The Kings had a team meeting at the rink this morning, and Terry Murray said he will go with the same lineup against Dallas that he used last night, except for Jonathan Quick in goal.
The Kings have not heard anything in terms of supplemental discipline for Drew Doughty, for his hit on T.J. Oshie last night, so it’s doubtful that any is coming. More notes and quotes to come, including a look at the Kings’ new defensive pairings.
I’m sure a few Kingsfans will be disappointed that DD doesn’t get a spankin for being naughty. Probably won’t stop the complaining though. Good thing we never had Chelios on this team, or some people would lose their minds.
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Gokings Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:07 am
@Dominick, I think Doughty will see at least 2 games possibly 3.
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lafan13 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
@Gokings,
from DarrenDreger “NHL release: Doughty fined $2500 for crosscheck on Oshie.”
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jayhay Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:31 am
@lafan13, so is he now considered an “offender”? Meaning borderline checks in the future will be done by a “repeat offender”, rendering less margin for error?
VanKingsFan Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
@lafan13, Doughty walks around with that much in his wallet I bet. $2500 fine is basically nothing and doubt it acts as any kind of “lesson”
Gokings Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 am
@lafan13, Good for us. Thought for sure we were going to lose him for a couple games. Go get a win tonight boys!
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:23 am
@Dominick, It’s for the good of the game that he gets the same discipline we’d expect with anyone else. If they looked at it, and they think it doesn’t deserve discipline, that’s fine, but I wouldn’t want Dewey handled with kid gloves. It would be bad for the sport.
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Interesting…they should at least fine doughty since he make way too much money. that was a stupid play on doughtys part with the game seconds from being over.
also, not sure why the versus guys kept saying these teams dont like eachother, there’s not been much history of any extra stuff between them before (maybe the blues didnt like being beat 5-0), but now with the late Brown hit at the end of the 2nd and the late doughty hit, maybe they actually really wont like eachother.
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Goring 19 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:02 am
@Sebastian, to this day I still despise Geoff Courtnall for elbowing Jamie Storr in the Kings/Blues 98 playoffs. Although Sean O’Donnell made him pay.
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Michael J. Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:09 am
@Goring 19,
’98??? Man do I feel old… Thanks a lot.
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Goring 19 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:13 am
@Michael J., lol, “time waits for no one, and it won’t, wait for me…” -The Rolling Stones
Sebastian Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:13 am
@Goring 19, agreed…a fan will remember this, but players dont care about something that happened between the teams that long ago.
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Goring 19 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:14 am
@Sebastian, true, just saying, fans never forget, that’s all
Michael J. Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:14 am
@Sebastian,
It literally changed the series.
Michael J. Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:15 am
@Goring 19,
Fire Robinson! for not taking a timeout or changing goalies???
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BluLiner Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:19 am
@Goring 19, Made him pay? The game went from 3-0 to 3-4 because of O’Donnell. Please never mention that play again!!!!
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Goring 19 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:31 am
@BluLiner, true, I guess we payed in the end. But then again they smoked us in that series, that’s why I still have animosity towards the Blues and their stupid bell they ring every time they score a goal. It’s sort of like the beat l.a. chant with the sharks. It’s little stuff I know but it gnaws at me.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:24 am
@Goring 19, Got that right. I threw a perfectly good radio on the ice that day–only time I’ve ever been that angry and/or thrown anything.
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fsd1 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:09 am
@Sebastian, The Brown hit was perfectly legal, there was still time, no horn had sounded, and just the statement that they should fine doughty because he makes alot of money puts your comments in a special catagory all by itself. If DD doenst make that hit maybe they score to tie things up.
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jayhay Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:20 am
@Sebastian, i think those reports came from Engblom, who was ice-side and heard all the banter. I could totally see those reports being true. StLouis, who is already a take no kind of crap team (following their leader Backes) and taking on a stronger personality w/ coach Hitch and already being a big big squad.
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PCloadletter Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 am
@Sebastian, Brown’s hit was not late. It came right before the end of the period. It was brilliant because the Blues player ended up slashing BRown and taking a penalty while the Blues were already on the PP.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:26 am
@Sebastian, The Brown hit wasn’t late. They replayed it and showed it was well before the buzzer.
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Seabass Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am
@Sebastian, Not sure the versus team knew much about anything. They talked about Mike Richards days in Dallas.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:38 am
@Sebastian,
They did.
$2500.00
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If so, then Drew dodged the proverbial “bullet”. IMO it was close to being a hit that warranted a suspension but hey, we’ll take the no-discipline if that’s the case.
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It would be good to see more of Bernier.
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SpencerMaze Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am
@LA_1968, Agreed. Love Quick but if I see another back-to-back with JQ in net I may scream. JB is too good to be collecting dust at the end of the bench.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am
@SpencerMaze, I don’t want to see back-to-back nights with any single goaltender. It’s senseless. That, and Murray has been acting like he’s afraid to start Bernier, which is nuts. There IS a middle ground, and Murray can’t seem to find it.
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SpencerMaze Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, You bring up a good point. It does kinda seem like TM is afraid to start JB. Really hope this is not the case. He literally kept us in the game on many different occasions last night.
After looking at the replay, I don’t think DD’s hit will warrant action. He didn’t really follow through and the contact didn’t seeme that significant. That being said, DD does have to be smarter and not put him himslef and the team in a position like that where his actions can be interpreted as one way or another.
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Factor out that it’s a Kings’ player…I’d be interested to hear from Brendan Shanahan or Rob Blake why there would be *no* supplemental discipline for Doughty. It sure looked very similar to recent plays when they did hand out a fine or suspension. If you haven’t gone to nhl.com once in a while to watch Shanny explain a decision on and with video, I recommend it.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
@Mel Powell, I agree. It should be standard for them to explain themselves on the NHL web site so people know what factored into their decisions.
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Mel Powell Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, And it is…when they issue a suspension. I haven’t read the news release on the Doughty fine yet, so maybe it’s there, but I’m wondering about the rationale for the non-suspension.
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Since the refs handed out only a 2-minute penalty, and not a major, maybe that was the dtermining factor in no suspension?
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…not heard anything in terms of supplemental discipline for Drew Doughty, for his hit on T.J. Oshie last night, so it’s doubtful that any is coming.
…^(from article)^ I don’t get the above
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SpencerMaze Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:07 am
@petemagoop, What don’t you get? RH is stating that he and the team believe that no suspension of DD is coming. Which is good news to Kings’ fans…..isn’t it?
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petemagoop Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:11 am
@SpencerMaze, to come to that conclusion because you haven’t heard yet is my point – and of course no suspension is good for the Kings, but I do believe he is going to get suspended, and rightfully so I may add
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I am as big a Kings fan as there is and like Doughty a whole bunch. That being said, I think a suspension is warranted according to the way the rules are set up currently.
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Michael J. Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:17 am
@puck73,
How about changing the armor… errrrrr… equipment the players use today and let them play hockey the way the game is meant to be played?
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I lone it. Kingsfans wanting an explanation of why their own players didn’t get suspended. Probably because Shanny didn’t feel it was necessary. If it makes anybodies Christamas wishlist the days not over yet, and Santa still has time to make you guys happy campers.
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puck73 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:10 am
@Dominick, I wont be doing any cartwheels if he gets supended, I just think according to the rules currently, he should be.
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Michael J. Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:12 am
@Dominick,
I’m thinking that some just want to see DD go a few days without pay and that they care less about the games
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Dominick Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:21 am
@Michael J., That’s my line of thinking here. Screw what the league thinks, he makes too much money.
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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
@Dominick, Sounds like sour grapes are still on the menu for some.Even if it hurts the team,unbelievable.
kingszzz Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
@Michael J., well, I think those who actually “watch” the games want to see Doughty sit because we DO care about the games. He’s soley responsible for at least 5 or 6 goals due to poor positioning and his +/- ranks 452nd.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:31 am
@Dominick, We want the league office to explain their reasoning so we can better understand. What’s wrong with that? Without any logic, the same kind of play could happen going down the playoff stretch, and the same player could be suspended three or four games. The truth is a good thing.
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stupid play on DD behalf…he should know better or he will start having a bullseye on his back,
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Drew fined $ 2,500… Players must not even blink at that.
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I liked the hit at the end of the game. In fact, I wish there more dirty play. It would make the game much more exciting to see actual hatred and revenge…
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Ian Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 am
@Eric, Go watch WWF (or whatever they call it now).
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nykingfan Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 am
@Eric,
would you still think that if your kid was playing and got plastered?
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i thought DD would get something, especially if Oshie was injured. Kulka’s Korner reported last night that Oshie seemed “fine”, so perhaps DD did dodge something here. i think lost in all this, maybe the next biggest thing after GP missed, was the “repeat offender” label, which sometimes can really limit the way you’re able to play, because the microscope is on you in a way that wasnt before. To be labeled an offender now, carrying that label moving forward, so everytime there may be something on the edge that enters the conversation, can be very detrimental.
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Is it just me, but ever since we called up the Russians KINGS HAVE BEEN PLAYING GREAT HOCKEY! Detorit game wasn’t even that bad compared to other losses this year!
MR is playing great with Loki, his speed gives MR more room to play & his pts have shot up since Loki & MR team up!
Speed is the key to playing two-way hockey, TM keep the russians, if you send any of them down, losing strek #2 will start!
TM mistakes this season. Not playing JQ after 3 game shutout!
Sending SV DOWN when he was just getting hot
Relying on Penner game this year…
Not benching DD for his mistakes, sitting others for the same mistakes!
Playing NJ STYLE hockey.
TM good ideals this season. Opening up the game the last 7 games
Calling up the Russians
Putting Loki with MR
Using SV on the power play!
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jackj43 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:39 am
@Sammuch, Do you really think players going up and down is a TM decision?
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Harty Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@Sammuch, don’t think so, both Russian’s are too small..very creative but will not handle the long haul for the entire season.
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FdoFmFull Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
@Sammuch, If only that line (2nd) had a right winger with similar “hockey IQ” as those 2 players!
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League just announced Doughty fined $2,500 for hit on T.J. Oshie.
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you can’t hit a player anymore with the promise of getting suspened. i remember when this was a contact sport. he got up . no ambulance was needed. dd got 2 minutes, case closed. if shannan keeps this suspension thing going he’s not gonna last the full season as ” judge” of the hits and sticks calls.
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Fantasy hockey tags from rotowire are sometimes outrageous! This is what it says about MR.
“Richards seems to be enjoying life in his new city much more than former teammate Jeff Carter, but, in fairness to Carter, the bars are better in Los Angeles than Columbus. Kidding aside, Richards is proving to be the steady producer the Kings hoped for when they acquired the veteran, as he has six points in the last four games. Roll Richards with confidence.”
I dont know why they would bring up the bars, pretty horrible and unprofessional really..
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California Royalty Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 am
@Michael_DD8, It’s not relevant in terms of fantasy, but you don’t remember the speculations about him and Carter in Philly?
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$2,500 fine… no biggie. Pocket change for him.
Big one tonight boys!
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puck73 Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
@California Royalty, He is very fortunate, and so is the team.
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California Royalty Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:20 am
@puck73, I don’t think so. It’s not like Oshie was going directly in to the boards. There was a bit of an angle. It’s not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be.
Chris Stewart only got 3 games for his hit on Kronwall a few games back. That was night and day compared to Doughty’s hit on Oshie. Kronwall was going directly in to the boards.
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BREAKING NEWS
DD fined $2500 for Cross Checking, According to NHL.Com
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The hit wasn’t that bad, which is why DD only got the $2,500 fine. It only looked bad because Oshie was shaken up a bit and was down and holding his shoulder… but let’s not forget, Oshie’s the same guy that was crying on the bench when a puck hit him on the hand.
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Well you guys get your fine, I don’t care what dumb check or illegal hit one of our players does I’m still going to hope that they don’t get punishment. I can’t believe some of you were actually calling for a suspension?
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California Royalty Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
@KH, I know… A lot of people on here who hate Doughty probably wanted/expected him to be suspended for the remainder of the season. Haha
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nykingfan Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:12 am
@KH,
I’m with you..No kings playr can do anything bad..but I do understand people’s take on it. If you look at it objectively, you can make the argument. I look at things only thru Kings colored lenses..notrhing’s ever wrong!
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Hmmm, i expected at least Richardson to be in instead of Hunter… Maybe Lewis as well instead of Moreau…
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Steve C Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@outsider, I didn’t like it when Trent could not chase down Backes hard when Backes had a great chance to score in the 3rd period but liked Trent’s pass from the end boards to set up Clifford in front of Halak. Trent should be more resposible defensively.
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outsider Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
@Steve C, and faster…
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The hit by DD was stupid it the games was over and you never want to see another player get hurt. I think all of us Kings fans would be pissed if they did that to kopy at the end of the game. Feel free to make a difference out there in a good way Drew
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