Only last night’s scratched players were on the ice this morning because, as the Kings prepare for a third game in four days, Terry Murray opted for off-ice workouts today instead of on-ice practice.
As noted earlier, the Kings will make a couple lineup moves tomorrow. With Scott Parse going on injured reserve, Colin Fraser will be activated and go into the lineup as the fourth-line center. Trent Hunter will also play, as the third-line right winger next to Jarret Stoll. Murray said he had not yet decided on exact line combinations or who will come out of the lineup. Jonathan Quick will start in goal. More notes and quotes to come…
come on Kings get a W
Play harder than last night game ..
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Anjin Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
@KingsFanFTW, this team obviously needs more centers. How many do we have, 7 on the current roster now with the addition of Fraser?
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
@Anjin, lol no no 7 not enough we need the whole team full of Centers if one gets kick out we still got more
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cjms Reply:
November 10th, 2011 at 8:59 am
@Anjin,
Kopitar, Richards, Stoll, Lewis, Richardson, Fraser…
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dont see a reason to not start bernier but hey lgk
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KingSurfer Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
@Stop the Puck, Unless you actually believed Murray when he said he’d go with the “hot hand”, it probably has something to do with Quick being our #1 goalie?
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TRuskowski Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
@KingSurfer, Neither one is hot. Bernier has yet to give up less than three goals. So go with the guy with the better record/goals against average..
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JD Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
@KingSurfer, Soon as murrays gone, quick will be too
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iKings Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@Stop the Puck, I didn’t see a reason why to play Bernier when Quick was playing so well. Quick has been playing really good still and should get the nod against tougher teams.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
@Stop the Puck, i dont see a reason why we have to throw either one under a bus or a reason to care who in net
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Shakes Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@KingsFanFTW,
+1000
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Bay area kings fan Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
@Stop the Puck, bernier hasn’t proved that he can beat out quick … I agree bernier is good but la might not be for him since he’ll Just be backing up quick …
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
@Stop the Puck, If he was stellar last night I would have agreed with you. But he wasn’t. Quick is the man.
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simonsez Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
@Stop the Puck,
Quick is better – that’s a pretty good reason.
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SLIM Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
@simonsez,
Not sure that we can make a fair comparison yet…
Quick was just average in previous 5 games…
He game up 3 goals consistently…
We see more of Quick and therefore ..it’s hard to really judge..
Quick would get us more in return cause he has proven himself…
Bernier hasn’t been given the same chance to prove himself…
I like both just trying to be fair…Quick get too much adoration from certain fans..
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JD Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
@SLIM, in the end players are judgeed by how they do in the playoffs, quick has just been average, or below average in his playoff career
Let’s hope Hunter and Fraser play with a chip on their shoulder.
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Fraser will be under microscope with all here to bash him. Heres to him playing a great game!
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KingSurfer Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@Lake Forest, Fraser will look better than Hunter, but that isn’t saying much…
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KingMe20 Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@Lake Forest,
I have no opinion of him, in reality. I’ve never seen him play, and if Ryan Smyth didn’t want to be here, that’s got nothing to do with Fraser, and he’s also not the one who deceived the Kings when they made that trade. That’s on Steve Tambellini.
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Lake Forest Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
@KingMe20, agree 100%, but I still expecting the bashing to commence.
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Why not call up Voynov??????
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bmova Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain, B/c not only do we not need defensemen, it’s in his best interest to play 25-30 minutes a game in Manchester than to sit in the press box at Staples.
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Good luck Fraser and Hunter, show up with a attitude and have some fun. Go kings
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I hope Fraser plays well, but I don’t expect him to get more than 3-5 minutes of ice time. It’s such a waste. Bring up Lokti to center the third line, move stoll over to wing, and you still have Lewis to center the 4th line. I guess they still want a checking team instead of being able to roll 4 lines that could actually score.
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Alex Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
@Winger23, Interesting…Give it a try.
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There you go Waves!
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wavesinair Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
@Dominick,
Nice! Lewis needs to get more assertive. Maybe in the end he’ll be a winger as you indicated. I’d just like to see him find that grit needed on the 4th line. I was hoping it would develop coming out of camp, but I just don’t see it. Either that, or start finishing and move to the 3rd line…
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Murray, PLEASE leave the too two lines alone! I realize with injuries you have to make a couple small changes, but obviously there was a little chemistry flowing last night and it will get better the more the lines play together. Maybe sit Moureau if Hunter must play. Good luck to Fraser! GO KINGS GO!
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Stuart Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
@Brownkingsfan, I can’t imagine that this little shifting will have any effect on the top 2 lines… I’m thinking EM will sit one or two out…
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Bradapiller Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
@Stuart, I’m thinking Lewis will sit a few. EM got some good chances last night and seems to be stirring a lot more up.
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Ari Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
@Bradapiller, Lewie was a Beast last night on the pk
bmova Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
@Bradapiller, I don’t really see what EM has done to say he deserves to be the third or fourth line LW. I’d rather see Richie-Stoll-Hunter and Clifford-Fraser-Lewis.
Should be interesting to see what Fraser can bring, hopefully he can bring a touch of scoring
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Gagne – Kopitar – Williams
Penner – Richards – Brown
Clifford – Stoll – Richardson
Hunter – Fraser – Lewis
Let’s see if Fraser or Hunter can do anything. If not, bring up Loktionov and let the kid play. May as well bring Voynov back as well so they can both score goals and celebrate in Russian…
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Harty Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
@dcaps55, more like this…….
-gagne, kopi, williams
-clifford, richards, brown
-penner, stoll, richardson
-hunter, fraser, lewis
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Alex Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
@dcaps55, Not sure if Hunter is the wright pick for this game. He is too slow. Loktionov should be on the roster and playing regular shift as the 3d line center.
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KingTrojan Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
@dcaps55, I like what I’ve seen from Moreau. He’s played better than Clifford. Sit Clifford for a game.
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bmova Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
@dcaps55, Hunter is not a LW, he plays RW. I don’t think it’s right to throw players in positions they’re not used to playing; especially one who has been a scratch the last few days.
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Watch Fraser turn into exactly the kind of defensively sound, tough, gritty winger this team needed…
Also, is this the final act for Parse? I mean seriously, how many guys can go this many seasons on IR?
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Helvetica Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
@Helvetica, I meant forward not winger. But whatever.
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DanD Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@Helvetica, See – Justin Williams. See also – about 50 other NHL players.
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Alex Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
@Helvetica, Well Fraser sure can skate and he might surprise couple of people…hope
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By the way! Manchester won this morning 4-3. What was up with that 10:30 am e/t start ?
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Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Also Linden Vey got the game winner. Way to go Vey! Go Manchester!
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Shakes Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
@Dominick,
maybe they were accidentally sent to Berlin to play their games?
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Simarosa Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
@Dominick,
It was “education day” at the Verizon today. Just what hockey fans love to hear, 3k screaming kids at a hockey game. The Monarchs won the game for a change!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
@Dominick,
And awful quiet today in the blogosphere, eh Dom?
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Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@Kingsfanone,
Just tryin to do some scouting on how our boys in Manchester are doing. It was radio only, and I love when there playin on the Kings off days, but geez that game was early over here.
That would of made my night to listen to it tonight instead.
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SLIM Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
@Dominick,
where do I hear Monarchs on radio..
What’s the call letter’s?
Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
@SLIM,
Next 2 games at 7 pm friday, and saturday.
http://manchestermonarchs.com/audio/index.php
Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Eastern time.
Well, I hope that Trent could stick with the Kings on a permanent basis this season. I’ve been his fan since he was an Islander and felt that Murray scratched him for no reason recently despite his latest 2 game stint where he had an assist.
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bmova Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
@Steve C, TM tends to leave all of us scratching our heads with his decision-making.
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The way I see it, we should really be playing Bernier against Vancouver. He’s not as sharp as he could be probably because of his limited game experience so far this season, although I don’t pretend he’s shown stellar netminding so far. 3GA is nothing to cheer about but it’s better than his GAA heretofore. The coach should show his confidence in our backup by rewarding Bernier with another go, for the win and because he improved from his last start. It’s also good mojo among the team to play in front of a goalie who just helped us snap a 5-game skid. Just my two shekels.
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Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
@812, That would mean 6 days before Quick starts, and too much time to let rust creep into his game.
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812 Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
@Dominick, With regular practice, ample play so far this season, and his level of skill rust is the last thing I’d worry about with Quick. Ride the winning goalie anyway, as Murray already suggested he would do.
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Deke'r Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
@812, …..which has allready been abandoned…
Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
@812, When Bernier is at the top of the league then come talk to me. Currently Quick is, and your hot hand theory makes no sense because Quick had 3 strait shut outs when Murray sat him. Bernier hasn’t even had a game where he’s let in less than 3 goals in yet.
Pleeeeeeaaaase! Your theory makes no sense.
812 Reply:
November 10th, 2011 at 7:03 am
@Dominick, Good grief, you take things way too personally. I gave an OPINION, not a theory. Take a pill and maybe it’ll help you with your melodrama problem. This is not a knock on Quick – re-read my post and perhaps you’ll get that.
The fact is Bernier won and he’s showing improvement. Quick is professional enough to handle missing a game because the other goaltender helped us pull out of a major slump. If Murray suggested he’s going to play with the winning goaltender, and I think that’s a good idea. And, the team would benefit from playing in front of him for a while. It’s a far better idea – IN MY OPINION – than relying on some forlorn ideological attachment to a given goaltender being #1.
danny Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
@Dominick, so when bernier plays and he looks a little rusty for not playing for 2 weeks its a crime but if quick doesnt play for 6 days he will get to rusty?
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GoKingsGo818 Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@danny, Took the words right out of my mouth! Makes no sense at all
812 Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
@Deke’r, The idea is just as easily un-abandoned.
JD Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
@danny, exactly, best post I’ve read all day
Ashykon Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
@812, I have a feeling quick is gonna have one of his crazy games, he’s good at doing that when vernier plays good the game
Before
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Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
@812,
Don’t get me wrong! I love Bernier, but if I’ve learned anything after 30 years of watching subpar Los Angeles Kings goaltending, that is,
When you get a franchise goalie, hold on to him, because one doesn’t come around very often. And we have 2.
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too many guys just sitting around, cut the team down to one utility guy and run the lines unless an injury….
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AZ King Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
@Harty,
It’s called depth, why would you want to trade it away?. Having guys like Hunter, Fraser, and Moraeu sitting doesn’t hurt anyone.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
@AZ King,
Something this team has never had and people/fans just don’t know what to do with it! And you are completely correct, it is a good thing to have, and we’ll find out when/if injuries begin to happen, hopefully not tho!
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In a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing, check out the roster link on the top right of this page:
‘LA KINGS VS. VANCOUVER CANUCKS: THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2011″
1 – Scott Parse is listed on Injured Reserve.
2 – Colin Fraiser is not listed.
3 – Slava Voynov is listed.
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Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@Zeley, Who ever posted it made a mistake.Not payin attention, or just wishful thinkin.
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Gagne-Kopi-Williams
Penner-Richards-Brown
Hunter-Stoll-Richardson
Clifford-Fraser-Lewis
Lets give Moreau a seat for taking too many damn penalties.
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outsider Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@Nick, I think the lines will be like this:
Gagne – Kopi – Williams
Penner – Richards – Brown
Moreau – Stoll – Hunter
Clifford – Fraser – Richardson
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Jack Aubrey Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
@Nick, I agree that EM has taken some pointless penalties. BUT, he’s a big guy and one of the few Kings playing with a mean, nasty edge. I think we need that, and since he seems to be one of the only guys bringing it, I don’t want him to sit. He definitely needs to tune up his taking of stupid penalties, though…
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Im guessing Penner Fraser and Kopi have goals tomorrow….
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This is not the same Vancouver team as last year. Luongo looks horrible and the Kesler line is struggling. They no longer have Torres on their third line. In short their not as deep as before. Our first line has improved a lot, we got last change. I like our chances.
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ziggy Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@KC23, agreed. I saw them last week when I was up in Minneapolis, and they were outplayed in all facets of the game by the Wild. The lackluster defense allowed multiple odd-man rushes, and 2 or 3 breakaways, plus outshot something like 45-25. They lost 5-1, and none of the five goals were really Schneider’s fault.
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Dominick Reply:
November 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
@KC23, Agree on all points. I will go you one further and say that things have been going so wrong that they’ve already fired an assistant coaxh for it. lol
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