Goal scoring is suddenly a problem for the Florida Panthers, who have totaled eight goals in their last five games. Of course, in last night’s loss to the Kings they were also without first-line winger Kris Versteeg, and they nearly got at least one point thanks to a strong effort from goalie Jose Theodore in particular. Do you agree with Panthers coach Kevin Dineen, that the Panthers “thoroughly outplayed’’ the Kings? Here’s how The Miami Herald and the Sun Sentinel covered last night’s game, followed by some additional postgame quotes from the Panthers’ locker room…
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COACH KEVIN DINEEN
(on the game recap…) “We thoroughly outplayed them. They were trying to run around and chase us and hack us and slash us. When you are getting outplayed as badly as they were, that’s the response. We walk out of here feeling very good about the way we played and we move forward from there.’’
(on the goaltending…) “Goaltending was a strong point at both ends of the ice. There was plenty of opportunities and their goalie [Jonathan Quick] certainly got them a couple of points and Theo [Jose Theodore] gave us every chance to win.’’
(on the physicality of the game…) “We didn’t need to get physical. All they were trying to do was cross=check and they [the referees] let a lot of things go late in the game. When you are outplaying a team by a wide margin, you stick with what was working for you and they had a real tough time handling our speed.’’
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STEPHEN WEISS
(on the game…) “We had great chances all night. … It was one of our better efforts but they just weren’t going in for us tonight.’’
(on the goaltenders…) “They were both awesome. Theo was fantastic again for us. He kept us in it when he had to and obviously their goalie played well as well and made some big saves and we didn’t have the answer for them.’’
Un, no, the Panthers did not thoroughly outplay the Kings. For a stretch of the second period, maybe, but not for the whole game. Not sure what game he was watching.
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RobSD Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:12 am
@vplaza,
The shot were almost double for the Panthers and Quick kept the Kings in the game. The Kings had some good forechecking and pressure but it’s hard to ignore the shots.
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RobSD Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 am
@RobSD,
That being said he sounds like a whinny baby. Hasn’t he only coached 20 games in the NHL? He hasn’t quite perfected his media bullsheeting yet.
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Whodawat Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
@RobSD, They had quite a few PP opps including the 4min and 2-man adv. 13 of their shots came on the PP.
Also, LA played with only 5 healthy d-man for pretty much the entire game. Mitchell is probably one of our top 2 dmen at the moment so losing him had a huge impact for the Kings.
Dineen sounds likes sour grapes to me.
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vplaza Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 am
@RobSD,
I also think he missed the rushes and scoring chances that the Kings had. And the defense of the Kings more than held up against his team. “Thoroughly outplayed” sounds like hyperbole considering that the Kings more than held their own, oh, and also won the game.
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JohnPaulSLy Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@RobSD,
Of course the shots were one sided. the Kings spent the whole second period ShortHanded. Somehow the refs put the whistles away in the 3rd… it was a joke.
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Press Box Scratch Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@RobSD, I was at the game and thought Florida had the better of the play. Doesn’t matter, we got 2 points, thanks mostly to Quick. Still, if we want to be in the Top 4 in the West, we need to do better than 40+ shots against, 40% in the faceoff circle, taking stupid penalities (two games in a row …) and ongoing inability to score. None of that has anything to do with the Florida coach, it has to do with playing up to our abilities, which most would consider enough to be a Top 4 West seed. Good thing our best player plays the most important position – JQ.
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Rookie Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 am
@vplaza,
Classless bush league response. Would expect better from an NHL coach. It’s not like they didn’t have their chances on the power play. We were only outplayed in the second period, in my opinion, and speed was the issue.
BTW, who got the 2 points Kevin?
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Hey Kevin, who won?
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Just a coach doing some cheerleading…
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Points to scoreboard and says ” Yeah, the Bright Side!”
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In other news, Brian Hayward sues Kevin Dineen for “stealing his act”
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Will Hutchison Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 9:54 am
@Nitrohockey, That’s funny!
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Shakes Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 am
@Nitrohockey, hahahah
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 am
@Nitrohockey, Funny,and this guy used to be a good player,oh well one more guy who should STFU,Hazy, hands down is the worst though.
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DesertKing Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 am
@Nitrohockey,
Very very funny!!!
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Michael J. Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:18 am
@Nitrohockey,
“Good answer, good answer” (as heard on Family Feud)
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waterndirt Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
@Nitrohockey,
Haha!!!
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40YearKingsFan Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
@Nitrohockey,
Nitrohockey takes the day!
I’ve had about 10 good solid chuckles at that and the day is still young.
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colo king fan Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@Nitrohockey,
Best.
Post.
Ever.
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KC23 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
@Nitrohockey, Thanks alot dude. Now I got to clean up my keyboard for the soda I just spit out. That was pretty dam funny.
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If i remember correctly, wasn’t it Quick that was cup checked and wacked in the back of the leg by Kopecky?
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Sam Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:49 am
@mikeyb, I can’t believe the refs let all that crap go without a penalty! I bet Quick was just hoping for an extra goal so he could go after Kopecky without risking the game. If I were him, I’d tell the refs next time they ignore his slashing, I’m gonna go after him, and you better call both penalties.
On the other hand, I wish Richards had a bit more composure and let his teammates retaliate against Bergenheim (legally).
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Waaaaaaaambulance we got a sore loser.
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#1faninvegas Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 am
@Andrew: The second coming,
Hahahaha. Haven’t heard that in an age! How u doing buddy?
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Stagger Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:19 am
@Andrew: The second coming,
He needs a waaaaaaaamburger with a side of cries!
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Not only did they not outplay us, I felt they were the ones taking a bunch of cheap shots.
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Can barely wait for February 9th.
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Wow what an A-hole…I wish our coach was an A-hole like that. Gkg
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Whatever…they lost.
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Off topic but still very funny.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player%26v%3Dwgh7LfKSj44&feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=wgh7LfKSj44&gl=US
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They outplayed the Kings significantly. Of course, the “chasing and hacking and slashing” that I noticed–the only stuff I noticed–was to let Bergenheim know as a courtesy that he’d be hearing from Brendan Shanahan.
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In the second period they thoroughly outplayed the kings and the main reason is speed. The Kings couldn’t match their team speed, yet Richardson and Lewis remain scratched…I still don’t agree with that decision. Bring them back vs. Montreal, coach.
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number 6 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
@LB,
The Kings have had speed issues for like four years now, and interesting that they struggle vs. Chicago and Vancouver who have speed. For some odd reason they do a bit better vs. SJ even though they have speed as well.
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I felt like the Panthers outplayed the Kings last night, but not “thoroughly”. Regardless, we got the 2 points. As Scuderi mentioned in the postgame interviews, there were times this season that the Kings outplayed their opponent, yet lost. So, it all averages out in my book.
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puck73 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 am
@John, Totally agree.
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KC23 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
@John, At least our coach didn’t cry like a little school boy and disrespect the other team. You would see me turn on TM in a second if he ever said something like that after a loss. Feeling good? Pffft. Feeling good after a loss is not what I want to hear from my coach … EVER.
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Someone should remind Versteeg that this is hockey. Can you imagine DB or Green taking a game off due to a broken nose?
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Perro Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 am
@bringbackbutchgoring, If it were playoffs I imagine he would play. Letang is out for a broken nose to (although it may be due to other injuries as well).
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Stagger Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 am
@Perro,
Letang also had food poisoning to go along with his broken nose. Can you imagine having both at the same time? Man that would suck.
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colo king fan Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
@Stagger,
nothing like vomit coming out your broken nose.
Stagger Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 am
@bringbackbutchgoring,
Like every other part of the body, there are different levels of a broken nose. Personally I will never give ANY NHL player a crap about missing time due to injury. If they weren’t tough as nails, they wouldn’t be in the league.
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I was disappointed in the way the Kings responded. Scuderi just stands there while Kopecky sticks Quick in the most sensitive, disrespectful area and Quick takes matters into his hands. Kopecky should have been sent a message earlier in the game, but nobody was up to the task like usual.
Also, Brown, as the Captain, needed to pummel Bergenheim as soon as the game was over. All he did was ask him “Do you wanna go…” Of course he’s going to say no, as he did throughout the game.
The opposing team needs to realize that you can’t mess with the best goalie in the league, along with the rest of his teammates. Very weak response.
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#1faninvegas Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 am
@Eric,
I feel we did respond. And Brown going after someone after a game only brings a suspension. and I don’t wanna see something turn very nasty. We did respond. Ryan Miller incident…. noone did.
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tornado12 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
@Eric, i thought the response was adequate. We won the game! Those guys have some bruises for their shenanigans, you can be sure of that. Also, you dont want to risk more penalties during a close game or possibly a suspension to one of your best players from DB. Would i have liked to see Westgarth drop those guys like a bad habit? YES, but again it was a close game until the end. Remember hockey players are like elephants and we do play them again.
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nykingfan Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:40 am
@Eric,
Going after him after the game would have probably lead to a suspension..not worth it.
We play them again…I;m sure he’ll be targeted!
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Raunq12 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
@nykingfan,
I saw JmfJ pretty much rip off Kopecker heads head after he slashed Quick.
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LA_1968 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:28 pm
@Eric, The thing between Quick’s legs wasn’t so obvious. Earlier, on the extra wacks from the front to Quick’s pads was well responded to. So was the hit to Richards. On a deal like what happened to Miller against Boston that should have been drop the gloves regardless of the other guys gloves and start throwing down.
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KC23 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:18 pm
@Eric, I may or may not agree with you. We’ll see what happens Feb 9th. That is the proper time to respond. Not late in a 1 goal game. I won’t be missing that Feb 9th game. If I was rich, I’d be going to Florida in Feb.
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Not sure why all the hate….Apart from the first couple of minutes FLA did dictate the game and were in control. Quick won the game for us. No shame in that at all…its hockey it happens. The record books are littered with games that were won by a team that was outplayed. Its the beauty of the game.
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hip-check Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
@Hipcheck, get your own name dude
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Outshooting and outskating does not win you hockey games.
Kings had quality scoring chances as well. They play a tight game.
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They did outplay us for the 1st 10mins on the 2nd period. But thats it.
Thats one of the problems I see with this team. We let the other team dictate the play. We wouldnt be chasing them and taking so many penalties if we were a puck possession team. If we were that type of team we would be spending more time in the offensive zone and that would lead to less shot against. Our D would be even better.
JMO.
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Sam Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 am
@Pesus, I agree. It feels like once we get one goal, we sit back and let them play at us. Very bad habit.
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number 6 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 am
@Pesus,
Pesus, I think you should just change the first letter of your first name, because you’ve just spoken the gospel my man
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Methinks Kevin Dineen may have taken one too many pucks to the side of the head.
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Cowboy Bill Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 am
Oh by the way, Florida is one of the DIRTIEST teams in the National Hockey League. I wouldn’t have been surprised if Quick took his goalie stick upside Kopecky’s head last night.
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gralx Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
@Cowboy Bill, Kopecky needed a boot up his….
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Cowboy Bill Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 am
@gralx, agreed
Yeah, maybe for part of the second period and the third. They had more speed for sure, but also more time on the PP so it just appeared that they were in more control. Then again two points so like whatever.
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Puck Daddy just reported that there will be no supplemental discipline against Bergenheim because his hit was seen as a “full-body hit.” That’s funny…I could’ve sworn it was the head that took the brunt of it.
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Bingram Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 am
@Gabby,
Why are you surprised. The decision came out of Toronto didn’t it.
Time to get ready for Montreal.
Go Kings go!!
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Stuart Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:26 am
@Bingram, I was hoping Shanny’s notion of justice hadn’t been polluted by TOR’s feeling about the kings, but now we know…
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Raunq12 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@Bingram,
Yup.
I think we all saw that coming
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justmyopinion Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
@Gabby, Exactly what I said would happen. That makes several Kings this year who have taken head shots, missed games and no penalties or supplemental discipline for it. (Bergenheim’s penalty was for a slash, not the hit to the head.) Juxtapose that to two Kings players getting penalties and maximum fines for hits to players who continued to play and missed no games. Yeah, I think Shanahan is being fair.
After the initial “full body” hit when Richards followed him Bergenheim elbowed him to the head for a second head hit. Somehow that was never even mentioned when the replays were shown but we saw it and played it back to be sure.
Dieen’s comment, “They were trying to run around and chase us and hack us and slash us.” is a joke. There were at least six blatant penalties that were not called on his “angels”. I wonder how he would like a slash to his crotch like was done to Quick, and the hook pulling his leg out could have resulted in a groin injury as well. Stuff it, Dineen.
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LA_1968 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
@Gabby, They didn’t look close enough. On the super slow-motion replay you could see Bergenheim straightening his leg to level his shoulders with Mike Richards head. Targeting. Toronto does have super slo mo to review the bad hits.
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KC23 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
@Gabby, Shanahan did let off DD though. He’s no Mike Murphy in my book.
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The Kings thoroughly won the game. Hacking and Slashing? How about calling the headshot penalty and then there woudln’t be as much hacking and slashing. Their skaters may have outplayed the Kings skaters. But, we did lose Mitchell and Richards. And, if you include Quick, they their TEAM did not outplay our TEAM….
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KC23 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
@gralx, My only response is … scoreboard baby
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yes i agree that there were times during the course of the game they outplayed us but take into account that we played a large % of the game short handed and missing 2 suited players sorry Kevin but if your team cant finish around the net stop blaming the other team for hacking and slashing, kopeckny wasnt exactly an angel around our net….i gather you missed the slash to JQ…rookie coach should learn not to open his mouth about the opposition and worry about his own team….we’ll see in april where your amazing team is…….
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Dang what a baby! Cry a little more, why dont you blame it on the refs too…..crybaby
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Kings WERE thoroughly outplayed by another fast and modern NHL team/coach. Scuderi basically said so in his post game interview on FSW. Anyone remember the 10 minute stretch without a shot?
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DesertKing Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 am
@KingVern,
When you are on the PK most of the game, it will definitely appear that you got outplayed. The proof is on the scoreboard and the fact that we went the entire game without Mitchell (I know, they didn’t have Versteeg) and then we lost one of our best players for the entire 3rd period. They were faster, we were tougher, we played like a team while they played as individuals. We won, they lost. We moved on, they complained. We are Kings, they are big furry kitty cats. Can’t wait for the rematch in Feburary.
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I keep thinking of Kopi getting hauled down by the back of the neck without a penalty. Don’t play so innocent Coach. Also feel that Florida should have been whistled offside before their goal.
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RobSD Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 am
@Adamic39,
I’ve never seen that happen in my 22 years of watching and playing hockey. I couldn’t believe a bigger deal wasn’t made about it. So, if the defensive team shoots the puck back in their zone it isn’t offsides? WHATTTTT?
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luuc Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:49 am
@RobSD,
Well, that part is true. If the defensive team carries the puck from completely outside the zone, back inside, the offsides is nullified, regardless of touch up. I haven’t seen a situation like that actually happen in many years, but I do remember other incidents. The problem is, much like the controversy over the high stick goal the other night, was their control? Did the kings actually take possession of the puck outside the zone, and deliberately carry it back in? That part, I’m not so sure.
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Sam Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 am
@luuc, Not so sure?! The puck hit his skate and bounced back in. No way that should have been ruled on sides.
number 6 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
@Adamic39,
Evidently Fox said it was because the Kings shot the puck back in? Thats what he said. I don’t know the rule on that one.
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Stuart Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
@number 6, I think Foxy said it was because the turnover that resulted in the puck going back into the zone was unforced. I’ve seen the Offensive team carry the puck back into their zone willingly and a few forecheckers that were headed out of the zone (but never cleared) turned and chased without a call… I have seen it happen, but last night’s struck me as not one of those types of calls, but oh well I guess.
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Of course you thought you outplayed the Kings. You had an extra man all night, even when it was 5 on 5. Go home you weak punk loser, turn on the Cartoon Network and watch your favorite show “Jose and the Pussycats.” Oh, and feel free to turn on your VCR and watch the game tape again to get the facts.
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letswinthecup2012 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:31 am
@DesertKing,
hell ya
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Actually the comments on the Sun blog are pretty interseting. Also why is it that both Florida articles don’t mention how we were playing minus a defensemen… when you add that factor along with the fact that we were killing penalties the whole game (and the calls didn’t seem to be bad ones by the ref, so that is brought upon us by ourselves), you’re going to have a really really tired D. As Foxy said on the broadcast there are shifts where you have harder minutes versus others, but all PK minutes are hard… when you are down a defensemen and killing penalities you’re going to be wiped out at the end… and it showed with Quick needing to get us through the final Florida push
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puck73 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 am
@Shakes, Myopia….The inability to see things the way they really are.
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Stuart Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
@puck73, Hey I’ve used that word more than a few times around here…
Do they sell meds for that?
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Michael J. Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:22 am
@Shakes,
Yup, no mention of LA missing their best defenseman.
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LA_1968 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@Michael J., You’d think that would wash the loss of a first line forward wouldn’t you.
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Wow, that really sours me on Dineen. He should know as well as anyone why the Kings were upset. It was a dirty hit on Richards and no one stepped up on their side to end it. Moreau was right on in the post game on TV. You make a hit like that, you stand up for yourself, and its over. Instead it drags out over the entire game. Its as good an argument as any for the removal of the instigator. Richards could have pommeled him and put it to rest.
Further, the number of shots mean a lot less than the quality. I remember many a game from the era when Sean Avery would lead the Kings in shots. Kings would score 1 goal on 42 shots because they had no skill taking the shots. There’s something to be said for quantity but I’d rather Kopitar taking 3 shots a game than Hunter taking 10, for example.
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Sam (different one) Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
@Sam, Unless of course, Hunter is taking shots to create rebounds for Kopitar to bury in the back of the net…
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LA_1968 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
@Sam, yeah I really loved Moreau’s comments. Especially the part about the ref’s telling the Kings that “you had a couple chances to “GET” him”. Classic.
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its easy to outplay a team that is in the penalty box for most of the first and second period… can’t wait for the rematch. i hope the kings come out fired up in february… Any word on MR??
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letswinthecup2012 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:28 am
@letswinthecup2012,
and we had 5 defensemen the whole game… dineen should stop acting like a kid haha
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The funny part about the Sun article is the first sentence says “The Panthers outshot, outplayed and out-skated” the Kings, yet the next paragraph starts with how the Panthers goalie made a dozen spectacular saves to keep the Panthers in it. Does that add up? If they got so outplayed why would the goalie have to make a dozen amazing saves to keep his team in it?
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Bingram Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 am
@RobSD,
Good observation
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Just like everyone, I wanted a response to Bergenheim. He’ll get his from Brendan Shanahan (textbook target of the head).
For Brown to go after him at the end of the game, like many (and myself) wanted, is completely stupid. It’s an automatic suspension for the player initiating. They DID try to go after Bergenheim, multiple times. He ran from EVERYONE, as did Kopecky (sp?). I didn’t mind the head butt that Quick gave him though…I laughed.
There was a specific reason why they didn’t go all crazy and go after guys…actually, many reasons.
1. Can’t take anymore penalties.
2. Being shortanded on both defense and offense, CAN’T TAKE ANY MORE PENALTIES.
First and foremost, you win the game if you can (which they did). Above all else, that is what you need to do. Any “revenge” is not only secondary, I suspect February 9th someone is going to get hurt.
People wanted someone to go after him, and did I, but, if the player being targeted runs away like he did all night, you CANNOT take yourself out of position causing your team to lose a close game, just to get revenge.
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Sam Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
@mrbrett7, You have to wonder at some point something has to be done with that player. You’re raising the tension in the game something fierce when an entire team is targeting a player. Things like that lead to the ugly incident with Moore and Bert years ago. Not sure there’s a solution, really – well outside of players manning up when they hit someone dirty.
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Kenny44 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
@Sam, Just for the record, Moore took on two fights with Nuks after his hit on Naslund and before Bertuzzi tried to kill him.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
@Sam, In my opinion…just my opinion. You had 2 young ref’s last night, and both lost complete control of the game. They missed countless obvious penalties against both teams, and their inability to call a safe game directly resulted in the chippiness that went on out there.
As Kenny put it…Moore not only fought once, but twice. In the “NHL code of unnwritten conduct”, it should have been done and over with. Bert went nuts.
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tornado12 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 am
@mrbrett7, good post.
tough call, but 2 reasons why i dont think there will be a suspension:
1) Ill admit i thought it looked like a good hit at first but on slow mo clearly the principle point of contact is the head, but Boogerslime didnt look like he was ‘trying’ to target the head, his head was turned and appeared to be trying to just make strong contact. In other words he wasnt ‘targeting’ the head.
2) The NHL doesnt care about the LA Kings
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mrbrett7 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
@tornado12, Apparently, there is no supplemental discipline going on. I do agree with one thing…the NHL doesn’t care about the Kings.
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They (the Panthers) may have “outplayed” us and “walked out feeling good” but they didn’t walk out with a point.
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KC23 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
@Maury, If TM ever says he feels good about a loss I’ll be joining the TM hater club.
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Stuart Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
@KC23, are you being sarcastic? Because I could’ve sworn he’s done that…
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Hey Dineen, man up to the loss. If Teddy Roosevelt were alive he’d punch you in the mouth to give you something to cry about and then call you a baby for crying cuz he punched you in the mouth.
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The Panther’s play in the weakest division in Hockey. Let see; Carolina, Washington, Winnipeg and Tampa Bay. None of the teams are the caliber of San Jose, Vancouver or our Kings. They couldn’t score on six power plays including a two-man advantage for about a minute and a half. We lost one of our top blueliners early in the first period and played without King Richards for the third period.
Coach Dineen (who?) must make his home in Orlando because he is spending way to much time in Fantasy Land.
Time for the Kings to get ready for the Canadians.
Go Kings go!!
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Is this Dineen’s first coaching job? It sure seems so.
I guess Florida’s big on “moral victories” these days. too bad because they have a pretty good hockey club..too bad their coach doesn’t think so.
Hacking and slashing..that’s what teams like us who get outplayed do? No Dineen..teams like us walk away with 2 points and laugh at your pathetic excuses..
say what you want, but you never hear our coach talk bad about another team…what a classless act he is!
just like Maury said above..
they walked out with no points!
Have a good trip boys!!!!
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puck73 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:55 am
@nykingfan, You have been on fire recently. This is the kind of passion and common sense that keeps me coming back to this site day after day !
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number 6 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
@nykingfan,
Yeah dude. Like puck73 says.
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goldielocks Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 am
@nykingfan,
I’ve been hard on TM recently but I relized that there are coaches worse than him in this league. Dineen should look at both side of the game. I admit they outplayed us offensively but we outplayed them defensively (without Michell in consideration), and goaltending is better, too. That is why they had no success on their power play (Richards also was out in 3rd). What a narrow minded coach!
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HBFan Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
@nykingfan, Next thing you know Dineen will be lobbying for “Moral Victories” to be added to the standings after SOLs. 1/2 a point for a “Moral Victory”. Maybe then he’ll stop whining.
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KC23 Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
@nykingfan, Love it, preach on brotha!
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“we dont have to be physical, we just got outhit 45-15 (I forget the exact numbers) and ran away from them all night long.”
Your players were faster because the fear gave them an extra step. You still played like girls.
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You lost Dineen.
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the griffster Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
@Steve, can you say sore loser. Dineen is a cry baby.
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Dear Mr. Dineen,
Please review the attached “Official NHL Butthurt Complaint Form”. Fill it up completely and forward to the NHL Butthurt Complaint Department for evaluation and possible action.
Warmest regards
Gary Buttman
NHL Commissioner
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Dineen = whiny cry baby. As for the hacking and slashing and what he considered uncalled penalties on the Kings, maybe he should take a look at his own team before he starts flapping. Quick took a few, and Kopi got pulled down from behind towards the end of the game and no penalties were called on the Panthers. Bottom line is the Kings walked away last night with two points.
Go Kings Go!
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Yeah. It was a good loss Dineen.
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Hey Dineen! Our goaltender outplayed you… gotta take into consideration that there are 6 players on the ice.
That being said he could have reworded his comment and not been so crass about it and I would have accepted it.
Good to see 2 points up on the board. All in all it’s just one step closer to the playoffs… let’s hope Richards and Mitchell are back in the line up soon!
GKG!
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If your going to say our team outplayed their team then say the bounces didn’t go your way…but let’s be realistic you can’t say our team outplayed theirs when their goalie plays out of his mind like Quick did last night!!!
As far as the hacking, slashing, and cross-checking happens on every trip up and down the ice (kind of like holding in the NFL)….join the big boys and stop crying about it…but a jab in the crotch or a slash on the back of the knee of a defense-less player is extremely different (clean up your own backyard before you start complaining about someone elses)…did I mind them trying to hook the puck out of Quick’s glove or pads (NO) but tell me how a slash to his knee is going to jar a puck loose or after the crotch area (well I know how that is).
Should we have struck back NO we were short-handed as is no need to strike at that time especially with a defensemen like Scuds.
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Dineen has a screw loose or something. If you win 4-0 then you probably thoroughly outplayed somebody. He said he felt good about the game but it seems more like he was hurt profoundly by it. He was rattled. Maybe I would be too if my little boys were getting terrorized by mean men.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
@LA_1968, Good call! His comments were essentially platitudes.
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Considering the vast majority of us voted Jonathan Quick as the “biggest key” to last nights game, then you have to agree with Dineen. We were outplayed and our goaltending bailed us out. I do have a problem with the word “thoroughly” thrown in there. That seems a little extreme.
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nykingfan Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
@Phillip,
If you have to choose 1 individual, it would be JQ, but remember without the D’s help and the forwards coming back, he’s not holding anyone to 1 goal.
We weren’t outplayed, but for a stretch during the 2nd period.
Again, my point earlier was if that’s his take on it, then he’s big into moral victories.
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I guess no one pointed out the scoreboard for Dineen.
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