Throughout his career, there haven’t been a lot of mysteries about Dustin Penner. In his two previous stops — Anaheim and Edmonton — Penner has been praised for his immense talent and come under criticism for inconsistency on the work-ethic side of the ledger. The Kings acquired Penner from Edmonton on Feb. 28, in exchange for prospect Colten Teubert and two draft picks. Penner had two goals and four assists in his first seven games with the Kings but now has failed to record a point in eight consecutive games. Injuries to Penner’s two initial linemates, Anze Kopitar and Justin Williams, haven’t helped the issue. After practice today, Terry Murray said he was pleased with Penner’s game Saturday against Dallas, which came after Murray had a chat with Penner about work ethic…
MURRAY: “I liked what he did below the tops of the circles in the offensive zone last night. Actually, I talked to him about it on the ice, after the practice was over. We did have a meeting the day before, and reviewed different areas of the game and what’s required. I thought his intensity and his strength on the puck was exactly what he needs to keep building on in order for good things to happen. Don’t worry about the goals, don’t worry about the assists, don’t worry about the points. Bring the work, bring the intensity, bring an attitude in that offensive zone and good things will happen as a result of that.”
Question: In terms of the work ethic, were you seeing enough?
MURRAY: “I was not. I’m not going to be stick-handling around it. I was not, and he knows that. That’s what it’s all about, to me. You’re a pro athlete. The number-one thing you have to do as a player is bring work, every day. Everything else will fall into place after that. If you have that kind of an attitude, to do the things that are necessary off the ice, on the ice, in the offseason, you make hard work a part of your life. That’s what you do, so that when get on the ice, it’s just instinctive and you play that way. So I needed to see more. That was the basis of the meeting, and I liked what I saw. I saw the improvement. I saw a greater intention to get things accomplished in the offensive part of the game. So it’s a good start.”
I couldn’t agree more with everything murray says here. I’m so happy he’s a king and I can’t wait to see him next year with a full year of kopi
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Happy Lappy Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:01 pm
@roadtripper, so far I’m NOT too happy he’s a King and I AM Happy (Lappy)!!!
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pitty Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 8:03 am
@roadtripper, I dread having to sit through a full year of Penner if he plays like this. I would rather see Poni on that top line at least he can skate, has some energy and is willing to hit someone.
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 8:47 am
@pitty, I wonder if TM would have the satchel to bench him if he started off playing like a slug?
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Hope Pens takes this to heart, I would hate to see him turn into another Brian Boyle
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LBlocal Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
So 21 goals in a checking 3C position makes Boyle a bust? Better go recheck my stats…
Maybe its time for JMFJ, DD8, Stoli28, Poni3x20, Captain Canada, AND Dusty Penner to be invited to the “called out – bring your ‘A’ game” Terry Murray party…
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NoDoughty Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:10 pm
@LBlocal, on the Kings he was, wouldn’t use his size to check etc…. that’s what I’m driving at
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jofa6000 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
@LBlocal, agreed.
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Luke M. Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
@LBlocal, Brian Boyle was within an inch of losing his job with the Rangers. Had it not been for him hiring a skating coach and putting in a LOT of work to earn a spot, he wouldn’t be on their roster. Sometimes having a second team ready to give up on you forces you to evaluate yourself more honestly and you’ll find the determination to get the job done. It’s not like Boyle went to the Rangers and suddenly became the player we had all hoped he would be for the Kings. He knew there was a part of his game that required improvement, hired the right person to help him and worked his butt of to keep an NHL job.
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LBlocal Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
@Luke M., With respect. So why didn’t the Club provide ‘skating development’ with BB while being employed by the Kings? Doesn’t much matter anymore, eh? (Unless a 6’7″ checking centerman would be useful right now?!?!?)
gKg!
Slim Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
@Luke M., Yes…
A Figure Skating coach no less….
mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:05 am
@Luke M., @LBLocal…they did…the Kings did. When you’re a coach, when you’re a coach of a minor league hockey club, you’re job is not to coach one player. You’re job is to coach and develop 25+ players and prepare them, if possible, for the NHL, meanwhile, win games.
Boyle had talent, and always did (I personally liked him very much and didn’t want to see him go). HOWEVER, it was up to him to see that talent through. All the coaching in the world couldn’t make a 6’7″ 250lb. man move his ass.
Even after a 21 goal season with the Rangers, he is still a 4th line center, and a fringe NHL player at this point in time.
pitty Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 8:08 am
@Luke M., I guess Penner has not had the same motivation then because his skating is awful and I don’t see it getting better. He makes Jason Alison look like Apolo Ohno on the ice.
EJ Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
@Luke M., don’t forget that there’s just a natural maturation process that is different for every player. It just so happened to take Boyle “x” amount of time to reach that point, and that was just longer than the Kings were willing to wait.
RoyalPain Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 11:24 am
@Luke M.,
@pitty Maybe Pens should hire Apolo Ohno as his skating coach…
“i’m not going to be stick-handling around it…”
a pun for pens…???
actually…i wouldn’t mind seeing pens stick-handle his way out of “it”…”it” being the traffic in the middle of the slot and “bring da’ noize” to da’ net…as t.m. is wont to prefix…
possible hockey rap from da’ coach…?
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Honestly, is seems Brown is the only one out there that has given it 110% for the past few games.
Penner showed us what he is capable of – It showed again on the ice Saturday. He had some very nice stick handeling moves. I hope this guy can put a few more in the net! JEESH.
Go Kings Go! To the playoffs we go!
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ValleyKingFan Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
@KingsGuy, Lewis too.
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KC23 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:11 pm
@KingsGuy, and Richardson … DD as well
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
@KingsGuy, I think, to be fair, you can’t knock the defensemen’s efforts. We’re still looking for the forwards to put more into their game. Lewis deserves no criticism, nor does Brownie, and I’m seeing a lot of new life out of Smytty. Zeus is doing what he can, and Stollie always seems to. I guess it comes down the the wingers who haven’t been named (and aren’t on the 4th line.) Poni, Penner and Simmer come to mind.
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KingsGuy Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Ya, I wasn’t trying to knock the efforts. IMO we as a team have been putting forth a great “effort”. Mitchell, Doughty, Scuds, ETC… Just seems that for the over offence of the team, Brown is out there every shift going after the puck and trying to stir things up, while others seems to be a bit laxidasical.
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Most fans at one point or another have issues with Murray (e.g. revolving line combinations), but you’ve got to admire how Murray deals with underperforming players. I don’t think he humiliates them but is pretty constructive. Very objective and not emotional–probably exactly what some guys need…
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number 6 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
@Steve S.,
You hit it on the head. That’s precisely what he does. Especially in a case like this where it’s a new player, yet he doesn’t hesitate to express himself. Maybe on some level Penner will see that if he further ensconces his reputation here as a sometimes on sometimes off player, he’s not gonna be doing himself any favors for his future and becoming eventually a free agent.
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HD Kings Fan Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
@Steve S.,
Exactly, as I read what TM said I thought I have said this about so many athletes ” You’re a pro athlete. The number-one thing you have to do as a player is bring work, every day.” That is why we pay and you play! Great comment!
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capt jam Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:54 pm
@Steve S.,
Totally agree and well said on your part. I think it also helps the overall team chemistry that TM doesn’t throw his players under the bus that is often the media.
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DLB Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 9:04 am
@capt jam, he doesn’t?
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Ravens Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
@Steve S., As I remember this is exactly the reason we got TM to build a team from the ground up the right way, and not make head cases out of them,,,like some of the past memories of our beloved Kings
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jason Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 4:25 am
@Steve S., i’m just curious why i havent seen a discussion of murray talking to jack johnson all season.. he hasnt been bad lately but hes had some times where i wonder why his play wasnt being addressed
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:07 am
@jason, Probably because save for a play here an there, JJ has been one of the better players on the ice game in and game out. Stop looking at statistics, as they are misleading.
Not to mention, how do YOU know if Murray has or has not spoken to him?
God I really miss the days of no internet.
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fsd1 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am
@mrbrett7, understand!
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
@mrbrett7, I don’t think the stats are all that misleading. For all the crap Doughty has been getting this season, JJ has been far less stable.
mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
@mrbrett7, @Kenneth…I think they absolutely are. JJ isn’t above reproach, but, he doesn’t often (nobody is perfect) make mistakes that directly lead to goals. In fact, for the most part, most of the guys on the team don’t. The fact that people in this forum feel the need to complain about 1 goal every game really drives me batty. They are professionals playing against professionals. The guys they are playing against are actually pretty good, and when you play defense, believe it or not, you’re going to get beat every once in a while. It’s simply numbers.
Doughty is another story, IMO. I can live with mistakes. I have issues with mistakes when they are mistakes that you continue to make, and you know you shouldn’t be doing those particular moves (i.e., it has happened to you previous times, on multiple occassions). Johnson has made his mistakes. But, so has Greene, so has Mitchell, so has Scuderi, so has Martinez, so has Kopitar…so has every member of the team. Pointing out one player on a team is pretty stupid, IMO.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
@mrbrett7, I, for one, haven’t complained about JJ’s mistakes for a long time. Yet, to say the stats are somehow “wrong” in reinforcing the belief that he needs to spend more time on his defensive discipline is just ignoring the proof that what most of us already know is true. This doesn’t detract from the obvious fact that everyone makes mistakes.
Off topic, there was just like 7 guys on the ice for the stars for like 3 seconds and no official called it, not even the one sitting at the bench, that was a call that u can’t miss… What’s up with the refs?!?!
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variable Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 pm
@Guss,
i just commented on that on the other thread…
wow…unbelievable missed call…unreal…
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Guss Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 pm
@variable, yea, unbelievable.
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NoDoughty Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
@Guss, Any Kings fan that is surprised by this OBVIOUS non-call hasn’t been watching ANY Kings games!!!!!
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Guss Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
@NoDoughty, I have not missed one game this year man, that’s why I said what’s up with the refs?!?!
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NoDoughty Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
@Guss, my sarcastic point is how can anyone still be asking that question? It has become the tragic norm for me
Guss Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
@NoDoughty, Hahaha, true, ill get there , it still surprises me.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
@Guss, yea they doing horrible but its the Ducks who cares
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jofa6000 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
@Guss, stars paid off the refs
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DesertKing Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 9:12 pm
@Guss,
Slurpees, 2 for a $1 at the 7-11 right down the street from the replay booth. Double the brain freeze!
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The improvement to his work ethic probably has something to do with finally being put together with Brownie.
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John Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
@Dominick,
That was a VERY effective line yesterday! In fact, I liked all four lines – keep it up boys!!!
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Stuart Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:17 pm
@John, I just wished DB passed it more often than never… but alas
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KC23 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
@Stuart, Pictures Brown reading this and looking up “hockey pass” in the dictionary.
Well, it’s appears the Kings won’t be clinching tonight. The Ducks are laying a pretty fat egg over in Anaheim. Penalty after penalty! Perry just scored so I am shocked it is 4-3 at this point.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
@Mike C, its not over yet the ducks might make another 3 point game stupid them
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Guss Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
@KingsFanFTW, hope that doesn’t happen, I kind of want Dallas to win, I think we can win 1 more, and that would be 2 back to back tough losses for the ducks that would hurt.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm
@Guss, yea i want the Stars to win
we can clinch the spot we dont need help from the Ducks at all
John Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
@KingsFanFTW,
Exactly, we don’t need their stink’n help – plus they play San Jose next, so if they lose tonight & that game it’d be nervous time for them
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:40 pm
@John, yup even if we root to the Ducks they couldnt even get the job done like they say u have to do it ur selves to get the job done
Slim Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
@Mike C, There is still 1 period left and their
is unfortunately a lot of fire power on their 1st line..
It ain’t over by a long shot…
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I agree with Murray and what he said however stop protecting this guy, every other player plays without Kopi and JW and do just fine. If he needs the best players to play with he shouldn’t have been traded for, do not protect him in fact make him earn it on another line first.
This is crap that a professional is not playing up to his potential as his two potential linemates are hurt. Heck get out there and play with everyone, make it on your own Penner, don’t be pampered with Kopi.
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Hat trick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
@Harty, Totally agree and I’ve been saying the same thing since day one with Penner. I think I was saying put him on 3rd line and work his way up.
I don’t get it either. Shoot if I had the opportunity to play pro hockey for $200k/year I’d be all over it! These guys get millions it’s crazy and he’s just crusing around??? Last night’s game he did step it up. He made some real strong plays down low which was really good to see for a change.
School’s out Penner it’s time to Go To Work!
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Think of Ribeiro scored 2 goals, what difference it could be at this point if he has been suspended by the hit on Zeus. The league is totally incapable of defining the criteria. It’s beyond absurd.
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puck73 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
@goldielocks, Totally agree ! Also, how the hell did Douglass Murray of San Jose get off scott free after he gang tackled Visnovsky last night ? Did you see Carlyle after that non call ? I thought he was gonna bust a cap in those refs !
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:11 am
@puck73, As long as the NHL allows these types of hits, it will continue to be viewed as a 2nd tier sport. End of story.
We all love the NHL, however fans of other sports (Baseball, football, basketball) laugh at the NHL, for instances JUST LIKE THIS.
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
@mrbrett7, I don’t know, fans all over the world laugh at MLB for refusing to use their available resources to get calls right, too. I didn’t see the “hit” that you are referring to, but most fans of other sports don’t even have the foggiest of slightest ideas what our sport is all about. They think it’s boxing on ice and most are too rigid to stop and pay attention to a game let alone try and understand the nuances of a game. We need to stop worrying about what “other” sports fan think about our game. It’s not for everyone.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 11:09 am
@puck73, What ticked me off about both these hits was the obvious deliberate use of the elbow. Both players should be missing games over that.
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well? I know that a Shmuck win tonight gives Kings a automatic berth. However am I the only one that is rooting for Stars to win? Hear me out. Ducks lose and it keeps them further behind us. Blackhawks lost today so they are #8 right now. I for one would like to see the Shmucks as that #8. That would give them a series vs. Canucks. Plus they have a huge game on wednesday vs the Gupies. Last nights Ducks-Sharks had a bitter ending so they will be giving each other a beating. Then, friday and saturday Kings-Ducks will be huge!….There is a slight chance Kings can even either knock them completley out (pending Stars next few games) or Kings putting them as #8. This is gonna be a big and interesting week. I say we clintch on our own tomorrow night….and then take 4th place with home ice by wednesday…GO KINGS GO!
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
@RQ@315, am rooting for the Stars to win ur not the only one
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RLane420 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:10 pm
@RQ@315, Go Stars. The Ducks are to be hated on. Never root for them.
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Kings win, Ducks lose Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
@RLane420, As you can tell from my name, I agree!
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John Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
@RLane420,
Yep NEVER!
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Dominick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
@RQ@315, A Stars win almost gaurentees a Pheonix 1rst round match up with us, because if the Ducks lose 2 to us they wouldn’t have enough points to pass Pheonix.
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RQ@315 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
@Dominick,
I hate to admit this but as we all know; the team that finishes hot every year is the team that does some damage in the playoffs. Not the team that kicked butt all year (Im looking at you; Canucks)..I have noticed the Ducks finishing as that hot team. I kinda dont care to see them play a Kopi/William-less Kings in the first round. I welcome a Yotes series….and im kinda rooting also for Ducks to lose the rest of the way.
In the 2nd period…that dork Hayward said: “Get your playoffs tickets, now!…Honda center will be the place to be”…well i hope it backfires and Duck fans are left at the alter and force them to have to go get in line for refunds….
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Dominick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
@RQ@315, Ducks goaltending is suspect. Are you saying you’d rather see Bryz?
RQ@315 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
…AND THAT IS WHY I DONT WANT THE DUCKS IN THE FIRST ROUND….EVERY, AND I MEAN EVERY DUCK GAME IVE SEEN LATELY HAS THESE LAST MINUTE HEROICS….(fortunetely…not tonight)…..this game i just finished watching was nerve-wrecking….WOW!
PK Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:46 pm
@RQ@315, I was thinking the same thing. There’s NO way Dallas gets in.
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You know with all this postulating…
I’m getting Paralysis thru Analysis.
Say that 3 times….
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Dominick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm
@Slim, In front of the mirror with the lights off.
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Slim Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:27 pm
@Dominick,
While only wearing a pair of Bauer Vapor X20′s
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Stuart Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
@Slim, LMAO!!! The hockey gods laughed as they watched you!!
HOLY CRAP!….WOW!…THIS GAME IS NUTS!
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I can’t believe what I just saw..
Thought that goal was it.. Even Homer’s agree..
Wow
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Slim Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:36 pm
@Slim, Another no goal.. holy Kafoally..
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What? Ducks are getting mugged.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:12 am
@Dominick, Naw…both the correct calls.
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wooot the Stars rob that game LMAO
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Kings win, Ducks lose Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:40 pm
@KingsFanFTW, YES! Ducks LOSE!
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That was some finish…Yikes..
Stars win..
So now what?
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
@Slim, win our next game and we are in no matter what
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Happy Lappy Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
@Slim, hey slim, I was rooting for the stars the whole game. I would rather keep the separation between us and the ducks going in to the final 2 games with them.
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Wow … great officiating. That was tough to call.
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Slim Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:07 pm
@goldielocks, How often do you hear that?
Great officiating….
Boggles the mind..
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KC23 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
@goldielocks, Actually, it was great officiating. Both calls tough and both correct and against the home team. About died laugh at that older lady with the silver dollar eyes going WTF!?!?!?!
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:13 am
@KC23, hahahaha…I did the same. Someone needs to teach her the rules.
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Jamesonafterawin Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
@mrbrett7, Ahhh, have you ever been to a Dorks game and listened to the fan’s.
Last time for me I listened to a dad give a math lecture to his son for the first 30 minutes of the game, they left 10 minutes after that, the Kings lost that game.
My point being, they have allot of casual hockey fans.
I’m going to the game on Friday (and Saterday), not excited about Friday, but it is the Dorks fan appreciation night. Wearing all my Kings merch..
And I wanted Dallas to win as well. No matter the circumstances, I want the Dorks to loose.
And except for the ’2 many men’ not being called, that game was sone of the best offiating I’ve seen this season.
I really want to do that stupid owwwww o weeee owwww thing every time the Kings score on Friday. Isn’t that a Brave’s thing from like twenty years ago?
So much for a 1rst round match up with the Ducks. Looks like Nashville or Pheonix.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:44 pm
@Dominick, still might be the phx play against us after their 3 days break plus they play back to back against the Sharks
Ducks still got a chance
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Dominick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Not if we kick their butts 2 games to close out the season.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
@Dominick, true i hope we do i mean i hope we do it badly
For those watching the STARS/ducks game, the refs got it right on both non-goal calls. Koivu did interfere with the goalie and Corey dropped the puck with his glove but never touched it with his stick. They are crying foul in Anaheim right now but the refs got it right IMO.
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Happy Lappy Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
@Mike C, and the duck announcers agreed on both, what a rare occurance
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Mike C Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
@Happy Lappy,
Yea, I heard Hayward too. If he thinks the refs got it right, he was either drugged or it was dead clear the refs got it right. LOL!!!!
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John Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
@Happy Lappy,
Hahaha I know huh, not sure if I was more shocked by that, the great refereeing or that it happened!
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Jamesonafterawin Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
@Happy Lappy, Yeah, but it tuff for them to admit it.
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What a sweet last minute in that game… Quacks get two goals nullified & LOSE! I’ve never been so happy to not make the playoffs!
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Mike C Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
@Kings win, Ducks lose,
That was a fun last minute. Both goals were properly disallowed though. After replay on both it was crystal clear.
And the Western Conference battle continues…….
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Slim Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
@Kings win, Ducks lose,
I think that what you said is a double negative…
So true..
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Goring 19 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
@Kings win, Ducks lose, quack fans were whining about 2 wiped out goals that were what they should have been, wiped out. If the quacks fans really understood the game, they would see from the replays that those were the correct calls but typically, they’re nothing but a bunch of whiners just like their announcers even though homer hayward and the other guy admitted the calls were right.
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Rich,
I know the Monarchs might bring up Toffoli but what about Linden Vey?
is there any talk about the WHL point leader getting called by Hextall?
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mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:14 am
@Paul G, Good question, and I would think so as soon as his season ends (is it still going?).
Both need to be signed to a contract first though.
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Finally, a horrible non goal that goes the way of our crosstown neighbors instead of us. Ducks defense gives up a lot of goals again. If they face a San Jose or Vancouver in the 1st round, it’ll get ugly real quick. Even if the Ducks beat the Guppies and we lose our next two, we only have to beat them once in the home and home series to finish ahead of them.
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Mike C Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
@Bailey Fan,
I didn’t think it was a horrible call at all. Both goals were properly disallowed. I thought Dallas played with more urgency and therefore outworked Anaheim for the win. I would be biased because I wanted the Kings to have clinched a playoff spot, but gotta call it like I see it.
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Bailey Fan Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:52 pm
@Mike C, yeah, I just watched the replay, and it looks like it was the right call. disputable though because lehtonen was outside of his crease
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CNL Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 pm
@Bailey Fan, Are you kidding? He was right on the goal line. Even the homer announcers seemed to begrudgingly go along with it.
mrbrett7 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:15 am
@Bailey Fan, Textbook interference call on the goaltender. My only question is how can there not have been a penalty on Blake?
What’s so sweet about it was breaking the Duck fans hearts TWICE
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
@Happy Lappy, yup it was i wish they Kings can break them completely
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When did this turn into a Quacks blog?? Just sayin.. (KIDDING)
gKg!
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Mike C Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
@LBlocal,
LOL, cute. ONLY because it had playoff ramifications for the Kings. Otherwise, I would have been clipping my toenails for 3 hours other than watching a Duck hockey game.
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Jamesonafterawin Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
@Mike C, O don’t be that way! And I really dislike the Dorks in o so many ways.
I relate watching a Docks game to looking at gruesome auto accident photo’s.
It’s repelling, but interesting.
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Darren Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
@LBlocal, ha no kiddin! GKG!
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Can u believe3 that 10 teams in the Western Conf. will have 90+ points?
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xeropoint Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
@Happy Lappy, Yep. Happened last year, too.
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Mike C Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
@Happy Lappy,
Yep, Calgary hit it tonight and Dallas still has 4 games left all against non-playoff teams. Wow!! What a crazy season for the Western Conference.
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We have to get the regulation win tomorrow and get this playoff party started!
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With all the Ducks great goaltending they’ve had thruout their history, right now is the once in a lifetime opportunity to catch them with their pants down. I wanted them in the 1rst round so bad I could almost taste it. Light travel, Emery, not so stellar defense. I think we could have taken them.
Oh well, what can you do.
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Mike C Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
@Dominick,
I know it’s still a long shot, but the Kings can knock Anaheim out of contention for a playoff spot. That is if Dallas wins all 4 of their games against non-playoff teams. I’d rather see that. That’s a serious F-U to Anaheim.
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Dominick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:12 pm
@Mike C, I would rather face them than any of the other teams like Nashville, or Pheonix with their great goaltending. Chicago is a disappointment waiting to happen. No way we see Dallas, so out of those 4 teams the Ducks would have been the best match up for us, with their goaltending and defensive woes.
If you guys really hate the Ducks I think losing to us in the 1rst round would sting for a lifetime.
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Jamesonafterawin Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@Dominick, And vice versa
frazier king Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 pm
@Mike C, So in joyed watching there fans and coach in agony lol,twice.
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frazier king Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:11 pm
@Dominick, We match up with the yots and preds better.
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Dominick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 pm
@frazier king, Not even close. Bryzgalov is scary, and Nashvilee we could probably beat, but no way we match up to them better than we match up to the Ducks.
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frazier king Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:20 pm
@Dominick, with the ducks goal-tending issues you are probably right plus a 9 game freeway playoff would be nuts.
Mike C Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
@Dominick,
It’s a tough call, really. The Ducks have more offense than either the Preds or the Yotes. But their ‘D’ and ‘G’ are definitely lacking. But playing Nashville and Phoenix with an already depleted offense on LA’s end isn’t gonna be easy either. We still need to score some goals.
Dominick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Yeah nothing we could do about it now, but if I had my choice, I would rather face a Ray Emery than Pekka Rinne, or Ilya Bryzgalov.
Bailey Fan Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 8:57 pm
@Dominick, Yeah, I would have loved a Kings-Ducks series, but now they’ll probably have to win out just to get to 5th, which would come at our expense, which means we’d probably end up in 6-8. Luckily, the Preds end their season with cupcakes and we haven’t really had big problems with Rinne this season. Hoping for a Kings-Preds 1st round.
I’m outta here, GOOOOOO KINGS!!!
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Put him with Simmonds and Handzus
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Bring on J W and 4th place ,good times kings fans plus miss van and the redwings in the first round lol.
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Saskatoon Blades just won their series on a game six OT winner… Schenn is going to be busy for a while
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threepwood Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
@Kings win, Ducks lose,
He’s not coming this year. Period. The end.
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Dallas wins, Ducks lose, –and I like it…….
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kings-preds 1st round? I’m good with that
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I just dont get why is everyone afarid of the Coyotes Goalie yea he good i admit that
But i believe we can win against him too Antti Neimi is a better goalie than he and we score still so why are we fearing Coyotes if we fear Coyotes than matter as while say u have no faith in the Kings
am sorry but i just dont get it if we lose we lose still got more years but i believe We can take the Coyotes they cant score just like the Kings so it will go to who has a better goalie plus u dont know into the playoffs starts
We might get kick out by the Ducks or Nash its any team that can knock out any team
I believe we can win against the Coyotes
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Bill M. Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Maybe it has to do with our record vs Phoenix this year, when compared with us vs Anahiem, San Jose, Nashville, or even Detroit?
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 9:23 pm
@Bill M., yea if we win on Weds it would be 3-3
Ducks tied with us 2-2 “still got two more games”
Sharks 3-2 “the sharks could win one to make it a 3-3″
Stars 4-2
Detroit 3-1
Canucks 2-2
Blackhawks 0-4
Nash 3-1 “Bernier was in net for them all not Quick”
but that the Season record has nothing to do with the Playoffs ever team different
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Shotongoal Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
@KingsFanFTW, I agree my man!! Kings will smoke PHX in 1st round. Then bring on anyone after that!!!
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The Batman Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 pm
@KingsFanFTW, i agree with you in that we can beat them but Niemi isn’t a better goalie than Bryzz
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 11:43 pm
@The Batman, find if he not better then we score against Tim Thomas and he number one in the league so we still can score against the Coyotes Goalie
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am
@KingsFanFTW, not so fast Tonto… Bryz has had our number for a long long time now. I will be very glad if MON ends up signing him in the summer!!! He can and might steal a series and I don’t want it to happen to the Kings.
KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
@Stuart,fine lets be afraid of the Coyotes lets just let go of hope
Well am not like u guys who cares that season ever player plays different u watch we might give them hell or they end up gone either way
we still got one more year if we dont play against them who u think we face next round an easy team u cant go easy all the time u got to be test
I forgot 3-2 and still got one more game the players that made us go down we scored 1 once 2 and 3 Quick was off his games the only reason when he found his game look what happen we won and i think we can do it again
All of Orange County should be on flash flood alert because the drought is over. You know that after that finish, all the Smucks fans are out there “crying me a river.” At least the officials got the calls right. I found it interesting that they mentioned that the Kings/Dallas game was the only one of the season where there were no power plays. Too bad we can’t get all of our games to go without any PPs.
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
@DesertKing, lol yea i know
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jess Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
@DesertKing, Isn’t OC just one large never ending mall?
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Right on the mark, Mr. Murray. Penner has looked un-interested and lazy for several games now, to myself and several of my King’s fan friends watching at home and at Staples. Obviously he is very talented which makes his lack of effort even more confusing. Hopefully he heeds your advice to “bring it”
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Ribeiro should be suspended just for the way he wears his hat in the post-game interview. 110% punk
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How crazy is this Western Conference race! I thought for sure the Ducks would win. Dallas wins despite having Marc Crawford (what an awful coach). I like this result. Smoked Duck, Chicago loses, and the Flames win. Wow.
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Poorman Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
@Poorman, I think Penner is going to come up big.
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Kenny44 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 pm
@Poorman, I agree. He’s not Rick Nash, which is apparently what some people were expecting, but he can be unstoppable around the net. He does need someone to get the puck to him down there, though. Penner is a very valuable and unique asset, but he’s not the kind of player to dominate possession of the puck, go end to end, or run around nailing everything that moves like Brown. He’s tough to play against in his own way and creates space for his teammates in the offensive zone.
Poni took a while to adjust to TM’s system, too. Everyone thought he was lazy, at first. Obviously, that’s not true. I think it’s the dogmatic emphasis on playing it safe that inhibits these guys a bit until they get acclimated.
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Stuart Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am
@Kenny44, and since Zus is the only that would be able to “complete” a pass to him in the Ozone, I don’t see him being set too often. I was watching the game again, and paying specific attention to our first line and it occured to me exactly why DB can’t/doesn’t pass: he skates N-S with his head down. When he gets moving it’s full-steam ahead with his head down until he hits the circles, at which point he either a) get off a shot attempt, b) loses the puck, or c) takes it around the net only to pass it up top.
The other day someone compared him to Morrow or even Neely (I think it was Puck or number6) but that was terribly wrong!! I watched Morrow too. Much better handles and plays with his head UP.
Anyway, on this line, Penner needs to learn to demand the puck and make something happen with himself. He did take the puck on the wall and manuveur pretty well around quite a few people.
aDjustment period…
KC23 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 10:58 pm
@Poorman, I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Penner seems like a thoughful fellow and maybe he does a little too much thinking out there on the ice. I dunno–seems I recall Penner’s pensive mention of being in the “house of dog” with more than one coach. I’m minded of the great hockey quote by some scout about some prospect, “He gets to the wrong place on the ice faster than anyone I’ve ever seen.” I like Penner’s game but am pretty sure the quote’s not about him. One thing, instead of chasing the puck–which is likely a waste of energy mostly–when Penner doesn’t think he can catch up with the pick he he will instead will play positionally and establish space further up ice.
(I thought Penner looked confused/thougtful a few times as Moller freelanced from his RW over to the LW boards but then I’d like to hear it from someone more knowledgeable like a King’s coach or player as I’m not totally sure Moller was playing out of position from his RW. Looked like it to me anyway).
(FYI, telling Hammond is not exactly quietly taking the player aside for a private talk. Lt’s seehow Penner responds in the next few games)
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We are so lucky to have Penner. Even if he hasn’t been hot lately, we really need someone on the ice that the opposition suspects is a scoring threat. Right now, he’s the only forward. Handzus and Smyth are hardly “threats” despite rugged dependability. Stoll is a SO nightmare, but isn’t too scary 5-5. Sure our D is pretty offensive: Johnson, Doughty, Martinez, and lately Mitchell, but who really looks at the Kings’ Simmonds and Lewis and thinks – “Yikes”?
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Bonvivant1 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 7:40 am
@jonsey, I agree with you but you must also consider that these players can sneak up on you. Match ups won’t be difficult for opposing team during the playoffs. They know we have limited scoring depth. That may work to our advantage though. It’s relatively easy to shut down top players during the playoffs. Some players granted will step up and make plays. It’s our depth players and any teams depth players that will ultimately determine the success of a team during the playoffs. Those important goals scored by Ritchie, Simmer, Lewis will make the difference in a series. We play a style that will wear on teams. Games are going to go to overtime. I think we will better equipped to win those games. Making a long run is improbable without our two top scorers but we can certainly have the depth and defense to get us past the first round. Phoenix or San Jose will likely be our first round opponent unless we have a complete melt down.
Penner is going to have to be the player that opposing coaches fear.
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So? Here is a scenario…I just saw that stars still have 4 games left. BJ’s, Aves(x2), and Wild. All 3 teams outta playoffs. So no implication if it’s a 3 point game. If they go 3-0-1 (7 points: doable) for a total of 96 points, then bhawks win 2 ouuta there last 4 for a toral of 96 points also, and let’s say Ducks lose wed vs sharks and then split with Kings (hopefully we win both) that gives them 95 points. Are u following?…hehe…guess who gets to knock them outta the playoffs next Friday or Saturday?… Oh! Please let it be….GO KINGS!
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How can a professional athlete traded to a new team in the midst of a frenetic playoff push not find it within himself to work as hard as possible??? No excuses for this guy. I have seen enough already to want him gone by next year. The fact that TM had to speak to him about his work ethic says it all as far as I am concerned.
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KC23 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 11:00 pm
@rick, Exactly. I’m not impressed at all with this guy.
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friarking Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 12:03 am
@KC23, same here. It seems like he did better in a situation when his team wasn’t expected to win.
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Kenny44 Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
@rick, He was flying around pretty nicely when he first got here. I haven’t noticed a lack of work ethic. When he’s engaged with an opponent, he plays heavy. I’ve noticed a player that looks like he’s had the reins pulled back, told to play above the puck and don’t go chasing offense, etc. Same thing with Poni earlier this year.
The Kings haven’t had many bona fide power forwards. It would be a shame to chase Penner off. Reserve judgment at least through the playoffs. He has a ring and was an impact player in that run. I’d love to see him get another ring with the Kings.
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rick Reply:
April 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 pm
@Kenny44, You make some good points, but surprised you haven’t noticed his work ethic issues. From the comments on here, a whole bunch of people have witnessed it – obviously TM included. I don’t want the guy run out of town, but I having a difficult time watching someone who looks to me like a classic underachiever on a team full of overachievers.
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Poorman Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 3:58 am
@rick, Excuse me. He’s won a Cup. I think all this criticism is unwarranted. Give the guy a chance. I like him, and think he’ll be good in the playoffs.
DLB Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 9:14 am
@rick, TM came down on him pretty hard when he was producing points, yet making some defensive mistakes.
Half the fans disliked Frolov, too, now look where the third line is without his puck possession. I bet TM would take an allegedly ‘disintrested’ Fro back in a heartbeat now if he were healthy.
rick Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
@rick, Poorman – your logic excapss me. If he was on a team that won the Cup, that means he cannot be a lazy player??? He was on Edmonton the last few years – worst team in the league – does that make him a crappy player???
we’ve got some 20+ goal scorers on our team now that disappear for a few weeks from time to time. we still love them and even more when they come storming back. it looks like penner is going to be like this too… hopefully. of course he could turn out like poni in our system too. we need a 40 goal scorer so we can turn him into a 30!
but look at the caps. they had a big scoring team last year and this year their GA are way down but they’re offense is way down. But they’re more ready for the playoffs.
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if we can take four points including 2 in regulation against phoenix we should take fourth some home ice in first round.
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Don’t know if anyone is up at this time of the night, but if you are, then Good morning or late night to ya. Kings need not to worry about anyone other than themselves. Sharks game is huge, if just for the fact that a Win in their tank would be Awesome. The Coyotes game will be huge just for the fact that I’ll be there Live in The Greenroom watching the game with fellow Insider fans. Last 2 Vs Ducks , I don’t need to say anymore. Wow people, what a season it has been. Here we are still not in the Playoffs needing to win at 1 more game, with 4 to go. Crazy, for a team who just 3 years ago didn’t have a pot to piss in. We really don’t say enough about how Brown and Kopi have turned us into a winning club. Most of us can feel that we are getting all so close to The Cup. I haven’t been this passionate about a sports team in a long time. Growing up in Redondo Beach it was always, The Dodgers and Lakers. When The NFL was there it would be The Rams and Raiders. That Rams team that went to the Super Bowl vs Pittsburg was pretty crazy also. UCLA in Basketball and USC in football. For the most part we LA fans have been spoiled with winners. I love it living here in Salt Lake and rooting for my childhood teams. There’s not much to do here but fish and watch LA sports on Cable. When it comes to the Kings though it becomes different. I have been a Kings fan since I was 10 years old. I became hooked the first time I saw them vs The Canucks back in the old Forum days. Never have I wanted a team to win a Championship more the my Beloved Kings. Being a fan, the hard years were tough. Knowing you could go to many other entertainment venues as you would like. But No, I would listen to a young Bob Miller just as I would listen to a young Chick Hearn and root my Kings and Lakers. Growing up in a family of Baseball and Football fans was tough also. But still I’d be the only kid in Redondo Beach looking for an ice rink so I could learn to skate. Took up roller blades and join a league. Would’nt you know it they always put me in goal. Kings hockey Yes, I’m still passionate about all these years later. I don’t know why the Hockey God’s allowed be to be a Kings fan and there have been many years I could of jumped ship and rooted for someone else, but no it’s always been the Kings. Winning a cup would be the greatest thing of all for many of us and that day will come, but as I think back on this night I can’t help but smile for all the players and fans who over these last 40 odd years how have held their heads in their hands, pleading to the Hockey God’s, Why, Why. Finally we have a club who we can say we have been with and watched them grow into a contender and make a run at that Silver Cup.It may take a little longer or we may just have an incredable run and Win it this year, Who Knows. Like many of you I’ll be watching and doing my part as a fan to cheer this club on. If by chance things go sour it won’t matter because when I say Kings 4 Life I mean It. Play hard Ice Hockey Boys and let’s see what happens. Thanks to whom ever has read this post. I really don’t know what got into me tonight, I just started typing and it came out. Hope I haven’t bored anybody and Goodnight.
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kingfish Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 2:21 am
@kinginsaltlake,
see below, wrong button
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KC23 Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 2:27 am
@kinginsaltlake, There is no such thing as a fair weather Kings fan to be sure. I’m a native So Cal guy and been watching since 69 and when the Kings win the cup it will be my favorite sports moment ever. So far my favorite is the 1980 Olympics win over Russia, but watching Brown, Kopitar and Doughty dance around with that cup with be a dream come true.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 4:16 am
@KC23,
For me, seeing Bob & Jim sobbing & hugging will be magic!
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Poorman Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 4:53 am
@kinginsaltlake, Epic post dude! I can barely skate, but for some reason, my favorite sports team has always been the Kings. I discovered Kings hockey while watching TV, and thought it was such an exiting sport. Shortly thereafter, I started to go to games at The Forum by myself, because no one else wanted to go. Then I’d get there, and more than half the crowd would be cheering on the Kings opponent. Eventually, when I got on the radio at KROQ, I had Blakey, Corey Milen, and Warren Reichel as guest love doctors on my show Loveline giving love advice the year the Kings played Montreal to win the Cup. I also interviewed Luc, Darryl Evans, Dan Bylsma, and Lappy when they were Kings. I’ll always be a huge Fan whether they win the Cup or not. Now, I really like Rich’s blog. It’s ridiculously addicting! The Green Room parties sound great. I wish I could get tickets. Are there any left? I would guess if the Kings ever win the Cup, it’ll feel the same as when the Red Sox recently won the World Series the first time in 83 years.
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Happy Lappy Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 9:06 am
@Poorman, It’s funny how many of us have had experiences with the Kings. I was so not into hockey, my brother’s best friend was from Canada, so he gave my brother the hockey bug. My cousin was engaged to Derek Sanderson in the hey day of the Bruins, so he gave me tickets to see the game. That was it for me, hooked after one game! My brother was a sports journalist in college and managed to get our local newspaper “the Daily Signal” to give him a media credential to cover the Kings. Since my brother was a Harness Racing Horse owner in later years, he had me doing some weekend games to cover for him. Soon he became a stringer for AP, again I was filling in. I got to know the UPI writer (UPI no longer exists) and I was covering some week day games for him. So, did the games, had my Walter Mitty experience of locker room interviews with some of the greats in 1980 thru 1990, Marcel Dionne, Luc’s rookie year, the Gretzsky trade. Anyway, since we are all lovers of the game and in particular, the KINGS, I know for a fact that there are no greater people than hockey players. We live and die with their successes and failures. I feel the fans of our Kings are our brothers and sisters because we are a special breed of fans, we never give up on them no matter what. I’m proud to count myself among you.
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good post, yeah not much longer. this team will get there soon enough. Lombardi has finally put a great culture and identity into this franchise. the future is bright
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Just off the subject. Woke late this morning. What woke me up? I was dreaming that Drew was running the clock down in overtime to force a shoot-out with the Sharks. Miller and Fox were commentating about Quicks wins in the shoot-outs this year being flawless.This is a good dream, but not with 4 1/2 minutes left on the clock. Yeah, I woke up, to a cold sweat. Why so stressed over a dream that I didn’t finish. Drew was the only one on the ice.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is the CUP in LA yet?
Lets bring it Home Boys. GKG
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Pili Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
@steveoviper, You’re not the only one dreaming hockey lol. It’s funny, my friends make fun of me for being such a Kings hockey freak, but this blog has shown me that there are other freaks out there that live & die Kings points like I do. Thanks for being out there, guys
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While we are watching with interest the actions of other teams, we just need to remember that our fate is in our own hands. Tonight’s game is going to be tough and ugly. Most of us will suffer significant anxiety for the the 3 hours it will take for the Kings to win. When it is over and we have locked down our spot in the playoffs, some will relax, while some will move on to stressing over who we will face in th 1st round. Meanwhile, many of us will be hoping that Penner becomes our secret weapon in the playoffs. We all know what JQ and our defense can do, but our offense and PP have always been questionable all season long. If Penner could be the piece that changes all of that and plays to his potential, we can make a serious run for the Cup. We don’t need much, just a point per game from him and good puck possession time. Hopefully TM has his attention and he can step up, just like he did when he first arrived here in LA. GKG!
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maybe he just doesn’t want to be a king and he’s putting out as much effort as he needs to to get bye
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If you look at Penner’s carrer stats he averages out to 25 goals and 20 assists, which is where he’s at right now. That’s his game, nothing more, nothing less. I love the statement, “He has the talent to…” Talent is one thing, getting the breaks is another. I’m not saying he’s going to be great, but just understand what you’re going to get out of him. There are times this year where each and every player has been missing. Heck go back 10-15 games ago and you couldn’t find Dustin Brown out there, now you can. What this team needs is a guy who leads game in game out. You know like a Messier type up front, someoene who won’t take crap and call the team out on there crappy play.
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Penner needs to take his head out of the sand and start playing! No excuses, if you can’t find room with the puck then use your body to generate momentum and create space. Right now Penner is a non-factor on this team. It’s time for him to step up!
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Take Murray’s little talk to heart, Dustin. now’s the time to step it up and show that you still deserve to be an NHL player. You need to think about your legacy. I can’t believe that you want to be remembered as that guy who wasn’t willing to leave it all out on the ice each and every game. Maybe you’ve been saving it all for the playoffs, I don’t know. But I do know this much… with your size and hands, you could be on the scoreboard every night. Stop dishing the puck off every time you touch it like some nervous rookie. Take it to the net, bull your way through, and leave bodies in your wake. We need a winger who’s going to park in front of the net and take whatever comes to get a chance to whack in a rebound. You can be that guy, Dustin. Just show some heart…….
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When the hell did we trade for Penner? I didn’t even notice
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