Terry Murray’s postgame thoughts…
(on winning after giving up the late regulation goal…)
MURRAY: “I’m not disappointed and I’m not surprised that stuff like that happens. I’m watching games in this league right now and it is incredible what is happening late in games, overtimes, shootouts. We would certainly love to have it shut down, when you have a faceoff at the offensive blue line, offside dot with 11 seconds left. You’d like to feel that you can do that every time, but things do happen. They’ve got some very good players and they came, they just rushed us with five, six guys and got the bounce that they needed.”
(on Dustin Brown’s game…)
MURRAY: “He played good. He played very hard, very intense and that’s a big part of a captain’s responsibility, is to not only be a good player but to lead the way with intensity and compete and put the extra effort in to help a team get the job done. It was a solid game by Dustin Brown here tonight.”
(on the power play…)
MURRAY: “That’s what you have to have on the power play. In the offensive zone, you’ve got to recover pucks, you’ve got to be intense and move it around, make it do the work for you. We had a shot mentality in the early part of the game that was like the way it was in the last game, which was tremendous, and that’s just where you have to stay with that. You get people in front of the net, like Brownie, you’re going to get results at the end of the day.”
(on Jonathan Quick bouncing back from the late goal…)
MURRAY: “Quicker, to me, that’s one of the strengths of his attitude, his makeup. He’s able to bounce back from goals he wishes he could do over again, or a game that isn’t so good. He’s mentally tough and he can get himself refocused. You can see at the end, in the shootout, when Brownie is going in for his shot, (Quick) does not lift his head. He has bowed his head. He’s looking at the ice. He’s just getting his concentration up, because he knows he’s got one more shooter and he got ready for it. At the end of the day, he made some huge stops in the game and, obviously in the shootout, did the right stuff for us.”
(on Oscar Moller’s game…)
MURRAY: “Oscar, I thought for the first game in a long time here, he was really good. Composure with the puck, made plays, strong with the puck. He used some speed and, on the power play, he had great composure to move it around and generating opportunities. So, a strong game.”
(on Boyle’s shootout goal…)
MURRAY: “My view of it was that Quick’s stick hit Boyle’s stick. And I don’t know if it touched the puck or not. My argument was that it did touch the puck. If it did, then it’s a double hit and it’s an illegal goal. That was the discussion I had at the end there, too. It is a reviewable situation. If it does touch the goaltender and then it goes in, then it is disallowed. That was just a conversation. It was not a review. It’s the discretion of the referee to review it.”
“Yeah and so I thought of putting out one of my weaker face-off men..” Horrible decisions. Put Kopi out there on wing at times like these. Overall, it’s 2 points!
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
March 24th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
@Kingsation8, ye ai like Kopi but he not that good on faceoff wins
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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 12:26 am
@Kingsation8, Kopi won the face off Zeus was beaten to the loose puck by Couture which allowed the sharks to gain the offensive zone then bad luck took over,If anything Stoll or lewis should have been on the ice instead of Zeus with that much ice in play,i am very happy we got the 2 points.
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Stuart Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
@Bkrs-Bud, yeah, replay showed Zus was standing still while the shark was already throuh the scrum with the puck. Got caught super flat-footed.
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hockeypuck09 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
@Stuart, He was flat footed but it was because he also had to cover the weekside guy in addition to his wing coverage in case we lost the faceoff. I think Kopitar was there because he it a left shot and can pull backhand to the boards which is safer. Stoll and Zeus are righty’s I believe which puts the puck to the center. Just my 2 cents
mrbrett7 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:15 am
@Kingsation8, Uh…he has been one of the better face-off men all season, and he won the face-off.
However, he should have just gone forward with the face-off.
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Bickleton Wigglesworth III Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
@mrbrett7,
Absolutely, the play was to push the puck, an the whole scrum if necessary, forward and make the Sharks work to move it toward the Kings’ zone. Kopitar is great but that was the wrong move.
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40 year fan Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
@Bickleton Wigglesworth III, Every one on here missed the real problem that led to the last second goal.
SImmonds took a shot that should have not been taken. He had to puck in his control and should have skated with it behind the San jose net and did what he does best….control the puck and keep it away from San Jose. His shot led to a rebould that ended up giving them the opportunity they never should have had.
I’d love to be able to see the replay of Boyle’s goal. I wasn’t aware of the stick on stick, I was just watching the puck. But at least it doesn’t matter. Kings won!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 24th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
@KFII, I think Quick may have tipped it, but either way, Boyle pulled it back and shouldn’t have been allowed the shot after doing that.
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tantrum4 Reply:
March 24th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
@KFII,
I dont think Quick’s stick actually touched the puck. It kinda looks like Quick’s stick just misses the puck, but the puck hits a rut in the ice and bounces right at the same time. I can see why Murray would think Quick touched it but since we are at home and can see the replay over and over, I think the right call was made.
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Now, it’s your job to get 4 points out of next 2 games no matter what. I would fire you if I were a GM for that reason only.
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Paul M. Hedberg Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 12:20 am
@goldielocks, 94 points w/6 gm’s left is all that it’s about at this point.We now trail everyone else in top 8 w/just the 33 reg wins.If we full around & don’t make it he HAS to go.
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tuan jim Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 1:53 am
@Paul M. Hedberg,
What?
Don’t we have 8 games left? Are you assuming that we’re gonna pick up 4 points off games against the Oilers and the Avs, then have to scratch 3 or 4 more points out of games against the Ducks, the Stars, the Sharks, the ‘Yotes, and Vancouver?
Every game is going to be a bastard. Everybody already knows that. I wish more of our wins had not been gotten in shootouts, but those shootout points — 18 of them — have got us as close to the playoffs as we are now. And the teams outside the top 8 don’t have any more non-shootout wins than we do.
I don’t see us “fooling around” or not making it. If our problems are attributable to TM, so are our successes.
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Ten for instigating Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 4:36 am
@goldielocks, Because 18-4-5 in the last 27 shows he is a poor coach? That’s 41 points out of a possible 13.
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goldielocks Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 11:57 am
@Ten for instigating, Look at the schedule and tell me why we must not pick up 4 points from Col and Oil? How many games the Kings lost in those trap games after beating a formidable opponent? If that repeats, it’s clearly a coaching error. After next 2 games, Nucks, Stars, Sharks, Yotes, Sucks x 2 will be our opponents, and you still think we have a luxury to lose against Col and Oil??? I don’t think so.
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fsd1 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:14 am
@goldielocks, Now that is just a wierd comment, so, no comment
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:17 am
@goldielocks, Yup…and pigs will fly.
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I wouldn’t be surprise if the Kings go to the finals. This is really a good team despite a somewhat motionless powerplay, but it looks like they’re improving on it(more movement).
The absence of Justin Williams might be a blessing in disguise as it appears the rest of the team has picked up their game, but Oscar Moller looks real good. Kinda looked like he picked up Kopitar’s level of play, too. Moller, lotkionov, schenn, now vey and trifoli. Kings have a solid future!!!
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Don’t know what Dustin Penner was doing out there in the shootout, and unfortunately, he’s starting to live up to that reputation he has of being a guy who doesn’t bring it every night. Moller had nearly half as many shots in one night (5) than Penner has had since he got here (12). Moller also out-hit and out-worked both of his linemates tonight (though Kopitar did play decent).
Thankfully, Dustin Brown came to play again, and I really thought Smyth had his best game in about three weeks. He didn’t score a goal, but he was a distraction for Niemi on Mitchell’s goal. Still wondering if he’s injured, though. Also, Alec Martinez and Rob Scuderi were both solid tonight. Scuderi might be the most under-appreciated defenseman in hockey. He’s so tough to beat in his own end.
At this point, though we don’t want to see the Sharks get a point, I’ll take two points anyway they can get them. Great job, Kings! Don’t let up against Colorado!
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tuan jim Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 1:57 am
@KingMe20,
We might as well try Penner in a shootout, if for no other reason than to see how he does. I will admit that I was expecting JJ to be on the ice before Penner, though.
But it worked out — despite those @$$&*03$ getting that late goal and scratching a point outa the game.
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I notice in the last 10 games players are waiting for Quick to do the spilts and then shoot high! I think come playoff time Quick needs to ajust or we are in Trouble??? Just a thought…
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Blade17 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 6:29 am
@Sammuch, At times, he does get low and kind of lunges forward at close in shots with the glove, which really puts him out of position if he doesn’t hit the puck. This is a new move I’ve seen a few goalies in the league doing more and more…it closes the gap to the shooter, and as long as he doesn’t miss the puck it’s effective. But like you said, if the shooter has time to go high, it’s probably in
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:18 am
@Sammuch, He’s playing the averages…every goaltender does this.
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Wow, Captain Brown. What a game or what games you have been putting out there for a while now. I am more than impressed and very happy that you are our leader. Keep it up and we will go far. Thank You!!
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Murray! I hate what you’re saying here. Not disappointed! You damn well should be!
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fsd1 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:16 am
@DLB, Why? No really, Why? AAnthony?
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I actually disagree with AM here. He should be dissapointed. They should have won this one in regulation and he knows it. It’s ok for a coach to say that to media as his players know it as well.
Despite winning the faceoff, Kopitar made a big mistake out there by not trying to go forward, or simply just tying up the faceoff man from the Sharks. Even if you just tie him up, it kills a few seconds on the clock.
I’m happy with the 2 points, but these shootout wins are going to kill us.
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Forum67 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 9:41 am
@mrbrett7, I’m pretty sure the Ducks would have been delighted to be “killed” by a shootouy win last night.
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it seemed like the SO goal was being disputed cause Boyle went backwards…not cause of Quick hitting the puck… interesting
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 8:19 am
@neil, yeah…I had no idea what was going on. I thought Quick touched the puck on the first replay, then the 2nd time I saw it, I thought maybe Boyle went backwards, then the more I watched it…I didn’t think anything was wrong.
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DETROITSONS1952 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 10:52 am
@mrbrett7, He pulled the puck back a good foot and a half as he was moving to his right, then he shot. Goal should not have counted as the puck was not continually going forward.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 11:03 am
@DETROITSONS1952, If I remember the rule correctly, it’s not the puck necessarly…it’s about fluid motion. He never “stopped”.
That’s part of the problem though. The rule isn’t very clear at all (which is why the GM’s discussed it).
If I’m in the war room in Toronto, I’m barely looking twice at that goal. To me, it was a good goal…sorry, but I have to disagree with you there.
Did Quick touch the puck? I can’t tell…I think he did, but I can’t tell.
Did Boyle stop? He may have, but you can’t tell. You CAN pull and drag, which would mean your moving the puck backwards. I don’t think that is what he was doing there, but you CAN do that, which by your definition would make that a bad goal. If that is…Stoll’s is (he pulled the puck backwards before shooting). Brown’s is (he did the same).
The rules need to be re-written and be more concise and clear.
PP still flat-footed,immobile with poor entry. Sharks PP wonderful to watch…constant movement and actually use back of net. Tenacious win for Kings, probably out-played offensively,so room for improvement come the playoffs.
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Dave's a Killer Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 8:50 am
@The ZamboniMechanic, Kings 2 for 3, Sharts – 1 for 3. I’ll take the two, thank you
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The f-bomb he dropped when they showed him on the bench after SJ’s 3rd goal indicated he was a little disappointed. It was kind of nice to see some emotion from him.
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Stuart Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am
@DesertKing, totally!!! A dog-damnit right before too!!
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I am not sure about this, but is it me, or the coaching gets a bit stubborn at time. I just get the impression that some teams make adjustements to the Kings game, but we live and die doing the same game. I understand about following a system and having consistency in x and o’s, but I just get the feeling that we get outcoached sometimes. I know TM is a good coach and knows more than me obviously, but as an ex pro tennis player and tennis, volleyball and soccer coach at high level, my gut senses stubborness sometimes that could hurt.
I think the players determination, chemistry and skill is what carries us through some not so well coached games. In My Humble Opinion of course.
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fsd1 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 8:38 am
@Jack, so what did he not do last night? what should he have changed during the game that he didn’t?
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Jack Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 8:47 am
@fsd1,
I didnt necessarily mean last night. From what I saw, there was great intensity, but I couldnt finish watching after the first period. Its more of a contrast on what I perceive other teams doing. I need to think more, I am at work now, with watchful eyes uopn me…;-)
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DETROITSONS1952 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
@fsd1, He did not have Stoll taking the faceoffs in the critical situations but he did did let Kopitar screw it up.
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fsd1 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 10:48 am
@DETROITSONS1952, kopi is like 20 out his last 25 faceoffs, he was the right person to take the faceoff, he won it by the way.
Oscar is a different player now, I liked his game last night.
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Sebastian Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 9:40 am
@zdfun, Moller was good, he should have taken a shot instead of penner. gosh, what a terrible decision to send him out.
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Marc Nathan Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
@Sebastian, and if Penner scores, it was a great decision. You never know.
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Kopitar needs to take some lessons from Brown on how to play with heart and intensity and how to make things happen instead of playing like “Mr. Glide”
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fsd1 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 10:49 am
@DETROITSONS1952, oh my god, are you serious? you can’t be, kopi has no heart or intensity are you sure you’re not talking about some “other” team you watch?
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DETROITSONS1952 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 10:56 am
@fsd1, I’m as serious as a heart attck my friend, he is absolutely gutless, he glides instead of skating, he gives it up very easily and if you think I really don’t care for him as a player, you’re right, I’d trade him in a heart beat.
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DETROITSONS1952 Reply:
March 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am
@fsd1, Who would you rather have, Kopitar or Brad Richards, Logan Couture, Ryan Kesler, John Tavares, Nicklas Backstrom, or Stephen Weiss. All those I named get less ice time, less shifts and have higher face off percentage and two of them play for horrible teams and the others are not in the top ten. Oh and then there’s Alexander Semin, but he’s more of a shooter then the others. The majority of those I named, don’t play along the boards but they will go to the net and they all skate to the puck and not glide.
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If you really like the game as I do, then you watch for things that a player does in situations not just with the heart. To me Kopi is not and never will be a super star, although the front office and announcers try to make out that he is. I want the guy that makes things happen and Brownie makes more things happen then Kopi.
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what about forward progress? If you stop it’s blown dead i thought? Boyle pivoted and was moving backwards by the release of the puck…
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