After Game 3, Terry Murray was adamant that he did not consider pulling goalie Jonathan Quick from the game, and Quick was the first goalie off the ice in practice today, negating any thought that he might not start Game 4 tomorrow night. Still, Quick did allow six goals in Game 3, including five in the second third period. Only twice in his two-year stint as the Kings’ clear-cut No. 1 goalie did Quick allow six goals in the regular season, but Murray dismissed any idea that Quick should shoulder significant blame for the loss…
MURRAY: “Heck, look, when you give up five goals in one period, everybody’s got to be better. You need a spectacular save. Some of those goals, he had absolutely no chance on. They’re dot-to-dot passes, lateral feeds that are for one-timers. That’s where you need an extraordinary effort, save. So you don’t look at your goaltender and say that he’s the reason why anything happened. It’s six guys on the ice. It becomes a real team loss, if you want to put it that way, in that second period. Again, it was no good. It was embarrassing, the way we played, and we’ve got to move on.”
As for Quick, he did what goalies are trained to do: look ahead.
QUICK: “I thought we were over it after the second period. The playoffs are games where you can’t sulk, you can’t think about what could have happened the play before. You move on, and I thought we did a good job of that in the third period. We came into the locker room a little disappointed after the second period, but I thought we rebounded pretty well in the third and we played a pretty good third there. So that’s it. … There’s no reason not to feel upbeat. We’re playing in a tournament right now that everybody wants to play in. We have the opportunity to be a part of this, and there’s no reason not to be upbeat. We’re not down 3-0. It’s a 2-1 series. We’re right there. So tomorrow is going to be a big game and we’ve got to be ready for that.”
It falls on Penner. C’mon, you knew it was coming
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Stuart Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
@Whodawat, I think you meant it “calls” on Penner
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Oh yeah Quick, there’s no reason not to be upbeat, other than the fact that last night your team participated in arguably the biggest collapse in Kings’ playoff history.
I understand while you’re still alive in the playoffs it’s gauche for the players and management to say anything other than the standard optimistic fare, but it’s so obviously BS.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
@Lanny McDonald’s ‘Stache,
Second biggest collapse in NHL Playoff History…
But, who’s counting?
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Erik4Kings Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
He said Kings, not entire NHL Playoffs…
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
@Lanny McDonald’s ‘Stache, I think what he’s trying to say is:
1) It’s the playoffs, and you never get too high or too low, if you’re gonna survive
2) It’s not like we’re in single-elimination or anything, so we’re not panicking–in fact, we started picking it back up and putting it back together in the 3rd period.
…and I agree….
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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
@Lanny McDonald’s ‘Stache, So what do you want them to do? go sit in a corner and suck their thumbs for the rest of the series.Make it go away ,make it go away.
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none of those goals were quicks fault. not one of them. they were defense breakdowns and he bailed the kings out of a bunch more…
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
@kingsfaninSB, None of them was his fault, but as with the rest of the team, he’s got to be better. Seriously, he needed to make one or two of them, but instead, he had an average night.
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Lanny McDonald's 'Stache Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Precisely.
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Duckhunter Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, I agree… and I also agree in order for us to win this series he HAS to have 3 lights out games!!! Those calling for Bernier…I see Quick and him as equal…we’ll see who moves forward….really no matter to me I just want to see one or both do it (would be a lovely problem).
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kingsfaninSB Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
@Duckhunter, agreed with all of you guys… im comin down from school for the game tomorrow GO KINGS GO! math 5a section < Kings playoff game
mrbrett7 Reply:
April 21st, 2011 at 8:32 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, No offense, but which one could he have had? Seriously…there wasn’t a single one he actually had a prayer of saving.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 21st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
@mrbrett7, ANY of them! I’m not saying any of them was a bad goal. I’m saying he had to be more like the guy who stopped 51 shots in Detroit when the team needed it. It’s the stereotypical case of why you need a goaltender who’s standing on his head for the playoffs, because performances like the last one are going to happen, and that’s when a goaltender is supposed to step up.
To be clear though…the loss isn’t on him, but he’s got to be better along with everyone else.
mrbrett7 Reply:
April 21st, 2011 at 12:21 pm
@mrbrett7, Dude…serioulsy. Nobody could have saved any of those. Ask the possible, not the impossible.
oscar Reply:
April 21st, 2011 at 1:37 am
@kingsfaninSB, So where does Quicks responsibility fall, or any goaltender (for that matter)?? How in the heck can none of those goals be not his fault?…come on, I am a Quick fan myself, and yes, there are times he bailed this team out and has stolen other games, but on this occassion, none of it happened and a couple of those goals he, I am sure, would of wanted back. This is a team loss, but Quick played only average and no better and could and should of stopped at least one of them. If that happened, we would of won.
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Rich, it was five goals in the 2nd period, not the 3rd. God forbid, that would have been even more depressing.
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i dont blame Quick at all
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Pesus Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
@KingsFanFTW,
I dont blame quick either, it was terrible defensive coverage. On the other hand I give alot of credit to the D for the shutout in game 2. If u read my posts u know who I blame. How about a time out? Or a goalie change? I dont blame nietmi for the richardson goal but he got pulled, not cuz of bad play but the sharks coach had to send a message to his team. Wish our coach sent a message to our team. I was at the game and the 1st peroid was the best experience I’ve had at staples. The place was on fire!
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Before99 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Gotta agree!!
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According to Quick the Kings should feel “upbeat”??? While last night’s collapse wasn’t Quick’s fault, that is a very foolish statement. The team should be beating themselves over the head over what happened last night because it was completely unacceptable and likely means that their season is over. A team that expects to win doesn’t feel “upbeat” simply by making the playoffs. Moreover, feeling “upbeat” would be the last feeling that a team that expects to win should have after handing a game away in a playoff series. That’s mind boggling.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
@Jack Meyhoffer,
How do players who have spent two days “beating themselves over the head over what happened last night”, then turn around and play playoff level hockey?
–Jest asking!
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Jack Meyhoffer Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, I don’t care how they do it. That’s their problem. They are professionals and should be fuming about what happened last night. For Quick to say that the team should be feeling “upbeat” is crazy. What do you think would happen to a goaltender in Detroit or in some other city where the fans demand excellence from their team if he would come out with a statement like that? He would be run out of town.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
@Jack Meyhoffer,
Naah.
Can’t say the Detroit goalie situation is settled, or is playing overly well… Bad example.
Still, your anger is justified. I mean, if us fans have our way we’ll run TM, Penner, Quick and a few others out of town, right now…
Of course, there may not be enough players to fill a team, then.
Oh well.
Duckhunter Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@Jack Meyhoffer, Fuming maybe…but if you beat yourself up over it you’ll play too cautious and make even more mistakes…I don’t think “upbeat” is what you envision “upbeat” to be maybe he should have said “we remain focused on our goal of winning game 4″ instead of maybe what some fans want to hear or expect to hear “we will never get over this loss as long as we live” (door slams and constant sobbing heard)…I know which camp I’m in.
Kings x Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
@Jack Meyhoffer, It’s maintaining a positive attitude and not letting the negativity of the last game creep into their heads to affect their future play. Down 2-1 in the series, they can tie it up tommorow. They have to remain upbeat and positive for the psychology compete component. I think its an accurate statement and the sign of a veteran goalie and team professionalism. They know they got smoked and embarrassed. And had all night to think about it or to lose sleep over. They were there. On the ice. You know. Thrashing enough. Focus on the positives forget the game out it behind you. If you don’t then they are done.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
@Kings x, WORD!
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Adri Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
@Kings x, Well said!
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Player-X Reply:
April 21st, 2011 at 6:46 am
@Jack Meyhoffer, Just because you are not over it doesn’t mean the team is wrong for moving on. Kind of a foolish complaint, really; of course they are not happy about the loss, and probably did “fume” afterward, but the mature thing to do is take the pain, and move on. Try it.
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I mentioned this last night on the post game radio show. How do guys sit next to penner and lace up their skates knowing that Pener is just gonna mail it in during the game. You have guys like Brownie, Richie, Simmons, and a 19 yr old Clifford who’s fighting grown men and leaving everything on the ice. Penner has to be the big pink elephant in the locker room with his teammates. Everyone sees him but no one wants to talk to him. Trade him next season for a bag of pucks and a few used water bottles. Guys a joke…..!!
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twnclick Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
@Tmagz37, I think you mean the 800lb gorilla in the room. Since he skates like one I figured that would be a better anal.
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Tmagz37 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
@twnclick, He not only doesn’t produce squat, last nights game winner proved that he’s also a liability
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Jeff Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
“I figured that would be a better anal” a thousand responses come to mind, I’ll stick with the classic Michael Scott—That’s what she said.
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Scot Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
@Tmagz37,
Your post sums up exactly the sentiment I’ve been repeating on here, yet continuously get attacked about. This team does not have proper leadership in place. Do you see Dustin Brown challenging Penner to pick up his play, or saying anything to him at all? I don’t. Penner is older, and kind of carries himself like a lonely bully. The leadership on this team doesn’t have the cajones to approach Penner. I see a guy like Matt Greene, however, sitting down to have a heart-to-heart chat with Penner.
Captains like Lidstrom, Iginla, etc, are the types of personality who take control of their teams in the locker room, and talk to players if they feel it’s necessary. I see just about no one in the Kings locking room stepping up. All that being said, I’m not in the locker room, so I can’t say this with certainty. It’s just my “outside looking in” perspective.
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Duckhunter Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
@Tmagz37, Wonder what would have happened if he’d been in Detroit with Yzerman and Chelios…would he have even gotten out of the locker room last night??? I kind of expect he would have at least looked like Clifford about a week ago after his shot to the eye.
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Jack Meyhoffer Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
@Tmagz37, I’ve actually wondered the same thing for a few weeks now. Penner seems to be an enigma. The guy needs to be given a reason to be motivated. Reminds me of the scene in Full Metal Jacket when the platoon gets together and whacks “Private Pyle” with the soap in the blankets. Maybe Penner needs that.
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Drink Reply:
April 21st, 2011 at 7:52 am
@Jack Meyhoffer, I don’t remember that working out so well. Maybe I missed the alternate cut where pyle becomes an excellent soldier and the drill serpent goes on to win coach of the year, I mean lives.
I have to imagine he’s been talked to but does anyone think penner is the type of guy that just needed a little tough love and he gets over his slump. He seems to run on his own path. I just hope TM finds a way to redirect his path in the right durection. I don’t doubt that he can, I just hope its tonight and not this summer.
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If anyone can forget a game an bounce back with a strong game it’s the goaltender. If anything the team needs to apologize to quicker for the surrender at staples effort they put forth in from of him. Make it up to him. Make it up to the fans
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Tmagz37 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@Kings x, Great point. Those few games where Quick was brutal, he stood on his head and was the best player on the ice the following game. He’ll bounce back
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@LAKingsInsider– Go goalie! Quick’s response is so adherent to the task at had…that is, playing a great game tomorrow night! I admire his statement…he said “feel upbeat,” absolutely the series calls for more games and the stats are apparent! Muay! For Quick and hugs for being an exemplary teammate!
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Any thoughts of there actually being curse on the kings?? Taking the Great One out of Edmonton may have upset the hockey gods and the curse could be on. I mean, guys guys like Boyle and Matt Moulson (just to name a few) that don’t do jack on the kings then kill the second theyre traded….? The writing is on the wall….
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i blame the score board.
and penner.
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vplaza Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
@jkking,
And Kenny G.
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Mike Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
@jkking, LOL! Absolutely it was the scoreboard!
and penner.
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wavesinair Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
@jkking,
That malfunction was a horrific bad omen.
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I think the deck band on the titanic has reincarnated themselves into a certain southern California coaching staff. I shaved my playoff beard, y’all. it was itchy and i needed to shake things up, unlike our coaches and their status quo line-up. …and the band played on… shock me Kings, shock me please.
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that interview is a key example of why he’s a kid with the chops to be the #1 for a long time coming.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
@harglebargle, Strongly agree! His emotion doesn’t swing wildly. It’s all about how he’s going to do on the next play. It’s not about last play, not last game, not last year.
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If our defense could figure out how to defend the trailing 3rd or as we saw last night the 4th guy who is ALWAYS open for a cross ice/seam pass for a clean shot on goal then the outcome of last night and game 1 would be different. we got beat on the same damn play in two overtime games! How can a team on a consistant basis allow another team to set up and execute the same damn play over, and over, and over again! If you watch the previous games you will see it. Its redicullus IMO! Its pretty much clockwork and at this point we have not shown that we can defend it so they will keep throwing it at us! I dont blame quick as he has stopped it more than let it past him but the other 5 guys on the ice need to pay attention and stop that damn play before they even have a inkling of setting it up. check out the games, it happens at least 3 times a period.
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Kings x Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, I wish we had that offensive play. It kills us every time. It’s like a set play and sooo deadly
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Whodawat Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
@Kings x, I got two words for you and it rhymes with Pustin Denner
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I got my rant out so…………..Lets go Kings! we are still right in the thick of it and even after last nights breakdown i have more confidence that we can beat SJ than i did before the series started. Lets do this!!!!!!!!
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Since I haven’t read the previous articles I will ask the most obvious question to me. Has Murray accepted his responsibility for not calling a timeout to try to “right the ship when it started taking on water”? Andy Murray was a genius at knowing when to call a timeout and get the players back on course. Terry Murray doesn’t seem to know what a timeout is.
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vplaza Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
@just my opinion,
He didn’t. He said that he thought the TV timeouts were enough. LOL
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I’m the biggest Quick fan on the planet. We’re here cause of Quick. But we need to get “snapped” out of it and NOW! I think you play Bernie next game, let Quick and the team reset.
That was the most painful game I’ve seen since the 93 series. Cut our hearts out!
Need to reset, play Bernie for a game.
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number 6 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
@Garrett,
It’s pretty well documented here that while one superman save might have helped, essentially there wasn’t one single goal that was his fault. On the fourth SJ goal I couldn’t believe my eyes. The Kings were running around all over the place. I’ve seen them look disorganized on occasion this season, but that took it to new heights.
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YoBro Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
@number 6, Goodness, if your goalie gives up 5 in a period, and everybody is so quick (pun intended) to NOT point a finger at the goalie is absurd. He could have clearly played better, and I, for one, am not willing to give him a free pass. He better tighten it up tomorrow, and stay on his frickin skates, or I’d prefer to see Bernier after that.
Go Kings
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All I know is that pretty soon it will be 24hrs since the game finished and that makes me happy. Time heals all.
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This just makes it more painful, but why isn’t the league on top of this? The 5th goal for SJ never went it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hskOrzx_wWc
Many have brought it up here and I found this link to the vid. Look at the last 5 seconds. The puck hits the FRONT of the crossbar and bounces in FRONT of the goal line! Heck, I was like everyone else, worried about the tank job we were in the middle of to notice this, but the REFS should be noticing this stuff!!!!
They were so intent on the last 10 seconds of the first period with the clock and delaying the game so much to fix it, yet a reviewable non-goal isn’t given the time necessary to double check it? What was Toronto doing during all this? Sleeping? Aren’t they supposed to hotline the refs to stop play and get a review going?!?!
I know you can’t change it now, but this should be reported on, at least to the ref crew that night! That tied the frikkin GAME! Kind of an important call during an epic meltdown!
Just kind of tells me that the ineptitude of the NHL demands we win HANDILY every game to advance in the playoffs. Really sad.
I apologize for helping to drive the knife deeper. All credit to those before me who posted about it. They were right!
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number 6 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
@Cynic,
I DO NOT BELIEVE IT. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT. It WASN’T a goal. Another slight though on the Kings. How did no one have the calm to point it out to a ref to get a video review? Who does That fall on? That is a travesty. That is an absolute travesty.
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Whodawat Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
@number 6, Honestly, with the way things were going i doubt it matters. That game was destined to go down in SC playoff history as one of the biggest choke jobs ever.
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Mike Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
@number 6, Where is Toronto on this??? I thought that ALL goals are reviewed. Why wasn’t this one? How can the Kings let a “non-review” happen? At least a perfunctory “no conclusive evidence” review or something!
THAT doesn’t make me happy at all, but it just goes to point out my belief that as time goes on and they “technology” up the officiating more and more that the quality of officiating goes down and down.
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Mike Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
@Mike, I mean, the referee was standing right there on the goal line and called it a goal. Again, what are these referees looking at?????
Erik4Kings Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
@Cynic,
This has my wheels spinning. Now I want to see, because being at the game live, you definitely don’t have slow motion and good angles to reference, lol.
I hate the NHL “review” system if you want to call it that.
1st, all stadiums have different camera set ups so it makes it impossible to always have good angles, some stadiums are better than others…so lets get that aligned…
2nd, get rid of the Toronto “war room.” The NFL has done just fine with referees over turning their own calls and…they actually do it quite a bit.
3rd, make all goals reviewable, and make the reviews when we have TV timeouts, kill two birds with one stone…
4th, give the coaches one challenge a game, whether a penalty call or a goal…
5th, FIRE GARY BETTMAN!!!
That is all. Thank you.
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Mike Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
@Erik4Kings, The Toronto war room is nothing more than a “rubber stamp”. Its a waste of resources, in my opinion.
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Duckhunter Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
@Cynic, Should it have been reviewed yep!…looking at the you tube video…even I would have to say inconclusive…overhead view would be nice…still looks like it was tucked just underneath the crossbar…and the reaction of Quick (no pipe thunk)…no reaction from DD tells me they knew it was in…put those all together and I would say goal…but probably still should have been reviewed because this is the playoffs and at least give King fans at the assurance no conspiracy.
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Mike Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
@Duckhunter, Good post, nice and balanced. Couple of points: 1) “no pipe thunk” does not mean it didn’t hit the crossbar. Because we didn’t hear it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. 2)the mere exercise of having Toronto review it, while I agree should have been done, again, does NOT mean that it gives any measure of assurance that there is no conspiracy.
But they should have reviewed it. I thought ALL goals were reviewed, especially in the playoffs. I don’t know why it wasn’t.
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number 6 Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
@Mike,
I think upon further review
that you guys are right. It definitely to me did not look like it went underneath the bar, but even if it did it absolutely should have been reviewed.
Erik4Kings Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
@Cynic,
Holy cow…that wasn’t a goal. Wow…WOW!!! That being said, there were 5 others we had a chance to prevent, so I won’t cry foul over it. It sucks the refs made and NHL made a serious mistake in such an important game, but everyone is human, I wish NHL could be perfect, but fact is, it’ll never happen, no matter how much replay either.
Also, I myself am a referee and have worked a ton of games. I can tell you for a fact, that did not go in and if it did, not completely in, not at all.
One, the net does NOT move. NOT at all.
Two, The cross bar is round, if the puck hits anywhere at the “halfway” point (part of cross bar directly over goal line,) the puck will go in, completely in too.
Three, the reason there is no “post” sound is because the puck was fluttering, therefore, when it hits the crossbar, it didn’t have the standard momentum, spin, or alignment to make the “ting” we would have loved to hear and that makes it hit low on the cross bar once, then again which kicks it out, but at best, the whole puck wasn’t in the net.
The worst part is, even if it was reviewed, it wouldn’t have been overturned. Sadly with the proof having to be 100% conclusive, and full speed being way too fast and no overhead (which would make it open/close) it would have been inconclusive anyway..which sucks, but again, we had 5 other chances to keep them from winning…
As the great golf legend, Gary Player has said “Thats not luck. The harder I practiced (played), the luckier I got.”
DD and Quick’s reactions don’t mean anything. Neither of them were able to see where the puck hit. Quick had his back turned and DD had his head down…
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I still believe!! In 3 games we’ve outplayed them for the majority. For having a team with Weak offense and missing our best player we are scoring in bunches against these guys. I don’t see any reason why that will change on Thursday. They are lucky it isn’t 3-0.
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Any one see the reply? 5th goal “scored” by SJ?
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Coach mentioned that Poni moved up last night for a few shifts instead of Penner…..I dont remember seeing that and I was at the game…..Also … we will see tomorrow if Murray is a good coach..if the way he has handled the lost yesterday and how the team responds will tell me if the Coach has a handle on this team…
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Erik4Kings Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
@neil,
I hate TM, but he isn’t lying there. Poni came up on the first line for two shifts in the third. I think Penner was just gassed…and TM is protecting him by saying he was just giving Poni shifts…um…TM, you have a 4th line, they can all use an extra shift…not just Poni…excuses, excuses…
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Both teams were garbage last night. Maybe a few goals were legit. It’s Over!! Lets line up tomorrow night and get after it! One period at a time! One shift… one shot.. one hit!! If were going to dump and chase then lets DUMP AND CHASE WITH PASSION!!! The fact is the Sharks could be facing elimination had the Kings done some things different. Who would have thought it was going to go like this???? GKG!!!!! You guys deserve much better then to fall to these over hyped INDIVIDUAL sharks players. We have a better TEAM!!!
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Quick,
Hopefully next time your under seige someone remembers that it’s O.K. to call a time out and refocus the team, and stop the bleeding, because apperantly if you give up some goals during that span, your not doing enough to help us win. Sad to see that, that’s how San Jose handled it when they were down 4-0 and took control of the game after that, and won.
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What is the similarity between the Phoenix Coyotes and the L.A. Dodgers…… you know the answer!!!!
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Penner is dead weight.
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OMG!!! THE PUCK NEVER WENT IN THE NET!!! WHAT HE F#$%^@#$^@#$CK!!!!!!!!!! LOOK FOR YOUR SELF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hskOrzx_wWc
Thanks to “Cynic” for posting it!!!
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Cynic Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
@LooknAtyouBabe, Thanks to the ones before me who mentioned it. Totally escaped me until about 15 minutes ago.
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OttoKing Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
@LooknAtyouBabe, I almost wish I hasn’t seen that. How did NO ONE see this? I didn’t, but I just assumed it was in because of how the game was going.
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LooknAtyouBabe Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
@LooknAtyouBabe, False alarm… I have looked at it a bunch of times. I think it did go in. I looked at it on my DVR and it did go in. The angles on the youtube video make it seem like it didn’t. It went into the upper right side of the net and bounced out very quickly.
Sorry for sounding the false alarm…
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mr. sofite allowed 6 goals… need i say more?
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Player-X Reply:
April 21st, 2011 at 6:53 am
@jofa6000, no, and please don’t, Mr. Spelling Error that expects perfection only from others.
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Coaches have been known to pull goalies when the TEAM is playing lousy. Should have pulled him after 3rd goal. Murray you answers are pathetic
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I do not know if anyone posted this earlier, but it is common practice when a game is going badly to change goaltenders. Nothing against the goalie, but as a wake up call to everyone else. Although TM likes to juggle lines, he refuses to change personnel unless forced to by injury or suspension. Bernier only got slightly more ice time than Ersberg down the stretch, and when was the last time Harry or 44DD played? Christmas? People play better when they know someone is after their job.
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Mike Reply:
April 20th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
@edwood2, Well, pulling goalies certainly worked for San Jose last night!
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Ok I just watched the TSN coverage in slow motion on the PVR, and, lets quash the rumors, it went in. They have the replay from directly behind the net, and you can see where the net bulges right next to the post where it went in. This actually makes me feel better.
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April 20th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
@OttoKing, can you post a link please? I’d like to see it from a different angle as well.
Thx!
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Not yet, but if it doesn’t get posted somewhere I will try to get it from my PVR.
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April 20th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
@OttoKing, Sorry, that was supposed to be a reply.
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April 20th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
@OttoKing, OH. Did you mean DVR? LOL! I thought PVR was something TSN had on its website or something. I’m in acronym HELL! Or does PVR actually mean something else?
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Alas TM is joined at the hip with quick and will live or die with him, you can’t teach fundamentals like positioning to someone that is a reactionary goaltender like Kelley Hrudey and Johnathan Quick. This is why in the long run Quick will hit the road most likely via trade as he won’t settle for being a number 2 and when along with this TM is gone as well, Bernier will finally be given the ability to flourish. Has anyone noticed how much more comfortable the team looks in front of JB versus Quick, love JQ all you want as a fan, team member or coach, but you can’t take that quality away from JB regardless of the love.
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@Kingsfanforlife, It looks like you’re right!
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