and bringing them to the next level. He certainly did that here in L.A. We wish you well TM.
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tacomakingsfan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@pnm,
+ UNO
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@pnm,
Second the motion…
Now, boys:
–Grow a pair & WIN SOME GAMES!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
@pnm, Well said. I agree, and think it would be silly to dwell on the obvious troubles this season and toward the end of last season. I prefer to look back at the solid leadership he gave a young team after Crawford, who, unlike Murray, was a disaster. I didn’t originally think he was the guy to coach to the cup, but I do think he was “the right guy” for at least two or three seasons, and I appreciate the positives he brought to the table.
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Thanks TM, It sucks you got the ax but I think a change is good. To be honest this is cause the players are lazy. I wouldn’t mind them trading Brown, a poor excuse as a captain .
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Harry Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@Vince,
Brown is a good player..but he is not a 2nd line winger (I think)
He isn’t consistent.
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Happy with the move. Hopefully the players will respond.
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we are all grateful for that TM has done for team the past few years. He helped build this team to where its at, but a change was needed. Its not TM’s fault, its the organization as a whole. Its kind of like changing goalies, even though the back-up isn’t as good, a change can spark things.
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David Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@kingsfaninsb, I agree. Thank you Terry Murray for your service. That being said… Woohoo!! It’s time to finally start scoring and building a championship caliber team.
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Thank you TM for everything! Good luck!
I think the Kings should really get Bob Boughner as the new coach. He’s won the CHL Coach of the Year twice and the OHL Coach of the Year twice. He also has NHL coaching experience as an assistant coach last year in Columbus.
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joan fondell Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
@Oscar Moller’s Beard, Interesting. Can’t really remember him… I guess he can’t be any worse. TM’s defensive style has been good…in many ways…settled the Kings down from running around like a chicken without their heads on….but need to open it up for faster play…and more rushes down the ice.
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I’m going to the game on Saturday in Detroit so it will be interesting to see how they look.
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mash-ola Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
@Kinger, I have a feeling they will still lose. Detroit is on all eight cylinders right now.
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flex Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
@mash-ola, those eight cylinders ,i mean made in detroit 8 cylinders are not good…If the attidute era with our team is over and we get The right coach ,then with 60 minutes good effort the final score shoul be 4-1 Kings.
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Good Luck, Terry. You taught these guys how to play d..but that’s about it. Time for a new coach to build on the teams strength and get these guys going. Hopefully, this will light a fire…hopefully..
Actually, I’m surprised by the firing. I wonder if Deano was forced by the higher-ups to fire TM?
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I was one of the fans asking for TM to be let go, with that being said, I feel bad for anyone losing their job and would like to thank him for developing our team and taking them to the playoffs the last 2 years……
Good luck TM, hopefuly there is a club that could use a good defensive coach.
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out with the old, in with the same!
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Interim is the key word here. No reason to believe things will change with the system by using Stevens. Hoping we get Daryl Sutter.
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dont let the door hit you in the …..well bye.
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Where is my “like” button?
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Daryl Sutter, or Tony Granato?
Also, when is Jamie hitting the exit??
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flex Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
@Harry, Tony Granato????based on what??
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He was one game shy of 500 victories as an NHL coach. sorry the team couldn’t get him there.
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As someone who has wanted this for over a year, thank you DL and thank you TM for coaching this team back to respectability. TM is a great hockey man, just not the right fit with this team any longer.
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Silence Dogood Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
@Dave, Here here! You got it right.
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This needed to be done at the latest during last season’s slump. Now this year’s failure *cough* errr coaching experiment *cough* is on Lombardi. How many years under Lombardi’s negligence must the fans suffer? I’m willing to write this season off as a big old cluster puck in exchange for bigger, more meaningful changes.
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Let’s kidnap Boston’s coach while we’re there!
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Silence Dogood Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
@Ashykon, Naw — lets take Pittsburgh’s — Dan Bylsma – come home to the Kings.
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Thanks for the time you spent here, Terry. To bad you didn’t get a last win to make it 500. Let’s move on now and make some music.
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Thank you TM!!!
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Thanks TM! You did your best and gave us two exiting years in the playoffs.
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Thanks TM!! Wishing you the best of luck somewhere else… Time for a new chapter in our attempt to one day win a Stanley Cup!!
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Well everyone got what they wanted finally. Hope all of you are happy now. I personally think it was a bad move, but then again I thought firing Andy Murray was stupid too, but hey what do I know.I’ve only been a fan of this team and hockey for 30 plus years. That being said, I sure hope this doesn’t get worse now. Because I truely believe there aren’t but 2 or 3 coaches that can fix this, and none of them are available, or are still coaching. This problem is far deeper than a coaching or management change. But hey you can’t fire selfish players right????????????
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MmmmYummy Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Thank you P90X, I’m so happy I feel like I just ate a whole battle of Prozac! Wooo hoo! But I can’t speak for everyone else. Things will get worse dude, if you have been a Kings fan for 30 years you should have faith in that.
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i’m not sure if anyone mentioned this but what about Gretz for coach?Is he even interestd in coaching anymore?
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Joe Dirt Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
@broncokings, Awesome player poor coach
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Same Dog with different fleas. It’s time that Lombardi goes too.
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Ew fire stevens
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Thank you Terry Murray for guiding this team. You are a true professional. Sucks that it ended this way. Would have loved to seen the team go further last year but after Kopi went down, that was it.
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Osaka Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@wavesinair, Agree. Good post.
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All you people are mean. Thanks Terry Murray for your class and your time. And your defensive coaching. Not all us Kings fans are rude and inconsiderate. Your dedication is appreciated.
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Don’t know if it’s just me, but it looked like the team gave up on Murray over the last few weeks. Good luck in your future endeavors Terry.
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JB must be smiling ear to ear.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
@R.T., Jim Beam?
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Thanks for the compete TM. You gave it your all and no one should knock you for that. I’ve been calling for this for some time now but still feel a little sad, after all he was our coach and his firing means we failed again. Good luck in the future.
Some of you must look up the meaning of interim. GKG!
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Dean Lombardi should go too. Thanks, Terry, for your work and your dignity, unlike some weirdo coaches. You gave us a lot of good times but haven’t unlocked the offense lately. Maybe players stopped listening. Too much passing on the pp and elsewhere. Other teams go to the net on the pp, the Kings go to the blue line where overpaid whiner Doughty fires shot after shot without success.
purpose.
Doughty’s contracr is a DL mistake. DD went backwards last year, then refused to sign unless he was paid more than Kopitar who is twice the player Doughty is. Kopitar actually plays more defense and better defense than Doughty. Penner, though showing a little life lately, is still mostly a DL bust. Even with Richards and Gagne, we needed another scoring forward to complete the roster, especially with the ever-present injury factor. But DL (or was it Anschutz, demurred.
Gt coach but get a scorer too.
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Not that I disagree with the move but it’s pretty cold hearted to have done it once Murray got to Boston as opposed to doing it yesterday.
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Is. this the first fire the blog has gone thru (including daily news days) ? Now we wll find out who can play offense
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Good luck Murray hopefully u coach again but it will be with a team the give u players who have the size for your system. Call me simple but it was kinda fun seeing Handzus and Ryan cycle the puck down low … Now let’s see what we can do with all this offensive potential on the roster .. Release the chains!!
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If anyone is looking for a further change, it wont happen soon. Stevens was brought in to take over for Murray, he will now get a fair chance to turn the club around.
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Kompon better go soon too…
This just shows that LA kings insider makes the rules around here lol… just takes us a little time
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Thanks TM & good luck!! Mike Richards should be the coach since he is out right now!!LOL But then again he does a good job telling the other players what to do even when he is on the ice.
This is a tough schedule this week to exept a different result. And with MR out god help us all in the Kingdom
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I guess the conversation between TM and DL didn’t go well today. TM thank you for everything, good luck to you, hope you can get that 500 win with other team.
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everyone keeps saying “hopefully this will open the players eyes!” but that’s really not ok. we should not have to get a new head coach every 5 or so years. there’s obviously an underlying cause that someone has been ignoring. reason? i don’t know. but i think we need to take a look at the other coaches too. soooo, in short, i’ll have fun watching the kings lose tomorrow under our new “interim” head coach….
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
@haley, Have you paid attention to the average NHL coaching tenure? It’s something like three years.
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nofreight Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
@mash-ola, nope!! keep him here
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Terry Murray was a gentleman to the end … the pressure will now transfer to Dean Lombardi … this is a business and the only outcome that management wants is wins … team is built and loaded with taletn time for them to perform to their potential …
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Paging Mark Hardy, please pick up the assistant coach’s phone.
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Sad to see a IMO classy man get fired. But DL has to do something. IMO, DL put together a roster which lacks sufficient skill and speed to be a powerhouse or to go far in the playoffs.
DL has to blame someone. We’re 5 years into a rebuild and I don’t see it. I thought last year’s team was a lot better than this years. Curious as to why since on paper this year’s should be better but based on watching that’s my opinion.
Hope the Kings do well but I’m concerned its like in football when the head coach of a poorly performing team fires all his assistants. He’s next in line. If the Kings continue playing this poorly, pretty good chance DL gets fired after his five year run.
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Kings x Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@vicarious, i agree about the issue being the personnel. I won’t go so far as to say that it lacks suffcient skill ….maybe speed, but the meshing of the personnel together just don’t quite fit right. We need to add and subtract some parts. The adding of richards + gagne – poni- zues – smitty – simmonds = not working right
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
@vicarious, Last year’s team was better at dumping in the puck and grinding than this team is.
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vicarious Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, LOL. Thank you. That explains it.
Last year’s Kings were at the bottom of the league scoring 5-5. So DL revamps the team by bringing in some lesser dump and grinders. Hunter, let go by Columbus one of the worst teams in the league, makes the Kings as a skilled top sixer. And when TM plays the guy, here I am thinking, shoot, that’s a reasonable choice based on TM’s alternatives.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
@vicarious, I’m thinking the best choice is an offense that doesn’t pretend you’ve got a bunch of plumbers, but I’m just a fan who’s watched this team for around 25 years.
Thank you for everything Mr. Murray. You are one of the best coaches in team history, and building this team into what it has become in the short time period you did is a huge accomplishment. What you taught our kids on the team about discipline, responsibility, and professionalism will be a gift they keep with them forever. You will be missed, and best of luck to you in your next endeavor, which surely will come soon.
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KingsFan Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
“That kid’s potential is going to get me fired.” -Anonymous
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Thanks for your time efforts and expertise TM. Best wishes for your future successes. You are a class guy.
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Rejoicing now- I will be having a heineken on you Terry
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Bring in Mark Hardy.
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Now who do we blame? What will everyone have to complain about? I guys you guys can all pile on Penner again.
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A change was needed, but lets not have schadenfreude.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
@Osaka, Agreed.
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I feel TM has done a ton to teach the boys a solid defense 1st stlye of hockey. That being said he has consistently asked players to do things that aren’t part of their game. Asking fro, moulson to check, weird line combos, brown, moping and westgarth/ivanas, hunter on the pp, and keeping Richardson a healthy scratch? Anyway, thanks for your hard work and maybe a coach with more emotion will help the boys score some goals. Our lineup is too offensively skilled to be ranked dead last!
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chris Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@chris,
Supposed to say Kook, not moping. Thank u auto spell correct
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chris Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
@chris, KOPI! NOT KOOK. LOL
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IMHO, TM took this team as far as he could, not necessarily as far as the team could potentially go. There just comes a point when the team no longer responds to the coach and a change is needed.
Now we’ll see if the team responds in the right manner.
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Goodbye TM. He brought the club to the next level especially defensively. Time for another coach to take them to another level. Personally I haven’t gotten over TM not calling time out last year during game 4 in the midst of that SJS comback…
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I can only echo what many others have already written: Good luck to you, Terry. You’re a gentleman…a class act, and I didn’t notice *you* taking a recent boneheaded penalty, failing to drive to the net, or blowing a defensive assignment. I wish you well.
That having been said, who woulda’ thunk that at this point in the season we’d find ourselves talking about our fired coach, with our team in 12th place? To call the season a massive disappointment to this point would be a massive understatement.
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I was hoping to see some class by the posters here, but i wasn’t expecting it, and i wasn’t dissapoointed.
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I jumped for joy when I heard this…there’s still some work to be done but man is most of it done already!!
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Thank you Terry Murray for doing and finishing what you were truly brought here to do. You’ve given us the best DEFENSIVE system this team has ever had, bar none. Would have liked to see you take this all the way, but things happen. I do appreciate all your hard work. Best of luck.
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Fired on 499 wins, had 4 chances. sorry terry but this was what we needed to do. Go Kings go!!!!
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Reading some of these comments makes me embarrased to be a Kings fan right now. Just shows how immature some you have become.
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McDonalds Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
@P90X,
Agreed. This isn’t a cause for celebration. This is a cause for shame…our team is performing so badly that the man behind the bench had to lose his job. Stop being so giddy
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Name optional Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
@P90X, There’s a lot of emotion been building up but I am sure all the fans wish him well deep down. It’s a sad day but a new era for a good run at the cup.
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Dave's a Killer Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
@P90X, the twitter, facebook, xbox junkies cannot be denied. The pursuit of instant gratification will only lead to pouncing on someone else who does not meet their expectations. Good luck Coach TM, you have done your best.
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P90X Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
@silk, This is exactly what I mean, and this is exactly why I don’t come on this site for anything except to read Rich’s articles. Because “God help me” if my opinion isn’t what some twenty something, living with his parents, using the excuse of “supposedly going to school” kid has to say.
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red49er Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
@P90X, amazing the personal attacks. How many do you really think would sit down with the man and express these feeling the way they have here? I bet Murray would beat 95% into submission. I think it was time for a change, and I’ll just leave it at that. Good luck coach.
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Coach Murray,
Thank you for everything you’ve taught your players and your best efforts to deliver. Good luck in your next gig.
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Terry – you brought the team a long way. Great job! You’ll be missed.
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Hallelujah!
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I wanted Murray out but just to show you what kind of guy Lombardi is he allowed Murray to fly all the way to Boston to be fired. Wow what a classless move. DL needs to go now.
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Mars Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
@Dan, Oh damn I didnt know that. Yeah that is plain poops.
TM had to go, sad to say my frustrations were there, but again it doesnt mean the players are safe, a new coach can really shake things up too.
But wow, cant even fire the guy at home? Brutal.
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Now I’m starting to wonder about DL. What has he won in the pro game? Never been part of a team to get to the Conference Finals. The DD contract looks worse by the day. And now he jumps ship with TM with Richards out. Yes, the offense has been meager even with MR but we just don’t have the weapons on wing to expect 3+ goals a game. My only gripe with TM was line combos, never how he handled players and coaching. If Stevens is the mastermind behind our PP, then hopefully the interim is short — didn’t like him in Philly either. I’m hearing Paul Maurice or Tony Granato as new hire.
Here’s a short fix list:
1. TM feeling the heat finally got the 1st line right today in practice: Gagne/Kopitar/Penner (DP can’t be asked to carry the puck through the neutral zone and he’s not effective at receiving the puck in the corners, so he’s gotta be paired with 2 puck carrying skilled guys who can maintain offensive zone possession and look for Penner in front of the net [like when DP played with Getzlaf & Perry for the Cup]). 2nd line: Brown/Richards/Williams. 3rd line: Richardson/Fraser/Hunter 4th: Clifford/Loktionov/Lewis
2. Very unpopular I know: Scratch Jarrett Stoll. Yes, he’s great at face-offs (but is he really gonna win 15% more than the next best guy?) and he’s been a monster in the shootout, but TM saw something in him in practice that never translated in games, especially when at point on the PP. JS is smart, gutsy and sometimes effective, but this team has too much depth at center with Richards healthy (Kopitar, Lewis, Loktionov, Fraser & Richardson – who I like on the wing). All 4 lines need a center who can stickhandle through the clogged neutral zone under pressure, and preferably a 2nd guy who has another option other than just chipping it deep for the chase.
3. Platoon goalies with PT based on performance instead of favoring Quick as #1 regardless. Ride hot hand from game to game all the way through the playoffs.
4. Scratch Scuderi every once in a while to keep him relatively fresh for playoffs, and so we can have at least a few games to see how 4 offensive D look: JJ, DD, SV & AM. Mitchell and Greene could possibly use a rest now and then and not only due to injury.
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egold44 Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
@egold44, retrieving not receiving
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flex Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
@egold44, tony granato? based on what?.how about Andy murrey.or what is wrong with sutter?
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egold44 Reply:
December 13th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
@flex, I was unaware of DL’s attachment to Sutter. I’m all for that type of motivator. The players are gonna miss TM though and regret ever wishing for a change if and when DS gets to town. But, can’t shake fact that DS coached Calgary to Cup final last season before lockout, got to Conf final only once (with SJ) but was behind that bench for all those underachieving years. Might be wrong coach for the new NHL, think he’s more suited for clutch and grab style game. If DS gets hired, let’s hope he can adapt. Lastly, do you get instinctual sense that DS is a winner? Can you envision him lifting the Cup? …I don’t and can’t. Again, I would’ve stuck with TM — thought this was a very ordinary slump, especially with Richards out. That’s why I questioned DL above.
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When you make some horrible decisions as a head coach and never admit your mistakes then you does deserve to be fired.
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wow … “mediocre team, no meat on the bone, no depth”, “Stanley Cup contenders….are you kidding me?”…not good comments about the Kings on nhl.com…Also said, was that the Kings were built all wrong and with lots of holes and it appears that the blame was put on Lombardi. They further said that Lombardi basically did the same thing at San Jose. Not good….
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Take care Terry, thanks for making our boys men, now it’s time to make them CHAMPIONS. Good luck with you future endeavors.
Now please DL make the right choice. GKG
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Thanks for everything Terry. You gave us a chance to compete every night. Godspeed
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Finally! Like I said before he served his purpose. He is good with a young team when you need to preach defense to compete every night. The kings are passed that stage at this point.
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Knew this was coming.. but I feel sad for some reason
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The right move! Thanks for the effort TM, but the team had tuned you out…
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Good luck Terry Murray,thank you for all the hard the work and dedication you put into this franchise! Sad to hear someone lose their job, but at the end of the day its business.
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It had to happen. Thanks TM for driving the ship till now. A new Captain/coach will be guiding us to the Stanley Cup! How great would it be to somehow steal Dan Bylsma from Pittsburg…
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He’s fired. He’s gone I doubt he’s reading all the goodbyes and thank yous. I could care less if he ever gets his 500th win, get’s another job, has a merry christmas or not. My focus is on our Kings and turning this around, and this is definately a step in the right direction. I can’t wait to be on the edge of my seat again watching offense and action. GKG
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Well, best wishes to coach Murray. Good guy who brought the Kings a long way but everyone knew it was time for a change. I don’t see coach Stevens sticking long as he’s just like Murray. Wouldn’t shock me if it’s Daryl Sutter or Randy Carlyle next.
And I hate to say I told you all so, but I told you all before the season started that I had serious concerns about whether Terry Murray was the right coach for this team. He has a track record of having 2 or 3 good seasons then his team takes huge steps back. It happened again this year. I just don’t think his system is offensive enough for today’s NHL.
I just hope Dean Lombardi made the change in time to save the season. This team should be winning the Pacific division, not fighting for 8th spot. But they’ll have to turn it around fast if they want to be taken seriously.
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Terry,
Thank you for developing our defense into a formidable force. You obviously understand how to do this and the results cannot be denied. I hope that in your time off, you are able to study some of the more creative and modern approaches to offensive hockey.
I have always appreciated your ability to be calm and collected. However, in the end, it might have contributed to the players in tuning you out.
Best of luck! See you in the Stanley Cup Playoffs some time I hope.
Brent
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He wasn’t a bad guy and he finally got the Kings playing well on the d side…It’s just how the business goes and when your dead last in scoring the writing was on the wall…wish you luck TM…I wished the boys would have played harder for ya…but it is what it is…thanks again TM
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Thank you Murray you did a great job, but like Handzus and Stuart and co. you were a stop gap. You did a fine job, but this year the team needs to make the next step.
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Funny how a few hours ago, nobody could stop bashing him, now everyone has nothing but love for the guy. “WE LOVE YOU TERRY”…….wow
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I’ll miss TM. He reminded me of my junior high school principal in Toronto. Thanks TM for your hard work and hope to see you back behind an NHL bench somewhere soon.
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I don’t really hate TM, but we have to do something.
I also thank TM to coach Kopi to become an all-around player, no one can deny that.
so thank you TM!
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Why is Kompon still on the staff? This team needs a complete make over and should include players as the new staff sees fit. Its time for the Kings to do whatever it takes to win the cup…..no more excuses! Its time ownership takes the team in the right direction. I would like to see a proven winner take the bench.
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Tough job coaching in pro sports, tough to see anyone loose thier job in this market time.
Odd the Kings didn’t keep him around at all in any capacity? Perhaps he is heading to Ottawa with brother Brian.
Murray needs one more win for 500 tough thier as well.
For those applauding and although this is real life the bottom line a family is effected with this decision and never a good situation.
I sure hope everyone gets what they want now in a new coach. You sure asked for it for a long time.
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TM was a good coach for this team, sadly his time was up. He wasn’t going to take this team to higher grounds , nonetheless he did a lot of good things for the team. Hope he gets offered a job within the orgsnization
Go Kings Go
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Is Tony Robbins available? We need a motivational speaker
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
@KingsOfKomedy, Tony Robbins and the LA Kings have already had a date with Marty McSorley’s curved stick.
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FabKings Reply:
December 13th, 2011 at 9:12 am
@KingsOfKomedy, NO joke, I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING!! I mean if Jack Black can think a 400 pound Gweneth Paltrow is really a 120 pound super model, then bring on Tony!!!
Seriously, teams have NOTHING to lose bringing in a self help guru type for inspiration. Someone needs to bring in 20 some odd mirrors for our KINGS to take a LONG look into.
GO KINGS GO!
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The thing that scares me is our current roster make up. We’ve got a bunch of third and fourth line slugs, with very little hockey skills, specifically chosen for this roster for the TM defensive system. The eight guys that pretty much make up the third and fourth lines have a grand total of like six goals in 29 games. Not one guy with six goals. All of them combined! In 29 games! Are they suddenly going to become skilled?
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Kings fans, I did an analysis of the Kings goals this season, mostly because in watching and attending games I’ve noticed a definite lack of presence at the net lately, and particularly “dirty goals” of the type from a stick distance from the net. I separated the games thus far into two groups, the first 19 games when we had an number of wins and decent scoring, then the last 10 starting with the loss to Detroit. I also looked at where the goals came from and put them into three groups. What we’ll call zone 3 is from the face off circles to the blue line or further out. What we will call zone two is from the circles to within stick distance of the goal. Zone 1 is stick distance or in the crease. Here is what I found:
First 19 games, average 2.52 goals per game.
Last 10 games 1.7 goals per game.
First 19 games, 25 goals in zone 1, or 52% of the goals scored, zone 2 10 goals or 21%, zone 3 13 goals scored or 27%.
Last 10 games, 5 goals scored or 29%, zone 2 8 goals scored or 47%, zone 3 4 goals scored or 24%.
So, let’s think about what this means. Effectively, the last 10 games, the Kings simply are not getting enough shots and goals from stick distance from the net. Even a team that is highly skilled and expected to score like the Kings roster this year is not going to win a lot of games getting almost 71% the goals from the hash marks/face off circles or further out. When the Kings were playing well 73% came from much closer to the net. Simply put, they are not out-working the opposition, not turning the opposition’s defense by getting in deep, and not in tight for rebounds and putting pressure on the goalies. We lost to two rookie goalies, back to back, and what I described above contributed to it. In looking at the goals from what I called zones 2 and 3, and fair number were assisted by screens, but generally speaking, if there was not a screen it would be considered a “bad goal” given up by the opposition’s goalie, and those should be “bonus goals”, not the type you depend on to win games.
Let’s hope the new coach and the players catch on to this and focus on placing bodies in front of the net. The Kings players have to get back to out-skating and out-working the opposition’s D, taking the beating in front, and jumping on rebounds. JQ and JB have got us covered. “The Time Is Now” for the offense to do their job, period.
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I think TM did a good job teaching the boys defense, but I was getting a headache from some of the constant line changes (doesn’t line chemistry take a little TIME to develop?).
Of course, I don’t think our problems were entirely TM’s fault. We’ve had issues of consistency before he came along. What was the same? DL, DL, DL. It doesn’t seem like he’s taken any responsibility for the problems with the team.
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Couldn’t see The Los Angeles Kings winning the The Stanley Cup with Terry Murray at the helm. The time is now for the team to move forward and become a more difficult team to play against. Thanks coach Murray for whatever good lessons you have brought to the team. Excited the Kings are going to have a somebody else behind the bench. Let’s go get em boys!
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WOW that was fast(not me posting). Didn’t expected this before Boston game, after yes. Thank you Terry and goodbye, let’s move on. GO KINGS!
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