Reaction to last night’s second-period booing — and Terry Murray’s “disappointment” in fans for expressing their displeasure — continued today. After practice, Murray softened his stance a bit, calling himself a “very frustrated coach” who knows that “it’s never the right thing to throw stuff at your fans.” Murray’s full reaction is below, but first, Drew Doughty talked about his reaction to the booing
DOUGHTY: “Booing us kind of pisses me off as a player, because every night we’re out there playing our hardest, obviously for the team but, at the same time, for them. For them to boo us off the ice, or whatever the case is, like I said we’re not just playing for us, we’re playing for them. We’re going to battle for them, and for them to boo us shows a lack of respect from them, but it’s a part of the game. Fans boo their teams all the time, so it’s nothing we can be really upset at.”
And Murray’s thoughts…
MURRAY: “I was very upset about how things went last night, with the way we played, right from the start of the game. The turnovers, being outbattled along the boards, dot to boards, giving up the great scoring chances we did. Our power play, right at the start we have an opportunity do something and we don’t. We turn the puck over, we got offside on it right at the start. There’s just a lot of things that were frustrating. And obviously the fact that we had six shots at the end of the second period was glaring at me the whole game. Then to give up that late goal, it was a reaction by a very frustrated coach. It’s just disappointing. That’s the last thing you want to hear, going into the dressing room. You’re trying to find a way to start a fire there, to get a good 20 minutes of hockey, and that’s what you go into the room with. You’re remembering that, probably as much as anything that has happened in the game. So I was frustrated.
“Look, I’ve said this many times. We’ve got great fans here. I know that. They mean a lot to this hockey club. They’ve brought a lot of energy and a lot of emotions to our games and helped us through a lot of difficult times. The atmosphere in our building, from the middle of the year last year, right through the playoffs, has been incredible because of the fans. I overreacted, probably. You don’t want to drag them into the reason why, but I did. There’s nothing I can do about it now. It’s never the right thing to throw stuff at your fans. I know that. It was a night to forget.”
Lets get the “Doughty’s fat” derp comments out of the way now.
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Ready for the Cup in LA Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
@Blue Coconuts, Doughty’s fat. i feel better now (as i shovel Cheetoes into my face).
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
@Ready for the Cup in LA,
..Or, a doughnut in mine!
–Go Dewey, go Dewey, go Dewey GO!
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Go Kings Go Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am
I agree 100% that booing the Kings was the absolute wrong thing to do and shows lack of class by the fan base. Yeah, if I paid $100 to watch, I’d be upset, but the Kings after the all star break have been fantastic. Only two other teams have earned more points. They are going to have an off day, let’s just be grateful that the two points didn’t go to a team we in a race with.
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Capt Jam Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
@Blue Coconuts,
ROTFL.
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Fuzzerson Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@Blue Coconuts, His age is showing through a bit
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Blue Coconuts Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
@Fuzzerson, I agree with that, he’s still young. He’s a few years younger than me, but if I was on the ice every day, I’d be getting fined for my big mouth all the time. If I had 18,000 people booing me, I’d let them hear my opinion, and there would be a lot of four letter words included in that rant.
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Moondoggie Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
@Blue Coconuts, I’d have probably changed the way I played the first two periods. Obviously the Kings didn’t….
JWR Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
@Blue Coconuts,
In other words Rich is a very good editor LOL.
RobSD Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
@Blue Coconuts,
Doughty looks a little like Rosie O’Donnell after the off season.
What Murray said makes complete sense. But, as a fan for many cupless years, a boo can make me feel better. They are paid professionals. Millions to play a game 3 hours every other day for 7 months a year. Should anyone really feel bad for them? Fans on the other hand don’t all make a lot of money and spend it going to games, buying jerseys and paying 10 bucks a beer. You know how much it costs an alcoholic like me to go to a game? That being said, GO KINGS GO. Let’s kick the beak off the OC pansies.
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Gary Livingston Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
@RobSD, ehhh, i would not overlook the intensity of travel and practices. That stuff isn’t easy even though the games are extremely fun.
Just saying it is not as much fun all the time as you may think.
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fourtunato Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
@RobSD,
All this talk of how much money they make and how little we make as a reason to justify booing your own team is just (with respect to my fellow posters who are all smarter about hockey than me) stupid. Everything is relative, well paid and poorly paid people in every profession are still people. I just hear so much envy about how much they make. If they made 18.00 an hour and chose to play in front of us I’d expect the same effort from them as if they were earning 8,000. an hour. The amount of money is immaterial.
I know I’m in the minority and I accept that, sadly. But on Saturday night I’m going to get there early and I’m going to stand and cheer them when they come in. I just hope we don’t give our good friends from Anaheim a reason to laugh hearing us boo our own team like that again while they are in the building.
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Dominick Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
@Blue Coconuts,
Nice!
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It sure was a night to forget! And I will also forget Terry Murray’s comments about the fans and move on. A frustrating night for all!
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kevin Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
@A-Man, you know what I forgot about till just now we gave up the first 5 on 1 I have ever seen in my life.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
@kevin, Quicker stopped it, too!
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Bill M. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Well they weren’t very effective on it. They looked like they had no idea what to do, with so many players on the rush. I can’t blame them either – who the hell spends any time practicing a 5 on 1?
kevin Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, I couldnt belive I was seeing that it looked like a D2 movie and the fly V had just been destroyed by iceland.
G$ Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Yep, then gave up some easy ones after that!
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@G$
ORLY? Must have missed it? What was your first clue?
jmiller Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
actually JJ stopped it, but if it got through i’m sure quick would have had it.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
@jmiller — Great take! I appreciate unvarnished truth, and I seem to have made a bad assumption. Quick was in the zone at the time, and probably would have, but props to JJ (I can’t bring myself to watch the replay, so I’ll take your word for it!)
Moondoggie Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, No…but he let in a 90ft untested, unblocked, unscreened slap shot from the center ice line. You don’t see too many of those either….
It was the worst game I’ve EVER seen a Kings team play. There is no excuse.
BTW – The fans DO have a right to boo, particularly after that completely inept performance last night. The SOG’s at the end of the 2nd told the whole story about the entire night, one of the few things TM was right about last nite.
Personally, I’d like to forget the entire evening but I can’t resist the image of a team skating in on our undefended goalie on a 5 on 1 break.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 10:04 am
@Moondoggie, Yeah, you don’t see many shots that skip a foot off the crappy Staples Center ice. Where have I’ve said the fans don’t have a right to boo?
Capt Jam Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@A-Man,
Ironically, it’ll be a night we’ll never forget.
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the_guv Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
@Capt Jam, I really freaking hope not
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RobSD Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
@A-Man,
Was that not a really sad breakaway attempt after the 5 on 1? Poni shot the puck from between the circles practically. That could have been a game changer. It was still 1-0 I think at that point.
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CupRun2011 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
@A-Man, …and here’s the toughest thing to take. They go on the road for the month of February, and lose 1 stinking game to the doormat Islanders, then they come home and give up 7 straight goals and lose to Detroit and a badly reffed game with Vancouver…then back on the road and sweep 4 games (never done in the history of this franchise)…so on the road they’re something like 12-1-3–they get us all pumped up being in 4th place and trying to overtake San Jose. Then drop a deuce at home to a 12th place team! I would be pissed at us booing, too!
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jason Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 3:11 am
@A-Man, if murrays comments bothered any man who plays hockey, i would question his manhood… he didnt say anything rude or mean.. i dont understand how the world and now hockey fans have become a bunch of sissies offended by anyone who shows emotion or raises their voice… wah… and many people who are drews age are still partying in college or working some crappy job.. hes still young and immature but hes lucky because hes making big money doing what he loves… i’m glad he has passion for the game and heart for the fans
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Drew: Put on your man pants and play.
Terry: Thank you, probably.
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G$ Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
@iceguy, Yeah, at least Terry came back and said it wasn’t the fans fault. They just didn’t play hard at all like Doughty was saying.
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EmptyTank Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
@iceguy,
I’ve always been on TM’s side when people start to deride him, but he’s starting to tarnish on me ever so slightly. A head coach in a professional league needs to, above all else, be able to motivate his players to play up to their abilities every night.
We were all geeked on the team after the roadie. Staples was buzzing with excitement and cheers from warmups, through the Anthem and all the way through the first period. But when you look up and see the shot clock at 3-24, NOBODY can be happy.
In my opinion, the boos were the fans’ way of communicating to the team that “hey, we’re disappointed in your performance so far!”. TM just needed to march into the locker room and say: “That’s your wakeup call boys! What more do you need? You guys have SUCKED out there for 40 minutes and 18 thousand fans agree with me! Now wake the hell up and come out on fire in the 3rd!!”
Instead we get: “You’re trying to find a way to start a fire there, to get a good 20 minutes of hockey, and that’s what you go into the room with.”
Are their egos really that fragile???
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number 6 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@EmptyTank,
I love your post.
I’ll repeat that….. I love your post. It isn’t soft, but I mean, what else can ya say.
You said it.
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Hat trick Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
@EmptyTank, My thoughts exactly.
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uknojata Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 12:59 am
@EmptyTank, you nailed it.
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Luuuuuuuuuuc! Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 6:16 am
@EmptyTank,
Best reply so far!
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EmptyTank Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
@EmptyTank, Apparently I’m developing a bit of a fan club
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Cynic Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
@iceguy, ROTFL
I could not have said it better. I would have said it longer, but not better.
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Maybe us fans were just as frustrated that we shell out our hard earned money to watch them come and fall apart after such a successful road trip. I for one felt cheated. There was no pride, no power and absolutely no passion.
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JKM Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
@GoonSquad, I agree with you. In this economic recession it takes a lot from us fans to go to theses games. We have the right to be frustrated too. If it wasn’t for us fans, there would be no team to play for or coach and Terry and Drew need to remember that one. Let’s us they play better Saturday.
This team is Bi Polar. You never know which team will be on the ice each night.
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“Booing us kind of pisses me off as a player, because every night we’re out there playing our hardest.”
If that was true, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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Sam Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
@simonsez, You have zero, less than zero honestly, insight in to whether that’s true or not. You ever have an off day at work? Probably; but I’d be willing to bet you don’t get paid as much true but you also don’t have to deal with 18k+ people watching you do your job. I have no doubt the Kings played with the most of amount of energy they could have given last night. Quick was awesome for the majority of two periods. And so were the Blues.
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Jeremy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
@Sam, usually one or two people have an off day, not the entire team.
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John Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@Jeremy,
Well, that just shows how tight-knit this group is! Because for all the comments to the contrary, they were trying last night, just didn’t have it…at all!!!
Bill M. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@John, An excellent point! Truly operating as a single cohesive unit. They do everything as a team, even sucking!
John Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
@Bill M,
Yep, exactly! Even suck’n we do as a team
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@Sam, I’d have to say it’s plainly obvious a team outshot 30-6 in two periods did not playing their hardest…or perhaps more correctly, they didn’t prepare, and I’d call that the same thing (or more important.)
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wavesinair Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
“You have zero, less than zero honestly, insight in to whether that’s true or not.”
The insight is from the players themselves. They admitted they didn’t show up. Read the quotes. Look at the facts.
Brown: “Tonight we just didn’t show up.”
Scuds: “We just came out flat. Right from the get-go, every single guy.”
Smyth: “There are no easy games; we can’t take any nights off.”
Murray: “There was no energy. We were totally outplayed. The tank (was) empty.”
So for Doughty to come back and say, “every night we’re out there playing our hardest,” is asinine.
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Choralone Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
@wavesinair, “The tank (was) empty” does not equal they weren’t “playing their hardest”. Same with “coiming out flat.” Some times you just don’t have it.
number 6 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
@wavesinair,
I’m loving reading these comments tonight
Tell it like it is why don’t you waves? :_)
Moondoggie Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
@wavesinair, Yep…Don’t sugar coat it Waves….Tell it like it is!! *LOL* First time I’ve chuckled since the opening faceoff last nite….
Moondoggie Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
@Sam, Uh Sam…I think you’ve had one too many hits on the Kool-Aid…..
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G$ Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
@simonsez, well said.
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Davey Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 3:21 am
@simonsez,
Im really sorry to go against the grain here and I really hope not to offend anyone. But while “lack of effort” is a trite excuse used by players, i find it just as trite as a criticism. “We didnt show up” is a vacuous comment designed to fill the void when somebody asks, “why did you lose?”. On the flip side, saying that “they took the day off” “they lacked effort” carries just as little weight. I cant think of a situation where it would be good or benificial for a player to be lazy. I would say they want to make the playoffs just as much as the fans do, if not more.
I dont believe in booing your own team, but Im not necessarily speaking against it, fans have every right to feel disappointed. But some people go so far as to say theyve been “betrayed”. I think thats a tad overboard. When we are sunk in the standings with an all star lineup, then will i start to think there is a lack of effort. Till then, I dont tihnk its right to presume players attitudes like that.
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“…because every night we’re out there playing our hardest”. If that were true nobody would have booed.
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number 6 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
@JMan,
This comment here for example, If you’ll examine it for just a moment ladies and gentlemen, this comment here could (moment out to take puff of pipe) – could be considered quite zen.
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Lets move on to booing the Ducks!!!!! It was one game…. Over it…. We still have some playoffs to play for…..
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Ryan Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
@berfore99, Excellent point! We can all just let that one go. Hopefully everyone has enough energy to focus on Anaheim tomorrow after that debacle, both the players and the fans!
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G$ Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@berfore99, Yeah! Maybe we were just warming up for the Ducks, Terry and Drew! Sheesh!
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
@berfore99,
One game yes, but so notiably bad that it will remain in the fan’s psyche for years…as well it should.
Game is over, frustrations all around vented, time to move on…
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the_guv Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
@USHA#17, We’ve been beat worse this year, and I’ve already forgotten.
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“we’re out there playing our hardest, obviously for the team but, at the same time, for them”
-Maybe most nights…..but last night you can’t fool anyone that you were playing your hardest. Thats a complete joke!
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As a young guy in the dressing room, Doughty needs to be the last one making comments about the fans. In my opinion, he’s acting his age, saying probably the wrong things. He’s a great hockey player, and in his shoes I’d be pissed off that myself and my team were boo’d off the ice. However, he needs to keep thoughts and comments like this to himself, be a professional and move on.
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John Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
@BayAreaKingsFan,
So how old does that make the booing fans?!
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goodguy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
@John, they aren’t the PROFESSIONAL ENTERTAINERS! He is…
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John Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@goodguy,
Well, I look at these guys as atheletes not entertainers & that could be why some boo & others think it’s stupid (ESPECIALLY in a 2-0 hockey game!)
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@goodguy, Professional athletes are entertainers. If they weren’t there wouldn’t be any seats, and their money wouldn’t be derived from ticket and ad sales…
goodguy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Yeah, I know… I’m the one who said they are entertainers…. Read your posts more carefully..
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 10:06 am
@goodguy, Sorry. Here’s a deal. You lay off the “instructions” to other people.
kevin Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
@John, age has nothing to do with booing
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John Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
@kevin,
Sure seems child-like to me.
goodguy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@John, The shot total and effort were being boo’d NOT the score. It could easily have been 4-0 after the 2nd period!
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John Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
@goodguy,
Yeah & we easily could have 92 points!
McSqueeze Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
@goodguy, It could have been 7-0 after the 2nd period.
BayAreaKingsFan Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
@John, I dont think booing shows signs of immaturity, but that’s just my opinion. How should they have expressed their displeasure instead? I think as a paying fan, you reserve the right to cheer when things are going well or boo when you think the team you invest so much in, is not giving a workman like effort.
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Bill M. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
@BayAreaKingsFan, “crickets…”
You can show your displeasure by not responding at all. just like I have done to your post. oh wait. crap.
kevin Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@John, plus how is booing any diffrent then what doughty is doing.
BayAreaKingsFan Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@BayAreaKingsFan, When you’re angry or unhappy, how often are you quiet about it? I’m not, in most situations I express my displeasure. Anyways, now we’re getting into expressing feelings and, as men, we’re not supposed to do that.
EmptyTank Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
@Bill M.,
“crickets…” seems to be exactly what Terry Murray did in between periods… Um, Yeah… that worked, didn’t it?
kevin Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
@John, how so?
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Corey Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@BayAreaKingsFan, …. Your comment was the most accurate i have read so far on here. I TOTALLY agree, drew doughty is a great hockey player, but he is VERY immature, why didnt they ask one of our captains?? Doughty has a lot to learn…
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wavesinair Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@BayAreaKingsFan,
Very good take. Doughty’s my favorite player on the team. I love the kid. But those comments are childish, immature and factually incorrect.
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Hey Drew… You have showed us a lack of respect by not showing up at home on a regular basis in MONTHS! You are lucky to have us! 44 years and nothing but yet we sell out the majority of the games. Some of us don’t have season tickets and can see the good AND the bad. So when we drive 70 miles round trip in traffic, pay a minimum of $30 a ticket, pay out the ass for parking food and drink and show up to see that the entertainers we came to see pull and Axle Rose… You better believe you’re going to hear it. Shut your mouth, cash your check, and be ready to show up and play hockey!
And we’ll be there to chear WHEN you do decide to do all those things…
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puck73 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
@goodguy, Concur…when the mans right he’s right.
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McSqueeze Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
@puck73, nothing more to say except that some of us drove 140 miles round trip.
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goodguy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@McSqueeze,
You got me beat I’m coming from City of Orange….
RobSD Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
@puck73,
I drive up from San Diego at least once a month.
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Shotongoal Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
@goodguy, true that!!!
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Goring 19 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
@goodguy, well said, sometimes I think these athletes who make, oh, I don’t know, more than I’ll make in a lifetime, forget how hard it is for some fans to come up with the coin for the game. Especially in these hard times.
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dd8 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
@goodguy, man that was the a-1 perfect statement, you are my hero…. sorry Drew time to grow up, learn from the experience and come back and get at it, that’s what real MEN do!
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Choralone Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
@goodguy, Yeah, that will get him to play his hardest for you….
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jason Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 3:16 am
@goodguy, i’m sure drew will get back to you on this one
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DOUGHTY: “we’re out there playing our hardest” I know what you are saying about the fans and I agree but had this statement been true against the Blues there would have been no booing heard at Staples last night!
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KingsFan Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@Brandon, BINGO! I love this whole Boo-Gate thing!!!
Most of us who have played sports can relate to the team’s experience last night. Nobody ever goes out onto the rink/field/pitch wanting to play poorly or not give 100%, and it will inevitably happen periodically. However, you have to be able to recognize why you are not playing well, and even if you’re tired, you just have to dig deep and create more energy from a pure will standpoint. That’s what championship teams are able to do. Did you notice Ryan Smith and Rob Scuderi didn’t complain about the booing? Because they’re experienced proven winners who are willing to take accountability for a poor performance. To your point, while the team went out there last night with the best of intentions, they were CLEARLY not playing their hardest, and they obviously didn’t recognize that fact in time to salvage the game. Somehow they were able to muster more energy in the 3rd period, right? Had they made the mental connection at the end of the first, it’s a whole different outcome. Great point you make. I personally wouldn’t boo, but I sure wouldn’t blame anyone else for doing so last night.
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As I have said before, we all have bad days, lets re-group and do some duck hunting tomorrow night.
People don’t forget these guys are human not robots or machines. They will have an off night once in
a while.
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lvkingaholic Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
@germankingsfan, but the whole damn team at once………. crazy man crazy………
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“We’re going to battle for them” — Doughty
Really? See that’s the problem…the fans didn’t see that as battle. Or at least as a battle with any serious effort put into it. It’s great the Kings won their last four on the road, but that booing was only a reaction to what was perceived as poor play and effort at last night’s game. And maybe the team did feel they put in serious battle last night….it wasn’t enough. And the lesson from the booing should be to focus EVEN more and play EVEN harder.
As long as the team gives the impression of putting in everything they’ve got, a loss is easier to take, even if it is still disappointing…two periods of six shots and a bunch of turnovers don’t leave that impression.
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Buster Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@Charles,
Could Waterloo be considered a battle? If so, TM pulled out Napoleon’s plans for that last one.
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Let’s hope that this is a wake up call for the boys!
I would hate to be the Ducks on Saturday night!
GO KINGS!
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tim Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
@KingsRockLA, Amen brother. I would hate to be the Ducks any night!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow, DD that wasnt the right answer. Just say “we were bad, they have a right to boo,” and let it go. I liken it to you buy expensive tickets to a Broadway play, the main star is tired/drunk/indifferent/had a fight with his/her spouse and so mails it in, flubs lines, whatever.. and after being booed the star says “I gave 50 brilliant performances in a row, it’s disrespectful to boo me for this one.”
TM was too close to the situation last night and gets it now, DD not so much.
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Steve Jensen Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@bbb7,
TM gets the save on this one. Upon further review he takes his foot out of his mouth.
DD…well kid, think before you speak is a good lesson to learn here.
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RobSD Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
@Steve Jensen,
“,probably”… still a big toe in the mouth.
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EmptyTank Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
@bbb7, I’m still not convinced that TM totally gets it. The booing fans served up to him on a silver platter the perfect motivational tool a coach could ask for. Instead he’s still saying this today: “You’re trying to find a way to start a fire there, to get a good 20 minutes of hockey, and that’s what you go into the room with.”
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Here is a thought use the booing as motivation and go out there and play hard for the people that use their hard earned money to come watch you guys play! These players have no concept of money at all and it honestly makes me sick. The average fan probably doesn’t make a ton of money a year and they spend hundreds of dollars to come watch this team play, so you know what if we want to boo you for not putting forth ANY effort whatsoever for the people that come to support you we have a right to boo you if you aren’t giving the same effort back! There are so many fans who can’t afford to come to games and still show up and make the drive when they have work the next morning too, so Doughty shut up and play instead of getting on the fans!
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Choralone Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@OCKingsFan, People are more motivated by positive reinforcement than negative reinforcement. A player whose prime motivation is to not get booed is motivated to play well enough to not get booed. A player whose prime motivation is cheers will play at a higher level because cheers result from meeting a higher standard.
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wow Doughty we all like u but u made it too easy
U dont go back to Staples where u call home and lay a dam Egg to ur fans that disrepect rigth there u want respect u got to earn it by laying a egg not helping ur case
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
@KingsFanFTW, right
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Maybe we can put this to rest now. Coach sounds like he regrets what he said, but he finally showed some emotion like what we wanted. Doughty is pissed, good. If he wasn’t then he’d be lacking competitiveness and pride.
Now let’s go win the Pacific!!
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
@Ready for the Cup in LA, hell yea lets get it and destroy all the teams in the playoff and get us a Cup this team deserves it
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@Ready for the Cup in LA, Yeah, I kinda wish Hammer hadn’t reported what Dewey had to say. I think most of us expected Murray to regret what he said, and it was fitting for him to say so…then this comment from Dewey gets heaped on the whole mess….
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Ready for the Cup in LA Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, I think it’s cool. Fans may “overract” to Dewey. I like that he’s pissed about it. It’s not golf, it’s hockey. Emotion is part of the game. At least it’s more than the usual comments after a loss.
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Well if you did your homework prior to the game then maybe we wouldnt have boo’d you… its different when the effort is there. obviously something was wrong when it seemed like 14,000 fans started booing. “because every night we’re out there playing our hardest, obviously for the team but, at the same time, for them”…….. yah you can play your hardest but if you dont take the time to research your opponent or execute the right way well you’re going to hear it from the fans.
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Enough already. I was at the game, I paid $$$ for a miserable experience, and yes, I booed because they weren’t playing well. But one bad game in the past 20+ is not going to leave me too bitter? This team needs our support, so lay off of TM and stop overanalyzing Drew’s comments already. Go Kings!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@Undercover Brother, If I wasn’t already bitter, the assertion that I was wrong to express my displeasure, or that it was “disrespectful” would make me bitter. Sometimes you can create enough ill will by a comment or two after failing to perform to reverse almost as much good will that comes from two great roadies such as those they just completed.
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I actually thought the Kings were trying hard, but not succeeding. The only player I noticed was playing soft was Doughty. He avoids taking the body now, and he looks scared in the defensive zone. Doughty needs to not be afraid to take a hit. Yeah he checks here and there, but can he take a hit and make the play?
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Brandon Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
@jonsey, Sadly I think we have Eric Cole to thank for this!
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It really hurts when you take 6 hours of time away from family, spend a hundred bucks on a ticket, drive to LA from south OC with 120 miles at $4/gallon, all to see your favorite team play, and see the showing from last night. Yes, kudos on a great 4 game road trip. Yes, kudos on a for the most part great season. Yes, BOOOOO to last night’s game.
Also – last night’s booing was probably more related to the drunk public due to st patricks more than it had to do with the game itself.
You guys get paid to play / coach your favorite game in the world. We pay to see the results. We exhibit feedback by cheering or booing. That’s the only feedback mechanism that we (fans) have.
Good luck!
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jet Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
@alex, If you could become so upset with the result that you boo, why wouild you put yourself through such a tramatic event in the first place?
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Ryan Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@jet, it’s called passion my friend… not alway a bad thing.
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EmptyTank Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
@alex, Well said Alex. A “booooo” is just another form of communication. It’s feedback.
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I hope that the people who booed last night have a bad word day and their bosses boo them today.
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Rob M. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@Rob M., hohum, that should be WORK day not WORD day.
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goodguy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
@Rob M., YES! When I do a bad job and have less than half the production I am supposed to have my boss does get on me. We pay the bills so we are the boss and that was pathetic!
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Seabass Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@Rob M., you’re having a bad word day
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McSqueeze Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
@Rob M., I have bad word days all the time. My kids call it potty mouth.
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jet Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
@Rob M., do you after doing an incredible job for 2 years and then after 5 hours on a day one of your buddies is on his way to the infirmary and your boss walks by and starts booing?
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the_guv Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
@Rob M., Seriously, people need to get over it. We will never win them all. Anyone who expects that we will, please explain what Kings team you’ve been watching for the last 40 years. They didn’t come out and lose on purpose just to piss you guys off, so don’t take it so personally. Also, that was only our 4th reg. loss in 24 games, a bit of forgiveness might be in order.
GO KINGS GO!!!
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Gee TM, now you understand hoe “frustrated” the fans were. Maybe you shouldn’t yell at the players in between periods? The fans expressed their frustration just like the express their joy. Move on kick the ‘chmucks butts tomorrow and go get that Cup.
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Anyone want to buy my Drew Doughty Road Jersey? Just kidding. I think we all said things at age 21 that we later regretted.
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Jim S. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
@NOW IMPRESSED, Yeah… I remember putting my foot in my mouth many times at that age! Nowadays, it happens less, but I also know when to say “no comment.”
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wavesinair Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
@NOW IMPRESSED,
Yep. Love the kid’s fire but he put his foot in his mouth on this one. I know he loves the Kings and all I can say is when he brings a Cup here, it will be one incredible day.
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jason Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 3:18 am
@NOW IMPRESSED, i was thinking back at the game and saw drew and martinez carry the puck a few times up for the forwards.. maybe he was playing hard but the rest of the team blew
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Man these comments are taking off like a wild fire!
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Do some of you not play sports at all? I play hockey and there can be nights when you are trying your best but no matter what nothing is clicking no matter what you do. Called it a night off or whatever you want but things like this happen and not just in hockey. It happens in football, baseball, basketball; you name it.
I have to agree with Doughty. Yeah we pay money to go see our team win, but some of you on here seem to think that to be the best team you can’t lose a game. Teams lose and win, it’s sports. Going to a game we expect our team to win, but we also have to accept that the team may lose. Last night nothing clicked. They appeared flat and not to care but do you all really think the team didn’t care? Come on people get real!
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goodguy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@Seattle757,
Yes, teams lose… And we don’t boo every loss we boo no effort.
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Jay Miller Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
@goodguy, If I was one of the players that played in that game, I would be way more frustrated with myself than any fan could comprehend, those boos are just extra motivation, it should not PISS YOU OFF, you should already be PISSED OFF… THE FANS ARE WITH YOU…Boos are energy too..
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Michael J. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
@Seattle757,
I don’t play sports anymore because I’m old (46). But I do run three times a week. I totally understand the concept of “having nothing”. Some days I will run ten miles and feel great all the way. Then there are days that I know before the 2nd mile that I have only enough to go 5.
I suspect that was the case with the Kings. Murray did cancel practice Wednesday, probably because he knew that his team was spent.
Doughty sounds pretty pissed… I expect at least a gaol and an assist from him in tomorrow’s win.
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goodguy Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@Michael J., Yeah buddy but if you were getting paid MILLIONS to run 3 times a week. I’ll bet you could do the full 10 EVERY time!
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Michael J. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
@goodguy,
Your point is well taken. Nonetheless, there are days that the energy is not there, which might be the case with the Kings last night.
Good news: A win tomorrow night makes it all better…
jason Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 3:19 am
@goodguy, yea but if you had to run with a group and they were all walking, then what
kevin Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
@Seattle757, I play hockey too I actually played at a high level and I have never had a game were my entire team had a off night. Of course teams lose. last bight was not a lost it was a beating due to none of the kings showing up. Every thing you have said to defend them reminds me of something my father told me when I was a boy and I think of it every day I own up to my actions and lack there of he told me excuses are like arm pits everyone has them and the all stink. (its not arm pits its something to due with holes)
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@Seattle757, LOLz, this was beyond a “bad night.” That should be obvious.
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EverettWAfan Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@Seattle757, Well said!!
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wavesinair Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
@Seattle757,
No one has said anything about winning and losing. It’s bizarre that people think this is the argument.
It’s about effort, plain and simple.
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EmptyTank Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
@wavesinair, You nailed it. The boos weren’t for the fact we were losing. They were for the clear lack of effort and intensity.
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EmptyTank Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
@wavesinair,
Also, us fans brought our energy and intensity last night. Staples was BUZZING from warmups, through the Anthem and the first period. The energy in the building was notable. We were all stoked to see this GREAT team that just swept 4 on the road!! And then it all crashed and burned over the first 40 minutes of the game. How could any real fan NOT be frustrated?
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mcsorleyfan Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 1:41 am
@Seattle757, yes, I have played competitive hockey and football. One season the only loss we suffered was a saturday day game that followed a friday night with me and another offensive lineman out drinking and shagging the equipment managers… Yes they were hot, but we still deserved the booing we got. Although we weren’t being payed to play at that time, we let our team mates down and everyone who showed up to watch that game. I know very well how a team can look extremely different at home vs how they look on the road, and it sucks that the home fans get the lesser of the two products. Just sayin’…
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jason Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 3:22 am
@Seattle757, when the team has such a unified night off like the kings did, it leads me to believe its something with the coaching or schedule before the game.. i thought it was impossible to see pretty much a full team suck so bad in unison
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enough with the booing blog posts. let’s just beat the ducks tomorrow and focus on staying in the playoffs… by shooting more than 3 shots a period.. haha
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wavesinair Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
@Derek,
Boooooooo!
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Derek Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
@wavesinair, lol
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forget what, coach?
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I am going to go in a different direction..I wanna take my hat off to Davis Payne, his coaching staff, and his players. The Blues had played the night before in Anaheim and were robbed of 2 points by Ray Emery who played WAAAY over his head. They could have been bummed out, tired, and just mailed it in against the Kings. Instead, Davis Payne and his staff got the players fired up, and they skated hard on every shift, and beat the Kings to loose pucks all night long. Bottom line…The Blues came in and slapped TM and his players right upside the Dome!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
@puck73,
Agreed. And it should not have happened, but it did. Now its time to kick some serious Quack. Should be a hell of a game sat.
We were at the game, didn’t boo, but were VERY disappointed at what we saw.
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Kingsfanone Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
@Kingsfanone,
Oh, and Payne & his staff & players did one hell of a job to come back after the nite before.
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jess Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
@puck73, yep and TM threw his rubber duckey into the crowd
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RoyalPain Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@puck73,
Great point. Blues played an outstanding game start to finish. They probably would have beaten the Kings even if they had played well.
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LA fans have suffered for years–I know I’m one of them–so you understand any frustration but IMO it’s counterproductive to criticize them for a bad game.
If you haven’t played competitive sports for awhile ask someone you respect who does. Even those who play their hardest always sometimes just come out dead tired and flat. The whole team was that way the other night. Scuderi mentioned it in his post-game interview: the whole team just seemed tired and flat but for Quick and then Quick started wobbling.
I also hate the fair weather fans. Yea, people are right they can be fair weather fans. If this team wins, they’ll show up and hop on that band wagon and like last night showed they’ll be the first off once things go bad.
And I’m sure there is also a bunch of long suffering fans who just said “oh no, here we go sucking again.” For those in that 2nd group, IMO you should save your boos for more appropriate moments when the team turtles, not for guys just playing bad for a game or even a stretch of games. This is a weird momentum sport. Bad periods, bad games, bad runs of games will happen, even for strong hard working teams. Non sense booing the players over that. What do you think it looks like from the players view? When they win, they hear the cheers and people begging for autographs and one mistake or bad game and many fans are booing? What would you think?
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Kris Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
@vicarious, as a player…I would probably think something like …
Wow! The fans here in LA sure are passionate about this team! I guess I am going to have to realize they are going to hold me and this team accountable for our play. They cheer us when we play well, they boo us when we miss a step. Things sure have changed now that there are expectations. I guess if I wanted things to be easy and have fans that are ignorant to our effort I should just leave the NHL.
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Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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It’s tough, because I love Drew Doughty and he is my favorite NHL’er… but he’s dead wrong here.
The shots were 30-6 after two periods playing the St. Louis Blues. You want a round of applause, Drew? This is the big leagues. You better believe the masses are going to provide you with an accurate representation of your play.
Do the Kings get booed off the ice for every home loss? Of course not. Do they get booed off the ice on St. Patrick’s Day, in front of drunken fans who came to sell out their building after watching them dominate a road trip? They sure do, and Doughty has a lot of growing up to do if he doesn’t think that as fans, we have the right to boo or cheer as we see fit.
That being said, if I had been at Staples last night I would not have booed, because I don’t personally boo my team. However, I fully support the right of anyone else to boo if they see fit. I draw the line at mock-cheering Quickie. Anyone caught doing that is broadcasting themselves to anyone nearby as being completely clueless, not to mention classless.
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@Lanny McDonald’s ‘Stache,
Doughty is lucky that he is too young to have see the days at the Forum when fans used to yell over the top of the glass at players…
Defenseman Larry Brown use to take a lot of abuse…
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BayAreaKingsFan Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
@Lanny McDonald’s ‘Stache, Well said, I completely agree.
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wavesinair Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
@Lanny McDonald’s ‘Stache,
Lock step. You nailed down the entire issue with this post. I agree with every single word you wrote and could not have said it better myself.
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One point thats big for me is, ignoring the whole booing issue, that TM doesnt seem to make adjustments. The Blues dominated in the 1st and the Kings came out in the 2nd and played THE SAME. In the 3rd- THE SAME. Many times Foxy has commented on how the opponents ‘made adjustments’ between periods and are playing much better… he doesnt ever say that about the Kings. If a team has you scouted to a ‘t’ then change something! Match lines! Get Smyth off the 2nd line if he’s not helping. Something!
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Capt Jam Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
@bbb7,
A timeout after the first two or three shifts woulda been a good start.
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
@bbb7, For a moment in the 3rd I had thought they benched Smyth in favor of…Westgarth. Then Smyth arrive late to the face off.
The Kings do adjust only last night they did not adjust to a right wing trap. It got so silly that at one point on a power play Smyth could have skated into the zone and he instead dumped it into a corner with no Kings coming.
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Sparman Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
@bbb7, Better yet, bench Smyth and/or put him on waivers. I’d rather see Richardson on the ice that Smyth. He’s been a non-factor since the start of the 10 game road stint, and now, he appears to be more of a liability than and asset.
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Drew, Drew, Drew!!
Ugh, I will just stop here so I am not completly banned from this site. Lets get’em next game guys and put this behind us.
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TM has no one to blame but himself for ignoring the psychological component of yesterday’s match-up. That game was lost before the opening face-off.
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jess Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
@Capt Jam, yep agreed and look at what the rangers are doing to the canadiens right now. Rangers were in the same position as the kings (psychological season sweep by the cans) except they grew a pair and sacked up and railed’em.
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What they fail to see is we weren’t booing the team or the individuals, we were booing the lack of effort. We are a playoff team in contention for first place in the division and their lack of effort allowed a non-playoff team to outshoot them by, what, 30-6 in two periods? And try gave up 30 shots in two periods? We have two of the best defensemen in the league, one a Norris candidate and he can’t stop the Blues? How does that show us fairing in the playoffs. They are getting paid tens of thousands of dollars to be there. I’m working tens of hours to afford to be there and I expect them to put in the effort if I’m spending my money in a recession to see hockey. There is no way the Blues should embarrass them, and us, the fans who take ridiculing for weeks over how the Blues dominated OUR team. We booed your lack of effort against a scrub team gentlemen. Watch the video. If that’s the best you can do, tank the rest of the season to get us a better pick. If the Blues dominate you like that, you stand no chance against the Sharks or Wings. Now take your money filled purses and your Kleenex and start preparing properly for the next game.
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Capt Jam Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
@Undertakr,
We were booing the complete Disconnect between the road trip and last night, Dead Man. (Sorry, had to get that reference in.)
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O shut it Drew and go eat another big mac before the game tomorrow. at least TM pretty much admitted he was wrong but Doughty isnt going to do that of course and just another reason why kings fans are starting not to like him
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Michael__DD8 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
@kasey9,
You even offended me by those remarks. For one, speak for yourself as for kings fans not liking him. 2, you said the old fat joke, meaning you dont know what your talking about… Doughty is a professional athlete.
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Ask anyone that has played for franchise north of the border or in a stronger US hockey market and they will tell you that if your team gives an uninspired effort the fans are going to let you know about it by more than just booing.
Why don’t they whine about how everyone cheered half way through the second period when we finally took a 4th shot on goal? Don’t know what it was like on TV but it was tough to sit through from the stands.
I don’t care if I get chastised for saying this but I’m putting some of the blame on the old man who came out and sang the national anthem. I’m not discounting whatever his achievements were in order to be honored as a hero during the game as he was BUT his rendition of the anthem all over the place. The tempo was inconsistent, in and out of tune and not very inspiring. THEN the Kings hit the ice and gave the same exact performance so the old man gets some of the blame. Sorry, but not really.
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Capt Jam Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@smoKING gun,
Dog pile on Carl Jund! Yes!! LOL. Man, he covered three keys with that one. No wonder Deiter decided to sit it out.
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concussionman02 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
@smoKING gun, LOL, I thought I had heard everything in sports but blaming the anthem singer for setting a bad tempo is too funny. I am going to blame the peanut guy at the baseball game for the pitching because he threw the bag high and outside.
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smoKING gun Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@concussionman02,
Sorry but you’d have no one to blame but yourself for that one. Wasting your hard eared money on a baseball game when you could just sleep at home.
no personal offense, just sarcasm in my comparisons.
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concussionman02 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@smoKING gun, None taken. Hockey is always first to me. I love baseball but I agree it can be boring. It’s just great to go out with my kid and enjoy a game together, hockey or baseball.
FW190D6 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@smoKING gun,
Carl is always a bad singer, but we don’t bag on him. His 22 year old son died of heart failure while working for the Kings, and they give a scholarship in his honor every year, and he sings. Let’s try to be a little gracious it about it, eh?
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As others have pointed out, Dewey should have gone the PC route or kept his mouth shut. People who pay up the butt for a seat in a recession are going to express their unhappiness with SIX shots in TWO PERIODS. Being pissed off about that isn’t gonna help. Who thinks he can do a lousy job without being called out for it? The fans called them out. As for disrespect, it should have occurred to Dewey that the team disrespected the fans by showing up so drastically unprepared.
I also agree with the people who thought mocking Quicker was out of line. This crossed over from “the only way I can express my displeasure is to boo” to “I’m bent and I’m going to take it out on anyone I can.” Some of those people probably beat their wife, children and/or dog when they got home, too.
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smoKING gun Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Amen, I do a lousy job at my work on ANY given day and the guy who pays my salary is going to let me know about it.
And if Quick wasn’t standing on his head the 1st 2 periods it would have been uglier earlier. On the one bad goal he gave up the puck did some crazy skip/dip on the way in and we’ve all seen that happen 100 different ways.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@smoKING gun, In all fairness, I think he’d say he could have stopped three of them, but I also think the degree of “softness” has been highly over-stated. Also, great goaltenders occasionally give up bad goals, but over the long hall, Quicker doesn’t have to apologize for his W/L record, his GAA or his SV%, and he has a history of coming back strong, so that’s what I’m LEAST worried about. Quicker’s ego is bullet-proof.
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Let’s just move on! FORGET IT! NEVER HAPPENED!!! GO KINGS GO!!! KICK SOME DUCKS’ BUTT TOMORROW!!!
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Maybe we can make the home games feel like road games. Intro for the visiting team, goal horn for visiting team, Kings can wear their road jerseys and a few boo’s here and there wont hurt either. When they win we the FANS will hear CHEER!!!! Just an idea…..
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Off topic…
I am wondering if anyone else thinks TM should switch Brown for Williams if the second line continues to play as they have the past 10 games or so?
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@Michael J.,
In my mind a lot more rests on Smyth’s shoulders then upon where Williams or Brown plays.
The second line died. Smyth pooped out dispute Penner’s arrival taking some heat off the 2nd line.
Currently anyone playing with Smyth can assume that they will never see a puck once it is sent to Smyth’s area of the ice. For this reason alone it is best to keep Williams on line 1.
Brown is not a first line winger. Clearly his production is just as consistent and he plays a much stronger overall game on the 3rd line.
Smyth is the key. The Kings were a one line team when Smyth was playing well. With Smyth fading and Penner’s arrival they remain a one line.
If Smyth can resurrect himself the Kings will have two solid lines and should really cook on offense. Put Simmonds on the 2nd line if Smyth is playing well.
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Michael J. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
@USHA#17,
I just have seen no chemistry between Stoll and Brown. For some reason I was wishfull in my thinking that Brown charging to the net might open thing up a bit for Smyth and Stoll. Smyth needs to produce as a top-six. I don’t think any kind of “demotion” is going to help the Kings. Maybe give OM another shot this year?
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Everybody settle the F down. These types of games happen to every team in every sport at least once per season and there ain’t thing one you can do. Accept it and move on.
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15,000+ fans booing you off the ice after 2 periods should have been enough to start a fire in that locker room. Doesn’t say a lot about players mental toughness if all it does is posses you off and make you play the 3rd that much worse.
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I’m from Vancouver and I was at the game. I’m on spring break so I’ll be going to four games while I’m down here among other things and have to say that was complete domination by the Blues. I was thinking that after each period I’d see something different but nothing changed. At the start of the third period the Blues were outshooting the Kings by a 5:1 ratio. The biggest cheer of the night came from the kiss cam, so as a hardcore hockey fan from north of the border I have to say that the fans had reason to boo. Also the anthem singer was so awful I cannot begin to tell you how much I agree with the post above me. He must have a big ego to perform the anthem in such a deliberate manner.
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kingswings Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
@Eric, Just FYI, last night’s anthem singer, Carl Jund is the father of Michael Jund, a former Media Relations assistant with the Kings. Michael passed away in 1998 at the age of 22, and his family, the Kings and the Kings Care Foundation have established the Michael Jund Sports Media Scholarship Award, given annually to a college student. The presentation of the award was last night, and I believe his father is asked to sing the national anthem on these nights. He is not my favorite anthem singer by any means, but I can certainly appreciate the recognition given by this gesture from the King organization. And he is far from the worst I’ve every heard. (Rich, any follow-up on THAT controversy?)
Apologies if this has already been pointed out. I didn’t read all the posts, I’m finally past the booing s**tstorm.
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Steve W Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 2:01 am
@kingswings, At least they never asked Roseanne to sing the anthem!
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Ego,ego,ego. As for Doughty, you are a great hockey player when you play to win. Don’t just mail it in. That goes for the rest of the team,too.6 shots on goal in 2 periods is not a stellar performance, especially against a team lower in points. The team did the same against the Islanders by not really playing hard. The boos were for the lack of effort and if you are too thin-skinned to “take it” you should not be in professional sports. We expect our money’s worth from young men who earn more in a year than most of the fans do in a lifetime. This reminds me of Blake posturing for another million in salary and some of you smpathizing with him…like his family was going to need food stamps with only 6 million. Tsk,tsk
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I’m actually not sure what pisses me off more as a fan. Having had to sit through the worst performance i can remember on home ice in the past 20 years, or listening to the coach and some players complaining about being called out for phoning it in.
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Worst thing about last night is injury to cliffy
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Capt Jam Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
@Kings x,
Agreed.
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Michael J. Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
@Kings x,
Yes, that has me the most concerned. I’m already thinking of what do they do if he is out for a while.
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Cup4LA64 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
@Kings x, Ugh…. thanks for the reminder…. Get well soon Cliffy!
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Forget what? Already forgotten. Let’s all just get over it. Whatever “it” is.
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@DoomViking, I’m betting a shattered facial bone.
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The crowd wasn’t booing. they were saying “Dreeeeeeeeeeeeewwwww”
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Cup4LA64 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
@Howe 9, hahaha nice
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What would Doughty do if he played for the Rangers? I am pretty sure kings fans are not the first people to boo a team. If you know the history of the kings, I would say the fact they have any fans is a shock. 3 playoff appearances in this millennium doesn’t cut you a lot of slack. People say it is too easy to play in LA due to a lack of media pressure and accountability and then the one time fans make a gesture for said accountability there is an outrage. I don’t understand.
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Maybe now he won’t want to sign that contract with us.
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Everyone assumes they ‘mailed it in.’ Couldn’t they also have been flat and exhausted (like Scuderi said)? People are believing what they want to believe, but I’m going to go with Scuderi on this.
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
@DLB
I would not argue with Scuderi. That road trip had to be mentally exhausting. Every night, win or die.
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man i have this felling that the ducks are our rebound victims. The hits that are coming there way !!! this could turn into a positive.The ducks have to know its coming . Simmions has to go “clifford” on them:.
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I don’t see Drew’s comments as being objectionable at all. He’s just giving his view but doesn’t seem to be criticizing, in fact he acknowledges that all teams get boo’d.
I just hope that we’re as loud in our cheering tomorrow night, because the crowd has been pretty quiet far too often this season.
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Man you guys are brutal. As a fan myself, and a player, it happens. Its so easy to sit in those stands, eat your popcorn, and critique EVERY move these players make. The last time i checked, the St Louis Blues was a professional hockey team as well. If you have ever played a hockey game at a decent level( not your local roller rink ) , you would learn that there games, as a team, where NOTHING..nothing goes your way. You skate, you don’t move. You stick handle, you don’t handle. You fall and fall again. Its a letdown, but who was to say they werent trying? They didnt go out there laughing and thinking they weren’t going to win. It was probably the same as every game, the same rituals. Just once you step on the ice, nothing translates. Someone had to win that game last night, and wether it was by 1 goal or 4, it hurts to be booed of the ice, cause fact of the matter was, they are more pissed off then you are. I willl GUARANTEE that. They hate losing more then us fans do. They wouldn’t be in the show if they werent passionate. Its a hard game to make it. They went out there last night trying, but it wasn’t the game for the LA kings. As a fan, i have a bad day every now and then, but i would hope to get support. You can let out a our frustration, but BOOing , YOUR TEAM , off the ice, that’s just not what you do. Those are my boys, i boo the opponent off the ice..
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Choralone Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
@Michael_DD8, Good post. They played a cruddy game for sure, but are assuming a lot when they assume there was no effort.
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If you boo don’t be pissed when the players you booed are unwilling to sign autographs. Yes they played poorly. The same people who booed would also be pissed if they were a player and got booed. If Doughty didn’t take it personally it would bother me a hell of a lot more. Players think of themselves as players. They don’t think of themselves as fans. Fans better show up and cheer come Saturday. No more of this being on the team.
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Simmonds sorry
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Also, the kings are in 5th place, it is not like they clinched the president’s trophy and had an off night. Doughty kinda sounds like we owe him something. Win a cup, a playoff series, or even a division title, and then we can talk.
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Cheering or booing is just an expression of our passion as fans and observers. But our beloved athletes are also very human. We all have good and bad days at work. Some days we are very productive, close big deals and sometimes we phone it in. Some days we have lots of energy, others we barely get out of bed. Our heros are not superhuman and sometimes we as fans have unrealistic expectations. I hope we see the big picture here. Yes, they get paid millions to be watched by thousands. Yes, we pay good money to watch and express our passion. But at the end of the day we are watching a game played by gifted men who we choose to support. I wouldn’t want 18k people booing me at my job either even if I wasn’t having a productive day. If we’re real fans, we take the good with the bad. If we win, we cheer, if we don’t we encourage to try harder next time. That’s what understanding the game means to me as a fan.
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Ready for the Cup in LA Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
@bitter, Picture the Seinfeld episode where he heckles his heckler at work… If the Kings show up to my work to boo me, I wonder if they would still be willing to sign the memorabilia on my walls…
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Hey guys relax. its just one game in which everyone was “off”. Doughty was just giving his opinion and thats it. Blowing things out of proportion isn’t going to help. Lets just give the guys support and hope that Clifford is back on the ice as soon as possible. GET WELL KYLE
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OK, we’ll disagree on the appropriateness of booing. Let’s just agree to disagree.
But what about farting at games? Yea or nay?
JK, just trying to lighten up after the impressive amount of emotion from everyone last night. Saturday will be redmption time, for the team and fans. Let’s be extra noisy! The Ducks aren’t used to playing in front of a crowd.
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Ready for the Cup in LA Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
@Ready for the Cup in LA, I meant “Redemption” Darn new keyboard!!!
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I will start by saying I was watching the game from home. In hindsight, yes, the booing was wrong, along with the “gratuitous cheer” for the save Quick made. Although, just as the Kings had an “off night”, we, the true fans, are absolutely entitled to show our frustration once in a while. Just as any hockey player breaks their stick over the crossbar in frustration, we too, can get frustrated. Especially, when some of us have supported this team for more than 30 years.
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@Hammer:
This would be a great time for a new blog post–anything–to lighten the mood. I think we all would like something FUN to comment on, to help us put the fiasco behind us. I know in my own case, I am far more anxious than usual for the puck to drop tomorrow night. Unlike the team, I don’t get to respond therapeutically, by getting on the ice in practice and working on the problems. I’m pretty sure it’s true for fans in general.
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We boo because we love…
Go out and flatten some Ducks on Saturday and all will be forgiven and forgotten!
GO KINGS!!!
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…because every night we’re out there playing our hardest” … “and for them to boo us shows a lack of respect from them”.. Was DD even there last night? No one played hard last night! And he should be frastrated on himself and his teammates, not to fans. Respect?! You are the one who did not respect us, fans!!! We are the one’s who buying tickets, merchandise and so on. And that’s part of your paycheck, DD. Unbelievable! ..Instead, you shoud’ve say:” Sorry, dear fans, we did not showed up yesterday”. But he can not take responsibility, he is just a child. I don’t like that guy anymore..
On the other hand, I like what TM said. At least he realized that we (fans) not the reason why Kings sucked last night and had a right to be upset.
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KMcC Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
@Mike V.,
Agree with you 1000%
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Okay Kings fans, let’s put this awful loss behind us and get behind our team as we drive to the playoffs, and a whoopin on the Ducks tomorrow night.
Go Kings Go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The game … I would of forgot, no problem.
The booing … I would of forgot no problem.
Trashing my fellow fans in the press.
I’ll never forget that. That wasn’t an appology, it was an explaintion. Not good enough.
As a life long LA fan I’ve had to take crap from other fans and press around the country about how we don’t care and have no passion blah, blah, blah. I was there when our fans gave a 10 minute standing O before game 6 against Boston’s Bobby Orr, Espo and we willed that team to victory. Gretzy’s first year victory over Edmonton in 7 games. Was there for that 7th game.
I can take hearing that crap from out of towners, but our own coach?
Frankly, I’m looking forward to a new coach that will embrace the fans not use them as an excuse.
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I’ve been as critical as Murray’s comments as anybody, so i’m glad to hear that he has calmed down and realized how important it is to us that we see 100 percent…
doughty can be as mad as he wants about it, as a player nobody likes to be booed. I know i can’t stand it when my team has a bad game and i hear about it from my friends after. It just ads insult to injury and it hurts… but you can’t hold it against the fan’s for booing, they are there to watch their team win, or at least put up a good fight… the problem last night was that we didn’t see that and its very frustrating to see a really good team play really bad.
i’m over it, unless the next game is worse.
mike morbid.
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frazier king Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
@mike morbid, The ducks will fill just how pissed off we our over this .just don’t take bad penalties and 1st. in the”smithe” next.
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The thing that will make us all forget is if they come out and play a great game against Anaheim and get the 2 points. The thing I am worried about is for some reason this team just lacks the same intensity at home as they do on the road. Me personally, I would not be pissed that the team was giving the fans something to boo, but it would make me want to play harder to not give the fans a reason to boo. I feel like I was more angry diving home last night then some of the players on the team. This is not the first time they have played bad against an inferior opponent at home. All will be forgotten if they can win at least 3 of their next 4 on this home stand….I am just afraid that it is not going to happen.
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Tix to the game: $150
Parking: $15
2 hot dogs and 2 beers: $30
Watching your team play the worst game ever played on home ice and then having the balls to criticize the fans for booing: Priceless.
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We have passion….we want this team to succeed and put LA back on the map in the NHL…We don’t want to be almost there…we want to be there. After the excellent 4-0 trip the fans wanted to experience that same excellent play in person. Instead the team comes out and lays an egg. End of story..
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‘Every night we go out and play our hardest’! Jog on DD!
It’s a lack of respect to play like that for the people that fund your wage mate! Brat
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Doughty. You are really getting on my last nerve this season. Shut up and play.
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the_guv Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
@PJ, Yeah, we’d be much better off without him…get real bro.
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Screw you Drew!! its my money that pays to see you on the ice, you collect a paycheck from my money!
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locdog1 Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 11:17 am
@Mike T, wow
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TM, you are still the man. You reacted to it like we all would if we were in your shoes, emotionally. You took some time, did some self reflecting, and came back with a man’s apology/statement.
Doughty,
Give me a friggin break. You have done nothing for the past I don’t know, 25 games. So you had a great season last year. Guess what, you’re only as good as your last game. And your last game was garbage. I’m sorry, but you are only getting a paycheck because the FANS were in THOSE SEATS BOOING YOU! …….man up, thicken that skin a little bit, and PLEASE PLAY BETTER HOCKEY.
Sincerely,
Weis-Guy
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Its official we now expect to win and we are at a new level you can just fill it.We will make the playoffs and advance now “we expect it” ,this is were we have to be to move to the top,”we expect” from this new level not to have this type of game.The kings are new to this but its here.”We expect”to win the cup, just my thoughts on louder boos,”we expect” to take it out on the ducks ,god i love the kings.
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Hey Terry, Forgetta bout it.
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Let me first start off by saying that if THAT is the Kings playing their hardest, then we are in ENORMOUS trouble heading into the playoffs. If Drew Doughty actually believes that he and the Kings are playing for us, well Drew, thanks for the six shots through two periods of hockey. I understand that every team has multiple bad games every season, but how can you not expect to get booed after that performance? I personally don’t boo, only for the fact that I boo the Ducks and players like Ilya Kovalchuk, therefore, I would never throw the Kings into that category. All that I do when the Kings are playing piss poor, is turn to whoever I’m with and we express our anger with the squad with each other. However, I don’t blame the fans that did boo our team.
Drew Doughty needs to know that it’s nothing personal. I, and others have been die-hard fans of this team since the day we were born. Just because you get booed does not mean that we don’t love this team with everything we own. What’s the difference between getting chewed out in the locker room by your coach after a horrible period? Since we cannot do that, what else can we do besides boo a horrid showing? We’ll all be back this Saturday night, CHEERING our beloved Kings against that other team in SoCal, however, if you play like dog-crap then you’re going to get booed again, Doughty.
Now let me get a few things off of my chest. Question: Why is it Drew Doughty speaking out against the fans? What has he done that he thinks he has the right to come out and disrespect the people who pay hard-earned money to watch HIM and this team play? You have veteran players in that locker room that have been around the block like Ryan Smyth, Jarrett Stoll, Justin Williams, Matt Greene, Rob Scuderi, Willie Mitchell, and Michal Handzus who have accomplished more than he has in this league, but you don’t see them shooting their mouth off. I respect the fact that you have won a Gold Medal and that you were nominated for a Norris, but news flash Drew, in THIS league you have not won anything yet. Lastly, you have bigger and better things to be “pissed off” about, such as oh I don’t know, Jack Johnson obviously out-playing you this year, and the fact that you came into training camp overweight and out of shape. Somebody needs to put this kid in his place.
Go Kings Go!
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New buzz words on hockey central and nhl on the fly: “blue collar hockey” and “rope a dope” –just shut yer cake holez already.
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Rich should do a new poll. If Kings lose to the Dux on Saturday, will we boo again?
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frazier king Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
@PakiFan, you no they will but its not going to happen because of the last game, we will take it out on them ,simmonds fills in for clifford you will see. I wonder what duck get it.
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bOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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The tank gets a lot emptier when you lose Clifford and have Westgarth in uni.
Doubling players onto the 4th line took it’s toll.
Westgarth just shouldn’t be playing, that’s on TM.
I don’t like booing the team but it’s somewhat understandable given the performance, which was horrorshow.
I’m worried that we have a hard time dealing with adversity. One player goes down and things were unbalanced quickly.
Plus, the tank cannot be empty at this point. The playoffs are 3 weeks off and THEN it gets demanding.
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Someone’s got some growing up to do – both on the ice and off the ice.
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I haven’t read all the comments so if this has been mentioned I apologize. What no one from the team has mentioned, as far as I know, is that while the team was booed after the second period, they were loudly cheered when skating on the ice before the third period. So it should be obvious that the fans were disappointed in the effort but shortly thereafter demonstrated their support.
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jckings Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
@JackKent Cooke, I thought the samething… after both breaks the team was cheered… and there weren’t any boos at the end… So I am thinking they are deflecting the performance.. and let us not forget they have not beaten St Louis this year.
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Why don’t you tell them that the booing is the fans way of saying you better not play like this the rest of the season..Kings fans have seen the collapse too many times..
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On the other hand, during the first intermission, Bailey was blocking pucks in the net from 4-year olds when he was presumably supposed to be letting the toddlers score so they could feel better about themselves.
NOT nice, Bailey…. (Boo…)
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Bailey Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
@Godvomit, First of all…… #tigerblood. Someone has to dominate in a Kings jersey last night.
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TM and Drew need to shut their pie holes and worry about the embarassment that THEY WERE on the ice. 6 shots through two periods? Seriously? The 6 year olds who play between periods do better than that. The only thing that pissed me off more than the Kings completely mailing it in, was the fact that they had the balls to try to turn it around and point the finger at us for not loving their crap performance. Sorry guys, but if it looks like shyte, and smells like shyte, and you want to charge me $11 for a cup of it, guess what? I’m gonna call it shyte. Yes, you have played hard this year, but don’t think for a second that if you play like a pee wee league out there that we’re not going to call you on it. So shut it and play hard and you won’t have to worry about boos.
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No need for TM to react like he did, but he is frusterated too. I see how he feels. Ask Edmonton what loosing is like, they would probabily tell you it sucks. You thought you were gonna get two pts last night and it didnt happen. You can never go back to that game. Imagine it never happened and go out there tomorrow night and give 100% effort in the Anaheim game.
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Drew-
I wish I could get paid like you do to play like you did last night and get booed than to be the guy spending the money to watch that ‘effort’ and boo because of what I had to watch.
I can appreciate your honesty and I love that about you, but what I want to hear from you (and should hear from you) is that the booing pissed you off because you didn’t play well, you did not earn your paycheck, and wanted to do better for the fans. The only disrespect shown last night was the disrespect you showed YOURSELVES by not being prepared and playing to the level that ALL THE FANS KNOW you can play to. That is the most shameful part of last night. The boos should have made you wake up to that reality and change something last night.
One correction as well Drew. Last night, you were NOT playing your hardest. Most of the team has already admitted that. That 5 on 1 was RIDICULOUS! I still can’t believe Quicker saved your bacon on that one. Just back away from the defensiveness, go back to just defense and for theloveof Pete, just HIPCHECK THE ____ OUT OF SOMEBODY on the Ducks roster tomorrow night!
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jess Reply:
March 18th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
@Cynic, Thank You. –Hope that one is to TM as well by the way
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Its one thing if the other team can do no wrong….but its another to make it so a team can do what they did last night. The Kings sucked last night and it was embarrassing to watch….I;m sorry but I expect more from them and they deserved to get booed at when they play like that….for cryin out loud….everyone knows that if you ;need a lil momentum, then you hit someone…even if it means taking a penalty or two. All they did was watch the Blues skate by and say OLE….
To play like that in the middle of a playoff hunt doesn’t bode well. Suck it up and give effort every night…..its what yer payed for……..by the way ….GO KINGS
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Emotions run high when you’re ticked off. I woulda liked to have said some things to you Murray but I know that Rich wouldn’t let me post that kind of language here. I agree it’s over and one with let’s move on and stop beating a dead horse.
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Doughty’s statement “Booing us kind of pisses me off as a player, because every night we’re out there playing our hardest, obviously for the team but, at the same time, for them”
Really EVERY night… let’s cut the crap Doughty you know you didn’t play your hardest last night and several other nights this season too many to count. That ole “Playing a 60 minutes line” was getting staler than a 6 month old keg of Bud.
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“we’re playing for them”
No, DD, you’re playing BECAUSE OF them. You’re not giving away your gift of hockey to the fans. You are selling it. We are paying you for it. You know, with that multi-million dollar contract you’re about to get. Like it or not, you have no hockey job without the fans. They aren’t just lucky to have you. You are lucky to have them. It’s disrespectful not to show up and honor their monetary commitment. With payment in a transaction comes expectations. Get used to it.
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Forum Gold Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 10:10 am
@Naturallawyer, 21 SELLOUTS in this economy? You nailed it. With the history of this franchise they are so fortunate to have their loyal fans. GO KINGS GO!!
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DOUGHTY: “Booing us kind of pisses me off as a player,…but it’s a part of the game. Fans boo their teams all the time, so it’s nothing we can be really upset at.”
So you’re pissed off but not really upset?
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You have to see both sides of the story… if Drew is playing his heart out and likes pleasing the fans it sucks when he gets booed because of lets say other players not giving their effort..
I think the kings players and staff who care about the fans and the game of hockey the most will be the most hurt by the booing… Its the kings players that arent effected by the fans booing that worry me.. the ones who have no drive or fire in the tank are the ones who will lose games for us… I’m glad murray and doughty are mad because it shows they care about the fans and their performance… I’m glad they are mad because i know the next games they play they will not want to get booed
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Detroit was booed off the ice in a home game this season and they are the #1 team in hockey over the last 30 years. I was there and I booed the effort. It’s all about expectations…I expected a better effort. The talent on the team and way the team is playing is what has raised the expectations. Frankly I bet Terry Murry booed when he watched the tape. By the way Terry…we wern’t only booing the players. Let’s move on…we will all be there cheering Sat. Please make sure we have somthing to cheer about. GO KINGS
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Coach Murray: I hope you read this. You are looking at it all wrong. You just came home from a 4-0-0 rad trip. We were pumped to yell and scream on your behalf and watch our team trounce the blues. Our team stunk it up and we know that’s not who we are. We were booing becuase we wanted to cheer our team all night and never could.
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Our team sounds like a bunch of whiny babies. Now they’re defending mediocrity? That leaves a whole new type of bad taste in my mouth.
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