Terry Murray’s postgame thoughts…
(on again scoring only two regulation goals…)
MURRAY: “Well, I don’t think that was it tonight. The goals they got, they got a shorthanded goal. They got a real lucky bounce off the end boards. It’s hard to believe that the boards in the NHL would not be installed properly, in this day and age. It’s incredible. I mean, they’re not in and out. There’s no NBA. But you get a bad break on that one, and then I think the shot Duchene took ended up deflecting off, or hitting, Doughty, and went up into the top corner. I don’t think Quicker saw it at all. So, they got a couple breaks. We played really good. We played very well here, with three games in four nights. To come in and play, and almost double up the shots, and the offensive-zone time, I was really proud of the way we played here today.’’
(on getting only four goals in the last two games, despite 30-plus shots in each…)
MURRAY: “You’ve got to keep shooting. You’ve got to keep playing pucks off the net. If you go back through the video, which I will on the flight back home, I’ll probably see 10 to 12 shots that were great shooting places and opportunities, and we missed the net. That’s where, in my mind, you need to take better advantage of playing pucks on the goaltender and looking for the second opportunities. We need to refocus on that part of it.’’
(on not taking advantage of Varlamov’s rebounds…)
MURRAY: “Almost every time the puck came to the net, there was something there. Late in the third period, I just wish we would have kept doing that. Hit the goalie. Instead, we’re trying to score from the blue line or from the tops of the circles. It’s a hard thing to do, because if you don’t, it is what it is. You miss the net and now you probably go back and break out again.’’
(on whether Quick made the correct read on the wraparound goal…)
MURRAY: “It’s a very quick play, that one. I don’t think it should have got to that point, on the wraparound. You’ve got to get there. You’ve got to get to the post and give yourself a chance, and he did that.’’
(on whether he noticed bad-bounce boards in Colorado before…)
MURRAY: “No, I haven’t noticed it here before. But it should never happen. To me, it should never happen. If it comes off the glass, that’s one thing, or the separator there on the glass. But to come off the boards, I just don’t see that. That should never happen.’’
Quick let me be first Fire Him…..LOL
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
@Lvhatrick, Darn, you beat me too it.
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neil Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
@Lvhatrick, get in line…..
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jet Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
@neil, Geez, you guys are a firing squad
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Forum67 Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 6:11 am
@Lvhatrick,
I have watched people take shots at TM for more than a season and a half and just shook my head and continued to support him. I did so mainly because when TM arrived the Kings had been lost in the non-playoff wilderness for years and he led us back to the playoffs. I even backed him after two seasons in a row of first round playoff exits. I did so because I felt he was doing the best with what he had to work with, especially after Kopi’s late in the season injury kept him out of the playoffs. But now that Lombardi finally has the right pieces in place (with the possible exception of Penner) and we are still having great difficulty scoring, I have to look to the coaching. And when I do so I am forced to conclude that TM has taken the Kings as far as he can take them and we need to get a new coach to finally take us to The Cup. Now is the time to say thank you to TM for what he has accomplished and bid him adieu.
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RobSD Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 9:10 am
@Forum67,
+1
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pnm Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 12:28 pm
@Forum67, I couldn’t agree with you more. TM has done a great job years 1 thru 3. Unfortunately we need a coach(s) that can kick this team into a higher gear. Talent is no longer the issue.
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Sean Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
@Forum67,
Now that he has the pieces in place why give TM his well earned chance to take them to the cup. He hasn’t had this line-up going into the playoffs, it’s EARLY in the season, so ease up on the get rid of TM – Forum. Let us see what he can do in the playoffs with this line up.
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Jim Martin Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 8:08 pm
@Lvhatrick, Playing good and not winning Mr Murray don’t cut it. I rather seen them play bad and win the game. I am tired of you blowing smoke up our butts. Get a new coaching staff. Sidney Crosby made the statement today that he wouldn’t play in LA. Lombardi better start making some moves while it is still early in the season. Its time to bring up some players from the AHL, some guys that can skate and know what to do with the puck. The LA Kings are the laughing stock of the NHL for giving Drew Doughty that large contract. Most organizations would have told him to take a hike and try to get something for him.
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Kingsation8 Reply:
November 1st, 2011 at 8:07 am
@Jim Martin, laughing stock? Really? There are plenty other teams who look much worse. Doughty will/should soon show you why he is getting paid what he is getting paid.
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I’m handing in my TM appologist card. I’m done.
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
@KC23, Accepted.
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Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
@CB14, +1
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TYLER Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
@KC23, +2
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
@KC23, Only Dallas and Edmonton have more points in the West and Pittsburgh and Toronto have more points in the East yet Murray is a bad coach? Keep sucking TM, this system doesn’t work.
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Pesus Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
@Osaka,
If it wasnt for Quick’s 3 shutouts we could be 3-8. Barely above .500 is not gonna cut it with this much talent. Rich pointed out 9 games out of 11 we failed to score 3 goals. You werent trying to be, be your are right its not working.
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Sebastian Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 7:51 am
@Pesus, of course its working, if you score more goals than you allow, everything is fine because you win the game. ill take 1-0 wins every freakin night…all that matters is 2 points!
Does anyone remember when McSorley’s stick (I think it was him) got stuck in a gap in the boards?
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mikey Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
@DesertKing, if memory serves me correctly, it was Tomas Sandstrom’s stick that got stuck in the boards at the forum. The funny thing is, they ended up having to break the stick to get it out and my nephew ended up with the stick. He had that up on his wall for years. Don’t know what ever happened to it, it’s gone now – that much I do know.
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DesertKing Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 7:20 am
@mikey,
Very cool.
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Mark Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
@DesertKing, I remember that. He was behind the goal line and the blade went right in the wall.
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Kenny44 Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 1:57 pm
@DesertKing, That happened to me once and I nearly impaled myself on my own stick. That would’ve been a hell of a way to go!
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Step it up! Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
@Kenny44, My friend had this happen on a roller rink. Had the stick out kind of low and his momentum lifted him off the ground to the floor. Stuck him below the belt! Hilarious!!
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Hands over my ears…Cant Hear you…Cant hear you !!!!!
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
@neil, LMAO
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TYLER Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
@neil, same here!!!
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TM with all do respect, -you just can’t mix meds with multiple boxes of wine each night darn it!
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 8:29 am
@jess, Lmao
that why the lines are constantly changing
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Another game where we out shot our opponent, another game where we lost. I thought Murray had been onto something before, but this season is not proving that. It’s quality chances, which may, or may not come off bad bounces, that truly matters. Do they still keep track of quality chances? I remember WAAAAAAY back in the day on the telecast they would show the shots and quality scoring chances.
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kingsxstevenxkings Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
@DFW King,
I looked after the game for the “Scoring Chances” stat. Couldn’t find it anywhere on NHL.com.. probably gone forever
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brianguy Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
@DFW King,
scoring chances is not an official stat (and can be pretty subjective at that). the broadcasters or their stat keepers often keep track of it, so they’ll have some idea of what’s been happening.
yeah, FSN usually shows it on telecasts between periods. unless they changed it this season?
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next game excuse when the Kings lose at home…” I cant believe the ice can be that bad at a professional arena…with no NBA…….
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chip Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
@neil, It wasn’t the boards. Richards dropped his mouthpiece in the corner, and the puck went off that.
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Sebastian Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 7:52 am
@chip, hahahah good one man!
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Let me see here – some of us have been saying we need to crash the nets more – TM admits that taking shots from the blue line and top of the circles is not good – yet we keep doing it. Now I am beginning to wonder.
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Kenny44 Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 2:03 pm
@DesertKing, He doesn’t mind taking those shots – he objects to trying to score from those positions (which leads to shooting wide, etc.). TM wants this: Get puck on net, play heavy with good net presence and get lucky bounce for goal.
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Excuse for tonights game, the boards. Yeah, to be expected.
Nevermind the team did as you wanted them to do by having 32 shots, or the fact that we failed to score 5 on 5 using your offensive system. Once again, the Kings lost the game while outshooting the other team. I’m reminded of a song lyric, “Same as it ever was.”
The Kings have 3 days off before Thursday’s game, perfect time for a coaching change. Hey, a guy can dream right?
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Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
@CB14, No. You can’t this is the Murray zone. No dreams allowed only shots going high and wide!
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brianguy Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
@CB14,
let’s recap:
Quick has an insanely good 3+ games… 3 shutouts. 1.000 SV%. Kings play pretty decent. Quick season GAA around 1.
Bernier gives up 3 goals in a L to New Jersey (17 saves) .850…Kings clearly outplayed.
Quick gives up 3 goals in a W @ Dallas (30 saves) .909…Kings score a rare 5 goals.
Quick gives up 3 goals in an OTL @ Phx (30 saves) .909…Kings slightly outplayed.
Quick gives up 3 goals on a BACK to BACK night in Denver (13 saves) .813…Kings play decent.
make sense to anyone yet?? does this now mean Bernier plays the next 3 games unless he has under a .900 sv %? good, wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy.
someone tell him we have 2 *NHL* goaltenders! or maybe when Quick pops a groin in December and goes in a funk in March he’ll figure that out the hard way.
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
@brianguy, I hear ya man. The thing that irks me is that Quick had allowed 5 goals in 6 games prior to “the Decision”, since then he’s allowed 9 goals in 3 games. If that doesn’t answer the question as to whether it was the right decision or not, I don’t know what will.
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Forum67 Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 6:24 am
@CB14,
I didn’t agree with the decision to sit out an ultra hot goalie and if I had been coach I wouldn’t have done it. But at the end of the day it’s pure speculation as to what would have happened if that decision hadn’t been made. On the other hand, although I agreed with the decision to send Voynov back down when DD returned to the lineup, I find, based on the way DD has played since he returned, myself speculating that we would have been better off with Voynov in the lineup than DD. Who knows?
three years and it’s every excuse for lack of scoring….missed opps….bad bounces….wide shots…goalie standing on his head….every excuse but one…MY SYSTEM AND OFFENSIVE COACHING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
@neil, Huh?
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
@neil, Look at the standings bud, not many teams better.
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
@Osaka, That’s only because Quick played his butt off his first 6 games. As I said last week, wait until Quick comes back to Earth. Now that he has, the Kings aren’t doing to well. When factoring in the 2 games Quick didn’t play, and the 3 games since Quick was cooled off by TM, the Kings record is 1-3-1. Not exactly a good sign.
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
@CB14, Every team goes through streaks of winning and losing. Your not even being rational now. The fact of the matter is the Kings are in the league elite. If you want to say they are not and everything will fall apart then wait til it happens. You can’t say that Murray’s team isn’t as good as their record.
Paul G Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 9:18 am
@Osaka, but TM doesn’t get the best out of his players like Barry Trotz or Mike Babcock
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Yawn.. zzzzzzzz…. How about you change your “SYSTEM”…. Enough with the shot mentality. Sound like a broken record….
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jess Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
@tacomakingsfan,
losing makes me hungry and tired. I’ll have two chicken tacos and two pork tacos with everything to go. Thanks homey:)
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Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
@jess, see everyone thinks your name is taco haha.
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tacomakingsfan Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
@Andrew: the second coming,
Yeah I guess soo.. lol I’m a taco making fool from tacoma!
tacomakingsfan Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
@jess,
Order for two chicken tacos and two pork tacos with everything to go coming right up!!! Will that be cash, charge or paypal?
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jess Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
@tacomakingsfan, It’s on TM’s plastic for all Insider fans and don’t be afraid to mark it up already know what I’m sayin
tacomakingsfan Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
@jess,
Don’t worry I have Penner’s plastic on file… He’s my best customer.. Why do you think he plays like the way he is.. I keep telling I’m only going to feed him AFTER the game not before.
Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
@tacomakingsfan,I changed your name forever
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tacomakingsfan Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
@Andrew: the second coming,
I know huh… damn you woman!
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Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
@tacomakingsfan, woman eh? Are your the one making the food. haha
Adamic39 Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 1:28 pm
@tacomakingsfan, I can’t speak for everyone, but Capital T, K & F would make it so much easier for me.
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would it be fair to say that Quick shouldve let the puck go around and let the D handle it…????
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
@neil, Just looked at the replay, I don’t think he made the wrong decision. He was going to stop the puck and set-up Scuderi for a hard slapshot around the boards and out. I think it was the right decision, just a bad break.
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DesertKing Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
@CB14,
Concur 100%
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
@neil, DD fell down.
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KC23 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
@neil, That was my take. Just a funcky bounce off the end boards. Quick would of been out of position for what was happening if he hadn’t gone to the back of the net to control the start of the clear out.
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Ian Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 9:50 am
@neil, Decisively unfair actually.
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does anyone ever listen to TM?
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neil Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 7:50 am
@KingsFanFTW, why?? what did he say?????
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 8:35 am
@neil, i have no idea i never listen to him
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well, not the B’day present I was hoping for but I have to sy the Kings played well. Bad luck last night and bad luck bounce tonight. And may I say Penner played “incrementally” better. Not exponentially but incrementally better. Heard nothing from Parse after the goal. And thank you Clifford for not dropping the gloves and getting your hurt by Obyrne. Paging Seemone Ganyeah, you’re wanted at the next drop of the puck sir.
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
@crashin’ da net, First of all, Happy Birthday! Second of all, there’s an old saying that says you make your own luck.
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King-C Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
@CB14, Exactly! Score 4 goals and bad bounces don’t matter. This team is underachieving and it’s because of lack of preparation. TM’s days are numbered if he keeps this up!
Oh by the way DD is looking silly out there. The way I see it he is stealing 86K per game. Not earning it!
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
@King-C, Underachieved? How? 4 teams in the entire league have more points.
jet Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
@crashin’ da net, did you notice Parse’s play in the third. He dove to touch the puck to maintain posession and he was the forward to tie up the stick on the 4v2 rush. Parse is playing a complete game.
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puck73 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
@jet, I wonder how many people realize how great that goal he scored tonite was? That was a goal scorers goal. Parse will do well as long as TM leaves him alone and stops putting him in a bottom 6 role. The fact is, he is exactly where he should be right now, in a top 6 role ON THE LEFT SIDE !
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Lake Forest Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
@puck73, why does Parse take such stupid penalties???fot TOI he must have most PIM ratio
Harty Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 3:50 am
@crashin’ da net, he’s been told who to go or not, its a short leash right now
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Murray sounds sorta like he’s gonna have a break-down.
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How much longer will TM be allowed to underachieve? 6-5 with this team is a joke. I cant think of a coach in the league that would be doing less with this much talent. Its a shame really because DL has done a grest job loading our roster.
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gmo Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
@Pesus,
i feel your pain
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King-C Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 7:16 am
@Pesus, Completely agree. 6-5 is underachieving. We have struggled to score in every game with the exception of the Blues game. Somethings gotta give. i would say more time together as a team would help, but I know better. Change the system!
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RobSD Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 9:25 am
@King-C,
Kings played a solid game. It definitely a couple bad plays that lead to this loss. We dominated. It happens to teams all the time. How many games to we manage to win after we have been dominated? Quite a few. Move on next game.
Just to keep with the trend though, Murray’s system doesn’t score many goals and well… Penner blows. Parse has been outstanding besides the penalties.
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@Osaka, Hey Osaka, I asked a question about a week ago but I noticed you weren’t on the site for those few days so i’ll ask again now.
During the off-season you and I had discussions about TM’s offensive system, I said it didn’t work, you said it did and I would be proved wrong now that we’ve got the talent needed to make it work. I know it’s still early, but the Kings are currently tied for 21st in Goals per game, and less than last year. If you think we need more time in order to tell if it works or not, that’s fine. I’m just wondering after what game can we discuss whether or not it’s working? Thanks.
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
@CB14, Only Dallas and Edmonton have more points in the West so I think yes, things are going good. The Kings will lose some games you know. It does happen. I could give a rats behind about 21st, 1st, 30th in scoring W/L is all that matters. The Kings are playing well. They played well today. I have 0 complaints with the team right now.
Seriously though, what do you want? You said last summer if the Kings win this year you would give Murray credit. I thought you would be praising him. They are playing some good hockey. If they don’t have the best record in the in league it is a failure? Kings have a lot on new pieces, I think they will only get better as the season goes on. They started in Europe, had injures to their #1 defenseman, to their #1 LW yet are still winning games. They were never able to do that in the past. Only Pitt and Toronto in the East have more points! What do you want? I guess the obvious is a new head coach but dude! What could you want more from a team?
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
@Osaka, As I said to you higher on this same page, the only reaon the Kings record is as good as it is is because Jon Quick has been on fire. Now that he’s come back to Earth, look at our record.
I want the Kings to show their talent and play like we all know they can, which they haven’t so far IMO. I will give Murray credit when credit is due. Sitting the hottest goaltender in the league after 2 days off was a poor choice. That’s not the first time i’ve had to say that about TM. A 21st ranked offense with the talent this team has is a disappointment. I’m sorry you don’t see it that way. I haven’t been impressed by their play, Quick has been the reason our record is so good. We’ll discuss this in 10 games and at that point we’ll have a better idea as to just how good this team is playing.
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TM only has us in line for 105 points, thar must be bad.
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Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
@jet, Dude that is what I am saying? What is going on here? We are playing well! Tough crowd.
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jet Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
@Osaka, not tough, unresonable. Even when we lose, we are very competitive and play hard the entire game. This was far from the case a few years ago.
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The Batman Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
@Osaka, I like how you think Osaka, we are playing well imo too, but i think whats aggravating to everyone else is TM’s dumb reasons for things, and how he contradicts himself and his system that he implements. what he pretty much wants all the time is hoping for the opposing goalie to leave rebounds in order for us to score instead of using the skill that we clearly have to make some nice passes and just flat out beat the other team, not just hoping for something to bounce our way. Yes we are winning, yes we are in line for some good points but its just annoying and frustrating to win and lose by this method when other teams seem to beat us when are defintely out working and out playing them
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
@The Batman, And out talenting them. I know that’s not a word, but it fits with what you’re saying.
The Batman Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
@ CB14 its totally a word if it makes sense
RobSD Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 9:31 am
@The Batman,
I agree. Put up or shut up this year. Do or die. Now or never. The time is flipping now. Murray’s job is dependent on the playoff run. Playoffs are expected… how deep we go is the job test meter. That doesn’t make sense does it. You know what I mean.
puck73 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
@Osaka, I still think TM is a micromanager, and constantly tinkers with line combintions, even when they are working. That being said, I will meet you half way, I wont demand TM be fired as long as he gets past the 1st round of the playoffs…I dont think thats too much to ask for after 2 first round exits in a row, do you ?
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Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
@puck73, I second you on this, I still wish he would let us come in the zone with speed thou.
Osaka Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
@puck73, That is fair, if we lose in the first round it might be time for a change. That is just the reality of sports, he is the captain of the ship so he is responsible. I agree 100 %. 11 games into the season and only 4 teams in the league have more points than the Kings, now is not the time.
CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
@Osaka, Fair Enough.
KingsFanFTW Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
@jet, it seems to be like that but in time it could end up to 98 points as last year u never know..
Remember the Kings did good in the beginning as last year and end up at 98 points at the end of the season…
So i think everyone got the right to say their opinions
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Pesus Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
@jet,
There is no excuse to be 6-5 right now.
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Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
@Pesus, we aren’t we are 6-3-2
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Osaka Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 12:23 am
@Pesus, So you really believe we have the most talent of any team in the league? We are pretty good but there are better teams. How about the 2 teams that were in the finals last year, Boston and Vancouver, we have a better record. The team that knocked us out of the playoffs, we have more points. Do you think Boston, Vancouver, and SJ should all fire their coaches.
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so, when do we play Winnipeg? maybe Bernier will get a start….
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brianguy Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
@brianguy,
oh and the Ducks. on the road anyway….
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Lombardy really made this team slower and older with no upside.
Bring back Loctionov . Bench DD for lack of effort.
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jet Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
@bear777, this is funny, look at the opening night line up 4 years ago.
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puck73 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
@bear777, Bench Doughty? Uh, yah, right away. And while were at it, lets bench that Kopi guy too, he is rather overpaid, and isnt producing enough to justify his price tag, right?
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Andrew: the second coming Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
@puck73, Pfft only 6th in the league in points! That bum
.
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bbb7 Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 9:24 am
@bear777, Slower? Did you even watch the team last season?
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Is it me, or did Trent Hunter log way too many minutes in the 3rd? I mean, we needed a goal, right? Isn’t thst when you shorten the bench and put your offensive guys out there?
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Ladies calm down. Only 11 games in. We lose twice and the sky is falling. Stress brings grey hair.
BTW good seeing you on tv Rich…. Funny you look so angry in the picture on the kings website….
We’ll have the cup this year!!!
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CB14 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
@Lake Forest, I’m glad you’re telling only the Ladies to calm down, that means I can keep on with the fire TM, he sucks comments. Since i’m a man and all.
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puck73 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
@Lake Forest, To answer your question, why is Parse taking penalties? This is only his 3rd game back, relax, he is still getting into a rythem and already has 2 goals and is proving to be way more dangerous in a top 6 role then Penner could ever dream.
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Lake Forest Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 8:29 am
@puck73, Puck, I agree with you. I just think he is taking stupid penalties.
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love richards!! that guy is so huge for us.. moreau has been playing really good this season.. doughty has been relatively ineffective.. johnson is looking great.. i miss voynov… can’t believe he sat quick.. want gagne back asap… penner has to be a stoner… parse has to stay out of the penalty box.. i miss voynov..
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puck73 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
@letswinthecup2012, Parse has 2 goals in 3 games, what has Penner done in a top 6 role ?
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letswinthecup2012 Reply:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
@puck73,
hell ya man, i like parse.. just has a penalty or two every game… penner hasn’t done much. tonight he had a couple of good forechecks.. he was best on the third line with stoll.. i like parse on the top lines.. i wanna see some points out of penner
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letswinthecup2012 Reply:
November 1st, 2011 at 12:25 am
@letswinthecup2012,
just re-read that.. didn’t mean penner was the best on the line, i just meant he was more effective on the third line than the first or second line..
Now I know there are some TM supporters out there that get a little bewildered by all the fire TM, he sucks comments, but I have a question or two for you guys out of curiosity. Do you guys believe that TM’s system provides ample enough offense? Do you believe that in the last three years and including this one of being in the bottom half of league scoring, that the reason is because of lack of skill, lack of effort, or lack of executing TM’s system properly? Do you guys believe that a team in the bottom of the league in scoring can keep up with the best teams in the league and truly contend for the Cup through several rounds in the playoffs? Do you guys believe in “shot mentality”, “net presence”, and “compete level”, as being the only things needed to be coached to a Cup winning team? Just wondering.
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Osaka Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 12:59 am
@PP Anybody?, You answered your own question. Does the system allow us to score enough goals, four teams in the league have more points than us so I guess it does allow us to score enough eh. This whole line of reasoning saying that our system doesn’t work while we have a winning record is a fallacy. We have played 11 games so it is a little early to throw out stats. Boston is 3-7, should they fire their coach? We have scored more goals than them. Dallas has scored more than us but we beat them twice. Edmonton is one of the 4 teams to have more points than us yet we have scored more goals than them……. I think we need to hit at least the 20 game mark before we can even evaluate the team and see where we stand. The offense has looked good. Today the offense looked pretty good, had a lot of chances. What is a concern is when you don’t have the scoring chances but we had a few the last couple of games. I won’t even get into if a team that is in the bottom half of the league in scoring questioning because we have only played 11 games. In the past 3 years has the system been an issue with our scoring? Last year we were 25th G/G but the year before we were 9th. The system is an issue as far as we will never be one of the top scoring teams in the league, we don’t play that style. Could we score more with a different system, of course, but you give up more goals. I think we dropped in goals per game last year because we lost Frolov and didn’t replace those goals so in that sense it was a talent issue. But again the Kings play a tighter system so scoring will always be less than what you guys here want. 20 game mark and see where we need to improve. We are getting scoring chances so as of now offense is not a concern.
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PP Anybody? Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 1:26 am
@Osaka, the offense has looked good? I guess I just need to know where you shop for your rose colored glasses then, cause I haven’t seen it look that way for a while now. Seriously though, the thing I don’t get when these arguments come up, is why do TM supporters think that if we tinker with the system to add more offense, that’ll mean our defense will fall apart? I think the people that get on TM’s case just want to see us do both. It really shouldn’t be too much to ask.
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Lake Forest Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 10:07 am
@PP Anybody?, I’m all for getting more offense into the system, sure that wouldn’t hurt. Just tired of the complaints day in day out after a loss. If we don’t win every game, everyone cries.
We dont activate the D-men and we wonder why we dont get the quality scoring chances? Did anyone else notice how Colo brought four men down on the attack 10 times more (at least) than the Kings but catastrophe didn’t strike them!
Wake up MURRAY!!
This coach is to conservative and our lack of scoring proves it. Thats two games we should have won. The Pacific division will not suffer this kind of stupidity.
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FdoFmFull Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 8:55 am
@johnjuan, You’re making too much sense, shut the front door!
You mean, look around and smell the coffee, this is how modern NHL hockey is being played?
Why would you ask the coach to get out of his comfort zone?
Adapt or parish…
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its so frustrating to see amazing players come here and not score and guys like moulson leave and score tons.. we have so much talent and this stupid system will never win a cup.. if quick isnt perfect we lose lol…
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Fire Murray…….
Change the lines…….
Bench players who don’t perform…….
Hold all accountable……
Spread out in the O zone………..
Carry the puck through the N zone…….
Quick passes out of our end with purpose…….
Work on the PP………
Leave the PK alone its fine…….
Rotate Quick and Bernier unless Quick has a 3 game shutout going………
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Dude Murray said he was gonna play the hot goalie and guess what? he went against his words. and f’d up the whole flow of the team. but at least its happening early in the season. Kings will bounce back until someone gets injured later in the season. Brown? God i hope it’s penner. He’s such a worthless overpaid Pylon. He needs to act like a first liner. He earned his place there! Now it’s time to earn his keep! Murray here’s a little coaching advice.. Let the team play. Stop trying to control and tinker everything liek it’s a friggin model train. Let the players play, and when u need to make a decision do it, but don’t mess with the flow. Let the people, the players, play the game. Oh and yes Voynov earned his stay. This is BS. Will be an interesting season. Hopefully TM and DL learn to count their blessings and appreciate them and use them for what they are instead of trying to control and force some kind of Penner on the first line thing. Because Brian Boyle is a Ranger now and he was allot cheaper. heh
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The only thing offensive about TM’s system is how bad it is offensively. It doesn’t seem like we can score more than 2 goals per game, and with the talent here, there is no excuse for that. I see that TM somehow found a way to blame the arena for the loss instead of manning up. Wow.
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“Instead, we’re trying to score from the blue line or from the tops of the circles. It’s a hard thing to do, because if you don’t, it is what it is. You miss the net and now you probably go back and break out again.” Very interesting!!! TM doesn’t think that taking shots right in side the blue-line are part of his shot mentality? But I thought that’s what his players are programmed to do, get it inside the blue and blast away? Even our 3rd and 4th lines don’t give up possession like that very often, but not our 2nd line… it’s like a friggen hot potato on DB’s stick… hopefully some folks gathered around and watched what TM was talking about…
Should’ve won that game 2-1 if you ask me…JQ let his momentum take him too far out of the net (it’s happened a few times so far in this young season) and that shot by Dushesne was super-sick, so not much to be done about that one… oh well, bring on our division games!!
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Adamic39 Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
@Stuart, TM wants the shots. What he was saying was try to get the shot to hit the goalie and get a rebound instead of trying to pinpoint a blast from the point into the top corner of the net. If you miss the net, then the puck rings around the boards out of the zone.
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I thought they played very well and were unlucky. Sometimes that just happens
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
October 31st, 2011 at 11:15 am
@Carol Vadnais, I thought they played hard–not all that smart, though. If Quick had a better night in net, they would have won, because the Avs didn’t play all that great.
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when is TM going to allow JJ and DD to free lance in the offensive zone like the 2 d-men in San Jose(Burns is the one added this summer)?
they both have the ability and maturity to handle this responsibility. it always can go back to the conservative style we have. having them release would make a big difference. it could lead to an occasional outnumbered attack, that’s the downside worthtaking, but with the 3 years of practicing coverage, why not trust the team to take on the responsibility?
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I like how we lose one game and everyone is quick to jump on the coaching staff . Relax we are built with defensive play first . The kings are fine and we have some of the best coaches in the league . it’s the sport of hvkey and sometimes the game doesn’t go your way . MOVE ON and get the next two points .
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TM, “We played really good.” Ladies and gentlemen, our head coach said this. Nothing more to say…
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@Sean,
As I mentioned, until recently I have been a staunch TM supporter. But as a long suffering Kings fan (the clue about how long is in my “handle”), I know I will go slightly nuts (maybe more than slightly) if this addition of the Kings doesn’t make it to The Cup finals at least, if not win the The Cup. The only significant missing component is TM’s defensive oriented system. It’s accomplished everything that could be asked for defensively and more. But it’s been an abomination offensively. And I don’t think it’s an either or situation. I think the right coach could give us both. Hey, I like TM and nothing would give me greater pleasure than eating my words. I’d eat them with a big ol’ smile on my face.
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