A couple days ago, the Kings’ standing, in terms of some of the major statistical categories, was examined here. One area that’s not specifically broken down by the league is 5-on-5 goals per game, an area in which the Kings have been seeking improvement. So far, in terms of overall 5-on-5 goals, they’re tied for 21st, with 16 goals in 11 games. Philadelphia leads, with 27 in 11 games, while the New York Islanders are last with 10 in nine games. For the Kings, that’s average of 1.45 goals in 5-on-5 situations, compared to last season’s total, which was an average of 1.80. So that’s actually a small backward step, so far, although the pain has been dulled by the improved power-play numbers. Still, Terry Murray wants improvement.
MURRAY: “We need that 5-on-5 scoring. We’ve talked about that over the past three years, that it has to be significantly better. That’s the same position that we’re in today. It has to be significantly better. I think it starts with our shot attitude, mentality. We’re 27th in the league today. Pucks to the net, I think we’re averaging just a touch above 27 per game, and that has to be the start of it. Get more pucks to the net and better traffic. We need more around the net. I thought, the one thing out of the three games we just played, is that we probably let the goalie see too many pucks that were coming toward him, and making it look a little too easy for him. So, net traffic. The other part of it, if you go back to the end of last season, and the offseason, we talked about the power play, and what it is that we wanted to see. My comment, at that time, was to get some movement going. It’s no different now, 5-on-5.
“I think we’re a little stagnant at times. We’re looking to pass the puck into the net from stationary situations, and that’s a really hard thing to do in today’s game. You have to break teams down, their structure on the defensive part of the game. That comes from movement with the forwards. It means more involvement from our defensemen. Doughty, Jack and Martinez are three guys, in particular, who are comfortable to get involved in the offensive part of it. And I don’t mean joining the attack or the rush, the initial rush. I’m talking about plays in the offensive zone. There’s a cycle, and jumping through, getting to the net. Just becoming a decoy sometimes, to be a distraction for the defensive team, is a good thing. We show it at times, but it needs to be on a consistent basis so that there’s more instinctive offensive-zone play.’’
Penalties prevent 5 on5 play. Kings use skill players on specialty teams. Kings use grinders during 5 on 5 play, while tired skill players rest. Kings struggle to score 5 on 5!
[Reply]
Crown Royal Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
@Belexes,
Don’t really understand your point. How many minutes per game are the Kings really short-handed on average?
Lewis and Stoll spend a lot of time on the Penatly Kill as does Richardson. Moreau has also killed penalites.
[Reply]
Helvetica Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@Belexes, So far the Kings haven’t taken THAT many penalties. Not to mention, every team plays pretty much the same way. Their best guys play on special teams, and you don’t see it hindering their even strength scoring.
[Reply]
I just saw the title for this article and laughed, I was like “WE KNOW!”
[Reply]
KingsFanFTW Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@TheAcaciaStrain, lol i guess u know what TM was going to say to huh?
[Reply]
I like Murray. I think he’s a great coach and I think he should be coach now. But you can’t keep delivering the same message and expect different results. You can’t keep yelling at the same guys to shoot for 3 years and expect, suddenly, they’re listen now. TM needs to realize he needs to figure out something besides “we need to shoot more”. While that might be true its figuring out how to shoot more. And that is something TM needs to figure out, that’s his job.
[Reply]
fsd1 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
@Sam, As i’ve said many times, TM doesn’t lace them up during the games so he has to have players execute his instructions. What other things can he do as the coach to get the players to perform?
[Reply]
KingsFanFTW Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@fsd1, by giving them a cookie to perform good
[Reply]
Ben Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
@fsd1, Be a better coach.
[Reply]
pnm Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
@fsd1, Be willing to change the system
[Reply]
Duckbasher Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
@pnm, Amen. I feel sorry for guys like Penner who came to this team hoping to contribute by bringing “his” game here. But nope… it’s Murray’s game or no game. I wonder how long it will be until Gagne is in the doghouse for showing his 40+ goals per season skills and not dumping and cycling like the coach wants? TM needs to be a defensive coach. End of story.
This is a recording: for better shot mentality press 1; for more net traffic press 2; for more movement on the power play press 3, for how to accomplish any or these please hang up and call 411.
[Reply]
jess Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
@JackKent Cooke,
I pressed ‘O’ -and was outsourced to some dude from India who gave me advice on cricket and then proceeded to tell me about hit entry into the guiness book of world records for balancing on one foot!
[Reply]
DesertKing Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
@JackKent Cooke,
Dude, I accidentally pressed 9-1-1 and you won’t believe what happened!!! Wow, you guessed it right!! DL answered the phone and asked me what my “Kings emergency” was. I told him I didn’t have one, but since we were there, we needed to score more goals. He told me “Stay on the line,I will connect you.” The next person who answered the phone was JK. He answered “Kings goal scoring, what is your emergency.” I told him we needed more goals, stat (I remembered that word from that show “Emergency” and they were always saying “stat” so I fgiured it must be important!). JK relpied “What does a goal look like?” It was then that the red emergency light in my brain went off and I knew what the true emergency was and started to dial all over again…
[Reply]
Kaiser Soze Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:36 pm
@DesertKing, Classic! Love the post!
[Reply]
If the team needs more five on five scoring and TM has been talking about it in his own words “over the last three years” then why is it still an issue? Shouldn’ that have improved instead of backwards lately? Several players like Kopi,and Brown have matured and there’s more firepower in the lineup.
TM has been saying the same thing forever. He wants more traffic in front. If he’s the coach, why three years later hasn’t that already happened?
[Reply]
fsd1 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
@Crown Royal, tell us please…..
[Reply]
Crown Royal Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
@fsd1,
I don’t know. There are fourteen forwards on the team. If TM had no other way of communicating this concept to them he could, I suppose, sit each one down for ten minutes individually and explain it to them, telling them what to do exactly. If he did that it would take him exactly two and one third hours not counting coffee and bathroom breaks.
If it so important that he’s been “talking about it for three years” I can only assume it would be worth three or less hours of his time to do just that. Don’t you think?
[Reply]
KingsFanFTW Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
@Crown Royal, because something dont change really fast.
But the Kings do get in front of the goalie view but the problem is Doughty and Jack Johnson dont know how to hit the net always shooting wide
and both of them take forever to shot the puck mostly Doughty.
[Reply]
Crown Royal Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
@KingsFanFTW,
TM also said, “we’re in the same postiion as before” making reference to this problem he’s been talking about for three years. Things may not change that fast but THREE YEARS should be ample time for a good coach to make those changes. Oh, that’s right. I did say good coach. If the Kings are in “the same position” about this as they were three years ago what does that say about his coaching?
[Reply]
Deke'r Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:09 pm
@Crown Royal, That you can’t execute your insructions….the players must do that….right?
KingsFanFTW Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
@Crown Royal, yea i see ur point through…..Just saying my point of view…
If the team knows how to hit the net i still believe we still be struggling on scoring
Deke'r Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:08 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Bingo…..hitting the net does seem to be key…
[Reply]
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
@Crown Royal,
He can’t move Penner’s feet for him…
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, You can’t blame everyones scoring problem on Penner. Yes he is apart of the problem just isn’t the whole problem.
[Reply]
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
@Andrew: the second coming,
Agree about the whole problem.
Kings are in transition, from being a cycle/grind you down/large bodied team, to being a skillful/smaller but quicker/great passing team.
See you in the playoffs!
I still want my jersey…
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
@Andrew: the second coming, I am confused I owe you a jersey? lol Yes they are a skill team with a cycle system.. Which isn’t really going to work all that well.
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
@Andrew: the second coming,
If you were the first, you would know…
No offense/no problema…
Scot Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
@Crown Royal,
Because he has too big of a F______ ego to admit that HE is the one who needs to change!
[Reply]
Duckbasher Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
@Crown Royal, funny how the stats show we win more when we are outshot by the opponent. Maybe we need to tell everyone DON’T SHOOT?
[Reply]
KingsFanFTW Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:07 pm
@Duckbasher, LOL never thought about that
[Reply]
The boys are hearing the message loud and clear, they shoot first and THEN they go for net traffic. Maybe Terryble needs to switch it around and ask for net traffic and then the shots to come?
But at least he’s expecting his Dmen to jump in and look for their O-chances.
[Reply]
FdoFmFull Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
@Stuart, It’s been said before, but the big issue is that the default position to shoot from in TM’s system is the point. Statistically, you’re not going to score very often in this NHL from the point, even when the stars align (traffic, shot on-frame, no block).
The fundamental problem is that there’s so little variety positionaly to their offensive zone system. The same idea that they’re trying to implement in the PP where players are changing positions and moving with or without the puck, which opens up lanes and allows for shots from many locations/ angles, needs to be applied to 5 vs. 5.
Unfortunately, TM’s 5 vs 65 system is ultra-conservative and hardly ever allows the 5 skaters to move “as a unit” all over the ice. This idea of his of having the odd dman make runs deep into the o-zone is one aspect of playing a dynamic, aggresive, modern game. However, it needs to be taught in the context of a whole “philosophy” that allows for fluid, coordinated movement by all 5 players.
Awww, crap, just watch the Blackhawks!
gKg!!!
[Reply]
It makes me so mad, that he knows it sucks and yet he won’t change the system. It isn’t like we have bad players… stop trying to make players fit your system and let your system fit your players. Sigh.
[Reply]
Scot Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
@Andrew: the second coming,
Why is it that fan bloggers understand this concept more than an NHL coach?
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
@Scot, Idk, I play alot of video games and understand the balance of line chem
. Haha I have no clue in all seriousness it seems like he would figure out that in any other system we could be putting the bisket in the net at a higher clip. Even if it was just a bit more hitting the blue line with speed and not dumping it off. For example Brown power moves and gets a shot off.. Many people don’t like it but its the only time our team hits the line with speed.
[Reply]
pnm Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:43 pm
@Andrew: the second coming, Bingo!
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
@pnm, I still needed net presence in TM bingo.
[Reply]
Deke'r Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
@Andrew: the second coming, ….so you would have 23 systems??
[Reply]
Duckbasher Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
@Andrew: the second coming, You should be the coach Andrew. Seriously, with the kind of talent we have, we need a coach that just helps manage the line-up and the line changes. “Just do it” is all they really need to hear. These guys are professionals who’ve played hockey their entire lives. They didn’t get to the NHL because of systems. They got here because they are TALENTED SMART HOCKEY PLAYERS who are winners. Let them play their game and and let quick and Bernier play theirs and I bet we win. GO KINGS!
[Reply]
Shot mentality.. *record skips*… Shot mentality.. *record skips*… Shot mentality.. *record skips*…
I think we’ve heard this before…
[Reply]
Stuart Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
@kingsxstevenxkings, was that a .45?
[Reply]
DesertKing Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
@Stuart,
Normally it is on 33, but when it isn’t taking effect, speed it up to 78 so it repeats more times at a faster pace. Of course, when you spin it backwards, it says “My mentality is shot, my mentality is shot”
[Reply]
kingsxstevenxkings Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@DesertKing,
haha perfect
PP Anybody? Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@kingsxstevenxkings, Actually, he said something completely different this time. It was shot ATTITUDE, mentality. Totally different strategy this time.
[Reply]
kingsxstevenxkings Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@PP Anybody?,
Ah I see.. How could I not see the difference!
[Reply]
“We need that 5-on-5 scoring. We’ve talked about that over the past three years, that it has to be significantly better…”
Yes, TM, we have been listening to this recording of yours for the past three years. Guess what? It hasn’t changed. You’ve had different players over the course of those years.. Do you think maybe there’s a common denominator? It’s YOU. Swallow your ego, & tweak your system! It is effective, but it does not promote 5-on-5 scoring! Rather than just continually saying it, “We have to be better, we need to just get better, we have to execute better,” do something about it! Do you know how tedious, redundant, & annoying that saying is?
It’s like on the Dan Patrick Show, when they play, “Was this soundbyte of Tony Romo this year, or in the past?” Romo says the same thing after every loss, “we need to be better, I have to be better.”
I guess it makes Rich’s job a lot easier, all he has to do is copy & paste old TM quotes into current TM quotes.
[Reply]
Even though we lost the last game, I liked the looks of TM’s “new/revised” system. I thought we had a few great opportunities, we just couldn’t capitalize. Hope we can continue to build on it!
GKG
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
@KingsGuy, That just because we played a team that was open and liked to play the rush game.. We played thier game.. Not ours.
[Reply]
KingsGuy Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
@Andrew: the second coming, Yea, but it shows TM can and is willing to give another look at some different strategies… Aren’t the Oilers a “rush” team as well?
Although, I do wish we could play “our game” (as you stated)
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
@KingsGuy, I think he just let the game run its course, I also agree we should play our game against the faster teams in the league. Meaning down low and bang.
I think Gagne will be the missing ingredient tomorrow night and probably should’nt play JJ and DD together at all -has been seemingly non-productive.
[Reply]
DesertKing Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
@jess,
I agree about Gagne but have no opinion reference JJ and DD since DD has really played enough games this season to give us a true read. GKG!!
[Reply]
jess Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
@DesertKing,
Thanks dez –well I’m not the first to bring this up. Another KF blogger brought this up a couple of games ago so I watched for it more closely last game and the chemistry was not there at all and one might even call it counter productive. But as you say, there are many more games to be played.
[Reply]
SLG1013 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
@jess, Agree with this. Seems JJ defers more to DD on the ice instead of taking the initiative to make a play like he does when paired with Scuderi (or whomever else on the point during the power play)…
[Reply]
jess Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
@SLG1013,
Yeah IMHO they are naturally competive with one another and this can be a healthy thing and very useful for a coach, but when paired up together the tension seems like it works in reverse.
[Reply]
This guy’s talk about getting shots on net is getting on my nerves. Most of the games they outshoot their opponents they lose. I think it’s less about taking shots and more about generating quality chances, and I think his “shot mentality” just might be getting in the way of some real productive offense.
[Reply]
Scot Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Quality over quantity maybe?
[Reply]
Duckbasher Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
@Scot, Agree. Kind of like the young bull versus old bull joke? Patience is very underrated. And usually produces superior results.
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, I believe its not how many shots.. but where the shots come from.. we need to get to the middle of the ice. Because that is where we are the strongest.
[Reply]
pnm Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, You nailed it. Again… the system is (IMHO) the issue. We are loaded with unbelievable talent now. Does TM seriously believe that Richards, Gagne, Moreau, et al don’t know what they’re doing out there? Perhaps he should watch game tape of their former teams to see how they played. These guys KNOW how to put the puck in the net, but suffer from a system that is not allowing them to be successful, plain and simple.
[Reply]
No more shots please. We allways win the games when we are outshot
[Reply]
I have a brilliant idea….. have TM sit down and read all of our (fan) comments on this site. Because all of us whining and griping isn’t going to do a bit of good unless someone listens. Rich, maybe TM can address why he does the things he does so that all of us can understand where he’s coming from (regardless of whether or not we agree with him..) ??? I mean it might just open the man’s eyes to other possibilities!
[Reply]
Duckbasher Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
@John, or open our eyes to what dummys we are?
[Reply]
Off this subject: Was listening to the quacks game last night, how can anyone listen to the quacks announcers. They are so bad. I had to turn off the sound. Thank you Miller and Fox, we are so blessed to have them on TV.
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@gene, Hayward is such a homer it is insane.. Also I saw them blow that game it was so funny.
[Reply]
jess Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
@Andrew: the second coming,
Hey Hayward just hasn’t found his calling yet, and it starts with a roll of duct tape.
[Reply]
Matty Sewardchuk Reply:
November 3rd, 2011 at 2:43 am
@jess, Duck tape…
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
@gene, If I had some strange desire to become a Ducks fan, Brian Hayward would cure me of it.
PS: Just for grins, type Brian Hayward Ducks into google with the live suggestions on…which I did to confirm the spelling of his name…you’ll find it suggests “Brian Hayward Ducks Homer.”
[Reply]
saw the end of practice today…….Shooters practicing thier shots from the blue line with no one in front…still a lot of shots going wide…anyone at practice today???
[Reply]
jess Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@neil, nooooooooooooo!
[Reply]
KingsGuy Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
@jess, Of course, didn’t you hear, they are practicing the new “wide shot mentality”. HA HA.
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
@KingsGuy, not really the newest thing in our offensive book
Matty Sewardchuk Reply:
November 3rd, 2011 at 2:46 am
@neil, It’s a new strategy to get the opposing goalie out of position.
[Reply]
Ok, just to let everyone know, I’m done defending TM. Y’all know how I feel, if we make it past the first round everyone will have to put up with it for another year. I like his system, like his style and think it is going to work. I’m out…….
[Reply]
jess Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
@fsd1, @HockeyNerd is that you??
[Reply]
fsd1 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
@jess, nope
[Reply]
PP Anybody? Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
@fsd1, I should probably join you, except from the opposite perspective.
[Reply]
Osaka Reply:
November 3rd, 2011 at 3:26 am
@fsd1, I’ll pick up the slack for you.
[Reply]
how about”extra pass mentality” and then shoot………
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
@neil, Then we will have to wait three more years!
[Reply]
Terry Murray demanding for 5-5 goals is similar to a dictator demanding democracy….
It’s irony and nothing will improve until he is gone…
2 more years on his contract but he can be dismissed earlier
[Reply]
Slightly off topic, but has anyone seen that Emerson Etem is really on a tear in the WHL this year? Kid has 22 goals and 36 points in 16 games. I bet the Ducks are bummed they sent him back to junior. Only reason I mentioned this, is because he is a local kid who grew up in Long Beach as a Kings fan. I was hoping in that draft that DL would’ve taken him. Kinda sucks to think of a local boy turning into a high scoring winger for the Ducks.
[Reply]
More on topic, Murray says “It means more involvement from our defensemen. Doughty, Jack and Martinez are three guys, in particular, who are comfortable to get involved in the offensive part of it. And I don’t mean joining the attack or the rush, the initial rush. I’m talking about plays in the offensive zone. There’s a cycle, and jumping through, getting to the net. Just becoming a decoy sometimes, to be a distraction for the defensive team, is a good thing.” So, essentially he wants more scoring, and he wants the D to help, but he doesn’t mean really help out with the offense, just pretend to and be a decoy. I wonder why scoring is still an issue?
[Reply]
The same as it ever was. I’m so fed up with hearing him say the same thing over and over again. I’m not gonna say what I’ve been saying for the past year, I’ve done enough of it. I’m done complaining about this guy. He’s not worth my time.
[Reply]
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@CB14, I understand man.. I understand.
[Reply]
number 6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
@CB14,
Hi CB!! You know what? I’m frustrated with it too. I mean, it’s bad enough watching most games hoping they’ll find a way to eek out two goals or three if they are ‘on’. Of course they got five vs. St. L and I read the St. L quotes and to a man they said they (the Blues) played poorly.
But it does get just a wee bit old hearing the same thing over and over and over. This team has problems scoring 5-on-5. Living back east I get to see a lot of other teams on tele, and some of them (not all clearly) you can see moving around in the o zone, passing, moving to the high percentage areas. I personally don’t see the Kings do that a lot (not that I see lots of the games…. but a few …. particularly the two vs. NJ). And I ask myself…. how exactly is it that they expect to score from there?
So Yes, it is getting sort of ….. old reading these comments again and again.
[Reply]
CB14 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@number 6, Hey number 6. The thing that really helped it dawn on me that I should just give up the argument, was 2 days ago I posted the Goals Per game of the last 6 Stanley Cup champs, all were in the top 10 in the league, and I remembered at that point that I had posted the same exact thing earlier in the summer. And I still got the old “defense wins championships” defense of TM’s system. After seeing that response, I realized that I shouldn’t be wasting my time arguing with people about anything related to TM and his system. It’s just not worth it. If they want to believe that a team ranked 21st in goals per game can win the cup, I’m gonna let them. If they believe that Terry Murray can improve the 5 on 5 scoring after trying for the past 3 years to do so, I’m gonna let them. If they believe that a “shot mentality” helps the Kings win games, I’m gonna let them. Regardless of the fact that the Kings have a much better record over the past 2+ years when getting outshot, as opposed to outshooting the opposition. If they believe TM will lead this team to the Stanley Cup, more power to them. I’ll just sit back, enjoy reading the comments and arguments, and wait til Murray’s time is done. Then I’ll smile.
Knowing the Kings chances of winning the cup just got better.
[Reply]
number 6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
@CB14,
Guess what. Guess what. I actually copied and pasted your comments that you refer to onto another blog! That I assure you is the only time I’ve ever done anything like that. And …. I didn’t even realize it was you. I just thought…. bloomin heck (to keep pc here), he has a point. I mean had a team that was like 12th in scoring won the cup it would be a different issue. But I remember very well if not mistaken amongst them were No;s 1, 2 and 4. Can’t remember the others. I guess Boston might have been the exception.
Don’t know if anyone out there is watching the Versus game tonight. I just walked into my apartment and in the first minute and a half or two it was 2-0 Philly on sniping perfect blasts an inch or two inside the post. Then there was another four mins later!! Three in a game. But it’s hard to score like that if you’re in a defensive mentality all the time.
CB14 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
@number 6,
That’s funny. Didn’t catch the game on versus but sounds exciting. Wish I could say the same when watching the Kings.
number 6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:17 pm
@CB14,
Si amigo. I wish I could say the same thing to when watching the Kings. What’s disappointing to me, is that I almost never see them score those sorts of goals. I mean, it doesn’t need to rip the back of the net out, but, you know, those sorts of ‘goal scorers goals’.
Do yourself a favor (or not) and watch on nhl.com the highlights of Philly Buffalo and you’ll see the goals I was telling you about. When you’re done with that, watch the Leafs NJ highlights to see Jeoffrey Lupul’s hat-trick all coming in one period. Am I depressing you yet? Watch the highlights anyway.
Bye for now CB.
[Reply]
CB14 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 pm
@number 6, Man those Flyers were firing bullets into the corners of the net. Wish our guys could do that. They’re too busy shooting it into the goalies chest in hopes of a rebound.
[Reply]
number 6 Reply:
November 3rd, 2011 at 5:37 am
@CB14,
Yeah, so the question remains….. are they firing into the goalie because the system keeps them always (or at least often) to the perimeter? Or do we not have sniper type players. Well I suppose it gets back to this earlier thing of why Purcell, Boyle, Moulson and now Penner (oh I forgot Poni) couldn’t seem to score here. I don’t like that sample size much…. it’s getting far too big at this point.
[Reply]
number 6 Reply:
November 3rd, 2011 at 5:42 am
@number 6,
Just saw that Poni on pace to break his goal scoring record from last year a third of the way into the season. He’s already almost half way to his Kings total after 12 gms.
[Reply]
Does TM think that we have no idea that the five on five scoring is not there?
Like last season. lol
Give your O-fence the green light to attack and crash already.
[Reply]
If I had a buck for every time TM said “shot mentality” I could buy the Kings and fire him.
[Reply]
number 6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
@zulov,
Thats a good one. I don’t wish anyone getting fired…. but that was funny.
[Reply]
Wow…. what a thread! fsd1 and CB14 both threw in the towel and waived the white flag and for totally opposite reasons. very interesting!
[Reply]
CB14 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, Haha, just noticed that. I didn’t even notice that before posting my surrender. After the fact it’s kind of fitting that a TM supporter and a TM detractor both surrendered on the same day. Keeps things even.
[Reply]
number 6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
@CB14,
That’s funny. Make sure you get my last post that I just left for you. Well, time for me to start thinkin about sleep bein three hrs ahead of you lot, and stop thinking about a dearth of 5-on-5 scoring. Till tomorrow night I guess.
[Reply]
Osaka Reply:
November 3rd, 2011 at 3:31 am
@BrokeKingsFan, I was out all day so I feel bad I left fsd1 out high and dry, too many crazy fans to “try”to reason with. Actually I have kind of given up myself but I am sure that mood will pass soon. I’ll be fighting the good fight.
[Reply]
Kings enter the zone wide continue play wide, not looking for the trailer or the point while getting to he front of he net. This usually takes them into a cycle trailing in giving up the puck.
[Reply]
Here is something that goes against what I think most of you to believe. One problem I do see is when we take shots from the point too many times the shooter is trying to score. Can you believe I said that? A shot from the point should only be concerned with getting a shot off quickly, thru, and on net. Period. I see too many blast that go wide and that kills any offense there as the puck goes around the boards and out. Just as in baseball you don’t ground out with a guy on third, or you hit the ball behind the baserunner on second, in hockey shots from the point MUST be on net and get through. On another thread someone was talking about Ray Bourque, he was a master of floating wrist shots on net and having tips, deflections, or rebounds put in. Murray is right, traffic in front of the net and shots ON NET is how goals are scored.
[Reply]