Remember the name Rob Bordson in a couple years, when he’s the answer to a Nick Nickson trivia question on Kings Talk… As expected — and noted in this post from Thursday — the Kings did not tender a qualifying offer to Bordson, who was acquired from Philadelphia in the Mike Richards trade. You’re all invited to post your best memories of Rob Bordson’s career with the Kings.
No other surprises on the qualifying-offer front. All of the Kings’ impending restricted free agents — Andrew Campbell, Marc-Andre Cliche, Rich Clune, Drew Doughty, Corey Elkins, Johan Fransson, Bud Holloway, Trevor Lewis, Alec Martinez, David Meckler, Oscar Moller, Patrick Mullen, Brad Richardson and Jeff Zatkoff — got offers, which, in most cases, only serves to ensure that the Kings will retain those players’ rights (even in the case of Moller, who will play in Sweden). If the team doesn’t tender a qualifying offer, the player becomes an unrestricted free agent. Players can accept the qualifying offers, but given that they only come with a minor salary raise, most continue to negotiate new contracts.
The only other notable aspect is that Lewis, Martinez and Richardson are eligible for arbitration this summer.
I’d like to see Clune get a shot with us next year, if as expected Clifford is our full time 3rd line LW. I prefer Clune over Westy on the 4th line.
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Dominick Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
@CB14, I was surprised Clune wasn’t here last season. With Simmonds out, DL will look to find a replacement, but I wouldn’t count Clune out, for a strong bid there, or on the fourth line, that’s for sure.
Would love to get him yappin away on the ice.
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regulate Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
@Dominick,
Unless Clifford goes down with an injury, there is zero reason to have a player with his limited skills on our roster. Zero.
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
@regulate, So you would rather have Westie in there over Clune? I don’t.
Bodoe Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:51 am
@regulate, What about his conditioning? During last years training camp, he came out on top of the camp’s physical fitness tests. He could run other players into the ice with his stamina.He’d be skating circles around other players when they’re huffing and puffing trying to get back to the bench. We could definitely stand to see more of what he can offer to the team. Dean wants gritty players, well he’s definitely got one in CLune.
Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 am
@regulate,
Some said Clifford wasn’t ready, and no way does he play in the NHL, and he not only secured a spot, but got better as the season wore on, to the point where we counted on him to be in the line up.
What’s the point of developing if you have no intention of using him. The whole porpose of developing him is to be a 3rd or 4rth line guy anyways. So the Monarchs might just have done there job there. No gaurentee, but it’s not too far fetched either.
Harty Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
@regulate, agreed, why have Clune we don’t need him with Clifford around.
Clifford should be the 3rd line LW in fact I think he handle additional responsibility with Richards in the 2nd line spot.
LBlocal Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Anthony Stewart for 3RW?
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joe v Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 am
@LBlocal, that’d be awesome… what about joel ward?
O-Dawg Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
@Dominick, Can someone photoshop a Kings jersey on Mike Richards already? I know Deano like himself some good Philly steaks but enough is enough. The poor grammer and tense was on purpose.
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THANK YOU ROB BORDSON!
6/23/2011 – 6/27/2011
YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN!
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Harrison Merkin Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
@Jonathan, His name was Robert Bordson. His name was Robert Bordson. His name was Robert Bordson.
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Tito Jackson Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
@Harrison Merkin,
Don’t say that in a mirror three times.
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the_guv Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@Harrison Merkin, In trade we have names.
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lafan13 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
@Harrison Merkin, hahaha
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tim chaney Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
@Jonathan, yes he will…
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neil Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
@tim chaney, who?????
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kb Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
@Jonathan, Cloutier who?
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rontheking Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
@Jonathan, Bordson Gets Boarded!–Rob Bordson, we hardly knew ye!
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mash-ola Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
@Jonathan, Dear Bob: I’ll never forget the way you would come to the rink every morning… with a smile on your face and fire in your eyes… You were an inspiration in the lockeroom and a true leader on the ice… It seems like we just get started, and before you know it, comes the time we have to say ‘so-long’… Oh, wait… nevermind…
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PRMan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:29 am
What?! I just got my Bordson jersey!
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I wonder how many hours of sleep DL is getting these days?
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Bill M. Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
@Pesus, -3
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Dominick Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
@Bill M., He already got -10 with the Smyth trade. lol
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Eric Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
@Pesus, I’m sure his nice salary helps him sleep at night.
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thanks for your service Mr. Bordson. us Kings fans appreciate the hard work you put in over these last four days.
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
@Dave, LMAO!
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neil Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
@Dave, it was a “Heavy” 4 days….He played the ” right way”
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omar winkie Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
@neil, he played better then penner, lol
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Crashin'da net Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
@omar winkie, but did he have a heavy shot mentality?
Shakes Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@Dave,
Robert Bordson. He always played each shift like it was his last shift with the team.
Robert Bordson. He was the kinda guy who played for the name in front of his jersey, not the one in the back, even though he never got a jersey.
Robert Bordson. He never spoke up much around here, but when he did, people listened.
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rontheking Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
@Shakes,
He played with his heart on his sleeve, and a tear in his eye….
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jet Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
@Shakes, thought i came out ahead on the jersey trade, Tukonen for Bordson
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
@Dave, when is the book coming out?
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Bodoe Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:55 am
@Dave, Did he even come to L.A.?
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Busy off-season for lombardi! Good work so far!
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in death he has a name… his name is ROB BORDSON…his name is ROB BORDSON…(repeat)
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Harrison Merkin Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
@tornado12, damn….you beat me to it. Sorry gang. Here I thought I was all clever and what not. Back to the drawing Bord…son.
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tornado12 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
@Harrison Merkin, in comedy…timing is everything…lol
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
@tornado12,
COMEDY???
I thought you guys were serious………………….
Scot Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
@tornado12,
Haha
I will not ask questions…
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tornado12 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
@Scot, lol
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mash-ola Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
@tornado12, Ok.. I’m blanking on this one, yet I remember it… What movie is this from??? Arghh.. it’s killing me… I can hear the chants even now…
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NealyBoy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
@mash-ola, I would love to tell you.. But the first rule says I can’t talk about it.. And the second rule is..
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mash-ola Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@NealyBoy, ah…. Bach! Thank you! And the name Quasimodo DOES ring a bell, so stop calling me Surely!
tornado12 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
@mash-ola, think brad pitt and ed norton….
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omar winkie Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:33 am
@tornado12, and think of meatloaf
Fare thee well, Rob. Your services were criminally underrated around these parts. You did a lot for the organization in your time here. You’ll be missed!
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
@markisonfire, I too am reeling with the hangover and aftermath of the Bordson era, I tried to concentrate on my work today, but to no avail, the little things i life that brought me joy suddenly seemed a burden, the things I hold dear in this life, now so trivial. The weight of the loss is like an anvil I carry, thrusting downward upon my once jubilant spirit. O’ Ye is merciless deity who taketh our Joy that is Bordson
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Happy to see progress with the free agents..
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Just dont sign w/ the Ducks.
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I remember that one article Rich posted about Rob’s short tenure with the KINGS…those were the days.
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Every kings players most favorite fan Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
@Joey No-No, you remember the time he challenged all the duck players to a fight and he beat all of them single handily even though both of his arms were tied behind his back.
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number 6 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
@Every kings players most favorite fan,
Un un….. you’re mistaken. That was Mikas
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Every kings players most favorite fan Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
@number 6, my bad, it was bordson we thought broke all gretzky’s records when we played beatle records backwards.
Bodoe Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:57 am
@Every kings players most favorite fan, If they were both behind his back. yet he did it single-handedly….does he have 3?
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i will continue to wear my Bordson jersey with pride!
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you guys remember that time bordson came over in that richards trade? way back in the day
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16,005 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
@king_stoner,
That was awesome!!!
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Shakes Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
@king_stoner,
i heard he actually carried that trade. Literally. He flew Richards over to LA. But sadly he purchased a roundtrip ticket so had to leave as quickly as he arrived.
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Jeff Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
@Shakes, I heard the whole trade was scrapped, until Bordson came a part of it. Thank you Robert, I will never forget the strength you gave in pushing Richards to Los Angeles.
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Bordson’s exploits with the Kings were nearly as legendary as the great Juraj Mikus. It is a sad day for the franchise. I will always remember 6/27 as Bordson’s Day.
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Shakes Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
@Matt R,
maybe the Kings will dedicate one of our upcoming Legends nights to good ol’ “Bordo”
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sign the ogood ones lol
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ROB BORDSON or RADEK BONK who’s tenure as a King was more memorable?
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two right wing prospects from the Monarchs:
Brandon Kozun got in a full year in his 1st pro season; here’s some info on him….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Kozun
Tyler Toffoli played only one regular season game, plus playoffs, in his AHL debut;
he’s been invited to Canada’s National Team Junior Development Camp….
http://www.monarchshockey.com/news.php?nid=4013
I wouldn’t expect either to make the big roster this year, but since we’re always looking for pleasant surprises, here are two to consider….
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holly Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
@Real 7, Eh, Kozun has some growing to do. By which I mean that if he doesn’t build up his strength he’s likely to be steamrolled.
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PP Anybody? Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:34 am
@holly, Say, I was wondering what your take is on Jordan Nolan? I know he’s still sort of a rough rookie prospect and didn’t get a lot of ice time up there in Manchester, but he seems scrappy and has good size. Seems to me with some seasoning and working on some things, that he may have some Simmonds/Clifford-like potential. What say you?
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Harty Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@PP Anybody?, I think so, but I’m bias as Jordan is my cousin’s son.
So due to conflict I’m out, but lets bring him up?
holly Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@PP Anybody?, I like Jordan a lot, he has a ton of heart and seems like a really nice guy. That said, I don’t know that he’s quite ready yet. He tends to be pretty streaky, with most of his best play coming from being on a line with stronger skill guys. That said, just about any player benefits from playing with linemates who are able to create quality chances.
He has a style somewhat similar to Simmonds, though I don’t know that he’s capable of the flexibility as far as which lines he can play on that we occasionally saw from Simmonds. He’d be a very good 4th liner or a passable 3rd liner in the future depending on how he progresses this summer. He’s willing to get his hands dirty, particularly if it comes to stepping up for one of his teammates. And I really enjoy when they have Clune and Nolan on a line. More often than not, the shift ends with mayhem. http://youtu.be/eKUXRi4kbGg And yes, you do see that right. There were points in the season where Clune, Nolan and Zeiler were a line.
PP Anybody? Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
@PP Anybody?, Thanks Holly! I figured Nolan needed more time and probably wouldn’t be ready for the Kings this year, but from what I’ve seen he looks like he could very much a Cliffy type player in the future. I tend to think players in that role have a better chance of making it with his size/strength. Clune and Zeiler, as scrappy as they are, really seemed to get taken out pretty hard in the their times with the Kings. They just seem out-matched physically against their respective counterparts on other teams. That’s why Clifford made it last year even at 19, and Clune and Zeiler got stuck in Manchester, as far as I saw it.
Steven Jaime Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
@holly, For true you are. He could literally be killed by being smashed all over the Bord-Son, and with no Bordson around to retaliate. It would be hard to watch happen.
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SLIM Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
@holly,
Welcome back…manchester Holly…
Loved your Manch updates during the year…
Please keep it up this year..Your’e right he is smallish
but has some tremendous skill and speed….
An American LA born Canadian with Canadian mother…
Like Lokti…I have high hopes for these players…
Let me dream…Pavel Bure…5 50 goal and 2 60 goal seasons…
If I remember right he was smallish also…
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holly Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
@SLIM, I don’t have a problem with players who are on the smaller side in general. However, you’ll notice that most of the guys who are successful that are short tend to also be fairly broad and muscular, too. Last time I saw him, Kozun was short and pretty slender. Without additional muscle and because of his shorter stature, I’d be concerned with an injury. While nothing is going to protect someone from a fluke injury, I’m just concerned that the lack of muscle/strength would leave him more open to something happening.
And Bure had at least 3 inches and 35 lbs on Kozun.
Anyone know when the arbitration eligible folks have to file by? Just curious if there’s a deadline.
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Gotta hit team LA up for a discount rib bordson jersey
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
@cameron, Does that come with BBQ sauce?
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IceGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
@Cynic,
Henceforth, whenever I order a Jamoca Shake, I’ll always think fondly of the good ol’ days of RB (with horsey sauce).
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wavesinair Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
@cameron, There are LaBarbara jerseys still floating around that store.
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PK Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
@wavesinair, Gag in my mouth. I’m stoked to see LaBarfra 6 times this year in a PHX jersey =)
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Ian Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
@PK, First thing that crossed my mind when i heard about the Bryzgalov trade.
broncokings Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
@PK, he’ll probably shut us out each time we face him
Haha sadly bordson did do a lot for us, no one thinks about it though. He got us Richards =P
Always remember Bordson! 6/23/2011 – 6/27/2011
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mash-ola Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
@Caleb C, His name was Robert Bordson… His name was Robert Bordson…
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Caleb C Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
@mash-ola, I love how this post just kind of became a joke…
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I love the sense of humor on this site. One day this site may be long gone, but the memories of Rob Bordson and Juraj Mikus will live on forever…
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wavesinair Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
@luuc, Mikus will never forgive you for putting his name and that other guy in the same sentence. I fear for your safety now.
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luuc Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
@wavesinair,
Should I sacrifice Roman Vopat as an apology to the great Mikus?
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@luuc, The Vopat brothers have a special place in Juraj’s heart, especially Roman, as it reminds him of the empire he began to conquer some 1500 years ago when he was known as Odoacer.
He got the other have about 1,000 years later when he was known as Mehmed II.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire
Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
@luuc, ‘Half’ (Damn broken edit function)
JWR Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
@luuc,
As Cynic can attest I do still have my Game worn Roman Vopat jersey
Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
@wavesinair, It’s a good point. However, he may be appeased if you can score one of those ‘Rib Bordsen’ jersey’s Cameron was talking about. It’s widely recognized that Ribs are one of Juraj’s favorite foods, usually eaten off the backs of his opponents with their blood as BBQ sauce.
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mash-ola Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
@Cynic, His name was Robert Bordson… His name was Robert Bordson….
SLIM Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
@Cynic,
I just had a Shrimp/Rib Bordsen plate at Norm’s..
They are both well priced..
number 6 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
@wavesinair,
…
Waves, you and I obvioulsy usually agree on most Kings related info. However, here I must correct you…. as it was Juraj who created compassion.
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Moondoggie Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
@luuc, Rob Bordson’s play with the Kings reminded me a lot of the play of the legendary Juraj Mikus….If I’m not mistaken, Juraj played in just a few more games for the Kings (Manch) than Rob did.
I know it’s close but when you’re comparing legends, the comparisons are always so similar.
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Pretty interesting/cool that the 3 guys eligible for arbitration all had standout years. Strictly from the players’ standpoint, I hope they all get contracts they deserve, whether it’s with the Kings or not. Solid trio of talent there. Deano has his work cut out for him this summer. It’s like the polar opposite from last year.
On a side note, I have a total of 2 bobbleheads to my name (free give aways from last year). Wanna guess which two? Yep, Smyth and Simmonds. They both now call a dumpster home (I never really wanted them to begin with so the trades were a good excuse to toss ‘em).
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Moondoggie Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
@wavesinair, Hey waves….Any chance at a Rob Bordson bobblehead this year?!?!? Guess not…
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LomitaKingsFan Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
@wavesinair, Hey, that Simmonds bobblehead was from the first insider suite.
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wavesinair Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:23 am
@LomitaKingsFan, That’s right! I forgot. On his way to the trashcan, Simmonds fell and his head broke off. Poor little guy.
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PP Anybody? Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
@wavesinair, One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. Those might just wind up being valuable collectibles some day. You should hang on to them and sell them 10 years from now to someone on ebay for 500 dollars!
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Hadley Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
@PP Anybody?, I loved the short-lived Simmonds era and I will treasure his bobblehead forever. I would like to see the Kings sign Brett Sterling as a second-line winger. Brett has the hands and the touch for about 40 goals playing with Richards and Brown.
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wavesinair Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:24 am
@PP Anybody?, Too late. Maybe in 1000 years, some alien will dig him up in the landfill.
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Ravens Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
@wavesinair, I love your humor waves
Let it be known that Rob Bordson’s attempt at legendary status has failed in 4 days. There will be many imposters but there is only ONE original Juraj Mikus. A valiant attempt for a mere mortal, but it takes lifetimes of training and boatloads of charisma to attain the level of legend of THE Juraj Mikus. 4 days isn’t enough time or effort to be a canker sore on Juraj’s lip!
If there was ever a Mikus light, you would still only be ‘Light’.
Godspeed Bordsen. Your family makes fine milk products. Elsie the Cow is waiting for you to come home.
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Irish lak Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
@Cynic, oh god , your coment made me laugh so hard I just choked on a gob stopper.
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wavesinair Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
This is me clicking the “like” button. LOL.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@Cynic,
The Most Interesting Hockey Player in the World could not have said it better…
Therefore, he must have spoken to you previously, in tongues…
/QED
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Zeley Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
He is …
… the most interesting man in the world.
“I don’t always drink beer, but when I do, ….
“Stay thirsty my friends.”
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39scars Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
@Zeley, Hockey translation- retain your desire to drink from the cup
Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
@Cynic, Awsome….just awsome!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
@Cynic,
To actually speakth of the milk products……..impressive, most impressive.
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TYLER Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
@Cynic, as a newer kings fan…i have no idea what these juraj mikus comments are about…can anyone explain?? i only started following the kings 2 years ago so im kinda lost…
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
@TYLER, Start Here my Newbie friend: http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdVy_JQlO4GoABZBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1NTNxNTIwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA1NNRTAyM18xNTU-/SIG=12rsjh02v/EXP=1309243935/**http%3a//www.insidesocal.com/kings/2009/07/the-legend-of-juraj-mikus.html
Partake of the glory and then continue on to Part 2
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
@Cynic, Whoops….Pt 1: http://www.insidesocal.com/kings/2009/07/the-legend-of-juraj-mikus.html
Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
@Cynic, Pt 2: http://www.insidesocal.com/kings/2009/07/the-legend-of-juraj-mikus-part.html
TYLER Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
@Cynic, LOL so basically hes the chuck norris of the kings…or better yet “the most interesting man of the kings”
signed but then played in europe?
haha so dumb…im gunna name my kid juraj mikus or rob bordson
mash-ola Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
@Cynic, His name was Lizzy Borden… his name was Lizzy Borden…
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Rob Bordson, he showed up more this year for the Kings then the Sedin sisters did for the canucks in the cup finals. A true team player, I think.
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In the room it was Rob…on the ice he was a monster…fast and furious…the face of the Kings…remember we never own a player, he is just loan loan from heaven…Bordson, dude you will be missed.
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You guys are a riot , ha ha hee hee, im so sad to lose him I think ill have to bbq a nice porter house, and eat for all his hard work. ( this nati ice is for you) the guiness is for me , you deserve a high quality beer bud .
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nhl network doesnt give us a chance in hell to get brad richards. seriously hoping for gagne and or jokinen…
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chuckrocks Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
@tim chaney, If he is smart and wants to win then he should come here. If he wants to be overpayed on an overrated, underachieving team he will go to the Rangers. Whatever, the Kings will do great this year with our without him. GO KINGS!
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Zeley Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
@chuckrocks,
I heard that reasoning last year. Of course, “he” wasn’t Brad Richards and the team wasn’t the Rangers.
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
@Zeley, But we weren’t the same team last year as we are now. We’re way better now that we’ve got Mike Richards. So that theory might work this year.
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
@tim chaney, Brooks Laich!
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Mongo88 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, 100% agree with you.
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tim chaney Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, that would be a prime opportunity as well. trying to trust DL, still trying to understand trading schenn when he did all he could do at the trading deadline to keep him…
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
@tim chaney, If he was going to trade him it had to be the right guy and Mike Richards was it. He is young, signed for a long contract at a reasonable cap hit is one of the best two way centers in the game has scoring punch and IS what Schenn has the POTENTIAL to be. It took me a bit to come to grips with losing Schenn but it was a very good trade and makes us a stronger team right off the bat and for many years to come.
These where the best four days of my life, the hype around that guy was amazing.
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Anyone want to buy a Rob Bordson Kings jersey?
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Quisp Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
@PaulCat,
The plight of the over-zealous Kings fan with internet access.
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
@PaulCat, I’ll trade ya for a Double-Double with grilled onions AND fries…..
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@Cynic,
Not even CLOSE to be worth THAT MUCH!
(speaking of which, it’s been a few days without a double-double so I think we’ll be making a In-N-Out run tonite!)
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
@Kingsfanone, I’m overpaying, but I really want that jersey…
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
@PaulCat,
Used, right?
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Not just used, game used.
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Shakes Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
@PaulCat,
He may be the only player in Kings history whose jersey is worth less if it’s signed
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
@Shakes, Or would be worth MORE if Rich signs it.
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Shakes Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
@Cynic,
whoa, what a statement! that’s a vortex of knowledge that only Juraj could solve.
Let me state here that Bordson performed as well as anyone on the team during his stint here. Farewell.
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ROB BORDSON dont score 40 in 2011 please.
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I can’t help but wonder if this trade will be most remembered for bringing in Mike Richards, or for failing to sign Bordson after he torches us on some other team a few years down the road…
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
@Helvetica, That is also My biggest fear
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My favourite memory of Bordson with the Kings is that he came in the trade that got us a player as awesome as Mike Richards.
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Hi Rich,
I didn’t know how else to reach you, but I remember the Kings sent you on a scouting trip last season in which you watched five kids. I was wondering if we selected any of those kids or if your sharp scouting went for naut… Rob
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Bodoe Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:19 am
@Jay Wells Fan, I really like your handle. My grandfather was good friends (and neighbor) of Jay Wells. I’m lucky enought to have 2 signed game used sticks from the guy. One of the sticks also has all the other Kings signature on it (including Jim Fox and Dave Taylor)
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Sign Brad Richards July 1!
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Sebastian Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
@Mike in Oregon, NOPE!
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
@Mike in Oregon, yes please!
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@Mike in Oregon,
Sign Brad RichardsON July 1
FTFY
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Osaka Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
@Mike in Oregon, That doesn’t sound like the midlevel contract Dean said he is looking to add.
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
@Osaka, True, but being that there’s only 1 top level free agent out there, what do you expext him to say?
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Osaka Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
@CB14, Good point.
I’m heart broken! I was hoping he’d be on the Fan Cruise next month!
First I had to get over Wayne Simmonds and now the departure of another fan favorite, Rob “The Robber” Bordson
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Sebastian Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
@Maury, LOL, “the Robber”, did you make that up? haha!
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Maury Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@Sebastian,
I did when I was writing it. Thanks for the compliment!
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Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
@Maury, I thought that was Stauber’s nickname: Robb ‘The Robber’ Stauber. He robbed us of plenty of wins…LOL!
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Michael J. Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
@Cynic,
That was “Blue Line” Stauber.
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Shakes Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
@Michael J.,
Stauber was the only player who delivered a check to an opposing forward. In the neutral zone. Every game.
Ill always remember when Bordson saved my life. i was in the streets one day and i just bought a hot dog from a street vendor. With a shining light of sunshine behind him Bordson came up to me out of nowhere and said to me “Hey kid, don’t eat that”. so i looked down at the hot dog and then threw it away into the nearby trash can. I looked up to thank Bordson and he was gone…
And today Im still alive! Thank you BOB BORDSON!
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
@Nightman,
I didn’t realize Bob Bordson loved eating out of garbage cans…
Who knew?
–The life you saved may not have been your own!
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, Doesn’t everyone?
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@Nightman, he gave me the winning exacta numbers for the fifth race at Hialeah today, it was a parting gift for he’s appreciation, and now he has work to do elswhere
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
@Ravens,
Sooooo, that’s why you don’t throw YOUR mane around on stage anymore?
You go to the track and watch horses throw their manes around! Interesting trade.
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Uh, oh. It appears that another loon (GOON) from Philly East has become a UFA.
Daniel Carcillo. No flier extended to this Flyer it seems.
gKg!
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The Kings should have traded Bordson, Fraser and Westgarth to Tampa for that Stamkos guy…..lol
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DesertKing Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
@chuckrocks,
Best idea of the day, even it never ever possibly in a million years without a blink of the eye would have worked
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Ian Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
@chuckrocks, I will fund the alcohol to see this deal gets done.
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@Ian, I think a deal like that needs to be funded with acid, I’m not sure alchohol gets it done!
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
@chuckrocks, You never know until you ask.
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After the trade we heard a lot from Richards and a little bit from Schenn, but never heard any interviews from Simmonds or Bordson. I really dont care what Borson has to say, but nobody caught up with Simmonds. whats up with that?
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PK Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@Sebastian, He’s probably really pissed
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Tito Jackson Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
@Sebastian,
Hes been interviewed. You can google news it.
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deadcatbounce Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370271@Sebastian
It’s not much, and if yo’re lookig for Wayne to say how devastated he was to be traded you’ll be disappointed. The Kings are in his rear-view mirror and he’s focused on being a Flyer now, and rightfully so.
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There are so many Bordson moments, its hard to pick just one. From the Miracle on Manchester game winner, to the OT goal to beat the RedWings in Game 6 in ’01…..
Clear some space in the rafters, theres another jersey to be raised!
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watch rob bordson score 25 goals next year…as typical with every player we let go!
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19 year old left wing prospect Maxim Kitsyn ["I score goals"]
won gold with the Russian national team in the World Junior tournament last December,
and his OHL team came within one game of winning the Memorial Cup this past season….
he has winner written all over him [I can see it now]; another future star in the making…
Dean had some interesting, positive, things to say about him….
http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/01/07/lombardi-discusses-schenn-kitsyn-forbort/
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
@Real 7, I thought his name was Maxim “I must break you” Kitsyn, when did it change? Or am I thinking about Mikus? Or mabye it’s Bordson. I’m lost now.
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Ravens Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
@CB14, we are all lost
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Bordson joins the most incredible group ever – “The Couda Would Group” – those players sent away by the Kings and who are forever mentiond in the Insider for what they “coulda” or “woulda” done for our team. Bordson’s name will forever be spoken and known only after the preceding phrase of “Remember, if DL hadn’t let Bordson walk, we coulda and woulda had the Cup 5 times by now.” Good luck Bordson and I hope your career works out well for you. Maybe you could share a cab with Fraser?
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Will bordson be booed when he plays against us?
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Ian Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
@Jonnyrb, Only if he spills his beer.
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OttoKing Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
@Ian, Bam!
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@Jonnyrb, He shouldn’t be. He was simply doing whats best for his family. I’ve said it a thousand times, that’s not selfish, and anyone who thinks it is, is selfish themselves! Don’t worry Rob, i’ll be there cheering for you to help drown out the boos that SOME people on this site will be giving you. You are a classy individual, and I thank you for all the greattt things you did for the Los Angeles Kings in your short time here. Three cheers for Rob Bordson, Hip hip horray, hip hip horray, hip hip horray! Long live Rob Bordson!
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kingsxstevenxkings Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
@Jonnyrb,
I say he gets a standing O from all die hard kings fans, in thanks for bring over MR.
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Does this mean Doughty got a offer????
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RMFB!
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Bordson was the kinda guy every team needs in the locker room (to clean up when the players go home).
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I don’t understand why he was included in the trade then. I understand salary dumps, but why is it we would take an RFA that we have no intention of making a qualifying offer to? There’s no compensation if he signs with another team, correct?
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Raitis Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
@ViperHockey, Flyers had too many signed contracts. They were at the max.
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…and they say Rich Hammond doesn’t have a sense of humor???
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mash-ola Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
@G Trudeau, His name was Richie Hammond… His name was Richie Hammond…
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all I need to cheer me up after a hard day of work is to open up this blob and read….ok except for Poorman (LOL)
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I’d say Bordson was as much help to the Kings as Penner in first half of 2011.
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Shotongoal Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@KC23, NICE!!! Sheesh good thing, I was just about to order my Bordson jersey!!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
@KC23,
Actually Bordson’s stats are higher than Penner because he was here a shorter time.
Penner has a lot to live up to now.
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number 6 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
@Kingsfanone,
OMG…
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get doughty locked up for many years.
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Rich, please don’t forget to let us know in advance when Rob Bordson Day is!! I don’t want all the seats to be sold out before I can get my tix!! Thanks!
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
@SuperSonic420, I think he’s going to get the Bordson suite for us at Staples on that day
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kinger Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
@Ravens, LMAO!! That’s what the insiders suite should be named for. Lol.
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Buster Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:29 am
@Ravens,
I don’t think the Mikus would approve.
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Sorry guys, it’s just too soon to comment.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
@Michael J.,
Sleep on it, have a beverage, watch War and Peace, then read the book version, have a latte, and then it will come to you
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Maury Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Play NHL11 on the Wii
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
@Michael J.,
Tissue?
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
@Michael J., Ask Dean what the meaning of life is then listen to his answer. If that doesn’t give you enough time to get your emotions in check, there’s something wrong with you. LOL
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grega11 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:45 am
@Michael J., i love it
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Thank you all. I will truly miss LA. It was a tremendous run and I’ll forever remember my time there.
Although I am only paying homage to the real Rob Bordson, I am humbled by your outpouring of love. So, I will now use the screen name “Rob Bordson” because someone has to do it and I thought of it first!
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What number was he assigned?
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Maury Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
1/2
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Munchrat Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@Maury, I wanna be the first kid on my block with a Bordson jersey.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
@Munchrat,
I am waiting for the limited edition lunch pail!! I hope the cup on top of the thermos is purple!!
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
@Munchrat,
Blank.
Notice, the blank jersey has been retired by the Kings. From this day forward, all Kings players will wear jerseys with numbers on them…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
…
I myself have such a jersey, in honor of Bordson.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Nice!
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You know, maybe we should have kept him…he might have done better than Penner!
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Bordson had as much impact on the Kings as ESPN does on hockey.
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
@Tito Jackson, so your saying ESPN covers Hockey?
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Tito Jackson Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
@Ravens, I might be wrong. Could have been a commercial for Sports Illustrated and a hockey phone giveaway.
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Anybody think the Kings should sign ex-Penguin Tyler Kennedy?
http://www.pensburgh.com/2011/6/27/2247280/tyler-kennedy-not-given-qualified-offer-becomes-unrestricted-free
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number 6 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Yes!! Absoluuutely.
I’m sorry Bako…. what was the question again?
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
@number 6,
…
I’m sorry.
Bet you thought I was off-topic again…
You were right.
–ADD do!
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Real 7 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
that could be an avenue for Deano to explore……..a 21 goal scorer is not to be sneezed at, & only 25 yrs. old
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nhl/2377/player?r=1
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
@Real 7,
Number 6, then Real 7…?
Numbering my sixth shooter, I really HAVE to turn down my seventh XX & stick to tequila…
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number 6 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
You sure as hell do big guy
TYLER Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, I really think they should….PLEASE. the dude has skills
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Do we have a replacement for Mikus?
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
@Who Knows?,
Does Mikus prefer Corona?
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Kluka68 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, No he likes Dos Equis
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crashin' da net Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
@Kluka68, No, XX likes him.
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
@Kluka68,
Well…
That explains that.
Buster Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:32 am
@Kluka68,
No no no.
Dos Equis likes Mikus.
Cynic Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
@Who Knows?, This statement is SO wrong….
C’mon, you know that is impossible!
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@Rich,
You know whats great Rich? It’s not all that necessary to work so hard on your end from now on. We don’t really need that much hockey related info here. It’s just becoming an ‘entertainment’ site.
Seriously, you guys are mad as hatters. But it’s fantastic entertainment.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
@number 6,
Who says Mad Hatters don’t enjoy hockey?
http://www.guelphstorm.com/article/storm-unveils-third-jerseys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelph_Biltmore_Mad_Hatters
Shame on you…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
@Rich,
Moderate, moderate…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
@Rich,
Oh, come ON, now!
…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
@Rich,
YES!
My arms are raised in triumph…
…Like that Mayhem commercial where he’s shooting stones and talking to Robert @ 3:39:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R8vG9NJQFY
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number 6 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Bakrd, what are we going to do with you?
I for one know I’ll be a Staples Center on “Rob Bordson Night” when his jersey is lifted in the rafters for all eternity!!!!
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Look, people. you bash Rob Bordson all you want, but never forget that the guy scored just as many goals for the Kings as higher-profile names like Petr Klima, Ilkka Sinisalo, Jeff Halpern, and Rob Brown and highly-touted prospects like Lauri Tukonen, Jeff Tamebllini, and Brayden Schenn…and in fewer games played, too. And I’ve heard opponents say he was one of the all-time toughest Kings to play against on defense–you think you’ve got him one moment, and then he’s gone.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
@Mel Powell,
Ghost-like…
A Wraith…
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Speaking of RFA not getting QO – how about Patty-O? Round 2 anyone?
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jet Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
@Matt, patio sacrificed his development for a couple of hundred thousand dollars. All the players who think they are going to hold out should study this lifecycle carefully.
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RICH,
Did you in your wildest dreams think a Bordson thread would blow up like this one?
(well…….actually you probably did)
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
@Kingsfanone,
Does Juraj Mikus know the future?
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Juraj not only knows the future, he is the future.
Jaraj also knows the past, which is why he skates so fast. Therefore the past never catches up to him.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
@Kingsfanone,
No matter where he went…
There he was.
Bordson’s plus/minus with the King’s was 21 better than JJ.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@KC23,
Mwahahahaha…
So was mine.
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tornado12 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@KC23, dont let Dominick hear you say that…shoot did I say that outloud?
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KC23 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:11 am
@tornado12, Thread got too big too fast, I think I snuck a JJ plus/minus jab by Dominick without having to hear about JJ’s always having to do defensive faceoffs.
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Hadley Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
@KC23, the great pity is we undoubtedly could have sent JMFJ to the Flyers instead of Simmonds.
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Rob Bordson….now there’s an impact player if there ever was one. He allowed the Kings to get better without doing much of anything.
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I can’t wait until December when some team calls him to cover an injury and he scores a goal. Some poor guy or man will post DL is a loser for letting this sniper get away
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number 6 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
@39scars,
brilliant….. hey, he had a wicked wrist shot from the blue line when he played in midgets
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Ravens Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
@number 6, HA!
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In retrospect, I must thank DL…
Without this thread, this theme, July 4th weekend may have come and gone short true LAKingsInsider humor.
This might have resulted in terminal seriousness in the face of true summer heat, free time and baseball boredom… Dreaming…
I found myself naked to the world, finding a newspaper suit while sharing a hot dog with another homeless person at the Mission St. Hollywood Fwy overpass… Helene was dumping on the Kings again, reading the newsprint behind the crick of my left elbow extending down my forearm…
Juraj Mikus had long since left us, forsaken here in L.A., inspiring Smyth to make up his own story to leave, but never signing off on DL’s deal…
Mike Richards had me dreaming of the Rich-Richards-Richardson Brad-Mike-Brad line, imagining being eaten by the worm at the bottom of my bottle of REAL Tequila…
I was having nightmares of The Night Train in a Philadelphia sweater beating me up for not loving the Cheese steak sandwich he made for me and Drew Doughty…
I was beginning to think it could be alright to spell Smith without a ‘y’…
And now–revenge of the anonymous!
There is hope for the world…
Brilliance, Rich… Sheer brilliance.
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You know, I could handle Smyth. It was rough, but I found my composure. But Bordson? Of all people!?!?
Are any of you by any chance watching the new right now? Our collective tears, due to Bordson’s departure, have overflown the LA river. They say if it gets much worse, Balboa Lake will be flooded. Sad, sad day in LaLaLand.
My heart is hurt, my brain in a daze… I just do not know if I can go on anymore.
Fire DL.
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Rob Bordson
He was a good guy in the locker room, did all the little things day in and day out, his leadership will be missed.
6/23/2011 – 6/27/2011
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go kings go!
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EJHradek_NHLEJ Hradek
I’m hearing there are more potentially big trades on the horizon. It could be a wild week!
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Osaka Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
@Osaka, If you were Det would you trade Zetterburg for JJ, Bernier, and Lokti? That would give them room to make a play for Brad Richards to replace Zetterburg while addressing needs they have with youth they also need.
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puck73 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
@Osaka, I love Zetterberg, but they already have a young goalie in Jimmy Howard. Interseting thought though.
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Osaka Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
@puck73, I’m not sure they are sold on Howard but you may be right. Zetterburg is signed for a decent cap hit so it makes him more attractive. Eh just killing time to see what winger(s) DL brings in.
Rich – any word on Cz, will he get an elc
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jet Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
@jet, and is his little brother one of the camp invites?
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The Chicago Blackhawks have sent wing Tomas Kopecky(notes) to Florida in exchange for a seventh-round draft pick.
The team said Monday it will receive a 2012 pick, conditional to Nashville. If that pick is not available, Chicago gets Florida’s seventh-round pick in 2013.
Huh? A winger who scored 25 goals for a 7th round draft pick?!!!!!
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jonsey Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
@Krusher, Sounds a lot like our trade. Welcome to cap hell. Good thing we were able to relieve ourselves of 6.25.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
@Krusher,
It’s the Curse of Ryan Smyth…
–He begins and ends the Rob Bordson Era, him for Bordson and a 7th round pick…
–Now it’s Tomas Kopecky for a 7th round pick…
I can see the pattern…
Call Scully!
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number 6 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
BAKO… YOU, MY FRIEND ARE ON FIRE TODAY…. AND MAYBE TONIGHT.
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jet Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
@Krusher, tic toc, you better be able to stay up 72 hours
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Gary livingston Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:07 am
@Krusher,
Kopecky isn’t signed. He’s a ufa on July 1st. They only traded for his rights. Not quite the same as trading for a player signed for another year.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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I should get Bordson put on the back of last years road jersey, by the way, doesnt it seem wrong that they are still charging $114 for a jersey they wont be wearing any lomger. You would think if they were changing jerseys that they wouldn’t make that one available after the desicion was made to change.
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Hey Rich,
Do you ever rank the different threads in different categories, uch as funniest, longest, most comtroversial? It would be great to roll some of those out of the archives once in awhile just to remind us of how stupid, funny, wrong or correcdt we were, kinda like in the good ole Bordson days.
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The Kings should erect a statue of Bordson in front of Staples before the Lakers give one to Kareem. Now that would really frost Kareem’s huevos!
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Rich, can you tell us when Bordson’s book is being released?
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I just can’t really get used to the idea that the Bordson era is actually over. We get so comfortable with a routine, ya know, and you take those days for granted when your languishing in that sweet spot of golden time, but when it really is over sudeenly it seems like the whole thing went by in just a few days.
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Thats 25 goals “over a two year period”
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Rob who?
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In the ALMOST RELEVANT NEWS category:
Today, Mike Richards (@mrichie18) tweeted: “Really starting to get annoyed by everyone keep saying to me that ‘it’s just business’ ” 1 hour ago via iPhone
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:15 am
@Eric K, Wait til Willie Mitchell and Rob Scuderi start using their sticks on him in practice, and blanketing him like a cheap suit, that will REALLY annoy him !
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnywlzr7Y1o
For you Bordson…for you.
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In the COMPLETELY RELEVANT NEWS category:
Rob Bordson is expected to be honored at the second home game of the season, LAkings.com reports. He will come out on a red carpet to drop the ceremonial first puck before the home game vs. the Buffalo Sabres. Around that time, Buffalo goaltender Ryan Miller will stumble on the carpet, suffering a strained hip flexor.
Thanks for your service, Robbie.
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Ryan Lambert of Yahoo Sports on the winners and losers of the NHL draft.
Los Angeles Kings: Winners, even if they had drafted no people. Getting someone — anyone — to take Ryan Smyth’s $6.25 million cap hit off their hands is some kind of magic. Between this and the Mike Richards(notes) trade, I’m starting to think Dean Lombardi has turned to blackmail after picking up a backwards K with the Kovalchuk fiasco last year.
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:20 am
@Osaka, Looks like were not the only one’s who think Dean knows what he’s doing !
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Rob Bordson. A freak of nature.. Truly an astonishing and unique athletic specimen.
http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/sports/sports-zone/Interview-Former-Bulldog-Rob-Bordson-122395824.html
As far as ‘hockey smarts’.. (can you say, pet rock?) gKg!
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If the clock strikes to signal the start of free agent signing and we learn that Deano has found a way to bag Brad Richards, then not only will I jump for joy, I will kick everyone of my ticket partners out of my share to be at every game. Just sayin’. Hey guys, you are on notice.
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:18 am
@Krusher, Brad Richards is not the guy I am targeting, I would rather have Parise or Stastny on the top line. That being said, if Brad Richards signs here, I will join you in booting them out of their seats ! Hell, I will cry all the way to will call at Staples !
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OK, over 230 posts on this non-story? As your attorney, Rich, I’d have to advise you to start putting together a 12-step program to offer some remedial opportunity to the folks who can’t back away from their keyboards this summer.
I guess this is all the wake from Mr. Lombardi’s wild ride. Finish strong DL, your fans are already primed to blow the roof off the Staples Center on Opening Night.
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SLIM Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
@Kenny44, I’m a member of Rob Bordson Anonymous…
I’m on the 1st step…If you need help just reach out to me..
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
@SLIM, My Bordson Buddy!
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I just rec’d a tweet that Rob Bordson announced from Iowa that he will run for Office of these United States of America (now that the Space Shuttle has flown its last mission). Gawd, this guy just keeps on giving! Don’t make ‘em like that anymore I tell ya! Just a Congressional Hall of Famer he is…..
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LBlocal Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Breaking news. The Iranian government has allowed Rob Bordson to fly on the Kavoshgar-5 rocket, forgoing their plan to send a chimp in his place.
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Dominick Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
@LBlocal,
That chimp wasn’t a chimp, it was Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
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Michael J. Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
@Dominick,
Nice.
vplaza Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
@crashin’ da net,
He’s figured out how to fix the deficit by using his well-known technique of addition by subtraction.
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i would have liked to see him at least get some sort of a chance. but i guess we dont need any of his extra cap so nevermind.
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Getting an eerie feeling about Burke and Toronto…. We better lock up Doughty soon;(
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Dominick Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
@Before99,
Let’em, at least the price will be set, and we can spend the rest of the summer going about our buisness.
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jet Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
@Before99, here is one metric, http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=10465
Drew is 21, just after Giordono at 4 Mil per.
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Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:05 am
@jet, Bieksa is 39 and just signed for 4 mill. DD’s GVT is closer to Boyle, and chara, and their signed at 6.6, and 6.9 respectively. DD should be at least 5 mill at the low end.
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Osaka Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:48 am
@Dominick, Bob McKenzie seems to think DD is seeking Kopi numbers 6.8 mil.
Stagger Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:31 am
@Dominick,
Bieksa is 29
CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:51 am
@Osaka, WOW, that’s too much IMO. I would think 6 million would be the max, and that’s for a long term deal like 8 years. Here’s some other top d-men’s salary cap hits and ages.
Marc Stall – 3.975 – 24
Jack Johnson – 4.357 – 24
Mike Green – 5.250 – 25
Ryan Suter – 3.5 – 26
Brent Burns – 3.55 – 26
Tobias Enstrom – 3.75 – 26
Dustin Byfuglien – 5.2 – 26
Brent Seabrook – 5.8 – 26
Dion Phaneuf – 6.5 – 26
Duncan Keith – 5.538 – 27
Jay Bouwmeester – 6.680 – 27
Lubomir Visnovsky – 5.6 -34
Dan Boyle – 6.666 – 34
Zdeno Chara – 6.916 – 34
Nicklas Lidstrom – 6.2 – 41
While not all of them are at DD’s level, and some are under paid, it’s pretty obvious to me that at age 21, Drew’s cap hit shouldn’t be the same as guys like Boyle and Chara. Phanuef was 23 when he signed his deal, and his point totals have declined every year since signing that big contract. I hope that doesn’t happen to DD, but it wouldn’t shock me if he did take the same path as Phaneuf. Also keep in mind that while Drew was a Norris finalist 2 years ago, he was only 24th in scoring last year, right behind JJ who just signed a 7 year deal that averages 4.357. I’m thinking either a short term deal of 2 years for 10 million, or a 6 year deal at about 33 million. But I could be way off, I’m simply a fan.
Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:23 am
@Stagger,
John Carlson is 29. Bieksa is 39.
Stagger Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
@Dominick,
We are talking about his age, right?
Bieksa just turned 30 a couple weeks ago.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8469598#&navid=nhl-keymatch
Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
@Stagger,
No we’re talking about where his position is on the article Jet linked.
Hopefully Rich’ll keep us updated on when the team will be honoring Rob, I’d make serious effort to get out there for it. Of course, with the way the job market is looking, I might be hitchiking, jumping an elderly fan for a ticket, and sleeping on a park bench. But after everything Bordson did for us, I think that’s a fair price to pay.
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what is going with DOUGHTY?i hope he isnt asking for a ridiculous amount of money, like come on dude you just had a crappy year so i still dont think he is entitled to a big raise. i just looked at tsn defenseman rankings and DD is all the way down to 22. yes yes im sure those rankings are based on last year’s performance but still 22? there are about 3 to 5 other dman that are way above him on the rankings that i never heard of…..so come on dd dont let grid set in and think you’re all that yet, you are a gret player but still have lots to prove……
go kings go
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Investigators find out that Bordson was the one who convinced Frank McCourt to file for Chapter 11 for the Dodgers. News at 11.
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Press release via lakings.com..
The ceremony to retire Bordson’s jersey will take place November 23, 2011 before the game against Philly. There will be a lengthy pre-game ceremony including speeches by Gretzky, Luc, Taylor and of course the man that brought the incredible Bordson to LA, Deano Lombardi. Your efforts will forever be remembered!
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And here I was thinking Bordson would have been wearing the C in Manchester next season.
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Rich, I hava a bit of a complaint. I’m out here for about 10 days from the east coast. I should be practicing my guitar right now, but no, I’m reading all this high level stuff on our beloeved blog. But I suppose that’s not a bad thing either. Can you imagine if a blog took itself too seriously?
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mash-ola Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
@number 6, His name was Robert Bordson… His name was Robert Bordson…
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Ravens Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
@number 6, I stop pricticing my Telecaster and P-Bass when the trade season begins and until the Kings are finished shopping, for some reason it sucks more time out of me then the regualr season, oh and then there’s camp,,,,the season seem s so easy in retrospect, may Mikas or Bordson will give us mega chops for a small sacrafice
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nykingfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:14 am
@number 6,
I hope you’re enjoying your time out there buddy!
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number 6 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
@nykingfan,
Thanks NYKF!!
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Bordson’s stats weren’t very impressive as a King, but what do you expect for someone playing under Terry Murray’s system?
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CB14 Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
@Jon G, LOL!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
@Jon G,
But he had a heavy shot.
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Jon G Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:25 am
@Kingsfanone, His dot-to-dot play was good, but his dot-to-board play was even better. He didn’t have a very active stick, as far as I could tell.
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:05 am
@Jon G, you guys crack me up!
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Buster Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:44 am
@Jon G,
Also seems like Kompon’s PP strategy was his kryptonite.
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i say we all sign a petition to get his jersey up in the rafters with other king greats.
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All hope is not completely lost. If the Kings are ever in trouble, all you have to do is flash the Bordson signal into the night sky, and like a caped crusader, he will come and save the day.
He truely is our Batman. Never seen, never heard, but his presence is everywhere.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:17 am
@KingsFanInPortland,
And along with his young ward, Juras Mikus……….
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:06 am
@DesertKing, so who is batman, and who is robin?
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
@KingsFanInPortland,
Well their identities are actually secret, but if you ask me, Bordson is actually Bruce Wayne, and his often invisible but always trustworthy sidekick is Dick Grayson, aka Juras Mikus. The real questions is, who is Alfred?
Rob Bordson is turning in to a popular player! There should be a “Bord-son, Bord-son” chant for the home games next year! haha
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Scratch Laich off the list of potentials.
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On to the Bord-walk…
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Off topic (which is pretty hard to do), Ian Laperiere talks about Mike Richards, Dutin Brown and Kyle Clifford on Mayors manor http://www.mayorsmanor.com/2011/06/flyers-ian-laperriere-on-mike-richards.html#more
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jet Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:35 am
@Ravens, I have a buddy in Quebec who says our third rounder is a like Lappy with a little less spit.
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Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:51 am
@Ravens,
Love Lappy!
I’m still not convinced Clifford (who might be an emotional favorite) has the proper skill set to compliment Brown, and Richards. That would seem like a waist, because that limmits that line to being just a crash and bang line. That line will have a higher skill set than just that, and should be used for scoring. It needs someone who can negotiate their way through traffic, and get the puck through to Richards who will be crashing the net and Brown who will be looking for fat rebounds beyond the crease. He should also have enough speed to attack the crease, when Brown takes perimeter shots coming down the right side.
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crashin' da net Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:23 am
@Dominick, once again, you are corect sir!
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kevin from toronto Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
@Dominick, replace Clifford with Lewis and you’ve got yourself a line!
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BobKnob Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
@Dominick,
I’m not convinced Cliffy doesn’t have the skill set, either. He’ll show what he’s got in camp and I’m sure the coaches will make a good decision and put him where he deserves to go…
…And then change their minds…
…Again, and again, and again, and again…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
@Dominick,
I love that ‘waist’ reference…
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Brooks Laich just resigned with the caps…What does anyone think of Eric Cole? He might be a good mid-range pick up. I think he had 26 goals in 70 something games.
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 am
@Cry Baby,
Erik Cole would certainly increase the team’s speed, but I’m not sure he’s durable from an injury standpoint. Still, he could be a good addition. I think that’s probably the direction they’ll be looking at… not a huge UFA like B. Richards, but a mid-range guy like an Erik Cole, or a Tomas Kopecky (if Florida can’t manage to sign him in three days, but they did trade for his rights, so they really want him). They say it’s not a great FA class this year, but there are a handful of good, mid-level wingers this time around worth considering.
First thing’s first, though: They HAVE to sign Drew Doughty before Friday. Even with a huge amount of cap space opened up by the Smyth trade, they don’t want another team dictating the terms of his contract with an offer sheet.
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KingMe20 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:40 am
@KingMe20,
Another name I’d watch for: Joel Ward. Had a great playoff for the Preds, and would be an excellent fit in the now-vacated RW slot on the third line. He could probably be acquired for a reasonable price.
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mash-ola Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@KingMe20, Speed??? He’s an older, slower grinder… I don’t see him as a speed guy, and I didn’t know he was on the block as I thought he was happy to be back in Carolina after a tour of duty with the Oil. Still, depending on his salary, he could be a guy the Kings could use…
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rick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:19 am
@Cry Baby, Too bad about Laich. Excellent player and would have been a solid addition. I have a feeling that Lombardi is going to pursue a trade rather than a FA signing. He still has lots of “assets” to offer (JJ, anyone?) and with the already weak roster of LW’s further depleted with Smyth’s departure, I have to believe he is looking for an upgrade.
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So I was just driving along in LA near Staples the other day and I saw this these 2 guys walking along in the rain (in June, in LA). They looked like they needed some help so I stopped and offered them a ride. They got in and guess who they were? Yeah, how did you guess? It was Robert Bordson and another guy named Fraser!! They were really polite and needed a ride to the airport so I helped them out. I asked them if I could have some back-stage passes to their next concert, but they said they didn’t have any since they gave their last free set to some guy named Brule. On a side note, I was having a great time at the Angels game last night until Cryin’ Perry came out in his Smuck’s jersey to throw the first pitch. The game got better when a guy sat down in the row behind us and was wearing his Kings cap. Can’t wait for the season to start
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:55 am
@DesertKing, that was awesome!
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Jeez, I hope this will be the last season Andrew Campbell is in the organization, he has improved but……
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:54 am
@SJP, somewhere along those lines…the Kings payed Ponikarovsky $640,000 per goal this past season. His career low in points since being a full time NHL’er.
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SJP Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@Sebastian,
I agree with you on that one. Last season I had Fro flashbacks when Poni was playing.
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
@SJP, fro would have been an upgrade…assuming he wasnt injured. i think he scored almost 20 his last season with the kings.
Rich,
Any inside info on Richardson? Will he be back for another year? … and if so, the length of his contract?
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:23 am
@Tom, he was given a qualifying offer by the Kings yesterday meaning he will remain a restricted free agent and i believe he is eligible for arbitration. if Richardson didnt like his offer, he can request salary arbitration by July 5th
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What direction do you guys see DL take? As far as going out and trying to sign someone come July 1st, there isnt many options. Out of all the names we have talked about UFA wise, Laich was the most the best looking name, along side with Jussi Jokinen. Laich just resigned a deal so that puts him away, and i dont think DL would be to aggressive over Jussi.
With the way its been going, why doesnt DL trade Bernier this season. Obviously all the talk about the future is now, and Quick is our boy, and our boy to be. Bernier is a another sexy trade bait, and we could maybe add that star studded winger with one more good package. Sign a new mid range UFA goalie (Theodore , Roloson , whoever) as backup. Unless Jones was ready for a shot?
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:36 am
@Michael_DD8, no need to trade bernier yet. hes very cheap and is under contract for another 2 seasons, and then becomes RFA. I see lombadi doing what he said he would do…go after a “mid-range” free agent (i would guess left winger) to fill ryan smyths position, and then i believe he will call it a day.
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:12 am
@Sebastian, Great point. Bernier doesnt get traded unless Parise and his agent decide to do a long term deal before Lou trades him here. No way Lombardi trades Bernier for a rental player.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:30 am
@puck73,
parise is the only one that I would consider using Bernier as trade bait for, but as you said, it would have to be a sign-and-trade deal. Of course, Bernier alone would not be enough to land Parise so we would have to part with someone else, like Fraser or quickly sign Bordson and send him to NJ
crashin' da net Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:27 am
@Michael_DD8, Also, ICBW but I think it is a buyers’ market for goalies right now.
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nykingfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
@Michael_DD8,
I agree he’s the player that would bring back the most, but I always fear the injury..especially to the goalie.
God forbid if JQ got hurt and was out for the season, I’d have a lot more confidence that our season wouldn’t go down the toilet bowl with Bernier in the fold.
The other names really don’t inspire much confidence..even Rolosn, who I thought had a career year.
Philly might have been the best team in the East last season, but having no goalie undermined their chances.
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Michael J. Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
@nykingfan,
Have the Kings ever had two quality goalies on the roster at one time in their history?
Having Bernier on the roster is a greater asset than what his value in a trade would be, at least for now. Should he play another 25-30 games this year and do very well, then the Kings will be in position to get maximum value for him in a trade. He just hasn’t proven all that much on the NHL level yet.
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
@Michael J., Vachon and Edwards is the last I can remember.
Kenny44 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
@Michael J., Wouldn’t hold my breath on getting great trade value for Bernier. Somebody mentioned Stauber on this thread. He’s a good precedent. He played about 25-30 games in 93 as backup to Hrudey, had a good season and was the goalie of the future (former Hobey Baker winner). But he was exposed in the expansion draft and not even taken.
PP Anybody? Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
@Michael_DD8, I too was mulling this over today at work. With Laich getting signed, and Carolina being so under the cap that they almost have to sign Jokinen just to get to the cap floor, it’s either Upshall or Gagne, or a trade. I like Upshall, not to hot on Gagne. But other than that, I was thinking along the lines of a Bernier+ package, for perhaps Semin.
Now hear me out. I know there is some skepticism about his game, but the numbers prove he his one of the elite wingers in the game today, in his prime. Imagine Semin alongside Kopitar or Richards! Our top 6 would be reeeally strong. Both Kopi and Richards play better defensively than anyone on the caps so I’d think that would help Semin’s game too. Washington just signed Laich, and Semin has always seemed to be on the verge of being let go by them. His cap hit is high(6.7M), but it’s only for this year. That being said, I wouldn’t give up the whole farm for what could be a one year rental, but the wheels are already turning and this could be the year to pull all the stops. I think Dean pretty much left open just about that much cap space to make another impact signing, and well, I think it’s definitely something to strongly consider.
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Depending on medical clearance, what do you think about Tomas Fleischmann?
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:09 am
@lazyone213, I like Fleischmann alot, he can definately find the back of the net. Question is, does he have a good 2 way game? because you know TM and DL will be expecting that.
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Brooks Laich resigned with the Caps…i know he’s a different player and could’ve been a UFA…but c’mon Drew, get ‘ur dun! that being said, the fact that they’re talking real numbers (according to Hammer’s quote from an earlier post) is super good news…assuming both sides are being constructive)
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Mikey Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:09 am
@Shakes, This is why i appreciate JJ so much. No agent, no BS. The kid just wants to play hockey. DD on the other hand, considering his last season.. should just focus on upping his game rather than squeezing this or-gan-i-zation of our greenbacks.
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gmo Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:16 am
@Mikey,
bingo…..plus agennt will always try get as much from gms as they get a cut off it….pls pls dd sign
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nykingfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:17 am
@Mikey,
Woul you settle for anything your company offers you, or would you look to get as much as you can from you employer if that was possible?
We’re fans and it’s a passion of ours, but this is a business for the owners/agents (players)
JJ got a fair contract, but I somehow doubt that he wasn’t looking for more..the same as DL looking to give less.
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Mikey Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:24 am
@nykingfan,
You’re right.. but this is my passion. i’ve had a lot of emotions invested in this team since i was 4. And, like my girl friend, when emotions are invested, all logic and rationality momentary go out the window.
It’s funny. I can lose her and not bat an eye, but the trade of Sims left me heart broken.
You’re right, bud. You pragmatic, you..
nykingfan Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Mikey Reply:
I hate being pragmatic…
I’m a passionate fan who only wants the best for the Kings. I need to get a life. I live and die with each game. the wife is a distant afterthought lol
the Simmer loss hurts a lot. He quickly became my favorite player. If he gets back to playing the way he was before last season, Flyer fans are going to love him.
I’ll get over it as soon as Richards takes the ice the 1st time
Shotongoal Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
@Mikey, I don’t think its a matter of “squeezing” when a player is on the cusp of superstardom at his age, and as far as focusing on his upping his game, name me 5 D-men in the NHL who you would rather have, based on their play last season? He should get what the fair market value is, and the Kings should be willing to pay it, IMO. Now, I would have a problem with this whole nego thing with Doughty if he is playing games and not really committed to being a member of the Kings for a long period of his career. I hope that’s not the case though…..I guess we will all know by Friday!
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KC23 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:26 am
@Shakes, Nothing Dean can do about a player who resigns before July 1st. Nothing.
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Shakes Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:58 am
@KC23, Yeah, agreed KC23, and it looks like Deano is doing everything he should be (and frankly Drew’s agent seems to be doing the same – so to nykingfan’s point, it’s all good). I feel like it’s just a matter of when a deal gets sorted out. I suppose on my Kings summer calendar this is the next big things to sort out.
My complete Summer Kings to-do list:
1) Drew resigns for nice long contract
2) interested to see which mid-level UFA forward we sign
3) convincing GF to come to Berlin for Kings/Sabres (this looks to be the closest on the list of things that will happen…however i may have to sacrifice the Stockholm game)
4) somehow convince gf that germany trip is her xmas present.
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tornado12 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
@Shakes, good luck with number 4 shakes…
Mikey Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
@Shakes, Tell her you’re stopping in Spain, England and Paris. Tell her “maybe the pilot forgot” while you’re flying over them.
DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
@Shakes,
Tell her Luis Vitton comes from there (well, at least from the country next door). Whatever you do, don’t let her watch the movie “Beerfest” before you go.
Mikey Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@Shakes, I say we ditch the GF’s and we all go. All i ask for is a quick detour to Amsterdam’s redlight district.
PaganHagen Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
@Shakes, And Octoberfest
Meanwhile, POS didn’t get a “qualifying offer” for restricted free agency. There’s a DL move that worked out.
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Alright Rich, what’s up with Doughty? Any word yet? I figured we would hear SOMETHING by now, anything really.
Thanks for all you do. =)
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
@Brownkingsfan, Bob McKenzie at TSN says Doughty is looking to get at least what Kopitar makes average 6.7m per year.
Thats a little steep drew! Someone show the kid tape of the play his buddy Couture made in the playoffs against him to score. Drew is a great player and has a potential to be a superstar but he aint one yet. hes still young and has a LOT to learn.
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vplaza Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@Sebastian,
Man, I hope that’s not true that he’s asking for that type of money. He definitely didn’t play at a level deserving of that last year.
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Mikey Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@Sebastian, as much as Kopi? Kopi played better D than DD did last season. na-na-na-na, hey hey hey, goodbye!
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rick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
@Sebastian, I would have to think long and hard about signing Doughty for that kind of money. He is a terrific talent, but has some serious growing up to do and hasn’t yet proven he can be a superstar year in and year out. Doughty for Stamkos anyone?
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bfarm Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
@rick,
then who is gonna play D??
definitely not drewiske… we’d give up all we worked for on the back end according to dean lombardi’s master plan
hmmm maybe voynov will get some ice time next year
Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
@rick, Yes! No way the Lightening make that trade tho. Stamkos is far more valuable. DD is worth 4.5-5.5M per year, not Kopi money.
Shotongoal Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
@Sebastian, I figured right around 6 mil avg per yr…..Kopi money is a little too much! Doesn’t mean they should even think about trading him though. It may be a gamble that backfires if he and Meehan hold to that figure (if its reliable scoop). I can’t see many teams that can throw an offer sheet to him worth that type of money…..Who knows though, crazier things have happened.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@Sebastian, Speaking money, six time Norris trophy winner Nik Lidstrom makes $6.2M. DD didn’t make the all star team! Give me a break wanting $6.7M!
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
@Brownkingsfan, And the previous Norris winner in 2010- Duncan Keith has a cap hit of $5.5M
Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
@Sebastian, Word.
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Bluecoconuts Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
@Brownkingsfan, I bet he signs Thursday afternoon.
Speaking of Brown (well your username) did you see that Eklund is trying to say there are rumors of him going to Toronto…. What a joke…
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 7:18 am
@Bluecoconuts, Haha, I like when people start rumors. Just for the record, my last name is Brown too.
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Guess Rich will be here soon with his HHOF Blog input. Congratz to BELFOUR, GILMOUR, NIEUWENDYK, and HOWE. I can still see Gilmour’s face when the Kimgs took Toronto in seven games on their home ice. It was a great time to be a Kings fan just as it is now. Go Kings go
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king_stoner Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
@OnTheFly,
BELFOUR, GILMOUR, NIEUWENDYK i can understand but i think howe could have been passed on for someone else like Phil Housley or Dave Andreychuk.
just my opinion though.
go kings go
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
@OnTheFly, is Guilmore still crying about the Gretzky high stick?
you know youre getting old-er when the guys you grew up watching are getting into the Hall of Fame.
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
@Sebastian, The scar from Gretzky’s high stick is the only justification to allow that lowlife into the Hall of Fame. Gilmour’s HOF bust will be adorned with a chrome arrow (emblazoned with a black “99″) pointed at the underside of his chin.
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tim chaney Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
@OnTheFly, sweet dougie… LOL
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Terry Murray is doing a conferance call with Hacksaw on sports radio XX1090 at the bottom of the hour PST. Here’s the link http://www.xxsportsradio.com/pages/xx1090_listen_live_streaming_player
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@Dominick, thanks. tuned in just in time
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
@Dominick, TM mentioned Zues as 4th center and was pumping up DD for bounce back season. Interesting given the contract sitch.
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
@Kenny44, wow, really? where would that leave lewis and stoll? i would have put a lot of money on the kings letting zeus walk. i probably still would.
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@Sebastian, TM was talking about matching up with the Sharks forwards and how the Kings had a problem “answering the bell” in that series. He then went through the centers in the order of Kopitar, Richards, Stoll, and Zeus and said that with that group the Kings could match up well with anyone.
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@Kenny44, I hope your right about Zues as the 4th line center. In the previous post i went out on a limb and predicted he would be back……just had a feeling i guess. I love Zues and would also love for him to be aking at least another year.
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mash-ola Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
@Dominick, Wow… Uncle Saw is still alive??? I wondered where he went… Is The Stinkin’ genius Arnie Spanier there, too???
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Poor Simmonds – still looks shell shocked! http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370271
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bfarm Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
@dMan,
Yea that really hurts to look at..
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
@dMan, he does not look happy.
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Who Knows? Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
@Stuart, He looks happy here.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/photo;_ylt=Auc4yjPR0MHnUpK7wmr16nN7vLYF?slug=ap-201106281249461900041
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@Who Knows?, true that!!! Good for Simmers…
jet Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
@dMan, He is going to be on a great team. my family back there says they already have a contract to give to Stamos. Thus the reason they needed to move Richards
Plus he will have a shot at the second line there.
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CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
@jet, Stamos? Wow thats surprising. I would have thought if they were going to sign someone from Full House it would’ve been Dave Coulier. He played a defenseman in high school if I remember correctly. I guess Philly liked Uncle Jesse more than Uncle Joey.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
@CB14, lol. Nice.
dMan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
@jet, true. I wish him the best. he’s young, has a great career ahead of him. Any team would be happy to have him. Glad he’s going to a team that can compete.
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Very excited about this season.
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DBking Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
@RobBordson, Hey! Rich banned me for weeks because I used multiple names! not fair!
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DBking Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
@DBking, just kidding of course
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
@RobBordson, Now that you’re an ex-player, you can join the blog. That’s awesome!
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Guss Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
@Kenny44, lol this blog is hilarious.
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rontheking Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
@RobBordson, You should at least be given free season tickets….
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Sebastian Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
@RobBordson, whos gonna be the first one to get the Bordson jersey?
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vplaza Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
@RobBordson,
Quick, you need to call Philly to tell them that the Kings haven’t received the bag of pucks that was coming along with you in the trade.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
@RobBordson,
Still waiting for my concert tickets.
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Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@RobBordson,
Anahiem said they were wondering where you’ve been. You went to the liquor store and never came back.
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Hey kings fans!
I was just on the nhl website and came across this article where Dave Lozo predicts where he thinks FA will go (dont know how reliable he is) but he says Simone Gange will end up singning in Los Angeles.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=567543&navid=mod-rr-headlines
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If I was a Kings draft pick, free agent, restricted free agent, I would show no loyality to the organization. No matter who the gm or coach of this team is, they don’t get a rat’s ass who you are! They will give you the games and time (ten games with ten minutes of ice time) to show what you can do NHL level! I have watched time and time again trade fan favorites, use players incorrectly, and not give players the chance to succeed!!! If I was drafted by the Kings, a free agent restricted or unrestricted, an undrafted free agent I would not sign with the Kings. I would rather go play in Europe or the KHL if no spots were available on any other NHL team rosters! Sadly, most teams operate the same way as the King’s organization, but that doesn’t make it right! I have been a fan ever since I was introduced to hockey in 1987, in Canoga Park, CA. If you do not know where that is, it is in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles. Anyway, I am sick and disgusted at the way this team treats and avaluates it’s prospects and players!
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Seems up in Edmonton they do know of the LA Kings Insider and “CHERRY PICKED” a lot of anti Smyth comments to make it look like all now hate him.
http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2011/06/27/la-kings-fans-react-to-smyths-explanation-he-lied-to-us/
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Mikey Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
@JWR, Wow, great find!
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CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
@JWR, wow they used my response, I feel honored, NOT. I hate that they showed like 6 negative responses towards Smyth, and only 3 positive responses of him when the responses on this site were approximatly 70 for, 30 against.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@JWR, They did this twice. Once when it was rumored he wanted out and now that he’s gone. Its terrible. I think quite a few people still have a great deal of respect for him and are happy to see him back where he wants to be. Crazy canadaian media is making Kings fans look bad.
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Kenny44 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
@JWR, I think we’ve all missed an important factor in the Smyth Saga. Canada obviously takes hockey way too seriously. It’s like their religion – just ask ‘em. “Captain Canada” is one of their high priests. If you recall, Smyth didn’t look none too happy the night he was “honored” by his teammates goofing on his mullet with outlandish wigs during pre-game warmups. Remember that? Sure, he played along at the time, to be a good teammate. But I can see Cardinal Smyth thinking to himself that in LA (or NY, or Col.), hockey is more of a sideshow and isn’t afforded the proper measure of devotion. I think that apostasy was part of the “comfort issue” for him.
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vplaza Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
@Kenny44,
LOL @ the mullet gag pushing him and his family over the edge. Crazy Canadians.
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Hesperia STH Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@JWR, Yeah!!! I’m international baby! Thanks Rich (or the webmaster) for removing my original comment, which was over emotional and quite inmature.
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Hesperia STH Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
@Hesperia STH, In all honesty I do respect the man, but I think that he could’ve stuck it out one more year. That’s what leaders do. I’m hoping that this is a blessing in disguise (which I do) and we get someone younger, faster, and…oh yeah…someone who actually wants to be here (family included).
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HESPERIA STH Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
@Big Plans, Thanks I didn’t notice . I’ll take it. Edmonton now thinks I live in the STD capital of Cali.
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The longer these DD contract negotiations drag on the more I am thinking i wouldnt mind letting doughty go (ok……..Im ready for the back lash)! DD is an awesome player and will only get better with age but i think he will not sign a long term deal unless he gets stupid money or the same as some elite players in this league.From a reading a post above he is apparently asking for what Kopi makes. Seriously? DD has not shown that he can be consistant enough at this point to deserve or warrant that kind of money at the moment. I feel like our Defense is still one of the best in the league even without DD and we could use the $ to pick up a consistant proven offensive threat that would ease or way that much more into becoming a cup contender for years. I think we should sign doughty to a short term deal like maybe 2 or 3 years with a cap hit of about a 4-4.6 mil and see if he progresses to be the player everyone believes he can be. If he does that then lets lock him up for the long haul and show him the $. Until then I think DD is expendable even though he is a premier youngter.
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, I’m starting to feel the same way. The shame of all this is that DD shot hiimself in the foot by playing as poorly as he did. Granted, it was a poor showing to his standard (and I’m aware that one brilliant year hardly sets a standard) but it seemed like a let down. Had he come out with another Norris-worthy year, we’d all be pitching in to make it a 10M/year for 20 years no questions asked… Aside from the 2-3 goals he personally saved I’d agree that we’d be solid without him on the back end and still be able to pursue top end Offense.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
@Stuart, Im really surprised no one has scoulded me yet on this! i thought for sure i would have been branded as the anti christ for this post but thats not the case.
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, this thought of letting DD go has been broached for at least the last 4-5 hammond posts… several people had been crucified, buried and risen so now I think it doesn’t sound as heretical as it did initially. Whatever happens, I think it will happen soon…
SLIM Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
@BrokeKingsFan,
OK…I’t official I’m scalding you…You should be ashamed of what you said…
Feel better now….I enjoy you and your posts BUT I completely disagree with
this sentiment…DD’S off year is better than mosts best years….
If he leaves and when he puts up BIG numbers against us….
You will be screaming bloody murder…He’s a hockey savant…
CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, I tried to call you that as a joke, but something wouldn’t allow it. I don’t think it was Rich because I never saw it on the site. I think it was my computer’s way of telling me to never type the words A-C. So I won’t. But just know that I am thinking that way about you. LOL! JK of course.
CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, As much as I love DD, he’s not worth Kopi money. I’m with you that I would give Drew a 2 year deal at 4.5 to 5 million per year and go from there. If he regains his form from 2 years ago then he gets his 7 year 49 million dollar deal, but not until he proves it for another year or two.
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gmo Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
@BrokeKingsFan,
i agree with you, if a deal cant be reached trade him. plus i imagine we would get a lot back in a trade for him. yes dd is a great player but i just hope he is not asking for a crazy amount of money. he is worth 5mill per year to me, he hasnt yet stablished himself as a player for more money than that….i just hope he knows that and isnt just after the money but who knows
go kigns go
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Matt R Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, I agree that he shot himself in the foot, and I agree that he may want more than he currently deserves, but I don’t agree that we should let him go. I wouldn’t mind seeing him signed to a DKeith type contract: pays him boatloads of money, but only a cap hit around 5.5. If he wants more, then yeah, a 2-3 year deal for less and tell him to prove he deserves more. Unless DD is just being completely unreasonable (possible), we need to find a way to sign him short or long term. This isn’t the kind of player you want to let go.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, I agree with you too. A short term deal might leave doubts as to whether he should stay here long term. We all know the potential he has, but he certainly didn’t put the work in last year… In what he knew was a contract year. I say let the offer sheets come in. Wait until after July 1st. I doubt any team will offer him Kopi money based on last year’s performance. DD has a work ethic problem only he can fix. He needs to quit clubbing with puck bunnies, and start working out with Clifford. That is all!
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gmo Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
@Brownkingsfan,
oh i can see other teams paying him KOPI money just to steal him away, and that would be wrong. he still needs to prove himself but some teams will pay whatever it takes just to get a player, that is why there are so many player making money they should not me making. but that is the gms faul, sometimes they over evaluate players….i realy want him back in LA but if he cant be done, trade him. at the end i care about the LA KINGS as a team not individuals
go kings go
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vplaza Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
@Brownkingsfan,
Well, the sad thing is there are probably teams out there who would overpay to get him. His potential is simply too tempting for some GM who is looking for that last piece of the puzzle. I’m pretty sure someone’s willing to take a chance.
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vplaza Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@BrokeKingsFan,
I wouldn’t characterize him as expendable, just not untouchable. Like many, I was disappointed to see how he came into camp out of shape, how he played the preseason, and then the first part of the season until he got injured. After that, he played average, but maybe some of that were the effects of the injury and some of it not being in camp in the best condition.
In any case, in what was his contract year, he played below the level he set the prior year. One bad season shouldn’t necessarily define him, but one good season shouldn’t make him feel that he is already an elite player that deserves elite money.
Reality should set in for both sides, where DD realizes that he didn’t give his best performance last year and DL realizes he has a potential great player in front of him. There should be some common ground there where he’s not paid elite money but more than an average player.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
@vplaza, ill go with not untouchable! maybe axpandable was a little off track. I hope all parties can agree to something that is beneficial for all involved including us fans.
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, Havent forgot about you. Are you going to frozen fury ?
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Miohael_DD8 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, Drew Doughty expendable? If you consider Drew Doughty expendable, might as well say Kopitar is too.
Ovechkin, Crosby , Lidstrom all expendable players? No.
You dont get rid of these guys for almost any reason. The talent in Drew Doughty is SO hard to come by, and would be almost impossible to replace.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
@Miohael_DD8, i admitted earlier in a resonse to vplaza that expandable was off track. At least for the moment i would not put DD in the list of players you mentioned. Maybe one day in the near future but not yet. He has the potential for sure he just needs to be more consistant.
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
@puck73, hey buddy! Im gonna do my best to be there. Oct 1st is one of my really good friends B-day and i have to convince her to let me slide this year and make it up to her. I have never had the pleasure of a pre-season game and in Vegas of all places it should a win win situation to say the least(lets hope at the tables as well). Ill keep you updated!
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jet Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, take her, oh, youre broke
puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, Here’s my gmail…mikebrnstn@gmail.com
BringBackKingston Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, while I’m not necessarily saying that DD should get Kopi money, but DD asking for a similar contract shouldn’t make him persona non grata. First, it is hard to make a direct comparison between the two because of the position each plays.
That being said there are some similarities between the trajectory of Kopi and DD, which makes it easier for DD to allegedly ask for top pay. Kopi’s contract was about signing potential. You can’t look at the player Kopi has become, but rather must look at him as he was in 2008. Kopi was a highly skilled offensive rookie. When he signed his contract, he had played 2 seasons with the kings. His second season he scored more than his first. Kopi was the definition of a rising star, but he was not yet a complete or elite player. Remember that in his 3rd year Kopi took a dive points-wise. Actually, from a points perspective, he has been up and down each year. Kopi had to learn how to play strong positional defensive hockey. From a conditioning point of view, I think DL said this past season was the first time he was at the level he should be, but he is still not yet at an elite conditioning level. Basically when Kopi signed his contract, he was a work in progress, and thankfully he has now matured into one of the top two-way centers in the league.
There are strong parallels to DD. DD is a highly skilled player. He scored more in his 2nd season but took a dive in his 3rd year. DD could use some work on his defensive play. He is not at an elite conditioning level. DD can point out that even in a lousy season he was still 10th in the Norris trophy voting.
He is not a complete player yet, but just as Kopi was paid based on his potential, DD is asking to be paid based on his potential. I think for contract purposes, DD’s last season doesn’t really alter the value of the contract significantly. Now what that value is a different topic.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
@BringBackKingston, Touche!
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J. Jokinen signed a 3 year deal with Carolina. Scratch him from the shopping list.
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CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@friarking, Damn, all of our options at LW are slipping away. This isn’t good.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@friarking, Damn!
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Gary livingston Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@friarking,
They signed Joni pitkanen. Not jokinen.
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CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
@Gary livingston, Phew.
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Stuart Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
@Gary livingston, phew!!! Had to 2x check that one myself. I’m still hoping for some Jussi.
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PK Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
@Gary livingston, Silly Fins all look and sound the same
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friarking Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
@Gary livingston, HAHA, My bad. I always confuse the two of them when playing NHL10.
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Rumor: Dustin Brown to Toronto (e3)
hahahaha
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
@Tito Jackson, Ecklund, yep I heard. lol
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jet Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
@Tito Jackson, for what, there whole team?
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
@jet, How bout you, will you be at frozen Fury jet ?
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39scars Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:37 am
@puck73, I’m trying to arrange it
jet Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:52 am
@puck73, I am there. sounds like scars and broke will be there. I can hardly wait.
KingsFanFTW Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@Tito Jackson, lol wow i say go for it we can have all the Leafs players they can keep Brownie be 100% fair for us
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Crickets chirping on this blog….tick tock tick tock.
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vplaza Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
@Cup B4 I Die,
That’s the moment of silence the blog has done in honor of Bordson’s departure.
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Buster Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:08 am
@vplaza,
I don’t blame him for leaving us because our new logo is too ugly for him.
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CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
@Cup B4 I Die, Rich needed a day to recooperate after losing Bordson. Can you blame him? I know I can’t. LOL.
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This thread is lasting longer at the top of this blog than the Rob Bordsen Era!
Is Lombardi taking a nap or something? He probably should be…
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LBlocal Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
@Cynic, Or incessantly trying to fix the paper jam in the fax machine…
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number 6 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
@Cynic,
Naps can be an excellent thing, and my guess is that he’s desperately in need of one about now.
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Seriously?!?!? Not one sliver of Kings news to report? Nothing????? I mean even if the elephant in the room floats a biscuit and blames it on the dog I wanna know about it! Drew…..you’re killing me son. You want us and we want you. 5 for 5 and we’ll re-up later. Think of how good this team is on the cusp of being. Do something the greatest player of all time never could. It’s called a legacy. Show us that pride boy. This is killing me BTW! 3 more days until rapid/rabid refresh!!!! I need a drink.
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Dang. Someone needs to sign somewhere. This is a HUGE let down after the flurry last week.
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
@FKA PakiFro, The hold up has got to be DD. Dean needs to know the #’s before he can activly go out and sign or trade for anyone else. Im hoping it all comes to an end sooner rather than later
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Anyone read this? http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2011/06/27/la-kings-fans-react-to-smyths-explanation-he-lied-to-us/
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
@Subby, Yeah, it’s Hillarious how propaganda works. Were all those things said? Of course, but they re-arrange things to make it look like everyone in LA despises Smitty! The journalist who wrote that article can suck a big fat one! And you can quote me on that!
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How much is too much? Would you resign DD at any price? Bob McKenzie of TSN seems to think DD is looking for 6.8 mil (Kopi numbers), is that too much? What would be the most to sign DD for?
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puddle Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
@Osaka, Based solely on his performance last year, he doesn’t deserve more than $4.5/y. But all things considered – his age, his 2009-2010 performance, his potential – I’d go as high as $6.25/y, which is just below what Kopi is making. He hasn’t earned Kopi money, IMO.
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Osaka Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
@puddle, I don’t think he should get more than 5.5 but it will probably be around 6. But what if he did want 6.8? Do you let another team sign him, trade him, or give him the money?
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puddle Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
@Osaka, It’s a tough call. Gotta make a cutoff somewhere right? DL doesn’t have an easy job. I might do $6.8/y if it’s a 1 or 2 year contract. But anything longer than 2 years, I think I draw the line at $6.25 – and that’s for a mid-length contract. I’d give him more years for a lower cap hit, obviously, and try to make it as incentive laden as possible.
If he’s dead set on a long-term $6.8/y cap hit, I’d probably have to pass and let the market determine his price by waiting to see if he gets an offer sheet from another team. Then I can decide to match or not. If he *doesn’t* get an offer sheet, the negotiating power shifts back in my direction a bit. He’d have to a) agree to a lower salary, b) take the QO and renegotiate next summer (which would both parties a better idea of his true value), at which point he’d be a UFA, or c) take me to arbitration. If he *does* gets an offer sheet for $6.8/y or more, I’d probably match and then try to trade him if his performance is not drastically better than it was this year. If I didn’t match, I would get 4 first rounders back as compensation. But I probably would match considering this team is built to win now and the draft picks don’t help now.
I do think that Doughty has the negotiating edge here. He knows that the Kings HAVE to sign him since they’re built to win right now. The trade for Mike Richards made that loud and clear. But it’s not like DL can’t say no. He does still have options if it gets to that point, as unattractive as they might be.
Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
@puddle,
I agree with you. I also think Meehan and Morris will likely advise DD not to sign anything till they see if any offers come in, for the exact reasons you mentioned. They have nothing to lose by waiting though, because if none come in, they’ll simply say the other teams are hesitant because it would be considered poaching. It’s still a win win for them. They either get a overpriced offer, or they continue negotiating.
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Hot off the trade wire archive: Luc Robitaille traded to Pittsburgh for Rick Toccet…let’s discuss….
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@Mark C., Barry Melrose and Wayne Gretzky were responsible for that trade. Yah, Rick Tocchett with a bad back, what a disgrace ! I still remember Gretzky on tv after that deal and saying that “we dont need any 50 goal scorers here” Yah, he actually said that. Yet another reason why 99 didnt make a good head coach, and he sure as hell wouldnt make a good GM.
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Hockeyfan B4 Gretzky Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@Mark C., Toccet what a gamble…
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puck73 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
@Hockeyfan B4 Gretzky, Melrose convinced everyone that the Kings needed to be “big and strong” and he preceeded to destroy the team that Mlaker and Beverly had put together. He got Zhitnik and Robitaille traded, he started benching Donnelly and Sandstrom, and for some unknown reason he was in love with Darryl ” The tin man” Sydor who was burnt repeatedly to the outside. I am so glad that Mcnall amd Melrose arent in charge anymore.
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Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
@puck73, How bout trading McSorely, then trading an arm and a leg to get him back.
Somethings coming i can feel it!!!!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
@Icecrown,
Take a Tums, it may be gas!
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Since this thread has already diverged onto several tangents…
What if DD is not signed by July 1 and is given an offer sheet from some other team. According to http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-05-25/compensation-adjustment-could-lead-to-more-offers-for-restricted-free-agents, if the cap hit offer is over $6,268,175, and the Kings didn’t match, then the Kings would get that team’s next 2 first round picks AND their next 2nd and 3rd round picks. Would any team trade those draft picks for DD? I don’t think so.
If the cap-hit offer is under 6.2 mil (but over 4.7 mil), we would get that team’s 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. That’s where we could get into trouble – a $6.0 – $6.2 mil cap hit offer… That’s probably more than what the Kings want to pay, yet we would lose out on that additional 1st round pick. Would the Kings match a 6.2 mil cap hit offer on DD?
But it will all be moot come Thursday when he signs his 8 year 5.75 mil cap hit contract…
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Cynic Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
@OCKingsFan, My worst fear is not about the cap hit so much as the term. I’m worried he’ll pull a Bobby Ryan and want to only take the term to when he’s UFA eligible. The criteria is 27 years old or 7 accrued seasons (With at least 40 games in a season played). (Correct me if I’m wrong). He’s played 3 full seasons already and is 21. He’ll be UFA eligible in 4 years at 25.
In other words, DD (and his agent) is probably going to project his value at 25 and tell Dean that if he wants to lock DD up long term (7 years +), he’s going to have to pay the projected rate now or settle for a 5.5M/year type deal for 4 years and renegotiate then.
If I’m DL, I’d try to get a 10 year + deal on a sliding scale that pays him less until he’s 25 and then peaks for the next 6 years. Something like a 10 year/62M deal structured like this:
1 – 5M
2 – 5M
3 – 5M
4 – 5M
5 through 10 – 7M (With an NTC kicking in year 5)
6.2M cap hit, we get him 10 years. At the end of the contract, he’s 31 and still in his prime, we can see where it goes.
I honestly don’t think that’s too much for a future Norris trophy winner (Possibly multiple time).
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Osaka Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
@OCKingsFan, I will tell you if a team offered over $7,533,584 I would take the 4 #1 picks.
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Michael J. Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
@Osaka,
Me too. Then DL could easily upgrade with two big UFA signings (hopefully).
The Kings have a lot of D-men in the stable. They could survive losing DD.
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Barry's Mullet Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
@Michael J., The Kings could survive…but we all know DD is special and if you’re willing to sign him for $6.5M x 10 years, whats another $1M per season when you really think about it.
As much as we all like to play GM…I’m just glad I’m not DL right now. I’m with cynic…10 year/$60M deal seems fair for both sides.
Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:29 am
@Michael J., I think he should get 5.5 but 6 is probably right. I think all sides get a good deal. Let’s say I would go to 6.5, you say what’s another mil, 7.5. But I thought he was a 5.5 player, that is 2 mil over my value. I agree he is special, but not 7.5 special. Would he have that much of an impact of the game? He may some day but as of now he doesn’t. Can’t pay a guy on what may happen. You can’t negotiate on what is another mil beacause your threshold is already higher than what you see the value.
Easy for me to say though, I don’t have a city ready to kill me if I don’t sign him. I am glad I am not DL either. 10/60M deal does seem fair to both sides.
Dave Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
@OCKingsFan, if DL can get Doughty to sign long-term, i think $6.5 cap hit for 10 years is acceptable. if he wants five years or less then he gets $5.5M cap hit.
i have no idea why they don’t take Duncan Keith’s contract and add a little bit and you’re good to go. Keith signed for $72M over 13 years. give Doughty $75M and call it a day. that’s a shade over $5.75M cap hit which should be acceptable for both sides. Doughty gets long-term security and the Kings have him signed until he’s in his mid-30s at a very reasonable cap hit.
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:32 am
@Dave, Just add to his contact the percentage the contracts went up since that deal was signed (adjust for inflation so to speak).
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Dave Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:30 am
@Osaka, i’d even go $80M over 13 years. that’s $6.15 cap hit which would be perfect. give him annual salaries of $6-$6-$6.5-$6.5-$6.5-$6.5-$7-$7-$7-$8-$5-$4-$4
CB14 Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:47 am
@Dave, The difference is Duncan Keith will be 39 by the time his contract is up, while DD would only be 34. DK’s salary goes down considerably the last couple of years. DD’s can’t do that.
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jet Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:00 am
@OCKingsFan, dont forget the offering team must have their own picks for the rounds they need to give up.
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Changing the subject, RICH, I have an idea. You’re gonna think I’m joking but I’m not. It would be so great to do a limited edition book (nothing too special) of some of the best threads that have run on LAKI. Seriously. I know we’d all buy a copy. Certainly not practial but I think it would be a lot of fun. Everyone has been on fire in this thread.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
@number 6,
Great idea! Then we could turn the book into a movie and call it “The Bordson Files.” It would star the following:
Bordson – Matt Damon
Kopi – Heath Ledger (uh, maybe not)
Quick – Christian Bale
Zeus – Slash
TM – Dustin Hoffman (think RainMan)
DD – Jack Black
Greene – Westgarth
Luc – Luc Robitaille
JW – Jason Statham
Richardson – one of the brother from Oceans 11
Lewis – the other brother from Oceans 11
Penner – Ben Afleck
Kompon – Rodney Dangerfield
Westgarth – Greene
Hammond – George Clooney
The Insiders as themselves (we will work for scale)
I think we could give “Slapshot” a run for their money.
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Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
@DesertKing, Awesome! Jack BlacK….LMFAO!!
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Mikey Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
@DesertKing, the movie thing is do-able! Im in the film industry
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
@Mikey,
Yep, but I think it needs more star power:
Mitchell – Tom Cruise
Bettman – Gary Sinise
Smyth – that guy from The Hangover (the tall one)
Anshutz – Tom Hanks
Stuart Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 7:38 am
@DesertKing, that’s hilarious, Greene and Westy playing each other… classic.
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jet Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:01 am
@DesertKing, very funny
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The Longer this post stays the most recent post, the more this lore grows…I bet Rich has tried to post other topics and the power has zapped his fingers right off the keyboards, or maybe the image of Bordson has actually appeared on screen and adviced Rich against it until, I didn’t fully beieve myself, I was posting jokes about it, and today I squirted katchup on my bun and his image appeared
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SLIM Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
@Ravens,
I heard Rob Bordson has kidnapped Hammer and
is keeping him hostage for Doughty contract going to
Brian Burke and Toronto…..Also try Mayo….
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Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
@Ravens,
Hold on to it. The Vatican may want to examine it.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
@Ravens, I was about to eat the piece of toast on my plate, but there was bordson’s image, as if he was the virgin mary.
Anyways, I put it on ebay with a. Starting bid of 99 cents, and within minutes, it was in the thousands.
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Couldn’t stand seeing Richards in that Flyers jersey anymore. I’m thinking he’ll look good in whatever jersey we play in next year…. Check out these spy photos…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10214155@N05/5882581093/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10214155@N05/5882581001/in/photostream/
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LAPD Line Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
@LAPD Line, One more photo, hopefully LA Kings website doesn’t mind… just having some fun here…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10214155@N05/5883263350/in/photostream
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Dominick Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
@LAPD Line,
Good stuff!
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rontheking Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
@Dominick, He looks happy in his new jersey! (did i just say new jersey?–jinx!)
David V Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
@LAPD Line, Richards looks great in Kings jersey !
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
@LAPD Line,
Someone needs a job working on the Kings website – nice work!
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PK Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
@LAPD Line, I like the ‘A’. You think he’ll be a captain? I would like to see Willie Mitchell wear the ‘A’
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KC23 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
@LAPD Line, Well done!
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
@LAPD Line, lookin good in the all black.
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The whole “Kopi money” thing as it pertains to DD is ridiculas. Kopi is signed through 2015. Does that mean that we’ve hit the ceiling on competetive salaries? No! the market is what it is. Just because you don’t like the price doesn’t mean that it’s suddenly going to drop, to accommodate you.
It’s supply and demand, and in this case it’s DD. It’s not about what you guys think is fair, but what the true value of what other teams would pay that will govern how much DD will be worth. Kovalschmuck at a 5.5 million dollar cap hit makes sense, for the Kings, but the market didn’t hold true there, did it?
I see no other recourse than to just get rid of him, and move on if Dean can’t sign him for less than 4.5. Ridiculas!
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gustavo Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
@Dominick,
Like a true canadian mercenary with skills, DD is stringing management, teammates, fans and media until July 1, at least, to see what Detroit, Toronto and a few other teams put on the table for him.
DD does not give a flying coitus about his team needs to hire a bonafide LW to replace Ryan Smythe. He wants a chunk of that money for himself. If one more poster says DD is the next Lidstrom I’m gonna puke all over anyone wearing DD’s jersey at the home opener.
He has ZERO loyalty for anyone but himself. Why do Russian players like Brysdalow or Kovalchoke get hung up to dry for being selfish when they try to negotiate the best possible contract available to them, but when a skillful Canadian spoilt rotten player does it is ‘the nature of hockey biz”?
Hey, Rich…How about you grow some cojones and tell it like it really is with the snot nosed spoilt rotten underachieving ‘promise’ of a great defenseman?
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CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
@gustavo, Them fightin words son. You better watch out cuz the Hammer is gonna strike soon.
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gustavo Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
@CB14,
Yeah, I’m sure Rich does have some limitations as to what he can or cannot say, being the negotiations are supposed to be ‘ongoing’…So it’s not his fault, and I’m sure his cojones are fine and brassy.
As for DD, everything I think of him stands. Prove me wrong, senor Doughty! As of now I see you as little more than a detriment to the team chemistry everyone in the Kings organizations has worked so hard and for so long to create.
Garrett Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
@gustavo, And the choir said, Amen!
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John Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
@gustavo,
Could it possibly be that contracts involving young potentially great players just take a bit longer to iron out? Laich just signed TODAY & he’s nowhere near the caliber of player that Doughty is! Stamkos hasn’t signed either…but I guess he’s just a Canadian mercenary too?!
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:58 am
@gustavo, Let’s find out what he is asking or if it ever goes to July 1st before we jump all over Drew.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
@Dominick,
Two biggest days in a professional athlete’s life – the day they get drafted (and are handed a “golden ticket”) and the day they become an Unrestricted Free Agent (the “golden ticket” reveals what it is worth). Let DD enjoy being the talk of the league and then he will sign with us and get down to business. The positive of this is he may be working out and trimming himself up this summer to be more marketable.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
@DesertKing, no one is talking doughty except us kings fans. Its all about stamkos fever.
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
@KingsFanInPortland,
Exactly, and once he figures that out, he will be signing with the Kings.
Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:17 am
@Dominick, I don’t understand what is ridiculous? Us having fun playing GM trying to put a $ amount on DD’s head?
“I see no other recourse than to just get rid of him, and move on if Dean can’t sign him for less than 4.5. Ridiculas!” How much money DD could sign for is ridiculous?
Us playing GM saying we would trade DD if he wanted too much?
Hammond said (educated guess) DD signs or offered a contract around 6M a year. Is that ridiculous?
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RICH …..HELP…….. This blog has gone nutz……we all need a life!!!!!!!!!
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This thread is giving me whatever the internet equivalent of cabin fever would be. I need fresh air!
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McKenzie reports that the LA Kings tried to acquire BRichards rights. Clearly he wouldnt waive his NMC, this shouldbe a good indication that he will not be joining LA for all you hopefulls.
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Michael Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
@LuckyNumber20, he won’t waive his NMC for any team
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Kingsfan99 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
@Michael,
I checked Bob McKenzie’s twitter page. i didnt see anything about the kings trying to get B Richards rights
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CB14 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
@LuckyNumber20, He also wouldn’t waive his rights for one other team as well, it was assumed it was Philly. I hope it doesn’t mean anything because I want him here with the Kings.
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KingsFanInPortland Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
@CB14, he’s not going to be a king lol. Think gagne.
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CB14 Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:53 am
@KingsFanInPortland, Puck73 didn’t think Mike Richards would’ve been traded either, and look what happened. No disrespect to you or Puck73, but no one knows for sure. Not even Brad Richards at this point. Never say Never is my motto.
KingsFanInPortland Reply:
July 1st, 2011 at 12:37 am
@CB14, yeah, fair enough. You are right. I just dont see DL soending to the cap. But you never know.
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Ravens Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
@LuckyNumber20,I think everyone tried to buy his rights if I’m not mistaken, and his agent said he wanted to keep be able to negotiate with more than one team, I don’t think it mattered which team.
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Osaka Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
@LuckyNumber20, Right after it was announced Brad Richards would not waive his no trade clause the Kings made the Mike Richards trade. I said at that time it looked like Dean tried to aquire his rights, didn’t work so he had to pull the trigger on a deal.
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Rich, it would be great if you can post what do you think about July 1st and who DL will go after. Or trade is motr likely to happened.
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think we could make a bid for Gagne?
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PK Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
@Caleb C, Jagr is expected to sign with Pittsburgh! Wow.
I like Gagne, I think the Kings will make an offer. C’mon he’s from Philly!
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Caleb C Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
@PK, yeah thats going to be nice to watch
I hope we do he could help us along more
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First off…..Rich, dude are you okay? A day without The Hammer is like a day without sunshine. Throw us bone man. Send up a flare. We’re here for you. As for DD….I hope this isn’t as bad as it’s starting to feel. Kyprios is saying “not close” what does that mean. BR wants to play in NY. So be it. I would hope that DD (a self proclaimed Kings fan) can appreciate what it would mean in terms of cementing his legacy to be part of the first Stan-Cub team here in LA. Storied or not this org-i-zation has had some of the all time greats. From the purple and gold to the silver and black the Los Angeles Kings as a franchise have earned their place. Let’s hope that the round mound of can I get a rebound makes the right decision and signs that 6-7 year deal that insures a solid run for several years. If he chooses to go a different course well then…….screw you Doughts. Good f’n luck. My feeling is that we all breathe a sigh of relief here in the next 24 to 36 hours and we begin to look forward to what promises to be a great time to be a King.
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neil Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
@Harrison Merkin, a day without sunshine????……..night….
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I just hope Doughty DOES NOT become another Kovi and hold up the club in making any moves or signings.. A 10 year deal at $6 mil per is a great in-between point for both parties.. Only 2 + days til July 1st…………………..
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No new posts until we reach 500!!!!!!
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http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hdpid=49&id=119827&navid=mod-rr-topvids
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rontheking Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
@pat, Thanks for the comic relief!
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Who Knows? Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
@pat,
Reporter: The best felling is..?
Quick: Uhh.. I don’t think I can say that on camera.
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Did I miss something? Please don’t tell me the Kings are throwing out the purple on the jerseys and going all out “gang banger” black and white. Where’s the purple on the web site? NOOOOO! more purple, more gold, less black….come on Kings uhhhh Raiders!
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John Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
@Cous,
The Kings are throwing out the purple
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DesertKing Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
@John,
That sounds like a Jamarcus Russell problem
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Deke'r Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
@Cous, Isn’t everbody wearing black and white these days……..it means you’re ba ba ba ba…boring. Maybe the purple thread was too costly?
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ForumtoStaplesFan Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
@Cous, Second!
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Osaka Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
@Cous, I’m with you! I love the purple.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
@Cous,
Yeah, we will be going gang banger colors next season. I guess history really doesn’t mean much for the Kings anymore, eh?
I won’t be getting any new jerseys, thank you. (unless we get Parise! get it?)
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Buster Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:28 am
@Cous,
Is it possible that one of the reasons that DD is asking for more money is to compensate for the lack of purple on our uniforms next season?
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MORE DD IDEAS…
How about Drew ‘Canadian Mercenary’ Doughty fires his agents, hires Jsck Johnson for a dinner at Spagos and the latest video games to negotiate his contract with DL?
Thoughts?
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grt the doughty deal done stat!
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I’m not sweating DD contract. I think it’ll get done so that both sides will be happy. DD is going to have a heck of a year I believe. Especially if we get a decent top 6 LW. Richards is going to be a big upgrade to our PP with DD, Martinez and JJ benefiting big time.
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jet Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:12 am
@KC23, His agent likely wants teh Stamkos deal done first as it will set the highest bar. Also, Stevie Y would be easier to intimidate than Lombardi. We are in a holding pattern until SS goes.
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Is it possible that we’ll see Tom Cruise in a Bordson jersey next year at Staples?
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Kingsfanone Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
@Bonvivant1,
Nope. That would be a mission impossible. lol
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I found this, well, disapointing…
“It’s ironic that Schenn and Richards were involved in the same trade, because when scouts have been asked for an NHL comparable to Schenn, many have pointed to Richards.”
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
@Jamesonafterawin,
How so? Development of a player is the hardest part of anything. Schenn looks alot like M.Richards in his junior days, but M.Richards has already proven that he is one of the top centers in the league, in EVERYTHHING. He is the best shorthanded threat player in the league, one of the best PK players, can make a play, and in the end, bury the puck. Schenn still has LOTS to learn, and same with Richards. Atleast with Richards, we dont have to worry about him actually developing. I think its safe to say that you dont have to worry about Schenn making Richards look bad ever.
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KC23 Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
@Jamesonafterawin, A bird in the hand.
I’ll take Richards over an unproven rookie all day long. I think it’s less than 50/50 that’ll he get to Richard’s level. Well below 50/50 to be better. If he does get to that level or above it will likely be 3 years away.
It’s also very possible Schenn will be just another checking line center like a Torres or Stoll or maybe not even that. He certainly didn’t show us all that much in his first 9 games, but that doesn’t mean much with such a young talent. I hope he does well though. Seems like a good kid.
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:45 am
@Jamesonafterawin, Can you say Patrik Stefan, Alexandre Daigle, or Brian Lawton. All former #1 overall draft pcks with TONS of potential.
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Gary Livingston Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:05 am
@Jamesonafterawin, You are acting as though Richards is only good to us for two years…
He’s locked up for the long haul and will be better for us than Schenn right now and going into the future.
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Some of you people are ridiculous.
DD deserves money similar to Mike Green and Duncan Keith, easily. But, he is projected to be Lidstrom good as he hits his prime.
What did Lidstrom get paid in his prime? Enough to make his cap hit 7.6.
Lidstrom, at his age now has a cap hit of 6.2
You think it is fair for Doughty to sign a long term deal that goes into his prime years and somehow only pays him enough for the cap hit to reach 4.5 ?
What!?
6.5 is totally deserving if it is long term.
If it is short term, just these four years until he is UFA then it should be more reflective of his current skills and his poise. Which would be 5 – 5.5 if you were to ask me.
But, what are you all doing thinking he is being greedy or spoiled or selfish? What is the rush? There really isn’t one at all.
You think we need Doughty figured out so we can go poach Stamkos? Or trade for Semin? Are you really that unrealistic to think something like that is an opportunity missed because Doughty hasn’t signed yet?
Holy crap. What’s wrong with your business sense? Hell, what’s wrong with your common sense?
Anyone Dean is going to sign isn’t going to be another Mike Richards. It isn’t going to be Brad Richards. It isn’t going to be anyone that the cap space will be in the way of without knowing what Doughty is getting. It’s going to be someone that pulls 3-5 at the very most. We certainly have the room for that.
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Tony Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
@Gary Livingston, Totally agree. I’m blown away by the lack of hockey knowledge of the people on this website! Doughty is a once on a generation defenseman!
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
@Tony, He could be. He isn’t Bobby Orr yet. He isn’t even the best defenseman in the league is he? What has he done to be a generational defenseman? I agree he has the potential to be, but that is a long way off from being one of the greats.
That ringing is the Hockey HOF calling DD, he gets a pass, goes right in.
You want to talk about hockey Knowledge?
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:06 am
@Gary Livingston, Potential to be Lidstrom good? Really? Says who? You want to throw tons of money at potential? You mean like Alexandre Daigle potential (sarcasm). He hasn’t earned the bank breaking deal yet. You are talking about what is fare for him to be signed into his prime. If a players signs long term he has secrurity but forgoes what he could be demanding on the open market. Management takes more of a risk with a long term deal but has to pay less money. An unproven player does not get both a long term deal for top market value (especially estimated value). I do agree with your one point, some people need to use common sense.
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CB14 Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:23 am
@Gary Livingston, If he played last year like he did 2 years ago I’d be fine with giving him Kopi money. The fact is that for whatever reason, he didn’t. Remember how good Dion Phaneuf was in his first three years with Calgary? Really good. Then he got paid big time at age 23, 6 years 39 million total for a cap hit of 6.5 million, and since signing that contract his numbers have decreased each year. DD is 21, isn’t exactly known as a gym rat, has allegedly partied too much (I don’t blame him for wanting to get some, but if it effects his play on the ice I don’t like it), and his play regressed compared to the previous year. I would think twice about giving him Kopi money if I was the GM. Why not a 2 year deal for 10 million total, along the lines of what you mentioned, and if he plays those 2 years like he played 2 years ago, he gets his Kopi money, and possibly more.
As far as BR is concerned, a 9 year 54 million dollar deal seems do-able to me. That’s a cap hit of 6 million. 8 mil the first 5 years, then 6, 5, 2, and 1 million his final year. He would likely retire around 37 and thus his contract would actually be 7 years 51 million. The additional 2 years would drop his cap hit from 7.285, to 6 million. That seems like it “could” work. But I’m no GM, just a fan with too much time on my hands.
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Dominick Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:07 am
@Gary Livingston,
THANK YOU! I tried to inject the exact same common sense in here about DD, but it keeps getting me nowhere. Even when I try to back it up with stats, no ones listening. The left wing is a set price by Deans own admission, and I get the same thing.
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:41 am
@Dominick, You keep throwing out economic terms like the NHL is a true market, it isn’t. Where is the market correction? Do players salaries go down? Also you guys think because one GM throws a ton of cash at a player he sets the market value? So every 2 time 30 goal scoring center should have a cap hit of 7mil because Sather gave that to Drury. If a team would to offer DD 15 Mil for one year we should match because that is his value? Not to me it is. One wild contract offer does not set the market, that is the one teams value. You may say 15 is a ridiculous number, well to me a penny over 6.5 is. To me that is common sense, doesn’t mean I am right, but let’s not say people aren’t thinking if they don’t agree with you guys.
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:53 am
@Gary Livingston, OK let’s do it your way, let’s pick a D-man around the same age and around the same stats as Drew Lidstrom and see where his contract should be. Jack Johnson of the LA Kings (have you heard of him?) scored 42 points last year and Drew scored 40. Both young men represented their country in the winter Olympics the year prior. Jack just signed a contract because his was up this year also. Jack signed for 4.3M. There, sign Drew Lidstrom for 4.3M, precedent set.
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Dominick Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 7:05 am
@Osaka,
Again, JJ’s possetion stats don’t match DD’s. Try matching qualcom p60, toi, or corsi/relcorsi to the best in the league, and see where he stacks up. Then try justifying 4 mill as better than an insult.
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puddle Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
@Dominick, This. Offensively, the two are actually rather comparable, which can lead people to believe they’re similar players or worth similar amounts. But defensively – it’s no contest. DD is so far out of JJ’s league there, Jack couldn’t see Drew’s league with binoculars.
Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@Dominick, I agree Dom, Drew is a much better player, just making a point to Gary.
Shotongoal Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:11 am
@Osaka, this statement is way off….IMO!! Hopefully, Lombardi isn’t thinking along the same lines that you are about comparing Johnson and Doughty contract wise…I’d like to see what you were writing about Doughty a year ago….I’m seeing a lot of fickleness in some here about Doughty now.
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
@Shotongoal, Oh I love DD, and yes he is a much better player than JJ. I was only making a point about comparing player and coming up with contract numbers. I was just having fun. Gary also said DD was the second coming of Lidstrom so I took that a little too far. Drew is a great player. I said I am sure he will sign for 6M and I think that is fare.
PK Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:59 am
@Gary Livingston, Are you on something gary? Did you watch hockey? Thank God you do NOT run this team. Comparing DD to Nicky Lidstrom? C’mon man!
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Shotongoal Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:04 am
@PK, actually if you READ what he wrote he was comparing Doughty to Green and Keith, salary wise…..I like you people because you are all obviously Kings fans, but sometimes you only see, hear, read what you want and don’t actually take the time to “ingest” what has actually been said/written…..
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
@Shotongoal, Did you READ the post? Yes he DID compare DD with Lidstrom “…he is projected to be Lidstrom good as he hits his prime. ” Did you ingest? If you are calling someone out know what you are talking about.
Drew is great but he is no Lidstrom and it is a big leap to think he could ever be that good. Lidstrom is that good because of his work ethic and drive. Lidstrom works out after practices and games. Is Drew that kind of a guy?
Dominick Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:04 am
@PK,
I believe Lidstrom didn’t even crack the Detroit line up till he was 22. DD’s 21, and already completed 3 seasons, and been nominated for a Norris. No one is saying he’s as good as Lidstrom is now, or that he will have a greater career, just that a longterm contract will cut into his prime years (when he’ll be worth even more). A 4 million dollar (average cap hit) means that he’s only worth 3 right now and 5 somewhere later to even out the average out to 4. DD is worth more than 5 now, aside from how good he will be when he hits his prime.
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
@Dominick, Or he could go down like Wade Redden. Dion Phaneuf didn’t put up big numbers for long.
Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
@PK, Dude, did you READ the post?
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
@Osaka, Sorry PK, that wasn’t meant for you.
Shotongoal Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:02 am
@Gary Livingston, I’ve said pretty much the same things about Doughty, his contract and trade “proposals” that some conjur up here, and it just falls on deaf ears because its not exciting or fantasy enough for some…..
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I can’t believe what I’m reading. Kopi is not worth more that DD. DD is a once in a lifetime defenseman. Defensemen take longer to develop yet kopi played one year after his draft year in Sweden THEN had his rookie year. The comparable year for DD to kopi’s rookie year age-wise was the year DD was a finalist for the Norris Trophy!
Doughty will be one of the best defensemen in the NHL for the next 10-15 years and will win the Norris Trophy at least once!! He better do it in a Kings Uni or I will be sick to my stomach!
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puddle Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:13 am
@Tony, Where can I buy one of those crystal balls you own?
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Osaka Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
@puddle, I’m with you, these guys have lost their minds. DD is a great player but to put him in the HOF right now is a little crazy. I love Drew and want him locked up for a long time but let’s put it in perspective. Having the tools to do it and actually doing it are two different things.
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Don’t Know if you guys already saw … interviews with Simmonds and Schenn wearing their philly jerseys on flyers.nhl.com
it’s on that box of big headlines on main page..
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:42 am
@JunkyDare, I like our trade, but I just bare to see Simmonds in orange. Which reminds me … Rich … tell them to get that Philly crap jersey off our beloved Kings web site front page.
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KC23 Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:43 am
@KC23, “just CAN’T bare to see …”
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king_stoner Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 7:32 am
@KC23,
yeah its weird to see him not in a kings jersey! sad but i do love the fact we got richie!!!
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:33 am
@KC23,
Yea that was definitely tough. I’ll be following his play in Philly for sure.
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Dominick Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:24 am
@FKA PakiFro,
I’m with you there. I loved Simmonds play, and his personal sacrifice on the ice was truly appreciated. Philly got a great character guy on the ice, and a solid 2 way player for years to come. Sad to see him go, and hopefully we see him back in LA when he reaches his late 20′s.
It’s funny, last year when everybody was speculation on moving Simmonds, I said it would probably have to be a packaged deal, and not a strait up, one for one, for something like a Clutterbuck, although I did offer up Parise, for Simmonds, a 2nd round pick and Bernier. I was close I think.
Buster Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:32 am
@KC23,
Also tell them to kill that ugly home plate logo and stay with a REAL crown.
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Dominick Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:37 am
@Buster,
I wouldn’t even mind a sheild outline. Anything that’s more representative of hockey, or something a King would use.
Michael_DD8 Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:40 am
@Buster,
He seems super bummed.. too bad it is probably the best thing for his career.
Whats going on in LA-LA-Land???
It is very quiet now, almost like the calm before the storm. Well, we allready had our storm with Mike Richards. But still we have some important contracts to sign, especially DD.
Lombardi also has made no secret that he is after a mid-range caphit player. Any Ideas who that might be? I have not heard a single rumour on the internet, not even from Eklund or the joker Matt Barry.
I am so thrilled that we got Richards, and I think it is defineley worth giving up Schenn and Simmonds, allthough they will be missed.
Penner – Kopitar – Williams
??? – Richards – Brown
Clifford – Stoll – Parse
Richardson – Lewis – Westgarth
DD – Scuds
JJ – Mitch
Martinez – Greene
I think Loktionov will start in Manchester, he is not suitable for bottom 6.
And what about this video of Mike Richars??? I am sure you all have seen it, but it makes you smile now when he is a Kings. He is awesom. He has great character, I think he is character personified.
Please reply..
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MacSwede Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:56 am
@MacSwede, Forgot the link, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_3PeQQUxc
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Stagger Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:09 am
@MacSwede,
Love it! Thanks for posting.
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puddle Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:10 am
@MacSwede, If Lokti cannot play a 3rd or 4th line role, he’s not going to be with the Kings long, because Kopi and Richards aren’t going anywhere. I DO think he can play a 3rd line role, so long as that line’s not asked to simply be a checking, shutdown line. As the Kings get more talent, Terry Murray will have to change what he’s asking of his players.
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MacSwede Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
@puddle, It is Terry Murray we are talking about. He will never use such a creative guy on the third line, at least not when Stoll is around. But if Lokionov really breaks through next season (i dont see how if he wont get any top 6 minutes), maybe Richards can play a third center role like he did in Flyers this year..
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Osaka Reply:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:58 am
@MacSwede, Get rid of the little Russian paper doll.
Tick…Tock….
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ok .. its too quiet.
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Rich — have you been able to find out why rookie camp is so short this year? When will you post a comp roster. If you are off thur the holiday, then enjoy your time.
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My Take:
Offer DD $6 million/year for 6 years plus incentives (e.g. name top 3 defencemen add $1 million etc)
BUT also have reductions (e.g. arriving in camp out of shape etc.)
THEN, the Club have the option to extend the contract to 10+ years?
What say you?
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puddle Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:02 am
@Colin E., I think incentives and bonuses count against the cap, even if those incentives are not met. So $6 million a year plus $1 million in incentives is a $7 million cap hit, if I understand the rule correctly.
Also, no on the reductions. You start doing that, no player is going to want to sign with your organization. If you think there’s a possibility they show up out of shape or don’t meet certain goals, you just factor that in to your offer price.
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