Jonathan Bernier will start in goal tomorrow against Columbus, Terry Murray said after practice today. Murray said it was part of his plan for the road trip from the start. Murray also said that he would consider putting Kevin Westgarth in the lineup, but hadn’t decided for certain yet. For those who didn’t see it in the notes, last night’s second-period power-play goal is now credited to Alexei Ponikarovsky, not Dustin Brown. More notes and quotes to come…
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who is Kevin Eastgarth? his evil twin from the parallel universe?
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Stuart Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
@tornado12, It’s our bizarro enforcer who actually enforces…
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puddle Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
@tornado12, Damn, Rich fixed it! The jokes on here would have been non-stop with that one…
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
@puddle,
Here’s one…
–Clint Westwood?
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Stuart Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
@puddle, or that stupid Eastwood insurance jungle which is now embedded in my dome…
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Stuart Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
@Stuart, oops, *jingle*
Bill M. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
@Stuart, hahahah “insurance jungle” – insurance does sometimes feel like being lost in a jungle, doesn’t it?
“Eastgarth” ay? lol but isn’t Columbus still a west conf. team haha
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jmsalsa Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
@moose,
kevin eastgarth is the enforcer of karma. =)
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Uh oh, this should start a Insider ruckus!!! LOL
I hope everyone thinks logical about this, its a long trip and there are still plenty of games left…Bernier will be solid against CLB.
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So i think TM learned his lesson from last year and play quick and bernier every other game..i like that cuz quick wont be worn out in playoffs!
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c-nut Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
@Matthew Motush, totally agree on this, especially since we’re playing 10 games in 20 days. Literally every other day. Gives both our tenders the ability to stay hot without getting burned out.
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Stuart Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
@c-nut, Is that as in King Cnut of England c.11th cen. or pronounced /see/-nut? just curious
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Bill M. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
@Matthew Motush, Yeah. I like this. Both have now come on strong with the exception of occasional hiccups. alternate them for the last 15, we go into the playoffs witt two great goalies, both seeing just enough action to have a rhythm but not enough to overwork them. If it works out well, this potentially takes us into the playoffs with TWO hot goalies.
The first couple PPs looked a bit disjointed yesterday, like they hadn’t fully adjusted to TM’s changes. The third one looked better, and of course, they scored. I hope TM’s changes actually continue to produce, because with our strength in other areas, NOBODY wants to see us in the playoffs with a clicking power play. Funny, but the current standings would have us in the first round at Detroit. Given how we have done the last two years against them, I think I actually prefer that matchup. Certainly it’s preferable to VAN.
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Stuart Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
@Bill M., I thought the second unit was staying the same, TM was just changing the 1st PP?
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Bill M. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@Stuart, You might be right about that. Still, I thought that both PP lines started looking more confident towards the end.
DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@Matthew Motush,
Normally I would agree with you, but right now we need every stinking point we can get and JQ in golas is almost 90% lock to get a win while JB in goals is more around 75% lock to get the win. I would feel more comfortable doing that if we had some cushion inthe standings, but that isn’t there right now.
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Jeff Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
@DesertKing, I agree, we aren’t in the playoffs yet, you should always go with whats working, whats the saying, if it isn’t broke don’t fix it, and that goes with Quick. Keep the momentum going. There was another Murray not too long ago that changed things every other night and look where he is now.
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Isn’t Eastgarth south of Rohan?
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I would rather start Quick… KW not needed!!!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Richardson’s playing well, has high energy.
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tantrum4 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@King John,
Ya well, what’s he going to do when Boll & Dorsett start taking liberties because there is no one sitting on the bench waiting for them if they do? Hockey isn’t just about goals, trust me.
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Dominick Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
@tantrum4, Question is What will Westgarth do? If he actually creates some havoc then I’m fine with that. If he spends 5:33 out on the ice trying to make plays, it defeats the purpose of the whole deterent thing.
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luc20rules Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
@tantrum4, I don’t think either would be eager to face the wrath of Clifford even if he is a middle weight.
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I think Rich is reiterating the scoring change so we can see that TM is indeed a hockey genius… by putting AP on the PP which resulted in a PP goal! Thank you TM!
Unfortunately I didn’t get to see the first two periods, but did the PP look/play markedly different?
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tornado12 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
@Stuart, i thought the one they had in the 3rd (when stuart closed his hand on the puck), I think it was, was vastly improved. They were moving around and changing positions. It LOOKED much better- IMO
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Bill M. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
@tornado12, The first couple just looked out of sync – like they were still getting comfortable with the changes. the third PP (where they scored) did look different and was MUCH better. Movement, sustained pressure, pucks on net.
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fsd1 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
@tornado12, I agree!
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SB Larry Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
@Stuart, It didn’t look that different. There is still too much standing around. No seem passes. Too many blocked shots
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nykingfan Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
@Stuart,
Until the last PP, they couldn’t get control of the puck in Detroit’s zone. It was impossible to tell the difference because of that.
The PP goal was because of the outstanding work of Martinez. He took over that PP and made all of the smart reads and got his shot thru.
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Leave Westgarth in a suit.
I understand playing Bernier but would rather have Quick in there. Although it doesn’t scare me to put our backup in this year. Oh how far the Kings goaltending has come.
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UGH. Westy in probably? Useless.
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I wonder what goes through Westgarth’s head when he’s on the bench watching Clifford fight.
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Newf Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
@schlocktober, “I wish i could do that”
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jmsalsa Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@Newf,
literal LOL =) nice one.
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Token Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
@schlocktober, Memories of John Scott’s knuckles.
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SB Larry Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
@schlocktober, NIce!
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jayhay Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@schlocktober, “he better not do my hand-clap celebration going to the box. That’s mine, damn it!! It will always be mine, AAAHAHAhahahahahahahahaha”
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tantrum4 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
@schlocktober,
You guys are ridic. Westgarth would put Clifford in a coma.
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Bernier….good, Westgarth….bad
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What is it with Murray and playing goons? Westy is ABSOLUTLY useless! Which makes him Ivanans part Deux. As for the goaltending, I thought Murray would play Quick the first three games and Bernier against Nashville because of his success against the preds. Especially after last nights game by quick. Bernier been playing well. Guess thats why they pay TM the big bucks. But Westy, come on.
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jayhay Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
@SB Larry, Quick needs to play against the Preds to get some work against them, in case they meet in the playoffs. To have the #2 guy go against a conference opponent is not setting yourself up for success in the playoffs.
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jayhay Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
@jayhay, excuse me, to have the #2 guy go against a conference opponent *all 4 meetings* is not setting yourself up for success in the playoffs.
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@Stuart, It didn’t look that different. There is still too much standing around. No seem passes. Too many blocked shots. TM just re-arranged the deck chairs
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fsd1 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
@SB Larry, 100% disagree with you sir, there was nothing but movement.
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come on TM! havnt you realized yet that we dont need KW? Obviously not. ohhh well, guess its just sometrhing Im gonna have to learn to live with unfortunatly.
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Dan H. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@BrokeKingsFan,
I’m sure he’s prepping for playoffs when we know he’ll be in every game because of the physical nature of play he brings to the table and quick forecheck.
just kidding.
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Bernier will put to rest any inkling of a gaolie controversy.
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Bill M. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@Munchrat, are you saying that he can put down a goalie controversy by playing well? I think that a strong performance would make the controversy stronger. Surely you are not predicting a poor performance for Bernier (and thus the team) tomorrow?
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Stuart Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
@Munchrat, by stinking it up? I don’t get what you mean.
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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@Munchrat, There is no goalie controversy Quick is #1,Bernie is #2 if you don’t believe me ask T.M. or D.L.People on here just like to argue and complain you know who you are.Example after a win light traffic after a loss hundreds of posts and comments.
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Munchrat Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
@Munchrat, I was being facetious, to be sure. I expect another excellent outing from Bernier. There is nothing I woould like better htan to see both netminders put up sickly good numbers for the remainder of the regular season. All I really want to say is that a goalie controversy is not a bad thing at all.
GKG, baby!
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Come on guys…you all know the drill by now! Columbus has Bol so TM will counter with Westy. The last time TM did this BOL ran over our captain then got into a stick fight with Kopi who was coming to the aid of brownie. WESTY sat on the bench and watched. Matter of fact he never got another shift the rest of the night?????????????
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Token Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
@illegalstick33, Boll ain’t a heavy. Cliffy can handle him just fine.
Plus, Westgarth can’t catch anyone Let alone fight them. He’s a face-off fighter, Cliffy is the enforcer.
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tantrum4 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
@Token,
ha ha! Are you for real? Boll most certanly IS a heavy. He would put Clifford in a body bag.
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Stuart Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
@illegalstick33, ahhh yes, AK vs Bol, I remember it well…
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
@illegalstick33, Not that I want Westgarth playing, but is he supposed to leave the bench to go and challenge Boll?
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Scot Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
@mrbrett7,
That would be great! Automatic 10-game suspension for Westgarth, doesn’t get much better than that, right?
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 11th, 2011 at 6:55 am
@Scot, Good point!
illegalstick33 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@mrbrett7, No…. leaving the bench at that moment would be stupid but if Westy was in the lineup to protect “star players” then it doesn’t get more “star” then your Captain and your number one center. So instead of jumping off the bench during the scrum he should have come over the boards on the next opportunity and asked boll to join him on the ice. I can’t remeber if Westy was in the lineup the night the Flyers were giving JB a hard time and Carter was talkin all kinds of trash. JB got rattled and he did everything he could not to wack someone with his stick. Carter never even got challenged by anyone. The point is TM says that Westy is in for a reason (Heavy, Enforcer, Protection) and he never seems to get used for that reason. Thats why I think people are frustrated.
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 11th, 2011 at 6:56 am
@illegalstick33, So, you know for a fact that he had that next opportunity? Coaches decide who goes on the ice, not the players.
ringo Reply:
March 11th, 2011 at 4:05 am
@mrbrett7, how about next shift…
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mrbrett7 Reply:
March 11th, 2011 at 6:56 am
@ringo, As I just said above…did he get another shift? I don’t believe he did.
Can anyone confirm the TV time for FSW for tomorrow’s game? The local paper had both the King’s game and the Clippers game on at the same time.
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Capt Jam Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@DesertKing,
FSW will show the game at 7:30 PST. That’s right, a gold ol’ fashion tape delay broadcast. I’ll be watchin off my laptop at 4:30.
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Dan H. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
@Capt Jam,
Is there a womens badmitton game keeping it from airing live tomorrow?
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Bill M. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
@Dan H., Clippers game, which is only slightly more significant than womens badmitton…
kris Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@DesertKing, Kings on tape delay at 7:30
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Kings Fan Vancouver, WA Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@DesertKing, I found it on Center Ice @ 4:30 probably the Blue Jackets feed.
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DesertKing Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@DesertKing,
Thanks everyone. I am going to try and avoid the game until 7:30 and GKG!
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mrhapa Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@DesertKing, They are also showing Women’s Pac 10 BB Tournament… nice to get bumped by them and the Clippers.
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I have no idea why TM would dress Westy when the CBJ do not have a heavyweight goon.
Cliffy can handle Boll, and Dorsette is a joke, Smyth could handle him.
We are a large tough team now. No need for the Princeton Beef.
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ringo Reply:
March 11th, 2011 at 4:12 am
@Token, i think it was mentioned here before but, westy is a show fighter, an expected fighter, a face off fighter who the hell cares about that. the big red dog is a spur of the moment fighter a reaction fighter a true enforcer. word is out on cliffy he is a real good fighter and other teams know it. which is why when cliffy is in we dont get pushed around too much. and if we do cliffy is in your face. simmer is also that type of fighter but more of a light middle weight. if westy would act more like a true enforcer rather then a face off fighter he would be fine. marty was a true enforcer as was lappy.
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i don’t see why TM would play Westgarth? Richie looked good, the fourth line played pretty well and Clifford is more than able and willing to take on anyone who may take a run at anyone. i’m guessing the only reason to play Westgarth is Boll but at least Boll can move the puck. he actually made a nice play last night that led to a goal. can’t say that about Westgarth.
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Whoever starts this game, I hope Bernier gets the start at Nashville (next games are tomorrow at Columbus, Sunday at Dallas and Tuesday at Nashville). Bernier owns the Preds. It makes sense to start Bernier against Columbus and then again against Nashville. If Quick plays well in Dallas, you start giving him more starts again in the next home stand when the travel won’t wear on him as much.
With goaltending, it’s largely a mental struggle; focus is the most important thing. Road trips have to be harder on them, especially this time of year, with not sleeping in your own bed, getting into town very late at night, etc. That isn’t an issue in the playoffs when you have a little more time to rest.
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Well, Richie should be ready to fly on Sunday in DAL. He usually responds to being scratched with an off the chart effort.
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Not Westgarth, PLEASE!!!!!
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Tape delay tomorrow. I hope Center Ice doesn’t black the live one out. If so, I plan on avoiding the internet till after the game. Don’t want spoilers.
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Kings Fan Vancouver, WA Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@kris, Its the Blue Jackets feed. Shouldn’t be blacked out
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MK Ultra Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@kris, That’s how I roll. I can rarely watch games live because of my work schedule.
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Does anybody know the W/L splits on games w/ Westy & games w/o?…saw it a coulpe months back & there was a pretty big discrepancy
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
@dug, you dont want to know, its not pretty!
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nykingfan Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
@dug,
I saw the stat a while ago, but it’s as meaningless as my opinions
How is it possible that a guy who plays 3 minutes a night can have an effect on the outcome?
When he’s a scratch, has Ritchie lit up the lamp or set up goals that were directly related to the outcome? He’s a nice complimentary player and nothing more.
I saw the same type stat about Peter Harrold. that’s another guy I like, but his rpesence has no bearing on the outcome of games…Besides, the last game he played we lost..thos who brought up the stats about our record with him in there, didn’t bother mentioning that after we lost.
Harrold did nothing wrong and certainly wasn’t the reason we lost, but he’s also not the reason we win.
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Dan H. Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@nykingfan,
Well it’s more that the line gets more time so the other lines are more well rested coming down the stretch.
With Westgarth in, someone has to double shift or they just don’t run that line.
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tantrum4 Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
@nykingfan,
FINALLY!!!! Someone gets it!!!!!
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dug Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
@nykingfan,
I agree in that Westy doesn’t have a huge impact on the bottom line. My only concern would be that when he’s in, it seems like TM is wasting a roster spot…because he only plays 3 minutes. In my opinion, a guy like Richardson just brings a little more value in the sense that he can be trusted with more minutes.
I’m all for an enforcer, under the circumstances that there is nobody else on the roster who can protect Kopi & the rest…but after watching Clifford step in to defend Greene & draw the spearing from Ott (& later go on to add a highlight reel hit & a pretty goal), all while Westy skated around the outside of the scrum, I don’t see the sense in devoting a roster spot to it. I am definitely not saying Westy can’t fill that role, because I believe he can…just saying that I believe the cumulative toughness of the rest of the roster already has it covered.
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TM is just sticking by the plan he made previously. Bernier has been playing well, so there really is no reason to change that idea. Hopefully the rest is helpful to Quick for the stretch drive.
We’re still crying over a 4th line player getting 3 min a night?
I like Ritchie a lot. The problem is, he is Trevor Lewis with a different number. Both are energy players, but neither one can score. they’re both excellent PK guys, but so are several others on this team, so there really isn’t a need for both every night. I think Lewis’ upside is a lot better than Richardson’s, so I would continue to use Lewis.
We have enough YOUNG players, that double shifting shouldn’t be an issue if TM decides to go that way (this is not a back to back situation)..besides, who would you rather see on the ice Simmonds, Brown, or another forward double shifting, or Richardson?
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kevin Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
@nykingfan, So what is it that westy brings at least Richardson brings something to the game and to answer your question richardson over every one except maybe kopi and williams.
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nykingfan Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
@kevin,
again, I like Richardson, but the point totals just don’t make sense.
Borwn has how many goals/assists as compared to Ritchie?
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
@nykingfan, the fact that he only gets 3 min a night is part of the problem. your right in saying that we are young enough and can handle the double shifting but it still does take some wind out of everyone’s sails come the latter part of 3rd periods. Your comparison of Lewis and B-rad is exceptable and i would rather have two guys who are mirror images of each other playing anywhere from 10-20min a night that bring speed, hustle, tenacity, effort and an possibility of putting points on the score sheet any day of the week over a guy who plays 3 min, generally is no where to be found when the going gets tough ( i realize this is also due to the fact he is on the bench when this usually happens, which makes his presencve there irrelevent! how can you enforce if your not on the ice?) and has never been a momentum changer in anyway for our team whether its a fight, taking the body Ect.
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nykingfan Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
@BrokeKingsFan,
ok, but then it goes back to the age old argument.
The use of an enforcer.
I’m not a Westy fan at all, but I do respect the role of the enforcer.
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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@nykingfan, Unless they take fighting out of the game and i do not see that happening.
ok i didnt want to see Bernier play but oh well still a good Goalie lets see what he got lets win
and no WESTY!!
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Good Lord Westgarth! if you’re gonna play at least agitate someone Avery style. DO SOMETHING other than turning pucks over.
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How in the world do you NOT start Quick after last night’s performance? Oh well, hopefully Bernier will show up with his A game and make TM look like a genious. Westgarth? Why? Richie gives us SO much more…
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KingsFanFTW Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
@DY, am with u on that
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EternalOptimist Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
@DY,
Totally agree… I’m sure he wants to get back in there as well!
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Rich, sounds like a common question on here is, “What does Terry Murray feel Westgarth brings to the table?” Any chance we can here an explanation on that. I think having Richie in there not only brings speed and energy to that 4th line, but also Richie can be inserted up and down the line-up in case of an injury to say a 2nd line winger. Westgarth can’t fill that. Also, Richardson can be out there on the PK if needed, giving TM an extra option, in case our PK is out for extended time, etc. Doesn’t seem like Westgarth can be used in such a versatile role. And he really DOESN’T fight much. Just curious about TM’s logic there. Not saying he’s wrong. I’m just a fan putting in my 2 cents.
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Rich Hammond Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Respectfully, I’ll tell you that it’s been addressed on here time and time and time again. In some games, Murray wants a heavyweight. That’s it. People can (and do) debate, ad nauseam, whether he’s correct or incorrect, but it’s been the same since 2008.
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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
@Rich Hammond, Some people can’t let it go.lol
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I am glad Bernier is starting on friday for 2 reasons #1 Quick has not played well vs Columbus so why not give JB a chance and #2 And maybe just as important, Quick gets some rest so he will be fresh for the stretch run and playoff games that we will need him. Just my opinion….
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I’m good with the Bernier decission. Westgarth … not so much. :/
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Poni scored and the sun came up this morning. Sweet.
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This is a classic case of MASSIVE over-coaching. Our Kings are fighting for a playoff spot, and instead of playing our clear starter, we throw bernier out there because we have some games coming up on the road? Uh, murray, quick didn’t play last night and he doesn’t play tomorrow!!!!! HE IS AN ATHLETE! We will get beat tonight on the weak goaltending of bernier. He has shown flashes this year, but has also been really bad, including his last game (4 goals, 22 shots). And to boot, how did quick do last game? Hmmmm? I think he did ok. Ridiculous. And then, in the same breath, say we are going to roll our 3rd stringer out there, just to keep our other 2 fresh???? WTH?
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