After the game, the Kings were hot about a non-call on Vancouver’s game-winning goal, with 8:24 remaining in the third period. Alex Burrows made contact with Kings goalie Jonathan Quick, but play continued and Daniel Sedin scored moments later. Two questions into his postgame news conference, Terry Murray was asked about the play…
Murray, visibly agitated, said “It’s a God-damn shame that that goal is allowed. The guy is in the crease. Quick can’t move his stick and Doughty is pushed over the top of our goaltender. It’s a God-damn shame that that goal is allowed. It should not be allowed. That’s a penalty.”
With that, Murray turned and walked away, fielding no more questions. Quick was no less pleased with the non-call.
“Burrows runs into me, as his original shot is taken, and it’s not called,” Quick said. “Maybe if I dive like they do, you get that call, but otherwise I guess you don’t. … I just know that, on the original shot, I’m not allowed to make the save I want to make, because Burrows bumps me. You’ve got to allow the goaltender to attempt to make the save he’s trying to make. Other than that, at the end of the day we didn’t play good enough. We’ve got to play better.”
“Maybe if I dive like they do, you get that call”
get ‘em quicker!
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Eric Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
@raitis,
That’s what I’ve been saying all along… Bunch of diving bandits.
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Getting Penner at the trade deadline was the great move by the organization. But getting a new power play coach would be even better move. Make it happen before it’s too late!
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simonsez Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
@goldielocks,
Agreed – and long overdue!
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JB Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
@goldielocks, That’s what I’ve been saying for the longest time..our PP stink on ice bcoz the person in charge of it sux..
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Hat trick Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
@goldielocks, I love that comment by Jim Fox during the game about Vancouver’s PP. He said that they don’t have a set play that they basically improvise. No wonder why their PP is one of the best in the league. How in the world do you scout a PP when they just go out there and wing it just about every time? You can’t!
The Kings on the other hand have the same damn PP look every single PP and the teams by now know how to defend against it. The PP coach is insane. expecting different results but doing the same damn thing over and over again.
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jason Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 12:06 am
@goldielocks, the powerplay was great last season with kompon… the kings just arent finishing. shooting wide and kopi is almost unheard of lately
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GG Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 12:37 am
@jason, they need to shoot the puck
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good interview TM, now that’s showing emotion! Of course the fine will be a good one too.
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NoDoughty Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
@HappyLappy, That’s what I was thinking as soon as I read that
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Dave's a Killer Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
@HappyLappy, AFT, TM I hope there is a fine and then the KIngs can run a few off like the last time. Didn’t get to see the game so I can’t comment on the “non-call” but it sounds like the same disrespect the Kings seem to get. But, once again, one power play goal could have changed everything.
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spidey35 Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 6:20 am
@HappyLappy
I’m just glad DL did’nt say anything. Can’t imagine what that fine would have been like.
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Screw it, put Westgarth in next game and let him beat up on them. I wouldn’t even care if he got suspended, it’s not like we use him anyway. Let him give the Sedin’s a reason to lay on the ice for 5 minutes.
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Eric Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
@bluecoconuts,
AGREED
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sjp Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
@bluecoconuts,
Sounds good to me. There certainly seems to be different rules for several players, including the twins.
Unfortunately, the Kings pp just plain sucked.
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Hat trick Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@sjp, you’re just realizing the PP sucks just now?
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KindSir Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
@bluecoconuts,
Also just out of curiosity can someone tell me why the hell there are so many damn Canuck fans going to these games? Are they actually traveling from Canada to come watch them play the Kings in LA, or is there a huge secret Canadian population living in LA that we did not know about? I seriously want to know!
I love how they showed Henrik? up on the jumbotron making a pouty face like
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SHUCHUK Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
@KindSir, if there is there a huge secret Canadian Canuck fan population living in LA I’d be OK with letting Westgarth punch each of them in the face :O
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Bodoe Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
@KindSir, Most people are chumps and follow winning teams. I mean, we DO live next door to a team that has a bunch of front runner fans.
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the_guv Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
@KindSir, Bandwagon goons! I love L.A. (yes just like the song), but it is very “trendy” city. Everyone just wants to be into the best. Pretty far from a “fan” of any sorts, we should think of a new name for those people.
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spidey35 Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 6:22 am
@KindSir,
I can’t remember a time that I have been more iritated with an oposing teams fans than I was today. The total lack of class that the Canucks fans showed was disgraceful. The only thing that I was hoping for was us winning the game.
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locdog1 Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
@KindSir, i talked to a bunch of the Canuck fans to find out if they were from here or not… i couldnt find one who lives here or was born here… the all said the same thing that ticket prices in Vancouver are way too expensive and the games are always sold out and its too hard to get tickets… a ticket in the 300 section is like $85.. a ticket in the 100 section is like $350..
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KindSir Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
@locdog1,
Woooow so you’re saying they actually came all the way from Canada for the game?? Talk about dedicated! Thanks for solving the mystery bud
shmo Reply:
March 7th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
@locdog1,
Yes, the Canuck fans are dedicated. And the ones that are making it down south for a Kings, Ducks weekend are not band wagon fans thats for sure. We even like some of your players, and appreciate a good game and team.
With our ticket prices, it may make it an expensive trip, but try and make it our way for a game 1 day, you’ll be glad you did.
Some of the comments here are not to kind with their words regarding the canuck fans. There are irritating fans everywhere, as I’m sure you well know. A rivalry is a good thing for both teams. You got to take it with a grain of salt. Any ways,, the king’s organization and the lA area in general is more than happy to welcome all us fans, and our money, so try to enjoy it. Look forward to many more.
TM has every right to be pissed off……….its a shame the game got decided by a non-call from the refs………….
but at the same time maybe TM should take a hard look at this team and maybe maybe change the PP oh yea and how about tell them to shooot more instead of holding on to the puck and passing the puck aroudn the boards which leads to nothing…….
go kings go
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the_guv Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
@gmo, I think the game was decided by our PP or (lack there of). I hear what you’re saying though, it was a bogus non-call. I don’t know why, but I love a pissed off TM!!!
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I almost feel like the loss was worth it to get the emotion out of Murray. Damn. We lost and I’m fired up!!!
If that lights a fire under them, I’m all for it.
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JacquesQ Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
@DFW King, I agree…happy to finally see some emotion from TM. This may have been a “good loss” in that respect. We are going to need fire down the stretch
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mcg Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 9:16 am
@DFW King,
TM is fired up and I’m loving it. It was a non-call because its a Canadian team against LA. Kings have to play on through more adversity than other teams. Not only do they have to play excellent against other top tier teams, but they also have to play against biassed refs. BS!!!
Keep up the fire TM!
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canucksfanfromvan Reply:
March 7th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
@mcg, And normally I hear us Canucks fans saying the exact same things. Now, if you read what TM says in the interview/watch the video, you will see that burrows never does go into the crease, quick’s moving across so his head and burrows leg brush outside of the crease. quick can’t push off because doughty falls on his goaltender. not enough of a push by daniel to knock him over, that’s for sure.
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I LOVE Quick’s response. He vents about the non-call but then says that they have to play better. Now that to me is a balanced response …. something that at times is lacking here on the blog. It’s not Just the refs… it’s everything and JQ got it exactly right!!
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***REPOST FROM LAST THREAD***
Bottom line for me…
I don’t like losing but it is part of the game. We’re going to lose sometimes. I can deal with a legitimate loss.
I only REALLY get upset when a referee determines the outcome of a game. The ref is RIGHT THERE when Sedin pushes Doughty into Quick. IIRC, as Jim Fox said, the rulebook is pretty clear on that as being a penalty. There is NO EXCUSE for him not making that call. PERIOD! It cost us a VERY IMPORTANT 2 points. This is just as bad as the debacle in Moontreal on January 31st, 2009 when Stephane Auger doesn’t call the hook on the Montreal player as Doughty is spun to the ice and scores with about 2 minutes left in the game. No different here.
On top of that, the refs were whistle happy all game. What were there, like 13 power plays between the teams? C’mon….
Now that all being said, we had some piss poor puck management through the neutral today. First pass out of your zone is EVERYTHING on the rush. Could hardly connect a pass all game. We blew ANOTHER 5 on 3. On that second Vancouver “goal”, we were running around like lost school children. Doughty tried what only Brown can do effectively with the embellishment. Maybe he figured these green refs owed him one for the call they missed that led to the goal. Can’t blame him for trying.
I wouldn;t complain about Doughty’s whining though. Quick was just as pissed. Terry Murray was livid for the rest of the game, even delaying putting guys out on the ice at one point. His comments should be gold, at least I hope they are.
The referees have to tighten things up by playoff time or the playoffs are gonna suck. Swallow the whistles a little. A good ref is usually invisible.
Pitiful. I can handle a legit loss. This was BUNK! Ruined the game, and it was a great game to that point. Vancouver is going to be tough to beat this year.
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Cynic Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
@Cynic, I should have read the article and not just the headline before I posted. Terry’s comments were PLATINUM! Quicker too! Unreal. Glad to see the emotion.
Now in the spirit of Mel Gibson…..GIMME BACK MY TWO POINTS!
Or from Better off Dead….I WANT MY TWO POINTS!
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
@Cynic, Better off dead,what a great movie,good call.
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wavesinair Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
@Cynic,
QUICK
Just hang in there baby, you’re
doing’ great, Sedin’s proud of you
and so am I. It’s almost over,
(to the Ref)
Now I want you to go in that bag
and find my wallet.
REF
Which one is it?
QUCK
It’s the one that says “2 POINTS” on it.
The Ref looks in the bag and — sure enough — there’s a
wallet with “2 Points” embroidered on it.
QUICK
Now gimmie back my 2 points!
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Kings Fan In Temecula Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
@wavesinair, hahaha nice
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Cynic Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
@wavesinair, ROTFL! Very Nice P.
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the_guv Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
@wavesinair, LOVE IT!!!
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God Damn! I’ve never seen TM complain like that. I like it.
Now change the power play God Damnit!
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jayhay Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@Dominick, (i’ll just on board w/ you) great god damn comments from JQ criticizing refs. you never see that from him, god damnit!!!!
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SHUCHUK Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
@Dominick, run traffic towards the net. crash the net. hard. score UGLY goals. win games.
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GREAT POST
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Bad call that ended up being the GWG, put the PP is brutal and has been all year. Doing to the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
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Marc Nathan Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
@hipcheck, +1
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Dominick Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
@hipcheck, Some say “But it’s the same power play as last year” and “It worked out well in the playoffs” I say “That’s the problem, It is the same”.
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NoDoughty Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
@hipcheck, been saying that ALL season!!!
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Eberlin Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
@NoDoughty, Been saying it since the off-season when Kompon and friends got their contract extensions. I got pwn3d by fellow Kings fans who didn’t want to hear it since we were 7th in the league in PP.
The “allowed goal” was a tough call and definitely the wrong call, but it’s not like we didn’t have any chances to change the outcome of the game. Horrible calls feel a lot worse when we’re having a hard time lighting the lamp.
Let’s get that next game, boys.
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Terry Murray said it right. Hopefully he will not get a fine. However, I am sick and tired of the inconsistencies in these refs. I have seen simular plays reviewed after the defending team complained but we didnt get that. Refs need to have more consistencies in calls, and thats the bottom line. I was thinking about this since than, and I think that we have video replay… we should use it more often. I also am thinking that since NFL and NHL are the two major sports that have video replay, the coach should in the NHL, be atleast able to have one thing checked by video replay. Like a coachs challenge. I dont care if its a penalty, goal, nik nak patty wack… let the coach decide which major thing that can be checked. Refs screwed us from an OT or a SO, but at the same darn time, our PP needs to pick up. We had how many chances and couldnt convert. Rediculous. But still, this game at the end of the day, still was decided by the referees.
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Newf Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
@#1faninvegas, that’s how the league works though, if you speak out about anything that Bettman has a say in, you get fined for not complying with it. so much for free speech. the officiating has consistently gone downhill every year i think, and it’s all because of Bettman i think. i’m noticing that as all the veteran ref’s retire, it just gets worse and worse
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The Nucks fans were a bunch of homers too! Hope they enjoy winning the conference points and then choking in the playoffs!
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What is the logic for this team to ever pull a goalie? It’s pretty obvious the Kings couldn’t score with a man advantage if their lives depended on it. The power play is non-existent and if they don’t send out a search party for a descent power play, they will not make the playoffs. Priority number one is “find out where the Kings left their power play”! Priority two, wake Koptiar up and lite a fire under him.
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Cynic Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
@Go Kings Go, RE:Kopitar
I agree. Kopi was NOT the same payer he was against Phoenix for Penner’s debut. He was back to his lumbering self. My only knock on Kopi is that he STILL hasn’t learned to create his own space. Guys like Thornton, Nash, Sedin, Perry, Getzlaf, Kovi, they all do it regularly. Kopi ALWAYS takes it down the board, around the net, up the other half-boards and passes it off. ALWAYS! The defender just simply has to ride him around and he’s neutralized.
Anze Kopitar MUST take his game to the next level. Grab some pucks, find a phone booth and learn to dangle in it. Maybe Datsuyk is holding a summer camp he can attend to learn how to create space. Zetterberg could teach him also. SOMETHING!
We will never become an offensive powerhouse UNTIL Kopi does this. He’s too predictable. for 6.8mil a year, he needs to up his skill level.
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Newf Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
@Cynic, please don’t put Sedin in there. he doesn’t make his own space, the refs make it for him by calling anyone who touches either one of those “olsen” twins, as someone said earlier, i love that comparison.
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Cynic Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
@Newf, While I HATE the Canucks right now, Stats don’t typically lie. Remember what Mitchell said pre-game? They draw you in close so they can (basically) go around you. Both Sedins DO create their own space because as they move up ice, the juke you out of your hip pads. Doughty got Juked in the 2nd when one of the Sedins was coming down the boards and suddenly moved to the middle. DD fell down and that Sedin had a quality chance. The skill level they both have is pretty amazing and it creates space because D-men MUST respect their skill.
Kopi is simply too predictable. Heck, BROWN is less predictable than Kopi. That’s a problem.
Cynic Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
@Newf, Have to correct myself (Should have watched the video first instead of trying to remember). Doughty took the high sticking call in the 1st against Sedin after getting juked. DD didn’t fall down, just caught the guy in the grill because he got played.
KindSir Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
@Cynic,
Sad but true. Every time Kopi gets the puck on a rush I know EXACTLY where he is going with it. Also I definitely do not like the Canucks, but you’ve gotta give the Sedins their respect. The guys are some amazing players, and can definitely create their own space.
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tornado12 Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 9:45 am
@Cynic, I agree about kopi, but one question we should ask ourselves is how much does this system discourage offensive creativity?
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Yes….the non-call was a really blatantly poor one….but the better team won today. Just look at the shots….& our POWER PLAY is WAY worse than the performance of the refs today.
I’m glad TM vented & I like Quick’s response, but Doughty’s whining act is showing his true age & getting old in my eyes. It also will not do anything for his future w/ the refs in the NHL….
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
@dahack11, I think Quick believes if he had the right chance, he could have pulled this game out. This is despite the offense not being good enough, and it’s understandable.
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Worst reffed game iv ever seen!.. I shoulda known when I arrived at staples and saw all the Canucks fans! That the refs were going to think it was a game in Vancouver!.. So Many ticky tack calls were going against the kings!.. And van gets away with pouting and crying there way to victory!.. That said what’s with all the non calls on the Canucks that should have been called!?.. I vote neither of those refs get playoff games! Enough said!.. Oh and thanks refs for ruining my bday!
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Scarletcat Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
@Jpizzle313,
Sadly, it seems every time VAN is in LA, there’s as much if not more blue and green in the stands than purple and black.
THAT is something Kings fans certainly can control!
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Kings fan of 20 years and I have been playing a long time. Doughty dove n front of the net and it cost us. He should be mad an nobody but himself and even more so for not letting it go and affecting him for the rest of the game.
Quick had a right to complain but he didn’t see what happened. You can’t knock a 200+ defenseman who lives on skates down with a jab to the lower back with no kinetic energy behind it.
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4/10/82 Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
@Dan,
watch the video.
http://kings.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=731&id=101399
kinetic energy?
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4/10/82 Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
@Dan,
and to think that an NHL defenseman would dive in front of his own net to draw a penalty while the other team is buzzing in his zone is beyond nonsense.
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
@Dan,
You need to watch the video brother.
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mania16 Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 12:06 am
@Dan, were you watching the same game that we all watched Dan? DD was indeed knocked into Qucik with a cross-check to the samll of the back. Regardless of the fact that it was a small push or a cross check from behind the play should have been whistled dead and Sedin should have been sent to the box for cross-checking or interference. You make the call. You have been a Kings fan for twenty years and I have been one for forty-two. That was the worst call or non-call that I have seen and it was not even close. YOu need to wathc the video again. TO day that Drew threw himself in front of the net is a ridiculous as the Canucks thinking that they would have won the game in regulation if a penalty had been called on the play.
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Dan Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 12:45 am
Give me a break guys. Even Jim says it wasn’t much. There is a lot more to be mad at than that goal. How about the blown PP chances?
If any of you have played hockey at a competitive level, you should know it takes a lot more than what Sedin did to get knocked over.There is always a shove match in front of the net and if it wasn’t a goal, I doubt even Doughty would have expected a penalty.
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 11:47 am
@Dan,
I have played the game for most of my life at a competitive level and have worked hockey camps, so I know what I witnessed. It depends on the position of DD’s skates. He was in motion and he’s skates were straight so it wouldn’t take much to send his inertia into Quick. Dude, it’s a penalty at any level.
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LicoriceBiscuit Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 11:48 am
@Dan,
I have played the game for most of my life at a competitive level and have worked hockey camps, so I know what I witnessed. It depends on the position of DD’s skates. He was in motion and his skates were straight so it wouldn’t take much to send his inertia into Quick. Dude, it’s a penalty at any level.
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Sniff … sniff …sniff… do I smell conspiracy? Ahh …NHL wants Yotes to go into the playoffs because of their current owner situation. Likely or unlikely?
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shmo Reply:
March 7th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
@goldielocks,
The Yotes?,that was last year. The league is not at fault when your team loses. Stop making the excuses. The season isn’t over yet. So,,,, unlikely?? there’s not even a chance of a conspiracy here. Come on!
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Terrible call that decided the game. But you can’t expect to win when you can only score 1 goal and go zero for infinity on your pathetic power play.
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Perfect response by Quicki! I get the frustration and anger, but his last two sentences were very important! Quick was our best player 2nite. Brush off the loss, and go get ‘em on Monday Quicki!
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You are, all of you, CORRECT. Way to go Quick. TM thank you for finally showing some emotion. The powerplay is pathetic. Get a new PP coach…HURRY!!!!!!!!!!
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I love the reaction from Murray the intensity of the game carried over to the head coach who is usually very stoic. This game and the reaction of murray should have this team ready to smash the stars on Monday.
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I love the emotion TM!!!!
That is what I’ve been looking for from you for two years buddy. You have been looking GREAT as a head coach who really cares about this club the last couple of months and I LIKE IT.
WE NEED this..
And there were many calls that were bs but the bottom line is, we need that PP to work so we don’t leave these games up to the refs. Period.
out..
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Can we get Dean’s opinion as well?
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someone please tell me they have the pic of sedin with his pouty lip out that they showed at staples center….
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Kings defense played well enough to win. I do think Jack Johnson needs to play with a heavier stick. He was routinely knocked off the puck by Vancouver forwards. The game was officiated like it was the second week of the season. Line switching needs to stabilize.And now to the meat of the matter. Power Play.The term is an Oxymoron when applied to the Kings. From game 14 on PP has been awful. I posted a somber response a few months back. Coach Kompon has to get some help or be let go. I respect his work ethic but this group of athletes needs creativity,movement.Watch Vancouver and how they isolate a player and attack the triangle or box. Force the defenders to come to you and the back door is there. ahh but I digress.Back in that old post I mentioned the interview with Dionne and he saying Kopitar needs to be in areas where he can score. Take him off the half-wall and use him to score.Like I said before if I were “King” I would bring Wayne Gretzky in to coach the PP…if I were King.Peace..
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That’s all we needed, TM to have an excuse for being a crappy coach.
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i wish jim and bob had also focused on the initial bump of quick by burroughs rather than only on the sedin part of the play. thats what quick was really pissed about. it threw him off and never did get a chance to recover.
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i wish jim and bob had also focused on the initial bump of quick by burroughs rather than only on the sedin part of the play. thats what quick was really pissed about. it threw him off and never did get a chance to recover.
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