Earlier, the subject of the consistent first line was covered. Justin Williams would like to see some consistency in his offensive game. Starting out on the first line, with Anze Kopitar and SImon Gagne, Williams had two goals and five assists in his first five games, but Williams has now gone 13 games without a goal. The work has been there for Williams, and he’s enjoying playing alongside Gagne, his former teammates in Philadelphia, but he’s still looking for some consistent production.
WILLIAMS: “When Gags came over here, I’d forgotten how much I enjoyed playing with him. He’s so easy to play with. He’s so quick and he creates a lot of space for me as well. He’s just a very intelligent and easy player to play with. He’s going to score and get himself in good positions for passes as well. Early on here, I seem to be passing a little bit more than maybe I should sometimes, trying to set up my linemates. If I get back to firing pucks myself and attacking the net a little bit more, maybe we’ll be able to score some rebound goals, and I can score some myself. That’s what I’ll be looking to do now, and get our line going and get myself going a little bit better on the goal side.’’
Looks like a case of the penner is going around the room.
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Bama Kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
@USHA@17, No, what he says makes sense. He’s been trying to be a play maker vs. a scorer. When he was on the line with Smyth, his job was to shoot while Smyth posted up in front of the net.
Speaking of which, I’m sick over the season Smyth is having. All we heard is how washed up he, Zues and Poni were. Well, 2 of the 3 are having great years and how much do we miss them in front of the net?
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Lake Forest Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
@Bama Kings, haha, define great years, please!! I do not miss Poni, nor Smyth. What I miss is having someone in front of the net.
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Jason4kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
@Lake Forest,
It’s relative. Penner/Moreau make me miss Smyth/Poni.
Lake Forest Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
@Lake Forest, haha, if there was a like button I would click it for your response.
prosmar Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 3:08 am
@Bama Kings, Richards/Gagne don’t make me miss Smyth/Poni.
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I though JW played pretty well in Dallas.
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He hasn’t played with Richards yet this season. I’m just sayin.
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puck73 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@Dominick, How was your Thanxgiving Dommer ?
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Dominick Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
@puck73, Excellent! Going to a Poly high football game tonight to see my family. Want to come?
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puck73 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I@Dominick, I will be at a bbq at @Tornado12′s parents house, but call me later.
Dominick Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
@puck73, Will do. I was right on my cousin Carma’s husband Tim. He currently does hold the record for the most former players to make college, and the NFL of any highschool coach in history. It’s a pretty big deal here and my families all gung ho about going tonight. Should be a good one.
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Scot Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
@Dominick,
Yeahhh, I think now would be about the time to give Gagne-Richards-Williams a look.
I was about to say I’m shocked TM hasn’t at least tried it at this point, but.. I’m not shocked. Just as I’m not shocked Moreau will be playing tomorrow. I would have loved if John Tortorella was our coach to hear what he would have said about Moreau after last night’s game. And you can bet Torts sure as hell would have scratched his a$$ for the next couple too!
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Scot Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
@Scot,
Sorry, after the game *2 nights ago*
Sorry again, after the *meltdown* 2 nights ago.
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number 6 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
@Scot,
Ah Scot. So there you are. Yes, I left something on the other threads (especially the one about line’s stay the same) to the effect that I’m rather gobsmacked that Moreau plays again tomorrow. Business as usual. Penalty, no problem. Penalty that allows tying goal, no problem.
If Bruce Boudreau can bench Semin for a game because of undisciplined penalties, I don’t quite get TM’s thought process here. To me it’s a way of saying ‘it’s ok, just get back at em’. The problem is, it Wasn’t ok even before the Dallas game. I’d of thought that that would be the perennial straw. But I guess not. Good luck to Moreau tomorrow to stay out of the box. Not just in a tight game, but for the whole game! Honestly, you couldn’t make this stuff up.
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Scot Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
@number 6,
Where’s the accountability around here? If there is accountability going on in the locker room that we don’t know about, great, but they should publicize it, because from the outside looking in, this looks really bad. But I don’t think there really is any. I think you hit the nail on the head with TM’s, “It’s ok, just get back at ‘em.”
I’d like to hear how Moreau’s teammates felt about that penalty, and the others he’s been taking this year. I’m sure they aren’t stoked he’s still in the lineup, either.
Scot Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
@number 6,
Exactly — Semin, a world-class talent. I was shocked by that too, but the guy doesn’t put his heart into it. If I’m not mistaken, Ilya Kovalchuk was healthy-scratched one game last year by the Devils. Also, the Avs healthy-scratched Chris Stewart for a couple games last year before they traded him to St. Louis. The Isles healhty-scratched Kyle Okposo last week for THREE GAMES.. And what did he do? Come back with a 2 goal, 1 assist performance. It’s called accountability, & it doesn’t seem that this coach places much emphasis on that.
number 6 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
@Scot
Hey Scot. What’s accountability. I hold mySelf accountable (too much so) when things don’t go right in my work. I have not been one of the anti-TM people on this site. I like him as a human being (from what I can tell) and know that he has some positive attributes as a coach, but if he isn’t gonna hold a veteran player accountable (Moreau has had one penalty avg every other game he’s played…. oh, did I mention no goals) then my vision of TM may gradually start to change.
I was absolutely amazed that he lets him go the next game after such a needless and costly penalty.
I was (as you can tell) thinking about it. To me it sends the following message to the team: ‘here’s what I think of that type of play….. it’s ok’.
It’s at times difficult enough being a Kings fan w/o that sort of nonsense. Had it been one of say two or three minors he’d taken this year I’d probably be tempted to cut him more slack, but there’s a point, and then there’s a point.
Paul G Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
@Dominick, I would love to see a Gagne-Richards-Williams line
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Just a poke in the wound: Ryan Smyth has 12g 12a in 22 games… That would tie him at #1 for points and put him at #1 in goals on the Kings…
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ta Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
@zulov, Yeah but Smyth always starts off hot and then later tires out. He did the same here the last 2yrs.
Question will he score 25 or more goals????
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Bama Kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
@ta, Unless he’s injured, he’ll pot 30. I’ve been watching a lot of the Edmonton games and man, are they fun to watch. He looks like a kid again.
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Gustavo Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
@Bama Kings,
Who are we kidding????
If it wasn’t for Ryan Smyth’s trade request, we’d not have Mike Richards and/or Gagne.
Best wishes to Mullet Man, hope your team chokes vs the Kings in the first round of playoffs next year..:)
Lake Forest Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
+1 Gustavo!
Duckbasher Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 8:27 am
@Bama Kings, Edmonton plays the kind of game I wish we did. They are for real and Ryan Smyth is a big part of their success.
PP Anybody? Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 12:16 am
@zulov, If he was on the Kings this year, he wouldn’t have 12g 12a and everyone would complain about how old and slow he was cause he wasn’t scoring for us.
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BobKnob Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 10:40 am
@PP Anybody?,
well, he IS old and slow.
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My issue with the Kings is they don’t have true top line wingers. I think Gagne, Williams and Brown are all solid second liners. A line of Gagne-Richards-Williams would be nice and if we put Kopi with Browner and trade for a true top line sniper. Right now the Kings aren’t consistent enough to compete with the elite teams cause Kopi and Richards have to do everything offensive. We are so close to being an elite team I can taste it, as always GKG!
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g smith86 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
@Canadian King, I like the idea, but where can we find somebody willing to deal? Maybe Jeff Carter or Rick Nash–doubt Columbus will do that–J speeza-(got that speeling wrong im sure) in Ottawa? They are many teams out there struggling right now, but I am not sure if they are willing to deal
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Bama Kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
@Canadian King, We have the assets to make that happen. I would kill for DD and Bernier to be moved. I know that is a risk in Bernier, but Quick can win us a Cup. You move DD and Bernier, you get anything you want in return. So long as it’s a guy with some yrs. left on his contract, I’m more than OK. In fact, you may be able to get a 30G scorer for DD straight up.
The irony is, had we traded DD 5 months ago, we could have walked away with Vanek or someone of that caliber st. up. Now, that’s a reach.
I’ll always love the Schenn for Richards type moves. Trade potential for reality, even if you don’t quite get back an equal ratio in the long run, you win by having sure bets in return.
Richards for Schenn was BRILLIANT!
Do another DL. Do a DD for a 35 / 40 Goal scorer. Add Bernier in and we’ll shore up our 3rd line.
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JD Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
@Bama Kings, quick can,t even win a playoff series, and you have him winnng the cup? trade quick right now, while his value is still high
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Jason4kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
@JD, Ha ha. You’re talking about the vancouver series ( way more talent than we had) and the Sharks series (no Kopitar)….Quick will stand on his head when the rest of the them is ready, I believe this.
Jason4kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
@JD, Them = team.
JD Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
@JD, i’m talking his whole playoff career 4 wins, 8 losses, 3.39 gga, 900 save percentage, not exactaly patrick roy numbers
Wilmonde Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 12:57 am
@JD, I’ve seen comments like this before, and I’ve never understood why you would expect a goalie to be able to win an entire series on his own. If you’re going to win a series, it has to be a whole team effort, and sadly, we did not have a whole team effort in our series with the Sharks (I flet we had a good effort with Vancouver, but they outgunned us by a wide margin). If anything, we can thank Quick for “stealing” an extra game in San Jose and for keeping the series itself relatively close, but unfortunately for him (and us) the rest of the team just didn’t show up like they should’ve. Blame it on what you want (Kopi getting injured, Brown not stepping up, Penner not living up to our expectations, blowing that crazy lead in LA) but Quick played very well in our last playoff outing, especially when you consider the effort of the team in front of him.
rick Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
@Canadian King, I agree with you. Kopi and Richards are A+. Our top wingers are somewhere around B, or even lower. As has been the case seemingly forever, we still need a winger who is a 30 goal+ guy.
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Duckbasher Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 8:36 am
@Canadian King,
unfortunately with the amount we pay Penner and DD we can’t afford to go out and get any proven snipers.
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Oh and all of you south of the border I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
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Scot Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
@Canadian King,
Thank you!
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Lake Forest Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
@Canadian King, Mexico?? lol
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Dominick Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 12:40 am
@Canadian King, Thanks. I hope when you guys had your thanksgiving, it was outstanding. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas in Canada. Go Kings!
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rumpa#19 Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
@Canadian King, Tweet Scott Gomez .
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I’d like to see Williams do less stick handling and fewer spin moves, especially in the defensive zone where he has been prone to cough up the puck this season.
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Duckbasher Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 8:37 am
@Forum67,
So true. He used to be able to get away with more of that but this season not so much.
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I admit I am one of the first to chew up TM for switching lines up, BUT I would for curiousity like to see
Loktionov-Kopitar-Brown
Gagne-Richards-Williams
like I said – curious
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Jason4kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
@jimrad, It’s not crazy. Not like we’re filling nets as it is.
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I’m not worried AT ALL about JW’s play. I think he’s playing well, just not getting any goals. He’s got a ton of assists. Just as he said, he seems to be passing the puck too much. Not worried about him at all. Looking forward to tmorrow nights game! Glad the Ducks got a good spankin today LOL!
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408kingsfan Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
@Laura, Wasn’t that game awesome? I hope the Blackhawks will be overly confident going into tommorows game. And yes I agree, Williams has been playing good and the goals will come.
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Purple and gold Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
@408kingsfan, Lets just hope the kings play all 3 periods cause the hawks looked really sloppy for the first two but came back strong in the third.
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Dominick Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 12:36 am
@Laura, One of the better players at getting penetration on the Kings roster. I agree, nothing to worry about with Willy. He’ll get his points.
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JW you tell Gags for me to hustle after loose pucks, he may quick and easy to play with but effort is required all over the ice.
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Well it sounds like JW has it all figured out, less passing and more getting into postion to shoot himself. You can’t score goals if you don’t take the shot.
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The Kings need JW to start putting the B I T B. He needs to shoot more like he is saying…don’t talk about it, just do it. Kopi is so darn good it’s sick and he is lucky to playing on a line with him. He should be producing much more for this team…I, for one, feel that he will, along with the rest of the 3 and 4 liners. The real question is…Has anyone seen J Stoll? I mean where the heck has he gone?!!
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Jason4kings Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
@g smith86, He bought his visor from the same place JR bought his skates.
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g smith86 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
@Jason4kings, i remember when JR couldn’t skate?!!! That’s hillarious!
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#=qasdm sapS, S, LFD,MEMFLSfedfwmls;w]dfmgrgkdamkrkfd,;sd,f;kr where IS STOLL
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rick Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
@kinginsaltlake, Totally agree with you!!!
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DesertKing Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
@kinginsaltlake,
May I mamu dogface to the banana patch? – Steve Martin
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KC23 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
@DesertKing, Well, EXCUUUUUSE MEEEEEEEEEEE.
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g smith86 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
@kinginsaltlake, sorry man, Im a lberal
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KC23 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
@kinginsaltlake, Stoll? he still playing for us? I thought he was traded to Edmonton for … for … someone secretly injured, but DL will likely get the last laugh with TamBULLlini having to give DL a happy meal as ordered from the league office.
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Dominick Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 12:32 am
@KC23,
I think Dean was more concerned with getting something, than he was with actually getting something that was worth anything. Loved the happy meal reference. That’s basically all it boiled down too, and DL still got to say “told ya” even though Tambleweenie pulled the fine out of the loose change he found between the sofa pillows.
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KC23 Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 7:48 am
@Dominick, The way I see it, DL embarrassed himself making a mountain out of a mole hill. At least that is how the league viewed it by their response. I’m pretty sure TamBULLlini got the last laugh. Although Fraser has turned into one of our better bottom 6 forwards (although mostly because of others playing poorly than Fraser being all that great).
I’ll be the last post, just to boogie the streets
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hey Kinginsaltlake, if we need to find J stoll we should just sound the alarm and issue the S O S
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Well if we felt bad about our last loss the Ducks fan(s) must feel terrible about their 3rd period collapse versus Chicago. At least we got a point
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Kingsfanone Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 9:53 am
@Shakes,
I hope the Hawks shot their wad last nite. 4 goals they scored in 8 minutes tels you where the Quacks are thin at right now. What, 6 losses straight? They won’t show the seating area above lower levels on TV anymore. I hope Rich doesn’t take pictures of the upper levels there, he’ll get a press box camera ban going there too!
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Say goodbye to decent NHL ice, welcome back NBA. As much as i love hockey, I for one love, all sports and am glad to see the NBA back. Go Lakers!
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KC23 Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 7:45 am
@KH, I’m happy for the blue collar workers that need the NBA to stay a float. NBA players and owners … couldn’t care less.
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kinginsaltlake Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 8:14 am
@KC23, I must agree. The NBA means nothing to me, but for those who livelihood depends on it, good for them.
Tonight I’m going to my first ECHL game of the season. Yes The Aces from Alaska are in town. Although minor league hockey is NOT the NHL, it’s still competive and fast. Still hoping for the day the AHL decides to have a western conf. I know the majority of hockey fans are on the east coast, we here on the west side need our hockey too. West Siiide Playeaa!
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It’s time to move up on top..FAN..enjoy it, GKG.
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Okay big day, “game day”…….GKG
I still cannot believe Richardson and Lewis is out and Hunter and Moreau are in??
Crazy but time will tell if TM has made the right or wrong choice…..
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kinginsaltlake Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 9:39 am
@Harty, Moreau playing in tonight’s game? What a joke! What has this guy done? Not a damn thing from where I sit. Lewis is a better player, yet can’t find the back of the net, oh that’s right none of our secondary scorers can find the back of the net.
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Off Topic, but looks like basketball will be played this year……. craptacular!
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