The Kings will announce a couple roster moves soon, with Drew Doughty going on injured reserve and defenseman Slava Voynov being called up from Manchester of the AHL. [update: It's now official.] Even if Doughty, with his “upper-body” injury, is out for the minimum of the 7-10 days he is estimated to be out, he could still return when healthy. Voynov played in two games for the Monarchs this weekend, with one goal and one assist, and was a healthy scratch today. He should be in town when the Kings resume practice tomorrow at 11 a.m. in El Segundo.
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Yessssssssssssssss for Voynov
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Cry Baby Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
@hip- check, Not surprising to see DD injured…this is what happens when you miss training camp. Should have been there Drew!
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historyguy67 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 12:02 am
@Cry Baby, Ummmmmm…did you even see the play on which he got hurt? That had nothing to do with training camp…you could be in perfect shape and get hurt on that hit!
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TurboLaserDavey Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 3:40 am
@historyguy67,
Im not sure if the argument is that a fit person would avoid that shot. Ask any hockey player how many more mistakes they will make if the gears are rusty. It wasnt the hit that cost him, it was his mistake.
Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:51 am
@historyguy67, I agree. How you could attribute that hit to missing camp is just down right silly.
Eric Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am
@historyguy67, Sure it did (or could have.) Perhaps if he was skating around with NHLers as opposed to the London Knights, he would be more weary of taking big hits. Maybe he would have had a better presence of mind to not skate into the zone looking at his feet.
Who really knows. We can’t say if it did or not.
Heads up!
fridgemagnet57 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am
@Cry Baby,
Missing training camp and drinking diet cokes are all valid reasons he got injured right? Maybe his hair is too long now?
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I’m guessing Voynov will not go back down. Martinez or Drewiske will be available for trade
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Buster Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
@Kozak,
I’m guessing Parse as well.
I wonder if Winnipeg would take him? They have that “defenseman who shall not be named because he gives them a bad name” up there.
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Paul G Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
@Buster, Randy Jones
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JohnPaulSly on twitter Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
@Kozak,
Hahahahahhaha. Yea lets trade Martinez to open up space for voynov. Maybe we can call up lokti and trade still too.
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TradedForADraftPick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
@JohnPaulSly on twitter,
while we are at it let’s trade Quick and just call up Martin Jones
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Simarosa Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
@TradedForADraftPick,
It would be better than calling up Zatkoff.
CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@JohnPaulSly on twitter, Still sucks.
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JohnPaulSly on twitter Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@Kozak,
Hahahahahhaha. Yea lets trade Martinez to open up space for voynov. Maybe we can call up lokti and trade stoll too. Jones looked great in manchester. Probably a good time to trade quick and Bernier too, to let Jones play.
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Sebastian Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
@JohnPaulSly on twitter, Haha best post today
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Scot Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
@Sebastian,
Does that mean you’ve read every single post posted today?
Brownkingsfan Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@JohnPaulSly on twitter, How about we send Kopitar down instead of Stoll so Loktionov can come up? (I’m hoping all of you are being as sarcastic as me about who should replace who)! If not, you haven’t been following Martinez this pre-season until now. I really like Voynov, but let’s get serious. I wouldn’t trade Martinez for him. I hope Voynov gets some actual play time and doesn’t sit in the press box too much. I’m on the fence with Drewiske…
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MyKay Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
@Brownkingsfan, or lets send Doughty and Johnson down and open up room so that Martinez and Voynov can both play the entire season!
chip Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
@Brownkingsfan, Let’s just send ‘em all down and bring ‘em all up. Players, coaches, GMs, trainers, skate sharpeners, puck bunnies, concessionaires…
Calder Cup on the mantle over Kopitar’s fireplace! WooHoo. GKG!
He finally gets his call up to the promised land.
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Now will Murray play him?
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Token Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
@Scootty, I’m sure Slava would prefer ice time, but press box on the Kings pays $10000, while being bussed around New England working his tush off is a cool $800 per game.
Just sayin.
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Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:55 am
@Scootty, I’m hoping no! Just to piss everyone off.
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it will be very interesting indeed if Voynov sticks with the club. I would be worried if I was Parse. Much more likely TM rolls with extra defensemen.
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bitter Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@TradedForADraftPick,
They already carry and extra defenseman. His name is Drewiske. He replaced Martinez in the line up last night.
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TradedForADraftPick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
@bitter,
Defensemen as in plural. As in rotating Martinez, Drewiske, and Voynov provided he stays up.
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EJ Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
@TradedForADraftPick, should not happen; will not happen.
Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:57 am
@TradedForADraftPick, And if we have an injury to a forward how does having 3 defenseman in that transition spot help us?
I’m glad Voynov’s getting a shot with the big club. I expect him to be paired with Mitchell. Good luck VV!
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Saw Doughts today and he didn’t seem to be in any distress.
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goldielocks Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
@Lordstanley,
Guessing this is just a precaution. The organization doesn’t want to take a chance. DD will be back before we know it.
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HockeyOnly Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
@Lordstanley, I would guess from the hit it’s his right high rib cage.
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gcheng Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
@HockeyOnly,
i agree. i think he bruised his rib cage. i twisted my rib once this year and it took me a week to get full range of motion back.
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chip Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
@gcheng, He was so stupid not to turn his wallet toward the hit. He would have never felt a thing.
BringBackMarcel Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:02 am
@chip, Now THAT’s the best post on the thread! Hahaha!
DBking Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
@HockeyOnly, Sure looked like a shoulder to me…
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c4sraser Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:57 am
@DBking, i think his ego got hurt more than anything
I hope Voynov tears it up
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Going to miss Voynov in Manchester….the kid deserves a chance, he’s been a great player for the Monarchs.
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Go Voynov Go! The kid will be a superstar. Now IS his time to prove it.
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over/under how many games before Lokti gets a call up? Clifford is looking like he could use a stint in Manchester
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
@TradedForADraftPick, Lokti is a Center u need a forward to get injured and we still got parse so i dont want any Forwards to get injured at all so stop jinxing it
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Not to mention Lokti is a center, and hasn’t made an impact at all as a winger.
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TradedForADraftPick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
@Dominick,
You play Lokti at center. You move Lewis to wing. Already is a stud there and it’s not like he is imperative for faceoffs.
KingsFanFTW Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
@Dominick, true but he did as a Center LOL
CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
@TradedForADraftPick, Exactly!
Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
@TradedForADraftPick, That would be cool, but that’s a move the Kings can save for an injury. If they do it now, a player would have to leave, and I don’t see the Kings giving away any depth just to give a guy a chance now. That means later if he gets hurt, we have no one to replace him. 2 strait shoulder injuries is a concern, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Kings give him a taste when an injury comes, then see how he holds up for a whole season before making it permanant.
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Voynov will be up for a few games and go back when DD returns. Every game Voynov plays in the NHL is an opportunity for him to show that he can play well but this still isn’t “his time.”
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KC23 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
@bitter, thank goodness there is some sanity still left.
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
@bitter, I agree. As soon as he gets sent back down, I suspect some fans will lose their marbles.
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sloppy joe Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
@Dominick, no worries he will be w the team next year when Mitchell’s contract is up.
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trytodethroneus Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
@sloppy joe,
Were you watching Mitchell play last night? He needs to be re-signed asap. I believe he played a team high in minutes, and played like a madman. Big mistake if we don’t resign him.
Shotongoal Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
@sloppy joe, there is NO way the Kings should NOT re-sign Mitchell, he is an anchor for the blueline.
Markisonfire Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
@bitter, I’m not going to comment on whether it is his time or not. Martinez was just benched for Drewiske – it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that Martinez gets demoted, or even Drewiske.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
@Markisonfire, I think one of them would be more likely to be traded than demoted because they would have to pass through waivers and I don’t see either one of them clearing waivers. DD2 might, but Martinez definately wouldn’t. Martinez being traded makes more sense because he could fetch more in return and because we have more offensive defenseman in the minors than we do defensive defenseman. Although i’m not advocting AM.
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Not counting todays game, the top 5 in AHL +/- are pretty much all Monarchs with Lotkionov leading the league at +7 and Hickey and Campbell tied for second at +6.
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
@hipcheck, That’s some nice +/- there….
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
@hipcheck, I thought Voynov was a +5 and Hickey is a +6.
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
@hipcheck, My bad. Your talking Lokti.
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HockeyOnly Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
@hipcheck, That’s great for the AHL, but how does it translate to the NHL?? Muzzin from what I have seen of him is about like D. King. Lokti reminds me of his twin brother Oscar.
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hip- check Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
@hipcheck, Why did u steal my name… I thought last year this was cleared up….
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hipcheck Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:55 am
@hip- check, and you are????
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Rich, I don’t understand your statement:
“Even if Doughty, with his “upper-body” injury, is out for the minimum of the 7-10 days he is estimated to be out, he could still return when healthy.”
With Doughty going on IR, he is out for at least 7 days. Even if he is healthy enough to play on Tuesday, he can’t.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
@Sydor25, I think he means he won’t miss any additional games by going on the I.R. because even if he comes back at the earliest they expect him to, which is in 7 days, he will be able to come off the I.R. at that point.
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Sydor25 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
@CB14, Ah, I see. Seems a little convoluted though. Just say he is out a minimum of 7 days by going on IR.
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TradedForADraftPick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
@Sydor25,
yeah I made that same implication. just seemed rather redundant I guess.
It makes perfect sense that the Kings bring up a RD-man to offset Doughty’s absence. Hope Voynov lights it up and sticks! Wish Kings would bring up Loktionov too!
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Could this injury somehow be related to his missing training camp? I think I read somewhere that guys who join their teams late like Doughty did are often out shape, get off to a slow start, or get hurt. In his case he seemed to be in shape and quick, but maybe he isn’t as sharp as he could be which is why he got leveled last night.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
@efam, In terms of being “sharp”, it’s impossible to say if that played a part in his injury. Personally I don’t think it did.
With regards to missing training camp, those injuries are usually from being out of shape and exerting yourself while not in great shape. Often times they end up pulling muscles, like groin or hammy’s. Not what happened to Drew.
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Bill M. Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
@CB14, That is also a concept held over from a time when training camp was used as a time to get back in shape after a off-season of rest. That’s not really the case any more, players are expected to have intense off-season training. Even if they do slack off, yeah, it’s going to be pulled muscles, this doesn’t sound like that.
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efam Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
@Bill M., @CB14
My feeling is that maybe he got hit so hard because he didn’t have a chance to really get is timing back with enough pre-season games. Of course it’s all speculation, and there’s no way to “prove” my theory, I just thought I’d throw it out there.
PP Anybody? Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
@efam, I’m guessing the injury is somehow more related to the crushing hit he took by looking down at the puck for a second.
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HockeyOnly Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
@efam, No, it definitley relates to the huge hit made to his rib cage.
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the hockey don Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
@efam, Looks like double Ds started to believe his own hype and paid the price for it. Did he really think he was going to take the puck end to end and through the middle with traffic and not get leveled?
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StillneedDewey fka PakiFro Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
@the hockey don,
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Was the very first shift of the game the right time to try and split four flyers?
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I doubt Voynov will stay in L.A. as an “extra” defenseman. The Kings’ organization seems to believe it’s better for him to play every day (and dominate, perhaps?) in the AHL than watch NHL games from the press box.
Meanwhile, just wondering if Voynov paid RInaldo in US or Russian currency…
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
@Mel Powell, LOL!
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Scot Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
@Mel Powell,
Haha. He paid him in Russian currency, but I think he also signed a stick for him, gave him a case of cigars, & introduced him to his childhood friend, Anna Kournikova.
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Scot Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
@Scot,
This just in, Rinaldo retired as an NHL player & moved to the Caribbean with Kournikova.
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HockeyOnly Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
@Scot, That’s funny ROTFLMAO
Kingsfanone Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
@Scot,
I’m kinda surprised Charlie Sheen didn’t take a shot at Kournikova. But then, maybe he did and isn’t Russian enough?
Tommy Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
@Mel Powell, Lmao
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hipcheck Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:57 am
@Mel Powell, Im sure Voynov will see some time. What will be interesting to see is if drewiske and Amart stay in the rotation. Im sure the Kings wouldnt mind fielding offers for Drewisky at this point.
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SLAVAAHHH!!!!!
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OK Slava now this is the opportunity you’ve been waiting for, now what are you going to do with it? I was very disappointed with the way he finished camp. I know he was disheartened by TM’s comments but he chose to sulk instead of proving TM wrong.
I honestly don’t think he’s going to stick once DD gets back, but this is an opportunity to show what he can do during the regular season, when it counts.
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
@AZ King, Concur…
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Glad Slava Voynov gets a call up, best to not take chances with Drew, and judging by the hit it was probably a shoulder injury. Remember last year when drew went down early, we still came through all right, hopefully it will be the same outcome this time.
Time to show us what you got Voynov, your time is now!!
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Dewey is an integral part of the Kings, another “face of the franchise”. You don’t pay someone 7mil a year to play in the AHL on a conditioning stint. Dewey will be back, probably in 7 days. And unfortunately, VV will head back to Manch when Dewey comes back, too bad. I’d love to see VV stick, he’s going to be a very good NHL defenseman.
Like so many others here, I’d also like to see Lokti come up and next year I’m certain he makes the team; he’ll probably get a shot before the season is over, the same for Hicks & Muzz depending on how healthy the Kings stay.
I also don’t see the Kings sending down either AMmart or DD2, neither would clear waivers and both have played well. DD2 looked good yesterday against East LA. Either player would be grabbed in a sec by any one of a number of teams in the NHL. Barring a trade which I sincerely doubt or another injury, VV will be back in Manch. But…I look forward to watching him play regularly next year.
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FrankinVA Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
@Moondoggie,
I agree with you, good post. It would be tough to see AM or DD2 get traded, or waived. I’ll bet they both like being KINGs, and they appear to be good “team first” players. Having all that depth on the team is a good thing to have. Lets go Kings, Beat those Blues!
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
@FrankinVA, The depth in D and in goal is positively scary; the system is totally stocked. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen the Kings this loaded and goes all the way back to 67-68…..
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Bingram Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
@Moondoggie,
Been there since the beginning also and I couldn’t agree more.
Go Kings, go!!
Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
@bingram, No kidding?!?! Another ol timer eh?? Damn, we’ve been through some suffering. But dude, this is our year!!!
LGK!!!
There is no certainty that Voynov is even with the Kings next season, let alone a sure thing he’s in the line up. Those who are in the line up now who don’t have expiring contracts are most likely to be in the line up again next season. So unless the King’s decide to move salary due to being out of the playoff race before the deadline or decide to not resign an expiring contract like Mitchell, I doubt Voynov or any prospect for that matter is a sure thing next season.
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
@bitter, Voynov is signed for 2 years though. Gaurentee by next season he’s in the line up full time, or the Kings trade him.
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bitter Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
@Dominick,
Maybe, but I still think Hickey gets moved.
Scenario:
If we have a defenseman go down for a long time this season and Voynov gets an extended call up, (more than 10 days) and plays very well, then maybe he beats out Drewiske next year. But if the Kings are in a good playoff position this year, and there is an opportunity to pick up a real game changer forward, I see them moving Voynov and or Hickey.
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
@bitter, I think DL has the depth he wants, and will keep it that way as long as possible. He’ll probably work Voynov in 30 to 60 games for the next 2 seasons, and use that to negotiate another contract, with the promise that Voynov is very much the future of this franchise. If he resists, and refuses to sign a longer contract, he can leave to the KHL 2 years from now (if he makes it that long). That is not preferable for Voynov because that means 4 more years before he can play in the NHL as a UFA. If you think DL’s afraid, think about his best D-man missing camp, and possibly sitting out a whole season, and tell me DL wouldn’t do it.
Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
@bitter, I tend to agree with Dominick on this one. I could be wrong but the D will be a little different next year. I love Mitchell but with Voynov and Hicks waiting in the wings plus Muzz, you’re going to see a trade or someone get picked up in waivers, its inevitable and for once a great position for the Kings to be in. I can’t remember the Kings ever being this stocked, especially in their own end….
If I’m a betting person (and in this sport I’m definitely not) I think Voynov makes the team next year, this year possibly if a trade or injury comes into play.
Steven H Brown Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:16 am
@bitter, Well they did so well so far with the pickup of Penner last year, I’m sure Lombardi wants to do that again, with Voynov, or Hickey. DP still has a chance to turn things around on that assessment, but he seems to be in Terry’s doghouse and people seem to stay there a while, once they get there. also seems as likely that a goaltender is the next piece traded rather than a d man.
Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
@Dominick, Don’t see a trade bud….Honestly, I was surprised when they sent him back to Manch but its because DL could expose him to waivers; he couldn’t expose DD2 or Amart without losing them. He’ll make the team next year and, depending on injuries he may play quite a bit this year with LA. We’ll see….
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
@Moondoggie, I honestly don’t see DL trading anyone at all. DL loves his draft picks, and hasn’t shown a pattern of being trade happy. As soon as someone makes the top of the food chain, everyone wants to get rid (and do it for nothing) of whoevers underneath him.
Prime example: “Get rid of Quick” poppycock! even if Bernier becomes a #1 DL isn’t waiting in the wings for this to happen so he could get rid of one. He’ll let Quick fight his way back. We’ll get awsome goaltending in the meantime, and be deeper than any team in the league because of it.
Voynov isn’t an NHL defenseman yet. If he makes his mark like Martinez did last year, great. If he doesn’t, we have plenty of time. If a trade presents itself DL will consider it, but saying trade guys for no reason is so Bruce McNall era, and it’s not going to happen.
This isn’t pick your favorite and everybody else underneath them is cannon fodder. That might be how you build a team on NHL 2011 for the Play station, but that’s not the Kings way in reality.
Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
@Moondoggie, Oh yea! I agree with you. lol
Ha ha ha! You guys really want a guy who was just a healthy scratch?
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FrankinVA Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
@Dominick,
Mr Positive stikes again with another uplifting post. Post something that is positive about someone on the team at least once or twice a season. So down on alot of players so early in the season. Wow.
Have a beer and be cool bro. I’ll check on your posts in the future to see how you are doing.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
@FrankinVA, You must not follow the site very closely.
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FrankinVA Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
@CB14,
Wasn’t a good post. my Bad. Sorry Dominick. I’ll be cool buddy.
SLIM Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
@FrankinVA,
Although you might be correct concerning
other unnamed Posters…Dom is definitely not one of these..
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
@SLIM, Yep….He’s a keeper….plus he likes the Kings, what more can you say?? LOL
Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oOuSx3_wwc
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Kingsfanone Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
@Dominick,
Hahaha!
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
@Dominick, You’re welcome. BTW, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYoQzLVgN84&feature=related
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DesertKing Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:47 am
@Dominick,
You can never have too much Cartman.
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CT King Reply:
October 18th, 2011 at 6:57 am
@Dominick, Slava was a healthy scratch because he was packing for his trip to LA.
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St.louis & ducks on fresh 102.5 St.louis
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rumpa#19 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
@rumpa#19, Sorry 102.5 is no good delayed brod cast
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why is everyone so down on Martinez? he has proven to be a really capable two way defensemen at 15 minutes a night. dont get this one, he is young, talented and inexpensive!!
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HockeyOnly Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
@SVIK, Isn’t it amazing how many DL wanna be’s there are here…… WOW!!!
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King Doughnuts Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
@SVIK, That’s why none of us here are GMs.
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
@King Doughnuts, Amen to that!
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Ike Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
@SVIK, I agree. So far he has shown more at the NHL level than Voynov. I wouldn’t cut Martinez loose anytime soon. He’s solid and made the team over Voynov.
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I think Martinez will be quite valuable. He’s got good size, decent speed and above average shot. He’s not overly physical and could improve there but he is more than serviceable for our needs now. I think this is the guy Voynov has to beat out for a full time spot. Unless they think Martinez and Drewiske are interchangable. Then he’s got to beat out both of them for either the 6 or 7 spot.
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
@bitter, He’s got a great shot from the point, easily as good as Dewey’s or JMFJ’s….The problem, he doesn’t use it enough….
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I really like Martinez, I say if we’re gonna drop someone it should be Parse or Drewiske
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A CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT………….DD faking injury to avoid being booed at home opener
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
@Happy Lappy, Haha. That’s a good one.
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
@Happy Lappy, Soooo…….as long as he misses the home opener he’s good? Tell you the truth, if I was faking it, I would pretend I got hit in the nuts, so I could have a reason to grab my crotch on TV.
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It is now super official – John Ahlers, the Ducks announcer, is an idiot. He just stated that the Kings will be the biggest “flop” for this season. Hayward selected Calgary.
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Jack the Lad Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
@DesertKing, It was official about 10 years ago!
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murf Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
@Jack the Lad, desert kings post was ( super official ) its like double secret probation
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
@DesertKing, What’s even more shocking is that you actually listened to what the Quacks announcers said. LOL. I didn’t think that was possible.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
@CB14,
Or recommended.
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DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
@CB14,
I needed to clear my mind and achieve a state of peace. Listening to mindless droning helps with the process and since I couldnt afford one of those Tibetan monks CD, I figured I would sub in the Ducks game. Besides, I wanted to see St. Louis play since they are playing us Tuesday.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
@DesertKing,
That last line explains it. How did they look?
DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
@CB14
If they play this bad on Tuesday, we should win. They have really been bad in front of Halak.
CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
@DesertKing, Good to hear. Although they kicked our butts all last year so i’m not expecting an easy game.
DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
@CB14
Yeah, they had our number last year for sure. If we can beat them, it will be a good indicator of our improvement.
SLIM Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
@DesertKing,
WOW..I saw that also and was going to post…
If nothing else they are at least consistently bias and stupid..
I’m glad tho… Gives me more reason to dislike the Mighty Schmucks…
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crashin'da net Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
@DesertKing, Hey, we look good on paper so far and that’s it. 2 OT victories by Quick standing on his head each time doesn’t bring a whole lot of comfort so far. And don’t get me started on Penner again. I need to see more Ws and a larger GF/GA spread before counting my chickens. I do like what I see in Kopi, Rick, Richardson, JJ, and Man-on-Fire Willie so far. The rest need to step it up.
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miracle.on.manchester Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
@crashin’da net, I’ll take the wins on the longest road trip ever designed by mankind.
Not all wins are gonna be of the 5-1 variety so getting those 2 gritty wins against east coast teams on foreign soil and the tail end of the monster trek is more valuable than one can imagine.
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Kings Fan South Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 5:42 am
@DesertKing, I didn’t even listen to the Quacks announcers. Yeah Center Ice. I had the STL broadcast on!
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c4sraser Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
@DesertKing, heywerds an idiot also
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Off topic, but did anybody else catch the photo in todays L.A.Times today with the caption, Matt Greene kicks Zac Rinaldo? Seriously?, do they really think he was actually kicking another player during a N.H.L. game?
Stupid mainstream media looking for any chance to knock hockey. Do you think that caption would ever appear in a N.F.L. photo? And the worst thing is, some casual non hockey fan is going to open up the sports page and believe there IS kicking in the N.H.L.
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DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
@Jack the Lad,
Someone still reads the Times? Why?
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jet Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
@DesertKing, because Aunt B still lines the bottom of the bird cage?
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DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
@jet,
That explains why birds are stupid
Kingsfanone Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
@jet,
Maybe birds aren’t so stupid. They’re doing their business on the Times then, right?
DesertKing Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:45 am
@kingsfanone
Never though of it that way and can’t argue with that logic
Drewiske plays like he did yesterday he’ll be around for awhile. Schuds and Mitchell are outstanding players. We need both of these guys to stay healthy. Next Drew and Jack, young guns ready at a drop of a dime. Drew get well! Now the next two are up in the air. Greene should have that “A” stripped off his jersey for the way he played, and Martinez is off to a slow start. He still has the skill that made him a fan favorite last season. Drewiske surprised the hell out of me. We need him to play tough hockey all the time. Voynov is a big time talent, but is he truly ready. I guess we will find out soon enough.
As some of you know I have a big job in Manhatten Beach to complete. I’ll be in town for about 10 days. I’m going to go to the game vs Dallas. Would like to meet up with some of you if I can. Nothing like meeting fellow insiders while in town. Someday my goal is to meet KC and friends. I heard that at the Redondo Cafe has some cool watch partys during King games. I’ll be there for the opener. Anyone willing to show up I’ll buy a beer. It’s all about friendships around here. Even if we disagree it’s still fun to chat Kings hockey.
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SLIM Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
@kinginsaltlake,
Maybe you should meet up with Greene
Buy him a beer and strip his “A” off…
Just a thought…
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
@kinginsaltlake, DD2 looked very good yesterday, very good. Will he stay consistent, that is the key. We’ll see. VV is all about the future. It’s his first chance to get some regular time in the NHL. My guess, he’ll do well. After that, it’s up to DL. We’d all like to see Voynov up with the Kings but not in the press box. Let him keep playing in Manch until a full-time job opens up which will probably be next year. That will do both Slava and the Kings a world of good….
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LittleRhody Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
@kinginsaltlake, Hey buddy, we will be at the 22nd game vs, Dallas. Let’s make sure we meet up before the game. I’ll be in sec 304
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WELCOME BACK U DESERVED TO MAKE THE TEAM IN THE FIRST PLACE
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Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
@Mike in Oregon,
Deserved? The guys here paid their dues in the minors, went through their rookie seasons, Worked their way up the ranks, but somehow Voynov is more deserving? I love the Kid, but I say do something first. This is America, and unless you have naked pictures of Terry Murray, you have to earn it, just like everybody else.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
@Dominick, So that explains why Westy’s on the team.
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SLIM Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
@Dominick,
I thought this has already been established..
Naked pictures of TM with farm animals…
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DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
@SLIM,
Not sure I want to see pictures of naked farm animals.
jet Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
@SLIM, the line has just been crossed
Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
@SLIM, Damn you guys are funny….Rich is going to kick out butts! LOL
c4sraser Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:17 am
@SLIM, whats wrong wit naked farm animals
Am I the lnyl one thinking that this will also be a good chance for (drum roll)…Thomas Hickey?
He can now take over Manchester (at least temporarily)) as the lead offensive defenseman and have Nicolas Desclauriers as healthy competition, time to step up Hickey!
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Paul G Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
@Paul G, Only*
Deslauriers*
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Big deep breath time!
Martinez was “benched” because Murray wanted a big bodied defenseman on Greene’s line. Alec is playing fine and not in the doghouse.
Penner got “bruised” in the fight and saw limited minutes in the game. (OK, he got his butt whooped, but props nonetheless).
Voynov is a right-hand shot and a good call-up when we need to play someone on right-side D. Also being a puck-moving D with a similar style to DD helps the situation.
No one is getting traded. Voynov is not bolting to Russia. Clifford is not getting sent down to the minors. Ad Nauseam!
You may all now return to your conspiracy theory du jours.
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SLIM Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
@Token,
So you’re saying Clifford isn’t possessed by Satan..
We’ve all seen those pictures of his eyes…
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Token Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
@SLIM, Hey, whatever endorsement deal works for him, he has my full support!
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
@Token, How Kentucky Fried Chicken hasn’t contacted him by now is beyond me. There’s some great advertising revenues right there. Kyle could request to be called by his initials, KFC. Or mabye after he scores a goal, or wins a fight, he could do a little chicken dance or something. The possibilities are endless. I’m not even in marketing and yet I know a great opportunity when I see one.
Token Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
@Token, Oddly enough, he looks like the twin brother of that crazy kid that gunned down the judge and congresswoman not to long ago. Scary resemblance.
edwood2 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
@Token, Thank you for the voice of reason. I have been here since the beginning, and while it is great to have new blood, sometimes I wish they would do their homework.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
@edwood2, I hate homework. That’s the whole reason why I dropped out of skoul.
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DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
@CB14,
You spelled it wrong. It is “scool.”
CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
@DesertKing, That’s why I should have stayed in scool.
DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
@CB14,
Purfict!
CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
@DesertKing,
Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
@CB14, Ahhhhhhhhh……..what great company we kiep!
Andrew Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 1:00 am
@CB14, the cool kids say skool
DesertKing Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am
@CB14,
Fer shure, dood!
Dominick Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
@Token, Agree fully.
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jason Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
@Token, huge probs to penner..good to see some heart!.. Martinez is awesome.. and drewiskes fine.. my fear is them letting johnson play more minutes.. powerplay and offensively he good but defensively hes a liability
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Kings just got some love from football broadcast for doing hero of the night. Kinda cool
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LA Kings just got a shout out on Sunday Night Football (since The Kings recognize a “hero of the game”)
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doh! Sebass, you beat me. can I at least get an assist? haha.
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Wow, Al Michaels just mentioned the L.A. Kings on Sunday Night Football. He was talking about the Chicago Bears honoring a member of the U.S. military and mentioned that the Kings do the same thing as well. Pretty cool to get mentioned like that by Al “Do you believe in Miracles” Michaels.
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DesertKing Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
@CB14,
Thats because he is a class announcer. Looks like he sneaks into a Kings game once in awhile. That portion when we honor our servicemen is actually the best part of the night. They all seem genuinely amazed at the great reception they receive from the Kings fans.
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scsf Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
@CB14
’tis cool indeed. I saw Al at a Kings game two years ago, buying a hotdog. Guess he’s a committed fan after all.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
@CB14,
Al Michaels used to be pretty regular down in the 100 sections at Kings home games.
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Play2Win Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
@CB14, Not that it really matters but wasn’t Al Michael’s caught dressing in woman’s clothes a few years back?
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
@Play2Win, That doesn’t sound right.
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Moondoggie Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
@CB14, You guys are sick….
CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
@Moondoggie, Don’t look at me officer, it was the other guy.
scsf Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
@Play2Win,
You’d be referring to Marv Albert.
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Play2Win Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
@scsf, You’re right my bad
nykingfan Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 5:11 am
@Play2Win,
No. That was Marv Albert
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c4sraser Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am
@Play2Win, yeah,womens clothes and naked farm animals
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Shotongoal Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
@CB14, Al used to be a season tix holder in section 111 about row 15, but I don’t know if he still is.
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So far, so good. 5 points out of these first games is good, not great. But, the thing that encourages me is that in the past, the Kings lose these close games. And I don’t believe I heard too much of the dreaded “running around chasing the puck” going on when they got behind. (Well, maybe in the Buffalo game.)
I think there are a positive things to look forward to, and there are things that will need to be fixed. Let’s see them get a good winning streak going without needing OT to get the wins.
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Good for Voynov, he deserves the call up
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Wonder what the reasoning to sitting Alec was. Maybe just a chance to get DD2 some playing time…maybe showcasing him? If there is a trade brewing, then I’m pretty sure there will be some interest in Alec. To me he is Drew Doughty Jr.
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Token Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
@ToughD, None of the above.
Coach wanted a big-body defensman out there with Greene to handle the toghness of the Flyers. Thats it. Having 500# o muscle on your blueline is sometimes a good thing.
Worked out fine and we got two points.
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jet Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
@Token, Im not so sure, Philly could use a big, cheap defenceman who can skate. Lilja’s time has past.
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Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:08 am
@Token, Yep. I wish every single move that has an easy explenation did come with rumors of “It’s a sign from god!” trade speculation.
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ToughD Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
@Dominick, Sorry but that can’t be the only explanation…maybe little of both. Cause that would mean if we faced Philly in a playoff series we would be playing DD2 over Martinez. Hope not. That would mean Alec is not in our long term plans, if he can only play against certain teams.
Just move Jack Johnson to left wing and keep all the defensemen
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fsd1 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:26 am
@KingsOf Comedy, fitting moniker….
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Number one reason why they brought up Voynov is because of the Power play. The only reason why.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
@Downsy89, We brought him up because he’s the most qualified to fill DD’s spot. He was the last d-man sent down and he was next in line to be called up. It didn’t have much to do with the PP.
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KC23 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
@CB14, I’d argue that Martinez is easily a better choice to put in in DD spot with Voynov going into Martinez’s spot. First line defenseman is no place to start off some poor euro kid’s career. That would be a great way to ruin a kid’s confidence you’ve work so hard to build up.
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CB14 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
@KC23, I agree with you, but since VV played the pre-season with Mitchell, I expect him to play with Mitchell. I think TM likes to keep WM on the left side, so I don’t see Martinez playing with him. Plus, why have 2 pairings that haven’t played together when you could only have 1? Although with TM, I wouldn’t be surprised to see VV paired with Westy. LOL
KC23 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am
@CB14, pre-season is zero indication that a rookie defenseman is ready to step into the real season as a first line defenseman. So far all Voynov has faced are AHL guys struggled to get to the show.
Pre-season = vets just trying to stay healthy during the pre-season and AHL forwards struggling to break into a forth line roll.
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Token Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 4:37 am
@Downsy89, Or maybe…
VV played on average 26 minutes TOI during preseason.
VV plays on average 26 minutes TOI for Manchester regularly.
VV gets a few $10000 paydays instead of the usual $800 per game so he doesn’t feel compelled to play in Europe first chance he gets. (he would double his AHL salary in two weeks with the big club!)
He plays a similar style to the recently injured superstar.
And finally, VV has sported one of the best mullets in the organization, and that goes a long way in pro Hockey!
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KC23 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:22 am
@Token, … and a great way to crush a young rising star’s confidence putting him on first line defense against the best forwards on the planet.
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RobSD Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:33 am
@KC23,
I have a feeling he won’t be playing on the first line but will have some good PP time. Everyone needs to stop crying. Everyone thought Martinez was going to fall apart when he got called up and he proved to be a very good defense man last year. I have a feeling VV will do the same.
Al Michael’s has had season tickets for the Kings for many years.
Pretty cool for him to mention the LA Kings on Sunday Night Football.
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Harry Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
@Scott Egebjerg,
He was mentioning La Kings for honoring military members at every game. Good for the Bears. All teams should.
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yetiman_oc Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
@Scott Egebjerg, I had the game on but wasn’t really paying attention until I heard Al mention the Kings. I’d love to hear him call some hockey games in the future.
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KC23 Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
@yetiman_oc, Wouldn’t that be cool.
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Brent Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
@Scott Egebjerg, Great guy, great family. Had the pleasure of serving him and his family for a year and a half.
Nice folks and definitely long time Kings fans.
“Do you believe in miracles?”
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Hope I get to see this guy play a regular season game. I think he can heal the wound. Love the kings goalies and defenseman such great talent. With that said the Kings have amazing scouts! Love DL’s team. This year really looks good for Kings fans!
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I like the call-up of Voynov. He’s the guy most like Doughty and fits well with Mitchell. I’m pretty sure Drewiske got the start because TM doesn’t like to go too long without getting everyone into a game.
If Voynov plays well it may open the door for a trade but probably not right away. Usually you don’t see NHL trades until at least 20 games into the season.
But with JJ and Doughty locked up long-term it makes me wonder if Voynov isn’t the one that gets dealt. Seems to me his ceiling is much higher than 3rd pairing.
Either way I hope he plays well.
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Token Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 4:55 am
@Dave, I doubt they trade anyone else on an ELC unless it is a deal similar to the Richards move.
Remember that DL has dreamed of a JMFJ – DD first line for years. That opens the door for VV and Deslaurier down the road.
It’s all about where the kids project, not necessarily where they are now.
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Dave Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:55 am
@Token, i guess it depends on if the Kings want to keep pairing up one offensive guy with one defensive guy. Voynov, Hickey and Muzzin are much more comparable to Doughty/Johnson than they are Mitchell/Scuderi. I haven’t seen much of Deslaurier but he might be the only sure bet that’s more of a defensive guy.
it’s entirely possible that they will go away from the offensive/defensive pairings that they have now. a doughty/johnson pairing would definitely be something different.
i just don’t see how Voynov, Muzzin, Hickey and Deslaurier are all on the NHL roster any time in the next five years unless some guys get moved.
personally, i’d rather see Voynov get Martinez’s minutes and be the 2nd PP unit point guy.
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RobSD Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
@Dave,
I wouldn’t mind seeing Greene replaced. He is a fun guy and a guy they younger one’s look up to but isn’t his contract up next year? Money wise, we will have to drop some of the bigger salaries and will end up signing the young guys much cheaper.
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Dave Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
@RobSD, pretty sure Greene has two more years on his deal after this one.
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What were the other moves Rich Hammond said were coming?
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yetiman_oc Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
@yetiman_oc, Duh…nevermind. I re-read the post and see what Rich Hammond meant by a couple of moves.
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Being we beat Philly with our new weapon Darth MR , I am sure we can also beat St Louis.
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through the first few games here are my thoughts
brown- where is he? where are the big hits and physical play?
Gagne, kopi, williams- a great 1st like whos going to be dangerous
penner- skating hard and standing up for teammates.. like his attitude change this season
Moreau- big dude with great skating, physical presence and screening goalies
Clifford and lewis- havent noticed these 2 much.. Lots of goals against this line
Quick- wow! hes been awesome and won games for us
Bernier- not the best start..again but kings didnt play great in front
Still waiting for the second line to step it up.. I know it sounds sketchy but i think moving either williams or gagne to the 2nd line may increase the scoring balance for the kings.. Probably gagne for penner.. with kopi penner will probably score and gangne and richards may be able to spice up the second line
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PRMan Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:42 am
@jason, Actually, I thought Lewis has been pretty good this season.
Brown and Clifford are definite no-shows, though.
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lakingsfan10 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 am
@jason,
“Clifford and lewis- havent noticed these 2 much.. Lots of goals against this line”
Clifford is only a -2, one of the goals he was just stepping on the ice after Brown’s llne was the real cause of the goal.
That’s just not a true statement.
Also Clifford has been playing with Moreau, Lewis, Westgarth… Not the most offensive players on the ice. That’s a far cry from Simmonds and Richardson in last years playoffs.
Clifford has created some good chances and has been in on the puck hard. I thought last game had had some good cycles and created a really good chance that lewis couldn’t finish on.
I like how some people on here already want to sell off Clifford and what he provides to this team. He provides a toughness that this team is lacking and taking him out and putting “Lokti” in, would only make it worse.
We don’t want to be a team like the nucks, that make it to the finals,only to get pushed around by a tougher team.
Look at what the Flyers wanted for Richards. They didn’t want Lokti, they wanted Simmer (tough gritty hockey player) and Schenn (tough gritty hockey player). Both players can score, hit, fight, and play a great defensive.
To me, I wouldn’t be questioning Clifford after 4 games. I would be question Brown and Stoll. Brown has 1 hit in the last 3 games, that’s not going to cut it. I think the reason Clifford or anyone else when on the 3rd line hasn’t been doing anything, is because of Stoll. Gut check time for the captain and Stoll.
Look, people on here wanted no part in JMFJ and al he has done is give us two game winning goals. Lets just all be happy the organization doesn’t listen to any of us. LOL
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Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:23 am
@lakingsfan10, Brown has played exclusively with Richards so far. Brown hasn’t been hitting (I think because he’s nursing an injury), but he is creating space out there for Richards. That line is a minus because their not scoring 5 on 5 either.
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Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:05 am
@jason,
Agree with everything (especially shuffling the first 2 lines around) except for Clifford, and Lewis being scored on. They have been scored on twice, but haven’t scored as a line, so their a -2.
Defensively their good. Offensively, if they just potted a few goals, they would be even at least. The team as a whole is doing well defensively at 2.50 GAA (take out that Buffalo game and their 1.50 GAA.). Scoring wise as a team their scoring at a 2.02 rate. The team as a whole is a minus in goal differential, and it has to go somewhere.
So far game 1 is the only game they managed to score 3, the rest are 2 or, under (not including shoot outs).
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FdoFmFull Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
@jason, The forward lines, except for #1, are unsettled. Mostly because Penner’s been unavailable most of the time, partly because it takes a while to gell. Even after Penner’s settles in, the big question with the top-6 is regarding Brown. When he’s skating hard, disrupting in the crease, he’s fabulous. Only needs to pass to his line mates and crash the net. Defensively, he needs to continue learning how to not give the puck away and to get back to dishing out his trademark body checks! He’s been good on the PP too by screening the goalie and not over handling the puck.
The bottom six has a couple of good elements playing well, but no coherence yet. I think Lewis, Moreau, and to a lesser extent, Stoll have played well. A definite “work in progress”.
I think DD2 played because he was the only roster player to not see action. He played well. Martinez is coming off a great performance. Was not “benched” for bad play. Voynov was recalled because he’s the best fit in DD’s absence, plain and simple. Most here just get carried away with speculation.
GKG!
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Rich,
Anything of note on Stephan Legenie? I read we got him from the Flyers and was sent straight to Manchester.
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Token Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 4:42 am
@Gustavo, Had an assist on his first game with the Monarchs.
Played on the short line with Kozun and Azevedo.
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Gustavo Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:56 am
@Token,
thank you.
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Hey Rich ~
What number will Voynov wear? Also, what are the dates for the Kings Insider Suites games? I’m gonna try to fly out for at least one.
Thx!
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AZ King Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:12 am
@Moondoggie,
He wore #26 during the preseason. The Detroit game is 11/19.
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KC23 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:31 am
@Moondoggie, The other suite game is Sat Jan 21st vs the Avs.
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Im not gonna this say karma, but there is a sense of justice that Voynov will get his shot…
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Good luck to Voynov. Let’s hope he shows the same type of play as he did during pre-season.
This is a huge loss, although it could have been much worse. Thank God it wasn’t another concussion.
I know everyone’s happy to see VV get his chance, but not when it comes at the expense of our best d’man.
Let’s hope he can minimize the loss somewhat. He’s not DD, so lets temper our expectations somewhat.
I’ll settle for a sound game with limited mistakes.
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Shotongoal Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
@nykingfan, It almost seems that Doughty’s contract thing during camp may have been a blessing in disguise now. It gave Voynov the opportunity to play some with Mitchell and this may make the transition while he’s up a little easier. There really is no replacing Doughty, but with the way Johnson has started the season and Voynov’s strong training camp, it may take the sting out of him being injured a little bit. Great to have depth this year!
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nykingfan Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:13 am
@Shotongoal,
You may very well be right.
I just think training camp and regular season are 2 different animals. in Pre-season you have a lot of kids playing who are not going to make the club. these are guys Voynov would be going against in Manchester. Once the season starts,he’s going to be exposed to a whole other level of competition.
But you’re right that he was gtiven the opportunity to play with Mitchell and at least get a feel for what is expected.
The depth we have is incredible….You knew there would come a point when a guy like Voynov would be needed. Now’s that time!
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Shotongoal Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am
@nykingfan, I too agree that camp/preseason is NOT regular season, but if Doughty had been there Voynov would probably not have gotten the chances that he did, which now is a good thing for him and the team….hopefully!
Pretty pleased with the Kings start. Didn’t think they could beat Philly. Does anybody know if Schenn is playing yet?
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KC23 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am
@Poorman, He’s playing in the AHL. Basically what happened with Schenn … in order to save over 1 mil in cap space hit due to a bazzare bonus clause in Schenn’s contract (writen by the King’s btw) that stated “if you average 25 min a game for 82 games you earn a million plus bonus (forget the exact amount). So, that cap hit has to stay on the books until it is impossible to attain it. The only way to make it “impossible” for Schenn to obtain the bonus (because the wording was “average” 25 min for 82 games) was to send him to the AHL for one game so he couldn’t play 82 games.
So the flyers sent him to the AHL for a game, but in the mean time the Flyers have gone undefeated (in regulation)in four games so as not to mess up the mo jo, Schenn has stayed out of the line up. Expect him back as soon as the Flyers go through any kind of slump.
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Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 am
@KC23, exactly right. I think Schenn made a mistake making his caphit so high for an ELC. Even DL had issues with bringing him in under the cap.
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Just wanted to thank the Insider’s who made it to my place for Saturday nights game. We had some food, drinks, and a WIN, can’t beat that! Hopefully we can do it again this season….and soon!!!
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puck73 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:14 am
@Shotongoal, Thanx for being such a great host, we had a great time and look forward to your next one.
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IceGuy Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:18 am
@Shotongoal,
We had a great time – and good hockey talk. Thanks for the hospitality.
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anybody getting a richards jersey yet? that guys dynamite
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KC23 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am
@Kings Fan In Temecula, I’m thinking they’ll be flying (if you’ll pardon the expression) off the shelves Tuesday night.
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Shotongoal Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:54 am
@Kings Fan In Temecula, will be wearing my new road Richards on Tue night!
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Niko Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:02 am
@Kings Fan In Temecula, FYI, 50% off jerseys this month at teamlastore dot com. Away jersey’s aren’t included unfortunately
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Why does everybody wanna trade everybody? We finally got our depth in order, and everybody wants to take the most talented guys and trade everyone else. I feel like I’m watching my nefew play his X-Box.
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KC23 Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am
@Dominick, Agreed. I can’t believe how many people are ready to throw Martinez under the buss after having a fantastic year last year on an unproven rookie.
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Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:38 am
@KC23, I’m shocked sometimes. Berneir’s playing well, TRADE QUICK. Voynov gets called up, TRADE MARTINEZ. Parse isn’t playing well, WAIVE HIM FOR LOKTI. Parise is playing lights out in New Jersey, TRADE FOR PENNER. TRADE WHISKEY. TRADE GEERNE. TRADE DD.
Madness.
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Dave Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:00 am
@Dominick, i do think DL should explore moving Martinez but only if he nets something of value. no need to trade anyone at this point unless it improves your team. trades are not easy to put together and more than likely if DL makes any trades it won’t be for another month or two.
but i prefer Voynov to Martinez but for the next 7-10 days we’ll get to see both.
DesertKing Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:00 am
@Dominick,
Trade Puck73 to the Rangers blog for YankeeOnIce. Trade KC23 to the Blues blog for OnlyInMIssouri. Trade CB14 to the BlueJackets blog for RiverOnFire. Trade Jet to the Jets blog for Jet Crash. Trade me to the Yotes blog for Desert Dog. Trade KingsFanOne to the Bruins blog for BruinFanOne.
Dominick Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:28 am
@DesertKing,
If this continues, I’m gonna demand that Hammond trade me to Edmonton for family reasons, and you guys can get Anthonyy in return. Ha ha ha!
BringBackKingston Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:01 am
@Dominick, the grass is always greener on the other side. Trading whoever right now makes no sense. Voynov hasn’t even played on game of regular season NHL hockey and before he establishes himself other d-men are expendable. You don’t trade just for the sake of trading – heck what would DL be able to get in return for Am or DD2? Draft pick? No need to rush; those can be acquired up to draft time. A player in return? Already have enough 3rd & 4th line players. Everybody knows the price for top line quality with the richards/Schenn trade. Not gonna happen with AM or DD2. even if voynov was the one traded who else goes with him in a trade for a 1st or 2nd liner winger? Penner? Ha.
Anyway back to voynov, I think TM will use him in a very selective role to start off. He’ll play in a couple of games and then go back down until the next injury. Let the situation play itself out.
Will make for an interesting trade deadline. What does DL do with his 2 most valuable chips – bernier & voynov?
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BringBackKingston Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:05 am
@Dom, BTW I agree with you. Just wanted to make that clear.
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Sebastian Reply:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 am
@Dominick, this is my feeling about the majority of the posts on this blog in the last couple months. unfortunately it seems like the hockey IQ of the comments is way down from last season. everyone wants to play coach and GM and make moves that make no sense like having unproven minor league prospects come up and replace more experienced NHL players. everyone is a Power play expert and Kompon and Terry Murray are the devil. even after wins im seeing lots of very negative ridiculous comments because the Kings only won by 1 and apparently they need to blow every opponent out…even on the road…in order to please some. its very unfortunate that now one has to sift through all the absurd comments just to find some that make sense. i suppose this is to be expected from a public forum.
i just wish there was some sort of an “ignore” button, where one could click next to a poster and never see any of their posts again.
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Wow guys, why trade anyone right now??? This is exactly what good teams go through every year. We have great depth and skill at Manchester. Anytime any gets nicked or even takes a moderate injury we can feel really good about the young player who comes up to step in.
Even if Voynov does great I wouldn’t trade Martinez. I’d let Voynov go back to Manchester to learn how to be a leader and to digest and integrate what he’ll learn from his 7-10 (hopefulluy) day stint in the NHL.
Besides even if you really want to makes trades we should wait until someone else has such a need that they have to overpay us. Off season trades make more sense for us anyway for almpost all they guys mentioned for trade here. Any young player will likely raise his value by playing a full year whether in the NHL or AHL. (Okay maybe not Parse, but he probably has little trade value anyways since he was hurt and now is in the doghouse)
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Some nice posts above in this thread.
I appreciate the posts that try to put some brakes to all the “grass is greener on the other side of the fence” posts suggesting trades, cuts, and more rookies on the big roster. Posts that mock these would-be GMs, for example by suggesting Lombardi send Kopitar and Quick to Manchester so as to put some more kids on the big roster, are great (sorry, I don’t recall which thread I saw that in, or who posted it, but you know who you are– well done). True, the Kings are maybe _too_ deep in good defensemen, and a trade or two could make sense at some point, but there’s no good reason Lombardi would be feeling any pressure to do anything exceptional at this point. These days, the kinds of personnel ‘problems’ the Kings have are generally the kinds of problems their fans, coaches, and managers would have _loved_ to have had throughout most of the past 15 years, in fact most of the franchise’s history!
And the trigger-happy junior GMs might ponder this: teams that win Stanley Cups don’t do so with rosters full of first-year hot shots, even if they’re indubitably all budding superstars-to-be.
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Trade Penner, Parse, DD2!
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Very excited to see what Slava can do!!!
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