The never-ending Mulletgate story took another turn this morning when it was revealed — first by TSN — that forward Colin Fraser, acquired by the Kings in the trade that sent Ryan Smyth to Edmonton, apparently has an injury that might cause him to miss the first two months of the season. The trade can’t/won’t be voided, and while Kings did not intend to buy out Fraser’s contract — which they would now be prohibited from doing anyway, if he’s not healthy — and the Kings certainly don’t lack for fourth-line forwards, today’s news just speaks to how ridiculous this whole situation is/was. The Oilers said Gilbert Brule was healthy. The Kings (and, apparently, the NHL) said he wasn’t. The Oilers traded a different player to the Kings, and now he turns up with an injury. There was already some bad blood between the Kings and Oilers, based on the way the Smyth/Brule situation dragged out, and now there’s this.
The most likely scenario here is that Fraser will start the season on injured reserve — if he’s hurt, he can’t be assigned to the AHL — and then either go to Manchester (and be exposed to the waiver process) or compete for a spot on the roster when he’s healthy.
STUPID
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pitty Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@DB6, Talk about lack of integrity from an organization. The league should not allow this type of situation to ever happen.
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kingsfaninSB Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@pitty, seriously, if hes gonna miss 2 months of the season, that means hes out till december which is 5-6 months from now. any injury warranting that much time off must be fairly serious, how could the oilers say “he’s healthy” and not know? i dont think it has hardly any effect on the off-season plans though. go DL go
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Scott Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
@kingsfaninSB, This trade is getting worse. Why couldn’t LA at least do Smyth for Ryan Jones and a 4th?
rogiesbackup Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
If there is a part in the contract agreement saying so and so is healthy and is NOT injured the kings should file a breech of contract.
Maybe Oilers getting back at us for Number 99 trade!!!!
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Mark Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
@rogiesbackup, only problem with that is that we’d have Ryan’s 6 mil back on our books again. Geez. Is it Lombardi’s responsibility to check or Oilers to disclose or Leagues to disclose before they ratify? Isn’t the NHL using computers yet?
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5thLine Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
@Mark
Don’t introduce logic. This is Bettman’s world.
USHA#17 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
@Mark,
I would say take Ryan back then send him to Siberia but that already happened. Too bad the Kansas City Scouts are gone.
2hitnik Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
@DB6, I recall a tweet stating that DL was willing to settle for a 7th round pick, but Edmonton insisted that LA take some salary back. I say we just send Fraser back!
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Misrepresentation?
I remember Burke had a problem with the Oilers as well…
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Scot Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:28 am
@Eric,
Remind me…
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Hockey G Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
@Scot, The Dustin Penner situation. It is an unwritten rule not to offer new RFA a contract. The Oilers offered Penner a large contract and the Ducks did not match it. Penner then went to the Oilers. Burke was very publicly upset and angry.
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WTF….Stay classy Edmonton.
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OILLY SCUMBAGS!!!
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No more deals with Edmonton please
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SVIK Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
@408kingsfan, greene and stoll from them though…
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Awesome, first Penner, now this. Thanks Edmonton.
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kb Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@Patrick, HAHAHAHA well said
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The Doctor for the Oilers name is Dr. Nick….”Hi everybody”.
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puddle Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:18 am
@Tookie, LOL. I almost spit out my spit laughing at this.
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TheRussianKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:19 am
@Tookie, lol. very funny. But this deal is a joke. DL has no intention of complaining to the league because Smyth is where he wants to be and we shed a decent amount of salary in the process. Edmonton and Tambo have left a really bad taste in the mouths of Kings fan and the organization. Come tomorrow I hope DL figures out that last piece or two that will take us over the top. I’m so ecstatic, I really think this may be the year we go all the way.
Go Kings Go
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Buster Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:21 am
@Tookie,
It’s more like Dr. Kevorkian.
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DumpnChase Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:27 am
@Tookie, Maybe he works with Dr. Spaceman
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MadMatt Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
@DumpnChase, Haha… “Spa-Cheh-Min” …great 30 Rock reference!
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Kinguy Josh Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
@MadMatt, Excellent!
HBFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
@Tookie, Susie, get me Dr Bison
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Shakes Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
@Tookie,
Hi Doctor Nick!
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At first, I initially wanted to give Edmonton (Tambellini) the benefit of the doubt that they made an “honest” mistake with handling Brule’s injury. Now, I really think they were lacking any integrity in this deal.
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Buster Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am
@syup99,
Everybody should know by now that Tambellini is Cal Worthington’s long lost son.
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Raunq12 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:40 am
@Buster, Hahahaha!
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Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:42 am
@Buster, comedy! HA! If that stupid toon is my head all day, I’m coming after you! LOL
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syup99 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:45 am
@Stuart,
Go see cal, go see cal, go see cal…hahaha!
Buster Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am
@Stuart,
Uh, you might want to avoid the Colin Fraser injured thread in LGK. Someone put a nice jingle in there.
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am
@Stuart, for ever i though he was saying pussy cow, pussy cow, pussy cow.
Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am
@BrokeKingsFan, you’re not alone brother!!! That was absolutely me growing up. And then when I understood the word and what it represented it made more classic and yet so much more bizarre to me that he would add that in his jingle as if that was his real name or something… I swear it wasnt until I was a late teen that it donned on my that he wasn’t saying it, but was actually saying go-see-cal… just wasn’t the same after that… LOL good times
16,005 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:41 am
@Stuart,
It’s better than “Pete Ellis Dodge, Long ….”
Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
@16,005, beach freeway, firsestone exit southgate (or bellflower?)…
another one of those marketing genius jingles that can loop for 4-5 days… argh!
pk Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
@Stuart,
Speaking of annoying jingles from years past… anyone else remember the Santa’s Village commercials? I think I just dated myself with that one…
syup99 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
@Stuart,
And the worst…err, best one of them all, “…south coast toyoootaa, south coast toyoootaa.”
mcsorleyfan Reply:
July 1st, 2011 at 2:23 am
@Stuart, 91 Freeway, Lakewood Exit, Bellflower
Nitrohockey Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:48 am
@Buster, His son, or his dog Spot?
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tornado12 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:08 am
@Nitrohockey, you mean that big ol tiger? how is a tiger a dog anyways?
Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am
@tornado12, or a monkey for that matter? PETA would not be happy with good o’ Cal.
Blackknight Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@Nitrohockey, and the dreaded Ketes, Keyes, Keyes, Keyes on Van Nuys!
Bootz Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:56 am
@Buster,
Cal worthington…. Best comment a year.. Uh, off season.
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Bootz Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:56 am
@Bootz
*all
Slapshot Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
@Buster, Steve Scambellini and his dog spot. If you need am injured player go see scam, if you need an injured player go see scam….
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jofa6000 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
@Buster, LMAO
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Jon G Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:31 am
@syup99, My feelings exactly.
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Steve W Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@Jon G, Yes Cerrritos!
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Another reason for DD to execute Hall with another hip check.
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Nick in 318 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:22 am
@Hutch, Hahaha ya was just about to say… ” if this means DD will be creaming Hall in every LA-Edm game from now on… Bring it on”
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Hmmm… in exchange for these injured players, maybe the Kings can check their players extra hard this season (if we play Edmonton).
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Greasy bastards… this whole process leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Penner comes in lame, and now this? Pretty sad. How is this not checked?
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Stay classy, Steve Tambellini… Jerk.
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Hammond I fixed your sentence for you: ….”today’s news just speaks to how ridiculous this Tambellini GM and Edmonton organization really are.”
Tambellini is a complete joke and no wonder why his team is dead last every year. Take cry baby Smyth with you! Punks!
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If there is enough pressure from the league, then the solution would be something along the lines of trading Fraser back to Edmonton for another draft pick (mid-round /4th or 5th?) and (maybe) a healthy player. By doing this, the Smyth “trade” would not have to be voided.
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mask0425x Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
@Purple Ghost, Very nice, I like your thinking!
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Shouldn’t any of these deals require full disclosure of player injuries, especially if the injury puts the player on IR? It should just be standard verbiage in all transaction paperwork sent to the league, that all players involved would pass a physical. If not, the deal is void, unless the receiving party agrees to accept the damaged goods.
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408kingsfan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:24 am
@Skebo, Yes full disclosure is mandatory
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how ridiculous. I have lost all respect for the oilers GM and organization. Who is going to want to trade with them now? I hope we sweep them this year! Why are all Oiler GM’s sheisty? first lowe, now tambellini?
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408kingsfan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
@tornado12, Hey Tornado lets make sure to meet up at a game agaist the Sharks this year. Are you going to Frozen Fury
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tornado12 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
@408kingsfan, i want to, but not sure about frozen fury…i would love to go the the ‘tank’ and cheer against the hated fish…lets do it!
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Apparently additional compensation might come to the Kings..
Any insight on this Rich Hammond???
I vote for Taylor Hall…
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Joe Ward Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:28 am
@VanKingsFan, Not enough. I want Hall, Gretzky, and McSorley! Oh wait…
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HBFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
@Joe Ward, and Krushelnyski. Without him who would’ve scored the double OT winner against the Flames
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Joe Ward Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
@HBFan, Good point. Very true!
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:10 am
@VanKingsFan, ill settle for Eberle or Paajarvi
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Sebastian Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
@VanKingsFan, im sure when they say “additional compensation” they are referring to a very very later draft pick.
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Short term benefit maybe, but long term damage for the Oilers. They’re only going to make teams less and less willing to do any deals with them. How can Tambellini not be aware of this?
Bad. Very bad.
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In related news, CNN discovered Tambellini was a used car salesman before joining the ranks of the oilers. Weird!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:34 am
@Brownkingsfan,
Now every time we go to make a trade, we need to say “Show me the PlayerFax”
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:36 am
@DesertKing, I heard someone say there should be a lemon-law in these kinds of trades. Penalties to say the least!
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puddle Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:36 am
@DesertKing, Ba-dum, ching!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am
@puddle,
Drum roll please
What’s Gary Bettman going to do about this crap?? Tambellini is like some back alley salesman selling damaged goods and needs to get reprimanded. This isn’t some garage sale??
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I hated the Oilers before this. Absolutly can’t stand them or their loser fans now.
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Before we go trashing Tambellini so much, it might just be that he has really Shi**y doctors on his staff and they truly thought he was healthy.
If thats the case then I feel sorry for the Oiler players.
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holly Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:06 am
@VanKingsFan, I don’t know many doctors that could miss an unhealed fracture and a cyst.
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MacSwede Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:30 am
@VanKingsFan, So you dont think that Fraser him self know if he is injured?? come on..
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nykingfan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:52 am
@VanKingsFan,
the old saying..
fool me once, shame on you.
He first denied Broulet’s injury and now Fraser?
Either he’s the NHL’s biggest fool, or just a snake oil salesman.
Sounds like a sleazeball to me.
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JWR Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
@VanKingsFan,
Well these are the same “doctors” that could not put Loktinov’s shoulder back into place in 2009
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A first round pick should come back for this out-and-out fraud.
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R-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s!
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Boy, did we get shafted on this one!
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I just realized… Steve Tambellini is Daniel Plainview from “There Will Be Blood.” Both take part in sketchy underhanded deals, both are “oilers”, both are complete a$$ hats. It fits!
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Let’s move on…
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scandalous…
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someone make a scumbag Oiler poster
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MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Methinks this whole thing was planned all along, by EDM…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:33 am
The only thing to make this fair is if Smyth turns out to have an undisclosed injury…
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:37 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
The one thing to make this better is to discover some email or letter indicating that it was all planned – “Hey Ryan, ask to come home, I will make it work out” “Hey DL, here are some young players who you can buy out and dump the salary. By the way,don’t worry about the vacant look in the one kid’s eyes or the walking cast on the other kid. They are hockey players and good to go, trust me”
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Ian Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:41 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, He clearly has a brain injury if he wanted to go back to Edmonton.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Oh, and Puck Daddy weighs in even more, suggesting COMPENSATION will be worked out between the teams:
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/you_know_how_the_kings_wouldnt_trade_smyth_to_edmonton_without_healthy_comp/
“According to Helene Elliott of the Los Angeles Times, the Oilers medical staff cleared Fraser but when he arrived in Los Angeles, the Kings staff found out that he was not. This kind of mistake reflects poorly upon Oilers GM Steve Tambellini because he attempted to send out one injured player and managed to not know he had a second one and sent him to L.A. anyhow. Kings GM Dean Lombardi has every reason to be angry about this but according to Elliott, the trade will not be rescinded and the teams will work out an alternate means of compensation.”
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
I see another late draft pick or a portion of Fraser’s salary. Maybe Taylor Hall (alternate universe).
Either Tambellini has no idea what’s going on in his organization, or he’s a lying dirtbag. I’m not one to encourage targeting players for the actions of a scumbag GM, but, I’m so pissed right now, that I’d probably encourage Brown, Clifford, Richards, and a few others to put some extra hard checks on Taylor Hall and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins this season…
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Ian Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:48 am
@Kostamojen, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins better hope he doesn’t crack the team next year. He looks like a strong wind would take him down. So I’m dying to see what Brownie can do to him.
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
@Kostamojen, why does it have to be “either / or”?
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Honetly, I blame Smyth for putting us in this bad poistion. Think about it?? If he just said, if you can get a good deal I’ll go to EDm. This way he can say to EdM, you want Smyth how about a 3rd round pick and a player. But Smyth talking to the press at the end some how, ruiened it for DL to make a good deal.
What really tick me off is him saying LA is not a place to raise my Kids… I guess all us people with family are not good people in LA?? Whatever… just glad hes off the books and his play last year shows his heart wasen’t in LA.
Penner deal, I still have hope and let just give Penner time to learn TM system, I think he will still get us 26 to 32 goals this year…
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VanKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:38 am
@Sammuch, Different people have different values.
Don’t judge a man for wanting his kids to grow up in a certain environment. He is not saying you can’t raise kids there, he is saying he wants his kids raised in a certain type of environment, which LA is not.
You don’t have to take offense to everything.
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Sammuch Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:52 am
@VanKingsFan,
Then dont waive your contract to come do LA if the enviroment is not their style. I am sure their are a lot of players in the NHL the they think the ENVERIEOMWNT as you say, is not good for thier family too.. But they play hockey for whatever team or terms they play for!!
As a fan of the Kings this blog is about how we feel and just saying what is on our minds, so no offense to you, its just what I feel about Smyth. What he said about our city and is a great place to raise a family, is my feeling about how lame Smyth is for putting us in this situation.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
@VanKingsFan, alright……. Im gonna try and shed some light on the situation here. If these guys were living in downtown LA i would whole hearted agree and couldnt question that decision to be in a different enviornment. But they dont live in downtown LA. Most of these guys live in Manhattan, Hermosa, or Redondo Beach! have you been to either of these three cities? There are people all over the world who try to live in these cities and for good reason (beautiful beach cities, good school systems, little to no crime, great locatios Etc.) IMO Ryan Smyth was just home sick (happens being from another counrty) and couldnt suck it up for one more year (whick IMO makes him a crybaby,but doesnt take away from him being a great player) and had to use his kids and the enviornment as a excuse. His kids and there education or lifestyle would not have been jeopardized for one more year. I personally do not agree nor except the enviornment as an excuse period! Sometime you should come visit and i will more than happy and willing to personally show you around the beach cities and you can make the call yourself. YOu will LOVE IT, GARAUNTEED!
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Sammuch Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
@BrokeKingsFan,
HERE HERE!!!!!!
mcsorleyfan Reply:
July 1st, 2011 at 2:32 am
@BrokeKingsFan, Agreed! When you make 6 million a year you’re not putting your kids in public schools if you’re smart! Hell, he could have shipped the kids home for education if he so desired.
Mike in Oregon Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:42 am
@Sammuch, Although he did totally suck and was a real slug coming to Kings, Penner is totally underestimated in my view. He is in a contract year and unless he wants to retire at a young age, HAS to have a good year. He’s huge power forward proven to be able to score. I think he is a great player next season. Hope I’m right. Go Kings.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am
@Sammuch, Smyth did ultimately put us in this situation.
Classless person (not to be confused with a good hockey player/mentor) to a classless organization.
No wonder he wanted back in Edmonton.
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VanKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:39 am
@KingsFanInPortland, Classless person? That’s just flat out wrong. I can’t believe how mad people are at Smyth for this
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
@VanKingsFan, would churlish be a better word for you?
Who cares, this will be forgotten by the weekend when the Kings sign some players, get Doughty wrapped up and so on…..You folks are bored and antsy!!! LOL
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Let’s wait for the first time we play them, just take it out on there sissy players, Hall, etc….
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I think they should give us Hemsky for this mess….
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:18 am
@dahack11,
He’s probably hurt too. Can’t imagine what kind of trainiers they have working in Edmonton.
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Buster Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:50 am
@DesertKing,
I believe their first names are Larry, Moe and Curley.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
@Buster,
Nice – I thought they were named Manny, Moe and Jack.
Mark Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
@Buster, It was Shemp. Heebebebebe
HBFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
@DesertKing, Trainers that don’t believe in Cardio if you look at the shape Penner was in when he got here
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It is obvious Tambellini did not act in good faith in trying to dump unhealthy salary on Lombardi. Can the league impose sanctions against Tambellini and the oilers for blatant fraudelent activities like this? If not, I hope DL takes a page from the Chara / Montreal police saga and files a suit for Fraudulent Misrepresentation with the Edmonton police and ties the Oilers budget in court for the next ten years.
Ryan Smyth, you’ve been a class act your entire career. That’s why the Kings bent over backwards to acommodate your request. Are you sure you want to work for this scumbucket GM? If you do, you show your true colors are being no better than him. Eff it, include Ryam Smyth in the lawsuit.
And HELL YEAH!!!…Extra hard hits for everyone whenever we play Edmonton. Mr. Hall…wear armor this season.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:51 am
@Gustavo, Poor Taylor Hall had nothing to do with this trade. Why is everyone slamming him? Get real guys… Let’s take the SC and make Smyth sad he missed out. No better revenge than success. I doubt Fraser was going to see any quality ice time on the Kings anyway. It’s not like anyone went out and bought a Fraser jersey!
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Kingsrule Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:09 am
@Brownkingsfan, No but I did buy a Bordson jersey. Hmn, now where can I sell this thing?
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David V Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
@Kingsrule, You might reconsider, that Bordson jerse is priceless !
poe Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:00 am
@Gustavo, Isn’t dealing in bad faith and misrepresentation in a contractual situation a reason for making the contract voidable? Or in the alternative, subject the party makung the misreps subject to sanctions? Let’s see if Bettman does something to Tambellini who obviously has sunk to the lowest of the low in trades. Oilers fans are you proud of your GM???
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Oscar Moller's Beard Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:34 am
@poe, Well, they’re probably a little proud that they’re GM got them Smyth for an injured player and almost a useless pick. Remember, they’re Oiler fans, they are proud of these type of things.
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i really hate to say this because i have no hatred for the guy, but i think a way to even this out is a nice clean injuring check to smyth from doughty…
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Tell Smyth to send is hair back, then we are even.
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Is there any chance of gaining a higher round draft due to EDM’s potetnial bad faith or incompetence in representing their players as healthy? Will the league look into this at all or are we just stuck with the deal as is? Thanks
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The league needs to take some action on this (remembers other issues brought forth to Toronto) … okay, so I’m not holding my breath.
I might be rooting for Westgarth in the line up Vs the Oilers this year. Richards, you have your first marching orders we’ll let you guess what it is.
This really p1sses me off. I’m getting a 10 game pack and you can bet the Oilers are now on my list.
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puck73 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:06 am
@KC23, I hope Bettman slaps this punk, and his organization the same way he did when he popped the Devils for what they pulled with Kovalspank !
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Mark Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
@KC23, Finally, a reason to have Westgarth in the linup.
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First the Kings pick the son in that horrible 2003 draft, that set us back 5 years. Except for Brown, everybody else picked by the Kings was horrible. Oddly enough it seems that Lombardi is trying to rectify that drafts mistakes, by most of his acquisitions as Kings GM are guys picked in that draft. I say lets get Parise next. Anyway after the failure of the son, it leads to what has transpired with the Father. How about not dealing with any more Tambellini’s ever again. It never leads to anything good.
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puck73 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:04 am
@Jeff, I like Parise the most of any player we could get on the left side. That being said, a couple of things have to happen..#1 The Kings would have to give up Bernier and one of our core players, and probably a prospect, and #2 Parise and his agent would have to agree to a long term deal with the Kings because thier is no way Lombardi is going to give up players like that for a possible 1 year rental player.
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Niidan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:14 am
@puck73, Better to go after Gagne than give away Berns or another talented player….Parise will be a free agent soone enough…
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:17 am
@puck73,
Completely agree.
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Jeff Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am
@puck73, I agree but I do believe that the Kings (DL) and Parise (his agent) will come to an agreement on a new deal. We have everything Parise would want, money, a team that is ready to win with a young core that can be together for years, stable ownership. There s no doubt n my mnd that we are a place Parse would want to come too. Not to mention he is good friends with Brownie and JJ, U.S. Olympic stars.
Now for what we will have to give up that is interesting. One thing they need is goaltending and Parise is really the only player I would give up Bernier for, at this time. Wth what we have for goaltending in the minors/juniors and Quick establishing himself as a #1 established goalie, we can stand to lose Bernier, especially for someone as awesome as Parise.
Looking at the Devils cap wise, if they were to pay Parise what he is worth they wouldn’t have much left to spend on all there other needs, which are goalie, PMD and forward. So getting an established forward/core player may cost to much. I say a trade of something like this……
Bernier
Stoll
Hickey/Voynov
Possible draft pick
I put n Stoll because with the addition of Richards, Stoll is expendable with Loktionov taking his place as third line center. I put in Hickey/Voynov because are they really going to make the team now? We got Jack for 7 years and Drew for who knows how long and then there is Alec Martinez who really shined last season. Where are Hickey or Voynov going to play, unless NJ would rather have Alec. We can also throw in a draft pick too. I mean would we really need another #1 draft pick next year with who we have on the roster, with Parise and the bevy of youngsters ready to take flight.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am
@Jeff,
Completely agree with this too! Parise would be a great fit chemistry wise on top of the fact that he is known for his two-way play.
Jeff Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am
@Jeff, Oh I forgot, with the addition of Parise we would be on most peoples lists to win the Cup. We be picking 30th anyway.
Don’t all jump on Edmonton. We need to place some blame on Smyth and the Kings. I’m sick of hearing how Smyth is a class act. blah blah blah. The Oilers did what every team would do. Get something for nothing. Ryan Smyth demanded a trade to Edmonton. Yeah, Tambellini probably is a scum bag. But he won that deal. I always remember what Bill Parcels said “A good deal for me and is a bad deal for you”.
And also, we didn’t HAVE to trade for Penner. The Kings wanted him. Why would you deal with a franchise like Edmonton for a guy like Dustin Penner???
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John Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:03 am
@PK,
“Every team” would unload 2 injured players in the same deal???
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PK Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:11 am
@John, Yes. I believe so with the circumstances that played out.
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Buster Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:13 am
@John,
Souray would make three.
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fsd1 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am
@PK, Because Penner is and will be a good player for us.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:17 am
@PK, because Penner IS a good player regardless of the last bit of last season and we needed his services then and this upcoming season. Penner will do just fine for us
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HBFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
@PK, Parcell had honor and integrity. Tambellini is a liar and a cheat. There is a difference between honestly negotiating a deal where you come out ahead of the other party and lying and misrepresenting what you are giving in exchange. In the real world it’s called fraud and is punishable as a crime in the laws of both Canada and the US. If he was unaware that Fraser was injured then he is a moron. The only thing left to decide is whether he is a liar and cheat or a moron. You decide.
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PK Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@HBFan, I’ll go with Moron?
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Hey Tambellini……….you’re a jerk. You or your team will get what coming to you, believe it.
Jerk.
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Choralone Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am
@Kingsfanone, So are you going to lace up your skates and personally take it to the Edmonton players next year or something?
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PK Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:12 am
@Choralone, This is a blog bra. Get over it. Everybody has an opinion.
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Choralone Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
@PK, I don’t mind that he has an opinion, or that he called Tambellini a jerk. (I think Tambellini’s a jerk, too.) I just think it’s funny a bunch of people here were threatening to get even in one way or another – that “we” were going to go after Hall, and that sort of thing. Maybe Kingsfanoe didn’t mean that and was just talking about Karm. If so, I misunderstaood. That said, I don’t see how the Oilers players are at fault and “will get what’s coming” to them if it’s Karma we’re talking about…
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:19 am
@Choralone, why the attack on the fellow blogger? i feel the same way as Kingsfanone. Karma is a beautiful thing!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am
@Choralone,
It’s called Bachi in Japanese, or karma. It never fails.
Tambellini just bought his team more sucking. In the end, his job. It’s how karma works.
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I doubt if Fraser was gonna make it on the team anyway, although he was going to be given a chance. This injury thing doesn’t really hurt us, it’s all just about the deception and (treachery?) of Tambellini. You can’t tell me he didn’t know Fraser was hurt. Like someone else said here, Tambellini is just hurting his own cause, when he wants to do business with another team, the alarm bells will go off.
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Tookie Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:23 am
@Goring 19, It’s a wasted contract we’re forced to carry as well. We’ve got a lot of young guys who need those.
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Seems like the boys in Edmonton need a lesson in morals… Bad business practices yet again by the front office in Oilerville…
lets just suck it up and move forward and bid the guy with the 30lb stick good bye…
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HBFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
@Niidan, So I guess they don’t teach morals in those wonderful Edmonton schools?
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Doesn’t the NHL follow suit with the NBA, MLB, and NFL inasmuch when a trade is agreed upon, the players to pass a physical with respective team doctors for it to be consummated?
Or was this injury just found during a physical by the Kings’ doctors? If so, aren’t these phsyicals done immediately following?
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puddle Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:35 am
@lazyone213, I had the same question. Trades in the NBA always take place with the phrase “pending physical.” Why wouldn’t the NHL have the same kind of setup? Or at least some kind of built in punishment from the league if you dealt an injured player.
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Oh, BTW, from the moment Ryan Smyth wanted to be traded back TO Edmonton for family reasons, Tambellini had the upper hand on us, Deano was put in a bad position, everyone knows it.
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puck73 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:12 am
@Goring 19, No question about it. Never seen Dean so stressed before.
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Guess we missed the “all sales are final, no returns/exchanges” clause! What a bunch of…….
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Shouldn’t a player who withholds an injury during a trade be held accountable in some way in this situation? Seems very simple on the surface that the person who directly knew should bare the bulk of the responsibility.
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Scot Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:17 am
@wavesinair,
I thought the same thing, why didn’t Fraser say something to the Kings right away? I mean, they were going to find out eventually, like, maybe, when he’s unable to play when training camp starts.
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BobKnob Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
@Scot,
It’s possible he was going to try to play through it and see how it went. I wouldn’t put that past a hockey player trying to stick in the NHL.
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Tookie Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am
@wavesinair, maybe he just wanted to get out of that frozen wasteland as quick as his broken body will carry him.
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wavesinair Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:26 am
@Tookie, Fraser thought process…”Do I rehab in Edmonton where I can sit next to a tree and talk to the deer?” or “Do I rehab in Manhattan beach where I can layout on the sand and talk to beautiful women?”
Now I don’t blame him…
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miracle.on.manchester Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
@wavesinair, funny yet logical.
Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:27 am
@wavesinair, The responsibility falls on the club that trades him as the player is property of that club. If the club that traded him modified paperwork or misled the other club, I believe they can be fined along with other punishments.
The idea of extra compensation coming to the Kings is probably going to be the solution here and with the trouble they had the first time (With Brule), the league just might hit Edmonton hard. I hope they do.
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wavesinair Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am
@Cynic, Sure. But that assumes Edmonton knew he was injured. If they didn’t know, then they shouldn’t be responsible.
Also…where the hell was the physical during this process? isn’t that supposed to prove a players’ health without a doubt?
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:49 am
@wavesinair, Well, then that is between Edmonton and Fraser, to which Edmonton is on the hook for because he was their property. Dean talked about the checkups these players get in some interview and it’s pretty frequent I believe. Maybe it needs to be more frequent in Edmonton.
I’ll bet Edmonton could attempt to sue Fraser for breach of contract, but the first thing that will get thrown in Edmonton’s face is “How often do you do physicals on your players?”. If it’s below league standard or they find some fudged documents, this could get REAL ugly.
wavesinair Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
If I understand the process correctly, the Kings doctors would do the physical on their end so as to be covered.
Hackwoods Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
@wavesinair, It is pretty clear to me from the original blog by Rich that the Kings could have voided this deal, but declined to do so, so physicals do happen in all NHL trades and signings and all are contingent upon the playere passing said physical. Since the Kings will not void the deal, I am sure the league will just slap Tamb on the wrist and call it a day, and if Tamb wants to regain some credibility, he would throw another fair draft pick our way.
Scot Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am
@Cynic,
Extra compensation, really? That would be cool.
I don’t see the Kings getting any 1st or 2nd Round Draft Picks out of this, but something else would be nice. We are already on the short end of the trade, from a hockey standpoint!
Maybe the league would give us Taylor Hall. He’d fill the LW void just fine!
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And there goes Jussi Jokinen. Damn.
http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=567837
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Matthew Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am
@dailymehow, Dammit… definitely bad news. Michael Ryder hasn’t received much attention on this board yet eh? I know we’re in bigger need on the left side, but he’d be another great addition. Hope the David Booth rumors come true though.
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Scot Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:37 am
@Matthew,
Booth for Hickey, Moller, and a pick or two?
I would.
I’d try and sign Gagne first. If that didn’t work, I would try and acquire Ryan Malone. If that didn’t work, David Booth is a solid option.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am
@dailymehow,
he was one i was one of the UFA i was hopeing for
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:23 am
@BrokeKingsFan, whoa! not sure what happened there.”he was one of the UFA i was hopeing for” there….sounds better
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Dave Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:24 am
@dailymehow, i’m thinking more and more that DL will need to go the trade route if he’s going to add to the roster. the supply of quality top-6 wingers is so small and the demand is so high.
this is why DL has been stock-piling talent the last few years.
and btw, this also means RFAs are going to get more money. i hope Rich is busy getting the numbers on Doughty’s extension as it won’t take 5 minutes after midnight before someone throws an offer sheet.
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Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:45 am
@dailymehow, bad news. I was really hoping he’d find a way to LA…
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Edmonton certainly appears to have acted in bad faith during this entire negotiation considering the first deal fell through because the player was injured even though Edmonton denied it.
Of course, we don’t know the details. Perhaps Lombardi was willing to take the injured player since it didn’t appear that he was headed for an [immediate] buyout. The good news is that the cap hit on this player is so minimal as to rally not have much impact on further acquisitions.
The bottom line is the Kings lost a top-six forward; does it really matter how this player is no longer part of the organization? Whether from retirement, or career-ending injury, etc. ? The Kings were able to clear a good chunk of cap space.
Also, it speaks volumes about the state of Edmonton’s team that, though bursting with young talent, they do not have any worthwhile assets in the Kings eyes. I stated not too long ago that this team with all its talent will never be a contender under Tambellini’s management. let that be just rewards.
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wavesinair Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:23 am
@dMan, “Perhaps Lombardi was willing to take the injured player since it didn’t appear that he was headed for an [immediate] buyout.”
Exactly. And while we have no idea if this is true, we also don’t know the whole story. If DL was duped, then I’m sure there will be a consequence at some point. Or maybe this is still a consequence for us getting Gretz? LOL.
Edmonton will suck and we get to see it all year, so that will count towards something.
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Why do I think DL will lose Tambellini’s phone number after this? There are 28 other teams for DL to deal with.
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Totally unethical and unprofessional is how I’d describe this.
There are people like this in every field and area in life. Too bad we had no choice but to deal with Tambellini.
Maybe sour grapes for trading away his son years back.
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YEAH?…well we gave them and old and slow player who (and I don’t wish this to ANYONE because of Karma) will most likely NOT play 82 games next season.
I predict this: He leaves the game one day due to an apparent “Upper body injury”, then 2 weeks later announces his retirement…So there!….EYE FOR AN EYE….(and worst of all they get stuck with the 6.5 mil dump).
We got a Fiero, they got a NOVA
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:34 am
@RQ@315,
After RS announces his retiremenr, EDM announces that their new assistant coach is Ryan Smyth.
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Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:47 am
@RQ@315, either way, both of those models are no longer in production.
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Buster Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@RQ@315,
It’s more like they got a 72 Pinto with spinners.
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RQ@315 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
HeHe!…..I just put my Ryan Smyth bobblehead on injured reserve with an “upper body injury”
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Jussi jokinen re ups 3 years for 9 million with canes
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puddle Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:38 am
@KH, ARGH! That’s a damn steal.
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PK Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
@puddle, yes it is. wow. Fins are very loyal people.
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STUPID TRADE ALL AROUND NOW EVEN MORE STUPID…..
NO ONE IS SICK IN SMYTHS FAMILY SO HE SHOULD HAVE STAYED…..
PENNER IS A JOKE AS OF NOW UNLESS HE BOUGHT A P 90 X…
FRASER WHO CARES ABOUT HIM…..
WE ARE DONE TRADING WITH THE OIL CAN….
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wavesinair Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:27 am
or…
stupid trade all around now even more stupid…..
no one is sick in smyths family so he should have stayed…..
penner is a joke as of now unless he bought a p 90 x…
fraser who cares about him…..
we are done trading with the oil can….
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dailymehow Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am
@wavesinair,
Needs more yelling.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:34 am
@dailymehow,
LOL
Mark Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
@dailymehow, hahahahah
Mark Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
@dailymehow, OMG, hahahaha
BobKnob Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
@wavesinair,
Thanks for the translation. My eyes just glossed over looking at that blob of all caps spewing.
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Take back Fraser and give us another draft pick!
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Bean32 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Or file a complaint with the NHL, they’ll void the deal and re-trade Smyth to Calgary. EVIL HAHAHAHAHA!
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Gmo Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
@Bean32, DL can’t just trade him to cowtown, SMYTHE would have to approve of the trade and I highly doubt he would
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Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:48 am
@Bean32, if when he heals and is sent to Man, I hope someone plays Howard Cossel “down goes Fraser, down goes Fraser!!!”
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wow so we got screwed again
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Lemon after lemon. Wheres the carfax?
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wavesinair Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:38 am
@Mikey,
Ha! And an idea was born… playerfax.com
LOL.
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@wavesinair, I got the PlayerFax for Juraj Mikus. It was blank. I complained. The PlayerFax office said the world didn’t have enough paper or bandwith to list all the awesomeness that is Juraj Mikus.
Reasonable. I got a refund.
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Dominick Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am
@Cynic,
They do have a list. For publishing rights, they changed the name Juraj Mikus, to God. It’s called the Bible, and it’s been translated in every language. The King James version is the most popular. LOL
Joe Dirt Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
@Cynic,
I once asked for the Juraj Mikus playerfax. The list was too much for my mortal eyes. I am now typing this reply in braille…..
People need to relax a bit here.
First, there are two SEPARATE things here:
1- Smyth wanting to be traded to Edmonton
2- The actual trade itself.
Anyone blaming Smyth for this mess is ridiculous. Smyth just wanted to go to Edmonton. He has nothing to do with the actual trade process except to waive his NTC. Yes, it’s unfortunate his request snowballed into ‘Mulletgate’, but he’s not the cause for it. I will say however that Smyth should do 2 things here (Just my opinion of course):
1- Call up Dean and apologize profusely for putting him and his staff through this mess after accomodating him so nicely. (Move up that vacation he should buy DL & his family from 1 week to 3)
2- Call Tambellini and his staff and let them know this was unacceptable and they need to make it right. It may not sit well with them, but it would be the classy thing to do.
As far as the trade goes, DL is doing the right thing here. I’m sure he’s pissed to high heck, but laying low and letting the NHL handle it is the best thing he could do. I’m sure his lawyers are handling that part and he should just let them earn their 33%. Tambellini has basically shot his career in the groin with this stuff. NO OTHER GM IN THIS LEAGUE will want to deal with him unless they have to after all of this mess. You might just see Tamby lose his job over this sooner than later. If I’m an owner and my GM has pissed off all the other GMs, I’m not going to feel comfortable letting this guy run my team when he has no respect in the league to get deals done that benefit us. Let’s face it, a good example is how DL and Homer hooked up for Richards. I’m sure Homer put the feelers out there, but I’m also sure DL got a little bonus consideration because of their mutual respect and trust for each other when deals happen.
Tambellini has just basically lost all credibility as a GM. I believe his days will be numbered from this point forward.
So don’t get too upset, it’ll come around for Edmonton if they deserve it. It always does. They are hurting themselves more than us.
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kozak Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:52 am
@Cynic, this post is gold
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nykingfan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:54 am
@Cynic,
Right on man!
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John Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
@Cynic,
So we can’t blame Smyth for wanting to go to Edmonton?
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
@John, You can do whatever you like, but my opinion (Which is only important to me, so no worries) is if Smyth wants to take his family to Canada, for WHATEVER reason, he can TRY to do so. If it works out for him, great. If not, do the right thing.
It worked out FOR HIM. DL made a decision to accomodate him (The right one I believe).
Besides John, do you really want a player on the roster who:
1- Doesn’t want to be here…
and
2- Could/Would be distracted either being away from his family or worrying about them not being happy while trying to play hockey on a professional level
I say ‘Thanks Smytty for 2 decent years and all your help with the kids. Good luck to you and your family.’
Now let’s get Drew Doughty to quit stalling and move on. FA DAY IS TOMORROW!!!!
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Goring 19 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@Cynic, good post all the way around
John Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@Cynic,
It’s not that I don’t agree with you – it’s just a little disconcerting that one day we became a potentially great team (getting Richards) and then the next we took a step back (losing Smyth).
I just wish he could’ve been a little more professional – it’s ONE season, just play out your contract! And then he could’ve signed with Edmonton to finish out his career if he wanted. It ended up causing a big hassel for the LA Kings & creating a hole that we may not be able to fill.
I do also agree with you that we are a much better team for having him & I thank him for that!!!
Dominick Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
@Cynic,
The only issue that I differ with you on, is that Smyth not only should have waived his NTC (to make it work), but he should have allowed DL more options. Asking for the trade was fair (and he earned that right, even if he did force the issue), but then limiting it to 1 team just left the door open to get hosed by an Oiler GM, who then was given all the cards to make the trade anyway he saw fit (which ultimately was dishonorable, and decieving). This GM not only tried once, but twice to dump off an injured player that he deemed healthy. DL made the best of it, and in good faith agreed to it, but Smyths actions had everything to do with why we got hosed.
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
@Dominick, See, this is where everybody (I believe) gets confused…
Nobody FORCED anybody to to anything.
I GUAR-UN-TEEEEE if DL was put in a bad position with posturing by Smyth, he would have told him to ‘Eat It’ and play out his contract. There’s pretty much a cardinal rule in being a GM and that is ‘Never let a player control your moves’. DL’s a nice guy with a soft spot for players, but I’d bet $$$ he’d never put himself in a position to let a player control his movements.
I’m sure Smyth asked and said he would LIKE to go to Edmonton if DL can make it happen. In one of Smyth’s interviews with the Edmonton press, he mentions how Calgary was in the mix and that it would have been very difficult for him to go there, being an Oilers guy and all. I never heard him saw he would not go there. It’s actually closer to Banff than Edmonton.
I’m sure DL said he’d try (One he came to terms with the idea) and then told Smyth if Calgary stepped up, he needs to waive his NTC or no deal.
Smyth doesn’t ‘Puppet String’ Tambellini, so I’m not quite sure how you can blame him for Tamby’s actions. If I was Smyth, I’d worry about my GM being a lying, badguy though. Can’t be very comforting.
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Dominick Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@Cynic,
Not sure what to think on the Smyth “Puppeteering” front. You make some solid points, and I’ll have to think on it a little more. Smyth definately didn’t make the deal, so I can’t blame him for that (that was all Tambellidiot), but I do try to look at who is ultimately the cause of this whole mess happening in the first place.
I’ll try to keep an open mind, and think about it some more (as it pertains to Smyth’s involvement).
“The trade can’t/won’t be voided…”
RICH – I am curious as to why the trade can’t be voided? Is it becuase health wasn’t a condition of the trade? Or some other reason.
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lets just destroy all of western canada and be done with it
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</333 ESPN NHL – Hurricanes re-sign LW Jussi Jokinen (19 goals, 52 pts) to 3-year deal reportedly worth $9 million
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Does this mean we get Rob Bordson back?
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dMan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
@PK, forget it, man, as valuable as Bordson was to this franchise, that ship has sailed.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
@PK,
Please don’t get our hopes up.
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puddle Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
@PK, Please GOD let this happen. If there’s only one thing you grant me this year, let it be this.
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
@PK, If he is in your heart, he never left…
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@PK,
If you love it, set it free, if it comes back it is yours to keep. If it doesn’t come back, it must have been an injured Oiler used in a trade.
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vplaza Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
@PK,
In the name of all that’s good, please bring him back! His impact on the team while he was here was……indecribable.
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Ppl need to calm down and relax. Deal is done and we got much needed cap relief and got rid of a slow player with a huge salary that didn’t want to be here and obviously was going to be a distraction. Just hope DL learns his lesson to never ever deal with Tambillini. Who cares if Fraser is hurt, he wasn’t going to make the team anyways. Let’s move on let’s not sour our lives with this.
Go Kings Go
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Dave's a Killer Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@Gmo, A nice, succinct solution to all the issues. I’ll echo it….”Let’s move on let’s not sour our lives with this.”
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move on. is doughty signed yet?? lombardi is a dweeb. if doughty goes to rfa at lunch tomorrow, its pathetic. trade jj for filppula. look into the market for bernier,emery would be a very good,cheap back-up. do your homework lombardi. lombardi sys he spoke with the flyers a month ago. did lombardi suggest bernier/quick and holding on to schenn? why not? why doesnt la reporters ask questions and probe a little. how hard was it to determine that we have major assets at goalie,and the flyers were furiously searching for a goalie, did we do our homework and search “fits” for our most stocked position? i dont have a problem with this trade, richards is a good offensive player,and a warrior,but we seemed to give up an awful lot and no one has questioned lombardi about alternative options, without schenn be included. get doughty done, now. get a scoring winger and a fast winger.get it done this week. jj can be adequately replaced by voynov/hickey.voynov has big upside. Sign doughty now. If you have to go $7 mill, go $7 mill!!
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CB14 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
@jim g, I wish life was as easy as you make being a GM out to be. I would like to be a billionaire and married to Megan Fox, gosh that was easy.
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fsd1 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
@jim g, wow, I am so sure no one on the Kings does any research before they make deals, I think they put names in a hat, spin DL around 13 times and he picks something out of the hat….you should really follow those 2 words you started with…..move on
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PW Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
@jim g, Blah blah blah. DL is one of the best GA in the league. He is smart and knows what he is doing. I think I speak for everyone that we are glad he didn’t mortgage our team last season by signing Kolvachuk. And JJ will not be adequately replaced by anyone in Manchester. He had 47 pts last season and how many SO goals.
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puddle Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
@jim g, Totally man, you’ve definitely got a way better grasp than that idiot Lombardi of what needs to happen. I mean, what a bum! He doesn’t even do his homework! Didn’t he know the Flyers wanted a goalie? Plus, everyone knows every GM in the league can snap his fingers and get a fast, scoring winger if he really wants to! And why doesn’t he just give Doughty whatever he wants, even if it’s $10 million a year forever? Did he not think of that? And who cares if we’re trying to contend? Just bring up an unproven rookie to replace JJ! Totally genius.
Man, you should totally go apply for his job, Jim G! In the interview, bring up all these really good ideas. I’m sure you’ll get it.
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Tambelini is not the villain here, Lombardi and company needed to look into the health of any player they think about trading for or signing. the culprit from a Kings’ fan point of view is Ryan Smyth, who put the team in a position where he had to be dealt, and the options for getting something for him, were limited. On the other hand, a team that drafted #1 2 years in a row, shouldn’t be trying to fob off it’s injured players on another team, no matter how big a barrel, they are over.
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
@Steven H Brown, I think that’s true in most cases, but in this case, DL was in a spot. He knows he’s not going to get much due to the restrictions placed on him. GMs have a ‘Code’ of sorts between each other to help each other out with stuff like this. Dean needed to get Smyth off the books before July 1st so he could have cap space for FA Day. I’m sure DL just trusted Tamby within the ‘Code’ about his health and got the deal done and got screwed because of it.
With other deals that aren’t so restrictive with circumstances and time, I think you’re right. This deal was just a mess to begin with.
Tambellini is a villan here IMHO. Looks like he took advantage of ‘The Code’ to get more for less. A big No-No in those circles. He’ll most likely pay with his job if it’s true.
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The Edmonton Scammers
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This is quite ironic… But, topical.
A picture:
http://wvs.topleftpixel.com/photos/2011/06/he-would-be-king_chair_bins_painting_ontario_01.jpg
Ha!
Heart, anyone?
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, Oscar Moller posing for almost nude paintings is NOT my topic of choice Bako….
EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
@Cynic,
Actually, I had Captain Canada in mind…
Oh, well.
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, There’s no mullet in that painting! The body type is all wrong, the posture, the lig…….wait a minute….
Did you just say “I had Captain Canada in Mind”????
EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
@Cynic,
Get that fine-tuned mind of yours out of the GUTTER…
;-/
It probably can’t be voided because it’s up to the Kings to complete their due diligence. Just like in most trades they say pending physical. (I could be wrong) Anyways, the chance of this guy making the team would be low since Parse is healthy and we’re probably not done with FA pickups. This better be solved by tomorrow though so we can sign Ward and Jokinen.
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Not Eric Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
@PW, I’m guessing the fact that he failed a physical after the trade is exactly the reason why the trade COULD be voided. Unfortunately for the Kings, having Ryan Smyth off the books before July 1 is more valuable than trying to renegotiate a deal with the Oilers (who will hold even more leverage the longer this goes into the free agency period).
The major concern with Fraser is less that he is injured and can’t attend training camp, but rather that he can’t potentially be bought out which reduces both actual money spent on him and takes a contract off the books (each team can only have a limited number of NHL contracts at any time.)
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lazyone213 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
@PW, Jokinen was resigned
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WOW. We should have learned from the Penner deal…Tambellini is integrity-challenged. We traded a proven veteran for a broken forth liner. I would have made Smyth suffer in LA for 12 more months.
Quite frankly, we got screwed by the Oilers……….let’s have a LONG MEMORY on this one.
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PW Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
@SouthbayFan, Maybe but I’d rather have the cap room for a younger guy. Ryno was great the couple years he was hear and he’ll be missed but the time is now.
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I’ve been saying it from day one… we are signing Gagne. Watch. If I’m wrong, I will say someone hacked my account.
But… we will sign Gagne.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
@KingsFanInPortland,
Just dont, well, you know, send anyone any pictures, ok?
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
@DesertKing, only to you baby
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
@KingsFanInPortland,
And don’t run for congress either!!
LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
@KingsFanInPortland, Too many injuries, but that hasn’t stopped the Kings before.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, I agree. I’m not necessarily saying it’s what I want, just what the organization’s mo is.
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Off topic but i wanted to share:
So i got a call yesturday from a Phone# with a 213 area code. I didnt recognize the # so i didnt answer and sure enough i get a voicemail. I call my viocemail and its a guy who says ” hello_____ this is Scott from the Los Angles Kings and i would like to thank you for signing up for the signed Mike Richards Jersey contest”. Ammediatly im like “YES!!!!!! I WON A SIGNED MIKE RICHARDS JERSEY” he then proceeded to say ” and i was calling to go over the ticket options you selected
. what a bummer!!! i went from uephoria to feeling like a peon in seconds considering i more than likely cant afford any options you have and only chose them to hopefully win a Mike Richards jersey. oh well……..maybe next time!
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Michael Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, haha that same thing happened to me. I was all stoked only to find out that I didn’t win it
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Is this evil Oiler malarkey revenge from the 88′ Gretzky trade?
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Steve W Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
@Bean32, it’s because the Kings traded Tambo’s son(to the Isles, I believe).
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Wow, I know hindsight is 20/20, but there have been a few mistakes by DL and his staff during his/their tenure with the Kings organization. IMO these mistakes have not only cost the club money, but the most damaging factor of these errors is that it cost the Kings organization is time and development. Nagy, Alyn McCauley, Gauthier, O’Sullivan, Cloutier, Tverdovsky, Willsie I could continue the list is huge, but most recently the moves made at the dead line and this off-season have shaken my faith in the Kings currant management.
Mike Richards is bringing a reputation of being an alcoholic, pill-popping, chain smoking, out of shape 26 old and many of the fans are actually glad to see him go, and feel we (the Kings) were robbed. The Kings absorb a big lengthly contract and give up a potential future all-star, and one of our grinder support guys.
Penner is a joke, it appears to the majority that he has no wish to be here and is a stranger to hard work and discipline. He scored 21 goals on a team going nowhere and had one of the worst =/- on the team. The thing he said he would miss the most was ping-pong, not the rush of leading a young team into the playoffs, but he would miss the peripheral aspects of hockey life. He made millions and didn’t have to do anything. The Kings absorb the contact of a lazy slug whom will walk after this season and be lucky to make half of his currant contract when he signs his next contract. I hate that everyone continues to say, “it’s a contract year for Penner, so we can expect great things from him.” If he didn’t show up last season in the playoffs there isn’t any reason to think he would when his contract is up. The playoffs is the time when you (as a player) can establish your greatness and increase your value.
Now this latest debacle with Smyth making a trade request. It doesn’t bode well for the state of our hockey club when a player like Smyth (whom hasn’t raised the cup) wants a trade from a potential cup contender. What did the Kings receive in return for our 4th leading scorer? A damaged player and a late late pick.
It just seems to me as if there isn’t much research being done. Kings management has more resources than us the fans, but gee wiz (would like to have used another word there,) but I could have given them better information on these moves. I’m not saying I know more than DL and his crew, but Kings fans aren’t idiots and we are knowledgeable fans. Management cannot continue spoon feeding us that the future is bright and the signing of second tier or players that are at the end of their careers.
I have bleed purple (or Forum Blue) and gold since the late 70′s, I would like the Kings to win the cup before I leave this earth. I thought this management team was the one to do this for us suffering Kings fans, but their history throughout their tenure is proving the very opposite. Just another brain trust going through the motions and hoping a group of young guys and second raters can catch lightning in a bottle, and continue to make a yearly appearance in the first or second round of the playoffs so they can keep their jobs.
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dMan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, I’m guessing someone didn’t have his licorice biscuit today or perhaps had too many…
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
@dMan, Playing the game since I was a little kid…without a doubt I have taken too many Licorice biscuits (pucks).
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boxtime17 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit,
WOW… can’t believe you haven’t figured it out by now…. Smythe had a huge contract and although he still had some goals somewhere left on his stick he was a bit slow. The Kings can now use the $$$ saved to get and younger decent wing. He enjoyed it here but wanted to give his family a permanent home in Canada.
Penner was definitely out of shape but wwe need to give the guy achance starting off fresh out of the gate this season. i expect he will be everything we expected.
AND how can you balk at the trade for Richards??? A legitimate all-star center with grit and a lot more to offer. I liked Simmonds as much as everyone else and Schenn could turn out to be fantastic but I also believe that we are a lot closer now to be a contender and may be only a free agent or two away from being a real cup contender!
So my friend you better just relax and get ready to enjoy a great season especially if we land a good player through free agency.
~ Go Kings Go (fan since the mid 70′s – who attended both the ‘Miracle on Manchester’ AND the ‘Frenzy on Figueroa’ – talk about excitement !…)
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@boxtime17, Oh know I’m aware of the salary dump, but they weren’t planning on buying out Fraser. The point was; my faith in DL is shaken (not broken) regarding the research put into some of his moves.
In regards to Richards; I voiced the same thing as you on a hockey fan, but then began checking his references. Just Google it, that garnered more information.
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, whoops… meant to say “Oh I know” crud I stink at typing!!!!
Tookie Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, I don’t have time to research this post. Seems to me some of those guys were pre-DL. I don’t think anyone’s made a secret of the misques DL’s made. Just think about what he had when he got here, he literally had to re-create an organization and its image. There were fillers, there were wastes of space.
Penner will be okay, according to all reports he’s working his fat off. Working hard, motivated to prove everyone wrong. I’ll judge him on a years worth of play rather than a months worth.
Re: Mike Richards, I think you’re way off base with all of the alcohol and drug business. Rumors and inuendo do not equate to fact, and everything I’ve read from anyone who was close to him and his relationship with the flyers has told me that everythings fine, it was just a bad relationship with the media.
You sound like a lot of long time kings fans who’ll believe it when you see it. I don’t blame you, I just choose to have sunshine jammed up my crack, rather than a rain cloud.
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Stuart Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
@Tookie, is the sunshine in your crack really a choice? I’ve heard of swampa$$ but that sounds like something else entirely…
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kingsfaninSB Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, if he continues to play with heart and skill that he does, i could care less if he drinks and is on drugs. he was the CAPTAIN in philly, a very proud franchise. if there was a serious problem he wouldnt be captain. im all for this deal even though its sad to see simmonds go
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
@kingsfaninSB, I agree, it’s just a really long contract if the guy has a problem that well become….um a problem.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, Wow! not sure where to start with this one except I disagree. Richards makes us better NOW and allows us to match up against anyone in the league. We gave up a prospect who is toughted to have the POTENTIAL to be Richards, a roster player who granted is a great players but is replacable, and a pick. I think we win in this one considering the caliber of Richards.
Lets wait till next season to pass judgment on Penner. a sample size of games is not enough to accuratly asses his contributions or lack there of, especially considering he was presented the task of learning a complicated system with everything on the line
DL has done a ton for this club and if you cant see that then……..
we will get there dude! try not to be so pesimistic it will makes things easier.
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, Without a doubt DL has done a lot, but my post was merely stating that my faith in DL has been shaken lately, not broken mind you, just nervous, because we are so close!! But mistakes have been made I would just like a “KINGS STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS” flag to mount in my man-cave.
I’m not giving up on this team
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, I would love one of those flags as well! I think we now have the best chance ever (with the exception to the Great one’s days) to get one and hopefully our guys can make that happen. If we do win id love to join you in the man-cave to celebrate! GO KINGS!!!!
Mark Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
@LicoriceBiscuit, k
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Seriously guys, some of you are sounding like Vancouver fans and players with this post. Stop complaining and whining about this stupid trade. Getting Smyth’s contract off the books was the ONLY important thing in this trade. I dare any of you that are complaining about this right now to come back to this post at the trade deadline next year and see if you feel the same way about the Kings dealing with the Oilers if they have someone the Kings need. Therefore, please just stop it right now, I hate when WE sound like Bitchy Canuckleheads!!! I understand that we are all antsy and awaiting tomorrow’s big day, but this is too much crying over nothing….Thanks for hearing me out.
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that was supposed to be +/-
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I wonder if Smyth once settled in and realizing the cultural differences between the two teams will regret his decision.
In some ways I feel sorry for the Oilers fans as they keep getting shafted year after year (something we Kings fans know only too well!). I have to thank Kings ownership for finally righting that ship though only time will tell whether a Cup will finally make its way to L.A.
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jkking Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
@dMan, are you nuts. He’s going to love it there. He’s HOME.
I’ve been there. frozen hell stuck in the 80′s. the eagle rock mall is better then their malls.
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Mikey Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
@jkking, hahaha, headshot! There are worse malls than the Eagle Rock mall? its depressing just look at the parking lot.
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BobKnob Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@jkking,
Isn’t the West Edmonton Mall any good? When I went there in the 90′s it had a water park and other stuff in there.
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Sorry about my spelling fellow Kings fans
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Do we know if DL knew this guy was hurt?
Either way, we found a taker for Smyth’s monster cap hit which I thought would be impossible. DL did this without taking back a guy with a giant & overpriced salary. That was the key.
So we’ve still got $16 Million to spend.
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Token Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
@LA_1968, No, we have ~ half dozen RFAs and Doughty to sign, so maybe 4 or 6 mill left in the coffers.
If Doughty gets his big bucks, we might just be roster-complete.
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LA_1968 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
@Token, Not sure what your “No” was applying to. If you do the math using your 4-6 million remaining, and include Smyth we’d have zero.
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This makes me want to use words that rich doesn’t approve of. Slimy bastards. I hope their underhandedness inspires all the other GMs to offer sheet all their first round pick RFAs for the next five years.
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Wow… that’s crazy. Snakes in Edmonton…
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it’s fine. we still have enough room to get another left winger.
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KC23 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
@jkking, Yeah, the $ isn’t really a big deal. The dishonesty is. If I were DL I wouldn’t be in a hurry to do business with them again soon.
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im not mad at smyth, however there should be someway around the rule if they say a player is healthy and somehow he has an injury that puts him out through december?? how could the oilers not know this? thats 6 months from now. it must be a pretty serious injury to warrant that much time off. this is ridiculous. anyway, im excited to see what DL does starting tomorrow
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Is the NHL not have the right to void this player transaction being the player is damaged goods? 2nd, are the Oilers playing dumb to NOT knowing that Fraser had a existing injury??
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Look, regardless of whether we got anyone, dropping Smyth and his $6 hit opened up a space for a better player, and one who wont fade. Smyth is only good for another half-season anyways.
I’m a bit leery of Gagne and the miles he has on him; I’m more inclined to want to see Upshall or Cole in a Kings uniform, since both can contribute 15-20 goals WITHOUT scoring half of them on the PP, and we need to upgrade our 5-on-5 scoring.
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@KingsFanInPortland, I didn’t se that, but I did see this retweeted by McKenzie from Helene elliot:
“To repeat/clarify previous; Smyth trade will NOT be voided. They will work out additional/alternative compensation to Kings.”
Wonder what we’re getting..
Probably a $50 gift card to Tim Hortons.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
@Cynic, Lol. Hopefully they send us back Dustin Penner’s will to play, and I’ll call it even.
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Cynic Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
@KingsFanInPortland, LOL! I’ll second that!
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DesertKing Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
@Cynic,
If its a gift card from Bass Pro Shops, go for it!
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DLB Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
@Cynic, Horton’s is overrated; let’s hold out for a half pack of Moulson instead!
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What a Classy organization you chose to handcuff us with Mr, Smyth.
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honestly they went through this whole thing and they still snuck an injured player to us what the heck, i think they just figured it was a lower cap hit anyway so they didnt even check. this is rediculous.
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@puddle, Agreed. And unfunny.
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Lombardi, who should know better, is getting schooled by Edmonton’s GM. I remember when DL came to the season ticket holders meeting after his first year and preached patience on the rebuild. He showed a chart of how earlier Kings management started trading players too soon.
Now DL’s doing exactly what prior management did: start trading picks and young players before the Kings won anything. Let me say this: If Penner continues to play poorly, or even if Penner plays well but leaves the Kings after this season, that will set any rebuild back. Here’s to hoping Penner plays well and after doing so re-signs.
Great great great to hear Doughty is signed.
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KC23 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
@vicarious, He is not signed. Some guys idea of a joke.
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vicarious Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
@KC23, Ah yes. The post falsely announcing Doughty’s signing came up as i was typing. And I am schooled like Lombardi.
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dMan Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
@vicarious, Trusting a fellow GM while making trade negotiations in good faith only to find out you have been lied to is not “getting schooled” by fellow GM, it’s a premeditated deception.
There are only 30 teams in the league and the expectation is that the teams’ representatives are acting in a trustworthy and ethical manner. If Tambellini continues this manner of doing business, the league, NHLPA, agents, players, GMs, staff and all other parties he does business with will turn on him.
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tuan jim Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
@dMan,
– and they’ll turn on him with good reason. If he knew about Fraser’s injury beforehand and made any contrary representation about it to DL to fish his agreement to take the kid “as-is”, then there must be some sort of league sanction for it. In the outside business world there are all sorts of remedial options under the law.
What’s infuriating about this is that Tambellini had the Kings over a barrel. He could palm off virtually ANYBODY on DL and DL had to grin and bear it. But pulling this kind of fast one is an offense to God’s eyes.
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I say trade Penner for Brule and an old blind dog. Straight up.
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un-fricking-believable! This has got to be the strangest trade ever.
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Looks like we are not getting Jokinen so everyone can cross that name off their list..
and i think DD wont sign with the Kings oh well
We still got more D and we be stronger then ever!!
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puddle Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Doughty is going to sign. He’s not a UFA so he doesn’t have to sign before July 1st. But he’s going to sign. From what I’m hearing out there, the two sides are very close and are just ironing out details.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@puddle, oh thought he was lol
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Shotongoal Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Don’t agree, Doughty will sign with the Kings. No one wants to offer the money it would take to pry him from the Kings because , 1. It would take up too much of any teams available cap space and 2. The compensation would be outrageous. Plus, the Kings can match ANY offer he might receive….Relax, it will get done!
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@Shotongoal, lol well i dont know how RFA or UFA works sorry ><
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@staplescenterismycastle,
In his defense, I am sure DD signed something today, probably his credit card receipt or hotel tab, something, just not the dang contract. C’mon DD, I don’t want to buy another jersey to replace yours!
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Always hated the Oilers. The past year revived my hatred. First Penner and now this. I say we both go with our “vintage” jerseys for our games against each other this upcoming season so I can relive that wonderful Smythe Division KO from my childhood.
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Hey did you notice? No more Mike Richards in his Flyer jersey on Website …. Squeaky wheel baby! We area Kings website again!
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@TYLER, He thought it would be funny to make it up and post. Didn’t happen.
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TYLER Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
@KC23, realized this when i refreshed the page…lol not really that funny at all
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/06/kings-nhl-ryan-smyth-hockey-.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LAT_Sports_Blog+%28The+Fabulous+Forum%29
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Dominick Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@tim chaney,
I would like to think there is some compensation coming back to the Kings (but I’m not holding my breath). If Dean is going to file a complaint with the league, he’ll definately have to wait till he’s spent the money on an FA so that the league can’t simply void the trade, and make the Kings take Smyth back.
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KC23 Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
@Dominick, TamBULLini’s crediability diffently took a dump.
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Rich, How is this possible? Sounds like a legal case here. No?
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Oh. It. IS. ON.
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“Mulletgate” is just right. That’s almost as good as “Canadian beer sucks” and is just as likely to trigger an armed skirmish with our cousins in the Great White North. Well played, Mr. Hammonds.
Blame Canada!
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Cmon DL I thought you were a pretty sharp guy why in the world didn’t You get confirmation from our docs before you pulled the trigger?
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So, where is it OK to LIE, TWICE, in a business deal, and get away with it?
In the NHL?
Hopefully, we will be awarded a fairly high draft pick, as punishment
to EDM for dealing in bad faith.
I’ll take a 2012 2nd-rounder.
That would help wipe the tears away from this whole preposterous episode.
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Thanks for wearing the pants in your family Ryan ! Just one more year you could of cried about resigning with your hometown …
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tellmeY Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
@Rudedogg, totally agree
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You’d think the NHL would allow the Kings the option of buying Frasier out since the Oilers didn’t disclose his status to the Kings.
I hope the NHL at least fines the Oilers organization.
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Where were the team doctors? Is it not a buyer beware state? Hey Deano, I’ve got a car I’d like to sell you. Trust me, it runs.
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
@salami, Right! I have some real estate I would like you to purchase without checking out.
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Tamballini is in trouble.
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Well I didn’t want him anyway, but what a sneeky greesey move. We’ll get them back when they finish 30th again.
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