Some notes from last night’s game…
– The Kings fell behind in the first-round series with a 6-5 overtime loss to the San Jose Sharks on Tuesday night at Staples Center.
– The Kings trail 2-1 in the best-of-seven series, with Game 4 to be played Thursday night at Staples Center.
– All-time, when trailing 2-1 in a playoff series, the Kings have gone on to lose the series 10 of 15 times.
– The Kings allowed five second-period goals. In the regular season, they never allowed more than four goals in a single period (Dec. 29 at Phoenix, Dec. 30 vs. Philadelphia), The Kings allowed at least five goals in an entire game only eight times during the regular season.
– All-time, the Kings now have an 18-21 record in overtime playoff games. They have lost three of their last four overtime playoff games, dating to last season.
– The Kings and Sharks combined for seven goals in the second period. The NHL record for most goals in a single playoff period is nine, set by the Kings and Calgary Flames on April 10, 1990. The Kings won that game 12-4.
– The Kings went 0-for-4 on the power play and 2-for-3 on the penalty kill. For the series, the Kings are 3-for-13 on the power play and 9-for-10 on the penalty kill.
– The Sharks outshot the Kings 36-22, including 18-8 in the second period. For the series, the Sharks have outshot the Kings by a combined margin of 115-80.
– The Kings scored goals 13 seconds apart in the first period. The franchise record for quickest consecutive playoff goals is 11 seconds, set by Larry Robinson and Todd Elik in an April 22, 1990, game against Edmonton.
– Jonathan Quick allowed six goals on 36 shots, the most goals he has allowed in a playoff game. Quick twice allowed five goals in last season’s first-round series against Vancouver.
– Brad Richardson had one goal and one assist, and now has three points in three games in these playoffs.
– Willie Mitchell had one goal, his second goal in 48 career playoff games.
– Kyle Clifford had one goal, and now has two goals and one assist in these playoffs.
– Michal Handzus had one goal, and now has three points in three games in these playoffs.
– Ryan Smyth had one goal, and now has three points in three games in these playoffs.
– Brad Richardson recorded a team-high five shots on goal. Dustin Brown was credited with a game-high nine hits. Willie Mitchell and Richardson were both credited with a game-high four blocked shots.
– Drew Doughty played a game-high 28 minutes, 30 seconds. Dustin Brown led all forwards in ice time at 23:02.
– The Kings won 25 of 64 faceoffs (39 percent). Brad Richardson won 7 of 14 draws (50 percent) and Michal Handzus won 1 of 15 draws (7 percent).
I tried pushing the RESET BUTTON on my nintendo, but it didn’t work
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am
@M.T. Net, hahaha, i know right?
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kororr Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
@M.T. Net, come on man, you know u gotta take out the cartridge and blow on it! lol
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M.T. Net Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
@kororr, but then my whole season gets erased
and westgarth was leading the league in goals & helpers!
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it happened, lets move on… the things that worked, keep it up. learn from the things that didnt, move on.
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RLane420 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:33 am
@tim chaney, Not in the playoffs it shouldnt.
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am
@RLane420, but it does and it did. We still live to see another game played.
I want some practice notes. see if Whenne’r is in or OUT!!
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DesertKing Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am
@Stuart,
I guess its official, he’s Whenner! I also think he gets placed on the trade block at the end of the season. We might be able to get a 19th or 20th round pick for him, but hwo cares, dump his salary and move on. I don’t blame DL, he tried, but this guy just hasn’t lived up to his end of the bargain.
tim chaney Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@RLane420, i agree because it hurt like hell. but this is not a time for putting your head down and crying. focus on whats ahead because you cant undo last night.
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The faceoff percentage really killed us too last night.
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tim chaney Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
@Goring 19, the name of the game is puck possession and control. cant win without it. God forbid they go into that “prevent” again…
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We let off the gas pedal and the sharks floored it, TM went back to dumping and playing D. How many shots did we have in the 2nd & 3rd periods combined? Maybe 8?
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Sebastian Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:19 am
@Pesus, “let of the gas pedal?” more like completely slammed on the brakes!
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KingMe20 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
@Sebastian,
I thought they threw the transmission in reverse while driving at 75 mph.
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M.T. Net Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am
@Pesus, O shots in OT. I guess they were waiting for Boyle to shoot it into his own net again?
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Zues hasn’t been that bad in the fo circle since probably, never. What happened to us in there? Even when they got kicked out (SJ) they still managed to control the puck… it’s been awhile since I’ve not been able “to shake off this creeping malaise…”
I’m blasting some PF now to try and get myself going… Dogs!
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Who would NOT like to see Penner in a LA Kings sweater next season???
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Voice Of Reason Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:18 am
@Harry, +1
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hockeyfanB4Gretzky Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:20 am
@Voice Of Reason, +1 more
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Sebastian Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:22 am
@Harry, Trade him back to the Quacks for Parros.
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KC23 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am
@Harry,
DL always talks about “the right fit”. This guy clearly is not “the right fit”. Was at the game and I made a point to watch him every second he was out there and the guy looks lost. He has that look of a veterean playing the first pre-season game after a cup run. Run down, slow and appears to be completely dis-interested.
I’d take just about anything in exchange for him. We’ll probably see his true colors towards the end of his contract next year. He’ll step it up, get 20 some goals and some poor dumb GM will give him 4 mil again for a couple more years.
One thing is for sure, it won’t be DL giving him that contract.
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Scott Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
@KC23, That’s exactly the words I used to describe him. Lost…
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Jgomez Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@KC23, I was there and started to notice his lack of effort in the second period. He needs to be back on the 4th line IMO. He did great there and maybe thats where he needs to be in our system. Even the old lady next to me was screaming at Penner the whole game so I knew I wasn’t just seeing things. When he was on the ice, I didn’t feel comfortable. Like everyone is saying, he looked lost and looked too slow for playoff type hockey. He did look fine for 1 rush offensively or defensively, but after 30secs he was done. He has to know that he is hurting this team, right?
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DesertKing Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@Harry,
He’s good at ping-pong, Whenner he wants to be.
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rick Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am
@Harry, Epic fail. Easy to pick on him this morning, but I have been saying for weeks now that he is the laziest pro athlete I have ever seen. Assuming DL and TM are still around (story for another day), I cannot fathom how they keep this waste of a uniform on the team. The other guys on the team see the same thing that we do, and they must resent him tremendously.
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Rudedogg Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
@Harry, I dont want blame DL… i think his hand was forced to acquire Penner. we were in the hunt for the playoffs and we needed more scoring from the wings. I’m pretty sure DL new he wasnt “his type” of guy but he had the assets to take a chance on a loaf like that…
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number 6 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:59 am
@Rudedogg,
OK fine. But if we needed more scoring from the wings then isn’t that maybe DL’s responsibility to begin with. We had a sufficient number of draft picks to at least get Some sort of movement regarding forwards. Instead we have HIckey, Voynov and Deslauier, Forbort and had Teubert. All of these from drafts. Maybe, Maybe one of them makes the team in the future. But unless there is an injury to someone I don’t see where you put them as we have 3 solid offensive dmen, last night of course being excluded.
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Harry Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
@number 6, I heard his wife/chick was cheating on him…or they are going thru a divorce…If that’s true, it’s very possible that’s the reason for his poor performance on the ice.
Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
@number 6, I’ve been wondering the same thing. Hear he’s divorced/getting divorced, he and his wife happily awaiting a baby, he’s got a girfrien or 3… So much off-ice distratction with him. I didn’t know he came with more baggage than just his suitcases… This is exactly what we DONT need in our locker room, a giant of a man with other things on his mind…
That was a tough loss but as far as I know, the Sharks still have to win the series on the ice. The series is still there for the taking. The Sharks have always been favored to win this so play loose and if you go down, then so be it.
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CUP4LA Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:29 am
@SaveByCechmanek,
A little lesson from the past. The team that wins these big comeback games goes on to win the series. See Miracle on Manchester, Frenzy on Figueroa, and the Meltdown on Manchester.
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RLane420 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am
@CUP4LA, as far as I remember only one of those examples was a playoff series.
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:39 am
@RLane420, somebody else want to take this one, I don’t want to get put on blast by RH…
Paul M. Hedberg Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
@RLane420,what??
CUP4LA Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
@RLane420, They were ALL playoff series. 1982 vs Edmonton. 1998 Vs. St Louis and 2001 Vs Detroit.
SaveByCechmanek Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:40 am
@CUP4LA, Yes, that is what history shows but like I said. The series still has to be played and won on the ice. That hasn’t happened yet. So many other things can happen. If they lose then fine but a lot of folks are already handing the Sharks the series??
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Cry Baby Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am
@SaveByCechmanek, Don’t fool yourself…the series ended somewhere around 10:30PM last night.
SaveByCechmanek Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
@CUP4LA, … oh and Boston was up 3-0 on Philly last year and we knew the Bruins had that locked up didn’t we? Game 7 was also on the B’s home ice. Yes there weren’t any come from behind games but it’s an example of “it ain’t over til it’s over”
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SaveByCechmanek Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:54 am
@Cry Baby – Not fooling myself at all. The Kings might well be done with that debacle last night… But game 4 wasn’t played yesterday???
Paul M. Hedberg Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am
@SaveByCechmanek, Boston was UP 3-0 in that 7th gm & coughed that up.That’s a come from behind gm…no?
CUP4LA Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
@SaveByCechmanek, Yeah. That’s happened now 3 times in history but yes you are off topic.
Paul M. Hedberg Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
@CUP4LA, still time for momentum to switch back but it’s difficult to imagine(right this sec).In ’82 there was a day off after MoM & EDM evened that series back up.We destroyed ‘em in gm 5…talk about a roller coaster of a series.
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SaveByCechmanek Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
@Paul M. Hedberg, Darn you’re right about the B’s game 7! Here we are only into game 4. Tough but not impossible…
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
@CUP4LA, It’s early, though. There’s still plenty of time. If it was the third win, we’d be screwed, but it’s not. Did suck to blow home ice, though.
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SaveByCechmanek Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
@CUP4LA how am I off topic? Because I used another series from last year’s playoffs as an example? Don’t need to drag this on. You’re point is well taken: HISTORY. got it. My point is simple: It doesn’t look good but there still games to be played. We can talk about history next week after this series is over.
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CUP4LA Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@SaveByCechmanek, You’re off topic because I was only referring to the situation where a team comes back from a huge deficit in a game……not a series.
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Thanks for breaking my heart Kings. This is seriously worse than some of the breakups ive gone through. i know this isnt the end of the world or the end of the season but man that hurt. the feeling i had this morning when i woke up was no bueno. i wanted to just call into work and sleep my sorrow away. i dont think ill ever forget this one. but im going to try. Lets please win one on Thursday Kings. GO KINGS GO
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Sebastian Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:26 am
@OC Hip Check, it would have hurt more last night if i was sober. one guy was so angry after the game he was yelling, screaming and cussing out loud to himself all the way down the stairs from the 300s. parents were grabbing his kids thinking he was going to lose it and do something crazy. haha
i didnt say anything, just shook my head. i kicked the seat in front of me when they tied the game and then gave the guy an im sorry hand gesture but i had no words for that monumental meltdown. it was almost like everyone in the building knew that tying game meant san jose would win the game for sure.
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Sebastian Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am
@Sebastian, typo *parents were grabbing their own kids
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am
@Sebastian, lol not in L.A lol
baby23 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:40 am
@OC Hip Check, I feel the exact same way you! I an having a really hard time today. I almost would have preferred the score to have been 7 – o Sharks. I think I could have handled that kind of loss better than this. We had this one and let is slip away! My desk it decorated with all things Kings and I am having a hard time even working today. Sorry just had to vent.
GO KINGS GO!
I will still be there on Thursday rooting them on!
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OC Hip Check Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
@baby23, i feel your pain man. i have my kings calendar up and some other king stuff in my cubicle. its a bummer man. i was waiting for this ducks “fan” that works here to come over na run his mouth. and of course he did with the dumbest look onhis face. i had to tell him to walk away before i freak out on him. that was a tough pill to swallow. ima say it again. i am heartborken after that game.
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
@OC Hip Check, lol before i freak out on him. I’m there with you, got a text late last night from a fair weather sharts fan, almost got in my car to drive to his house and pinch one on his lawn!!! I was quite drunk at the time.
baby23 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
@OC Hip Check, I just went down to our warehouse to talk to one of the guys that is a Hawks fan, I just needed to talk to someone who is feeling the same way I do. Everyone at work totally knows to stay away from me today! Not even sure if I’ve worked today. Just in a total funk right now! Thanks for feeling my pain.
Great notes Rich.
Always appreciated the summary that you post. In this case it does reinforce my own impressions at the game.
We lost way too many faceoffs, which allowed the Sharks to maintain momentum. Very un-Handzus like.
The Richardson/Simmonds/Clifford line out-worked and out-performed other Kings forwards who make way more money. They showed tremendous heart.
From my seat, two rows back behind the goal, I didn’t really think Quick was to blame for the goals. The Sharks had open looks, were getting in behind the Kings defense, and one goal was re-directed by Mitchell’s stick just enough to fool Quick.
As demoralizing as this train wreck was, I think the Kings will learn from it and be back with a vengeance playing ‘Kings hockey’ again on Thursday.
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Cry Baby Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
@ForumFan, Just like last year…
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Let’s remember (unless you’re too young), the Oilers beat the Kings the game after the Miracle on Manchester at The Fourm…of course, the Kings wrapped up the series at Northlands in game 5…
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A win on Thursday will make it all better. Here’s looking towards Thursday. GKG!
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
@KFII, I’m with you on that! GKG
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did anyone else get deja vu when sharks scored that OT goal? i swear that was the same exact play from game 1
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Gabby Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:26 am
@Derek,
It also reminded me of the Deadmarsh goal against the Red Wings, complete with Osgood (in this case, Quick) lying on his back in agony.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:37 am
@Derek, I’ve said that to like 5 people today before I saw this comment!
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:41 am
@Derek, and someone (number6?) posted that that exact play was being used ad neauseum in game 1 too! They tried over and over in game 2 but the kings almost always had a stick in the passing lane and broke it up. That it SJ’s bread-n-butter play. They did a bunch last night and it finally paid off when our slug-line was out. IIRC Murray had a couple of chances last night being the 4th man late.
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Lanny McDonald's 'Stache Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
@Stuart,
lol, slug line is right
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Dan H. Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am
@Derek,
I did mention the D should have seen that play before 100 times on tape from the coaching staff.
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Scot Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
@Derek,
Yup.
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just like last year, we could of won, we should of won. without a powerful offense you have play defense the whole gasme.if you are attacking with a good offense its hard for the other team to score playing defense. it sounds like the kings problem. i wish the organization had drafted some offensive players years ago, they would be ready to play now. if they have to play defense all the time, maybe the kings should play 5 defensemen each line. looks like this 5 or 6 year plan is more like 10 or 11
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Jeff Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
@ziggy99, That’s because until Dean Lombardi came in and brought in his own people, scouts, the Kings didn’t draft well. yes they got Brown and Kopitar, but really look at the drafts before Lombardi and now with Lombardi. 2003 is the main culprit though. We had first round draft picks, picking Brown was fine. But Boyle and Tambellini….no reason to even comment on that, after seeing what they could of had. Parise, Richards, Perry just to name a few. Now with Lombardi we need to wait a bit. With Toffoli, Schenn, Loktionov, Weal, Vey, Kozun the future looks bright, for our offensively challenged team.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@Jeff, I do recall we lost the two principals in scouting on 9/11/01. That couldn’t have helped.
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This was twice as demoralizing as the Miracle at Manchester and Stunner at Staples were satisfying. I am hoping the Kings recover and win not only game 4 but the series as well.
I have doubts as to TM being the coach to take this team to a Stanley Cup Championship. He has taught this team how to play solid defense and to win in the REGULAR SEASON. However he is slow to make adjustments to changes in the game or even the personnel that he has. There have been other coaches/managers that have been great in the regular season but just couldn’t handle the pressure in the playoffs. Gene Mauch with the 1982 Angels beat the Brewers in the first 2 games in Anaheim. The ALCS was 3 of 5 at the time. One win away. Milwaukee swept the 3 games and the Angels went home with nothing. 1986 Angels one strike away against the Red Sox. Dave Henderson hits a home run and the Red Sox go on to win the ALCS and go to the World Series. In football Marty Schottenheimer won 200 games in the regular season but is 5 and 13 in the playoffs including his 14-2 Chargers being overwhelmed at home by the Patriots.
Point is TM is a good regular season coach. Kings are playing the best defensively since the early to mid 70′s. But I do not see this team winning a championship with him. I hope I am proven wrong.
Go Kings Go
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@bill donnelly, Sounds like you should stop watching baseball. The Kings are not the Angels. The Kings are the underdogs, we knew that going into the series. We’re in the playoffs two years in a row so far, I call that progress! Let’s not hate on the coach because our team lost one game by one goal! Yesterday before the game he was the hero, now he’s the goat??? Some people are spool fickle!! Go Kings!!!
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number 6 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
@Brownkingsfan,
Hey guy….. fine, they lost by one goal. But I mean what sort of analogy can I give you?
You can lose by one goal and play an excellent game (game 1) and you can lose by a goal and effectively make a huge mess of it (see game 3 for reference). I for one take absolutely zero solace in the fact that they lost by one goal….. none whatsoever. Sorry. I don’t think that’s being fickle. It’s a point of view. A team with a veteran coach And like 7 veteran players, four of whom have played in SC finals.
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bill donnelly Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
@Brownkingsfan, They had a chance to finish in fourth and lost twice in back to back days to the Ducks. They had a chance to be up 2 to 1 and choked at home big time. These things keep happening over and over. Murray needs to figure this out and make some adjustments. If he just does nothing this series will be over way too soon. If the Sharks are going to keep sending a trailer get someone to cover him. Adjust the coverage.
You call it fickle I call it tired of seeing the Kings lose when the same thing keeps happening over and over
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RLane420 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am
@bill donnelly, Well 1 thing is for sure after SJ scored the 4th goal TM needs to do somthing to change the game. Pull Quick (even though it wasnt because of him) send Westie Or Cliffy out to beat some shark butt, somthing, anything. Pulling Niemi Sure sparked the Sharts didnt it. TM is just not good at making in game adjustments, reg season or playoffs. He should have done somthing to swing momentum our way. That in a nut shell is TM’s giant flaw he cant make quick adjustments. Give him a couple days of practice and he can somtimes figure somthing out. It just takes him to long to fix problems. Hence 10 and 8 game losing streaks. Other than that he is a great coach.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:59 am
@RLane420, The 8 and 10 game losing streaks in the regular season are different in that we’re playing the same team back to back over a best of 7 series as opposed to regular season where you don’t see the same team very often. Sounds like it would be easier to make adjustments, but they’re making adjustments as well. I do understand what you’re saying though.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
@bill donnelly, You know, it’s funny. I’m not that bummed.
I think the biggest reason I’m not is that they played a whole (decent) third period and an overtime before they lost. If they’d finished the game reeling, I’d be really bummed, but to me, they learned a valuable lesson and lost a game they really needed (breaking serve as they did.) They recovered, and they still have a decent shot in this series. The problem is, the Sharks, who were getting really down on themselves, now have hope they didn’t seem to have.
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bill donnelly Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Yes they did seem to settle down. However the game winning goal was similar to that of game one. Let’s see how they recover and what Murray does in game four. The Kings need to play like they did in game 2 for the entire game. The Sharks have the reputation for choking in the playoffs and we need to capitalize on that.
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I am life long Kings fan from New York and staying up until early morning to see an epic choke job was brutal. Since my Center Ice package is now showing MLB, I have to be tortured watching the games on Versus with the annoying Sharks announcers. They are terrible, I miss Fox and Miller. Its nails on the chalk board every time I hear the talented by irritating to look at LOGAN COUTURE (CA-CHORE). That dude looks like a rat face. Can Someone level him into next week already.
I no stranger to choke jobs I have seen enough of them from my New York Mets.
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am
@bdolan76, I think Greener smashed him into the boards hard… I was very please with that hit!
I cant remember, but I think one of the Sharts took another high run at someone behind our net early on… no call there.
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Being a King fan is like taking back the girl who keeps cheating on you.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:48 am
@CUP4LA,
Highlight of the night:
Some guy next to me yelled out “Hey ref! does you wife know you’re screwing us?”
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RLane420 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:54 am
@FKA PakiFro, The refs didnt tell the Kings to quit playing after they took a 4 goal leed.
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Pili Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
@CUP4LA, LOL Oh my gosh that’s perfect. I feel so cheap.
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
@CUP4LA, perfect analogy… we take her back because we know she can make us feel soooooo good, we forget about the heartaches.
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The next game should be good. Reputations and jobs are on the line now more than ever. Penner will be lucky to get picked up by a minor league team. He made one good pass and then he died. This team is not going to let this happen again. Pride is on the line here for the whole team so I expect they’ll come back with a fury and show what this team is really made of. Bench Penner bring in Drew. It doesn’t matter whether the positions are the same Drew can do a lot better than Penner for 60 min.
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Lanny McDonald's 'Stache Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:54 am
@twnclick,
Pride rolled over and died when the Kings allowed 5 goals in the 2nd period last night. No pride. No heart.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
@twnclick, Yup–Kings win it, and it’s even up all over again. Kings lose it, and you can stick a fork in ‘em.
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terrible defence in our zone, guys wide open on the backside all night,every body looking at the puck. 3rd and 4th guys comming down the slot late with no one on them. We have to stick with are game plan, not getting into a run a gun which is what the sharks want. That wasn’t kings hockey last night.
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Josh M Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
@fifth line, 75% of the Sharks goals this series have been from guys sliding into the slot untouched. Nobody watches the middle or the backside and it’s sad how San Jose can just pick us apart like that every game.
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Unpopular opinion: Quick needed to be more Quick-like. Could have used a game-changing save or two.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:48 am
@jordan, VERY unpopular thought! Did you see the shots on goal differential??? Quick had way more saves than both Sharks goalies! He made some food stops too. Defense is everyone’s job, not just the goalie! Losing this game was a team effort!
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Lanny McDonald's 'Stache Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am
@Brownkingsfan,
I don’t think he’s blaming Quick for the loss. However, Quick is the X-factor for us in this series, and he has the ability to steal a game for us. He didn’t lose the game for us, but he sure as hell didn’t step up and win it for us either.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
@Lanny McDonald’s ‘Stache, True, his job is to give the offense the opportunity to win, and he let too many goals in! Bad night. Let’s refocus and get ready for tomorrow!
RLane420 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
@Brownkingsfan, True but if you ask Quick himself he would tell you 2 or 3 of them goals he should have stopped. Not all were because of him that is for sure. How many shots did the Sharts have in game 1. Quick could have been better and he will tell you that himself. By no means was this his fault the entire team let up after the 4th goal.
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soyokaze Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
@jordan, Sorry Jordan, Kings D totally let him down. Guys were literally wide open. Quick had NO chance on most of those goals.
1.) Marleau – Off on the side, Easy tap in.
2.) Clowe- Off Mitchell’s stick
3.) Clowe – WIDE OPEN at side of the net. HUGE breakdown there. Scrambling around their own zone like chickens with their heads cut off. Couple times to clear the zone, failed miserably.
4.) Couture- 4 on 4, WIDE OPEN one-time from cross-ice pass.
5.) Pavelski- Mad scramble in front of the net. Kings D once again too focused on the puck. Blocked shot, then Pavelski picked the top shelf.
OT goal – Setoguchi WIDE OPEN because of Penner’s LAZY backcheck.
This was a total team collapse. This is not because of one person. WIN AS A TEAM LOSE AS A TEAM.
Move forward, get Staples rocking on Thursday, and play like they know how to play. It’s tough, but try to stay positive Kings fans.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
@jordan, He wasn’t bad, but he needed to be better than that. Nevertheless, I wouldn’t consider that anywhere near the main focus. The Kings have given away the two games in which they failed to commit to the system and got into a track meet.
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Dustin Penner looks like he is just collecting a paycheck and going through the motions out there. I am sure he wants to do good who doesn’t out there on the ice. But what he doesn’t understand you have work for it and fight to be successful. It was sickening to see Dustin Brown on one shift scratching and clawing to keep the puck in the zone and the dud Penner was like figure skating. He looks lazy or something. Where is that energy and fight he showed against Doughty clocked one of his Oiler teammates in January.
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am
@bdolan76, Case in point… He doesn’t want to be here!
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Mr. Hockey Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
@bdolan76, Bench Him!!
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On live chat on puckdaddy (just checked out a few little blurbs) some journalists were less than impressed with how TM managed the game. This also (probably not fair but gotta say I was thinking about it) made me think of the whole scenario in the finals with the Flyers when he said they were in a choke situation.
He clearly hasn’t yet had major success of any sort in the post season. It does concern me but at the same time, it’s not a mystery. Vancouver had (and has) more talent than the Kings and so does San Jose. So you can’t expect him to create miracles. But that being said, when you have a four nil lead in the 2nd, there is (go ahead you guys can finish the sentence as you like).
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KC23 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
@number 6, Yep TM did what has happened to Bowman, Sather and countless other coaches against far weaker teams, only TM did it with a team full of rookies, 2nd year players and without their best player against one of the top teams in the league.
Lets get real here.
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number 6 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
@KC23
I’m only saying that I’m concerned. I pointed out what did happen in the past but did not say he’s a lousy coach though I do think the game could have been managed better.
Secondly, it’s been a number of years that we’ve been saying how young the Kings are. True, some of them are. But amongst the rookies and 2nd year players there is Martinez, Cliffy, Westgarth (not that he’d make a huge difference one way or the other) and…. can’t think of anyone else.
Smyth, Stoll, Greene, Scuds, Zues, Williams, Penner, Brown, and a few other guys who are at least three to four years in. Fine, they are indeed a young’ish’ team (core) but certainly not full of rookies and 2nd year players. So I don’t agree about that point.
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number 6 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
@number 6,
And to be even more clear, while a lot of people are commenting on Penner and TM, I believe it comes down to the entire group. Everyone on the team, with certainly a few players being more culpable than others.
I was literally cursing every faceoff because it felt like we weren’t winning any of them. Rich’s stats prove I was right. God awful…..
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I can’t believe Penner played 28 shifts for 19:36 min while Ponikarovsky only played 13 shifts for 07:58 min and Westie 5 shifts for 02:28. That 4th line seemed to be underused especially when the Kings had the 4-0 lead. Ponikarovsky could certainly have replaced the tin man Penner. Fox made a comment I think before the game or at least early in the game in refrence to TM comments made to Penner. These comments were something like ….if you can only skate at 100% for 20 seconds then skate the 20 sec and get off the ice… I am not even sure Penner skated a total of 20 sec in the full 19:36 min he was on the ice. The dude looks depressed…thats not a playoff beard he is growing thats a “I am depressed because my dog died and my wife left me for the milk man” beard. Snap the F##K out of it and take some 5 hour energy or something….
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Brownkingsfan Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
@The Hockey Don, Guess the milkman had more stamina
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The Hockey Don Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
@Brownkingsfan,
LMAO
I wonder if she had a milk mustache and if that was even milk lol no we are starting rumours hahaha
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
@The Hockey Don, she needs a “NOT MILK” shirt… LMAOROTF
that was bad.
KC23 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
@The Hockey Don, I think you have a good point here because by the middle of the 2nd period the team looked like they just finished 4 games in 6 nights. Dead tired and no legs moving almost going through the motions (I now call it Penner-isk play … yes, I’ve coined a new term). Like the rest of the team just started to look just like Penner does 80% of the time.
Simmonds line was guilty of extended shifts which ended up offsetting everything good they had done in the first period.
On a positive note I thought JJ did well and Martinez and Greene were excellent. DD and Mitchell looked bad. Real bad imho, mostly DD though going in deep for no good reason several times.
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The Hockey Don Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
@KC23, Great points I am in full agreement.
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bbb7 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
@The Hockey Don, And on the final play, Penner was near the Kings bench and seemed ready to change and then changed his mind, and then seemed lost in the O Zone, saw his man breaking and gave a half-hearted chase to center ice and they did the prayer coast. Im thinking the people who say his conditioning was awful while at Edmonton are correct.
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penner looked so lost last nite. He could be that force we need. I think a full traing camp will do him wonders. the Game was so good until that 2nd period
there was 4 shark fans in font of us in sec 324 they came in talking smack up till that first goal. our whole section blew up and gave em hell. turns out they got the last laugh lol.. well i still think were going to take this in series in 7. were going to come out with fire tomorrow nite. were a far better road team and the sharks aren’t that scary. lets stay positive folks give our team full support the rest of the series. so far i think the series has been very exciting and well matched thus far.
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Jeff Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
@JustinC, I really don’t understand what happened in that 2nd period, after richies goal made it 4-0. It is like they stop playing, especially the last 10 minutes. All they needed to do was clamp down defensively, like they’ve done a thousand times under TM, and get the puck deep and cycle the heck out of the puck. Wear the Sharks down. They didn’t even need to score anymore, just wear down the Sharks. They didn’t do that kept giving the puck away in the neutral zone, allowing the Sharks to come in 3 on 2 or 4 on 3, getting behind the puck instead of in front of it, allowing the Shark players to get behind them. It was so uncharacteristically not the Kings, I didn’t even recognize them. I really don’t know what it was that TM could do to stop it, as it was pretty much everybody save a few. I mean the last 7 minutes was atrocious defensively. They were chasing San Jose all over the place in the offensive zone, couldn’t get the puck out. It was unbeleivable and I have never seen a game change so much in such a little time. I guess with all the comebacks we had, we were bound to be on the other end some time. Karma is a u know. Just need to play the same exact way they played in games 1 and 2 and for most of 3, save the last 10 minutes of the 2nd period.
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KC23 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@JustinC, If the playoffs don’t motivate ya as a hockey player, nothing will. I’ve written this guy off in my mind. The worst kind of play imho.
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Damn! Tough loss, but we got to keep chugging!! GKG!!!!!!!!
What is up with Penner is the only negative thing I’d like to comment on. He’s slow including gliding over the blue line as the sharks won in OT and he’s playing so dang small. He got plowed like 5 times last night….so weird. Isn’t he 6’3 250 or something….geeze. I’d honestly think about benching him. He could have caaught up with that trailer on the OT goal.
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I think the kings are a great “Team” with great team work and cohesiveness. IMO they found themselves in uncharted territory being up 4-0 early on in a playoff game and scared themselves out of the lead. That is why it was so important for the Coach to step up and settle the team down by calling a time out. T.M. missed his opportunity and instead picked a fine time to catch Penneritis as evidenced by doing nothing. Way to go Coach.
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Jeff Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
@The Hockey Don, When was he suppose to call time out? The best place would of been after the 3rd goal, but he didn’t. Of course a minute later we scored to make it 5-3. Had he called time out there, we probably wouldn’t of scored that. After Smyth scored they should of huddled up and got together and, Dustin should of said something. As Captain he should of said something like get back to basics, home plate mentality. The Smyth goal slowed the Sharks down a little, but the Kings just kept playing the same way allowing the Sharks to tie it.
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The Hockey Don Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
@Jeff,
He should have called it after SJ scored goal #2 especially with the fire power they have and the “OH Crap” look on the young Kings face. Just my opinion.
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KC23 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
@Jeff, There were TV time outs and TM was telling them exactly that. He can’t make them do it he can only remind them. The players lost that game not TM.
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Aside from the Miracle on Manchester, I really believe we need to stop using alliterations to describe a particular game. It’s a bit too childish. I get it though-it helps you remember-but I’m pretty sure that a lame moniker is not needed to remember what happened tonight. In fact, why would you want to waste a nickname for tonight’s collapse?
I submit to my fellow posters, and specifically the media that would like to put their artificial stamp on one night in history, to leave it be. The series isn’t over, and it’s just one game. Let the MoM keep its place in history.
And for the record, Frenzy on Figueroa is a stupid name. I was there. It was amazing…but there was no frenzy…and we lost to Colorado and were never heard from in the playoffs again till eons later.
Now, when the Lakers won that first championship in Staples–that was a friggin frenzy on Figueroa. Again I was there, and I distinctly remember riot police chasing people down and getting clubbed. No comparison. Also for the record…I am not a Lakers fan.
Go Kings go. Tie it up in game four!
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